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Gausman’s no-trade list, Yanks want Mason Miller, Trevor May's trade predictions, Ohtani injury update · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to today's episode of Foul Territory. I am
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  Speaker 1: your only host, just kidding. AJ will be joining us
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  Speaker 1: at any moment. We have a great show for you
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  Speaker 1: coming up, and I am back and excited to be here.
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  Speaker 1: We have Patrick Mooney from The Athletic joining us. We
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  Speaker 1: have Lance Brasdowski, and we have everyone's favorite Jonathan Papa
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  Speaker 1: bunn All joining the show today. It's gonna be a
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: good one. We're very excited. And there he is. Hello.
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  Speaker 2: Hello. Sorry sorry sorry players only picture catcher.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, I was doing an interview with the people who
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  Speaker 3: set me up with the Pope, so sorry. I couldn't
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  Speaker 3: exactly When the owner of the Bears and the guy
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  Speaker 3: who sets you up to meet the Pope ask you
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  Speaker 3: to do an interview, it's hard to say no, Trevor.
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  Speaker 3: And also at the end, I was like, I gotta go,
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  Speaker 3: and they're like, and the owner of the Bear says, hey,
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  Speaker 3: we have to say a prayer before we go.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to cut him off. I'm sorry. I
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  Speaker 2: just couldn't happen. Well is going to happen.
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  Speaker 3: I apologize to the Foul Territory family. I love you guys.
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  Speaker 3: But when the owner of the bear says, hey, we
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  Speaker 3: need to pray, and I'm gonna I'm gonna let them
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  Speaker 3: do it.
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  Speaker 1: I would have done the same thing. So you're forgiving.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Plus I have the papal blessing, so I have now
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  Speaker 3: I'm forgiven from the Pope and from future ever.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Where have you been, by the way, we haven't. We
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  Speaker 3: haven't had you on in a while, So explain where
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  Speaker 3: did you go?
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  Speaker 2: M I A for a while.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I've gone, am I a a little bit? Uh
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  Speaker 1: I now no longer have an infant. I have a toddler.
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  Speaker 1: So that's the whole thing. And uh yeah, just just
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  Speaker 1: a whole lot going on over here at may Day Media.
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  Speaker 1: We're switching, we're switching facilities. I'm trying to build a
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  Speaker 1: pitching lab and get a contractor all lined up. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's been. It's been NonStop every day, all day. My
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  Speaker 1: day starts at five am right now. But I'm having fun.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure it'll be fun at some point. But if
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  Speaker 1: I say it enough, maybe it'll be true.
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  Speaker 2: Toddlers are fun. Toddlers are fun. You know, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: Stage hard babies.
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  Speaker 3: You have a baby, right and they're crying, and they're
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  Speaker 3: pooping in their diaper, and they're doing all the little
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  Speaker 3: things and you say, man, I can't wait till the
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  Speaker 3: baby talks. And then the baby starts talking, and then
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  Speaker 3: for the next sixteen years you're like, I wish the
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  Speaker 3: baby would shut up.
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  Speaker 2: Because as they get through the.
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  Speaker 3: Teenage years, right, and you're like, oh, I wish they
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  Speaker 3: would walk, And then you say, man, I wish they
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  Speaker 3: would stay in the crib because now I know where
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  Speaker 3: they are. So as they get older, and then they
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  Speaker 3: go through those weird ages, you know, eleven, about fourteen
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  Speaker 3: or fifteen, because they're oh dad, mom, dad, they're not
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  Speaker 3: really that cool.
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  Speaker 2: What are we doing? Right?
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  Speaker 3: And then they hit the age where my kids are
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  Speaker 3: twenty and nineteen, and then they're fun because they're adults.
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  Speaker 3: So it's about junior senior year where they're like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: mom and dad aren't that bad anymore.
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  Speaker 2: They're kind of cool.
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  Speaker 3: And then when they get to college, you're like, oh, mom, dad,
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  Speaker 3: we want you to come so you can buy us
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  Speaker 3: food and you can do this and we can hang out.
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  Speaker 3: And then it's like, all right, this is fun again.
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  Speaker 3: So you go through stages. Trevor we'll see.
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  Speaker 2: There's good days and bad days.
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm having a blast. He he can walk around,
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  Speaker 1: he thinks I'm cool. Still, he gets excited when I
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  Speaker 1: walk in the rooms. He gets sad. I want to
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  Speaker 1: leave him. So you know, I hear that's uh, that's
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  Speaker 1: the the part that everyone misses when they're when they're
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  Speaker 1: big and uh and fortunate. We got number We also
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  Speaker 1: got number two on the way on in November, and
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  Speaker 1: another little boy, so that family has we got even
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  Speaker 1: boys and our congratulation generation. So we're gonna have We're
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  Speaker 1: having fun. I'm having fun. I'm excited about I'm a
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  Speaker 1: lot happening. It's it's all good stuff itself awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Well, on that note, since you're having another boy, let's
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  Speaker 3: charge them out, all right, here we go Yankees Mason Miller.
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  Speaker 3: Would this be a fit, Trevor. I think it'd be
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  Speaker 3: a great fit. I mean, they love Bednard at the
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  Speaker 3: back end. Their bullpen's actually been really good with Cruise
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  Speaker 3: and uh some of the other pieces Dave assembled. But
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you throw Mason Miller in any bullpen, it's
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  Speaker 3: gonna get better. Can the Yankees do this? I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. If they have the prospect cawbal or
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  Speaker 3: do it. But if they're the leading suitor for Mason Miller,
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  Speaker 3: you're the Padres, and you can get some studs or
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  Speaker 3: some younger players to come in and replace what you've
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  Speaker 3: lost over the last couple of years, I say go
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  Speaker 3: for it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they're also in a unique situation where they
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  Speaker 1: have guys who can step right into that role too.
