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Halloween Week: Alice Killings · Wicked and Grim: A True Crime Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Ladies, gentlemen, Theays and Dems. It's officially the eve of Halloween.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Jacko, and for the remaining two days
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  Speaker 1: I will continue to be your master of ceremonies here
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  Speaker 1: for Halloween Week with Wicked and Grim, the tales have
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  Speaker 1: turned and twisted through urban legends, haunted places, and of
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  Speaker 1: course murders. However, today we have a tale that will
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  Speaker 1: twist and turn even more than you can expect.
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  Speaker 2: Stay to the end.
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  Speaker 1: To heed just how this will upset every aspect of
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  Speaker 1: your mind and what your perspective is on this murderous case.
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  Speaker 1: Before we dive into the details that will lead us
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  Speaker 1: to such resolve, I must introduce your illustrious hosts, without
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  Speaker 1: further ado, introducing Ben and Nicole.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to Halloween Week. My name's Ben.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm Nicole, and you're listening to Wicked and.
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  Speaker 2: Grim, a true crime podcast, and today I'm drinking tea.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're both drinking tea. It's very nice.
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  Speaker 2: We did a Halloween live for carving pumpkins on Instagram.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was awesome and we.
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  Speaker 2: Had some drinks there and so now it's a it's
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  Speaker 2: a calmer evening with us.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we announced a contest actually while we're carving pumpkins,
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  Speaker 3: we do want to share about.
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  Speaker 2: That, sure, so over on Instagram. If you go ahead
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  Speaker 2: and post a picture of your carve pumpkin in an
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  Speaker 2: Instagram story and tag us, we'll check it out and
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  Speaker 2: that'll immediately enter you into a giveaway. Do you want
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  Speaker 2: to tell them the prize and the giveaway?
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  Speaker 3: It's actually a pretty ep at prize. We're doing a
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  Speaker 3: Jacko blanket to the way, like that is so cool.
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  Speaker 2: So a big old fluffy blanket that you can curl
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  Speaker 2: up with with a big old picture of Jacko on
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  Speaker 2: the front.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: So it's not a skill based pumpkin carving contest. It's
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  Speaker 2: just a you enter your pumpkin and your name's in
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  Speaker 2: the draw. As simple as that.
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  Speaker 3: Fun.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, So anyone can enter as long as you
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  Speaker 2: carve a pumpkin and tag us in an Instagram story.
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  Speaker 2: Simple as that. Perfect, And then we'll announce the winner
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  Speaker 2: on Halloween, which is tomorrow when we do another Instagram live.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, it's just like getting close, hey it is.
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  Speaker 2: This has been a whirlwind. Halloween week is always super
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  Speaker 2: busy for us, of course, episode after episode, but we
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  Speaker 2: love doing it. It's so fun. So thank you guys
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  Speaker 2: for amazing support this whole way.
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  Speaker 3: It's an awesome week. This afternoon, we also watched The Shining.
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  Speaker 2: We did.
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  Speaker 3: We did look at Us watching? Was is that considered
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  Speaker 3: a horror movie?
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a psychological thriller technically.
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  Speaker 3: Look at us go, well, look at me go. You're
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  Speaker 3: more into that than I am.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they're they're cool movies regardless.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was actually good. I enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 2: It was here's Johnny gotta love it.
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  Speaker 3: Classic, classic, and see I didn't really know where that
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  Speaker 3: was from before.
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  Speaker 2: Have you not seen The Shining?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't watched many spooky films. Really, we should.
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  Speaker 2: Watch another one tonight, let's do it. Which which one
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  Speaker 2: should it be?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to think on that, think of a
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  Speaker 2: good classic one to throw on. Yeah, maybe like a
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  Speaker 2: Friday the thirteenth. Have you seen those ones?
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I've seen because there's more than one right,
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, so I feel like I've seen some. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: like just just look at the list that we put
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  Speaker 3: out last year. I'm like the movies and maybe pick
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  Speaker 3: one off there because we did we did a list
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  Speaker 3: last year of the best I.
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  Speaker 2: Forgot all about that list. Oh did you I think
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  Speaker 2: we should have done one this year too, Yeah, did
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  Speaker 2: one last year.
