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  Speaker 1: So we can talk about some positional archetype changes that
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  Speaker 1: we might and probably will see in the Buffalo Bill's
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  Speaker 1: defense under Jim Leonard and need to see likely need
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  Speaker 1: to see in the Buffalo Bills defense under Jim Leonard.
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  Speaker 1: work in progress in a good way. But I appreciate
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  Speaker 1: you knowing or noticing that the tree is gone. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to dive into a fun conversation in tonight's
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  Speaker 1: episode positional archetypes archetype changes in the Buffalo Bills defense
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  Speaker 1: under Jim Leonard. If you are a regular or sometimes
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  Speaker 1: viewer of this show or listener of this show, you
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  Speaker 1: probably heard me say positional archetypes a million times. That
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  Speaker 1: would be on the disguise covered bingo. I've talked about
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  Speaker 1: it for years, how it's impacted the defense at multiple levels,
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  Speaker 1: how it's been good, how it's been bad, how it's
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  Speaker 1: been frustrated by what would be nice to see change,
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  Speaker 1: so on and so forth. And with the injection of
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  Speaker 1: a brand new defensive coaching staff and with a new
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  Speaker 1: scheme in place, with some more similarities than you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think are being given credit for. Still we have
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  Speaker 1: a new defensive scheme, we have a new defensive coordinator,
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  Speaker 1: we have a new defensive philosophy and identity and base
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  Speaker 1: front structure preferences and coverage structure preferences. When it comes
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  Speaker 1: to situational play calls new preferences when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: game planning, how to attack an offense and how to
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  Speaker 1: put them into disadvantageous situations. With all of that comes
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  Speaker 1: archetype changes up front for the Buffalo Bells and maybe
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  Speaker 1: a little bit on the back end too, So we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be diving into that in this episode. As always, questions, thoughts, comments, concerns,
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  Speaker 1: and bringing the kind of backup to the screen. Want
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  Speaker 1: to grab some comments really quick before we start to
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  Speaker 1: dive into some things here. Appreciate you Bob for you know,
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  Speaker 1: being first in and saying what's up and then the
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  Speaker 1: comment here. Yeah, I was on WGR this morning. It
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  Speaker 1: was pretty cool. I was on with Jeremy and Joe,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm glad you heard that. Thank you very much
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  Speaker 1: for the feedback for that. Phil says, equal blueberries prove it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I can. I just got to
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  Speaker 1: take my word for it. I also see some of
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  Speaker 1: what's up in the chat, all that kind of stuff
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  Speaker 1: to kind of set the I want to talk a
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  Speaker 1: little bit about the Bills defense under Jim Leonard. Before
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  Speaker 1: we start to tie into or guys to dive into,
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  Speaker 1: I should say that the specific archetypes are were going
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  Speaker 1: to talk about in this episode. I got four specific
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  Speaker 1: ones we're gonna dive into, but I kind of wanted
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  Speaker 1: to talk about just the defense in general. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I've at this point, I've talked for over several hours
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  Speaker 1: of air time on Jim Leonard, including the Reaction Show
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday, right after the news dropped of his hiring
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  Speaker 1: last Tuesday, on the back end of the Disguy's coverage, to
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  Speaker 1: talk about why I wanted him, why I liked him,
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  Speaker 1: why I thought he'd be good, so on and so forth.
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  Speaker 1: So again, you're gonna have that three to four odd
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  Speaker 1: front structure when in base, and we talked about, you know,
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  Speaker 1: his version of it is that tight front. So you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have a defensive end on the inside shoulder of
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  Speaker 1: a tackle. You're gonna have a zero technique head up
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  Speaker 1: on the center or shade it on the center and
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  Speaker 1: then you're gonna have a four eye on the other tackle.
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  Speaker 1: So that's that's how you identify the tight front four
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  Speaker 1: I zero and a four I. We talked about that again.
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  Speaker 1: Base front structure. That is what he is. The Bills
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  Speaker 1: defense is a four down defense. Previously under Sean McDermott,
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  Speaker 1: Jim Leonard plays a good chunk of nickel and a
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  Speaker 1: good chunk of sub package stuff. We are still going
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  Speaker 1: to see, you know, or you're still going to see
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  Speaker 1: things you're more accustomed to seeing with the Bills defense
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to like four down structures. Right when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to four down fronts nickel defenses, you're still
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  Speaker 1: going to see that. The main difference, there's a couple,
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  Speaker 1: but the biggest difference you're going to see within that
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  Speaker 1: is you know, especially at Wisconsin, so Jim Leonard, when
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  Speaker 1: you would go into nickel, you know you'd have four
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  Speaker 1: down and then you have five defensive backs for nickel,
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  Speaker 1: but you'd have two down linemen, four linebackers, and your
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  Speaker 1: five defensive backs, so it would be a two four five.
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  Speaker 1: And what he would do is is your edges would
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  Speaker 1: essentially be two outside linebackers, so two of the four
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  Speaker 1: and then your interior defensive lineman. The two down linemen
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  Speaker 1: were more like defensive ends. So even if you take
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  Speaker 1: something as basic as that, right you look at the Bills,
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  Speaker 1: would the Bills have the type of personnel to execute
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  Speaker 1: that it's more traditional or true? Like okay, if you've
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  Speaker 1: got guys on the outside, it's more like traditional edges,
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  Speaker 1: and then the guys on the interior would be more
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  Speaker 1: true interior defensive lineman. Maybe you could kick Greg russou
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  Speaker 1: In on the inside or Michael Hoyt if he's healthy.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see how healthy he is. But I do think
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  Speaker 1: there's more similarities or not. I shouldn't say similarities. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be completely uncharted territory for
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  Speaker 1: this defense like it may seem to be. I think
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  Speaker 1: people are, you know, kind of seeing three to four
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  Speaker 1: brand new defense? Do we have the personnel who's not
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  Speaker 1: a fit? What's gonna happen? I put a tweet out
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday after I did the live show of like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: even if you just ran a true three four, this
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  Speaker 1: is what it would look like for the Bills. And
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  Speaker 1: it's not ideal, right, and you have some questions at
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  Speaker 1: specific spots, which is going to tie into this episode
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  Speaker 1: that we're talking about here. But it's not a complete loss,
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  Speaker 1: cause it's not like this defense needs to be completely overhauled,
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  Speaker 1: like they they have to scrap all of the personnel,
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  Speaker 1: they have to jettison the majority of guys, and they
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  Speaker 1: have to bring in all new people. That's not what
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  Speaker 1: is the case here, and that's good that it's not
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  Speaker 1: the case because they don't have the draft capital or
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  Speaker 1: the financial capital'll be able to pull that off. What
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  Speaker 1: they do have is open roster spots, like we've talked
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  Speaker 1: about on the show, where they were going to need
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  Speaker 1: to add additional bodies to the roster. Even if the
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  Speaker 1: defense stayed exactly the same Sean McDermott, Bobby Babbage, whatever
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  Speaker 1: it was, even if everything stayed status quo as is,
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  Speaker 1: you were still going to need to add bodies to
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  Speaker 1: this defense. So you've got open roster spots, you've got
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  Speaker 1: a new defense. You had to add bodies anyway. Now
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  Speaker 1: you just have to add bodies in a different way
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  Speaker 1: with a different archetype and a different type of skill
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  Speaker 1: set or role or traits or play style to kind
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  Speaker 1: of tie all that in together. The first piece I
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  Speaker 1: want to talk about here, Oh, my head's coming back.
