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10/15/26 | So Many Options for the Golden Turkey Award, Bill Walsh Joins · The Jon Justice Show: Presented by Center of the American Experiment

0:29
SPEAKER_04: So uh Ilhan Omar watch continues.
0:33
SPEAKER_04: It's a John Justice show presented by American Experiment.
0:38
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, she still has not been seen.
0:42
SPEAKER_04: The last time we heard from Ilhan Omar was when she dropped her text telling everybody, hey, I'm fine and I won't be silenced.
0:50
SPEAKER_04: And then she went silent.
0:53
SPEAKER_04: And there were new developments overnight, including uh the federal government apparently having her uh cell phone.
1:00
SPEAKER_04: Probably not a good thing.
1:04
SPEAKER_04: Thinking about when you have federal investigators come and raid your home and take items, having your cell phone taken.
1:12
SPEAKER_04: Probably not a great sign for what may happen in the near future.
1:20
SPEAKER_04: Because I do believe that there will be charges coming prior to election day.
1:26
SPEAKER_04: So uh let's go ahead and make it official.
1:28
SPEAKER_04: And I love your show.
1:29
SPEAKER_04: Thanks, Trump.
1:30
SPEAKER_04: It is the John Justice show.
1:32
SPEAKER_04: It is presented by American Experiment, where we do the show from the American Experiment uh studios.
1:37
SPEAKER_04: Uh, Bill Walsh from Center of the American Experiment should be joining us uh towards the end of the show to talk a little bit more about the Golden Turkey and the fact that nominations are being taken now at American Experiment.org.
1:53
SPEAKER_04: We need four bird-brained examples of waste in the Minnesota government.
1:59
SPEAKER_04: Previous winners, Minnesota Department of Education,$250 million free food fraud.
2:04
SPEAKER_04: We'll talk about that a little bit relating to Ilhan Omar later on in the show.
2:08
SPEAKER_04: We had the 6 million MT Newport Transit Station.
2:12
SPEAKER_04: That goes back to 2021 for crying out loud.
2:14
SPEAKER_04: More recently, Governor uh Dim Walls and his$430,000 legal bill.
2:19
SPEAKER_04: As I've mentioned, we're waiting to find out how much it cost uh you and me for the last time that Walls went and had to go and testify.
2:28
SPEAKER_04: Uh so the year prior to that, 2024, it was the uh millions wasted on the new state flag and seal.
2:34
SPEAKER_04: So uh we'll announce the finalists coming up at the beginning of uh November.
2:39
SPEAKER_04: And then the winner will be announced right around uh Thanksgiving.
2:41
SPEAKER_04: So hopefully we can talk about that with Bill Walshman.
2:43
SPEAKER_04: He joins us a little bit uh later on in the show.
2:45
SPEAKER_04: We'll give you an update on the Riley Gaines event, a turning point USA put on in uh downtown Minneapolis last night.
2:54
SPEAKER_04: And uh the fact that the one media outlet that covered the event uh didn't cover why Riley Gaines was there, what she specifically was speaking on.
3:05
SPEAKER_04: No, it was just about the protesting.
3:07
SPEAKER_04: And then nobody else covered it, so that doesn't shock me at all.
3:10
SPEAKER_04: But speaking of headlines, I was curious because, you know, as I said, I woke up this morning after getting a uh fantastic night's sleep, a courtesy of the uh Mini Leaf uh night gummies, of which we had a friend of the show that actually dropped us a blast earlier this morning talking about his enjoyment, success, relief from the fantastic products at Mini Leaf.
3:33
SPEAKER_04: So we'll share that with you coming up.
3:34
SPEAKER_04: I do want to let you know that um the Star Tribune is completely ignoring what's going on with Ilhan Omar based off the headlines.
3:42
SPEAKER_04: I'll share that with you in uh in just a moment.
3:44
SPEAKER_04: Remember, uh, just like uh Brandon, who left us a comment already, you can leave us a voice or text message at any point throughout the show, 651-964-0294.
3:54
SPEAKER_04: You can email me, John.justice at AmericanExperiment.org.
3:57
SPEAKER_04: Devin is producing the show this morning, and Devin will be in here tomorrow as well.
4:01
SPEAKER_04: Very excited here on a Freedom Friday.
4:04
SPEAKER_04: Uh so we have a full house, but Catherine Johnson's gonna be outnumbered.
4:08
SPEAKER_04: So Catherine Johnson here from American Experiment, and then also Isaac, who produces the Freedom Friday show.
4:15
SPEAKER_04: He's actually going to be sitting in one of the comfy chairs tomorrow as one of our Freedom Friday guests, and then A.K.
4:20
SPEAKER_04: Kamara and Max Reimer uh joining us in studio.
4:22
SPEAKER_04: So it should be a fun one.
4:24
SPEAKER_04: Especially since Catherine's gonna be outnumbered.
4:26
SPEAKER_04: She could hold her own, though.
4:28
SPEAKER_04: She'll be just she'll be just the look on Devin's face right now, she will be absolutely just fine.
4:34
SPEAKER_04: So, but we have a lot of ground to cover in today's show.
4:37
SPEAKER_04: So, what did the Star Tribune uh talk about?
4:40
SPEAKER_04: So, at the time of my hopping online to do my morning prep, as I typically do, I went over to what is still the largest publication here in Minnesota.
4:50
SPEAKER_04: Even uh despite the dwindling uh readership uh of this bastion of liberalism, uh the lead story is could AI spell doom for humans?
5:04
SPEAKER_04: Pole finds that Minnesotans are worried.
5:08
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
5:09
SPEAKER_04: Listen, it's an I I love talking artificial intelligence.
5:12
SPEAKER_04: We'll do that again with David Gartenstein Ross next week with everything that's going on right now, including the new details regarding the investigation into Ilhan Omar.
5:21
SPEAKER_04: I'm not sure that the AI story is worthy of being the headline story in the Star Tribune with everything else that we're dealing with.
5:27
SPEAKER_04: They didn't even cover the Riley Gaines event or Ilhan Omar.
5:32
SPEAKER_04: I couldn't find it anywhere, even under the politics page at the Minnesota Star Tribune.
5:40
SPEAKER_04: So the subheadline under the AI story was uh the prospect of artificial intelligence escaping human control alarms Minnesotans across party lines, though what governments should do about it is less clear.
5:53
SPEAKER_04: Has anybody done a study yet to find out where Minnesota ranks among uh people concerned about the future on varying levels?
6:02
SPEAKER_04: And I'm not even taking a left or right view on this.
6:05
SPEAKER_04: I think it's both sides.
6:06
SPEAKER_04: You've got all of the propaganda out there putting Trump on the ballot this election cycle.
6:12
SPEAKER_04: You have all of the deflection going on because of the Somali gang warfare taking place on the streets, the fraud that continues here in the state, and people pointing fingers, and so both sides have their fair share of concerns about the future.
6:29
SPEAKER_04: I'm just wondering how we stack up with the uh with the with the rest of the country.
6:34
SPEAKER_04: Got a comment that already um rolled into the blaster line.
6:39
SPEAKER_04: Friend of the show, uh Don writes, Star Tribune probably polled people about their favorite ice cream.
6:46
SPEAKER_04: Interesting poll.
6:47
SPEAKER_04: I'm trying to I don't even know what my favorite ice cream would be.
6:50
SPEAKER_04: I like mint chocolate chip.
6:52
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
6:52
SPEAKER_04: Devin, you got a favorite ice cream?
6:54
SPEAKER_10: I do not.
6:55
SPEAKER_10: I actually despise ice cream.
6:57
SPEAKER_04: You despise ice cream?
6:58
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
6:58
SPEAKER_04: Is it a texture thing?
7:01
SPEAKER_04: What is it about it?
7:02
SPEAKER_04: Maybe that's why you're so felt.
7:03
SPEAKER_10: I think uh when I was young, I had very sensitive teeth.
7:07
SPEAKER_10: So it always hurt to eat it.
7:10
SPEAKER_10: I think I'm over it, but I just never got into it.
7:12
SPEAKER_10: Not into it, huh?
7:13
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, probably let's you know it's a good thing.
7:14
SPEAKER_04: Probably a healthy, uh, uh, a healthy aversion uh is and and also, like I mentioned, you're a very you're a very fit young man.
7:22
SPEAKER_04: So, you know, I would st I would stick with that.
7:23
SPEAKER_04: Do other cold items hurt your teeth as well, or is it just do you remember?
7:27
SPEAKER_04: Was it is there anything else?
7:28
SPEAKER_04: Do you not use ice in your drinks?
7:30
SPEAKER_04: Uh now I do.
7:32
SPEAKER_04: When I was a kid, I probably didn't.
7:33
SPEAKER_04: Okay, gotcha.
7:34
SPEAKER_04: All right.
7:34
SPEAKER_04: Uh thank you for the little diversion there.
7:36
SPEAKER_04: Uh somebody else wrote in.
7:37
SPEAKER_04: I really love the Somali song.
7:38
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, me too.
7:40
SPEAKER_04: Me too.
7:40
SPEAKER_04: I had an idea for uh I'm working on an Ilhan Omar one, but I haven't uh I haven't quite uh I've been too busy working through all the notes uh this morning, so I haven't had a chance to go and uh and uh write that one up.
7:51
SPEAKER_04: Maybe I will spend some time on it uh this uh this weekend.
7:56
SPEAKER_26: Good morning, John.
7:58
SPEAKER_26: I've been jamming top meow and Waymo's a no go yesterday.
8:07
SPEAKER_26: I got out of my truck and computer following and I left the radio up kind of loud and they come up in my playlist when I got back to my truck.
8:20
SPEAKER_26: The driver next to me hollered John Justice and gave a thumbs up.
8:28
SPEAKER_26: Your songs are great, brother.
8:30
SPEAKER_26: Thank you.
8:32
SPEAKER_04: That's awesome.
8:34
SPEAKER_04: That's an awesome story.
8:35
SPEAKER_04: You know what?
8:35
SPEAKER_04: I'll go ahead and share this.
8:36
SPEAKER_04: Um, we're gonna get into the latest with Ilhan Omar.
8:39
SPEAKER_04: The feds have subpoenaed Ilhan Omar's family, seized her phone in a raid.
8:44
SPEAKER_04: Lots of audio to share this morning.
8:46
SPEAKER_04: And uh the question of whether or not I posed this yesterday, I did a prediction, and I encourage people to go and uh and bookmark it, that uh my prediction is that uh once we see, because I think it's inevitable, and I'll give you my rationale coming up later on in the show.
9:05
SPEAKER_04: I think it's inevitable that Ilhan Omar gets indicted on something.
9:08
SPEAKER_04: She is still missing.
9:10
SPEAKER_04: There were reports yesterday by a couple of conservative outlets, nothing has been substantiated at all, but those reports were saying that um she has fled to Morocco.
9:21
SPEAKER_04: Again, I don't put any level of credibility.
9:24
SPEAKER_04: I reshared it, but reshare uh resharing items are not endorsements by any stretch.
9:28
SPEAKER_04: I just did the shocked eyes emoji.
9:30
SPEAKER_04: I like that emoji.
9:31
SPEAKER_04: I like that emoji.
9:32
SPEAKER_04: I like the eye-rolling one, I like the inquisitive one.
9:36
SPEAKER_04: I love the face palm one.
9:37
SPEAKER_04: It's probably one of my favorite ones.
9:38
SPEAKER_04: So I don't know if there's any validity to it.
9:39
SPEAKER_04: I do know she still hasn't been seen.
9:41
SPEAKER_04: Tim Manette has.
9:42
SPEAKER_04: He was interviewed and just made a quick comment about how she immigrated here when she was 12 and that was it while they were walking, while he was walking a dog.
9:50
SPEAKER_04: But we still haven't seen uh Ilhan uh Ilhan uh Omar.
9:55
SPEAKER_04: So um, as Ilhan Omar watch uh continues.
9:58
SPEAKER_04: Uh let me get to this though, and we'll get into the details of this.
10:02
SPEAKER_04: And my prediction is that I need to get back to that, I guess.
10:04
SPEAKER_04: My prediction is that once the indictment comes out, you're gonna see Democrats go jump ship from Ilhan Omar based on whatever the indictment entails, whatever alleged crime is being brought forward.
10:18
SPEAKER_04: And then they'll try to go and take credit saying that, well, this started in the Biden administration, so you can credit Democrats for handling the situation and investigating a sitting member of Congress who was breaking the law.
10:28
SPEAKER_04: That's my prediction.
10:29
SPEAKER_04: So we'll see if it bears out.
10:31
SPEAKER_04: I got this email from a friend of the show, much in the same way of the uh the blaster audio we just received.
10:37
SPEAKER_04: Uh Jeff writes, I had to relay my experience we had during our trip.
10:41
SPEAKER_04: Uh, the hurricane forced an evacuation from our condos in Orange Beach, Alabama.
10:46
SPEAKER_04: We had to leave late Thursday evening.
10:47
SPEAKER_04: We spent the first night in Jackson, Mississippi, the second night in Mount Pleasant, Iowa, leaving the hotel on Saturday morning.
10:53
SPEAKER_04: We got on the highway and continued heading north.
10:56
SPEAKER_04: A few miles later, I noticed a Mercedes G-Wagging hanging with us.
11:00
SPEAKER_04: And then what he goes and describes is and if you've been on road trips, you've probably had this experience, where you just end up around the same vehicles throughout the course of your journeys, right?
11:11
SPEAKER_04: It happens all the time.
11:12
SPEAKER_04: It happened with um with my son and uh and me on our America 250 road trip uh before we launched the new show here at American Experiment.
11:22
SPEAKER_04: Uh, they talk about pulling over to a quick trip and how this Mercedes G-Wagon also pulled up next to them.
11:30
SPEAKER_04: Over the next 20 minutes, my gal and I talked with the driver, uh Mark and Abby, who were from St.
11:37
SPEAKER_04: Louis.
11:37
SPEAKER_04: Mark was actually from Coon Rapids.
11:39
SPEAKER_04: He moved to St.
11:40
SPEAKER_04: Louis where uh he met, in his words, the most conservative woman in Missouri.
11:44
SPEAKER_04: We talked about the similarities of George Floyd, the and uh and Michael uh hands up, don't shoot Brown.
11:52
SPEAKER_04: He complained about Mayor Fry and Ilhan.
11:55
SPEAKER_04: He knew about the Somali gangs, and he says, Have you guys seen the fall of Minneapolis?
11:59
SPEAKER_04: We both said yes.
12:00
SPEAKER_04: Praise the work of Liz Collin.
12:02
SPEAKER_04: He says uh she was on Fox the other night with another guy.
12:05
SPEAKER_04: Now, because uh you mentioned it on your show Wednesday or Thursday last week when you spoke of it, I whipped off my hat and pointed to the John Justice logo on the crown and said it was this guy, John Justice.
12:17
SPEAKER_04: I listen to him every day.
12:19
SPEAKER_04: He then went on to give uh a little synopsis of your show.
12:22
SPEAKER_04: Uh I then went on to give a little synopsis of your show and mentioned that you are really the lone uh voice that we can listen to daily in the state.
12:30
SPEAKER_04: He mentioned uh the show's name a few times so he would remember.
12:33
SPEAKER_04: I think you may have a new listener.
12:35
SPEAKER_04: Such a crazy coincidence.
12:36
SPEAKER_04: So thank you for that.
12:38
SPEAKER_04: It's a nice little story from Jeff.
12:40
SPEAKER_04: I appreciate it.
12:41
SPEAKER_04: All right, 651-964-0294.
12:46
SPEAKER_04: That is the number for the blaster line.
12:47
SPEAKER_04: We will get to the latest uh subpoena for the Ilhan Omar family.
12:52
SPEAKER_04: Omar's phone being seized in the raid and what all this means.
12:56
SPEAKER_04: Like I mentioned, we have a ton of uh audio to share.
12:59
SPEAKER_04: So we'll dive into that next and we'll get to more of your thoughts on the blaster line coming up here on the John Justice show, presented by American Experiments.
13:06
SPEAKER_04: Speaking of the blaster line, let's go here.
13:08
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13:10
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13:12
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13:18
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13:23
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13:33
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13:40
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13:41
SPEAKER_11: Just wanted to let you and everyone on the show know.
13:44
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13:45
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13:46
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13:49
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14:02
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14:03
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14:08
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14:12
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14:18
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14:24
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14:37
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14:42
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14:50
SPEAKER_34: Our superintendent is not contractually responsible for student proficiency.
14:54
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15:04
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15:12
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15:22
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15:35
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15:40
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15:45
SPEAKER_06: Good morning, John.
15:46
SPEAKER_06: But not Devin.
15:48
SPEAKER_06: I hate to tell you, John, but there might be something wrong with Devin, so you better keep an eye on him.
15:52
SPEAKER_06: Not liking ice cream?
15:54
SPEAKER_06: Seriously?
15:55
SPEAKER_06: That is the one thing that I just have to like.
15:58
SPEAKER_06: I have to fight not to eat it.
16:00
SPEAKER_06: I wish I had your willpower.
16:02
SPEAKER_06: Have a great day.
16:02
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, Devin, why are you such a weirdo?
16:04
SPEAKER_10: If I had a nickel for every time I heard that in my life, I'd be so rich.
16:09
SPEAKER_04: You're not the only one though.
16:10
SPEAKER_04: There was uh it was Corey Cove over at uh KFAN.
16:14
SPEAKER_04: He doesn't like pizza, right?
16:15
SPEAKER_04: I think so.
16:16
SPEAKER_04: Isn't that the big isn't that the big the big thing?
16:18
SPEAKER_04: I just get that I cannot relate to in any way, shape, or form.
16:22
SPEAKER_04: It's like, what?
16:24
SPEAKER_04: Are you are you kidding me?
16:25
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, pizza's great.
16:26
SPEAKER_04: Pizza's my favorite.
16:28
SPEAKER_04: It's my favorite on the on the planet.
16:29
SPEAKER_04: Like if I was gonna default to any meal.
16:31
SPEAKER_04: I've made the argument that when it comes to when it comes to Thanksgiving, I'd rather have like a really, really good specialty pizza than all of the trimming and the fixings that you uh typically go and uh and get on uh on Thanksgiving.
16:44
SPEAKER_04: But I say that and then Melinda makes a fantastic meal and I go, okay, this is really good, actually.
16:50
SPEAKER_05: Hey, good morning, John.
16:51
SPEAKER_05: I live in her district.
16:53
SPEAKER_05: I really hope this means we can get rid of her.
16:56
SPEAKER_05: I want her gone.
16:59
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we'll see.
17:00
SPEAKER_04: Uh, she may already be gone, as far as I know.
17:02
SPEAKER_04: She has yet to be seen since this uh whole uh investigation started, and we'll break it all down because apparently there's two separate investigations that are going on right now.
17:12
SPEAKER_04: I am honestly surprised at how quickly things are moving with this.
17:16
SPEAKER_04: I kind of expected that we would get the raid.
17:20
SPEAKER_04: The raid took place on Monday.
17:22
SPEAKER_04: We got the preliminary information, and I kind of figured that, well, without the affidavit and what the DC judge signed off on, it's gonna be tough to extrapolate further.
17:34
SPEAKER_04: And yet every single day there seems to be new official developments taking place, and so it further reinforces my belief that an indictment is coming sooner than later.
17:46
SPEAKER_04: Federal agents did seize Omar's phone, issued those subpoenas to her family as part of the investigation into alleged immigration fraud.
17:54
SPEAKER_04: One thing that we'll do next hour, just after 7 o'clock, is we'll break down.
17:57
SPEAKER_04: I think there's five different specific things that the federal government could be looking into, and they're all pretty egregious.
18:08
SPEAKER_04: The investigation includes Omar, uh Omar's father's immigration documents, her own citizenship, uh, and potential financial disclosures.
18:17
SPEAKER_04: Omar is accused.
18:18
SPEAKER_04: Uh Omar accused Trump uh and his administration of political persecution.
18:22
SPEAKER_04: Trump mocked her Somali roots and suggested the investigation aims to uh deport her.
18:28
SPEAKER_04: Let me get you up to speed.
18:29
SPEAKER_04: Uh, this is coverage from Fox News uh yesterday uh regarding the uh the latest details in the investigation into uh Ilhan Omar.
18:41
SPEAKER_42: Breck, good evening to you.
18:42
SPEAKER_42: Tonight we have some new information on these dual probes, these dual federal probes into the Democratic Congresswoman Ilhan Omar from Minnesota.
18:49
SPEAKER_42: First, we've just learned that her cell phone was seized as part of this immigration-related investigation.
18:55
SPEAKER_42: More than a dozen family members also, as you mentioned, received subpoenas, which is part of this immigration probe that played out very publicly, Brett, on Monday during that raid of her Washington, D.C.
19:06
SPEAKER_42: home.
19:06
SPEAKER_42: Homeland Security agents and DOJ investigators are looking at whether Ilhan Omar's declared age on applications to come to the United States and later to become a U.S.
19:15
SPEAKER_42: citizen are inaccurate.
19:18
SPEAKER_42: She came to the United States in 1995 and became a citizen five years later in 2000.
19:23
SPEAKER_42: Authorities are looking at potential immigration fraud over a period of years, and they're specifically looking at paperwork connected to her father's application, which ultimately helped get her into the United States.
19:35
SPEAKER_42: Separately, there's another federal investigation involving Omar and her past financial disclosures.
19:40
SPEAKER_42: One of her disclosure forms originally listed her assets, including her husband's assets, up to$30 million.
19:47
SPEAKER_42: That was later amended to just under$100,000.
19:50
SPEAKER_42: So it's unclear if that's the heart of the investigation.
19:53
SPEAKER_42: Her team blamed a paperwork error.
19:56
SPEAKER_42: Omar's allies point to a long-standing DOJ practice to avoid any raids or indictments of candidates on a ballot within 60 days of a federal election.
20:05
SPEAKER_42: We're three weeks out now.
20:06
SPEAKER_42: Vice President J.D.
20:07
SPEAKER_42: Vance says he and President Trump, quote, largely try to stay out of Department of Justice investigations and prosecutions, end quote.
20:15
SPEAKER_47: We try to let the law follow the facts rather than creating facts just to prosecute people we don't like.
20:20
SPEAKER_47: I do know that there are some serious allegations against Ilan Omar.
20:23
SPEAKER_47: We're going to look into those.
20:24
SPEAKER_47: And again, if there's a real case there, we're going to follow the facts.
20:27
SPEAKER_47: If there's not a real case there, then we won't.
20:30
SPEAKER_42: And we've reached out a few times, but no comment from the Justice Department or Omar's office on the latest revelation.
20:37
SPEAKER_04: So many people are pronouncing her first name wrong, by the way.
20:42
SPEAKER_04: I was listening to a podcast yesterday, and uh uh Elon, I heard that that that individual kept saying Elon, I think, is what it was instead of Ilhan.
20:52
SPEAKER_04: It's listen, I'm the last person that should ever go and complain about somebody mispronouncing something by any stretch.
20:59
SPEAKER_04: I had somebody that left a text saying that if it was a quick trip in Iowa, then it was a quick star.
21:06
SPEAKER_04: And I'm like, okay.
21:08
SPEAKER_04: Thank you for the clarification.
21:10
SPEAKER_04: Uh this comment rolled in.
21:11
SPEAKER_04: How could she travel without a passport that was seized?
21:13
SPEAKER_04: Was her passport seized?
21:15
SPEAKER_04: I heard her phone was seized.
21:16
SPEAKER_04: I did not hear um that her passport was seized.
21:21
SPEAKER_04: Uh let's say she's found guilty and resigns.
21:24
SPEAKER_04: What happens then?
21:24
SPEAKER_04: Do the Democrats get to appoint somebody to replace her?
21:27
SPEAKER_04: Or does she remain on the uh on the ballot?
21:30
SPEAKER_04: That given the timeline and how short a period of time there is between now and election day, I mean, there'd have to be a lot that happens for that to happen.
21:41
SPEAKER_04: Um I believe she would remain on the ballot, but it has to go through Congress.
21:46
SPEAKER_04: Congress would have to go and remove her from office.
21:48
SPEAKER_04: Now, if she resigned, that's a different ball game.
21:50
SPEAKER_04: I'm assuming that she would still be on the ballot because it would just be there would be um too short a period of time to get her removed uh from the uh from the The ballot.
22:00
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22:04
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22:12
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22:33
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22:39
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22:44
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22:48
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22:53
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22:54
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23:05
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23:07
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23:09
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23:10
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23:14
SPEAKER_04: So thank you for that.
23:15
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23:19
SPEAKER_02: All right, uh let's go uh to here.
23:24
SPEAKER_27: All this uh Elon Omar stuff.
23:26
SPEAKER_21: Uh-huh.
23:27
SPEAKER_21: Can't help me but what to say.
23:30
SPEAKER_21: Time's up, times up, times up.
23:33
SPEAKER_21: Reference to uh always study in Philadelphia.
23:36
SPEAKER_21: Have a great day.
23:37
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I'm on the last season of Seinfeld right now, um doing my prep because I always pick some sort of series that I'm very familiar with to put on the background when I'm doing my work in the afternoon.