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  Speaker 3: That's okay. Yeah, we can even re share that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll take a look at that list and see
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  Speaker 2: what else we should watch. Yeah, well, I think we
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  Speaker 2: should get onto this case. We shouldn't BLib lab too much.
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  Speaker 2: If that's even a word, I don't know, but I
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  Speaker 2: think we carry onto this case. It's a Wicked and
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  Speaker 2: Graham terminology. Official in the dictionary. It means blabbing, if
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  Speaker 2: you blid blab.
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  Speaker 3: To blab onwards and onwards.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it means to blab excessively on the introduction of
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  Speaker 2: your podcast episode. That's what it's official definition.
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  Speaker 3: Let's dictionary, let's do it.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah, no more blid blabbing. Let's get into this case.
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  Speaker 3: Let's dive in.
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  Speaker 2: You ready, I am so. As Jacko alluded, there is
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  Speaker 2: a bit of a twist at the end of this,
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  Speaker 2: so be prepared for that.
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  Speaker 3: And he said stay till the end.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, So yeah, without further ado, let's let's let's do this. So.
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  Speaker 2: This is known as the Alice Killings, and it takes
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  Speaker 2: place in Japan. Oh, okay, so this took place between
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  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine and two thousand and five. Now, a
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  Speaker 2: series of five murders occurred. Sorry, I gotta like it.
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  Speaker 3: Just my microf out here. Wasn't actually that long ago?
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  Speaker 2: No, it wasn't. So the five killings on their own
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  Speaker 2: didn't seem really connected in any way to authorities. They
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  Speaker 2: may never have actually drawn a line from one to
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  Speaker 2: the other because they were so different, really, had it
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  Speaker 2: not been for a calling card that was left behind
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  Speaker 2: at each of the crime scenes. So the killer would
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  Speaker 2: leave a random playing card at each scene in a
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  Speaker 2: very conspicuous location. Now, that in itself is probably enough.
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  Speaker 2: But the card had something very specific pick tying them
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  Speaker 2: all together.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, it was written right on the face of
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  Speaker 2: the card, and it would contain the name Alice, and
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  Speaker 2: it would be written in the victim's blood.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, gross, I hate that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So if that's not and of course that's where
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  Speaker 2: it gets the nickname the Alice Killings.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. So it would just say Alice in
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  Speaker 3: the victim's blood, correct, Wow, Okay, as simple as.
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  Speaker 2: That, just just Alice. And then people were asking who
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  Speaker 2: the fuck is Alice? I think that went over yet.
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  Speaker 3: That's a song I know, Alice, Alice. I was thinking, Alice,
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  Speaker 3: are you okay? I made it better? Alice, are you okay?
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember who sings it, but the song goes
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  Speaker 2: Alice Alice?
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  Speaker 3: Who the fuck is Alice? I have living.
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  Speaker 2: Next door to Alice Alice? Yeah yeah, so so yeah,
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  Speaker 2: left police wondering who the fuck is Alice? So well,
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  Speaker 2: this story starts, out of course with our first victim. Now,
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  Speaker 2: this victim was twenty nine year old restaurant to her
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  Speaker 2: and like I said, this is Japans. These are Japanese names.
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  Speaker 2: Sasaki Megumi, okay. Now, she was known for being a
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  Speaker 2: great cook and chef and dedicated to her work as
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  Speaker 2: a restaurant owner. So those who knew her described her
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  Speaker 2: as headstrong with a short temper and sharp tongue when
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  Speaker 2: dealing with her employees. But by the sounds of it,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think she was like a bad boss or
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  Speaker 2: like a mean individual by any means. It seemed like
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  Speaker 2: she was just very passionate about her job and wanted
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  Speaker 2: to ensure that others weren't harming the business. That she
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  Speaker 2: was pouring her heart and soul into kind of thing.
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  Speaker 3: That's fair.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't judge anyone for that. I mean, if
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  Speaker 2: you're sitting here trying to run a business and open
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  Speaker 2: a restaurant, you wanted to succeed, and then you have
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  Speaker 2: like a cook or a server that comes in and
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  Speaker 2: they're just being a douche canoo. Yeah, of course you're
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  Speaker 2: going to get a sharp tongue towards him, right.
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  Speaker 3: Restaurants like the restaurant in the street's very competitive, right.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and it's a high rate of failure for
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  Speaker 2: a new restaurant to open.