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  Speaker 1: That is the padres, right. You know, you can have
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  Speaker 1: a Strata or Adam or or Morne Jane, any of
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  Speaker 1: them can close games. And so it's it's like they
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  Speaker 1: have such a good bullpen already that Yeah, losing Mason
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  Speaker 1: Miller makes any bullpen a lot worse. But if you can,
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  Speaker 1: if you can pull it off and then set yourself
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  Speaker 1: up in the future, you know, because we know they
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  Speaker 1: haven't been scoring runs, we know they are looking to
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  Speaker 1: recharge in that in that way that they got an
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  Speaker 1: aging core. All those things can be addressed with with
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  Speaker 1: a with a reliever because we all know how much
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  Speaker 1: even no matter how good they are, if it's Mace
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  Speaker 1: Miller or Marin Rivera, like the the impact a closer
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  Speaker 1: has on the number of games in a season just
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  Speaker 1: isn't enough to to to like hold on to the
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  Speaker 1: you know with with white knuckles. So you gotta you
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  Speaker 1: gotta get what you can get, especially when they're hot.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, that guy, that guy is gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: hot commodity if he's available. And you know, Bednar has
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  Speaker 1: been great, They've been good in the back end. But
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  Speaker 1: if you add Mason Miller, you can, you can, Then
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  Speaker 1: you get more flexibility and the game's just over. After
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  Speaker 1: one of the if cooking, if all pitching at the
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  Speaker 1: same time, one of the better starting rotations out there
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  Speaker 1: is going, then that's a scary, scary team to match
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  Speaker 1: up against in games that matter.
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  Speaker 3: True, But here's here's my thing. You go they got
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  Speaker 3: Freed back yesterday, he threw five scoreless. You have Coal
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  Speaker 3: back right, you have Schlitler. That's a pretty good top
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  Speaker 3: three in a rotation. Then if you could go Bednar Hill,
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  Speaker 3: Tim Hill has been good for him from the side
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  Speaker 3: arm lefty right. The other lefty they brought in yesterday, Gosh,
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  Speaker 3: I forgot his name and he was dirty. He punched
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  Speaker 3: out the side man. I forgot what his name was.
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  Speaker 3: And then you know, you have Cruiz Bednar Miller. Does
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  Speaker 3: that make the Yankees the favorites in the Americanly, if
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  Speaker 3: Aaron Judge comes about.
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  Speaker 1: That's a that's the that's it right there, that's it.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about my trade. Uh the trades
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  Speaker 1: I'm pointing and I got them. Maybe going for another
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  Speaker 1: position player to add some thump, but we'll talk about
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  Speaker 1: that at that time. But yeah, Aaron Judge is the keystone.
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  Speaker 1: He's been the keystone. He's gonna continue to be the
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  Speaker 1: keystone for this offense, uh, into the into the undetermined
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  Speaker 1: amount of future, Like we you need him back or
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  Speaker 1: you're just not going to be cooking on all cylinders.
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  Speaker 1: So they have to get back. But if they do,
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  Speaker 1: he's probably just gonna be the same Aaron Judge we
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  Speaker 1: always see. And yeah, I would put them as a
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  Speaker 1: as a terrifying team to match up with in the
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  Speaker 1: postseason because they have their they have their winning ways.
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  Speaker 1: It's just not a not a very fun place to
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  Speaker 1: go play in Yankee Stadium. If you can have a
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  Speaker 1: you can if you can have one of the best bullpens,
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  Speaker 1: starting rotations and ability to score runs with the middle
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  Speaker 1: of their lineup, there's not much else you can do
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  Speaker 1: at that point, Like you just got to go EXQ
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  Speaker 1: at that point.
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  Speaker 2: One guy we can't we haven't heard about.
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  Speaker 3: He's supposed to be getting close to coming back, but
• 8:12
  Speaker 3: it's always he's on rehab and then he gets hurt.
• 8:15
  Speaker 3: Is John Carlos Stanton. You Stanton judge in the middle
• 8:18
  Speaker 3: of this lineup with Ben Rice. Cody Bellinger was an
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  Speaker 3: All Star this year. If they can figure out the
• 8:22
  Speaker 3: catching situation and get Austin Wells going, Jason Dimingez has
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  Speaker 3: looked better recently. Spencer Jones is there and I don't
• 8:30
  Speaker 3: know what they're going to do with him again. The
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  Speaker 3: Yankees are nasty and with Domingos and Spencer Jones pushing
• 8:36
  Speaker 3: for full time outfield play, is this Could this be
• 8:38
  Speaker 3: the last time we see John Carlos Stanton is a Yankee.
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: I think I feel like we've been maybe floating this question.
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: It's been out there for a little bit just because
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: of his injury. I mean, he's got quite the extensive
• 8:52
  Speaker 1: injury repertoire. I think that we did a we did
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: a review I think last season, and I think he'd
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: almost hurt every single body part at some point for
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: the il since he's been a Yankee. But the sad
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: part about it is he's so productive when he's healthy.
• 9:07
  Speaker 1: Uh he's so dangerous when he's healthy, and he's been,
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  Speaker 1: especially in the postseason, one of their one of their
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  Speaker 1: best players. Uh So, but if you're not on the field,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. And going to youth is something that
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: every team's always think about. Anyways, Yeah, this could be
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  Speaker 1: the last raw. You know, hopefully he can get back
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: and stay stay back for a while, but we'll have
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: to wait and see. There's just been a lot of
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: like weird. I mean, the guy's almost swinging his arms
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: off like at that point. It's kind of it reminds
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: me of like the Miguel Cabrera changes in his knee announcement.