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  Speaker 1: First one, I want to talk about nose tackle. So
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  Speaker 1: this is the first positional archetype that I want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about. So this is somewhat of a similar idea
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  Speaker 1: to you know, the one Tech conversation last year, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe even the year prior, depending on if
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  Speaker 1: how early you were on that train or not. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, the first positional piece, I want to start
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  Speaker 1: on the defensive line, start on the innermost spot, and
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  Speaker 1: that is at the nose tackle. Now, I think Dion
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  Speaker 1: Walker can play in this role. I think it's more
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  Speaker 1: of a moonlighting or a rotational aspect more than a
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  Speaker 1: true nose. I think he had a good rookie year.
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  Speaker 1: I think he far surpassed my expectations of what he
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  Speaker 1: would be as a rookie, especially as a run defender.
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  Speaker 1: But I just don't think for Dion Walker his build
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  Speaker 1: is suitable to be a regular nose and it's not
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  Speaker 1: necessarily like a hugely negative thing. But he's very tall,
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  Speaker 1: he's very big. I rarely appreciate how he's kind of
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  Speaker 1: reproportioned his body composition and his weight. You know, since
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  Speaker 1: being an NFL player, but it's just hard for him
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  Speaker 1: to anchor. It's hard for him to win with leverage.
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  Speaker 1: He's so much taller than everybody he's going up against.
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  Speaker 1: Eyes are naturally going to get under him. And then
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  Speaker 1: because of how he's built, he's not the type of
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  Speaker 1: guy who's gonna drop the knee, who's got that lower,
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  Speaker 1: you know, lower body bend. JP Acosta, who's been on
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  Speaker 1: this show before, always talks about him as being the
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  Speaker 1: Iron Giant, which is I think is a funny reference,
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  Speaker 1: but it's it's kind of true. Like in he is
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  Speaker 1: from a play style standpoint, And I said this on
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  Speaker 1: gr this morning, and I'm reiterate it now. What I'm
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  Speaker 1: about to say, I don't want it to sound negative
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  Speaker 1: because I think when you hear when you hear the
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  Speaker 1: phrase finesse player, people think that means soft, and I don't.
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  Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying. But Dean Walker is more
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  Speaker 1: of a finesse player. He is more of a penetrator,
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  Speaker 1: you know, win with a quick swim, you know, penetrate,
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  Speaker 1: win with a move, not necessarily a beat him up,
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  Speaker 1: ass kicker type of guy. That's what I think you
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  Speaker 1: need on the interior of this defense. Specifically if you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna play some odd front stuff. Again, I think Dean
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  Speaker 1: Walker can play a little at the nose, especially if
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  Speaker 1: you're getting zone stuff. And he showed a good propensity
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  Speaker 1: for recognizing down plot down blocks and being able to
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  Speaker 1: defeat certain gap scheme runs. Again, he had a good
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  Speaker 1: rookie year. I'm not saying he didn't. But get yourself
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  Speaker 1: a true nose tackle a the verbige I keep using
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  Speaker 1: as a stone, get yourself a stone that you can
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  Speaker 1: drop in right over the center somebody who's used to
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  Speaker 1: a beat him up type of play style. You need
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  Speaker 1: a sand paper type of guy. And it does not
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  Speaker 1: have to be Vita Vea. It doesn't have to be
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  Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty pounds, three hundred and fifty pounds,
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  Speaker 1: some Goliath or some Godzilla King Kong type of dude.
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  Speaker 1: It's more about the play style. It's more about the
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  Speaker 1: skill set, right. It can be a smaller nose who's
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  Speaker 1: three hundred and ten, three hundred and fifteen pounds. It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have to be some again, some mammoth type of dude.
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  Speaker 1: It's more about the skill set. It's more about the
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  Speaker 1: play style. The example that I continue to use here
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  Speaker 1: of who I'm looking for in this example, and he
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  Speaker 1: happens to be an unrestricted free agent again this year
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  Speaker 1: like he was last year, is Roy Lopez. Roy Lopez
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  Speaker 1: was with the Cardinals in twenty twenty four. He was
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  Speaker 1: a UFA last offseason. I wanted the Bills to bring
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  Speaker 1: him in as a one TECH. He ended up going
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  Speaker 1: to Detroit, played well for Detroit. He is a UFA
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  Speaker 1: once again. I think he could be affordable, somebody that
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  Speaker 1: can get for like three to five million dollars. You
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  Speaker 1: plug him in on the interior, get a good rotation,
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  Speaker 1: let him eat bodies, eat space, beat up dudes on
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  Speaker 1: the inside. You know, I think what's what's also nice
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  Speaker 1: with him is or not even you know that specifically
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  Speaker 1: him is a you know, Roy Lopez is a guy
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  Speaker 1: that I'm targeting. One because I think he can do
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  Speaker 1: the job. But two, unfortunately, as we have to you know,
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  Speaker 1: play this game every offseason with the Bills. I do
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  Speaker 1: think he'll be cost effective. It's somebody you don't have
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  Speaker 1: to break the bank for and you can get this
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  Speaker 1: type of role. Again. He's a plugger inside. He's tough
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  Speaker 1: to displace. He's able to reduce a surface area and
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  Speaker 1: or hold his ground with lean and leverage. He's got
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  Speaker 1: good block recognition across multiple schemes, but he's also got
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  Speaker 1: enough burst and juice to be effective upfield. He can
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  Speaker 1: drive guys into the backfield, he can penetrate a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: and overall, he's just a guy who's gonna occupy and
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  Speaker 1: disrupt flow. Again, a sandpaper type of guy, a grit
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  Speaker 1: guy that's just a pain in the butt to play against.
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  Speaker 1: And I think he'll be cost effective. But say you
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  Speaker 1: don't like Roy Lopez, fine, that is the type of
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  Speaker 1: archetype they need at nose to put in rotation with Walker,
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  Speaker 1: which one I think helps Walker from having to deal
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  Speaker 1: with all the beat him up type of stuff on
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  Speaker 1: the inside. And I also think that frees up Deon
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  Speaker 1: Walker to do kind of a little bit of everything
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  Speaker 1: across the defensive front. A llah. You know what he
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  Speaker 1: did at Kentucky. You know you could put him at nose.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe you could put him in a one. You could
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  Speaker 1: put him in a two or two. I you could
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  Speaker 1: put him in a three. You could put him in
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  Speaker 1: a four. You could put him in a four eye
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  Speaker 1: on the inside shoulder of a tackle. You could put
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  Speaker 1: him in a five, maybe even kick him out a
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  Speaker 1: little wider. I think if you get that rotational nose,
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  Speaker 1: it frees up Dion Walker to kind of be a
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  Speaker 1: little more of the unicorn that he potentially is because
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  Speaker 1: of his size and the athleticism that he has. Again,
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  Speaker 1: he is a huge mountain of a dude. I thought
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  Speaker 1: he played admirably, admirably, admiral h admirably as a one
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  Speaker 1: tech for the Bills in his rookie year, especially because
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  Speaker 1: that's not really what he was a Kentucky. But I
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  Speaker 1: don't think that, you know, putting him as a true
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  Speaker 1: nose or having him be that plugger on the inside
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  Speaker 1: or that type of role. Again, they're not gonna ask
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  Speaker 1: him to be a pluger. They're still gonna have him
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  Speaker 1: penetrate and kind of win in that way. But I
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  Speaker 1: do think you need more of a displacement mitigator on
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  Speaker 1: the interior, somebody who won't get turned, somebody who won't
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  Speaker 1: get moved. And I just think that's a hard ask
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  Speaker 1: of him, down in and down out, because of his build,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the build that allows him to be kind
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  Speaker 1: of that unicorn player is also the same type of
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  Speaker 1: build that limits him in certain ways and allows him
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  Speaker 1: to not anchor at times and will cause him to
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  Speaker 1: get displaced, you know, horizontally or kind of get driven
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  Speaker 1: back a little bit as guys get underneath him. Guys
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  Speaker 1: get torque, guys have leverage, kind of those pieces. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: we gotta stop, Jason. You're awesome here again and throwing
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  Speaker 1: out super chats again, Appreciate the hell OUTI and Jason.