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  Speaker 3: I mean that's stressful.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So anyways, one night, Sasaki was attending a party
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  Speaker 2: at her friend's house. She was having some drinks, hanging
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  Speaker 2: out and most importantly, unloading some of that stress that
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  Speaker 2: comes along with being a business owner and entrepreneur.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, very important to do that more often.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's important for everyone to relax in.
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  Speaker 3: Some way shape r I know, but especially like being
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  Speaker 3: a business owner. Sometimes it's just it's hard to not
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  Speaker 3: be a workaholic.
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So as the evening went on, the drinks kept coming,
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  Speaker 2: and according to eyewitnesses who were at the party who
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  Speaker 2: have friends and everything. She was a little bit too
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  Speaker 2: drunk to drive. She definitely shouldn't have been driving home,
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  Speaker 2: and she probably shouldn't be going home on her own.
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  Speaker 2: Regardless of the situation, several people offered to drive her
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  Speaker 2: home or a company or on the route home to
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  Speaker 2: ensure she made it nice and safe, but for one
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  Speaker 2: reason or another she refused. Dang, my thought is probably
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of a pride thing, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: No I got this like, she's an a restaurant owner,
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  Speaker 2: she's an entrepreneur. She probably got a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: pride and a little bit of a stubborn head to
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  Speaker 2: her right.
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  Speaker 3: So well, honestly that makes sense too. And honestly, terms,
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  Speaker 3: if you haven't had a few too many drinks though,
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  Speaker 3: you'd think you're still fine when you're not. Oh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I can make it home, like, yeah, don't worry about me.
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  Speaker 2: So, for one reason or another, she did refuse the offers,
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  Speaker 2: and she left the party, walking off into the night
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  Speaker 2: by herself at about one am. This was the last
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  Speaker 2: time she was ever seen a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Dang saw that coming for sure.
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  Speaker 2: So the following day, her body was found in some
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  Speaker 2: woods only about a mile from her house. Shit A
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  Speaker 2: couple was walking down the overgrown path when they came
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  Speaker 2: across a huge stain of blood in the dirt in
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  Speaker 2: front of them. Now, thinking someone may be hurt and
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  Speaker 2: in need of assistance or help in some way, they
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  Speaker 2: followed the trail of blood a short distance and just
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  Speaker 2: up ahead of them her body was found. No, she
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  Speaker 2: had been torn to pieces suits various parts of her
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  Speaker 2: body was scattered around with organs and more strung up
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  Speaker 2: hanging from branches of trees.
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  Speaker 3: Are you fucking me?
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  Speaker 2: That's what the story says.
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  Speaker 3: Holy shit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was not a pretty sight. It was
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  Speaker 2: a brutal scene, especially for someone just kind of like
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  Speaker 2: on a stroll in the woods.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's brutal and like, oh what she went through? Okay?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So after authorities were called and the investigation began,
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  Speaker 2: they found a playing card, the Jack of Spades, with
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  Speaker 2: the word Alice written in her blood, and the card
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  Speaker 2: was found crammed into her mouth.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Okay.
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  Speaker 2: This was the only thing the killer left behind. No DNA,
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  Speaker 2: no murder weapon, no footprints, no forensic evidence was ever
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  Speaker 2: found from this case. Only the playing card.
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  Speaker 3: Tell me this case is a solved one. You don't
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  Speaker 3: have to, but please, for the love of God, let
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  Speaker 3: it be solved.
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  Speaker 2: I can't say that without giving away the twist at
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  Speaker 2: the end.
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  Speaker 3: Kat.
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  Speaker 2: The second victim was a young man named Yamain Akioh
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  Speaker 2: now Yumaine was the singer of a small time band
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  Speaker 2: that had high hopes of making it to the top,
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  Speaker 2: just like any young aspiring artist, right so, currently they
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  Speaker 2: mostly played small local gigs like bars and parties, and
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  Speaker 2: Yamaine's friends described him as a kind of soul who
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  Speaker 2: may have had a loud voice while performing, but would
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  Speaker 2: never really raise his voice off stage, right, so he
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  Speaker 2: had his confidence when he was performing. One night in
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  Speaker 2: February of two thousand and one, Yamaine went missing and
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  Speaker 2: was last seen in his own department. His friends and
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  Speaker 2: bandmates were the last ones to see him there. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the investigation led authorities to look through security cameras that
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  Speaker 2: was operating in the property. One of the cameras were
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  Speaker 2: pointed towards his apartment entrance. On the footage, they saw
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  Speaker 2: a man with a hood covering his face force his
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  Speaker 2: way into the apartments. Then a few minutes later, the
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  Speaker 2: individual is seen exiting the building. This time, however, he
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  Speaker 2: is carrying a large white garbage bag and apparently there
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  Speaker 2: is slight movements coming from inside the bag.