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: We're like, what does that mean? Like, we don't, we
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: don't know. It just means his knee doesn't work for
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: as well. We're starting to get into that case, I
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: think with some of with some of the Stanton stuff
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  Speaker 1: where it's just not going to go away. It's not
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: gonna heal. He's just got to deal with it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. But here's my next question.
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  Speaker 3: I always ask people this, If he hits five hundred
• 9:57
  Speaker 3: home runs, is he a Hall of Famer? Is that
• 9:59
  Speaker 3: an auto Hall of Fame in today's game? Because he's
• 10:01
  Speaker 3: basically a one trick pony. I know he has the MVP,
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: but he's really been a one trick pony. It's been
• 10:06
  Speaker 3: he hits a lot of home runs when he's healthy.
• 10:08
  Speaker 3: So if he gets to five hundred home runs, is
• 10:10
  Speaker 3: John Carloston an auto first ballot Hall of Famer?
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  Speaker 1: I think that. I think that it's pretty likely that
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  Speaker 1: he is in. I don't know if it's a first ballot,
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: but he might have to wait. I think we're in
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: this weird transition period right now. We're gonna have like
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: five or ten years of voting. And I would love
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: your take on this as well, where voting where we're
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: kind of transitioning, like what our standards are for length
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: of career and like counting stats. Because the guys, the
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: early two thousands guys, they're gone. They're all either in
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: or lost. They're not in anymore. And so no one's
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: going to play for twenty years anymore, So five hundred
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  Speaker 1: home runs is going to be I think as the
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: years go on and as we get closer to him
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  Speaker 1: being eligible five hundred years ago, five hundred home runs
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  Speaker 1: is going to look more and more and more attractive
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  Speaker 1: for a Hall of Famer, and so that might be
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  Speaker 1: what keeps him out. We had this conversation about Swarbur two.
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: If he hits the same amount he did last year
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  Speaker 1: for the entire entirety of this contract, which he's on
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  Speaker 1: pace to do, he's going to be tenth all time
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  Speaker 1: and home runs. Does that put him in as a
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Famer? Absolutely? But then you think about your
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: Kyles Swarber Homer Hall of Famer. That's These are the
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  Speaker 1: standards we're talking about these days. But I think I
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  Speaker 1: think five hundred is it's just a market that's just
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  Speaker 1: not going to be less and less and less guys
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  Speaker 1: are going to get there, And I think that he
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  Speaker 1: might be in where that transition is as has moved
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  Speaker 1: on a little bit to where I think we'd be
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  Speaker 1: surprised on how easy it would be for people to
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  Speaker 1: vote him in. So I would say, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair I understand that. I mean, I go,
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: I want to get your opinion on this one.
• 11:41
  Speaker 3: Also the Jose Cabaerra whole thing with the umpires and
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: him looking up right at eight seconds, which is the
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: rule by the way, I mean, I don't understand why
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  Speaker 3: people are getting so mad at him.
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  Speaker 2: He can look down as long as he's he sees
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  Speaker 2: that eight he can look up.
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  Speaker 3: I don't understand why now umpire has he said dumpires
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  Speaker 3: are picking on him right, and Aaron Boone got ejected
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  Speaker 3: or I don't know if you adjective, but he got
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: in trouble yesterday for saying, you know, you're picking on
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  Speaker 3: our guy as a picture. I know from a hitter standpoint,
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  Speaker 3: like I'm going to try every rule I can to get.
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  Speaker 2: Your momentum and your rhythm broken.
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  Speaker 3: And if this is his routine and this is what
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  Speaker 3: he does and it's in the rule book, I don't
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  Speaker 3: understand what the big deal is. So I think it's
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  Speaker 3: kind of funny that he now says he's being picked
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  Speaker 3: on because I always felt like I was being picked
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  Speaker 3: on by all these pictures throwing at me. It wasn't
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  Speaker 3: my fault, it was their fault that they threw at me.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I never did anything wrong, So what's your
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: what's your understanding or were feelings as a picture and
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  Speaker 3: someone that would have to be standing out there and
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  Speaker 3: waiting for the guy to I'm ready now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think kaby Er since he was a
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: rookie man. You know, what's the common is the pot
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  Speaker 1: stir He stirs the pot. It's like what he does.
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  Speaker 1: You can imagine what he's like in a clubhouse sometimes too.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure he's just like how they're poking people Like
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: it's just there's guys are around and and he's like,
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: technically there's a lot like technically the rules eight and
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing you can say at that point as a picture.
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  Speaker 1: But I know Adrian Johnson was behind the plate, you
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  Speaker 1: know these are this is like he's got a little
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  Speaker 1: he's starting to get a reputation for for stirring the
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  Speaker 1: pot a little bit out on the field, getting getting
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: his team fired up, but maybe getting in the other
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  Speaker 1: getting annoyed, being annoying for the other team, and being
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  Speaker 1: annoying to umpires at times as well, just trying to
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  Speaker 1: like make their job a little harder to do. And
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  Speaker 1: I think that's what we're looking at So was he
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  Speaker 1: being picked on? Probably yeah, was he technically right within
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  Speaker 1: the rules, yes, but also he shouldn't act like he's
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  Speaker 1: surprised that that that pitchers get annoyed with him sometimes
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  Speaker 1: and maybe Umpire's like, come on, man like. So it's
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: one of those things like don't stop doing it, keep
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: doing what you're doing. But also you also know what
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: you're doing. So uh, I think that how this is
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  Speaker 1: being handled though everyone's handling exactly the way he should.
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: Aaron Boone should defend his guy. He is right, he
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: is picking on him. But Cabby or does put himself
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: in those positions quite often, and he's and he's done
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: it on every team he's been on, not just the Yankees.