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  Speaker 1: Jason says, man, it's gonna be nice to see our
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  Speaker 1: linebackers involve more in our pressures. The secondary is really
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  Speaker 1: gonna I have to step up as a result. Who
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  Speaker 1: would you like us to target it? Free safety? I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if Rap is that guy. I am going
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  Speaker 1: to put a pin in this because safety is one
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  Speaker 1: of the archetypes you're going to talk about in this episode,
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  Speaker 1: and I will specifically be talking about the more of
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  Speaker 1: like the quote unquote free safety type of position or
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  Speaker 1: a deep safety type of role. So once again, it's
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  Speaker 1: like you peeked into my notes and I see where
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  Speaker 1: you're at and I appreciate you. I'm gona take a
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  Speaker 1: sip of ginger rail because the caffeine helps him my
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  Speaker 1: headache a little bit. So hold okay, now, Oh, also
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  Speaker 1: see this question here from Malley who says, how do
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  Speaker 1: you feel about t J. Sanders? He's going to be
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  Speaker 1: in the next archetype conversation. So it's like you're peeking
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  Speaker 1: in my notes too. You kind of know where this
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  Speaker 1: is going. And Roy says John Franklin Myers as a
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  Speaker 1: nose tackle John Franklin Myers. I hate to keep saying this,
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  Speaker 1: he's going to be in the next segment for another
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  Speaker 1: archetype that we're going to talk about, but yes, he
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  Speaker 1: has some versatility, which is part of what we're going
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  Speaker 1: to talk about in the next one. So I like this.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody's kind of getting there. So again, there are pieces
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  Speaker 1: already on the roster that are present that can work
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  Speaker 1: in Jim Leonard's defense. And I should say that too,
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  Speaker 1: with all these positional archetypes that they're going to need
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  Speaker 1: to add or change or whatever however you want to
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: verbalize it, it's not because the current players aren't a fit.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: It's not because they don't have the guys or the
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: body types, or the play styles or the skill sets
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: to run Jim Leonard's defense. That's not what's happening. They
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: have some guys that can fit already. They just need
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: more of some supplemental guys or auxiliary guys for specific
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: roles with specific play styles or skill sets mixed in
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: to kind of bring everything together holistically and maintain the
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: versatility and the hybridized nature of everything. Oh, I see
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: that comment that just came in from Pumpkin and the Goose.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I appreciate you checking out my
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: segment on gr I'm glad you liked it. Thank you
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: very much for the feedback. I appreciate that. I don't
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: want to bring the comment up because I feel like
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: it's too pat myself on the back set, especially because
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: I'm by myself. It's like, oh, look at this nice
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: comment someone said about me, but I want to do
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: acknowledge it. So thank you. So yeah again, this is
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: a scheme that I think, and specifically for Leonard. Jim
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Leonard is the type of coach who does a great
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: job setting his players up for success mentally and schematically.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: He's the type of guy who wants to give you
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: the tools to succeed. You're right, Jared Gingerrel is caffeine free.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: But maybe it was a placebo effect because my headachees
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: been feeling better since I drank the ginger ale. Good call, Jared.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: I'm a fool. I literally looked at the cannon and
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: it says caffeine free. Man, I'm a dunce. I am
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: not thinking great, but my head aches kind of going away.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna act like it has caffeine in it.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: So we're going to ignore this comment and we're all
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: gonna pretend like this gingerel then I'm drinking has caffeine
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: in it. Man, I'm an idiot. Yeah. So the style
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: of Jim Leonard, again, we've talked a lot about the
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: schematic benefits and will continue to talk about as we
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: go forward, you know, throughout this offseason. But he's a
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: guy who knows how to maximize what he has with
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: his players physically and mentally. Again, schematically, you know, what
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: do you do best physically? What type of player are you?
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: What type of play style do you work best? In?
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Cool We know how to weaponize you and how to
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: wield you, but he also does a good job building
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: them up mentally, giving them the tools to succeed on
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: game day. You know, the capacity versus capability thing that
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh talks about capability is, you know, you can
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: give someone assignment an assignment and they can go and
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: execute it. Capacity is the ability to like build on
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: that and kind of think for yourself and be able
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: to operate in the moment for something you maybe haven't
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: been trained on or you know, given the keys to
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: before already in practice. You know, Jim Leonard has talked
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: about in his coaching clinics and different pieces. You know,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: the idea of you can, you know, expose players to
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: the multitude of scenarios they're going to face in games,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: but on game day you're outside those white lines, so
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: you have to count on guys to step up and
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: make plays in positive ways. You have to give players
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: room to grow and room to think. So he's not
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: going to you know, the example. It's funny because he's
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: you know, got some Rex Ryan in him in terms
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: of that tree and stylized play. But I think so
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: many fans are still gunshy from Rex Ryan coming in
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: and taking over that cold front defense that was such
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: a good four down type of defense, and everybody like, oh, well,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: surely like he'll keep Jim Schwartz. Okay, he didn't keep
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz. Schwartz has gone. It's like Okay, well, surely
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: he'll still kind of tap into what they did under Schwartz.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: And it was like, Nope, he's going to take a
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: bunch of round pegs and try and fit them into
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: square holes and everything is going to go sideways. Jim
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Leonard is not that guy. He's not going to take
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: a bunch of players and try to make them bend
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: to his scheme. He's going to play what is best
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: for this team. And you know, this year, it might
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: be more four down structure stuff. It might be things
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: that the guys on the roster are already comfortable with.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Maybe they don't feel like they're able to bring in
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: the right bodies from a you know, financial situation or
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: a draft situation where they can run the full gamut
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: of what Leonard wants to run, right, So maybe I
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: don't want to say he waters it down, but maybe
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: he kind of narrows down the menu a little bit
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: to play to the players that he has and the
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: personnel that he has and kind of what he can
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: get to in the best way. I trust Jim Leonard,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: you know, holistically, to be able to put the guys
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: in the right place to at them up for success. Again,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: this is another kind of quote tied to him. What
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: can you effectively get your guys to do on a
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: consistent basis. Anything more than that is a waste and
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: you're not really doing your players justice as far as
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: what you're trying to get accomplished. If you're not doing that,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: you're not putting the game in their hands to let
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: them win for you. He is not going to put
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: guys in disadvantageous positions for them, or for the team,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: or for himself. So I do think he will adapt