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  Speaker 3: Holy, Okay, how can you just carry a body in
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  Speaker 3: a garbage bag like that? Oat?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's questions around that for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and then it also seems like this person like
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  Speaker 3: he's targeting someone and he knew them.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you will definitely see if there is a there's
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  Speaker 2: a correlation to targeting this individual here in a moment,
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  Speaker 2: you'll see this. No matter how hard they looked into
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  Speaker 2: the footage and asked around, no one is able to
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  Speaker 2: identify the strange person, and Jamaine continued to remain missing.
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  Speaker 2: A week into the investigation, police got a phone call
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  Speaker 2: from a local bar where Yumaine and his band often play.
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  Speaker 2: Inside the bar, the owner had found ya.
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  Speaker 3: Mean passed away deceased.
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  Speaker 2: He was found sitting at one of the tables with
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  Speaker 2: his vocal cords ripped out, laying on the table in
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  Speaker 2: front of him, and he had been shot in the head. Holy,
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  Speaker 2: So this individual would have clearly known that this is
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  Speaker 2: a place where he performed. Yeah, vocal cords clearly knows
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  Speaker 2: he's a vocal artist. So clearly there is something there
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  Speaker 2: now in his hands. Authorities found a playing card clasped
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  Speaker 2: in his fingers, and the playing card was the King
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  Speaker 2: of Diamonds, and on that card in his blood.
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  Speaker 3: It said Alice.
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  Speaker 2: Alice. After his death, the musician group broke up and
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  Speaker 2: didn't want to replace their vocal artists, so they just
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: went their separate ways.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that's really sad. This is I mean, not that,
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  Speaker 3: I mean for both these victims. It's both of them.
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  Speaker 3: Seemed like they just had so much promise ahead of them, right,
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  Speaker 3: that just got completely taken away.
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  Speaker 2: That's true. So the third victim was a teenage girl
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  Speaker 2: named Kai Sakura. She was kind pretty well liked by
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  Speaker 2: her classmates and she was reported missing by her parents
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  Speaker 2: and her remains would be found two days after the
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  Speaker 2: report was filed. She was buried and discovered in a
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  Speaker 2: shallow grave that was marked with a stick stuck out
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  Speaker 2: on the fresh dirt that was on top of where
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  Speaker 2: she laid. Now, on top of the stick that was
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  Speaker 2: stuck into the ground, there was a playing car.
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  Speaker 3: Oh shit, Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
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  Speaker 2: The Queen of Clubs was attached at the top with
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  Speaker 2: the bloody name Alice once again written on it. When
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  Speaker 2: she was exhumed, it was found that she was brutally mutilated.
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  Speaker 2: She had suffered a horrible death, as her eyes had
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  Speaker 2: been cut out and was skinned alive.
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  Speaker 3: Wo oh seriously.
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  Speaker 2: On her head a crown had been sewn into place,
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  Speaker 2: and a note was left laying on top of her body. Now,
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  Speaker 2: most of it was incoherent words and phrases, but a
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  Speaker 2: few were eligible, and they read death is a distorted dream.
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  Speaker 2: It will always rule, and the one who died is lucky.
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  Speaker 1: Hm.
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  Speaker 3: Who the fuck is doing this? Hey? Because these are
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  Speaker 3: just like more than just kills, Like it's quite disturbing.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: It's very disturbing what this person is doing to these people.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so where's your head at on this? Because, like
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  Speaker 2: I said, remember, there is a major twist at the end,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't think you're going to see it coming.
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  Speaker 3: I know, I know, because like it doesn't really seem
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  Speaker 3: like these people are connected and like he's a serial killer,
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  Speaker 3: but they're also not very close together necessarily the murders,
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  Speaker 3: because this was a span over like five years or
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  Speaker 3: so when he did five right.