23:46
SPEAKER_04: So I've just about wrapped up my rewatch of Seinfeld, which went by like really, really fast.
23:51
SPEAKER_04: I think it's because I'm doing a lot of prep because there's been so much going on here in the state.
23:56
SPEAKER_04: Always sunny in Philadelphia.
23:57
SPEAKER_04: I mean, I have to put that on in the background.
23:59
SPEAKER_04: Although I'm not as familiar with it, so it probably would slow my prep down.
24:02
SPEAKER_04: Homeland Security investigation agents conducted the raid.
24:06
SPEAKER_04: Part of the investigation includes immigration documents completed by Omar's late father when she was a child.
24:11
SPEAKER_04: The Daily Wire previously reported the U.S.
24:14
SPEAKER_04: attorney for District Columbia, Janine Piro, said earlier this week that there were several investigations going on, including into Omar's financial disclosures.
24:22
SPEAKER_04: We'll get into more of that here in a moment.
24:24
SPEAKER_04: Following the search, uh, Omar, the far-left member of the squad, according to the article from the Daily Wire, accused the Trump administration of weaponizing the federal government uh for uh to pursue political prosecution.
24:36
SPEAKER_04: She's still, of course, missing in all of this, and they're accusing Trump of that because that's what the left does.
24:41
SPEAKER_04: So they just assume that Trump is doing what they always do.
24:44
SPEAKER_04: When in reality, Trump may not even be aware that this uh investigation and raid was going to take place.
24:51
SPEAKER_04: This could have been completely independent.
24:52
SPEAKER_04: J.D.
24:52
SPEAKER_04: Vance said as much that he was unaware that the raid was taking place on Monday.
24:57
SPEAKER_04: In an analysis of possible avenues for investigation, Luke Rosiak from Daily Wire outlined the issues involving Omar's late uh father and his immigration history.
25:07
SPEAKER_04: Statute of limitations is up on her marrying her brother, by the way.
25:10
SPEAKER_04: So we'll get into that a little bit later on in the show.
25:12
SPEAKER_04: The allegations that she married her brother.
25:15
SPEAKER_04: Her own statements about obtaining citizenship, her husband's work promising legislation for African clients, her financial disclosures and potential connections between her sister and figures in defeating our future scandal.
25:28
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, the connections are all there.
25:30
SPEAKER_04: I mean, you don't even knew going with the always sunny in Philadelphia meme of Charlie Day and the cork board with the string and all that, you don't even need that when it comes to the close connections that Ilhan Omar has had with individuals who have been convicted of fraud where she held campaign events.
25:46
SPEAKER_04: We chronicled all that on yesterday's show.
25:48
SPEAKER_04: Be sure to check out the podcast if you missed it.
25:50
SPEAKER_04: Her third husband.
25:53
SPEAKER_04: Crazy.
25:54
SPEAKER_04: Three dudes.
25:55
SPEAKER_04: Although one of them one of them's in question, right?
26:03
SPEAKER_04: He dismissed concerns about the ongoing investigation in comments to Fox News.
26:08
SPEAKER_04: This was the exact quote doing that thing with my fingers.
26:10
SPEAKER_04: My wife came here when she was 12 years old as a war child or as a child war refugee.
26:17
SPEAKER_04: No concerns.
26:18
SPEAKER_04: Okay, dude.
26:19
SPEAKER_04: I mean, what else is he gonna say, right?
26:21
SPEAKER_04: President Donald Trump declined Tuesday to endorse calls to deport Omar, despite previously advocating for her removal from the country.
26:29
SPEAKER_04: However, a report from the Wall Street Journal published yesterday did say the ultimate goal of the federal investigation was to strip Omar of her U.S.
26:36
SPEAKER_04: citizenship and deport her.
26:46
SPEAKER_04: Jonathan Turley, uh Fox News analyst, was uh back on Fox News yesterday.
26:51
SPEAKER_04: Here's what a little bit of what he had to say about the ongoing investigation.
26:55
SPEAKER_45: We have more information on the immigration side, uh, which has been a longstanding controversy with regard to Representative Omar.
27:03
SPEAKER_45: And indeed, this investigation began under the Biden administration.
27:09
SPEAKER_12: Okay.
27:09
SPEAKER_12: So when you look at this, we've heard about money, we've heard about immigration, now we've got family members involved here that apparently have been subpoenaed.
27:20
SPEAKER_12: Can you tie a thread between this and tell us what you think is important right now?
27:27
SPEAKER_45: Well, I think that we should focus on the immigration uh investigation because that's the one that we know has already r reached the point of an actual search of her residence.
27:36
SPEAKER_45: I think that these family members very likely are related to the immigration side of this.
27:42
SPEAKER_45: The immigration laws are very clear.
27:44
SPEAKER_45: You know, when you when you're accused of illegally procuring citizenship or naturalization, uh y the it is not a defense that I was innocent in all of this.
27:55
SPEAKER_45: The the U.S.
27:55
SPEAKER_45: government's position has always been that if you have information there that is untrue, where you would not have been made a citizen, uh then you can be denaturalized.
28:07
SPEAKER_45: Uh now the standard is very high.
28:09
SPEAKER_45: It it requires clear evidence, unequivocal evidence, but that's evidence of the facts in dispute.
28:16
SPEAKER_45: And so there are a lot of these facts that have been raised in the past.
28:20
SPEAKER_45: Some of them deal with her father, who is reported to have been a colonel in a rather brutal regime, but there were questions as to uh his filings, but then also there's a question as to the stated age of Representative Omar, which allowed her to basically piggyback on the process of her father instead of having to file a separate uh effort or filing for naturalization.
28:46
SPEAKER_04: And let um let Jonathan Turley's comments here serve as a bit of a preview because we're going to be addressing almost one by one every single one of the potential uh allegations against Omar that Jonathan Turley just laid out.
29:02
SPEAKER_04: We'll do that just after seven o'clock this morning because uh some of that needs to be broken down uh even further.
29:10
SPEAKER_04: I do find I mean, there's a couple of things right now that are most interesting for me.
29:13
SPEAKER_04: One, where is Ilhan?
29:15
SPEAKER_04: Okay, that's the that's the first big one.
29:17
SPEAKER_04: Where is she?
29:18
SPEAKER_04: Miss I will not be silenced, and then she goes completely silent.
29:23
SPEAKER_04: I would think that if this was a big sham, as Rashida Talib has said in social media posts, as others have said online, we'll get to this coming up uh later on in the show as well, the editorials being written.
29:38
SPEAKER_04: There's only a handful of individuals that are out there defending Omar.
29:41
SPEAKER_04: That's the other part of this, too.
29:43
SPEAKER_04: But if this was just political persecution and there is no there, then why would she go into hiding?
29:49
SPEAKER_04: Assuming she is in hiding.
29:51
SPEAKER_04: Okay, let's just say let's just say that for the for the for the sake of argument.
29:54
SPEAKER_04: I mean, it it's not, I mean, how what's that?
29:56
SPEAKER_04: How long do you have to wait?
29:57
SPEAKER_04: I'll appeal to you guys.
29:58
SPEAKER_04: How long do you have to how long is it that somebody goes missing in the middle of a controversy to where you begin to sort of label it as hiding?
30:08
SPEAKER_04: You know?
30:08
SPEAKER_04: Is it three days?
30:09
SPEAKER_04: Is it four days?
30:10
SPEAKER_04: Is it five days?
30:10
SPEAKER_04: I mean, Talo Rico was missing for like 12 days.
30:13
SPEAKER_04: So I'm curious.
30:14
SPEAKER_04: So what's your standard?
30:16
SPEAKER_04: Drop us a blast.
30:17
SPEAKER_04: How long until we can officially say, well, yeah, I mean, sort of like a missing persons report.
30:21
SPEAKER_04: Like a law, like law enforcement, it was 24 or 48 hours, I think, right?
30:25
SPEAKER_04: So at what point, at what point can we file a missing persons report for Ilhan Omar now?
30:29
SPEAKER_04: ChatGPT does not know where she is.
30:31
SPEAKER_04: I asked him, I asked Alex this morning, and he said that she still has not made any public uh appearances, so whatsoever, not even at the rally with all of the uh white senior citizens that took place uh earlier this week.
30:42
SPEAKER_04: So, how long until she can officially be declared missing?
30:45
SPEAKER_04: Have we already reached that level?
30:47
SPEAKER_04: Because when I asked ChatGPT of the actual last time that she was seen in public, they didn't know the last time anybody has spoken about seeing her was somebody who had said that they witnessed her driving away in her fancy, schmancy brand new car from her home in D.C.
31:04
SPEAKER_04: right before the raid took place.
31:07
SPEAKER_04: 651-964-0294.
31:10
SPEAKER_04: This comment rolled in: if the Dems win congressional power, will they not just shut down the Ilhan Omar investigation?
31:17
SPEAKER_04: Um, that depends.
31:20
SPEAKER_04: By that point in time, we should know what the allegations are fully if an indictment has not already happened.
31:26
SPEAKER_04: Assuming the Dems win, the polls right now are shifting massively.
31:30
SPEAKER_04: I'm kind of holding off for Freedom Friday to talk about this with our Freedom Friday crew, but if you've been paying attention for what it's worth, I don't put a lot of stock in these polls, except for the fact that it does appear that suddenly now a lot of these polls that were heavily leaning Democrat are beginning to even out as we get closer to the election, which lends credibility to those polls being designed to try to demoralize Republicans by saying that there's going to be this blue wave.
32:02
SPEAKER_04: So we'll talk about this more on the show.
32:04
SPEAKER_04: But to your point, considering that this investigation started under the Biden administration, unless there is a wholesale change within the Department of Justice and the individuals that are currently investigating Ilhan Omar, I I would imagine that this investigation would continue even if Democrats ended up grabbing uh power uh in the upcoming election.
32:27
SPEAKER_04: A lot of this is going to hinge upon what it is that she is uh that she is uh accused of.
32:34
SPEAKER_04: 651-964-0294.
32:38
SPEAKER_04: We'll get to your uh comments here in just a moment.
32:40
SPEAKER_04: Let's shift gears, though.
32:41
SPEAKER_04: Yesterday, uh everybody got a little bit, I even I did too.
32:45
SPEAKER_04: There was an announcement that there was going to be a major fraud announcement taking place at 130 our time yesterday.
32:50
SPEAKER_04: And everyone was like, oh, because just how fast everything's been moving with Ilhan Omar, there was, you know, speculation.
32:56
SPEAKER_04: Like, oh, this is something related to Ilhan Omar.
32:59
SPEAKER_04: No, it wasn't relating to Ilhan Omar.
33:01
SPEAKER_04: It was interesting nonetheless.
33:03
SPEAKER_04: Attorney, uh Assistant Attorney General Colin McDonald, the head of the U.S.
33:07
SPEAKER_04: Department of Justice National Fraud Enforcement Division, announced a major nationwide enforcement push targeting tax and public program fraud.
33:20
SPEAKER_04: So this was the national tax fraud surge.
33:23
SPEAKER_04: The DOJ charges against uh 76 defendants across 45 days involving$490 million in intended tax losses, as detailed by the Department of Justice press release.
33:38
SPEAKER_04: Over 1,000 major fraud enforcement actions have been launched since the creation of the division, and the newly issued policy requires prosecutors to utilize pre-indictment asset seizures and digital infrastructure takedowns to freeze fraudulent operations in real time.
33:54
SPEAKER_04: It's all just a reminder of how much money is just lost because of a complete lack of accountability in politics.
34:05
SPEAKER_04: Like at this point in time, if you if you were somehow able to go and calculate all of the fraud taking place, and I'm also talking about the fraud that hasn't even yet been discovered, I imagine you're looking at something that could go and impact the national debt were we able to go and recoup that money instead of it being, you know, driven around the streets of Minneapolis by Somali gang members.
34:31
SPEAKER_04: Here's a little bit of the commentary during the announcement yesterday from the Assistant Attorney General Colin McConald on Fox News.
34:39
SPEAKER_43: Now, in addition to stealing from taxpayer-funded programs, fraudsters also target taxpayer dollars by criminally siphoning money from the Internal Revenue Service.
34:51
SPEAKER_43: Just last month, GAO estimated that taxpayers lose up to$304 billion every year due to fraud schemes perpetrated against the IRS.
35:04
SPEAKER_43: We are actively combating those tax fraud schemes.
35:08
SPEAKER_43: And today, on the eve of the tax extension filing deadline of October 15th, we are announcing the first ever nationwide tax fraud surge.
35:19
SPEAKER_43: In the past 45 days, the fraud division's tax section and United States Attorney's offices across the country participated in the national tax enforcement surge.
35:29
SPEAKER_43: The surge of nationwide resources resulted in prosecutorial actions against 76 defendants in 45 days, whose alleged and proven crimes totaled an intended loss of over$490 million.
35:46
SPEAKER_43: Those 76 prosecutorial actions in 45 days include new charges against 31 defendants whose alleged schemes targeted approximately$350 million in intended loss to the taxpayer.
36:02
SPEAKER_43: During this surge, we have also achieved two trial victories, dozens of other convictions through guilty pleas, and numerous sentencings of criminal fraudsters.
36:13
SPEAKER_43: The work completed has been a nationwide effort with cases from Alaska to Maine to Florida to Minnesota and many states in between.
36:23
SPEAKER_04: Again, that was the Assistant Attorney General yesterday announcing this new tax fraud, a task force.
36:31
SPEAKER_04: They're calling it a surge.
36:32
SPEAKER_04: They're trolling.
36:33
SPEAKER_04: They're so trolling.
36:35
SPEAKER_04: I love every minute of it.
36:36
SPEAKER_04: Don't misunderstand.
36:37
SPEAKER_04: But the fact that they're using the terminology surge and how that's become such a hot button.
36:41
SPEAKER_04: We have news again this morning as the leftists in Minnesota continue to try to keep Operation Metro Surge top of mind.
36:48
SPEAKER_04: As a matter of fact, it ended up.
36:53
SPEAKER_04: And I'll share this with you later on in the hour.
36:54
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I should get to it this hour.
36:56
SPEAKER_04: There is an editorial in the Minnesota Reformer this morning continuing to deflect from individuals going and pointing specifically to the Somali community on these issues.
37:07
SPEAKER_04: And in that, they end up using Operation Metro Surge as one of the means to go and push back on the heated rhetoric doing that thing with my fingers.
37:16
SPEAKER_04: Back to the Ilhan Omar investigation, uh, right up until I give you the details on how major banks have been discriminating against conservatives.
37:25
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
37:26
SPEAKER_04: This is bad.
37:27
SPEAKER_04: I'll share this with you in just a moment.
37:28
SPEAKER_04: I do want to get to some of your thoughts, though, from the blaster line.
37:31
SPEAKER_22: Good morning, John, and everybody.
37:32
SPEAKER_22: I think this goes a lot deeper than just her birth being changed.
37:39
SPEAKER_22: Um Fox News last night was saying that her father's status is the one that they're looking at as well, because he's potentially being a war criminal, being in the military in Somalia, didn't qualify to be a refugee and enter into this country.
37:58
SPEAKER_04: Right.
37:59
SPEAKER_04: And we're actually gonna uh dive into that further.
38:01
SPEAKER_04: That's one of I think five of the uh different angles that are being examined right now.
38:07
SPEAKER_04: So I'll give you details coming up after uh seven o'clock.
38:10
SPEAKER_04: Thank you for the uh for the comment.
38:11
SPEAKER_29: Hey John, I got a dumb question and uh maybe you can answer it.
38:17
SPEAKER_29: If they've seen her phone, why don't they know where she is?
38:22
SPEAKER_04: Well they might.
38:23
SPEAKER_04: They might.
38:24
SPEAKER_04: I mean, I'm the one myself and others are the ones who are asking where she is right now.
38:28
SPEAKER_04: The federal government isn't asking where she is right now, at least as far as I know, because they don't they don't need her.
38:35
SPEAKER_04: I mean, they they got the warrant from the judge.
38:38
SPEAKER_04: Interesting note on that too, as a bit of a preview.
38:41
SPEAKER_04: The the DC, the Democrat DC judge who donated to Hillary Clinton's campaign, want to point that out again?
38:47
SPEAKER_04: Uh, he actually gave limited scope to what the federal government was wanting to examine.
38:54
SPEAKER_04: But what's interesting to me is the fact that it was limited, but they still allowed them to go so far and seize her cell phone.
39:03
SPEAKER_04: To the issue of the passport, the friend of the show that asked about uh how could she travel without a passport that was seized.
39:12
SPEAKER_04: Okay, first off, we don't know that she's traveled anywhere.
39:15
SPEAKER_04: Okay, that's just a rumor going around, and I know that's what they're alluding to.
39:19
SPEAKER_04: It was some other uh conservative news outlet that I'm unfamiliar with, so I don't know what kind of credibility they have.
39:24
SPEAKER_04: I've seen them pop up online, but I haven't spent any time on their website.
39:27
SPEAKER_04: They were the ones reporting that they said um they had sources within the federal government saying that she had fled the country.
39:34
SPEAKER_04: Uh, that listener who suggested that her um self that her passport was seized uh did offer up the details from the search.
39:43
SPEAKER_04: The warrant, the search warrant authorized federal agents to seize electronic devices such as a phone and laptop, passports and immigration records relating to her and her relatives.
39:53
SPEAKER_04: I will note that just because the uh warrant authorized the seizure of the passport, that has not been reported as being seized.
40:04
SPEAKER_04: So I think that's an important distinction.
40:06
SPEAKER_04: We do know that the cell phone was seized specifically, and I'd have to believe that if the passport was seized, that also would have made news.
40:19
SPEAKER_04: And that's pretty that's a pretty big deal as well.
40:21
SPEAKER_04: Because that would mean she would she would be unable to leave the to leave the country.
40:25
SPEAKER_04: So um just again, trying to trying to work through the different pieces of the puzzle uh of what we know of the situation right now.
40:32
SPEAKER_04: Uh this comment rolled in.
40:33
SPEAKER_04: All right, so now we know you have the uh handouts and with uh or business cards with the show information.
40:39
SPEAKER_04: How do we acquire them as fans of the show?
40:41
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
40:42
SPEAKER_04: You want a business card?
40:43
SPEAKER_04: I mean, I got a whole bunch.
40:46
SPEAKER_04: Come by center the American experiment.
40:47
SPEAKER_04: I'm happy to happy to hand you one.
40:49
SPEAKER_04: I mean, you're listening to the show now, and you know, unless you want me to autograph it, I can do that for you.
40:53
SPEAKER_04: We have those fancy schmancy flyers too.
40:55
SPEAKER_04: You see this one right there, uh, Devin.
40:57
SPEAKER_04: Can you uh can you hand that one to me?
40:58
SPEAKER_04: And it's been stuck over here.
41:00
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we have we have these too.
41:01
SPEAKER_04: It has all the detailed information on how to listen to the show.
41:04
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and there's plenty of room.
41:05
SPEAKER_04: I could write you a little message on here.
41:06
SPEAKER_04: So yeah, I mean, I'm happy to send these to leave these for people to come and pick up if that's something that they want.
41:11
SPEAKER_04: So just saying.
41:13
SPEAKER_04: Thank you for the comment, though.
41:15
SPEAKER_04: 651-964-0294.
41:19
SPEAKER_04: Uh somebody wrote in no one is talking about her having a permanence resident uh in D.C.
41:24
SPEAKER_04: She's a Minnesota represent uh representative.
41:26
SPEAKER_04: Uh, we've discussed that many times in that maybe not in detail here uh on the John Justice show presented by American Experiment.
41:33
SPEAKER_04: We have covered that in the past.
41:34
SPEAKER_04: That's also not out of the norm either for a member of Congress to have a residence in D.C.
41:42
SPEAKER_04: serving as a representative or senator to have dual residences.
41:45
SPEAKER_04: So it's not that controversial in my uh in my view.
41:49
SPEAKER_04: So, all right.
41:50
SPEAKER_04: Uh let's go to uh I want to get to this story.
41:55
SPEAKER_04: Well, we'll double back to Ilhan Omar, but yesterday, uh the nation's nine largest federally regulated banks denied financial services for conservatives, religious organizations, and lawful businesses because their political uh of their political beliefs or activities.
42:17
SPEAKER_04: This is according to a sweeping report released yesterday by the Office of the Compontroller of the Currency.
42:25
SPEAKER_04: This is one of those stories where you see major, in this case, financial institutions putting their full bias on display and inflicting retribution over a difference of political beliefs.
42:38
SPEAKER_04: And it really does raise the question of how much more often is this happening and we're completely not aware of.
42:47
SPEAKER_04: There are circumstances in my own life where I question things that have happened and why they happened and whether or not they were politically motivated, even though I don't have any evidence as such.
42:57
SPEAKER_04: And then I see a story like this and I go, well, if major financial institutions are discriminating against conservatives, then who else is doing that ahead of midterms?
43:10
SPEAKER_04: It all brings about this question of trust.
43:12
SPEAKER_04: Who can you trust anymore?
43:14
SPEAKER_04: When you can't I mean, listen, the bank, the bank that I bank with was on is on this list.
43:19
SPEAKER_04: Which has me wondering if I don't want to go and switch banks now in light of this, even though I've been banking with them since I forever.
43:27
SPEAKER_04: I've never banked with no, that's not true.
43:29
SPEAKER_04: I did bank with another institution once because this particular bank was not located in the state that we moved to.
43:36
SPEAKER_04: Who do you trust anymore?
43:39
SPEAKER_04: When you need home service, you can trust Ericsson Plumbing, Heating Air, and Electrical.
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SPEAKER_16: Good morning.
45:18
SPEAKER_16: There's an idea for the State Fair t-shirt.
45:21
SPEAKER_16: Put your business card on the front of the t-shirt and settle in the GOP stand at the Minnesota State Fair.
45:27
SPEAKER_04: We want to do one that's uh that just has a you know doing that thing with my fingers.
45:32
SPEAKER_04: I caused a little bit of concern with some of the staff here, thinking that people might uh take that the wrong way.
45:37
SPEAKER_04: And I'm like, you know what?
45:38
SPEAKER_04: That's kind of the point.
45:41
SPEAKER_04: So this report by the Comptroller of Currency found that all nine banks accused maintained policies between 2020 and September of 2025 that restricted access to financial services based on political, religious, or social views or lawful business activities.
45:59
SPEAKER_04: Uh, in a world where the news cycle didn't turn over every single hour, it used to be daily.
46:05
SPEAKER_04: There was a time when it used to be weekly.
46:07
SPEAKER_04: This would have been the lead story discussed across all the major news channels about nine major banks JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America, Citibank, Wells Fargo, U.S.
46:17
SPEAKER_04: Bank, Capital One, PNC, TD Bank, and MNO Bank.
46:21
SPEAKER_04: Comptroller Jonathan Gould said in a press release today's report provides irrefutable evidence that the nation's largest banks have denied debanked and discriminating against customers and lawful businesses.
46:37
SPEAKER_04: Among the findings, J.P.
46:39
SPEAKER_04: Morgan Chase's former payment processor, Repay, closed accounts belonging to merchants selling Trump and Make America Great Again merchandise, according to the New York Post.
46:51
SPEAKER_04: The bank screening system flagged phrases, including MAGA, Make America Great and America First.
46:56
SPEAKER_04: You know, I see these videos pop up online where you have these promotions going on.
47:01
SPEAKER_04: I think Coca-Cola was one of the more recent ones where you could get labels on cans made with whatever you wanted and they would allow Satan, but they wouldn't allow like Jesus Christ.
47:11
SPEAKER_04: And, you know, I try to be rational when I see these stories and go, man, is some would somebody really go and take the time to plug in certain words to keep them from being posted on there?
47:22
SPEAKER_04: I just, is it not?
47:23
SPEAKER_04: And then I see stories like this and I go, John, stop being naive.
47:27
SPEAKER_04: I have too much faith in humanity.
47:29
SPEAKER_04: It's diminishing.
47:30
SPEAKER_04: Don't make no mistake.
47:31
SPEAKER_04: Especially if you've been listening to me for any length of time, it's changed.
47:34
SPEAKER_04: I used to hate the slippery slope.
47:36
SPEAKER_04: Now it's to your own detriment if you don't acknowledge the slippery slope in society.
47:42
SPEAKER_04: The bank screening system flagged phrases, including MAGA, Make America Great, America First.
47:47
SPEAKER_04: I just mentioned that.
47:50
SPEAKER_04: WePay also terminated the accounts associated with conservative religious organizations, including one that was labeled by the extremist group, the Southern Poverty Law Center.
48:00
SPEAKER_04: PNC denying a line of credit to a media company after employees raised concerns about its conservative owners.
48:08
SPEAKER_04: One employee wrote that the owners publicly expressed opinions very contrary to the PNC beliefs and values.
48:17
SPEAKER_04: Wells Fargo reportedly pressured a payment processor to drop a religious nonprofit because of its position on same-sex marriage.
48:27
SPEAKER_04: The bank also declined loans to firearms businesses amid concerns about potential Biden administration pressure.