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: things around the players. But again, the current players that
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: they do have under contract and on the roster, because
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: they've got a bunch of guys that are on the
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: books financially but not on the roster anymore. They do
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: have some guys still on the roster that can fit
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: what he wants to do. But again, you need to
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: supplement that or buttress that with some of these archetype
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: pieces that we're talking about in this episode. And again
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: it starts with nose tackle right, So get yourself a
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: true stone that you can drop in the center of
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: your defensive line, can play a true nose, play a
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: zero head up right on the center, or can play
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: a one tech or just be able to be available
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: inside you want to go heavy with some other dudes
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: like you just need that type of skill set. Again,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I thought they needed more of that skill set last
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: year as a one Tech I sat here and I
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: pounded the table for Roy Lopez last year. I am
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: pounding the table for Roy Lopez again. He continues to
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: be my example one because he fits the play style
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: and the skill set that I think they need there.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: But also again I think he will be cost effective
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: and not cost effective in like a bad way, but
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: cost effective in a good way. You know, those type
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: of dudes are available on the market to some degree.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: They don't cost a ton, and I think he'll fit
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: right in that rotational role right on the interior. Get
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: yourself a stone, drop him in there. There's a possibility
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: you could get this in the draft as well. I
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: know a lot of people like big Citrus Dominique Orange
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: out of Iowa State. I've watched him a little bit.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: That could be fun. I know people like Corleone, the
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: defensive tackle from Cincinnati. You got Lee Hunter, defensive tackle
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: from Texas Tech. So you know there are options in
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: the draft if you want like some heavy hitters on
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: the interior in the draft. There are options there, and
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: there's some options in free agency too, but I kind
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: of just go for that known quantity. Roy Lopez think
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: you can get him on a one year, three and
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: a half to five million dollar deal. You know, maybe
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: you go two years, but you bring him in, let
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: him kind of eat those ugly down reps, those ugly
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: down snaps in rotation with Dion Walker, which helps unlock
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: deon Walker, keep it fresh to do some more of
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: those fun type of unicorn things that he can do
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: with his size and skill set and what he kind
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: of is. Gage says, I'd love to I'd love them
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: to draft a nose tackle late and sign one out
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: of free agency. How many nose tackles compete for a
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: roster spot. That's what's tough, right, because I think you're
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: gonna play Walker, it knows you know again, I think
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: you can play him in multiple spots on the front.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: He's a weird one for a fit in that type
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: of defense, right, Like you kind of play him in
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: a four eye, you kind of play him in a
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: nose I think if you're getting multiple nose tackles, that
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: to me would indicate that you're gonna play Walker in
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: more of a four eye and kind of some of
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: the interior stuff your four down looks. I would expect
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: one true nose to make the roster here and be
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: in rotation with Dion Walker. But if they go with multiple,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: that to me would signal they're gonna rock with multiple
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: and then use deon Walker in some kind of other
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: way on the defensive line. That's a good question. Oh,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Russ is here, Russell's I'm not listening
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: to the podcast because I'm watching old school wrestling and
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: listening to old tunes that said. Watch Michigan State center
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Matt Goldman. He's awesome, but not like them is. I
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: appreciate all the references here and Russ, I appreciate you,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: And I'm sorry you have to watch Michigan State football.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: That sounds that sounds rough. Gage says, isn't Walker too tall? Yeah,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: but that's not gonna really kind of stop anywhere or
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: stop being a problem anywhere on that defensive line. Like
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: anytime he gets guys under him, it's gonna be a problem.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: And that's not just gonna happen like oh, on the interior,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: kind of on the outside, like it's gonna happen to
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: him regardless due to six seven. He's too tall in
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: a good and bad way everywhere unless he's going up
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: against certain offensive tackles. But that's not gonna happen regularly
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: for him. So anytime he lines up on the interior,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: he's gonna have, you know, the opportunity in a bad
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: way for dudes to get under him and kind of
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: drive him and move him and do all that. That's
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: just you have you dance with who brought you, and
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: that's who brought you. You know, he's he's going to
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: get out leveraged a bunch because of how tall he is,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: which is part of why I don't want him to
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: have to constantly deal with that. At knows where guys
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: can get under him a little bit or where he
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: has to you know, how much does he have to
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: two gap? How much is he single gap? And are
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: they playing a gap and a half? What are they
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: kind of doing on that interior? How do they kind
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: of play it? Are they playing it, you know, like
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: an odd front structure where it is more gap and
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: half or two gapping, or are they playing it more hey,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: you know, five down, everybody's still one gap and we're
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: getting up field and attacking. We'll see kind of how
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: they go from there. Oh, I gotta stop again, Jason,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: appreciate you. You're extremely generous. Jason. Another super chat and
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: Jason says, so, ants are you saying that Jim Leonard
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: will have a number of packages players specific to fit
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: in the players we have or until players become more
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: comfortable with the transition. Yeah, I think I think he
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: will have sub packages and defensive plays. You know, I
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: have more and so calls that are a fit to
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: what the guys they currently have are, right, Like, So
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: for instance, right, say, and as I talked about it,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: wass Coonstable to just use this kind of example right
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: when he would go nickel, it was a two four five,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: so you had two down linemen, four linebackers, and then
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: your five defensive backs, right, And then we talked about
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: on your front it would be four down, but the
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: guys in the interior defensive ends, the guys on the
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: outside were linebackers, right, And the type of guys that
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: they would use Zach Bond Andrew van Ginkele, Right, those
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: are the type of guys he would wield in base
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: but also in nickel. The Bills don't have guys like
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Zach Bond. The Bills don't have guys like Andrew Van Ginkle.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: So can you still run that kind of stuff when
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: you don't have those body types potentially? Right? And maybe
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: you know, hey, maybe Dornan Williams can do some of
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: that stuff. I don't think he's the path strusher off
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: the edge that either of those guys were at Wisconsin.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: But you look at that and it's like, Okay, do
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: we have some of those guys who can fill those roles?