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  Speaker 2: Correct, six years I believe, nineteen ninety ninety, two thousand
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  Speaker 2: and five.
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  Speaker 3: I have absolutely no idea what the twist could be like,
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  Speaker 3: I have no idea. Is it that it was like
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  Speaker 3: a police officer?
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  Speaker 1: Uh?
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  Speaker 2: No, definitely not.
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  Speaker 3: Huh, I have no idea, no idea, Hey, Like, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I'm going to be like, oh I
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  Speaker 3: should have known.
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  Speaker 2: Well no, because it's so left field. Okay, So that
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  Speaker 2: is the first three victims. The next two victims were
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  Speaker 2: young Hayoto and hina Oshiro. On April fourth of two
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  Speaker 2: thousand and five, the two young brothers oh my, found
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  Speaker 2: laying in their beds sleeping brutal but the only problem
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: is their parents couldn't wake them up. It was found
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  Speaker 2: that they died in the middle of the night and
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  Speaker 2: they were subject to a lethal injection of an unknown substance.
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  Speaker 2: Is a puncture wound was found on the back of
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  Speaker 2: both of their hands.
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  Speaker 3: Seriously, this see none of these I can't even see
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  Speaker 3: connection to any of them. So I'm struggling here. And
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  Speaker 3: their bodies were just looked pretty much the same, except
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  Speaker 3: that they had this puncture wound and were injected with
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  Speaker 3: a poison.
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  Speaker 2: Correct now, of course, like there was a playing card
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  Speaker 2: found of the scene too, though, Yeah, the Ace of
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  Speaker 2: Spades with the same bloody name written on it was
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  Speaker 2: ripped in half and each brother had clasped one half
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  Speaker 2: half in their hands.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Okay, those poor parents. This is a nightmare.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Well, arguably this there is. You could argue that there's
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: six victims because the trauma and loss of both their
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: children drove the mother to commit suice shortly later. Wow,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: left the father alone now because.
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  Speaker 3: That's these were their only two children.
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  Speaker 2: Correct?
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  Speaker 3: Holy shit?
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: It was haunted by the loss of his family and
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: was forced to seek psychological care, hence mental health problems
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: that followed.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: That's too much for anyone.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: So shortly after the death of the two brothers, police
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: managed to make their first arrest, The first and only arrest,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: a homeless man by the name of Suzuko Utah who
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: had a history of mental health problems. And he stated
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: that he could not remember where he was during any
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: time of any of these murders. Okay, this, however, isn't
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: grounds for Suzuko to get arrested. Really, Oh, I don't
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: know where I was, right, and I've got some history
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: of mental health issues. It was found, however, that Suzuko
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: was wearing the jacket that belonged to one of the
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: individuals who was murdered. It was the jacket of the
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: aspiring musician yamay Akio. Now, further examination and tests that
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: were run on the jacket found that there were red specs,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: and those red specs were Yemane's blood.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, but I feel like it could have just been
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: left on the ground or could have ended up being
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: like less somewhere or donated or something like. I feel like.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: That that's the problem. Suzuko swore he never stole the jacket,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: he claimed, and I quote a demon man dressed in
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: black who had no face, oh, gave it to him.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, who had no face? What does that even mean?
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Good question?
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: It sounds horrible. Yeah, Like I'm thinking he was just
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: wearing a mask or something. Maybe well it.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: Could be that, or he couldn't have seen his face
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: or who knows what, or maybe he had some scarring
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: or I don't know, but that's that's a quote. A
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: demon man dressed in black who had no face gave
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: it to him.
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: Okay, And like he was probably giving that away in
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: for a reason, right, for a reason of just throwing
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: the place off.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Could be I mean, that's if that is the case,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: that's a smart move, right, an individual taking something from
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: the scene, giving it to someone else, ensuring that they
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: can't see my face, they don't know who I am,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: to throw them off, and being like they're now they
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: have a lead, they're gonna chase this guy.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's smart.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: However, a homeless man might not be the best person,
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: because I mean, only luck would really tie fish or
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: authorities to them.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but who else would even necessarily want it? Right?