48:35
SPEAKER_04: Bank of America restricted relationships with private prison companies, while other banks limited services to businesses involved in oil, gas, coal, and firearms and digital assets.
48:47
SPEAKER_04: Now the report also did identify discrimination affecting liberal organizations, just so we're clear.
48:54
SPEAKER_04: Capital One declined the services to an abortion rights organization and a gun rights group over concerns about appearing to endorse their positions.
49:03
SPEAKER_04: So things like that I can understand.
49:06
SPEAKER_04: Like that I can get.
49:08
SPEAKER_04: When you have, you know, in this case, a major corporation that does not want to give off the perception of being aligned with something politically speaking.
49:18
SPEAKER_04: That seems a little less targeted, even though still discrimination in and of itself, not justifiable by any stretch, but I understand that a little bit better.
49:26
SPEAKER_04: The OCC, the office of the comproller, acknowledged that it could not determine the full extent of the discriminatory banking, uh, debanking, or quantify its financial consequences.
49:39
SPEAKER_04: All nine banks reported revising their policies, but Gould, the spokesperson for the Comptroller's office, warned that those changes may be insufficient.
49:48
SPEAKER_04: Meanwhile, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau announced a separate investigation into whether banks violated federal consumer finance laws.
49:56
SPEAKER_04: Here's what I want.
49:57
SPEAKER_04: This is what I want.
49:58
SPEAKER_04: And this is what I think the public needs to needs to know about this.
50:03
SPEAKER_04: Is I want to know specifically how this happened.
50:08
SPEAKER_04: I want to know specifically how and why and who was at the helm when these particular policies were put in place and the discrimination take took place.
50:24
SPEAKER_04: Because it matters.
50:24
SPEAKER_04: I mean, was this discussed in a boardroom among individuals who collectively agreed to go and take these actions against individuals strictly over religion and politics?
50:36
SPEAKER_04: Or was it the or were these the actions of singular employees who were going and implementing these policies and higher-ups were unaware of it?
50:46
SPEAKER_04: I think that's incredibly relevant.
50:50
SPEAKER_04: I imagine it's probably a bit of a combination of the two.
50:53
SPEAKER_04: That's my guess.
50:54
SPEAKER_04: My guess is it's a combination of both.
50:57
SPEAKER_04: You have broader sweeping discriminatory policies, like the one that I mentioned with Capital Bank not wanting to be aligned with particular either gun rights groups or abortion advocates.
51:09
SPEAKER_04: That's that sounds to me more like a corporate level policy, while it still could be determined to be discriminatory.
51:16
SPEAKER_04: While the other ones, I would imagine and guess that they were individuals who had access to how these particular services were provided and were given the ability of removing them for their own political bias.
51:31
SPEAKER_04: We're seeing the ramifications.
51:33
SPEAKER_04: I have examples of this later on in the show.
51:36
SPEAKER_04: We have a big uh uh education update to uh to get into much later uh in the show.
51:42
SPEAKER_04: But we're seeing the ramifications now of uh a decade, two decades worth of indoctrination within our public school system that has pumped out all of these dutiful leftists who have been weaned on critical race theory, Marxism, anti-American sentiment, you know, all the things that fall under the banner of Ilhan Omar.
52:09
SPEAKER_04: And we'll get into more of that coming up.
52:11
SPEAKER_04: We're now seeing the fallout and ramifications of that.
52:13
SPEAKER_04: We see it on the streets when it comes to the protesting, the on-the-street insurrectionists during Operation Metro Surge, the protests that take place, the individuals that were out protesting, Riley Gaines in Minneapolis uh yesterday.
52:26
SPEAKER_04: But they're also getting into these financial institutions as well, and they're inflicting their own ideologies through the policies of these places that they're working for.
52:37
SPEAKER_04: And I think the public, when it comes to these uh types of stories, deserves to know exactly how and why this is taking place because however are we going to be able to tackle the issue?
52:47
SPEAKER_04: And there's so many parallels with what we're dealing with right now in Minnesota, with all this deflection over mentioning that we have a specific Somali gang problem and that fraud here in Minnesota, while not all Somali immigrants were conducting fraud, at 90% of the fraud that was committed was being committed by members of the Somali community.
53:08
SPEAKER_04: And I have examples later on today of why it is to our detriment to not go and focus on the cultural aspects of this.
53:18
SPEAKER_04: One more item of note on the discriminatory front, and we'll get to some of your comments.
53:23
SPEAKER_04: Former special counsel's probe, Jack Smith, scooped up data on 639,000 Republican voters and supporters.
53:34
SPEAKER_04: So this was Jack Smith's investigation into President Donald Trump.
53:39
SPEAKER_04: Senate Judiciary Committee chairman revealed yesterday that one spreadsheet that Mr.
53:46
SPEAKER_04: Smith obtained you ready for this?
53:48
SPEAKER_04: It focused on people who bought the iconic Red Trump campaign Make America Great Again hats after the 2020 election.
53:56
SPEAKER_04: That's right.
53:57
SPEAKER_04: Jack Smith's investigation ended up compiling information on 639,000 Republican voters and focused on people who bought red Make America Great Again MAGA hats.
54:09
SPEAKER_04: Senator Charles Grassley, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, called the information uh obtained incredibly invasive and said there was no possible valid reason for Mr.
54:22
SPEAKER_04: Smith and for his criminal investigation to have scooped up the information on these Republican voters.
54:31
SPEAKER_04: The new findings further corroborate that Smith and his partisan team aimed to map out the entire Republican Party apparatus.
54:42
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah, but it's Trump that's weaponized the federal government, right?
54:45
SPEAKER_04: Mm-hmm.
54:48
SPEAKER_04: Various spreadsheet uh spreadsheets obtained by Mr.
54:51
SPEAKER_04: Smith contained information on those Republican uh connected individuals.
54:55
SPEAKER_04: Of those, 148,000 were identified in the spreadsheets as donors largely making small dollar contributions.
55:02
SPEAKER_04: So I I want to mention that the Minnesota Reformer has a piece up, I think it's still on their homepage right now, has a piece up right now lamenting how the federal government and ICE agents infiltrated all these anti-ICE organizations.
55:19
SPEAKER_04: These were individuals that were taken to the streets obstructing lawful law enforcement.
55:23
SPEAKER_04: And through their investigation, they ended up getting on the inside of these groups in order to document what they were doing and hopefully curtail their insurrectionist on-the-street activities here in Minnesota.
55:38
SPEAKER_04: Legitimate, completely legitimate, needed to be done.
55:42
SPEAKER_04: But they're lamenting that in the Minnesota reformer, and yet here is your example of the federal government being weaponized against you.
55:50
SPEAKER_04: There's nothing to say that any of these Republican voters had done any crime whatsoever.
55:55
SPEAKER_04: No evidence of that at all.
55:57
SPEAKER_04: This is the perfect example of why individuals, the few that there are, because Democrats are not rushing to Ilhan Omar's defense, but why you have those handful of individuals that are rushing to Ilhan Omar's defense, why they are taking this, oh, it's the weaponization of the federal government.
56:14
SPEAKER_04: It's because that's what they do.
56:15
SPEAKER_04: I've been saying it all week long, and this is your example.
56:20
SPEAKER_04: The data collected uh included names, dates of birth, credit card information.
56:25
SPEAKER_04: Grassley, in a memo detailing his new findings on Wednesday, said Mr.
56:28
SPEAKER_04: Smith's data did not focus just on big-time donors.
56:32
SPEAKER_04: Those who gave as little as a buck were included in the data he collected.
56:39
SPEAKER_04: Innocent people who Jack Smith went looking at to try to find crimes, who hadn't been accused of anything.
56:48
SPEAKER_04: That's what the radical leftists do.
56:51
SPEAKER_04: The Trump administration and the right no, they see the allegations, they find out that they're credible, and then they go and investigate those allegations, and that's what's happening with Ilhan Omar right now.
57:03
SPEAKER_04: Mr.
57:03
SPEAKER_04: Smith also obtained lists of uh Trump campaign personnel, which it which uh potentially included campaign volunteers.
57:11
SPEAKER_04: Grassley released two pages from the spreadsheet detailing the 158 people who bought MAGA hats on November 16th, 2020.
57:21
SPEAKER_04: But when you are when you are trying to go and paint a picture of Trump supporters, especially when you go back to 2020, right?
57:32
SPEAKER_04: As Trump uh supporters, you know, being Nazis, Trump being aligned with with Hitler, and specifically MAGA and a red MAGA hat being akin to a Nazi swastika, which is what the left was trying to do, then they need to go and find something to substantiate that.
57:54
SPEAKER_04: That's what I believe this was all about.
57:56
SPEAKER_04: Looking to individuals who had not been accused of any crimes and trying to find crimes, and then trying to attach those crimes to the fact that these individuals supported Trump, and we have the evidence right now because look, they bought a they bought a MAGA hat.
58:09
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58:10
SPEAKER_28: Former neighbor Mike here in my former manufacturing business in Cornell, Wisconsin.
58:15
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58:19
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58:29
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58:40
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58:42
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SPEAKER_28: Check me out.
58:48
SPEAKER_04: Nicely, nicely done.
58:50
SPEAKER_04: You got that.
58:51
SPEAKER_04: You snuck that in there.
58:56
SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
58:57
SPEAKER_04: All right, let's go ahead and usher in an hour two for a Thursday here on the John Justice Show, presented by American Experience.
59:37
SPEAKER_04: Got a lot of comments that have been uh rolling in.
59:39
SPEAKER_04: I'll take a moment here in a bit and preview uh some of those to share those comments uh with you and those voice messages as well.
59:46
SPEAKER_04: Remember, you can email me john.justice at americanexperiment.org.
59:50
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59:53
SPEAKER_04: That's J-O-N.
59:54
SPEAKER_04: You can see that on the uh coffee mug and on the sign uh over here uh behind me.
59:59
SPEAKER_04: It's also on my business card.
1:00:00
SPEAKER_03: People were very impressed by those earlier.
1:00:04
SPEAKER_03: Very coveted, apparently, my business cards are.
1:00:06
SPEAKER_04: That's good.
1:00:07
SPEAKER_04: I haven't really handed them many out.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_04: So you actually have to go out and do things to hand out business cards.
1:00:11
SPEAKER_04: I realized.
1:00:13
SPEAKER_04: I've had my fair share of going out and doing things.
1:00:18
SPEAKER_04: All right, before we get into the latest uh regarding uh Ilhan Omar and and more specifically, individuals that the few that there are that are rushing to uh to her defense.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_04: Uh yesterday we had on the show three members of Turning Point USA, the younger generation of individuals out there fighting for common sense, rational commentary.
1:00:42
SPEAKER_04: Here to promote Riley Gaines.
1:00:44
SPEAKER_04: So uh Kara Levin had no story on their home uh page regarding uh the U of N uh speech.
1:00:50
SPEAKER_04: KSTP had no story on their homepage regarding the U of M speech.
1:00:54
SPEAKER_04: This was all this morning when I was doing my prep.
1:00:56
SPEAKER_04: It might have changed since then, but this morning when I got online, um Pioneer Press also had no story on their homepage regarding Riley Gaines at the University of Minnesota.
1:01:04
SPEAKER_04: Star Tribune had no story on their homepage regarding Riley Gaines at the University of Minnesota, Oriolon Omar for crying that loud.
1:01:10
SPEAKER_04: This is as if there wasn't even anything going on.
1:01:13
SPEAKER_04: Fox 9 did, though.
1:01:16
SPEAKER_04: Although they wanted to talk more about the protesters than they did Riley Gaines, the headline.
1:01:21
SPEAKER_04: Riley Gaines U of M speech.
1:01:23
SPEAKER_04: Protesters say bigotry isn't welcome.
1:01:25
SPEAKER_04: Supporters dismiss pendulant tantrums.
1:01:30
SPEAKER_04: It's not lost on me that they started with the uh with the bigotry line and then secondarily went with the pushback on it, but maybe that's just normal.
1:01:38
SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
1:01:39
SPEAKER_04: Protesters are opposing what they say is transphobic ideology ahead of a speech from conservative activist Riley Gaines.
1:01:47
SPEAKER_04: The protest organized by the University of Minnesota Students for a Democrat Society, UMN SDS.
1:01:55
SPEAKER_04: Ugh I got me the UMN SDS.
1:01:58
SPEAKER_04: There is no cure.
1:02:01
SPEAKER_04: Can you get vaccinated for that?
1:02:03
SPEAKER_04: Aimed at supporting transgender people while denouncing the university decision to allow gains on campus.
1:02:09
SPEAKER_04: This is just about doing the right thing.
1:02:13
SPEAKER_04: One, it's about not going and destroying the bodies of underage children.
1:02:18
SPEAKER_04: That's child abuse.
1:02:20
SPEAKER_04: And then two, not stripping away the work and discriminating against, as we keep with the theme, biological women competing in sports.
1:02:27
SPEAKER_04: I was watching another video yesterday.
1:02:29
SPEAKER_04: There was some um cross-country match, I think it was high school, and there's just some dude who's just there in the middle getting ready to run, two feet taller than all the women around him, pretending that he's a woman.
1:02:43
SPEAKER_04: Thankfully, there were a bunch of girls who decided to protest and not uh partake in the uh in the race.
1:02:52
SPEAKER_04: The statement posted by the UMN SDS social media said the following about the planned protest turnout to show Riley Gaines and TP USA that their reactionary transphobic ideology isn't welcome here.
1:03:06
SPEAKER_04: Ignorant fools.
1:03:07
SPEAKER_04: They're all just ignorant fools.
1:03:08
SPEAKER_04: They need mental health and mental help.
1:03:11
SPEAKER_04: They just need help.
1:03:13
SPEAKER_04: Shame on the UMN for platforming her bigotry while hiding behind political neutrality.
1:03:19
SPEAKER_04: Transphobes go home, exclamation point, capital letters.
1:03:24
SPEAKER_04: Boy, they really love that free speech, don't they?
1:03:26
SPEAKER_04: Huge advocates.
1:03:28
SPEAKER_04: Sense the sarcasm.
1:03:30
SPEAKER_04: Turning point USA, the national conservatist uh conservative activist organization, has a chapter of the U of N campus, shared uh this response to the protest.
1:03:39
SPEAKER_04: We are used to petulant tantrums when conservatives exercise our free speech on campus.
1:03:44
SPEAKER_04: The event will happen and they will have to deal with it.
1:03:47
SPEAKER_04: The school doesn't belong to them.
1:03:50
SPEAKER_04: The University of Minnesota officials said the event was organized by a registered student organization which is independent from the university, adding that Riley Gaines speech is not a university-sponsored event.
1:04:00
SPEAKER_04: Thank you, University of Minnesota.
1:04:01
SPEAKER_04: We all assumed that.
1:04:03
SPEAKER_04: Riley Gaines, a 12-time NCAA All-American swimmer and girls' sports advocate, spoke at the university, uh, spoke at the Capitol, at Minnesota Capitol on Tuesday, excuse me, in support of a vote to prohibit transgender athletes in good in uh youth sports.
1:04:19
unknown: That's right.
1:04:20
SPEAKER_04: Nothing about what she had to say on stage yesterday regarding this.
1:04:24
SPEAKER_04: Gaines has called transgender athletes' participation in girls and women's sports a war on women because it is.
1:04:29
SPEAKER_04: And has supported legislation to ban transgender athletes from uh doing so.
1:04:33
SPEAKER_04: No, the individual's pushing back on this.
1:04:35
SPEAKER_04: They're in support of child abuse.
1:04:39
SPEAKER_04: They're in support of discriminating against biological women.
1:04:42
SPEAKER_04: Go create other, go create other leagues.
1:04:46
SPEAKER_04: Co-ed, co-ed leagues, transgender leagues, where you can go and compete and do all you want.
1:04:51
SPEAKER_04: But quit co-opting legitimate sports by making them illegitimate by having biological men competing against women, stripping away their ability to obtain the achievement that they've worked so hard to achieve.
1:05:04
SPEAKER_04: But they're never gonna do that because it's not actually about supporting transgender people, the individuals that are out there doing this.
1:05:11
SPEAKER_04: It's all about the agenda.
1:05:12
SPEAKER_04: And it's about the ideology and pushing back against the right.
1:05:15
SPEAKER_04: That's it.
1:05:16
SPEAKER_04: Dems do not care, they only care about power and getting elected and retaining that power after they're elected.
1:05:24
SPEAKER_04: That's it.
1:05:24
SPEAKER_04: They will step on anybody to push that agenda, including biological women, people of their own party.
1:05:32
SPEAKER_04: Which is why, depending on if and when Ilhan Omar is indicted, I do expect that you're gonna see Democrats, all depending on how severe the indictment and the allegations are and how much evidence that the federal government puts forward.
1:05:49
SPEAKER_04: But I I predict that Democrats are gonna, you know, go the swallwheel route.
1:05:55
SPEAKER_04: Oh, too bad, so sad.
1:05:56
SPEAKER_04: See you later.
1:05:57
SPEAKER_04: Bye bye.
1:05:58
SPEAKER_04: Menendez, you name it.
1:06:00
SPEAKER_04: Probably try to try to take credit for holding somebody accountable for their criminal activity by saying it all started with the Biden administration.
1:06:08
SPEAKER_04: We'll talk more about this a little bit later on, but just keeping with the theme.
1:06:12
SPEAKER_04: The college fix in a story from Alpha News, the University of Minnesota, speaking of which, uh speaking of which, the institute behind the controversial My Gender Dolls Project also shows young children uh coloring books that include pages with naked kids who clinicians refer to as gender creative.
1:06:34
SPEAKER_04: They reviewed two videos posted in 2025 on the university's Elike Colem Institute for Sexual and Gender Health website that describe research and counseling for children who may be gender confused.
1:06:46
SPEAKER_04: It's child abuse.
1:06:48
SPEAKER_04: Absolutely, there's no other way to look at it.
1:06:51
SPEAKER_04: This is the abuse of children all for political gain.
1:06:56
SPEAKER_04: It's disgusting.
1:06:59
SPEAKER_04: And it should be framed and discussed as such.
1:07:02
SPEAKER_04: If we had any level of quality journalism and common sense within our media, that's the discussion that will be taking place regarding these issues.
1:07:11
SPEAKER_04: You can do both.
1:07:13
SPEAKER_04: You can say, if you're an adult, live your life how you want to live.
1:07:16
SPEAKER_04: I don't care.
1:07:17
SPEAKER_04: But don't ask me to affirm your delusion.
1:07:21
SPEAKER_04: And also point to the fact that while an adult can go and do and live their life however they want to live, forcing children under the age of 18 into these ideologies, providing them this not health care, whether it's surgical, whether they it is injections, that is straight up child abuse.
1:07:41
SPEAKER_04: And if we were talking about that appropriately through that lens, then you probably would end up seeing a stop to all of it.
1:07:49
SPEAKER_04: But unfortunately and tragically, we uh we absolutely uh do not.
1:07:56
SPEAKER_02: All right.
1:07:58
SPEAKER_04: 651-964-0294.
1:08:01
SPEAKER_04: Let's start here.
1:08:03
SPEAKER_04: I want to get to the latest on Ilhan Omar.
1:08:05
SPEAKER_04: Some of what was re revealed yesterday.
1:08:08
SPEAKER_04: I want to continue to um set the stage on this regarding Ilhan Omar, her background, her own ideologies, how she was raised, and the impact that it could have on everything that we're discussing right now regarding these investigations, of which we believe there are multiple investigations taking place.
1:08:28
SPEAKER_04: This clip has been floating around online.
1:08:30
SPEAKER_04: I've seen it before, but it's made a resurgence over the course of this week, given all of the renewed interest in Ilhan Omar.
1:08:38
SPEAKER_04: So this is audio and footage being shared online from a 2013 interview on the Belhadan.
1:08:48
SPEAKER_04: It's a Twin Cities PBS program hosted by Ahmed Atharwat.
1:08:53
SPEAKER_04: Omar was an activist here in Minnesota's Somali American community at the time, years before she was elected to Congress.
1:09:02
SPEAKER_04: The interview took place in September of 2013, after the Al-Shabaab terrorist attack at the Westgate shopping mall in Nairobi, Kenya.
1:09:14
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
1:09:15
SPEAKER_04: So in this clip, Ilhan Omar talks about taking a terrorism class.
1:09:19
SPEAKER_04: It was part of a broader discussion about how Muslims are treated in the United States and how the media discusses Islamic relations.
1:09:28
SPEAKER_04: Omar said she took this course on terrorism and then went on to describe her professor raising his shoulders and using a more intense tone when talking about Al-Qaeda or Hezbollah.
1:09:41
SPEAKER_04: She contrasted that with how he said America, England, and the Army.
1:09:47
SPEAKER_04: I'll play you the audio here in just a moment, but I want you to be able to know exactly what you're going to be listening to.
1:09:53
SPEAKER_04: Now, her point in this clip was that the way people pronounce these names can make terrorist organizations sound especially frightening, and she believes reinforced suspicion towards Muslims.
1:10:05
SPEAKER_04: She did not say that she supported Al-Qaeda in this.
1:10:07
SPEAKER_04: I just want to be clear.
1:10:08
SPEAKER_04: But the mere fact that the insinuation was that it was bad, that this professor in this terrorism class was changing his inflection regarding Al-Qaeda and Hezbollah to be bad, right?
1:10:21
SPEAKER_04: That was her issue in order to bolster the terrorism that takes place.
1:10:25
SPEAKER_04: That's completely and totally appropriate, but apparently not in the mind of a younger Ilhan Omar back in 2013.
1:10:32
SPEAKER_33: Or um when I was in college, I took uh a terrorism class.
1:10:36
SPEAKER_33: And is that a such thing?
1:10:38
SPEAKER_29: Yeah, there was So you go out there is a lab for that?
1:10:40
SPEAKER_29: There was a there was a class that you go to lab is a field trap.
1:10:47
SPEAKER_33: How do you do that?
1:10:49
SPEAKER_33: And so it was it was the the thing that was interesting in the class was every time the the the professor said al-Qaeda, he sort of like his shoulders went up and you know.
1:11:00
SPEAKER_33: Yeah, he's in command here.
1:11:01
SPEAKER_33: Al-Qaeda, you know, hospital experts.
1:11:04
SPEAKER_33: And it was, you know, as you might be able to do it.
1:11:09
SPEAKER_33: We are not saying his name.
1:11:11
SPEAKER_33: You probably get to see him on CNN.
1:11:14
SPEAKER_29: Yeah, yeah, of course.
1:11:15
SPEAKER_29: I love those guys.
1:11:16
SPEAKER_33: But you know, but but but it is it is that you don't say America with an intensity, you don't say England with an intensity.
1:11:23
SPEAKER_33: You know, you don't you don't of course you don't.
1:11:28
SPEAKER_04: You see, what's funny is because in the interview, there's a second part to the interview which lends more more details as to what she's referring to, because essentially the host and Ilhan are going back and forth and taking the stance of, well, if the West, if the actions of the West weren't taking place, right?
1:11:47
SPEAKER_04: Like the 2013 Westgate attack, the suggestion is that terrorism could be the reaction to what's happening in the United States.
1:11:55
SPEAKER_04: She's not wrong.
1:11:56
SPEAKER_04: She's describing why terrorists wage their terrorist activity against the West, because it's counter to what they believe and what they were raised on.
1:12:07
SPEAKER_04: Which brings us full circle back to the whole issue that we've been talking about, relating specifically to why are these various controversies taking place and much of it is coming from one particular community, even if it's not the entirety of the community.
1:12:22
SPEAKER_04: This is another one of the examples of why we can't look at solving these problems, whether it's the fraud issue and more specifically as of late, and more dangerous, the on-the-street Somali gang violence taking place, unless you go and get into motivations, the ideologies and beliefs of why individuals have such a disrespect for the United States of America.
1:12:44
SPEAKER_33: Say um the army with an intensity.
1:12:48
SPEAKER_33: Car though.
1:12:49
SPEAKER_33: But you say these these names because you you want that that word to carry weight.
1:12:54
SPEAKER_33: You want it to leave something with a cultural meaning, not just a lot of things.
1:13:00
SPEAKER_33: Exactly.
1:13:00
SPEAKER_33: So it's it's you know, it's it's it's said with a deeper voice, with so so yes, it is Yeah, it is, and for a good reason.
1:13:12
SPEAKER_04: For a good reason, because there should be emphasis on it.
1:13:17
SPEAKER_04: Because there are individuals out there who have a belief wherein a part of that belief is going and taking out the infidel.
1:13:27
SPEAKER_03: That's you and me in a lot of these circumstances.
1:13:30
SPEAKER_04: Congressman Brandon Gill.
1:13:34
SPEAKER_04: Uh making the social media rounds, I'll spike in uh this clip, uh, had this to say regarding American citizenship and how important it is as Ilhan Omar is being allegedly investigated over her immigration status.
1:13:48
SPEAKER_39: Citizenship strikes at the heart of what it means to be an American.
1:13:52
SPEAKER_39: With American citizenship comes all the rights and privileges that we as Americans guard extremely jealously.