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Do we have a guy who's similar to Wisconsin Zach
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Bonn or Wisconsin Andrew Van Ginkle to kind of use
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: that example, or you know Wisconsin Jack Sample or Wisconsin
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Nick Herbig, like right, those type of dudes. And if
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: you don't, then you have to sit and look and go, okay,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: can we still play that way? Can we still run
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: those types of packages, those type of plays, those type
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: of calls, And that's the question that you ask, and
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: then I trust him to evaluate, you know what, we
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: still can run that type of stuff with the guys
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: we have, or I trust him to be like, we
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: can't do that. So when we go Nickel, it's going
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: to be a true four down front. You know, we're
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: not going to do two defensive ends on the interior
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: and two outside linebackers on the outside. It's going to
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: be more of you know, Greg Russau to add Oliver
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: to Dion Walker to Michael Hoyt or something like that.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I trust him to kind of set those
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: guys up for success and kind of build it around.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: You know, he has his identity, he has his philosophy,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: and he has the scheme that he wants to implement.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: But he's going to build that around the players that
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: he has or look for guys to bring in to
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: fit what he wants. He's not going to set anybody
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: up for failure or set you know, anyone up to
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: be in a disadvantageous spot. Good comment question, russ says, an,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you watch Texas A and m
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Casius Howell, but he'd be fun off the edge for Leonard.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: His game against LSU is awesome. He's actually one of
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: the first edges I have earmarked him and your boy
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: David Bailey. Just kidding. I know you don't. You're not
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: a huge fan of David Bailey. Plant the flag on
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: that early as we were texting about that earlier. Today.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: I have Casius Howell kind of pegged to kind of
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: watch him early, mainly because I saw somebody who I
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: respect put him in a mock to the Bills like
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: a month ago, and I was like, oh, that's interesting. No,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: but I'm I'm behind on prospect watching at this time
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: of year. I will be middle of February. I will
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: be grinding extremely hard. But no, I have not started
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: the edge grouping yet. But I'm gonna make a note
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: of Howell. I already had a note on Howland. I'm
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: gonna make it even more of one now because I
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: respect you and know how much you know. Jason. Another
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: super chat, Thank you. Jason says, what do you think
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: is the most important role that must be filled or
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: addressed in Leonard's scheme? Oh, sheesh, man, If he wants
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: to do what he did at Wisconsin, Uh, it's the linebackers.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: If he wants to do more of what they did
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: in Denver. I think it's nose tackle and defensive end.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: And I'm gonna talk about defensive end more in a
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: minute now. Very good question, Very good question. Yeah, So
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: that's nose tackle kind of Gage says, everything but strong
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: safety and corner. But yeah, so in a nutshell, that's
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: who Leonard is. That's what I want with this nose
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: tackle spot. I know this is a mix of a
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: segment talking about the positional archetype and nose and specific,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: but also just kind of what Leonard is, who he is.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of fun conversations going forward
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: with that. The next one that I want to talk
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: about kind of ties into John Franklin Myers, who was
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: mentioned earlier in a bit of Jason's question a minute ago.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: The next positional archetype that I expect changes for and
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I think the Bills need changes for is defensive end.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take another ship of my ginger ale. Everybody there, Oh,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I know there's no caffeine, but it makes me feel
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: so good. So defensive end in this defense, in Jim
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Leonard's scheme system, all that type of deal, you are
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: looking for guys who can play in that four eye roll, right,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: So guys who can play on the inside shoulder of
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: the tackles. But you're also going to be looking for
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: those guys to have, you know, versatility, to be able
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: to play like a three tech or a one tech
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: and a four down look. So these guys are gonna
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: have to have versatility. There are guys who can play
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: defensive end in a four eye in odd front looks right,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: And that could be the type front where you just
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: have maybe three down or maybe four down technically, but
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: you're in a tight so you're you know, four I
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: inside shoulder the tackle, or it could be Denver Broncos
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: five down front type of deal, right. And every time
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I think of the Denver Broncos you know defense, or
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I put that out there for folks, I always want
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: everybody to envision what you got, right. So you've got
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: your bookends, right, are Jonathan Cooper on one side and
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Nick Benito on the other. So Jonathan Cooper is your
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: bookend on we'll say for the defenses. Left, John Franklin
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Myers is the four eye. Inside of him. DJ Jones
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: is the nose tackle sometimes kind of like a one
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: depending on how he aligns, but DJ Jones is that
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: stone in the center. So that's three guys of the five.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Then to the right of DJ Jones is Zach Allen,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: who's aligned in more of a four eye, and then
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: outside Zach Allen is Nick Benito. Right, So if you're
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: thinking about the Bills defensive ends right now, right, and
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: the defensive ends are going to be more of those
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: four eye guys. So think again, the easiest way to
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: think about it, because I know not a lot of
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: people are like, oh yeah, I remember the Wisconsin defenses
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: from twenty seventeen to twenty twenty two. Think about the
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Denver Broncos this past year, right, which I think enough
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: fan Bills fans have familiarity with in one way or another.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Think of Zach Allen and think of John Franklin Myers. Right,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: guys that line up on the inside shoulder of the
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: tackles in odd front looks, and those same guys who
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: in the Broncos go four down, they can kick those
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: dudes inside to a three tech or a one tech. Okay,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: So think of that. So think of Zach Allen and
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: John Franklin Myers and that positional flexibility and versatility, right
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: can line up inside shoulder of the tackles and a
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: four eye in odd front looks or kick inside as
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: more of a traditional defensive tackle from a Bills sense
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: in four down looks. Right, do the Bills have a
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: John Franklin Myers. Do the Bills have a Zach Allen.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I'm not talking about talent level. I'm talking about that
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: type of versatility and flexibility from an alignment standpoint and
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: place down standpoint kind of but also not really. This
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: is where I think a kind of big question comes
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: about for this defense. So my position archetypes that I
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: think the Bills need to go after. There's two for
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: me right now. They're both UFAs. I would love for
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: the Bills to sign one or both of them. One
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: is John Franklin Myers. The other is David Anyamada from
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons. He's somebody I liked with this time
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: in New Orleans. These are two guys who again can
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: line up at multiple spots along your front, on front
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: or even front, and Anyamada has even got some nice
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: reps at nose tackle, which is crazy because he's like
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: three hundred pounds. I think jfm's listed at like two
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: eighty eight, so Anyamada is a little heavier at three hundred.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: But Anyamada is a type of dude who he's lining
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: up you know as like a three tech or a
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: one tech and four down looks he's lining up in
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: a four ie, he's sometimes lined up outside of that
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: a little bit. They're lining him up at nose. Atlanta
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: did some cool stuff with him, and he was effective
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: across the board. But the point with him is somebody
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: who warn multiple hats, line up at multiple spots on
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: your front, like Anya Mada is a type of guy who, Okay,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: you can line up at nose and handle your own
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: against the run, but you can also penetrate and get
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: some pressure from that same spot and do all those
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: things across, you know, multiple other spots in an odd
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: or even front look on the defense. Cool similar thing
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: for JFM right, put him in a four eye in
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: the odd front looks, kick him inside to a three
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: tech or a one tech and your four down stuff. Right,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: that's the type of defensive end that you need. I
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: think the Bills kind of have that right now. Like
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: you can do that a little bit with Greg Russo
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: and Rusul is an interesting one too, Like there's times
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: where when they would go with some odd front stuff
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: like he would kick inside to a four eye and