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: True? I mean maybe you should plant it somewhere in
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: someone's car.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Or something, I guess, But if I found a jacket
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: just planted in my car, I'd probably just be like,
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: what the frig and donate it.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Or throw in the garbage. I mean, authorities searching a
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: friend's car or something, and they don't even know it's there,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Like you know what I mean?
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Okay, ye, yeah.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: So that's my thought on if I were to throw
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: them off with false evidence, I would probably plant it
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: somewhere rather than just being like random homeless guy who
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: I hope they find it. Yeah, I'd put it somewhere.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Where I betterly was concerned that the homeless person was cold.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Maybe and I was just like, here, that's true. We
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: might have a very forgiving murder, murdering individual with no
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: face on our hands.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but he sounds like a plain monster. So I
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: can't think of him doing any good. But I'm just
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: like throwing it out there.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, at any rate, no claim on how he
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: obtained the jacket was ever able to be proven, whether
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: it be by officials or Suzuka himself. Okay, so police
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: had let him go. They didn't have anything on him
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: at this point. Even still, as it turns out, though,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: many witnesses were able to confirm Suzuka's whereabouts, even if
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: he couldn't remember himself. Yeah. On one night, for example,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: one of the murders, he was five miles away at
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: a shelter location.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, so he seems like he's a clear.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's kind of in the clear. Police have nothing
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: on him. It's just kind of like, how did he
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: end up with this jacket? It's kind of strange, right,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: And his mental problems prevent him from really knowing where
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: he was or recalling any.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Information, which is sad for him.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So he was the only suspect ever in the
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: case of the Alice killings, and the case remains a
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: mystery to this day, Oh you're serious.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: I thought you were gonna be like in to.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Well, truthfully, here's the twist. You ready for this?
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: I'm ready? Yeah? I really want to know.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: There are no such killings in Japan. There is no
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: such thing as the Alice killings. Huh, these never happened?
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: What or at least nothing where any records are there
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: to prove?
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Really? Now, the problem is there is this story that exists.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I researched this story. Okay, yeah, now for a story
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: to not ever have happened. There is some extreme details
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: depicting this case.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it sounds like this legitly happened.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: There are names, there are dates, there are locations, which
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: lead many people to ask questions, how come we know
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: so much? Is it just a completely fabricated story or
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: is there more to it behind it, such as like
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: a cover up? But there are no recorded cases of
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: these ever occurring in Japan?
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: Can my head hurts? This is confusing? This isn't This
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: is something I would have never guessed.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: That's what I was telling you. It's a complete fucking twist.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no way I would have gotten that. Ever.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Ever, your face is fucking hilarious.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm just like what I feel like I need
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: an advilmwds now to trying to figure this out.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Take a sip of tea.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Geez.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, whether or not this case is true or false,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: the fact remains there is no evidence. I mean basically
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: what it says is there's as much evidence as this
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: case as there is the Lockness Monster. This as as
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: far as right now, it's just an urban legend.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Wow, a very very turban legend.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: This is as if the Lockness Monster, we were able
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: to say how long it was, how much it weighed,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: the color of its skin, color of its eyes, where
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: it lived, what it ate like. That's how comparatible this is.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: So this doesn't make any sense.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean this this is a bit of a
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: shorter episode today here, but before we do wrap this up,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: we I do need to mention one more thing, okay,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: a little bit more of another twist.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I don't know if I can take anymore.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: There was a murderer in Spain who operated in two
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: thousand and three. He was convicted of killing six people
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: and left playing cards at his crime scene. His name
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: was Alfred or sorry Alfredo Galan, and he is known
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: as the Playing Card Killer. He has since been sentenced
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: to one hundred and forty two years in prison and
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: potentially is the inspiration for the Alice Killings and its story.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: Hmm, but he the Alice Okay, So, like the story
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: came out after two thousand and three, basically.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, I can't. I couldn't find anywhere that's said
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: when this story came out. However, the last Alice killing
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: was in two thousand and five, right, yeah, so potentially
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: this whole story did come out later.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, huh, Okay, It's very odd that there's so much detail.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: It they sound it sounds believable that these events happened.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Doesn't it. So there is literally no clear indication if
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: it's true, whether that this case of the Playing Card
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Killer from Spain actually inspired this. There is no clear