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  Speaker 1: But that's part of the way he plays game. It's
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: part of what makes him a good player, and it's
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: part of getting him getting advantages in certain situations, frustrating
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  Speaker 1: pictures and and getting himself just a little bit of
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: an edge so that he can win in a battle.
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  Speaker 1: Like that's the point of the game. You can we
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  Speaker 1: can worry about like all this pots during whether or
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: not we like it off the field, but on the field,
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  Speaker 1: if it's within the bounds of the of the rules
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  Speaker 1: and nothing no advantage by the rules is happening. Then
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  Speaker 1: it's just it's got to keep going. Like you just
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  Speaker 1: got to keep doing what you got to do to
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  Speaker 1: win the game.
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, the kids call it gas lighting, by the way, Trevor,
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: It's called me being a gas lighter. Yes, my kids
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: tell me that I was a great gas lighter, or
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: I still am sometimes.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: But it's fun.
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: It's fun to gaslight the picture into getting angry at
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: you because you know what, then he might throw them
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: off a little bit. And like you said, cab iro
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: Is is really good at it. He's been really good
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: at He's got the two eyeblacks with the one. I mean,
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: he's he's been a pest. And you know what we
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: used to tell people, Paulkinerkle used to tell guys this
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: all the time.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: If you're a fleet, be a flee.
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: It'd be really good at being a fleet, which means
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: you get on base, you annoy the heck out of
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: the other team, you steal bases, you do whatever you
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: have to do to annoy the other pitcher. And Cabrierra
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: right now is number one right now in baseball and
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: annoying the heck out of the pitchers and helping his
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: team try to win. So enough Yankees talk, though, I'm
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: sick of talking about the Yankees, aren't you all right?
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: Well?
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: Sad news if you're in Kansas City. Not like they
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: have any hope anyways. But Bobby Wood Junior is on
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: the IL for the first time in his career, placed
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: on the IL lower back tightness after being pulled from
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: games on back to back days. Kansas City called up
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: Andrew Vela Velasquez and it's turning shorts up into a
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: committee over the length of this ile stint. Sucks for
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: Bobby Wood Junior, sucks for Royals fans if you want
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: to go see one of the best players in the game.
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: But honestly, the Royal stint this year and they were
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: supposed to be in this race in the Al Central.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: Is this a big blow? More a bigger blow for
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: baseball in general or for the Royals?
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Trevor Yeah, I think I think the Royals are are
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: there under no illusions that this is going to be
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: a big comeback year. I think that they this is
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: more of a iph It's not one thing, it's the
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: other type situation. I think that for baseball. It's a
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: bigger blow just because Bobby Waitt was having another phenomenal year.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: He's going to be in the conversation and at the
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: end of the year for you know, top five MVP
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: type votes, He's going to be there a lot. He's
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: one of the kind of turn a little bit into
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: the ozier mirrors of the of of the of the Royals.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: So like he's he's an incredible player to watch and
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: there's not a ton to cheer for there, So having
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: the one guy you can see do amazing things and
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: the every single night was kind of the draw. And
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: now that draw is going to have to take some
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: time off. So yeah, I think that it's gonna be
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: hard to really keep up keep up on anything the
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Royals are doing at this point.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome back a little break time show.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Heyo, Tony just completed a thirty four pitch bullpen session
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: in five Philly. According to Javanese media members, or Tani
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: threw his full compliment of pitches.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: David Ves. I would never get I always get his
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: name wrong, David Vess. He actually interviewed, Yeah.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Uh cool, Like what do we I mean cool?
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: This is why I said you can never win a
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: cy young because he's always got something where the hitting
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: takes precedent over the pitching.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: And to me, this is just another example.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just we we sold you sold this a dream,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: and this is the first year we've got to see
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: kind of see the dream. And then he's ass knee. Guys,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: he's got a knee problem, his knee sore. Give him
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: six or eight months, you know, excuse me. And then
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: he's that he's throwing a throwing a bullpen like the
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: week later. So I'm like, what's the plan. Uh. Dave
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Roberts coming out and said, it's you know, it's it's indefinite.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: We don't know when when he's gonna come back. I
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: think this is a situation. It's like they're the most
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: careful organization in the league at this point. I think
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: they they're not shy about using the ale and getting
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: guys a lot of rest and then and a little
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: bit extra rest and then just ten percent more rest
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: on top of that to make sure they're good. And
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's going to be
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: about winning in October for them. So if he can
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: hit and they're going to keep hitting, pitching's just pitching
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: is just the one pitch you know can put you
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: out for a year type of of of role, and
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: they're just like, that's just a chance you're not willing
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: to take with the guy who wins an MVP as
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: a DH every year.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: All right, welcome back.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: We're going to a little Blue Jay's a little more
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Blue Jays talk, even though they just continue to suck Trevor.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: They recalled David Schneider and Adam Maco, optioning Sean Keys
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: and placing Patrick Corban on the ale with a left
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: terrace major strain. That sounds like it's painful. David Schneider
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: popular player. They're very happy he's back, but just do
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: anything for the Blue Jays.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: They just got to like score the morons into the
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: team at this point, I mean, Laddie Gladdy's been not
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: doing Gladdie things. They've just been super inconsistent and it's
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: a shame because there's been some really bright spots from
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: the back of the bullpen. LUs Orland's been incredible, Like
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: if if they were able to have more leads going
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: into the end of the game, they would be holding
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: those leads pretty well. I think that it feels like
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: missed opportunities. So, yeah, this this doesn't really move the needle.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: It's just been kind of a blow after blow, especially
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: after how last year went. It was truly magical. They
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: want to get back. It's just been a lot of
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: bad luck and a lot of a lot of just
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: things not falling their way. It's it's hate to see it.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Is it that hard? Again? I never lost the World Series?