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: granted it was more adjustment based based on kind of
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: like a motion or a personnel or kind of what
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: was happening offensively, but you know, Group can kick him
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: there a little bit, although I do think majority of
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: the time Group is going to be one of your
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: stand up bookends A la uh. You know, Jonathan Cooper
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: and Nick Bonito, and then you look at Michael Hoyt.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be another bookend a la Nick
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Bonito and Jonathan Cooper. But Hoyt's another dude who you
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: could kick him inside into a four eye. You could
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: on passing downs, like you could line him head up
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: over the center, put him in a two point stance
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: kind of. Everything that you were going to do with
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Michael Hoyt in mcdermot's defense, you can do in Jim
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Leonard's and then some because it naturally it's it's more
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: seamless because of what Hoyt was with the Rams in
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: their odd front structure and what he can be with
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Jim Leonard in his odd front structure. So I think
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: that's a very seamless thing for him. But you got
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: your bookends there with Oliver and Rousseau, more with Hoyt
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: and Rousseau. More often than not when you kick inside
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: to the defensive ends Gauge, I see your comment where
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: you say, like our Oliver and Hoyight the same player
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: in this kind of defense. I want to bring it
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: up because I think that's like a fun question because
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: kind of like I think, more often than not, from
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: a base standpoint, Michael Hoyt would be one of your
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: bookends and Ed Oliver would be a four eye. But
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: in known passing down in distances or situations, you could
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: get a little fun like I like the idea of
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: putting Ed Oliver as one of the bookends, one of
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: those outside edge players, putting ed Oliver in a two
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: point stance and letting ed Oliver hunt, or putting Ed
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Oliver in a two point head up on the center
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: and letting him do some kind of stuff. From that regard,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: or in that regard, I should say, so, I don't
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: think they're the same kind of player, but I think
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: you can align them similarly and give them similar responsibilities
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: while still using them differently. If that makes sense. That's
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: a really good thought. I like that. I think that's cool.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: But again that ties into again that defensive end conversation,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: because say you were building out the bills front, say
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: you were going again, let's talk that Bronco structure, right
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Cooper JFM DJ Jones, Zach Allen, Nick Benito, Right, if
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: you're doing that for the Bills right now, with who
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: they have on the roster, Let's pretend Michael Hoyt is healthy,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: it's Greg Russo at Oliver Dion Walker, TJ. Sanders or
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Landon Jackson. Michael Hoyt that defensive end spot of TJ.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Sanders or land In Jackson. I don't love that that
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: ties into this position archetype as well. I don't know
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: how much of a fit t J. Sanders is going
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: to be in this defense aside from like the sub
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: package four down type of stuff. I'm interested to see
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: kind of what weight they play him at or what
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: they have him get to. Again, he's not going to
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: be a nose like he just doesn't have He doesn't
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: have the play style of the skill set to be
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: a nose. It's just not gonna happen. I mean, Walker
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: does a little bit, but even Walker, it's tougher for
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: him because of his place style because he's a finesse guy.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: He just happens to be a finesse guy in the
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: body of a mountain. Sanders is not going to be
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: a nose or he could be put I wouldn't want
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: him at nose, I should say so. The only other
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: spot is for him to be, you know, one of
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: the four eyes or one of those defensive ends who
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: can also kick inside on the interior three tech or
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: one tech and sub packet situations. Right, But again, I
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: don't love that, and I think his season last year
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: was unfortunate. You know, he got banged up. Other guys
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: got banged up. He's playing like traditional defensive end in
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: even front structures and it kind of I think set
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: his development back a little bit. He was having to
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: wear a hat that he wasn't prepared to wear, and
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: he struggled at times, had some positive flashes at times,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: but overall, I think, you know, an underwhelming rookie season.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I don't think that means they should be out on
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: him or he's done. But I cover T J. Sanders
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: offensive guard. He'd be a light guard though, like two
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: hundred ninety five pounds or three hundred pounds. Yeah, Sanders
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: is a questionable fit, and I wasn't too high on
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Land and Jackson as a prospect. I just don't like
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: dudes who don't have a lot of bend and are rigid,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: and he doesn't have a lot of bend and he's rigid.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: But you know, he could work out well maybe at
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: a four eye, especially if they play him a little
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: heavier like they did in his early days in Arkansas.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's got the right build and play
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: style to be a stand up guy off the edge.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Could happen a little bit, maybe if he lightens a bit,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: but I just don't think that pure compression style of
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: rusher is going to be ideal coming off the edge.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: I think you need a little more athleticism, you need
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: a little more juice, a little more bend to be,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: you know, one of those bookend edge rushers in an
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: odd front and not saying it's out of the realm
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: of possibility, but I think it's for me. Like, if
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I had to, I'd ask Landon to, you know, get
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: a little heavier like he did in Arkansas. Let's put
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: you in a four eye again. He's a run defense
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: type of guy. He uses his hands, he uses his length,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: he's physical. Let's play you in a four eye and
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: kind of go from there. But even then, it's still like,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: how much versatility do you have with land and Jackson
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: and TJ. Sanders, what's the ceiling. What's the floor for
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: each of those guys. I think both of them are
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: more unknown quantity than they are known. So for me,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of going to Jason's common earlier or question,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: you know, what do you think is the most important
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: role that must be filled or addressed in Leonard's scheme.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: One of the ones I mentioned was you know that
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: defensive end spot because I think it's questionable right now.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I think Ed'll be fine. Ed'll be fine is a
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: four eye who can do a bunch of stuff in
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: sub packages. I don't know how I feel about Sanders, well,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I do. I don't feel great about Sanders as a
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: four eye, and I don't feel great about Land and
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Jackson as the four eye? Could each of them do it? Sure?
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Could each of them work out there? Sure? Do I
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: want to hang my hat on that for this season?
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I do not. So I think this is one where
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: I would like a little bit of a splash you
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: know here. Again, it's not gonna be huge or crazy
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: from a monetary perspective, it might be more than they
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: can affordable. See, but give me JFM, give me David Anyamata,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: two guys who can each rock at a four eye
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: on you. Monic could even kick in the nose a
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: little bit from time to time and odd front looks,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: and then both those dudes can also kick inside on
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: four down fronts and Russia as a one tech or
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: a three tech and still play the run and give
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: you some pop as a pass rusher as well. Penetration, physicality,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: block recognition in those dudes. Veteran presence on your MADA
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: is a little bit older. He's thirty two right now.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I think he'll be thirty three when the season starts.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: But both of those guys or that type of that
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: type of play style, that type of body type, right
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: this is this is this is what this episode is.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: It's you've give them some specific players that could work,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: but also kind of get you thinking of, Okay, that's
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: what that's what that play style should be, or that's
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: what that skill set should look like, or that's what
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: that body type should look like. So JFM, David Anyamata,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: both of those guys are what I would look like
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: or what I look for at defensive end in terms
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: of the archetype or in terms of them specifically. And
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: if you're thinking about that right now, the bills don't
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: have that on them on their roster. They do not
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: have a JFM on this roster. They do not have
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: a David on Yourma in this roster. They do not
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: have a Zach Allen on this roster. Like they don't
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: have those type of guys, Derek says, does Solomon factor
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: in any of this? He's gonna have to be one