1:13:59
SPEAKER_39: This is the most valuable thing in the world.
1:14:01
SPEAKER_39: And you can just ask yourself if she did indeed uh engage in immigration fraud, what does that say about her ability or her willingness to stop immigration fraud as a member of Congress?
1:14:13
SPEAKER_39: What does that say about her willingness to secure the border and make sure that we have a sane immigration policy, or about her ability or willingness to make sure that our homeland is protected, that all of these questions are pertinent here, and I think that's why the American people want answers.
1:14:29
SPEAKER_04: He's a hundred percent correct.
1:14:32
SPEAKER_04: Now, word is the ultimate aim of the Ilhan Omar probe is to strip her of her citizenship and deport her.
1:14:39
SPEAKER_04: Now, I have a hard time believing that there's been any official, there hasn't been any official source that said that.
1:14:45
SPEAKER_04: We'll get into the details of this.
1:14:48
SPEAKER_04: Because that could be language intended to spark criticism of the Trump administration.
1:14:55
SPEAKER_04: While many of us will be sitting back going, no, that should be happening.
1:14:58
SPEAKER_04: And if she is guilty of immigration fraud, then that absolutely should be happening.
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SPEAKER_21: Yeah, I just popped in, so I don't know if you're probably done talking about this for the day already, but am I the only one who looks at uh Palon Omar getting arrested for maybe lying about her age?
1:18:45
SPEAKER_21: Kind of like Al Capone getting arrested for tax evasion, like what real crime is.
1:18:56
SPEAKER_04: No, you're not the only one.
1:18:57
SPEAKER_04: As a matter of fact, I made that analogy earlier in the week.
1:19:00
SPEAKER_04: Uh where we're talking with uh Bill Glon, the policy fellow here, who's written a ton about Ilhan Omar, and that it could very well be that.
1:19:08
SPEAKER_04: As uh Bill lays out, he calls it chiseling.
1:19:11
SPEAKER_04: He says that Ilhan Omar, the allegations are that she's been chiseling away at various things for years now, and it could end up being that there might be larger things that she's attached to, more egregious crimes.
1:19:25
SPEAKER_04: Certainly, some of the allegations that we'll dive into would point to that, but it may be something as simple as just immigration fraud relating to the changing of a birth date from 81 to 82 by her staffers once she got into Congress.
1:19:39
SPEAKER_30: Hi, John.
1:19:40
SPEAKER_30: Teach a friend of your old show, and I'm glad that I found your new one.
1:19:43
SPEAKER_30: I just want to speak about Ileon Omar.
1:19:47
SPEAKER_30: Um, I've been in the room with this woman multiple times here in the Twin Cities.
1:19:51
SPEAKER_30: I live in Minneapolis.
1:19:52
SPEAKER_30: She's always been small.
1:19:54
SPEAKER_30: She's always walked around like she's better than everybody.
1:19:57
SPEAKER_30: I know people that grew up with her in those uh riverside apartments, and she's always been very condescending.
1:20:06
SPEAKER_30: I'm glad that people are exposing her for what she is.
1:20:09
SPEAKER_30: It just doesn't make sense why you would marry one guy, have two kids with them, marry another person, then have kids with the first husband, and then file joint tax returns.
1:20:22
SPEAKER_30: Something doesn't seem right, and all they would have to do is get a blood test.
1:20:28
SPEAKER_30: Have a good day.
1:20:29
SPEAKER_04: The federal investigation into Representative Ilhan Omar focusing on whether she or her late father falsified the age on the paperwork.
1:20:38
SPEAKER_04: Investigators are examining her father's immigration history, her own statements about obtaining citizenship, and her financial disclosures.
1:20:46
SPEAKER_04: Omar, a prominent member of the squad, which has now co-opted the entirety of the Democrat Party, in my opinion, accused the Trump administration of weaponizing the federal government for political uh purposes.
1:20:56
SPEAKER_04: Uh OAN was asking former immigration judge Andrew Arthur if the government pursues civil uh denaturalization, could she end up losing her congressional seat?
1:21:08
SPEAKER_00: This is a jurisdiction that has been very, very gracious to Democrat politicians over the years.
1:21:15
SPEAKER_13: Yeah, absolutely.
1:21:17
SPEAKER_13: I mean, you know, there's no doubt about it.
1:21:19
SPEAKER_13: This is a very heavily uh democratically appointed bench of lawyers in the District of Columbia.
1:21:26
SPEAKER_13: The good news is that many of those lawyers are some of the best lawyers in America, regardless of their political opinions.
1:21:32
SPEAKER_13: And if it were to go the civil denaturalization route, that would be appealable to the U.S.
1:21:39
SPEAKER_13: Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, the D.C.
1:21:42
SPEAKER_13: Circuit Court.
1:21:43
SPEAKER_13: Even then, there'd be a lot of attention that would be paid to this.
1:21:47
SPEAKER_13: And, you know, district court judges would really want to play this, you know, straight along the lines.
1:21:52
SPEAKER_13: They would issue the sort of decision that any reasonable judge would issue, ideally.
1:21:58
SPEAKER_13: Uh, but even then, you know, because it's civil, it could be appealed to the uh DC circuit, and then on to the Supreme Court, where I think a lot more scrutiny is going to be paid, uh where you're gonna have even better lawyers looking at the issue, and where I think that you are going to get a uh just and fair decision, either for the Congresswoman or for whatever the uh government thinks it's found in the course of its federal investigation.
1:22:26
SPEAKER_00: Very interesting.
1:22:27
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so potentially, potentially, for looking at civil denaturalization, if they do find something, it could result in her not being able to keep her seat.
1:22:37
SPEAKER_00: But again, we'll wait to hear more details as the story uh comes out and as the investigation is published.
1:22:43
SPEAKER_00: I doubt we'll see details of this um too soon, but we may be surprised.
1:22:50
SPEAKER_04: I don't think that people qu I don't think people quite grasp how big of a deal it is going to be.
1:23:01
SPEAKER_04: If and when Ilhan is indicted, I don't think there's any escaping it right now, based off of everything that we've seen so far.
1:23:07
SPEAKER_04: For that judge in DC, as we've been talking about all week, to sign off on the warrant to go in, even if it was limited, and I'll get to this in just a moment.
1:23:16
SPEAKER_04: Uh, they had to show probable cause.
1:23:19
SPEAKER_04: And this close to the election, there is no written rule about 60 days election.
1:23:23
SPEAKER_04: It's all garbage.
1:23:24
SPEAKER_04: That's all garbage being put out by the left to try to diminish how impactful this is.
1:23:30
SPEAKER_04: Make no mistake though, if and when she's indicted, oh man.
1:23:34
SPEAKER_04: You should just sit back and watch the fireworks because it's going to get it's going to get weird.
1:23:39
SPEAKER_04: The only way it doesn't get weird is if my prediction comes true.
1:23:43
SPEAKER_04: And that is, depending on what the indictment details as it relates to the allegations, if Democrats go, oop, can't touch that, and they end up going and trying to use Biden being the one, his administration being the one to start this to try to take credit for.
1:23:59
SPEAKER_04: That's the only way it doesn't, it doesn't blow up.
1:24:01
SPEAKER_04: So and there's good arguments either way.
1:24:03
SPEAKER_04: I had plenty of people that were commenting on my post yesterday, which went eh, went kind of viral.
1:24:08
SPEAKER_04: It was getting quite a bit of attention, uh, who were like false, and then they were giving their opinion, which is totally fine.
1:24:13
SPEAKER_04: I'm giving my opinion.
1:24:14
SPEAKER_04: So we'll see.
1:24:14
SPEAKER_04: We'll see how this whole thing shakes out.
1:24:16
SPEAKER_04: According to News Nation, prosecutors have issued more than 15 subpoenas, including subpoenas of Omar's relatives.
1:24:22
SPEAKER_04: The outlet cited a source familiar with the investigation.
1:24:24
SPEAKER_04: They also, as we've been talking about all morning long, seized Omar's cell phone during the search of her Washington, D.C.
1:24:30
SPEAKER_04: residence on Monday.
1:24:31
SPEAKER_04: Now, in addition to the cell phone, so this goes back to the passport situation.
1:24:34
SPEAKER_04: And for those that missed it, there's a rumor that she has fled the country to Morocco.
1:24:38
SPEAKER_04: I have not seen anything substantiating that rumor whatsoever.
1:24:42
SPEAKER_04: I believe it was like one outlet saying that they had heard from official sources that she had fled to Morocco, but I haven't seen any substantiating of that whatsoever.
1:24:51
SPEAKER_04: That rumor is going to persist and continue, regardless of whether or not I'm talking about it on the show.
1:24:56
SPEAKER_04: It's going to consume to persist and uh only because she's not been seen.
1:25:02
SPEAKER_04: Miss I Won't Be Silenced has been silent now all week long, and nobody has technically seen her since she allegedly was speeding away in her fancy, schmancy automobile.
1:25:14
SPEAKER_04: I forgot the make and model of it.
1:25:16
SPEAKER_04: Maybe uh maybe Devin, you can look that up out of curiosity.
1:25:19
SPEAKER_04: So, in addition to the cell phone, authorities did seize notebooks, personal computers, Omar's passport, according to the journal.
1:25:25
SPEAKER_04: What wasn't included in that list was oh wait, hold on.
1:25:28
SPEAKER_04: Oh, they did get her passport.
1:25:29
SPEAKER_04: Okay, so there it is.
1:25:31
SPEAKER_04: See, initially, I had just read that they were authorized to seize the passport.
1:25:38
SPEAKER_04: But according to this story, they actually did seize the passport.
1:25:44
unknown: Interesting.
1:25:45
SPEAKER_04: All right.
1:25:46
SPEAKER_04: We'll get some more of your comments coming up in just a moment.
1:25:48
SPEAKER_04: Let's break down the timeline, though, of where we're at right now.
1:25:51
SPEAKER_04: Uh 651-964-0294.
1:25:56
SPEAKER_04: I want to break down the start of the search and what happened uh overnight and what we know and what we don't know.
1:26:01
SPEAKER_04: We'll kind of make this our official Ilhan Omar investigative uh update.
1:26:05
SPEAKER_04: Before I dive into that, though, let's get back to uh your thoughts from the uh blaster line and we'll go here.
1:26:10
SPEAKER_20: Okay.
1:26:10
SPEAKER_20: Uh Ilhan Omar reported for hours in.
1:26:15
SPEAKER_04: Oh, sorry.
1:26:16
SPEAKER_04: It's uh can't hear your comment there, buddy.
1:26:18
SPEAKER_04: Uh too much uh too much distortion.
1:26:20
SPEAKER_04: My uh my apologies.
1:26:22
SPEAKER_04: Uh let's see.
1:26:23
SPEAKER_04: Somebody wrote in John, I'd like to know who tipped her off.
1:26:26
SPEAKER_04: That should be investigated.
1:26:27
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's what I was thinking too.
1:26:30
SPEAKER_04: It doesn't surprise me in the least bit if she was tipped off.
1:26:36
SPEAKER_04: Somebody else wrote, interesting, the rumor is that she's in Morocco, not Somalia.
1:26:42
SPEAKER_04: Love cash's quote.
1:26:43
SPEAKER_04: No matter where you run, we will find you.
1:26:45
SPEAKER_04: I'm holding him to that.
1:26:46
SPEAKER_04: So if they did seize her passport, then that would pretty much end um you know, any of the rumors she traveled overseas.
1:26:55
SPEAKER_04: Could the reason the Biden administration started the uh started the investigation into Ilhan Omar was uh to provide them with political leverage against her.
1:27:05
SPEAKER_04: I just think the allegations had grown too big to ignore anymore.
1:27:10
SPEAKER_04: That's what I think.
1:27:11
SPEAKER_04: So we had on October 12th a federal search of the home, as we break down the details.
1:27:16
SPEAKER_04: Then the next day, the investigation's reported focus becomes clearer, with the Washington Post reporting that investigators were examining the allegations that Omar or her late father may have made false statements on their paperwork decades ago.
1:27:30
SPEAKER_04: Then on uh yesterday, you had the phone seized and the subpoenas issued.
1:27:36
SPEAKER_04: The Associated Press reported the investigators seized Omar's phone, more than a dozen grand jury subpoenas, part of the evidence gathering process here in Minnesota.
1:27:46
SPEAKER_04: Also, yesterday, the second investigative thread emerges.
1:27:53
SPEAKER_04: So attorney, U.S.
1:27:54
SPEAKER_04: attorney Janine Pirot said her office was also examining issues concerning.
1:28:00
SPEAKER_04: Concerning Omar's financial disclosures.
1:28:03
SPEAKER_04: The publicly available reporting does not yet establish which disclosures are at issue or what evidence prompted that particular inquiry.
1:28:11
SPEAKER_04: Now, the most consequential new detail, this is the one I also I this I find this really interesting.
1:28:17
SPEAKER_04: CNN reported uh yesterday that the U.S.
1:28:22
SPEAKER_04: Magistrate Judge Matthew Scharbaugh placed limits on the Justice Department's access to Omar's records before approving the search warrant.
1:28:30
SPEAKER_04: According to the people familiar with the matter, the prosecutors had sought broader access, and the judge imposed restrictions because Omar is a member of Congress with constitutional protections related to her legislative role.
1:28:43
SPEAKER_04: So the judge did authorize the search, but there were restrictions.
1:28:47
SPEAKER_04: And yet, this is what I find most interesting, yet, they were still able to go and seize cell phones, laptops, and even a passport.
1:28:57
SPEAKER_04: So exactly what was being restricted, if they were able to go and get that.
1:29:02
SPEAKER_04: Those items couldn't have been that restrictive.
1:29:06
SPEAKER_04: The complete warrant affidavit, the precise limitations, and the evidence presented to the judge still have, of course, yet to be uh seen.
1:29:17
SPEAKER_04: So we'll get into just a moment what exactly the investigators are reportedly investigating.
1:29:22
SPEAKER_04: Right now I want to get back to some more of your thoughts on the blaster line.
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1:29:28
SPEAKER_24: I'm sort of floored because if she got tipped off, why the heck were they able to get her cell phone and her passport?
1:29:37
SPEAKER_24: Like if you had two brain cells to rub together, those would be the first two things you would grab on your way out the door, then your computer, and then if you had time, any other intimidating things you had laying around.
1:29:50
SPEAKER_24: But uh, yeah, that's just a shock to me.
1:29:53
SPEAKER_24: How do you end up with a passport and a phone?
1:29:56
SPEAKER_24: Because like I said, those are the first things I would grab.
1:30:02
SPEAKER_23: Good morning, John.
1:30:04
SPEAKER_23: With the sheer amount of people we've had come in the country illegally, and the known gataways.
1:30:10
SPEAKER_23: None of them have passports.
1:30:12
SPEAKER_23: So I don't see any reason why she wouldn't have people in the know.
1:30:16
SPEAKER_23: That she could get out of the country without an ID and without a passport.
1:30:20
SPEAKER_23: All she's gotta do is cross the border.
1:30:22
SPEAKER_23: Either north or south.
1:30:26
SPEAKER_23: She doesn't need a passport to get out of the country.
1:30:29
SPEAKER_23: She might need a passport to get out a plane, but she doesn't need a passport to get out of the country.
1:30:34
SPEAKER_23: And she's got, I'm sure, people who know how to do it.
1:30:37
SPEAKER_04: So you already see a downplaying of all of this and these investigations and allegations in the mainstream media.
1:30:44
SPEAKER_04: We'll dive into the five different things that Ilhan Omar could be attached to that might bring about a criminal indictment.
1:30:53
SPEAKER_04: I want to play, speaking of uh of CNN.
1:30:56
SPEAKER_04: I want to play this clip from uh Jake Tapper's uh show last night.
1:30:59
SPEAKER_04: There's a couple of different things in here.
1:31:01
SPEAKER_04: One, there is this uh narrative emerging that if there was a birthday change, it was probably just a mistake doing nothing with my fingers.
1:31:10
SPEAKER_04: And as you'll hear in this clip, Jake Tapper talks about how, oh, he just wishes that she would have come clean earlier because it's not a big deal.
1:31:18
SPEAKER_04: We had foe of the show Phil leave a post on X yesterday making that claim.
1:31:23
SPEAKER_04: That if it is just specifically, I don't think that it is.
1:31:26
SPEAKER_04: I think it's much broader than this.
1:31:27
SPEAKER_04: If they end up getting her on the birthday change and end up denaturalizing her because of it, then I think you're in that position, not right, not wrong, but you're in a position where you're looking at this more like an Al Capone situation where they got him on tax evasion, even though there was potentially other things, you know, much other much larger crimes that they would have ended up uh having been involved in.
1:31:51
SPEAKER_04: But the excuse focusing specifically on the changing of the birthday right now is, oh, you know, it was just a mistake and an oversight, didn't mean to do it nefariously.
1:32:00
SPEAKER_04: Well, then why change it at all?
1:32:02
SPEAKER_04: So here's some of that audio from CNN and Jake Tapper and his guest uh last night.
1:32:05
SPEAKER_04: And again, you're gonna hear a lot of excuses coming from both of these two individuals.
1:32:14
SPEAKER_49: Is there any specific reason that you can see as to why the Justice Department would act now uh and kind of ignore this rule?
1:32:22
SPEAKER_44: Well, a couple reasons, potentially, Jake.
1:32:24
SPEAKER_44: So as you say, this is an internal rule.
1:32:26
SPEAKER_44: It's been uh followed for decades now by administrations of Republicans and Democrats alike that you wouldn't make a move like this within 60 days of an election if you can avoid it.
1:32:36
SPEAKER_44: I can think of two possibilities here.
1:32:37
SPEAKER_44: One, there are exceptions to the rule.
1:32:40
SPEAKER_44: If prosecutors determine there's an ongoing danger to the public, or if prosecutors determine that there's some effort to obstruct justice or for somebody to flee.
1:32:48
SPEAKER_44: The other possibility is this DOJ just might not care.
1:32:52
SPEAKER_44: They might just say, we're not abiding by that rule.
1:32:55
SPEAKER_44: I think it would be a very bad idea if they do that, because the rule is intended to protect DOJ's independence from politics, but it certainly would be within the powers and rights of DOJ to say, we're just not playing it by that rule.
1:33:06
SPEAKER_49: The Justice Department had to get this magistrate judge to sign off on the search warrant.
1:33:10
SPEAKER_49: What does that tell you, if anything, about the seriousness of this investigation?
1:33:15
SPEAKER_44: Well, it means that at least some external person, this magistrate judge outside of the Justice Department, reviewed paperwork and determined that there's probable cause that a crime was committed.
1:33:25
SPEAKER_44: That's a lower standard, of course, than proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
1:33:28
SPEAKER_44: And the prosecutors or agents were likely to find evidence of that crime in the place they're searching.
1:33:34
SPEAKER_44: Now, I've done this more times than I can count, Jake.
1:33:36
SPEAKER_44: As a prosecutor, you do have to lay out your evidence in detail.
1:33:39
SPEAKER_44: You can't just say, hey, judge, we think something's wrong.
1:33:42
SPEAKER_44: And you have to specify a federal crime.
1:33:44
SPEAKER_44: Judges and magistrates typically look at this fairly carefully.
1:33:47
SPEAKER_44: They're not going to rubber stamp it, but again, important to remember the burden of proof here probably cause much, much lower than proof beyond a reasonable doubt that you're supposed to have before you charge a case, and that you have to have if you want to get a conviction.
1:33:58
SPEAKER_49: So the allegation, as we've discussed with uh Evan and Caitlin, is that she may have, and we're we we're not saying this is true, but the allegation is that when she was an adult, maybe 18, maybe 19, she claimed to be a minor, maybe 17.
1:34:15
SPEAKER_49: Uh, and because it would be easier to become a citizen because her father from Somalia was a naturalized citizen.
1:34:23
SPEAKER_49: That seems like a long time ago.
1:34:24
SPEAKER_49: I mean, that was, I think, in the year 2000.
1:34:27
SPEAKER_49: What about the statute of limitations?
1:34:29
SPEAKER_49: Or is it important if she continued allegedly to keep up this line conspiracy to hide the truth from 26 years ago?
1:34:40
SPEAKER_44: Right.
1:34:40
SPEAKER_44: Most federal crimes in the immigration area will have a maximum of a five-year statute of limitations.
1:34:46
SPEAKER_44: We're obviously well beyond that from 2000.
1:34:48
SPEAKER_44: So there could be a couple possibilities.
1:34:50
SPEAKER_44: One, some offenses say that if a person gets into the country or gets status by making false statements and then remains in the country, that will extend the person remaining in the country will extend the statute of limitations.
1:35:02
SPEAKER_44: Two, it could be that more recent paperwork was submitted, perhaps a reapplication or a renewal.
1:35:07
SPEAKER_44: It could be somebody relating to Representative Omar, somebody around her.
1:35:11
SPEAKER_44: And then three, if prosecutors have evidence that within the last five years, there's been some evidence of obstruction, some effort to get stories straight, to destroy documents, to persuade potential witnesses to say a certain thing, then those obstruction charges, if they happened within the last five years, would also be within the statute of limitations.
1:35:29
SPEAKER_44: So I think it's one of the bigger mysteries around this case, but those are three possibilities.
1:35:35
SPEAKER_19: Hey John, this 60-day thing is crazy.
1:35:38
SPEAKER_19: It's like, okay, we're not sure if this person is really a legitimate citizen, but we gotta go ahead and vote them into Congress anyway.
1:35:47
SPEAKER_19: I mean, don't you want to find that out before the election?
1:35:51
SPEAKER_19: Or at least if there's credible evidence evidence of that, present it.
1:35:56
SPEAKER_19: That's what I think anyway.
1:35:57
SPEAKER_04: Well, I don't think the controversy had reached the level that it did.
1:36:01
SPEAKER_04: The 60-day thing drives me nuts in all of this based on the allegations going back to the uh to the blast.
1:36:08
SPEAKER_04: Because he's right.
1:36:09
SPEAKER_04: I mean, okay, so you have evidence, you've got your ducks in a row, you can do an indictment over an individual who may have fraudulently gained his citizenship, and they're also sitting in Congress.
1:36:19
SPEAKER_04: Oh, no, no, we're gonna wait though until after the election's over.
1:36:22
SPEAKER_04: Give me a break already.
1:36:24
SPEAKER_04: This uh comment rolled in, made me chuckle.
1:36:26
SPEAKER_04: Uh Ilhan could uh oh wait, I'm sorry.
1:36:28
SPEAKER_04: Uh, I need to go here to this one.
1:36:30
SPEAKER_04: Mike from Excelsior.
1:36:31
SPEAKER_04: Uh, people need to stop saying that it's a rule and start saying that it's just frowned upon.
1:36:36
SPEAKER_04: That's right.
1:36:36
SPEAKER_04: They're more like guidelines.
1:36:37
SPEAKER_04: Let's get back a there's another minute here or so in this uh clip on Jake uh chat uh uh Jake uh Tapper in CNN.
1:36:44
SPEAKER_49: Just quickly, if this is true, would it not have been wiser for the Congresswoman to have gone to the Biden Justice Department and said this has happened and there was a mistake and I'd like to come clean and pay whatever fine and then that way this you know not left up to the Trump Justice Department?
1:37:05
SPEAKER_44: Is that I mean has that occurred to you or it's a really tricky dilemma that any subject of this Could she just have come clean?
1:37:15
SPEAKER_04: I lied, everybody.
1:37:17
SPEAKER_04: Totally was an adult and not eligible to get citizenship.
1:37:22
SPEAKER_04: My bad.
1:37:22
SPEAKER_04: Please let me stay in Congress.
1:37:24
SPEAKER_04: Is that what Jake Tapper is assuming here?
1:37:26
SPEAKER_04: I thought nobody was above the law.
1:37:28
SPEAKER_04: Oh, if you just come clean though, and you're on the left, you can be above the law.
1:37:31
SPEAKER_44: This type of investigation might have, and indeed she might have fared better under the Biden administration.
1:37:36
SPEAKER_44: But look, it's an important point of all this.
1:37:38
SPEAKER_44: There was some investigation, as I think Evan just said, that was started under the Biden administration, reopened under the Trump administration.
1:37:45
SPEAKER_44: So I think that's gonna undermine any argument she may have down the line that this is politically selective and vindictive.
1:37:51
SPEAKER_44: But again, then again, Donald Trump has given her plenty of ammo to argue that she's being singled out for personal reasons.
1:37:56
SPEAKER_44: So that's a battle yet to come.
1:37:58
SPEAKER_49: Ellie Honey, thanks so much.
1:37:59
SPEAKER_49: The Pope's physicians offered.
1:38:05
SPEAKER_20: This is Mike from Clearwater.
1:38:07
SPEAKER_20: Um, just want to leave a message.
1:38:08
SPEAKER_20: Elon Omar was one of the authors as a state legislator of the Feeding Her Future program.
1:38:14
SPEAKER_20: She then hired, quote unquote, her sister to administer the program, who then turned around and hired the criminals that actually implemented the program who didn't really feed anybody but stole millions of dollars.