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but like every team that loses the
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: World Series, really I don't mean that that was a
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: humble brag or a game but I don't get into that.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: But is it that hard when you lose the World
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Series to get back and have a good year that
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: next year?
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: You would think the motivation would be there, it would
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: be more, Yeah, more you would You would think you
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: would have more. I honestly think because and you know,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: you went through you said, you said you did like
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: having a month shorter offseason that could be a big,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: big deal, and then not actually having the prize at
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: the end. Maybe you're just exhausted, still exhausted from that run.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: All right, we're back spreading rumors. Man, I could go
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: for a PB peanut butter sandwich right now. I'm kind
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: of hungry. I don't know why I had a lunch,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: A nice lunch too, But uh, we're gonna stick on
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: the Blue Jays thing. Kevin Gossman, Uh it came out.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know how people find out these things. Who
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: leaks it to the press. But he has eight teams
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: he cannot be traded to, Reds, Brewers, Tigers, mets A's,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: White Socks, Pirates, Mariners. Now there's a lot of playoff
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: teams in there. There's some teams that he wouldn't be
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: traded to anyways. But yesterday I think we had Jim
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Boden on He said Kevin Goswa looked great as a
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: White Sox. He looked great as a Brewers too, a
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: Brewer too. So how do these First of all, how
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: do these lists get out unless he tells somebody or
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: his agent tells somebody. Then second of all, why did
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: he pick these teams? It seems like he picked again.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: It seems like he picked teams that wouldn't be good.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: And then he looks up and he's like, Oh, the
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: Brewers are pretty good, they'd be kind of fun to
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: play for. Oh, the White Socks aren't bad. The Mariners
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: they have been to the postseason. I don't know, it's
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: It's a very strange list to me.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to remember when he signed his deal.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Uh at what was happening at that point, because I mean,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I come on, man like that, you know, I know,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: I know the you love we love the White Sox,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: but like, yeah, they just weren't doing much for a
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: few years there, and it was kind of a kind
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: of a sad situation. And I understand that. But like
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: there's a couple of teams here. You're like, what do
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: the Brewers ever do the Brewers have been in the
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: in it every year, year after year all the time.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: You just not like the Field and Milwaukee it was
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: you just don't want to have to stay in the
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: haunted hotel for more than three three days? Like, what
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: is what's going on there? It seems it seems odd.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I think the other a lot of these these other
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: you know names are yeah, like I don't want to
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: go to Sacramento. I understand that. I totally get that. Yeah,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: it seems like an odd on odd list, But I
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: think that he's probably he would probably loosen it up
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: for a couple of those, Namely, I think the Mariners
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: and Brewers, especially with you got you can go and
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: you can throw at your opposite hand in the Mariners
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: probably throw just as well as you throw it anywhere else.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: It seems like, so it's a great place to pitch.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Why would you want to go there? I don't know.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, now, this was five years ago when he
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: did this list, because he signed in twenty one, so maybe.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: The Brewers are the weird one there then in that
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: point in that case.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: But I thought I thought he was ten to five.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: I had to look it up.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: This is his fifth year with the Blue Jays, so
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: he's he's not gonna get to the ten five where
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: he would have total power, because he's already got the
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: ten years.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: He just doesn't have the five with the Blue Jays.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: So they're gonna trade him and then he's gonna have
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: to start over, which is really really gonna suck for
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: him if.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: He does get moved.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: But I mean normally to normally, players go like they
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: don't want to go to a big market, right so
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: they say no Boston, no New York, no Chicago, no
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: those bits int La or they say I don't want
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: to go to the sucky team. So maybe five years
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: ago these are the teams he thought were gonna suck,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: and he picked these eight and he stuck with it.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: And I don't know, he could always wave it, but
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: they could always pay him a couple hundred grand or
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: something whatever to wave it. But we'll see what happens
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: with Kevin Gosman. He did walk off the field trivor
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know if he saw it and took his
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: time getting off the field in Toronto after his last start.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: That's usually well, it's it's ay indicator that he's thinking
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: about it, and that's always a I always tip a
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: cap to a guy who like it, has the wherewithal
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: to actually do that. I think that's something that every
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: every player needs to do from time to time. Just
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: be where am I? What am I doing? This is
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: pretty cool? Wow? Even if he end up staying so,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: but yeah, that's what fancy is they see, Oh no, Kevin,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: please don't go so, but he'd be he'd be a
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: prized He would be a prize for any team that
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: can go get him a lot of starting pitching. A
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: lot of a lot of teams on the CUSP right now,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: a lot of teams need to started pitching.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: True. By the way, apparently Ken Rosenthal put that out
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: our senior.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to ask him next time I see
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: it how he gets all this into that information. He'll
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: never reveal sources, though. Trevor which annoys the heck out
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: of me. But we'll have to find out.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna have to hold him down and
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: make him meat a salad in order.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: To get me get to where he is by telling
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• 26:17
  Speaker 2: True, true. All right, let's go to Zach Wheeler.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: If you remember, a couple of years ago, Zach Wheeler
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: said he will not pitch after his contract was over.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: In twenty twenty seven, he said it again, but he
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: also said he might he might change it, but I
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Here's the thing I knew when my career was over,
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: my contract was up with the Braves.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: I was almost I was thirty nine.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: I was gonna turn forty that offseason, and it just
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: wasn't the same going to the park every day. Now,
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: I wasn't having a great year whatever, But even when
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: I've had good years, I had bad years, but it
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: was always fun to go to the park. It just
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: got to a point where I couldn't get ready for it.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: So Trevor has a pitcher. How do you know when
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: it's time? Do you know when it's time does your
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: body tell you it's time to the team's not signing,
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: you tell you, sim how do you know when it's
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: time to hang it up?