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: of your book ends on the outside, pure juice, pure athleticism,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: with some bend and some moves. Maybe you kick him
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: inside and do some stuff as a sub package guy,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: but he's really more. I mean, in an ideal world,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: you get him really souped up and juiced up off
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: the edge and you let him try to be like
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: a Nick Bonito type of deal. So maybe he could work,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: but he's factor and more on the outside. He doesn't
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: have you know, he doesn't have the weight on me
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: to click off of that. I don't think he has
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: the kind of you know, weight in his shorts to
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: play a four eye or kicking side more. You know,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: so he can be a sub package rusher or play
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: outside a little bit if they go five down in
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: odd front type of stuff. Or again he's got some athleticism,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: you know, you could go with a tight front, so
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: three you know, three down on the interior, the four
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: eye zero and a four eye and have him be
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: kind of the fourth down guy on the line of image.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: You could have him dropping coverage a little bit. So
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I think he has some usefulness. I just haven't seen
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: him produce a lot or be used a lot at
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: all to this point, so kind of counting on him
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: to be something. I think it's the question mark across
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: the board. You know, maybe it's on him, maybe it's
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: because of the defense he was in previously, But I
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: think he's more of a guy who's going to be
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: a bookend kind of factoring into a true like edge
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: outside type of presence. Come in here a question. Here
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: are our pass rushers, defensive end or linebacker going to
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: benefit from the scheme in terms of QB hunting versus
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: setting an edge or staying in a link. Yes, Jim
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Leonard is going to bring simulated pressures, creeper pressures games
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: with the four down front, true blitzes where the paths
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: are designed to attack the quarterback, where you still have
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: some contain right where you're not just going crazy, but
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: you're attacking the quarterback getting him off the spot while
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: still having some integrity on top of it. So yeah,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's I think it's going
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: to be a good combination of integrity and like contain
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: pressures or cops mix was still getting him off the
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: spot and attacking the quarterback. Question here, Oh yeah, what
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: would t J. Sanders place in this defense be if
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: not a four eye? That's a great question. I don't
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: think he has one. Again, he's he's not lining up
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: as a bookend. He's not going to be a Bonito
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: or Jonathan Cooper, and he's not going to be a
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: nose you right, He's not a DJ Jones. So you
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: have to hope he can play four I and if
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: he can't play four I, it gonna be a problem.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: And as Drew says, yeah, Walker is a four eye.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: I do think Walker could be a four eye, which
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: is again is part of why or you could work
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: him there a bit, which is part of why. I
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: want a true nose tackle, Like, give me a true
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: nose so I can line up Walker at four I.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: I could even line him up as one of the
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: bookends as a five US Walker in the four down looks.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: I again, I think Walker can moonlight as a true
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: nose or work there. I don't think it's the best
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: use of his skill set, and I don't think it's
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: the best way to kind of stop the run, especially
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: if you're getting downhill stuff for gap scheme stuff. Again,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's terrible there, but I don't think
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: it's the best use of his skill set or his
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: play style. And getting yourself a true nose, you know,
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: allows Walker to play as a four eye or just
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: rotat into different spots and looks. So yeah, one thousand percent,
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: very fair, very fair, very fair, very fair. Tony says,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: what linebackers do you think fit this scheme? Linebackers can
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: be the next one that we're going to get into.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: So you are seeing into my notes like so many
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: of you others have done. So Yeah, defensive end. I
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: think this one's important. And again, the key with the
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: defensive ends are they need alignment versatility. Right, It's got
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: to be somebody who can play a four eye in
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: these odd front structures, but who can also kick inside
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: to a one or a three tech in four down structures, right,
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: David anyamdel so as the bonus of you know, he
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: can line up at nose from time to time and
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: hold his own, which is pretty cool. I Thinkain like
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: forty five snaps and nose last year, and for a
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: three hundred pound dude doing that in odd front structures
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: and the way he handled double teams and played the
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: run and played the pass, it was very impressive. I
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: really really really like David Onyamada. And those are the
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: two types of guys again, So the key for that
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: is alignment. Versatility can be a four eye in the
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: odd front structures, kick inside to a one or a
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: three tech and the four down stuff or even front
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: stuff and then having again playstyle body type type of
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: idea John Franklin Myers, David on your Mada, that type
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: of mold or idea there when you're looking at defensive
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: end for what they need in the system and in
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: this scheme, because again you're gonna get odd front stuff.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: You are still going to get four down even front
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: stuff that you saw with Sean McDermott. You are going
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: to get that right. You're gonna get some gap and
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: a half, maybe even some two gapping too. You're gonna
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: get some gap and a half, some two gapping and
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: some one gap penetrating type of stuff that you got
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: in a McDermott. Right, you are going to get a
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: variety of these with Jim Leonard because he is multiple,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: because he is a hybrid type of guy. So you
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: need players that reflect that multiplicity, that reflect that hybrid
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: idea or that hybrid nature. You need players that are dynamic, versatile, hybrid,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: or any type of synonyms and verbs for that stuff.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Next one, since everybody's been asking about it, position, archetypes
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: or linebacker, Give me a second. I'm gonna take another
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: sip of ginger ale because my headache is coming back. Okay,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: back too, man. The gingdrell hits every time. Linebacker. Linebacker
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: is tricky because if you especially if you go back
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: to his time at Wisconsin, Jim Leonards, that is, dynamic
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: and or hybrid linebackers were very important to what he
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: did at Wisconsin. Having multiple guys that could effectively rush
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: or effectively drop into coverage at any point mattered a
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: lot and matters in today's NFL. Right again, tying into
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: what we kind of finished within the last segment, that
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: increases your multiplicity and the possibilities that an offense has
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: to account for. Right, Okay, is this guy rushing is
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: this guy dropping? And it? Can he do either of
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: those things and still be effective, right, because you can
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: have a guy lined up on the edge and be like, oh,
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: is he gonna drop or is he gonna rush? Well,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: if you rushes, we don't care, right, Like I think
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Dorrian Williams is a good example. Dorrian Williams I think
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: is a really interesting fit in this defense because of
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: his length and his physicality and his play coming forward, right.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: You know, he has the ability to kind of deconstruct
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: some blocks a bit. He's physical, he's an impactful tackler, right,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: But it's like, okay, he asked some questions in coverage,
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: so you know you could put him as one of
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: the inside linebackers. Let him just kind of play downhill,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: plug the a gap and be a headhunter, right, Sea ball,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: get ball type of deal. Play to your physicality, lady
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: or juice, play to your length, all that kind of stuff. Right,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: But you'll have some questions in coverage for him. You
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: could line him up on the edge, which they did
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: at times when they would go they would use him
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: as like a true sam and line them up against
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: teams that went heavy or used like a heavier surface
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: from an offensive standpoint, and they'd line him up as
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: a SAM and let him play on the edge. He
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: can do that from a run defense standpoint, But you're
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: not worried about Dorian Williams beating one of your tackles
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: one on one in a pass or situation. Right, So,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Dorrian Williams is kind of wonky, like, okay, could he
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: kind of play as one of those inside linebackers and
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: the odd front stuff? Is he more of a sub
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: package type of player? Where are you playing him as
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: a sub package guy? Because he's not a true threat
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: as a rusher off the edge. So are you still
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: playing him off ball? You know, what does that look like?