1:38:30
SPEAKER_20: Who then turned around and gave campaign donations to Democrats, and that's possibly where Elon Omar received 30 million dollars of illicit income that she reported to the IRS and then changed it down to$90,000 instead.
1:38:49
SPEAKER_20: Accounting error.
1:38:51
SPEAKER_20: So could there be investigations into that?
1:38:54
SPEAKER_20: And that's probably the real biggest crime that she has committed.
1:38:58
SPEAKER_04: Well, and that's what we're gonna dive into here in just a moment.
1:39:00
SPEAKER_04: We'll go through the list of the items that she could uh face allegations on.
1:39:05
SPEAKER_27: Hey, good morning, John.
1:39:07
SPEAKER_27: If I remember correctly, didn't the Obama administration uh look into Hillary Clinton's server issues within that 60-day window?
1:39:17
SPEAKER_27: Of course.
1:39:17
SPEAKER_27: So this rule has been violated like lots of times.
1:39:24
SPEAKER_04: It's not even a rule.
1:39:25
SPEAKER_04: This is not on the, I just want to make sure that you understand my inflection is not aimed at you.
1:39:29
SPEAKER_04: It's not a it's not a thing.
1:39:32
SPEAKER_04: We had this one of my favorite running jokes, when you go back to um uh the Justice and Drew show.
1:39:40
SPEAKER_04: My dear friend Drew, rest in peace.
1:39:41
SPEAKER_04: Miss him every day.
1:39:42
SPEAKER_04: Uh and it was it was myself, it was Drew, and it was Sam uh Sansevier.
1:39:48
SPEAKER_04: Uh you go, and this this got this came up recently.
1:39:51
SPEAKER_04: Uh I can't wait, I can't remember what the what the uh Oh, it was uh they were talking about the the health of candidates.
1:39:57
SPEAKER_04: I think it was I think it was attached to uh to Talo Rico.
1:40:00
SPEAKER_04: Anyway, somebody had brought up that moment when uh Hillary Clinton had just about collapsed outside of the van and she was tossed into the van and then sped away.
1:40:10
SPEAKER_04: She was outside of some New York um event or something and almost collapsed.
1:40:15
SPEAKER_04: And the commentary around it was uh recently was that uh, you know, they they wished that she had been had done more regarding getting off the campaign trail and getting rest.
1:40:26
SPEAKER_04: And they were talking about James Tellerico and where he was for those 12 days and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
1:40:30
SPEAKER_04: Now we have another circumstance of when it comes to Ilhan Omar missing in the midst of uh of all of this as well.
1:40:35
SPEAKER_04: I bring all of this up because we had a running joke on the show was that Hillary Clinton was tossed into the van like a sack of beef.
1:40:45
SPEAKER_04: And Sam, Sansevier, would always respond with, that's not a thing, because it's not a thing.
1:40:51
SPEAKER_04: It was just something that Drew and I came up with on the show that we just thought was funny.
1:40:55
SPEAKER_04: Just to say a sack of beef.
1:40:56
SPEAKER_04: There are no, I mean, there's no sacks of beef, but that's what she was tossed in the van like a sack of beef.
1:41:01
SPEAKER_04: I think one of us may have described it that way.
1:41:03
SPEAKER_04: And so that became a running bit on the show.
1:41:05
SPEAKER_04: I only bring it up because this whole 60-day thing, while, again, like Pirates of the Caribbean, more like guidelines.
1:41:10
SPEAKER_04: The left is only grabbing onto it because they want something to go and talk about to criticize regarding what is going on with uh Ilhan Omar.
1:41:19
SPEAKER_04: That's uh that's it.
1:41:22
SPEAKER_04: So let's get into what exactly are the investigators reportedly investigating?
1:41:26
SPEAKER_04: The Wall Street Journal reported that the administration's investigation could be building a case for denaturalization.
1:41:33
SPEAKER_04: Now, again, this is the Wall Street Journal reporting this.
1:41:36
SPEAKER_04: Anonymous sources, one could make the argument that this could be completely fabricated by people who have no attachment whatsoever to the goings-on of the investigation, but want to stir the pot even more saying they want to denaturalize her.
1:41:52
SPEAKER_04: And that might be the case.
1:41:56
SPEAKER_04: But take it with a grain of salt.
1:41:59
SPEAKER_04: The result of it might be denaturalization, but that might not be the motivation.
1:42:03
SPEAKER_04: The motivation might just be holding her accountable for her actions that could potentially lead to that.
1:42:10
SPEAKER_04: And there's a framing issue here that's important and relevant.
1:42:14
SPEAKER_04: It goes to motivation.
1:42:18
SPEAKER_04: And they'll use that as going, see, all along, they just wanted to go after her to deport her, regardless of the rationale.
1:42:26
SPEAKER_04: No, she has accusations against her.
1:42:29
SPEAKER_04: Washington's U.S.
1:42:30
SPEAKER_04: attorney has publicly referred to a separate line of inquiry involving Omar's financial disclosures, the specific transactions, entries, and potential violations under review have not been clearly identified in the reporting yet.
1:42:44
SPEAKER_04: So the investigation has clearly escalated, and it did so overnight, from a reported inquiry to a search seizure of a phone and the grand jury subpoenas.
1:42:53
SPEAKER_04: But the most important evidence remains largely outside of public view.
1:42:57
SPEAKER_04: And that's important to note when we're talking about this, because much of what we're covering is still speculation.
1:43:03
SPEAKER_04: It is informed speculation, but it is still speculation nonetheless.
1:43:08
SPEAKER_04: The seizing of the cell phone, even though the judge made a limited search, I find very, very interesting.
1:43:21
SPEAKER_18: What do you think is worse?
1:43:23
SPEAKER_18: The fighting crime family or the Elon Omar crime family?
1:43:28
SPEAKER_18: We'll have to wait and see, but it seems like Biden's DOJ was going after Ian Omar so that he could get off of them and direct it towards the Omar family.
1:43:47
SPEAKER_29: Hey, has uh has uh Mr.
1:43:49
SPEAKER_29: Dickey uh said anything about the statute of limitations when it comes to immigration privacy.
1:43:58
SPEAKER_29: That doesn't that that doesn't make any sense to me how you can lie on paperwork, but as long as you get away with it for a certain amount of years, it doesn't matter anymore.
1:44:06
SPEAKER_29: Um, you can't be held accountable for that.
1:44:09
SPEAKER_29: Make it make sense.
1:44:11
SPEAKER_04: Well, let's get into that.
1:44:12
SPEAKER_04: So the five crimes that could be behind the Ilhan Omar raid, according to the Daily Wire.
1:44:19
SPEAKER_04: So the first one is the immigration fraud because of her father.
1:44:22
SPEAKER_04: Omar's Omar's father, as we've discussed on the show, was part of a communist dictatorship that Somalis were fleeing, not an innocent victim fleeing it.
1:44:33
SPEAKER_04: And that's incredibly relevant when you get into the background, the motivation, the education, and the ideology that Ilhan Omar was raised under.
1:44:44
SPEAKER_04: She's kind of a mirror image in what we see within the immigrant Somali community here.
1:44:52
SPEAKER_04: Not everybody, but many of them, right, have gone through childhood being raised with a similar ideology.
1:45:01
SPEAKER_04: In this case, Ilhan Omar, when they fled Somalia, she wasn't some, you know, poor peasant girl.
1:45:08
SPEAKER_04: No, she was a part of a family that was of some means working under this communist dictatorship, wherein there was a civil war, and her colonel, who was under that dictator, had to flee along with his family.
1:45:24
SPEAKER_04: Omar can't be charged to the blast, can't be charged with marrying her brother to get him citizenship, to get him citizenship.
1:45:33
SPEAKER_04: Because that's the argument here.
1:45:34
SPEAKER_04: I think that gets conflated quite a bit.
1:45:35
SPEAKER_04: No, to get her brother citizenship because the Statute of Limitations is up on that.
1:45:40
SPEAKER_04: But if she only got her citizenship because of fraud, that's a completely different story.
1:45:45
SPEAKER_04: Her citizenship could be revoked.
1:45:47
SPEAKER_04: The most interesting path that takes, uh, that takes is one that reveals Omar's entire story as an oppressed refugee to be an inversion of reality.
1:45:57
SPEAKER_04: Somalis were permitted to come as refugees to the United States because they were fleeing the carnage created by the Saeed Bar, a communist despot.
1:46:07
SPEAKER_04: Somalia consists of four major tribes.
1:46:10
SPEAKER_04: Bar was extremely racist against one of them, the Isok.
1:46:14
SPEAKER_04: I might be pronouncing some of these wrong, so forgive me, if you care.
1:46:18
SPEAKER_04: His military command, then genocide against them, killing as many as 200,000 individuals.
1:46:23
SPEAKER_04: Omar's dad, newer Omar Muhammad, wasn't one of the Isok.
1:46:28
SPEAKER_04: He was one, he was a high-ranking official in Barr's army.
1:46:32
SPEAKER_04: Even a sympathetic obituary in a pro-Omar Minnesota publication describes her father as a colonel in Somalia's army and a wealthy, powerful man.
1:46:42
SPEAKER_04: Omar grew up in a garden compound with her own servants, including a chauffeur, which makes her commentary around the United States of America and her disparaging of the United States of America even more egregious than it already is when you consider what her background is and how she grew up.
1:47:01
SPEAKER_04: I said it before, I'm gonna keep saying it.
1:47:04
SPEAKER_04: She could have served as the example for all immigrants, regardless of where you come from, but very specifically Somalia.
1:47:10
SPEAKER_04: She could have been the example of how you can come to America and take advantage of everything that America has to offer in terms of our generosity, our openness, and our diversity.
1:47:20
SPEAKER_04: And yet she's done the complete opposite.
1:47:22
SPEAKER_04: So how did her family end up in Kenya and eventually Arlington, Virginia?
1:47:26
SPEAKER_04: Because by 1991, Somalis had had enough of the oppression of Barr's one-party state and rose up to overthrow him.
1:47:34
SPEAKER_04: Barr was exiled, and the individuals involved went with him.
1:47:39
SPEAKER_04: It was only then when the regime fell that Omar's family left.
1:47:42
SPEAKER_04: Omar has described her father as an educator, but he uh concealed the fact that he was actually an army officer in the very regime whose oppression caused the refugee crisis.
1:47:55
SPEAKER_04: Then he never should have been allowed into the country in the first place.
1:47:59
SPEAKER_04: This is not unprecedented.
1:48:00
SPEAKER_04: Barr's son and the second in command also came to America first to Virginia, like Omar, then moved to Ohio, where he started a company that bills Medicaid.
1:48:09
SPEAKER_04: You cannot make this stuff up if you tried.
1:48:16
SPEAKER_04: So we also have the immigration fraud because of her own statements.
1:48:20
SPEAKER_04: Omar says her she got her citizenship through what's called derived citizenship, which means that when an adult becomes a citizen, his minor children automatically become citizens too.
1:48:32
SPEAKER_04: But Omar Long said that she was born in 1981, meaning she would have been 18 or 19 when her father became a citizen in the year 2000.
1:48:40
SPEAKER_04: When she took office as a congresswoman in 2019 and began facing scrutiny, she changed her birth year to 82 in congressional and Minnesota legislature directories.
1:48:50
SPEAKER_04: It's also possible that Omar's dad never became a citizen.
1:48:54
SPEAKER_04: Naturalization records are only secret until after death.
1:48:58
SPEAKER_04: So an opponent in her Democrat primary requested her father's records in 2022, and the Department of Homeland Security told her that none existed.
1:49:10
SPEAKER_04: You know, some of the arguments that are putting forward in defense of Ilhan Omar right now are doing these compare these these sort of comparisons to what we're dealing with, and I get it.
1:49:19
SPEAKER_04: When you look at the bigger issues that we're faced with here in the country, especially when it comes to fraud here in Minnesota and the current violence taking place on the streets because of the Somali gangs, yeah, I get the arguments, but it doesn't matter.
1:49:31
SPEAKER_04: You still need to go and hold people accountable for their actions.
1:49:34
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's right.
1:49:34
SPEAKER_04: No one's above the law.
1:49:36
SPEAKER_04: So those trying to downplay this is not a big deal.
1:49:39
SPEAKER_04: It doesn't matter.
1:49:40
SPEAKER_04: And it's absolutely relevant to the issues that we're faced with on a daily basis.
1:49:45
SPEAKER_04: Issues that are impacting voters in this election.
1:49:49
SPEAKER_04: This is important.
1:49:51
SPEAKER_04: Holding people accountable.
1:49:52
SPEAKER_04: This is what Trump supporters want to see happen.
1:49:55
SPEAKER_04: All right, I want to bring you uh the other crimes.
1:49:58
SPEAKER_04: There's three more that Could be behind Ilhan Omar's array.
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SPEAKER_34: You know, this has nothing to do with the quality of our teachers and everything to do with a lack of school board and administrative accountability.
1:52:10
SPEAKER_34: Our superintendent is not contractually responsible for student proficiency.
1:52:14
SPEAKER_34: Go to the blog section of my website, reelectjoeescott.com and eccsmcascores.com.
1:52:29
SPEAKER_01: When Bill Murray was with Sigourney Weaver, who is currently possessed by Zool at the time, and one of the other Ghostbusters knocks on the door, sees him in the apartment with Sigourney Weaver as Zool and says, I thought you didn't hate your client.
1:52:43
SPEAKER_01: And he said it's more of a guideline than a rule.
1:52:47
SPEAKER_04: Thank you for that.
1:52:48
SPEAKER_04: I needed the laugh this morning.
1:52:50
SPEAKER_04: 651-964-0294.
1:52:52
SPEAKER_04: All right.
1:52:53
SPEAKER_04: Immigration fraud because of her father is one of the things that could be behind the Ilhan Omar raid.
1:52:59
SPEAKER_04: Let's go here.
1:53:00
SPEAKER_20: John, another fact about Ilan Omar's father is He was uh accused of war crimes because the entire Saeed fire regime was accused of war crimes.
1:53:12
SPEAKER_20: And if you're a colonel, you're probably implementing the orders of Sayyid Fair and committing war crimes.
1:53:20
SPEAKER_20: Ilan Omar and that family were seen as royalty in Somalia because of her father's position.
1:53:26
SPEAKER_20: That's perhaps where the arrogance that we see her display comes from.
1:53:31
SPEAKER_20: Just thought I'd pass that on.
1:53:33
SPEAKER_04: We also have the immigration fraud because of her own statements.
1:53:37
SPEAKER_04: Then her husband's work promising legislation for African clients.
1:53:42
SPEAKER_04: Omar married her first husband in a mosque without registering the marriage with the state.
1:53:47
SPEAKER_04: While continuing to live with him, she married a gay man who appears to be her brother using a Christian minister registering that marriage with the state.
1:53:56
SPEAKER_04: When she was running for office, she divorced her suspected brother and made the marriage to her real husband official.
1:54:03
SPEAKER_04: Then she became a high-profile squad member, and the campaign cash started rolling in.
1:54:08
SPEAKER_04: She left her husband for her campaign consultant, Tim Minette, allowing her to benefit from the hugest sums of campaign cash she'd paid him.
1:54:18
SPEAKER_04: She had denied dating him just weeks prior, by the way.
1:54:20
SPEAKER_04: I completely forgot about that angle on the story.
1:54:23
SPEAKER_04: Minette ran Roselake Capital, which uh the Washington Free Beacon found last year, boasted that it could structure legislation on behalf of clients.
1:54:31
SPEAKER_04: Roselake's clients were involved in foreign deals in Africa.
1:54:35
SPEAKER_04: Omar has served on the House Foreign Affairs Committee and focused her congressional office on African issues.
1:54:41
SPEAKER_04: The House Oversight Committee wrote that according to Roselake Capital's website, it is staffed by five former diplomats who have experience in over 80 countries and involvement in 11 free trade agreements.
1:54:53
SPEAKER_04: Using a congressional office to do favors for foreign governments who paid the congressman's family is exactly what sent uh Senator Bob Menendez to jail.
1:55:04
SPEAKER_04: He's an example of Democrats pitching off of an individual they used to support.
1:55:09
SPEAKER_04: I don't think that Ilhan Omar is very liked, even by her own party, which is why I suspect if and when the indictment comes down, you're going to see Democrats going and trying to take credit with this starting under the Biden administration to try to take that away from Trump.
1:55:23
SPEAKER_04: There's the case of the disappearing millions.
1:55:25
SPEAKER_04: Roselake Capital claimed to manage$60 billion in assets, yet few in American financial markets had heard of it.
1:55:33
SPEAKER_04: Another company Minette ran, E Street Company, didn't pay its taxes.
1:55:37
SPEAKER_04: Omar reported her husband's net worth up to$30 million before claiming that it was a clerical clerical error and her husband's net worth was actually zero.
1:55:47
SPEAKER_04: The New York Times reported in January that the Justice Department, under the Biden administration, opened the investigation into Representative Ilhan Omar in 2024 to scrutinize her finances, campaign spending, and interactions with a foreign citizen.
1:56:02
SPEAKER_04: Now they say that investigation stalled, so perhaps the Trump administration ended up picking it back up again.
1:56:07
SPEAKER_04: Now here's the last one, and I don't think we spent a lot of time on this.
1:56:11
SPEAKER_04: Omar's sister.
1:56:14
SPEAKER_04: There's a lot of people that have been zeroing in on this one as well.
1:56:17
SPEAKER_04: So um Sara Norr, that's Omar's sister.
1:56:21
SPEAKER_04: She ran the People's Center Civics and Services in the Somali neighborhood of Minneapolis, where she received a$2 million earmark while her sister was a state representative.
1:56:31
SPEAKER_04: Omar also pressed for the free meals program that enabled the Feeding Our Future scandal.
1:56:38
SPEAKER_04: Norr went on to found a group called Grit Partners Consulting and publicly says her company has secured more than$20 million in funding for health initiatives and has consulted on projects backed by federal health agencies such as USAID and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
1:56:58
SPEAKER_04: Things get interesting.
1:57:00
SPEAKER_04: Especially in uh when you include uh USAID.
1:57:05
SPEAKER_04: Now, Omar's sister incorporated grit partners using a residential address that ties together at least three feeding our future convicts.
1:57:16
SPEAKER_04: Again, you don't need the corkboard and the yarn.
1:57:18
SPEAKER_04: The connections are direct.
1:57:20
SPEAKER_04: Including mastermind Amy Bach, who was white, according to the Star Tribune.
1:57:24
SPEAKER_04: And a caterer whose fake receipts were essential to large portions of the uh to a large portion of the Frosters.
1:57:31
SPEAKER_04: Now, the home owned by uh Mashan Ahmed Ali, the article writer, says, I spoke with him on the phone and he couldn't explain why his house was connected to Omar's family and the notorious Froststers, instead, claiming that he had never heard of any of the companies and the people must have used his house without his knowledge.
1:57:50
SPEAKER_04: Curious.
1:57:52
SPEAKER_04: Omar's sister is married to Mohammed Keenan, who was also known as Mohammed Ali, different one.
1:57:58
SPEAKER_04: The same surname as the homeowner.
1:58:02
SPEAKER_04: Mashah Ahmed Ali.
1:58:04
SPEAKER_04: One of the companies created by the homeowner is a Medicaid company called uh Puntland Transport LLC.
1:58:10
SPEAKER_04: Didn't we have a story recently about the transportation companies being uh involved potentially in fraud?
1:58:16
SPEAKER_04: Nick Shirley, I believe, had gone to a couple of locations that were supposed to be running these transportation services.
1:58:21
SPEAKER_04: And as a matter of fact, I'll skip the sarcasm and get right to the point.
1:58:24
SPEAKER_04: Uh these transportation services were looked at because it turns out that there was, once again, very little oversight in these transportation services within these communities that were building the state for millions of taxpayer dollars through Medicaid funding.
1:58:37
SPEAKER_04: And all you had to do was say, I run a service where I'm driving people around, go online to a portal and fill out a spreadsheet saying it when you went and conducted the different transportation services that you're now building the state for with no oversight whatsoever.
1:58:56
SPEAKER_04: Not saying this has anything to do with this, by the way, just giving you a little bit more background.
1:59:01
SPEAKER_04: Omar's sister and her husband have now moved back to Africa.
1:59:04
SPEAKER_04: Oh! What?
1:59:07
SPEAKER_04: Well, they did run a transportation service, so perhaps that was part of it.
1:59:12
SPEAKER_04: Where she has reportedly uh worked as a chief of staff for the Somali Prime Minister and a policy visor advisor to Somali's president.
1:59:21
SPEAKER_04: Listen, given the options, as I've been saying all morning long, it seems pretty inevitable that Omar gets indicted.
1:59:29
SPEAKER_04: Now, on what continues to be a mystery, just like Ilhan Omar's current whereabouts.
1:59:35
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2:00:33
SPEAKER_04: Uh, continuing our talk about uh Ilhan Omar, the investigation, we're gonna move on to a few other items, fraud related, and also what's been going on in Minneapolis as of late.
2:00:44
SPEAKER_04: So we'll get to that coming up.
2:00:45
SPEAKER_04: The mayor is pushing back on calls to end the controversial Minneapolis uh Safety Department.
2:00:50
SPEAKER_04: So we'll give you details on that.
2:00:52
SPEAKER_04: Right now, though, uh we just broke down the five different things that Ilhan Omar could be facing in this investigation.
2:00:58
SPEAKER_04: As we've been reporting uh all morning long, and as was mentioned uh last night, it turns out that the federal government did go and seize Ilhan Omar's cell phone in the midst of their investigation, may have even gone and seized not just laptops and notebooks, but also her passport as well.
2:01:15
SPEAKER_04: And of course, the question continues to come up of, you know, is she, would she be constitutionally ineligible to serve in Congress if it is determined that she wrongly obtained her citizenship?
2:01:29
SPEAKER_04: Uh former uh Clarence Thomas clerk John Yo was on, I believe this is CNN, uh talking about that very issue.
2:01:39
SPEAKER_41: Congressman, the Congresswoman here is not a citizen.
2:01:43
SPEAKER_41: She constitutionally should not be serving in Congress.
2:01:46
SPEAKER_41: We have to find that out.
2:01:48
SPEAKER_41: Is she a citizen or not?
2:01:49
SPEAKER_41: It's a yes and no binary question.
2:01:51
SPEAKER_41: It's easy to figure out.
2:01:53
SPEAKER_41: Doesn't matter whether she knew about it, whether she lied about it intentionally or not.
2:01:57
SPEAKER_41: If she's not a citizen because of the date, then she shouldn't be in Congress.
2:02:01
SPEAKER_41: Then you can look at denaturalizing her, taking away her citizenship.
2:02:05
SPEAKER_41: Again, that just depends on where she and her father telling the truth on her naturalization documents.
2:02:12
SPEAKER_41: Look, I'm a naturalized citizen too.
2:02:14
SPEAKER_41: I got naturalization because of my parents.
2:02:16
SPEAKER_41: I'm really glad they did it.
2:02:18
SPEAKER_41: But if someone came up to me and said, I want to make sure that you were given your citizenship properly, I wouldn't accuse them of being a racist and start raising money off it.
2:02:27
SPEAKER_41: I would say, here's my documents, and this is why we think they're accurate.
2:02:31
SPEAKER_41: I wouldn't go and try this out in the media and try to fight it the way she's fighting it by accusing you, everybody else, of being bigots.
2:02:39
SPEAKER_41: I would just say, here are the documents, and this is why I'm allowed to serve in Congress.
2:02:42
SPEAKER_48: Now you know the law.
2:02:44
SPEAKER_48: Is this something that she can fight for years?
2:02:47
SPEAKER_48: Is this something where she's going to make a big public spectacle about and and and and my apologies, by the way, this was on Fox News Jesse Waters.
2:02:57
SPEAKER_48: You know, have have her friends like create like a little circle around her so she can't get arrested.
2:03:02
SPEAKER_48: That sounds like Berkeley classrooms.
2:03:06
SPEAKER_04: I don't no, I don't see that uh taking place.
2:03:08
SPEAKER_04: I think that depending on how egregious the indictments could potentially be, that we would uh see Democrats uh jump ship.
2:03:17
SPEAKER_04: You're not seeing a ton of support for her, apart from the more extreme individuals.
2:03:23
SPEAKER_04: And what we see locally, this piece came out yesterday, Taylor Schlitz.
2:03:27
SPEAKER_04: I mentioned it briefly on the show, raid on Ilhan Omar's home, raises questions about the abuse of federal power.
2:03:34
SPEAKER_04: Uh Taylor Schlitz's uh previous musings were on a target's offensive Halloween costume is exactly what DEI was supposed to prevent, so you kind of know where this individual is coming from.
2:03:45
SPEAKER_04: They write, from Operation Metro Surge to the search of the Congresswoman's home, Minnesota has become a test of America's constitutional promises.
2:03:53
SPEAKER_04: Give me a break already.
2:03:55
SPEAKER_04: She writes this though.
2:03:56
SPEAKER_04: Homeland Security Monday searches Ilhan Omar's home under a judicially authorized warrant.
2:04:02
SPEAKER_04: That should be the end of the story.