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: indication if this is real, false, just an urban legend,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: or a fucking creepy pasta someone wrote up. All we
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: know is there are stories, consistent stories with consistent names
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: and details on these individuals, and it's called the Alice Killings.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Like even to the extent the one where the two
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: boys died and the mom ends up committing suicide and
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: the dad needs psychiatric help from what he went through. Like,
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: oh my gosh, yep, huh wow, Okay, I feel like
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: you just took us through the ringer here I did.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: That's through the ringer. I don't know.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's the case of the Alice killings. Like I
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: said bit shorter today. Yeah, but I think this is
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: a worthwhile story on discussing, and I kind of want
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: to discuss the idea of urban legends a little bit here,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: just one on one, unscripted. I don't have any more
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: written down, so I kind of want to discuss urban
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: legends with you. One of the reasons why I wanted
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: to cover this a because when I first heard of
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: this story, I thought it was true. When I started
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: looking into it, that's when I only realized it's an
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: urban legend, okay. And Two, I want to present you
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: with this because you did guess the urban legends the
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: other day correctly, So I wanted to three for a
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: big loop and fuck you up.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, if you had put this one in there,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: I would definitely have thought this was true.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I did think about it, yeah, if I'm being honest,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: because I did discover this while I was researching a
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: bunch of cases to bring up for Halloween. So, but
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: one of the things I wanted to ask you is
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: if there's any urban legends that you know of off
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: the top of your head.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, off the top of my head.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Yes, because I know like there's there's lots like there
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: is Lockness Monster, there is Bigfoot, for example, or Sasquatch.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: We actually have one here in BC, the ogo pogram.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that. As you were chatting here, that came
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: to my mind.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I kind of I don't know, do you
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: believe in the yoga pogo?
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, there was this Okay, this was just
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: recently in the new Shit. I should have sent it
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: to you, but I think it was Okanagan Lake. And
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: did you see that photo?
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: I did see it.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Yes, it almost looked like it was like a wolf
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: or something underwater, but it had horns or something.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, So there is a new photo that was taken
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: this month. Yeah, in the Okanagan Lake that people are
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: saying is the yoga pogo. Yeah, there's like horns poking
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: up out of the top of the water.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: It's super bizarre. And the face I can kind of
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: see it, I guess in a sense. But then where's
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: the rest of the thing's body.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: Well, I think the idea is that it's like it's
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: neck is going down into the water.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: And oh, oh my gosh. I mean I did zoom
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: into the photo and it was incredibly alarming. I could
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: hardly look at it. It was a bit much for me.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: I think that photo is complete bullshit because to me,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: those two individuals who took the photo, they're like twenty
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: feet away from it in the middle of the lake,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: right yeah, and they're like the only capture one photo,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: and then they just took off like fuck off.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: And that's why I think that this thing, they would
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: have been able to see some more of the bottom. Yeah.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Well, the claim was that they were sitting there in
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: the lake, they saw this thing, they took a photo.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: It wasn't moving, it looked like it was sleeping, so
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: they left because they thought it would be dangerous.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Well, I would probably fuck off. Would you really want
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: to investigate that?
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: If it's the fucking og pogo, I'm getting right up
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: to it. I'm gonna be poking it with a fucking
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: fishing net fishing pole.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: Would you be going the water?
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: No? No, I would be like ready to drive away
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: in the boat, and I would be like getting close,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: I'd be filming, I'd be getting all the evidence. I
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: could not just one si I photograph.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: It does seem interesting.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: The one single photograph makes me say, no, that's not
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: real because you had an opportunity to get so much
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: and you only took one photograph.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Because nowadays, I mean, it's so easy just to take
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: a million photos or a video on your phone.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: I think it was like a piece of wood or
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: something floating in the water and they're like, hey, what
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: is that and took a picture and just happened to
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: catch an angle where it looks odd like it could
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: be the yoga pogo, And then they released it and
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: be like, yeah, we saw the yoga pogo, and they're
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: completely bullshitting. That's my thought, so fuck them. I think
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: it's false.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know, but yeah, other than that,
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: off the top of my head, I don't feel like
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: I can really think of any other urban legends.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Well, I do want to kind of point with this
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Alice killings and just like this photo, isn't it bizarre
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: how something can go viral like this without any concrete evidence?