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's different for everybody, right you could
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: do the the Joeyvada route or you can do the
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: me route. And I knew going into my final year
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: that that was it. But this is a family thing too,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: and just kind of what I wanted out of, where
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: I wanted to live, what I wanted to be doing
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: every day. But that's not the case for everybody. I
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: think that in this day and age now, you can
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: see the writing on the wall pretty well with your
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: stuff because it's pretty clear on how situations are, how
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: you're being evaluated and can be given another contract. I
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: had a really good year my last year, but my
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: peripheral stats were the worst they'd ever been, and I
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: was like, it's funny that I probably had on paper
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: some of the best consistency I've ever had as a pitcher,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: being more of a veteran now, but I'm going to
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: get off for less money next year, and uh, I
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: don't want to deal with that. And I was already
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: kind of like like if things were going really poorly.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much I would have behind getting going.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: So I think that a lot of it has to
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: do with you feel it coming. But when it comes
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: to pitching, like you have to go with how guys
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: reacting to your stuff. Guys can feel terrible. Guys will
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: pitch till their arm falls off. I mean Rich Hill, Yeah,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Rich would tell me like, yeah, I feel horrendous, like
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I've been't felt good in ten years. But he just
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: he's like, but they but the hitters are just telling
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: me I can still get him out. And that's what
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I that's the part I like, I don't care how
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: my body feels. I'm like, that's crazy, But hey man,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: that's what you want to do, so or you can
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: do the Eddie Gerdado. He just went to spring training
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: once row up the third day was like, eh, I
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: don't like this anymore. I think I want to go home,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: and then just left. And that's how his career did.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: So it's just it's it's different for everybody that some
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: one day you look up and and you're done. Or
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: and when some guys just plant it and they get
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: to go and get get rocking chairs made out of
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: broken bats, like maroon RIVERA. Some guys get that, but
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: those are rare. Most guys just kind of fade into
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: the to the shrubs, like like Homer.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Since agree agreed, so I don't know. We'll see. We'll
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: see what happens with Zach Wheeler. It's funny. He said
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: he absolutely would not pitch, but he's like, man.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: I'll tendant too with a two era and have a
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: five war and uh.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, uh yeah.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: I think I might keep pitching now because if a
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: team wants to pay me thirty or forty million.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Why would I not take that money and run. So
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: we'll see what happens with Zach Wheeler.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be interesting, especially since his I believe his
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: last year is next year with the CBA and all that.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: But we kind of hit it with pap uh e World.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: As Chapman was rumored to be traded to the White
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: Sox at has been shot down. Of course, teams are
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: gonna shoot it down because they don't want to roll
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: as Chapman thinking they don't want him and the White Sox,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: whoever there prospects were allegedly going to be traded, they
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: don't want them to think that they were going to
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: be traded. Uh, yeah, see someone Chris Catillo had someone
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: shoot down there. Rold As Chaman and White Sox think
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: at warp speed of carry on, of course, because they
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: were winning fifteen games in a row. If they had
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: lost fifteen games in a row, rold As Chapman would
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: be a White Sox already. Sonny Gray is no longer
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: probably on the list. As Pap said, how quickly have
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: you ever been on a team, Trevor where this has.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Changed that quickly?
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Where you're one day you're completely out of it, and
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: you wake up two weeks later and you are, Wow, guys,
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: we're in a position here to make the playoffs and
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: possibly the World Series a little bit.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: In twenty fifteen with Tory Hunters. Last year with the Twins,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: we were not so we were supposed to win like sixty games,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: and then we were like, oh we have you know,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: we're on pace to win eighty eight, eighty nine games
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: here we can make playoffs. And it just kind of
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: like kept going and we were like, we're gonna be sellers,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: are gonna be sellers, were gonna sellers, And suddenly we
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: rattled like I think seven straight off or something going
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: last two weeks and we're like, we could, we could
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: buy and then we ended up missing by game. Anyways,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: but that was probably the closest I've ever gotten. But
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: I just think that there's twelve playoff teams, like five hundred,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Like last we have Mets Reds. They're like, who's gonna
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: make it? And they're both like two games over like
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: the whole time, and it's ten years ago. They would
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: just be out of it. Both these teams would be selling.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: It wouldn't be close, Like you can't get in the
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: playoffs with eighty three wins and then you can do that.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: So it's really hard. I don't envy the decisions having
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: to be made for an offices for teams that are
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: fifty and fifty and be like, I mean, conceivably we're
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: a five game win streak away from being, you know,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: the second wild card, or we lose five and then
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: we're out way at we feel like we're way out
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: of it. It's kind of some big decisions to make
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: for some things that just might not work out because
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: there's so many other teams in the in the mix.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: But for the Red Sox, it's a no brainer for me,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: like you should just throw all that stuff out. You
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: should go for it, no matter how the next couple
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: of weeks ago. You should be going for it because
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: you're not going to be able to get far enough
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: out of it to where you won't be in it
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: coming the end of the year anyway. So you keep
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: the guys you are throwing the best. You have, one
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: of the better closers, one of the most consistent closers
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: out there. Keep them, and one of the best starting pitchers.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Keep them.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Agree But by the way, it's all about what the
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: analytics says, Trevor. So if the analytics says we go
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: for it, then we go for it. There's no gut
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: feelings anymore. It's whatever the little computer. When they're sitting