2:04:04
SPEAKER_04: But then she says, as an attorney, I recognize that a warrant is an important constitutional safeguard.
2:04:09
SPEAKER_04: No member of Congress is immune from legitimate investigations.
2:04:13
SPEAKER_04: But a warrant is not a verdict, nor just does judicial authorization settle every question about the independence of an investigation.
2:04:20
SPEAKER_04: Let me stop here.
2:04:22
SPEAKER_04: Nobody is doing otherwise right now.
2:04:24
SPEAKER_04: Every single bit of commentary that I've seen, legitimate commentary, I'm not talking about people that are just posting stuff up online and on social media.
2:04:31
SPEAKER_04: I'm talking about legitimate social commentary, media commentary, talking heads on news shows, shows like mine and others.
2:04:38
SPEAKER_04: Nobody is making those grandiose claims.
2:04:40
SPEAKER_04: Everybody has been saying this is all purely speculation based off of what we know.
2:04:45
SPEAKER_04: I won't speak for other people, I'll just speak for me.
2:04:47
SPEAKER_04: I certainly don't fall into that category.
2:04:50
SPEAKER_04: She says those questions become especially urgent when we consider what the president has already said.
2:04:55
SPEAKER_04: Last December, Donald Trump called Somali immigrants garbage.
2:04:59
SPEAKER_04: He described Omar as an ungrateful loser and demanded to send them back from wherever they came.
2:05:05
SPEAKER_04: Okay, first off, that was last December.
2:05:07
SPEAKER_04: Secondly, Trump may not have even been aware of the details regarding the raid's authorization.
2:05:13
SPEAKER_04: So you're grasping at straws here, lady.
2:05:17
SPEAKER_04: As president's words cannot revoke citizenship, they can shape whose rights the public uh the public believes deserve defending.
2:05:27
SPEAKER_04: Oh, uh, okay, so now you're just worried about the social commentary?
2:05:31
SPEAKER_04: Tell me your argument is thin without telling me that your argument is thin, and I give you that.
2:05:35
SPEAKER_04: Oh, it could help inform public commentary.
2:05:37
SPEAKER_04: People could actually have thoughts and opinions on this issue that we may not agree with.
2:05:41
SPEAKER_04: Oh no.
2:05:45
SPEAKER_04: People could post things on X.
2:05:48
SPEAKER_04: Then she says this.
2:05:49
SPEAKER_04: The search occurred just weeks before an election in which Omar is a candidate.
2:05:53
SPEAKER_04: Senior administration officials have publicly discussed investigating her.
2:05:57
SPEAKER_04: The Justice Department's own rules prohibiting the timing of investigation, uh, investigative actions to influence elections.
2:06:04
SPEAKER_04: There are their guidelines we've been talking about all morning long.
2:06:08
SPEAKER_04: Americans deserve confidence that evidence and independent judgment rather than presidential hostility determine what happened.
2:06:17
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and that's what's going to happen.
2:06:19
SPEAKER_04: No amount of individuals' commentary around this, good, right, accurate or not, changes any of what's going on with the federal investigation.
2:06:28
SPEAKER_04: The same thing rings true with all these claims regarding don't point specifically to the Somali community on these issues.
2:06:36
SPEAKER_04: That does nothing to change any of the issues that we're facing here.
2:06:39
SPEAKER_04: Any more than an individual who was throwing blanket condemnation on all the Somali community does.
2:06:44
SPEAKER_04: They're just words.
2:06:45
SPEAKER_04: Get over it.
2:06:47
SPEAKER_04: But the leftists have done a really, really good job of saying that words are akin to violence.
2:06:53
SPEAKER_04: It's part of how they operate.
2:06:55
SPEAKER_04: When you're so insecure on your own issues and have so little to run on, you have to go to that type of your own rhetoric in order to stress a point.
2:07:06
SPEAKER_04: And that is, oh, when you say things, it's there's consequences to that, and you shouldn't go and say things.
2:07:11
SPEAKER_04: She wraps on this in the piece.
2:07:13
SPEAKER_04: The Constitution's promises are not fulfilled by the words we place on our walls, the principles we teach in our classrooms, or the ideals that we celebrate in public.
2:07:21
SPEAKER_04: They are fulfilled by what our institutions do when those promises are tested, and by what the rest of us refuse to let them abandon.
2:07:29
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
2:07:30
SPEAKER_04: No constitutional violations have occurred here.
2:07:33
SPEAKER_04: So I don't know what in the world this woman is going on about.
2:07:38
SPEAKER_04: In the meantime, one more.
2:07:39
SPEAKER_04: We'll get to this.
2:07:40
SPEAKER_04: And I have other items I want to dive into.
2:07:42
SPEAKER_04: There's a piece in the Minnesota Reformer this morning.
2:07:45
SPEAKER_04: It's written by uh Kayse Magan.
2:07:48
SPEAKER_04: Somali Minnesotans deserve fair governance, not scapegoating and not special protections.
2:07:55
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
2:07:55
SPEAKER_04: They're getting fair governance.
2:07:59
SPEAKER_04: They are.
2:08:00
SPEAKER_04: This goes back to just people that are talking about the situation and how that upsets other people.
2:08:04
SPEAKER_04: It's deflections.
2:08:06
SPEAKER_04: The article writer says Somali Minnesotans have been unfairly forced to answer the actions of a very few following a recent string of shootings involving Somali youth and continued revelations about the large-scale fraud schemes in our social service programs.
2:08:20
SPEAKER_04: Election season has only exacerbated this dynamic with cynical politicians deploying Somali Minnesotans as a political cudgel.
2:08:29
SPEAKER_04: Public safety and fraud should be central campaign issues in this election, and candidates for public office should be able to talk about these issues without scapegoating.
2:08:38
SPEAKER_04: Just excuses after excuses after excuses.
2:08:42
SPEAKER_04: He goes on to say, unfortunately, what we're seeing in Minnesota is yet another attempt by the right-wing propaganda machine to whip up hatred against Somali Americans.
2:08:50
SPEAKER_04: No, that's not what it is.
2:08:52
SPEAKER_04: What it is is trying to figure out ways to solve the problem.
2:08:55
SPEAKER_04: And we cannot figure out ways to solve the problem without identifying the root causes of the problem.
2:09:01
SPEAKER_04: There is a direct correlation to how the young gangbangers in the Somali community are fighting with each other, relating directly back to the different factions or clans as they are called within the Somali community and how they're at war with one another.
2:09:16
SPEAKER_04: It's those factions within Minneapolis that ended up having Omar Fateh lose the election and Minneapolis Man Baby Mom Jeans Jacob Fry win the election because he went and capitalized on those disagreements between those Somali factions.
2:09:32
SPEAKER_04: The individuals on the streets that are shooting at each other in this ridiculous gang warfare are simply perpetuating what's already happening in the Somali community.
2:09:42
SPEAKER_04: There's an article right here in front of me.
2:09:44
SPEAKER_04: This comes from, is it KSTP?
2:09:46
SPEAKER_04: My apologies here.
2:09:47
SPEAKER_04: Yes, it is KSTP.
2:09:49
SPEAKER_04: Court documents reveal more threads in the Metro gang violence.
2:09:53
SPEAKER_04: Connections between the suspects involved in the series of violent incidents in the Twin Cities, including shootings at the Eden Prairie High School and in Bloomington.
2:10:01
SPEAKER_04: The documents link the suspects to gang activities and a deadly shooting in Burnsville with evidence including videos and firearms and a connection to a gun used in the Burnsville murder.
2:10:12
SPEAKER_04: One suspect faces charges for carrying a pistol without a permit and is under investigation for his involvement.
2:10:18
SPEAKER_04: This is an incredibly unique situation.
2:10:20
SPEAKER_04: There may be circumstances wherein it is I want to say inappropriate, but it's unnecessary and unproductive to go and point to a particular community relating to a problem stemming from a portion of that community.
2:10:34
SPEAKER_04: But in this case, when it comes to the immigrant Somali community, there's nothing racist about that.
2:10:38
SPEAKER_04: It's just pointing to the facts.
2:10:40
SPEAKER_04: And the facts are there are these factions within those communities that have been at war with each other.
2:10:45
SPEAKER_04: And they continue to be at war with each other.
2:10:47
SPEAKER_04: So if we're going to go and deal with the problem, specifically in this case, of Somali gang activity, then we need to identify why these individuals are going and trying to shoot each other up.
2:10:57
SPEAKER_04: And it stems from upbringing, from ideology, and from the divisions that exist in those communities.
2:11:05
SPEAKER_04: To ignore all of that is to ignore it to our continued crime on the streets and inevitably to the doom of the people of Minnesota.
2:11:16
SPEAKER_04: In this piece from the Minnesota Reformer, they go on to say the president's recent social media post instructing Minnesotans to fight back against their uh Somali neighbors deserves condemnation.
2:11:27
SPEAKER_04: You know what?
2:11:27
SPEAKER_04: Stuff it.
2:11:29
SPEAKER_04: Keith Ellison, and I know this because I've seen the ad far too often while I'm prepping for the show, and I'm on YouTube, it always pops up.
2:11:36
SPEAKER_04: There's a video of Attorney General Thief Ellison walking down the street talking about how when ICE was on the streets and went and raided and this unconstitutional blah, blah, blah, Minnesotans rose up and fought back.
2:11:50
SPEAKER_04: Are you condemning that as well?
2:11:53
SPEAKER_04: You had uh Senate candidate, Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanagan, telling people to put their bodies On the line.
2:12:01
SPEAKER_04: And you're going to get upset at the president saying fight back?
2:12:05
SPEAKER_04: Give me a break already.
2:12:06
SPEAKER_04: Hide of hypocrisy.
2:12:08
SPEAKER_04: Oh, and then they spike in Operation Metro Surge came shortly after, because you got to go and do that.
2:12:14
SPEAKER_04: They go on to say Minnesota Republicans have been silent throughout this entire ordeal when not cheering on Trump's relentless focus on Minnesota and Somali Minnesotans.
2:12:24
SPEAKER_04: That's an absolute lie.
2:12:27
SPEAKER_04: You listen to what Republicans have had to say on the issue, and they've been looking at this factually, using common sense, rational commentary, trying to identify the problem and ways to go and solve it.
2:12:39
SPEAKER_04: The deflection and the political grandstanding is coming from the left who don't want to see this impacting their election.
2:12:47
SPEAKER_04: So they do the deflection.
2:12:48
SPEAKER_04: That's where the politics are in play.
2:12:53
SPEAKER_04: They say two things can be true at once.
2:12:55
SPEAKER_04: Our community is being unfairly targeted based on the actions of a few, and those actions, gun violence and the social service fraud, should be rooted out.
2:13:04
SPEAKER_04: The exploitation of these issues by bad faith actors for political gain only highlights why our elected officials should address these matters on a level of substance.
2:13:14
SPEAKER_04: No, the political gain is by those who are deflecting.
2:13:17
SPEAKER_04: And let me just give you one more item on this.
2:13:19
SPEAKER_04: So we'll get back to some more of your thoughts from the blaster line this morning at 651 at 964-0294.
2:13:26
SPEAKER_04: He talks about the youth gang problem and says this.
2:13:36
SPEAKER_04: Talking about, for example, the Hennepin County's attorney's office, right?
2:13:40
SPEAKER_04: And then he says they have a point.
2:13:42
SPEAKER_04: Most young people age out of crime, and far more should be done to invest in marginalized communities.
2:13:49
SPEAKER_04: Have we seen any examples of that on any mass level of these individuals, these young juveniles out there committing crimes who are aging out of doing the crime?
2:13:57
SPEAKER_04: Because it seems as if, from what we've seen in the community, you have the young individuals that are out there getting involved in gang activity.
2:14:05
SPEAKER_04: Well, it seems like you have the older adults.
2:14:07
SPEAKER_04: Well, it's not all of the community.
2:14:08
SPEAKER_04: Many of them are, and 90% of the fraud that we are dealt with is coming from the same community.
2:14:14
SPEAKER_04: Where are the examples of this aging out that they refer to?
2:14:19
SPEAKER_04: They say the second and third chances for offenders cannot come at the expense of public safety, so there is some, you know, an array of common sense in this.
2:14:28
SPEAKER_04: And the spiraling rounds of Somali uh youth, gun violence exploited by racist demagogues, risk undermining the project to make the criminal justice system even more humane.
2:14:43
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
2:14:45
SPEAKER_04: And then you get to this the overwhelming majority of Somali Minnesotans are law-abiding citizens who are just as horrified to see young men in our community engaging in senseless acts of violence.
2:14:54
SPEAKER_04: If that is the case, and I'm not saying it's not, but if that is the case, then you should probably get those individuals out there speaking in public, because I have yet to see or hear what they was just mentioned in that piece.
2:15:06
SPEAKER_04: Just last week I did see a press conference with individuals from the Somali community who were deflecting, upset that people were actually saying just the word Somali, it's where the whole parody came from.
2:15:18
SPEAKER_04: And then also excuses about how families are too overworked to tend to their children.
2:15:24
SPEAKER_04: So if there are individuals out there that are just as horrified in the young men in our community engaging in these senseless acts of violence and the fraud that's taking place, then you should probably get those people in front of cameras so that everybody else is aware that they exist, because at the moment I haven't seen them.
2:15:40
SPEAKER_04: Neither has anybody else.
2:15:44
SPEAKER_04: The end of the piece, it says, My community asks for what every citizen is owed, fair governance.
2:15:49
SPEAKER_04: That means without scapegoating.
2:15:51
SPEAKER_04: Too bad, so just words, sticks and stones, man.
2:15:54
SPEAKER_04: Get over it.
2:15:56
SPEAKER_04: But also without special prosecution from accountability.
2:15:59
SPEAKER_04: Investigate and prosecute without fear or favor, but don't blame an entire community.
2:16:03
SPEAKER_04: Scott Jennings on CNN had an amazing back and forth.
2:16:08
SPEAKER_04: And it's just so typical.
2:16:09
SPEAKER_04: Scott Jennings ends up making really good salient points among his host of other leftists on the panel, and yet they find one thing for them to go and jump on him, and they jump on it.
2:16:22
SPEAKER_04: In this case, it was his referring to Peggy Flanagan, I believe, wearing the Somali outfit, pandering to the Somali community because she does this all the time.
2:16:32
SPEAKER_04: She's done it with the LGBTQ community, she's done it with the indigenous population community, she's done it with the immigration community.
2:16:39
SPEAKER_04: She pander, pander, panders.
2:16:41
SPEAKER_04: Puts on whatever outfit she wants to put on in order to show her allegiance with them.
2:16:46
SPEAKER_04: So he points out that this was akin to the handmaid's tale, and oh, that was a bridge too far for everybody on the panel.
2:16:57
SPEAKER_31: It's very difficult.
2:16:59
SPEAKER_31: Of the population, they got the lieutenant governor up there dressed like the handmaid's tale.
2:17:04
SPEAKER_31: I mean, why do they cater?
2:17:06
SPEAKER_31: Why do they cater?
2:17:07
SPEAKER_36: Why do they cater to the case?
2:17:09
SPEAKER_31: It's just a small portion of the population because the Democrats put them at the center of the city.
2:17:14
SPEAKER_36: Just a second, just a second.
2:17:15
SPEAKER_36: Because I I don't I don't think it would be acceptable for you to make a statement like that about Orthodox Jews in Lakeland.
2:17:24
SPEAKER_36: Why on earth is it acceptable to make a statement like that?
2:17:28
SPEAKER_36: It's a white liberal woman dressing in the city.
2:17:30
SPEAKER_36: I'm just saying you are you're saying Republicans are denigrating the different relationships.
2:17:37
SPEAKER_36: She's for no reason other than the thing.
2:17:41
SPEAKER_36: I don't care about her.
2:17:42
SPEAKER_36: I'm talking you're the one who did it.
2:17:43
SPEAKER_36: You're describing the type of dress as the handmaid's tale, and you're doing that to denigrate the religion of people who literally pointing at it.
2:17:56
SPEAKER_36: Yes, Scott.
2:18:00
SPEAKER_04: These clowns.
2:18:01
SPEAKER_04: They're just clowns.
2:18:03
SPEAKER_04: They knew exactly what he was driving at.
2:18:06
SPEAKER_04: They knew exactly what he meant.
2:18:07
SPEAKER_04: It's the left that's co-opted the ridiculous handmade tail imagery for crying out loud.
2:18:16
SPEAKER_04: Oh, can't do that.
2:18:18
SPEAKER_04: This is gone too far, Scott Jennings.
2:18:20
SPEAKER_04: Just give me a break already.
2:18:23
SPEAKER_04: All right.
2:18:25
SPEAKER_04: 651-964-0294.
2:18:30
SPEAKER_04: Uh, let's talk a little fraud.
2:18:32
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
2:18:32
SPEAKER_04: Minnesota DHS says that it will uh use risk scores to prioritize uh fraud tips.
2:18:39
SPEAKER_04: I don't know how.
2:18:40
SPEAKER_04: At this point, I don't know what to think about this.
2:18:42
SPEAKER_04: I'll give you the details here in uh in just a moment.
2:18:45
SPEAKER_04: They're also seeking, we haven't had a chance to get to this story.
2:18:47
SPEAKER_04: I will give you some details.
2:18:48
SPEAKER_04: It's actually a holdover from late last week, if you can believe it.
2:18:51
SPEAKER_04: But Minnesota is looking to replace the fraud-ridden housing stabilization services with a new program.
2:18:57
SPEAKER_04: No, do not replace it with a new program.
2:19:00
SPEAKER_04: We don't know how much other fraud is being perpetuated.
2:19:02
SPEAKER_04: And you want to crank up another program?
2:19:05
SPEAKER_04: I mean, at a bare minimum, and this will probably take till after the election, but you shouldn't even be suggesting this until we get past the election.
2:19:12
SPEAKER_04: Because remember, if Amy McClobechar is elected, she's going to conduct an audit.
2:19:16
SPEAKER_04: Apparently, you can't conduct the audit until you're until you're elected.
2:19:19
SPEAKER_04: It's just, you know, it's a big mystery.
2:19:21
SPEAKER_04: It's a secret.
2:19:22
unknown: All right.
2:19:22
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2:25:20
SPEAKER_04: All right, let's go here briefly, and we're going to talk with Bill Walsh about the Golden Uh Turkey Award.
2:25:24
SPEAKER_04: It is golden turkey time.
2:25:26
SPEAKER_04: First off, though, Minnesota Human Services Agency says it will use risk scores to prioritize tips on suspected fraud.
2:25:34
SPEAKER_04: And I again I haven't quite reached a full conclusion on this yet.
2:25:38
SPEAKER_04: Republican State Representative Kristen Robbins says she's also been asking for information about what happens when people report suspected fraud, and she said she struggled to get answers.
2:25:48
SPEAKER_04: She says we need a place where citizens can go and feel like their concerns are heard and will be followed up on.
2:25:54
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
2:25:56
SPEAKER_04: The DHS website says that all tips start with a preliminary investigation, if warranted.
2:26:02
SPEAKER_04: The tip becomes a case assigned to an investigator.
2:26:04
SPEAKER_04: The site says the investigator decides whether the allegation of fraud is credible, and if so, DHS must refer it to criminal prosecution.
2:26:11
SPEAKER_04: The website also says that DHS is taking steps to proactively, to be proactively transparent, but revealing too much would compromise the investigations.
2:26:19
SPEAKER_04: Let me stop here just really quick.
2:26:21
SPEAKER_04: Aren't these all just things we should be doing anyhow?
2:26:23
SPEAKER_04: I mean, this is just how the process works.
2:26:25
SPEAKER_04: It just sounds like, hey, this is how we like if you ask if like if you asked me, hey John, when it comes to reporting fraud, how should uh the uh government go and handle it?
2:26:34
SPEAKER_04: I would have just said what they just said here.
2:26:36
SPEAKER_04: So I'm not sure how this is any different unless they're trying to make it sound like it's different.
2:26:41
SPEAKER_04: You know, I we'll we'll bring him in on this just because I saw he gave a facial reaction.
2:26:45
SPEAKER_04: Uh Bill Walsh, uh, doesn't it just sound like how we should be conducting our investigations into fraud?
2:26:50
SPEAKER_04: This doesn't sound all that special to me.
2:26:52
SPEAKER_46: Well, you're absolutely right.
2:26:53
SPEAKER_46: I mean, I I just think about I think about working for Governor Plenty back in the day.
2:26:58
SPEAKER_46: I mean, just if these things happened, that's that's what they would have done in the Plenty administration.
2:27:03
SPEAKER_46: Yeah.
2:27:03
SPEAKER_46: That would just the normal course of doing business.
2:27:06
SPEAKER_46: Do your job.
2:27:06
SPEAKER_46: Yeah, protect the taxpayer resources, go after fraud.
2:27:09
SPEAKER_46: I worked at the Department of Commerce.
2:27:10
SPEAKER_46: We went after all kinds of fraud there, you know, huge enforcement actions we got all the time.
2:27:15
SPEAKER_46: It's like, yeah, the obvious is the answer sometimes.
2:27:19
SPEAKER_04: Uh Kristen Robbins went on to say, well, first of all, accountability for the agencies to manage the services to make sure that they are using tax dollars as well, okay?
2:27:27
SPEAKER_04: Or tax dollars well.
2:27:29
SPEAKER_04: The person responsible for overseeing the fraud uh prevention is the DHS inspector, General James Clark.
2:27:35
SPEAKER_04: Uh so you get further into the story, and it basically is DH says that in response to the surge of fraud tips, it has hired an outside company to help develop a formula so that it can give a risk score to every tip received.
2:27:52
SPEAKER_04: DHS says that it will help prioritize the tips based on the identified risk factors and use investigative resources efficiently.
2:28:00
SPEAKER_04: Okay, I've made my decision.
2:28:01
SPEAKER_04: There's no need for this.
2:28:02
SPEAKER_04: Why are we going to outside consulting services?
2:28:04
SPEAKER_04: Can we not take care of this in in-house?
2:28:07
SPEAKER_04: You know, Bill, did you want to?
2:28:09
SPEAKER_46: There's only 4,500 or so employees at DHS.
2:28:12
SPEAKER_46: You know, surely some of them could be used, you know, repurposed, you know?
2:28:17
SPEAKER_04: Well, maybe we can find out what the uh cost of the outside company is, and then it could be one of the nominees for this year's Golden Turkey Award for 2026.
2:28:30
SPEAKER_46: That would be great.
2:28:30
SPEAKER_46: I'm a true professional.
2:28:31
SPEAKER_46: You see what I did there?
2:28:32
SPEAKER_46: I love it.
2:28:33
SPEAKER_04: So if you're watching on the live stream, by the way, uh, can you throw the can you throw the award back up?
2:28:38
SPEAKER_04: If you're watching on the live stream, you the the trophies in studio here, um, and it's filled with all this cash.
2:28:42
SPEAKER_04: I thought I I was convinced for like three days that was actual money in there.
2:28:46
SPEAKER_46: Yeah, we noticed some was missing.
2:28:48
SPEAKER_04: So I did not take any, I swear.
2:28:50
SPEAKER_04: I don't know where the cameras are at.
2:28:51
SPEAKER_04: So I had to look closely to see copy on the corner.
2:28:54
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, did they actually just did somebody get like$600 and just shove it into this to make it more authentic?
2:29:00
SPEAKER_46: No, my uh my friend Keith Hisdoll at Hisdal's trophy and wiper leg, little uh shameless plug there for him, built this trophy for us uh and did a really good job.
2:29:07
SPEAKER_46: I mean, he we told him, you know, go overboard, you know, make it make it ridiculous.
2:29:11
SPEAKER_46: And it's it's appropriately ridiculous for uh for appropriately ridiculous spending.
2:29:15
SPEAKER_46: Uh but uh yeah, Keith put this together a few years ago.
2:29:18
SPEAKER_46: Uh uh I went I went on uh the Souchray show years ago to uh announce the first Golden Turkey winner, and he's like, Where's the trophy?
2:29:25
SPEAKER_46: He just mocked me for not having a trophy.
2:29:27
SPEAKER_46: So you can't have that correct.
2:29:28
SPEAKER_46: We went back with the trophy then.
2:29:30
SPEAKER_04: Do you have a uh Bill Walsh?
2:29:32
SPEAKER_04: Do you I have the list here?
2:29:33
SPEAKER_04: Do you have one that's a favorite of yours?
2:29:35
SPEAKER_04: I know we go back to like 2020 on these.
2:29:38
SPEAKER_46: Well, that's an easy answer because the Southwest Light Rail Transit Project Um is in the got received a lifetime achievement award.
2:29:46
SPEAKER_46: That's right, in 2022.
2:29:48
SPEAKER_46: It got nominated so many times.
2:29:50
SPEAKER_46: It was just the obvious choice for so many years.
2:29:53
SPEAKER_46: It it could be an obvious choice this year because it's in the news again because they're finally going to open this thing uh next year.
2:29:59
SPEAKER_46: Uh so we'll have to do something special for that in the at the grand opening of the of the rail line eventually.
2:30:05
SPEAKER_46: Uh but yeah, we we had to put it in the Hall of Fame.