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: And our imaginations can take us and we'll just fucking
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: believe it. Like we'll just believe it. Like I said,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: these individuals one photograph and it hit like nationwide news.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah it was. It was all over into the.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: News because it it looks odd. Yeah, that's it, like.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: What I know.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: But I also feel like with today's technology, someone should
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: have been able to zoom in enough or figure it out.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Well, there is a theory someone had that it might
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: be like a bird underwater or something like that. I
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: don't know. Again, I also will call bullshit because they
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: would have known that the bird would be swimming, would
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: have disappeared, would have popped up.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I have no idea. I love swimming in
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: that lake.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: It's a nice light.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: But yeah, the fact that these things can go so
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: viral catch your imagination without an ounce or shred of
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: any sort of evidence blows my mind, and people will
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: just believe it and they will wholeheartedly go into it
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: and accept it as fact. Yep. It's crazy.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like crazy, well, especially too the amount of details
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: and stuff like, especially in this case that you had
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: that it just does seem believable. I mean, if you
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: were just like yeah, there's like this these five murders
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: and like this calling card and stuff like I'd probably
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: believe you. But it's like the more details, the more believable,
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: right too, But it doesn't take much to create demails else, No,
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: it doesn't.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Like there's a story of Simon Jansen, whereas I think
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: it was somewhere in the Eastern States. He was off
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: on a carnival with a bunch of friends after a
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: high school like dance thing. It was in the evening.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: They ditched the dance and went off to this carnival.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: There was three friends they went off. I think they
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: were going to the carnival. It was on the way
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: there they ended up getting hit by a vehicle and
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: it was a hit and run. Two of the guys died,
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: but the one kid was able to actually identify the vehicle.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: He remembered three of license plate numbers. I made all
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: this up on the fly. None of that happened, Yeah,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: and I just listed some details.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, people are good storytellers nowadays too, right, right,
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: But like that.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Just shows all you need is to just write a story.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that you were doing it. You were
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: going to just you're creating it. Not creating another urban legend,
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: but like just recounting one, Well, it.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Just made up. I was just making it up, and
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: that's all it takes. So when you guys are looking
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: at tails, when you are listening to stories, question these things.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: That's part of what we do here with a lot
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: of the research is really trying to define the truth.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because there is even with real life cases and
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: cases that happened, there's a lot of misinformation out there too.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's easy to get misinformation. I'm not saying
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: that we're perfect either, Oh.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: No, I'm sure we've mess some things up definitely.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: So Yeah, anyways, I just want to have the little
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: urban legend chat at the end there.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: M hm.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: So let us know if you guys have a favorite
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: urban legend, what you think of this, if you think
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: these alice killings could potentially be true, because like I said,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: there's not a shred of evidence to say it is
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: unless you connect it to the one in Spain.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Hmm, that's crazy. Wow, you just blew our minds. Thanks
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: for that.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, I want to have a little bit of
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: fun with that one, so, oh my gosh. Yeah, don't
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: forget about a little pumpkin carving contest. Yeah, we got
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: that over on Instagram. I want to give them the
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: breakdown on it real quick on what they have to
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: do again.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's honestly super simple and it's probably something you're
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: already doing. So any pumpkin that you've carved, snap a
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: foe it, put it on your story tag us, and
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: you're entered into a draw to win a jackal blanket,
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: which is pretty dang cool.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can snuggle up with it and give it
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: to your dog, take a camping, put it on your bed,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: you couch for those movie nights when you're watching those
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: epic horror movies. Perfect.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's awesome. And we'll also post about this too,
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: because yeah we're gonna do the draw. We're all going
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: live on Halloween night and yeah, we'll do the draw at.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: That time exactly. Until then, we've got a lot of
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: socials on our description. You can go ahead check all
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  Speaker 2: those out Instagram, so you can go join that contest Facebook,
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  Speaker 2: we got a website, YouTube, you name it. It's all
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  Speaker 2: down below. And also we do ask that you go
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  Speaker 2: ahead and give our podcast a rating if you have
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  Speaker 2: the time and if you so feel so that you
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  Speaker 2: want to do that, you'd appreciate.
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  Speaker 3: It, Yeah, we absolutely would.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the episode. We'll see it tomorrow when it's
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  Speaker 2: officially Halloween. Wow.
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  Speaker 3: I can't believe it's already here.
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  Speaker 2: Right, So until then, stay Wicked.
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  Speaker 1: Four