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: there and Craig Brozlow sits there and goes put types
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: in his algorithm in his little formula, and if it
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: pops out, trade.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: For this guy. They do it.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: And if it doesn't, then he says, you know what,
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: John Henry, I saved you two million dollars, so give
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: me a raise.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: That's how works up, Dave Boston.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: We fixed it. There's no more AI on the iPads.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Everything's fine. Okay, what are you talking about anymore. We're fine.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: There's no more.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: There's no more AI. I don't know. I didn't even
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: know there was AI. But now AI, there's we can
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: get into AI. There's a whole AI thing where AI
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: figured out a way to like break into other teams,
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: the companies.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Oh for whatever, we don't have enough time.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: But I mean, this is all I read about. Man,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: you would you would be, It would spin your head.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: That's why I don't.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Want to know. I don't want to know. I don't
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: want to know. I'm excited for this.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: I am excited at Trevor for this because I cannot
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: wait to see your trade predictions. And I am also
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: I can't wait to just say yes or no whether
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: I think these are realistic or not. So let's jump
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: right into it.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Trevor.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: May you have your board, you have your predictions. Let's
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: hear what you're right or wrong about.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Well, you know how predictions go. They're always really great
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: to make, and it feels so good when you're completely wrong.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: I will, I will, be honest. There's some vibes in here,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: There's some there's some This just makes sense to me
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: because that's the type of player that goes to that team.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: But those are the ones that never happened.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Those are the ones that or they are the one.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Sometimes a guy like a like an obscure reliever goes right,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: oh no, that that tracks. I just didn't think of
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: that guy. So I tried to add some deep cuts
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: in here. There's there's three deep cuts and people like okay,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: So I wanted to bring to bring that spice to
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: foul territory number one. Uh, we're just talking about whether
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: or not we think the Twins are going to trade.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: They traded eleven guys last year, and they're very data
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: driven as well. They're probably not a playoff team this year.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: I know they're only three games out, but they're just
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: good offense. The pitching hasn't been as good as they've
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: wanted to, especially the bullpen. Joe Ryan back to the Rays,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: as you know, he was in the minors with them,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: and uh, this is coming from mostly he added him
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: to uh Rastusen and and uh McLanahan. I think he
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: fits right into there. I think that he is the
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: type of pitch mix that team likes. He's got a
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: little bit of controllability still on him, and they are
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: familiar and the Twins love trading with the Rays. That's
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: that's a big, a big indicator for me. It's almost
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: inevitable that the Rays get someone or make some move
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: with either the Mariners the Twins in It's every single year,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: and I think this is going to be that one.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: So what do you got on number one? From me?
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: I like it. I just I actually like this one
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: a lot.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: I'm not I can't really get on you about this
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: one because it doesn't make too much sense.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: I would listen, there's nothing wrong with Joe Ryan.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: He's really good, but I just wish the Rays would
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: shoot a little bit higher for a school bol right.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Are Joe Ryan's really good? Listen, Joe Ryan's really good.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Yes, you throw McClanahan, Rasmussen, Nick Martinez, Joe Ryan and
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: the back end of their bullpen with Baker the way
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: he's thrown, and Junior Cam and Arrow, with the year
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: he's had in Ronda and uh Yondi Diaz. I can't
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: argue with it. Now they got to get a catcher too,
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: but I think I think Joe Ryan would be the
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Joe Ryan is more of the Rays move than the
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Turks Google move, which.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, yeah, so this is probably more
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: the more likely or more maybe realistic side of things.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: There's some non realistic ones here that are that are exciting.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: We can move on to number two. This one's a
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: no brainer to me. First of all. For some reason
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: in my in my brain, I have this feeling like
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I feel like Taylor Ward has already played for the Phillies,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: but they need an outfielder. They got to play the
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: league average a defense. What he does is he got
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: the pop that he had a couple of years ago
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: when he have thirty one home runs. No, does he
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: have the potential to lead the park? Yes? Is it
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: a small park? Yes? Has he walked eighty times? Is
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: leading this team by thirty walks? Yes? They need a
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: guy to get on base and let Schwarber hit a
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: two run home run. That's what they need, and I
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: think that this is the guy to do it. You know,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: not not a ton of pop, he's not producing a lot,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: but he's on base at a thirty three eighty seven
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: on base percentage. That's the type of guy they need.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: And he plays adequate defense. I think he is exactly
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: and then and he's a right handed stick in a
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: left handed, heavy lineup like it just kind of makes
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: all the sense in the world. And I think they'd
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: be willing to part with him be it wouldn't be
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: super expensive. So I think he's a good fit. I
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: think he's a good depth pick for the Phillies. How
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: do you feel about I.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Don't mind this.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: I just don't know that the Orioles are going to
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: do this because I think that they believe they're still
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: in it even though they probably aren't.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Right. And the thing that.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Worries about me about Taylor Ward is he's in Baltimore,
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: which is also a really good part to hit in,
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: and he has seven homers and twenty seven arbiys that
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's goenning. He's walking more, but the production
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: because he's walking more has gone way down.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: But I love listen.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: The Phillies need a right handed bat, a right handed
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: hitting outfield bat especially.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: It makes it makes a lot of sense.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: It's just a little bit of worry because his production
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: has fallen off so much.