2:30:07
SPEAKER_46: I mean, it's the only one in the Hall of Fame, but it's a a lifetime achievement war, Southwest Light Rail, you know, the just the boondoggle of all boondoggles in Minnesota.
2:30:16
SPEAKER_46: Years behind schedule, billions over budget, um, and they just they couldn't stop themselves.
2:30:23
SPEAKER_46: They they had a couple of opportunities to say, you know what, this might not work.
2:30:26
SPEAKER_46: Like we the engineering doesn't work to build a tunnel between the two lakes, you know, over in Minneapolis.
2:30:32
SPEAKER_46: It just might not work.
2:30:33
SPEAKER_46: We should stop.
2:30:33
SPEAKER_46: But they can't stop.
2:30:34
SPEAKER_46: Once they get going too far in a project, they can't stop.
2:30:38
SPEAKER_46: So we gave it the Lifetime Achievement Award.
2:30:41
SPEAKER_04: I uh I uh was talking with uh ChatGPT, my AI Alex, this morning, and I asked him, Hey, can you give me the best example of the sunk cost of fallacy?
2:30:50
SPEAKER_04: And it went to the Lifetime Achievement Award for the Southwest uh Light Rail.
2:30:54
SPEAKER_04: That didn't that didn't really happen.
2:30:55
SPEAKER_46: No, it should though.
2:30:56
SPEAKER_04: It absolutely should.
2:30:57
SPEAKER_04: All right, let's talk about this year.
2:30:58
SPEAKER_04: So we got nominations.
2:31:00
SPEAKER_04: Uh you can nominate um your uh potential entries for the Golden Turkey Award.
2:31:05
SPEAKER_04: Uh, do you have any do you have any thoughts of your own right now?
2:31:07
SPEAKER_04: Like I don't even know what we appoint to at the moment.
2:31:10
SPEAKER_46: Usually this is a very unusual year.
2:31:11
SPEAKER_46: Yeah normally at this point we kind of know what the number one's gonna be, and we kind of know what's gonna win, even.
2:31:17
SPEAKER_46: Um over the years, it's been really obvious.
2:31:20
SPEAKER_46: Um this year I have nothing.
2:31:21
SPEAKER_46: I have nothing.
2:31:22
SPEAKER_46: Even prepping for this this morning, I started to figure out what what am I gonna come up with as the number one uh uh uh front runner.
2:31:28
SPEAKER_46: There really isn't one, which is why the nomination process is so important.
2:31:32
SPEAKER_46: We we if you've got an idea, if you see something, even locally, it could be it could be big, you know.
2:31:38
SPEAKER_46: We've given away like the state office building redo, which is which was you know a lot of money, half a billion dollars, the Southwest Light Rail, obviously, but it can also be very small.
2:31:46
SPEAKER_46: The dollar amount sometimes the aggravation level of the taxpayer goes up when the dollar amount is even smaller because they can kind of understand it.
2:31:55
SPEAKER_46: So this whole uh concept started with the famous hammer at the Department of Defense, you know, uh back in I think the 70s, uh Senator Proctor from Wisconsin complained about a hammer that you could buy at the hardware store, but in the Department of Defense it cost six hundred dollars.
2:32:11
SPEAKER_46: And people could understand that.
2:32:13
SPEAKER_46: What waste when the when the Department of Defense is paying$600 for a hammer that's getting used in the in the military somewhere, but everybody knows you can buy one for for eight bucks at the hardware store.
2:32:24
SPEAKER_46: So the the smaller the dollar amount, sometimes the greater the aggravation.
2:32:27
SPEAKER_46: People understand it better than a$500 million expenditure.
2:32:30
SPEAKER_04: Are there any um are there any parameters where, like, say you wanted to focus on something inside the city of Minneapolis, or does it need to be statewide?
2:32:38
SPEAKER_04: Does it matter?
2:32:38
SPEAKER_04: No, wide open.
2:32:40
SPEAKER_46: City, uh city, county, school board, uh, state funding, we don't not federal projects we wouldn't probably nominate, but any government spending in Minnesota is eligible uh for this program.
2:32:51
SPEAKER_46: Uh a couple places we'll look.
2:32:52
SPEAKER_46: The committee, we have a golden turkey committee, which John, you know, maybe we'll have to invite you to join the Golden Turkey Committee now that you're in the American.
2:32:58
SPEAKER_46: Oh, can I be Zar?
2:32:59
SPEAKER_04: I want to be czar.
2:33:00
SPEAKER_04: Can I be Tsar?
2:33:01
SPEAKER_46: I think that job is we don't have the committee right now is John Phelan and I, so just so you know.
2:33:06
SPEAKER_46: All right.
2:33:06
SPEAKER_46: Um, what are you guys should we?
2:33:08
SPEAKER_46: We will look we will look at like the bonding bill that passed recently because the state government bonding bills, they put a lot of pork in there, so there's a lot of hockey ranks, curling clubs, um, things that you wouldn't probably fund on their own, but when they're putting a big bill, they get funded.
2:33:21
SPEAKER_46: We always look at the the arts funding.
2:33:24
SPEAKER_46: Uh, there's a lot of uh the legacy fund, uh the constitutional amendment to give money to the outdoor heritage and the arts, and then they hand out these grants because they have to.
2:33:33
SPEAKER_46: The money is there, it's there to give away.
2:33:35
SPEAKER_46: Yep.
2:33:35
SPEAKER_46: They always there's there's always a lot of fodder for Golden Turkey in the arts funding.
2:33:40
SPEAKER_46: There's been several nominations over the years.
2:33:43
SPEAKER_46: Um, some silly things going on at the University of Minnesota or the Minsky campuses.
2:33:48
SPEAKER_46: Uh, those could be good places to look.
2:33:50
SPEAKER_46: So, yeah, we'll start looking, but the nominations from the public are really welcome.
2:33:54
SPEAKER_46: And I'll just say one thing, and we have to do this every year, although less every year.
2:33:58
SPEAKER_46: The Golden Turkey is a Awarded to a project, not a person.
2:34:02
SPEAKER_46: Okay.
2:34:02
SPEAKER_46: So it's kind of confusing because Golden Turkey, you know, it could be a person.
2:34:06
SPEAKER_46: So please don't nominate Tim Walls.
2:34:09
SPEAKER_46: We have to say this every year because every year since we've done it, Tim Walls has received the most nominations from the public over any other project or any other thing.
2:34:17
SPEAKER_46: And then they're kind of it's like, well, we can't really nominate him because it's not a project.
2:34:23
SPEAKER_46: I will say that a project he's related to last year won the uh, you know, they they spent$400,000 to prep him for a hearing in Congress.
2:34:32
SPEAKER_46: He was in Congress for 12 years.
2:34:34
SPEAKER_46: He he sat in committees.
2:34:36
SPEAKER_46: The last guy would need prep for that, but they spent$430,000 on legal bills to prep Tim Walls.
2:34:42
SPEAKER_46: So we kind of knew that would, if it got nominated, would probably win, and it did.
2:34:46
SPEAKER_04: It's too bad the uh the Rum River uh water park didn't move forward.
2:34:50
SPEAKER_04: That would have been a that would have been a great one.
2:34:52
SPEAKER_46: Well that that was nominated.
2:34:53
SPEAKER_46: Oh, was it?
2:34:54
SPEAKER_46: Oh, that was nominated last year.
2:34:56
SPEAKER_46: Absolutely.
2:34:56
SPEAKER_46: I think it I think it came in second place.
2:34:58
SPEAKER_46: Um and and there's that's another theme.
2:35:00
SPEAKER_46: A lot of nominees over the years return in the news.
2:35:05
SPEAKER_46: So we nominated the Rum River thing.
2:35:07
SPEAKER_46: We we we we did a great video out there next to the waterfall and said, can you imagine surfing here?
2:35:11
SPEAKER_46: We just we can't can't see it.
2:35:13
SPEAKER_46: Um but that was in litigation, and then then the the court threw that whole thing out.
2:35:18
SPEAKER_46: So that project has been canceled by the court, and we we wrote about this when it happened.
2:35:22
SPEAKER_46: It's like he probably read the the Golden Turkey nomination.
2:35:26
SPEAKER_46: I mean, I think we I think we um Golden Turkey helped create policy.
2:35:30
SPEAKER_46: I think that judge was influenced.
2:35:31
SPEAKER_46: I'm kidding, but by the by the golden, I hope I hope he'd read it, but probably didn't.
2:35:35
SPEAKER_46: But other things have come back.
2:35:37
SPEAKER_46: Um uh violence interrupters were nominated in 2022.
2:35:41
SPEAKER_46: Okay.
2:35:41
SPEAKER_46: Um, we saw this early.
2:35:43
SPEAKER_46: What a waste of money to to pay organizations to go out on the streets and interrupt violence.
2:35:47
SPEAKER_46: And we saw the boondoggle for what that was.
2:35:50
SPEAKER_46: Those are still in the news.
2:35:51
SPEAKER_46: They're still having problems with violence interrupters and and wasteful spending.
2:35:55
SPEAKER_46: So a lot of uh golden turkey things have uh come back.
2:35:58
SPEAKER_04: Got a uh comment that rolled into the blaster line at uh 651-964-0294.
2:36:03
SPEAKER_04: The business program to pay for businesses that closed during Metro Surge that was found to be filled with fraud instantly.
2:36:09
SPEAKER_04: So, I mean that's a that's a good one.
2:36:11
SPEAKER_04: That's a possibility.
2:36:11
SPEAKER_04: We're gonna run that from by the uh by the committee.
2:36:14
SPEAKER_46: So just on that, we just got a we we we submitted a data practices request to Hennepin County to get the nominal to get the applications and got a huge uh they fulfilled the request.
2:36:26
SPEAKER_46: Uh refreshingly, a data practice request refilled you know uh pretty fast from Hennepin County.
2:36:33
SPEAKER_46: So we're going through that data right now to see if it's the same players that you recognize uh committing fraud everywhere else.
2:36:39
SPEAKER_46: But that's a really good one.
2:36:40
SPEAKER_04: If you see a nomination for paid family medical leave, I don't know if it's appropriate, but that totally didn't come from me.
2:36:45
SPEAKER_04: I just want to say that up front.
2:36:46
SPEAKER_46: That want to make sure that could be that yeah, that absolutely, you know, is it state government spending?
2:36:51
SPEAKER_46: Yes.
2:36:51
SPEAKER_46: I mean, we're taxing and then we're spending.
2:36:54
SPEAKER_46: We seeded that whole fund with uh with billion with half a million dollars, I think, to get that up and running.
2:36:58
SPEAKER_46: So that's a good one, yeah.
2:37:00
SPEAKER_04: I'm still uh I'm still trying to get confirmation.
2:37:02
SPEAKER_04: I've seen this in a couple of spots, but I don't know if you've heard that some 40% the word is this is the rumor.
2:37:08
SPEAKER_04: The rumor is that some 40% of uh 911 call operators in Minneapolis have taken paid family medical leave.
2:37:15
SPEAKER_04: So I mean I mean I guess you can save stress, right?
2:37:17
SPEAKER_04: Stress induced from all the calls that that uh that uh that roll in that's a possibility.
2:37:21
SPEAKER_04: Uh AmericanExperiment.org is where people can go and submit their nominations, right?
2:37:25
SPEAKER_04: For the nominees.
2:37:25
SPEAKER_46: Yep, or golden turkeymn.com.
2:37:28
SPEAKER_46: Even better.
2:37:28
SPEAKER_46: It's got its own website.
2:37:29
SPEAKER_46: I mean, the Golden Turkey is it's it's big.
2:37:31
SPEAKER_46: You know, it's it's it's bigger than life, it has its own website.
2:37:34
SPEAKER_46: Uh yeah, right now we're in nomination season, so the whole month of October, uh, we're taking nominations.
2:37:40
SPEAKER_46: And we we've got hundreds of them.
2:37:42
SPEAKER_46: Populated spreadsheet, we'll count them up, we'll scour, look for some good ideas, and then uh the committee will meet end of October and come up with four nominees.
2:37:50
SPEAKER_46: Okay.
2:37:51
SPEAKER_46: And then um then the voting, we we it's it's a democracy, so we'll put it up to the to the to the public.
2:37:57
SPEAKER_46: Uh vote on what your um your top choice is for golden turkey, and then we'll announce it appropriately around Thanksgiving.
2:38:05
SPEAKER_46: So I assume I'll be back here on the show, hopefully, to plug the nominees and to uh announce the winner.
2:38:10
SPEAKER_04: Uh, you were talking about big according to the camera shot, the trophy is bigger than than than you are for crying out loud.
2:38:15
SPEAKER_04: I think it looks that looks huge based on the perspective.
2:38:17
SPEAKER_04: You could actually get into it.
2:38:18
SPEAKER_04: I think you could take all the money out and climb in.
2:38:20
SPEAKER_04: That would be fantastic.
2:38:21
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and he I don't know if it would let's go here to the uh blaster loop.
2:38:24
SPEAKER_46: Dances, too.
2:38:25
SPEAKER_46: I don't know if you noticed that.
2:38:26
SPEAKER_04: Oh, I didn't! Yeah, and now it's now I need to see how am I just not oh I just not how am I just not finding out about this?
2:38:32
SPEAKER_46: Yeah, well, you had to press the magic button.
2:38:34
SPEAKER_46: I had no idea.
2:38:34
SPEAKER_46: Let's go here.
2:38:35
SPEAKER_30: Hey John, TJ from Minneapolis, I had to say something about that turkey award that you give out.
2:38:40
SPEAKER_30: You said about the Rump River project, some surfing.
2:38:44
SPEAKER_30: The funny part about that is if they would have moved forward with that a couple years down the line, they would have to rip it all to rip the demo because that is a sacred area for the Dakotas and give way people to be here.
2:39:00
SPEAKER_30: That whole area of a Nova.
2:39:03
SPEAKER_30: It's just funny, they would destroy something else to build something only to have a rip down the tax dollars three different times.
2:39:10
SPEAKER_04: Uh, this one is timely.
2:39:12
SPEAKER_04: Now, you said we couldn't nominate a person, but I'm just gonna throw this in there since we're talking about the golden turkey and it's in reference to what we've been talking about quite a bit on the show this week.
2:39:20
SPEAKER_15: Golden Turkey Award uh nominee.
2:39:22
SPEAKER_15: Omar, she was worth$30 million, we thought.
2:39:25
SPEAKER_15: And now she's only worth a few dollars.
2:39:28
SPEAKER_15: Man, it's a money lost somewhere.
2:39:31
SPEAKER_46: See, it's hard.
2:39:32
SPEAKER_46: It's hard.
2:39:32
SPEAKER_46: You want to give it to a person.
2:39:33
SPEAKER_46: Can't do people.
2:39:34
SPEAKER_04: Can't do people.
2:39:35
SPEAKER_04: Somebody did say they did already nominate uh Payne Family Medical Leave.
2:39:38
SPEAKER_04: So somebody already got on top of it.
2:39:40
SPEAKER_46: I have not checked the spreadsheet in a couple of days, so we'll have to see what's coming in.
2:39:43
SPEAKER_46: Uh America, say golden turkeymn.com.
2:39:47
SPEAKER_46: Uh, or yeah, just find us on AmericanExperiment.org.
2:39:50
SPEAKER_46: Um Yeah, give us your nominations.
2:39:52
SPEAKER_46: I mean, uh this year it's wide open.
2:39:54
SPEAKER_46: There is no obvious winner, and that's very unusual for the for the program.
2:39:58
SPEAKER_46: So well, the committee has some work to do.
2:40:00
SPEAKER_04: Before I cut you loose, any thoughts on the ongoing controversy with uh Ilhan Omar?
2:40:05
SPEAKER_04: What do you think is going to shake out of this?
2:40:06
SPEAKER_04: She still is missing.
2:40:07
SPEAKER_04: I don't I asked the audience earlier at what point can we file a missing persons report.
2:40:11
SPEAKER_04: I don't know if we're there yet.
2:40:12
SPEAKER_04: I mean, Talarika was MIA for 12 days.
2:40:14
SPEAKER_04: She's only been really MIA since since Monday.
2:40:17
SPEAKER_04: But what do you think?
2:40:18
SPEAKER_04: Uh I think I think an indictment's inevitable.
2:40:20
SPEAKER_04: Do you think it's the same?
2:40:22
SPEAKER_46: Boy, I don't know.
2:40:22
SPEAKER_46: I watched a CNN segment last night that they have her, they have her in trouble.
2:40:27
SPEAKER_46: I mean, that CNN had no no recourse.
2:40:29
SPEAKER_46: I mean, they went down every avenue, statute of limitations, you know.
2:40:32
SPEAKER_46: Well, what about it's they're going after for political reasons?
2:40:35
SPEAKER_46: She can certainly accuse Trump of that.
2:40:36
SPEAKER_46: Well, sorry, this started in the Biden administration, so that legal theory won't work.
2:40:40
SPEAKER_46: They it really looks bad for her.
2:40:42
SPEAKER_46: Here's my thought of the day on this.
2:40:44
SPEAKER_46: Okay.
2:40:46
SPEAKER_46: Uh, this is the second time that the Minnesota media, our legacy media in Minnesota, is going to be shown to the nation to have dropped the ball.
2:40:55
SPEAKER_46: So Tim Walls runs for national office, and all these stories come out about Tim Walls, and everybody's going, why didn't we know about this?
2:41:02
SPEAKER_46: And those of us that have been working in the state for a long time say, well, we've been trying to tell you about Tim Walls, and and the media in Minnesota ignored it and covered up.
2:41:10
SPEAKER_46: And now Ilan Omar, same thing.
2:41:12
SPEAKER_46: Many of us have been trying to talk about Ilan Omar and some of these problems.
2:41:16
SPEAKER_46: Uh Bill Glon has written extensively, Scott Johnson at Power Line, and the Minnesota media covered for her again.
2:41:22
SPEAKER_46: So it's the second time the Minnesota media, they should be embarrassed.
2:41:26
SPEAKER_46: Will they be embarrassed?
2:41:27
SPEAKER_46: Are they capable of shame and embarrassment?
2:41:29
SPEAKER_46: Probably not.
2:41:29
SPEAKER_46: But I think that's a theme.
2:41:31
SPEAKER_46: It's like everyone's gonna look at Minnesota.
2:41:33
SPEAKER_46: How did she get to Congress?
2:41:34
SPEAKER_46: How did she keep getting re-elected?
2:41:36
SPEAKER_46: How come nobody had the curiosity to look into this until the Trump administration took took office and started looking into it?
2:41:43
SPEAKER_46: That's the story.
2:41:44
SPEAKER_46: That's a story, I think, is the lack of curiosity of our media in Minnesota again.
2:41:49
SPEAKER_04: No, I took it.
2:41:50
SPEAKER_04: Bill, I'm so glad you brought that up because it's an angle that we hadn't talked about yet and it's it's worth exploring.
2:41:56
SPEAKER_04: It's not exclusive to Minnesota, obviously.
2:41:58
SPEAKER_04: I, you know, I saw I saw similar, for lack of a better way to describe it, cover-ups doing that thing with my finger.
2:42:04
SPEAKER_04: I mean, that's pretty that's a pretty egregious term.
2:42:06
SPEAKER_04: But I did.
2:42:06
SPEAKER_04: I saw similar cover uh cover-ups when I was working in in southern Arizona.
2:42:11
SPEAKER_04: They weren't nearly as egregious as what we're dealing with here.
2:42:14
SPEAKER_04: You know, they were more like you know, the worst-kept secrets of uh sitting members of Congress, uh, you know, going out and getting drunk constantly at a particular bar and sheriffs' agents that were tasked with driving him home.
2:42:24
SPEAKER_04: I mean, it's bad, don't misunderstand, but you know, it didn't rise to the level of what we've seen here.
2:42:29
SPEAKER_04: But you're right that you make a great point that you did have, and certainly when when um Walls was appointed to B VP, uh, you know, that was the that was an eye-opening um experience for me to find out all these things, to talk about it, and then to have on the backside people coming in going, uh, John, we've uh known about this for a long, long time here.
2:42:48
SPEAKER_04: And and you're right, when it comes to when you look at you know, Scott Johnson over at Power Line, when you look at what Bill Glon has been doing, when you look at what others like Liz Collin and Alpha News, all of the stuff that's been coming out in the wake of all of this has been covered extensively here and just completely uh ignored by our mainstream media or dismissed outright.
2:43:06
SPEAKER_46: Right.
2:43:07
SPEAKER_46: And I uh covering for her, they're just I think it's just a lack of curiosity, or they get um she's inevitable, her persona is inevitable, so we can't touch her.
2:43:16
SPEAKER_46: Um, I mean, I think the national media's got to be scratching their heads again saying, why is this how did you guys not see this?
2:43:22
SPEAKER_46: Yeah, or investigate it, report it.
2:43:24
SPEAKER_46: It's pretty incredible.
2:43:25
SPEAKER_04: Uh we'll uh we'll leave you with this, uh Bill Walsh.
2:43:28
SPEAKER_04: This comment came in.
2:43:29
SPEAKER_04: I'll uh leave the company name out of it.
2:43:30
SPEAKER_04: Uh, but they asked if a particular radio company was run by the state because they know of a brand new studio that was built, but uh that never was really used.
2:43:38
SPEAKER_04: So thank you.
2:43:42
SPEAKER_04: Thank you for that.
2:43:42
SPEAKER_04: I uh I appreciate it.
2:43:44
SPEAKER_04: Well, it was used for a short period of time.
2:43:46
SPEAKER_04: It's not being used right now.
2:43:48
SPEAKER_04: Boondoggle.
2:43:49
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, pretty much.
2:43:50
SPEAKER_04: All right, uh Bill Walsh, uh thank you.
2:43:52
SPEAKER_04: Uh Golden Turkey, everybody go and uh put your nominees in golden turkeymn.com.
2:43:57
SPEAKER_04: I got that right, right?
2:43:58
SPEAKER_04: Yes, awesome.
2:43:58
SPEAKER_04: I bet you better have gotten that right.
2:44:00
SPEAKER_04: All right, I'll see you once the show wraps up here, my friend.
2:44:02
SPEAKER_04: Uh let's go uh let's go here.
2:44:04
SPEAKER_04: I didn't mention a moment ago, Minnesota Department of Human Services planning to replace the fraud-ridden house stabilization services program with a new initiative by 2028.
2:44:14
SPEAKER_04: Okay, so we'll have all the time in the world to put all the necessary safeguards in so we don't have a repeat of what happened before.
2:44:19
SPEAKER_04: HSS, a Medicaid program designed to assist with housing navigation for vulnerable populations, was shut down due to widespread fraud.
2:44:27
SPEAKER_04: The new program will be developed with enhanced integrity measures that will require approval from the Minnesota legislature, the federal centers for Medicare and Medicaid services.
2:44:36
SPEAKER_04: I and again, is this even necessary?
2:44:38
SPEAKER_04: They shut down all of it.
2:44:41
SPEAKER_04: And I know that there have been individuals that were impacted by this shutting down of the house stabilization services.
2:44:48
SPEAKER_04: Like, I get that.
2:44:50
SPEAKER_04: But at the same time, my understanding is a lot of those people have been able to go and find other services to fill in the stop gap of what was lost with the canceling of the health and human services.
2:45:02
SPEAKER_04: And as somebody else had said, like, no, no, no, no more.
2:45:06
SPEAKER_04: No more.
2:45:07
SPEAKER_04: And I'm I'm with them on this.
2:45:09
SPEAKER_04: The Minnesota Department of Human Services planning to replace HSS.
2:45:14
SPEAKER_04: New program, 2028.
2:45:16
SPEAKER_04: Before the program began, the Department of Human Services predicted it would cost about$2.6 million a year at its peak in 2024.
2:45:23
SPEAKER_04: The state paid more than$104 million, over 700 providers, many of whom were not actually providing services, according to federal prosecutors.
2:45:33
SPEAKER_04: The exponential growth in HSS mirrors the similar growth in other Medicaid services deemed vulnerable to fraud, waste, and abuse by the Walls administration, spending on that basket of programs more than doubled in five years.
2:45:47
SPEAKER_04: No, I'm gonna argue that it's not even necessary.
2:45:51
SPEAKER_04: That's one thing that I expected was going to happen with all of this examination of the fraud was that once you begin to look at the programs, you're gonna see that the many of these programs didn't even need to be in place in the first place.
2:46:03
SPEAKER_04: There were other ways in which people could go and take advantage of it.
2:46:06
SPEAKER_04: That's why when it comes back to paid family medical leave, why I that one is probably just the most egregious piece of legislature that the DFL ever passed.
2:46:17
SPEAKER_04: You know, I mean, and that's putting that's putting aside the the abortion, uh, you know, the the abortion laws here in the state.
2:46:24
SPEAKER_04: Understand, and we're talking about services and not talking about um the murdering of of children, which that certainly uh is, in my opinion.
2:46:32
SPEAKER_04: But when it comes to paid family medical leave, again, a program that was completely unnecessary, people were able to get as much time as they needed to get off relative to whatever they needed to get time off for.