• 36:49
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• 36:51
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• 36:53
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• 37:50
  Speaker 1: I just think they can put that right now. What
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: about the Oorls. Oorls have Pelonzo. P Alonzo is their production.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: He's got twenty more iized anybody in the team. Put
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: him on a team with Wish, Warbur and Harper and
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: a little bit more production. Maybe maybe those those walks
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: translateing more runs, which is what they need and they
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: want to They just don't want to spend a bunch
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: of money on it. Which it's a very specific it's
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: a very specific position. You need that everyone knows you need.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Maybe you can get someone who cheaper. He's probably cheaps
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: onot number three on this. This is maybe my big
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: swing that I just he's got. He's got Yankees written
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: all over him. They need they have a catcher problem.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Hunter Goodman, Rockies. They did it with McMahon, they're gonna go.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: They might do it with Hunter Goodman. Give us someone
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: who hits homers and swings and misses all a lot
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: and uh that is that is Hunter Goodman. And he's
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: a right handed that they're they're missing some pop without
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: judge he could add that, but he does. He does
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: with quite a bit. He's in the bottom five percent
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: pretty much everything except for hitting ball real hard. But
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: he's got thirty one home runs over there in Colorado.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: How much that's Colorado aided, Actually not as much. He's
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: got eighteen on the road, so Hunter Goodman Yankees. But
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: that might take cat quite a hall and that would
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: probably close the door on Mason Miller. That's probably the
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: bigger prize if they would want.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: So, I think this one makes total sense. He fits
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: in perfectly with the Yankees. He strikes out a ton,
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: he hits a ton of homers. Yanke's not he's not
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: great defensively, but he's not awful defensively. They love Austin
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: Wells because of his defense. He's having an awful year, right.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: The Yankees just don't do these trades in the middle
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: of the season. They don't make these moves like this,
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: and that's the one draw. Other than that, I think
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: it would be great. I mean, you could add another
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: right handed bat, you could add a lot of slug
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: especially in Yankee Stadium. But you see the hundred and
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: twenty nine strikeouts, that's a lot of strikeouts, a lot.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: That's it's almost thirty. It's one every three times he
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: walks up there. But again, that fits in line with
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: what the Yankees do. They hit homers, they strike out,
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: that's their thing, right, and they pitt really well. So
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: I just I don't I just I actually think this
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: would be a great move for the Yankees. I just
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: don't think that they'll do it in the middle of
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: the season.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, probably not, but it'd be cool. It'd be great.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: All right, let's let's let's go to the pictures. Freddy
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Prowl is going back. Sure, let's do it.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: They do.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: They just trade the guys back right back, great, come
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: on back.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Come on back.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: You figure out your cutter and in Flushing, we're gonna
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: just run it back. And then Stern's gonna be like, hey,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: my bad, like that's and Freddie's back, Oh my god.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: And then he's gonna go and he's gonna be old Freddy.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: And so how it's gonna work. That's such a Brewers move.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: And also Freddy just flipping back into into ace Freddy
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: immediately because he's comfortable because there's really nothing and what's
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: what he's been throwing or where he's been throwing it,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: that's changed a lot. It just seems like he's uncomfortable.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: And so maybe that's what I think is gonna happen.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: It wouldn't surprise you one bit because it's but it
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: would just be it would be a bigg on the
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: face and Sterns. That's the big thing. That's why I
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: think you'd be hesitant to do it because it would
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: look really bad. It's like you brought him in he
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: pitt really poorly sent him back. He pitches good. You're like, oh,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: well it was me, So I I think that that's
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: a good one. But uh, and then for the sake
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: of brevity, let's just I'll let you go through them
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: all after it hit him. All the last three all relievers,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: all deep cuts. None of them are are starters. These
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: are the guys that go a week until the deadline.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: We got Jojo Romero because I think the Cardinals, though
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: they have played really well in they're three games over
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: five hundred, it's just so congested right there, and there's they're,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: you know, Kim Bloom's first year. They're probably just gonna
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: either hold pat and then maybe get rid of some
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: of the some of the reliever of reliever or two.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Like if they I don't I don't think they're gonna
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: do a ton. And Jojo Romero has been a guy
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: who's been really solid for them. He's a lefty. He
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: gets left, he's out, he can he can get right.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: He's out to fireman type does a really good job.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: That's the type of guy that the Mariners want. And
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: the same The next two guys also have done this
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: role for the Reds because the bullpen has been solid,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: they've had some good good good guy Sam Mule gets
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: left hes out. He's very hard to hit for the Reds.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: So anyone who needs a lefty, which the Rangers do
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: need one. And then t j Antone with the Dodgers,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: ripping sweepers, ripping breaking balls. Really he's breaking balls are
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: his thing and that's what the Dodgers like. I think
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: that uh and Anton's had an incredible year and I
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: don't think anyone's really noticed he's got two three, So
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: I think those would be good low level. No one's
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: really seeing it coming. The Reds have a blood of
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: those guys, and the Reds are out of it, so
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: I think that I think that those have got what
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: you got on what you got on my pitching.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: I actually like all those Ferry going back would be amazing,
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: just for for vibes, right for vibes, happy Freddy, Uh
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: the relievers is I think Jojo Romero didn't he just
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: have an appendice.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Easy for me, I might have dis missed that.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he did.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: I'm not exactly sure, but I think he just had
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: an appendectomy, which, hey, whatever is fine. I mean, but
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Adam Dunn came back in like a week, so I
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: don't know they can be out that long with that.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Uh, what's now, it's mikeil Brian's going to the Mariner
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: fix it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine either one.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I like these movies because these are the
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  Speaker 3: moves that actually win for you, these little moves in
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  Speaker 3: win you these these divisions. So listen, I gave my opinion.
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  Speaker 2: To go to the right team. So Trevor, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: I love you putting your I love that you put
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  Speaker 2: It, all right.
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  Speaker 3: Congrats to the Captain Aaron Judge. Ten years of service time.
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  Speaker 3: cool accomplishment if you get did you get to ten years?
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  Speaker 1: Help? That's cool. Pulled the shoot man a little bit
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  Speaker 1: before we hit the mark, but hey, you know, congratulations,
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  Speaker 1: you did you did it, Aaron. Now we're playing with
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  Speaker 3: Now we have a good time exactly, and we'll see
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