2:46:40
SPEAKER_04: There was absolutely no need for this at all.
2:46:43
SPEAKER_04: You know, it's not like uh one of the most famous quotes that I saw, and it was brilliant was Steve Jobs and Apple, he was able to go and create products that people didn't know that they could live without.
2:46:54
SPEAKER_04: That's the mentality the DFL takes.
2:46:56
SPEAKER_04: And yet it's not voluntary.
2:46:58
SPEAKER_04: That's the problem.
2:46:59
SPEAKER_04: People aren't forcing you to go and buy smartphones, they're forcing you to have to go and paid into family uh paid family medical leave.
2:47:05
SPEAKER_04: So, okay, I've said my piece on that.
2:47:07
SPEAKER_04: Bah.
2:47:09
SPEAKER_04: Frustrates me.
2:47:11
SPEAKER_04: Let's talk about a woman who's been convicted of fraud.
2:47:14
SPEAKER_04: A federal jury recently convicted a 45-year-old Charmaine Meadows of three counts of uh healthcare fraud.
2:47:21
SPEAKER_04: You know, I had a guy, a buddy of mine growing up in the uh 90s.
2:47:24
SPEAKER_04: His name was Forrest Meadows.
2:47:27
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
2:47:28
SPEAKER_04: I think he changed it.
2:47:29
SPEAKER_04: He's in one shot on Independence Day, by the way.
2:47:32
SPEAKER_04: He was a wannabe actor.
2:47:33
SPEAKER_04: And there's one shot in Independence Day towards the beginning of the film when they're at the uh news agency when they're all watching the watching the television footage of the arrival of the aliens, and it pans across the group of individuals captivated by what they're seeing on screen.
2:47:47
SPEAKER_04: Forrest is sitting right there up in front.
2:47:49
SPEAKER_04: Looking pretty ridiculous, too.
2:47:50
SPEAKER_04: He had he was just the whitest of white dudes, Southern California white dudes, and he had these little tiny dreads, was very popular back in the early 90s.
2:47:57
SPEAKER_04: He looks ridiculous.
2:47:58
SPEAKER_04: Anyways, sorry.
2:47:59
SPEAKER_04: That was a uh squirrel uh moment, and I deserve the uh thanks.
2:48:05
SPEAKER_04: The Lake Elmo woman has been convicted of defrauding Minnesota's now defunct Medicaid housing program.
2:48:10
SPEAKER_04: Wasn't I just talking about that?
2:48:13
SPEAKER_04: For$3.6 million.
2:48:16
SPEAKER_04: On Wednesday, the federal grand jury convicted her, three counts of healthcare fraud.
2:48:20
SPEAKER_04: Meadows enrolled her company in the state's housing stabilization services.
2:48:23
SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
2:48:23
SPEAKER_04: Yes, I was right.
2:48:24
SPEAKER_04: Claiming to provide transitional housing services to people experiencing homelessness.
2:48:28
SPEAKER_04: You know, producer Devin, that's probably why I had this story attached to the other story, because they were connected.
2:48:33
SPEAKER_04: It's probably why I did that.
2:48:35
SPEAKER_04: I've been sitting on these for a while now, so they've been in the stack for a bit.
2:48:38
SPEAKER_04: I'm just now getting to it.
2:48:39
SPEAKER_04: Meadows encouraged her employees to bill for the maximum number of hours allowed under the program, even if the services were never provided.
2:48:48
SPEAKER_04: The company billed for in-person services, supposedly provided by employees who lived in other states or countries.
2:48:56
SPEAKER_04: It also claimed to provide services to people who could not have received them because they were in the hospital.
2:49:02
SPEAKER_04: No shame, man.
2:49:03
SPEAKER_04: No shame at all.
2:49:05
SPEAKER_04: Beneficiaries testified at Meadows' trial that they received little to no services from the company.
2:49:13
SPEAKER_04: In total.
2:49:15
SPEAKER_04: Oh, excuse me.
2:49:16
SPEAKER_04: Evidence presented at the trial pointed out that Meadows paid employees in other countries, including the Philippines, six dollars an hour.
2:49:27
SPEAKER_04: In total, HSS paid Meadows company more than$3.6 million over roughly about four or five years.
2:49:34
SPEAKER_04: The money went into accounts that Meadows had exclusive control over, according to court documents.
2:49:40
SPEAKER_04: The defendant chose to defraud millions from a program meant to help vulnerable Minnesotans, according to U.S.
2:49:46
SPEAKER_04: Attorney Daniel Rosen.
2:49:48
SPEAKER_04: My office is committed to prosecuting those who steal from the American taxpayer.
2:49:51
SPEAKER_04: She'll be sentenced at a later date.
2:49:53
SPEAKER_04: And as we mentioned, that program was terminated last year over the scrutiny because of fraud.
2:49:58
SPEAKER_04: The federal probe was even launched after payments rose from$2.5 million in 2020, the year Minnesota became the first state to offer Medicaid funding for uh for stabilization.
2:50:08
SPEAKER_04: Four years later, it was$100 million.
2:50:13
SPEAKER_04: That's right.
2:50:15
SPEAKER_04: Uh, let's see.
2:50:16
SPEAKER_04: Oh, somebody wrote in regarding the Golden Turkey Award.
2:50:19
SPEAKER_04: I will be nominating my infamous mayor, Queen of the Wiener Wednesday, for us taxpayers covering her legal fees for misconduct.
2:50:27
SPEAKER_04: That's a good one.
2:50:29
SPEAKER_04: I like that.
2:50:31
SPEAKER_04: Somebody else wrote in regarding Ilhan Omar.
2:50:33
SPEAKER_04: You all may have discussed it today already, but I think the most disturbing thing about the whole Ilhan Omar situation is the fact that she is uh in the U.S.
2:50:41
SPEAKER_04: Congress and may not be a U.S.
2:50:42
SPEAKER_04: citizen.
2:50:42
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I think that's just a general concern for everybody on that.
2:50:48
SPEAKER_04: You're certainly not uh not alone.
2:50:51
SPEAKER_04: All right, uh let's go here.
2:50:52
SPEAKER_04: We got some time.
2:50:54
SPEAKER_04: So here's how it started.
2:50:55
SPEAKER_04: The Minneapolis City Council president, Elliot Payne, and council minority leader Robin Wansley proposed eliminating the Office of Community Safety and the Performance Management and Innovation Department earlier this week, citing a lack of efficiency.
2:51:12
SPEAKER_04: The proposal, which also includes consolidating the racial equity, inclusion, and belonging department, will be considered by the council coming up on the 29th of this month.
2:51:24
SPEAKER_04: They were unsustainable and unnecessary.
2:51:28
SPEAKER_04: This is why you have council members that are out there proposing to get rid of this.
2:51:32
SPEAKER_04: I mean, listen, that second one, the racial equity, inclusion, and belonging department.
2:51:37
SPEAKER_04: Come on.
2:51:39
SPEAKER_04: Who are we?
2:51:41
SPEAKER_04: Who are we kidding?
2:51:42
SPEAKER_04: So this is how it started.
2:51:45
SPEAKER_04: So you have two individuals that are actually offering up, you know, a bit of sanity, even though, you know, and again, broken clocks being right twice a day at all.
2:51:53
SPEAKER_04: Now you have the mayor pushing back on calls to end the controversial Minneapolis department.
2:51:59
SPEAKER_04: Right, that's right.
2:52:00
SPEAKER_04: Minneapolis man, maybe mayor mom, Jeans Jacob Fry sharing his uh thoughts on the council's action, the office, one that these council members advocated for manages services like mental health response, violence prevention, and police reform.
2:52:14
SPEAKER_04: If the council members want these services in jeopardy, that's on them.
2:52:18
SPEAKER_04: We were providing these services through other means before all of this.
2:52:21
SPEAKER_04: So it's not necessary.
2:52:23
SPEAKER_04: It's like a common thread going on here, huh?
2:52:25
SPEAKER_04: Mm-hmm.
2:52:26
SPEAKER_04: This uh wholesale elimination without a plan combined with other proposed cuts to MPD is not a serious proposal when it comes to public safety in our city.
2:52:34
SPEAKER_04: It wasn't serious in the first place in the creation of these.
2:52:38
SPEAKER_04: So KSTP had a chance uh to uh talk with, I believe, Elliot Payne regarding this issue.
2:52:44
SPEAKER_04: Reporter Ben Henry spoke with the Minneapolis City Council president about the future of the uh community office of community safety.
2:52:52
SPEAKER_04: Here's a bit of that reporting from uh Channel 5.
2:52:57
SPEAKER_32: Calls to end the Office of Community Safety are growing, but so is the pushback, including from the mayor.
2:53:04
SPEAKER_32: We also have questions for the city council president about his plan.
2:53:08
SPEAKER_32: What happens to those essential departments?
2:53:10
SPEAKER_32: How much could this save taxpayers?
2:53:12
SPEAKER_32: Here are some of those questions and answers.
2:53:15
SPEAKER_40: What are the plans for these essential life-saving departments if OCS all just like the 150-year history of the city, each of those departments would report directly to the mayor?
2:53:27
SPEAKER_32: Mayor Jacob Fry, not commenting on camera, but writing in part, OCS has services like mental health response, violence prevention, and police reform.
2:53:37
SPEAKER_32: If council members want these services in jeopardy, that's on them.
2:53:40
SPEAKER_32: Do you think that's fair?
2:53:42
SPEAKER_40: I I don't think that's fair because, like I said, each one of these departments that exist underneath the Office of Community Safety has leaders in their own right, and we have to identify where those opportunities are to get some better operational efficiencies and just a better return on taxpayer dollars.
2:54:00
SPEAKER_32: On that note, how much do you see this move goes through saving taxpayers?
2:54:04
SPEAKER_40: I do anticipate there being some cost savings, but part of this is just also about a better delivery model for the government structure.
2:54:11
SPEAKER_32: Is this a move by the council just to regain some of that power back from the mayor?
2:54:16
SPEAKER_40: I don't think this is really a power play as such.
2:54:18
SPEAKER_40: This is just an analysis of what's working and what's not working under the new government structure.
2:54:25
SPEAKER_04: So we'll um keep an eye on this particular story and what ends up happening uh with this uh community uh safety program.
2:54:33
SPEAKER_04: It's clear if you've got city council members that are now turning against this, that they understand what a waste of an expenditure uh this uh this is.
2:54:42
SPEAKER_04: Because it's surprising when you ever see any level of common sense.
2:54:46
SPEAKER_04: Elliot Payne aside, he he tends to, you know, he's an individual who, as we talk about St.
2:54:51
SPEAKER_04: Paul, and I actually have a St.
2:54:52
SPEAKER_04: Paul story that we'll wrap up here in uh just a moment on the show.
2:54:56
SPEAKER_04: But he's a really good example of if you have, even though he's aligned with the left, if you have more people like that, you can actually still go and run the city effectively, even though we're gonna find ourselves in disagreement on a number of different policy issues.
2:55:10
SPEAKER_04: When it comes to the safety and security of a metropolitan area or any city, that should go well beyond politics.
2:55:16
SPEAKER_04: And St.
2:55:16
SPEAKER_04: Paul is the example of that.
2:55:18
SPEAKER_04: When you look at the comparisons of the carjackings, window break-ins, uh, the number of law enforcement officers they have uh per the population in that area, and you compare it to Minneapolis, you have two sets of individuals that essentially come from the same party.
2:55:34
SPEAKER_04: One, though, actually takes public safety somewhat seriously, despite having a weirdo for a for a mayor, and the other one clearly doesn't, and that bears out in the crime rates and the amount of um you know violence that's been taking place and crime within the those two cities.
2:55:49
SPEAKER_04: So before I get to that, uh, let's end here.
2:55:52
SPEAKER_04: Uh I had this for much earlier in the show.
2:55:54
SPEAKER_04: I won't have a chance to get to it on tomorrow's show with Freedom Friday.
2:55:58
SPEAKER_04: So um we'll go ahead and Dive into it here.
2:56:00
SPEAKER_04: So actually, I saved a good one for the for the very end of the show.
2:56:03
SPEAKER_04: And then I have one St.
2:56:04
SPEAKER_04: Paul story to share with you.
2:56:05
SPEAKER_04: So Rochelle Olson, Rochelle, Rochelle, Minneapolis Star Tribune columnist, has a piece out.
2:56:14
SPEAKER_04: Minnesota judgers uh judges are showing what it takes to fight Trumpeism.
2:56:20
SPEAKER_04: Trumpetism, excuse me, not Trumpiism, Trumpism.
2:56:24
SPEAKER_04: U.S.
2:56:24
SPEAKER_04: District Court Judge Patrick Schlitz is a nationally known legal conservative.
2:56:29
SPEAKER_04: Why has he joined the fight against president's policies?
2:56:34
SPEAKER_04: Writes Rochelle, Rochelle Olson.
2:56:37
SPEAKER_04: Because Trump derangement syndrome can impact, and sometimes it's even worse, individuals who align themselves with conservatism as well.
2:56:44
SPEAKER_04: She starts the piece off with this, though.
2:56:46
SPEAKER_04: I'll share with you some of the highlights.
2:56:47
SPEAKER_04: Minnesota Republicans are trying to reap anger over the state's social services fraud while remaining mum on the other fraudster in the White House.
2:56:57
SPEAKER_04: How is Trump a fraud?
2:57:00
SPEAKER_04: These leftists, like Rochelle, Rochelle Olson, love to take the I don't like him.
2:57:09
SPEAKER_04: And so I'm gonna go ahead and label him as being a fraud, even though they don't have any good examples of that.
2:57:15
SPEAKER_04: And she tries.
2:57:16
SPEAKER_04: Don't misunderstand, she tries.
2:57:18
SPEAKER_04: She goes and says, I could enumerate Trump's egregious violations of democratic norms.
2:57:24
SPEAKER_04: Okay, that's not fraud, it's a difference of opinion.
2:57:27
SPEAKER_04: From undermining elections, he hasn't done that.
2:57:30
SPEAKER_04: That's subjective.
2:57:32
SPEAKER_04: His unconscionable support for Russia over Ukraine, again, it's a difference of opinion.
2:57:38
SPEAKER_04: It's not true.
2:57:39
SPEAKER_04: And even if so, that doesn't mean that he's a fraud or in violation of anything.
2:57:43
SPEAKER_04: It just means that you're not in support of something that he's in support of.
2:57:47
SPEAKER_04: So far, you're striking out on every level.
2:57:50
SPEAKER_04: But someone with far more gravitas than I have, than I have, is fighting Trump from the inside.
2:57:55
SPEAKER_04: And that's U.S.
2:57:56
SPEAKER_04: District Court Judge Patrick Schlitz.
2:57:58
SPEAKER_04: There's every argument to make that he's using his bench for judicial activism in all of this.
2:58:06
SPEAKER_04: He says earlier this uh this month he spoke at the University of St.
2:58:09
SPEAKER_04: Thomas Law Journalism Symposium.
2:58:14
SPEAKER_04: Raise your hand if you'd rather watch a drying paint than to go to the University of St.
2:58:18
SPEAKER_04: Thomas Law Journalism Symposium.
2:58:22
SPEAKER_04: ICE versus the states was the subject.
2:58:25
SPEAKER_04: State law remedies for federal lawlessness.
2:58:29
SPEAKER_04: What about the lawlessness that brought ICE to Minneapolis with the fraud and the criminal illegal aliens?
2:58:36
SPEAKER_04: That just gets completely ignored in all of this, like it always does.
2:58:40
SPEAKER_04: Schlitz was interviewed by Michael Stokes Paulson.
2:58:43
SPEAKER_04: He explained at St.
2:58:44
SPEAKER_04: Thomas that when Trump's administration flooded the state with 3,000 federal agents last winter, they did nothing to protect the due process of those affected.
2:58:53
SPEAKER_04: Did he bother to explain, again, the federal agents' reasons and the legal standing they had to attempt the arrest of criminal illegal aliens?
2:59:03
SPEAKER_04: Was that a part of this at all?
2:59:05
SPEAKER_04: Or was that all just left off to the side for the sake of putting forward their activist arguments?
2:59:12
SPEAKER_04: Just asking questions.
2:59:14
SPEAKER_04: Generally, U.S.
2:59:15
SPEAKER_04: district court judges have little interaction with immigration law, but they do act on habeas corpus petitions, which are filed to claim unlawful detentions, which is what they're focusing on.
2:59:26
SPEAKER_04: These petitions came in at all hours.
2:59:28
SPEAKER_04: Under normal circumstances, Schlitz said such petitions are filed by people who have already been convicted or in prison.
2:59:34
SPEAKER_04: This wasn't the case with the immigration detainees.
2:59:37
SPEAKER_04: Well, yeah, and you had circumstances where you had a lot more individuals being arrested because of Operation Metro Surge, and therefore there was more of a need to move forward with these various petitions.
2:59:47
SPEAKER_04: This isn't rocket, this isn't rocket science.
2:59:49
SPEAKER_04: I'm not a judge, but even I can see this just from the reporting that we've covered on the show.
2:59:53
SPEAKER_04: She goes on to say, in addition, the federal government was violating judicial orders by the dozens, which is extremely rare.
3:00:00
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
3:00:02
SPEAKER_04: And how many of those got overturned, by the way?
3:00:04
SPEAKER_04: Was there talk about that?
3:00:05
SPEAKER_04: Did you go through the list of all the different ways the other activist judges went to go and block President Donald Trump and ICE and their lawful actions, but then had it overturned when they got to more sensible judges that actually respected the rule of law and weren't looking at this through a political lens.
3:00:21
SPEAKER_04: The Trump administration also went after state officials, subpoenaeing Walls, Ellison, Minneapolis, Man, Baby Mayor, Mom Jeans, Jacob Fry.
3:00:29
SPEAKER_04: I said that, not her.
3:00:30
SPEAKER_04: And St.
3:00:31
SPEAKER_04: Paul, mayor, horny, her, among others.
3:00:33
SPEAKER_04: I think that recent uh events may have shown that the subpoenas were probably appropriate.
3:00:39
SPEAKER_04: Uh the judge, however, described those as extremely broad, oh no, and asking for anything that they had to do with the enforcement of immigration laws, every email, every letter, every text messages.
3:00:49
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, of course they did.
3:00:51
SPEAKER_04: Because they needed to go and establish the fact of what we all saw with our own eyes.
3:00:54
SPEAKER_04: And that was the individuals that were being subpoenaed by the federal government were all individuals that were out grandstanding in front of the cameras, telling people to go out and get in the way of lawful law enforcement.
3:01:04
SPEAKER_04: They couched a lot of this with just go and observe with your cell phones.
3:01:08
SPEAKER_04: But we all know what they were talking about.
3:01:10
SPEAKER_04: Keith Ellison, as I mentioned earlier in the show, has an ad right now talking about how when Minneapolis was invaded by immigrations and customs enforcement, our people stood up and they fought back.
3:01:24
SPEAKER_04: At this point, Paulson noted that the integrity and courage it took for Schlitz to stand up to Trump's efforts at intimidation.
3:01:31
SPEAKER_04: Oh, so much courage to push back on Trump.
3:01:34
SPEAKER_04: So few people push back on Trump.
3:01:35
SPEAKER_04: It requires such a level of courage to go and do that because people are so afraid.
3:01:41
SPEAKER_04: Whatever.
3:01:43
SPEAKER_04: You wonder why the readership of the Star Tribune has been dwindling.
3:01:47
SPEAKER_04: Throughout his comments, uh Schlitz was starting was startingly direct about the depth of the existential threat the Trump administration poses.
3:01:57
SPEAKER_04: See, that's what you say when you're basing your commentary off of feelings and not facts.
3:02:04
SPEAKER_04: You go with, it was an existential threat.
3:02:08
SPEAKER_04: As a judge, Rochelle Rochelle Olson goes on to say, Schlitz said he's not merely a right but a duty to speak out against the threats to the rule of law, and I'm doing so right now.
3:02:19
SPEAKER_04: Ooh tough judge.
3:02:24
SPEAKER_04: That's what courage looks like.
3:02:26
SPEAKER_04: Remember his words, writes Rochelle Rochelle Olson.
3:02:30
SPEAKER_04: Remember as well the candidates, when faced with the truth from Schlitz still seeks Trump's endorsement and remain unwilling to criticize him.
3:02:40
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
3:02:41
SPEAKER_04: Because they support him.
3:02:42
SPEAKER_04: Shocking.
3:02:43
SPEAKER_04: There are individuals out there that actually like President Donald Trump.
3:02:47
unknown: Yeah.
3:02:48
SPEAKER_04: Shouldn't come as a surprise.
3:02:49
SPEAKER_04: But it is when you have to find something to bring about an end to your peace and try to provide something of substance.
3:02:56
SPEAKER_04: They just they don't criticize him.
3:02:58
SPEAKER_04: Horrible people.
3:02:59
SPEAKER_04: Rochelle Rochelle Olson ends on this.
3:03:01
SPEAKER_04: Minnesota doesn't need Trump foot soldiers in the U.S.
3:03:04
SPEAKER_04: Senate or any statewide offices.
3:03:06
SPEAKER_04: We need more leaders like Schlitz with the courage to choose truth-telling over comfort and politics.
3:03:12
SPEAKER_04: You know, it should work, it sure would be nice if we saw leftists like Rochelle Rochelle Olson cover specifically all the individuals who were arrested and detained by immigrations and customs enforcement and what they were all accused of at the time.
3:03:26
SPEAKER_04: That would be uh some really compelling, at least, you know, just to balance things out for crying out loud.
3:03:31
SPEAKER_04: Because all that it is is a continued ridiculous, non nonsensical, ridiculous, irrational narrative regarding immigrations and customs enforcement and what they did during Operation Metro Surge.
3:03:43
SPEAKER_04: And I've said it before and I'll say it again.
3:03:45
SPEAKER_04: If you needed any example of how none of this needed to happen here in Minneapolis, in Minnesota during Operation Metro Surge, and this was all done intentionally by the leftists so that they could use it just like they are now, just like Governor Dimwalls and his Truth Council is going to release their report in the coming weeks, the week before.
3:04:04
SPEAKER_04: You watch, the week before people go and vote fully on Election Day, they're going to drop that Truth Council report, and it's going to be the most egregious examination lacking all the context regarding what happened during Operation Metro Surge, just like they went and treated January 6th, without going and giving the entirety of the context of what actually took place on that day.
3:04:27
SPEAKER_04: And my big prediction on that is that with the downplaying of the amount of money that's gone out the door because of fraud, wherein your local media outlets want to focus on just the number attached to people that were prosecuted, they've done that intentionally so that when that Truth Council Operation Metro Surge report is released, they're gonna have concocted some sort of number far beyond that number being put out regarding fraud in the media to say, and Operation Metro Surge costs way more money than the fraud, so you should really stick it to the Republicans because of that.
3:04:59
SPEAKER_04: All right, let's wrap up on this real quick.
3:05:03
SPEAKER_04: Rideshare's not over yet, in terms of the controversies.
3:05:06
SPEAKER_04: Minneapolis and St.
3:05:07
SPEAKER_04: Paul are taking different approaches to autonomous vehicle technology.
3:05:11
SPEAKER_04: Minneapolis passed an ordinance requiring a human safety monitor and driverless vehicles, which was vetoed by Minneapolis Man, Baby Mayor, Mom Jeans Jacob Fry.
3:05:21
SPEAKER_04: St.
3:05:21
SPEAKER_04: Paul, on the other hand, approved a study to examine the impact of driverless cars on public transportation, rideshare drivers, and public safety before implementing any uh regulations.
3:05:32
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3:07:22
SPEAKER_15: Wait, this is a self-driving car?
3:07:25
SPEAKER_15: How does it even know what to do?
3:07:28
SPEAKER_35: You know, and then you can use the Waymo.
3:07:30
SPEAKER_35: You don't know which way they may go or may not go.
3:07:34
SPEAKER_35: Just get in, okay?
3:07:35
SPEAKER_35: There's way more ways than the way that you got.
3:07:38
SPEAKER_35: So let's go with those ways.
3:07:40
SPEAKER_35: The end.
3:07:47
SPEAKER_09: Since they grip the steam.
3:07:51
SPEAKER_09: Here they come, the autonomous vehicles driven by the ghosts of the digital realm.
3:07:58
SPEAKER_08: The humans cry out on the driverless machine hell, and I'm gonna need for the city.
3:08:02
SPEAKER_08: So you know you can use the way you don't know which way they make up, or make the goals.
3:08:10
SPEAKER_08: There's a way more ways than the way that you got, so let's go.
3:08:27
SPEAKER_07: The autonomous card is cut there is the base.
3:08:36
SPEAKER_07: The salary of a minimum wage goes to be paid.
3:08:40
SPEAKER_07: The danger is the state to be able to be free from the badges.
3:10:32
SPEAKER_35: You know, and then you can use the way you don't know which way they may go.
3:10:38
SPEAKER_35: Just get in, okay?
3:10:39
SPEAKER_35: There's a way more ways than the way that you got it.
3:10:42
SPEAKER_35: So let's go with those ways.