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Is he a starter? Is he a depth guy? Is
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: he a linebacker? Three? Is he a linebacker two? You know,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: starting alongside Bernard or whoever? Well, it's probably gonna be
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Bernard at this point. Linebacker again is interesting because of
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: what Leonard used at Wisconsin. You know, the Denver linebackers
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: a little more straightforward, right. You got Alex Singleton, you
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: got Stirnad, and then you got Drake green Law who
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: played this past year. Those guys aren't completely hybridized or
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: dynamic like the Wisconsin linebackers were right again the line
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: like the Wisconsin ones that Leonard wielded. Again, it's Van Ginkle,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: it's Zach Bond, it's and even Zach Bond played more
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: on the edge at Wisconsin than he did like off
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: ball like he's doing now for Philly. But it was
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Van Ginkle and bonn in Chanl and her Big again,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: her Big was more on the edge, but he would
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: drop every once in a while and wasn't like an
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: off ball guy. Like it's it's this type of versatility
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: that you need in the linebackers, right, Like, do you
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: have somebody who can line up, you know, on the
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: interior or as an inside linebacker. Do you have somebody
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: who can play downhill and kind of plug the A
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: gap or you know, meet an offensive lineman, deconstruct the block,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: shoot a gap, any of that type of stuff in
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: between the tackles, Right, do you have somebody who can
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: play from the A gap to the C gap type
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: of deal? Right? And can that same guy also line
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: up on the edge and beat somebody one on one,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: you know, beat a tackle one on one from a
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: pass rous standpoint, whether it's with hands or you know,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: winn in a half man relationship or going speed to
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: power and going through a guy, all these type of stuff,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: right it is, it's a question mark linebacker. This is
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: low hanging fruit. And I know a lot of people
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: have kind of talked about it a bunch already. But
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: this guy that I'm about to say is the idealistic
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: like addition that they need to make it. Linebacker. He
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: played at Wisconsin underneath Jim Leonard. It's Leo Chanal, somebody
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: who again, he can plug the a gap, he can
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: rush off the edge, he can drop into coverage. He
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: specifically would be phenomenal. But also that is the type
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: of kind of play style or skill set or skill
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: sets you're looking for. Someone who can wear multiple hats
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: and wear them at above average levels. Doesn't have to
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: be a unicorn. It just has to be a guy
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: that is effective in multiple ways. And if you had
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: to boil it to a couple, it's mainly like somebody
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: who can rush and play coverage if you're looking at
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: outside linebacker, and then if you're looking at inside linebacker,
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: someone who can play coverage and be downhill. Chanall is
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: the ideal guy or the poster child for this because
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: he literally can do all those things, like he can rush,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: and he can play coverage, and he can play downhill
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: like he can do all of those things. He's been
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: so fun in Steve Spagnolo's defense for years. Tie in
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: again to the multiplicity, like Spags would use him and
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: put him like head up over the center, he'd put
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: him in the a gap, he'd line them off ball,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: he'd line them up outside. It was just like man like,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: where's he coming from? What's he gonna do? Those are
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: the type of guys you need because again with the
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: simulated pressures and creeper pressures that Jim Lennon wants to
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: run again, for those of you who don't know what
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: that is, simulated pressure is you're still rushing four, but
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: you are one of those four rushers is a non
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: traditional rusher and you are dropping a traditional rusher into coverage.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: So a simulated pressure easiest way to think of it,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: you're showing blitz. Right. Say you've got five guys showing
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: on the line, and if you're a Bills fan, I'll
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: put into this perspective for you. You know you're showing five
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: at the line and on the snap, Matt Mlano rushes
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: at Oliver rushes, Dion Walker rushes, and TJ. Sanders rushes.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: That's four and then you drop Greg Russo into coverage. Right,
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: So you're bringing Milano and dropping Groot into coverage. So
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: you're bringing a non traditional rusher and dropping into coverage
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: a traditional rusher. Creeper pressure is the exact same thing,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: except you're not showing pressure pre snap, so it just
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: be a four down front. Say it's Groot, ed Walker
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: and aj Apanessa and off ball, You've got Matt Milano
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: and Terrell Bernard, and it just looks like, okay, we
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: have a four down front and Milano and Bernard are
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: gonna play off ball, and then on the snap, Milano
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: rushes and group drops back again. The idea with these
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: sims and creepers is you can use them to attack protections.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: You can get them and use them to manipulate how
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: many guys stay in the block by making a defense
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: think more is coming than they need to. You can
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: if you know a team's protection rules, you can get
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: a free rusher off of it. Jim Leonard is really
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: great at using sims and creepers to attack formations and
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: attack alignments from offenses. Right like open side, so the
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: field side, the boundary side where the running back is
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: or where the running back isn't the tight end side,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: you know, closed open, all this kind of stuff. He's
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: very adept at using sims and creepers to attack an
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: offense based on how they come out of the huddle
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: or the personnel grouping that they're in, or their tendencies right,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: and to be able to do that effectively. The more
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: versatile body types you have, the more hybridized guys you have,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: the more dynamic guys that you have across the entire board,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: helps tremendously. But linebacker is a big one because of
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: the hats that those linebackers wore for Jim le while
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: at Wisconsin, because of their versatility, because of how dynamic
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: they were as players, as rush players, coverage players, and
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: as run fitters. So linebackers really interesting. Oh, Charles with
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: the good one here saying Kayden Ellis and Quay Walker
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: would be other possibilities, but Shannal is option number one. Yeah.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: My joke that I keep making, I said it on
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: gr this morning is you know, essentially like your linebackers,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: you know you're looking for like you know, again, it
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: can vary versus the outside guy versus the inside guys.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: But you're looking something for somebody who played at Wisconsin
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: under Jim Leonard, or you're looking for one of the
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Georgia linebackers, right, like, get yourself. Yeah, so Quay Walker
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: is right up there. Good call. Size, athleticism, play downhill,
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: play some coverage. Not gonna be dude who's gonna win
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: you one on one stuff on the outside, but somebody
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: who can thump and play downhill but still play some
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: coverage at the same time and have some athleticism to them.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: And yeah, Cayden Ellis kind of fits into that boat
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: as well. Maybe a little more rush opportunity potentially there.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I like where your heads at t I
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: was a good call. Chromatic Wanders saying this is a
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: good call in this comment here saying this is a
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: deep year for off ball linebackers in the draft. A
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: lot of options there. Yes, there is a reason who
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: who keeps I think it's a C. J. Allen, the
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: linebacker from Georgia who keeps getting mocked to the Bills
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: in the first round of drafts. I really like him
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: coming forward and he's a leader, play caller, adjuster at Georgia.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: I don't. I haven't watched his tape. This is just
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: for me watching broadcasts and broadcast as a lie. So
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: take this with a grain of salt. But I don't
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: love CJ. Allen as a coverage guy right now, but
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: I think he can function as an inside linebacker in
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: a three four. And again he comes from you know,
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: the tight front in in Jim Leonard's world is very
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: similar to you know that tight or that mint front
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: that Georgia uses. So if you get yourself some backers
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: that have played at Wisconsin under Leonard or come from
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Georgia and play in that mint front, then that'll translate, right,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Guys that have you know, the Nolan Smiths of the world,
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Walkers of the world, c J. Allen, You know these
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: type of guys who can kind of bang and wear
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: those hats and wear those roles because you've seen them
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: do it on tape at a high level. I want
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: to go to this comment, remember how you guys want
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: to chase on? How nice would that signing me? Right now?
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: I don't think I was one of the I wasn't
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: on the chase On train, so somebody else may have
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: done that. But I don't think it was me. I
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: could be wrong. I do have a big headache and
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: it may be muddying my head. Here another one for
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: chromatic wander. Yeah, I want to circle back to this
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: about Dorian him saying wouldn't Dorian fit better as an
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: off ball thumper in this defense? I don't know if
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: he has it mentally to call the defense though, so yes,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: he would fit better as an off ball thumper. But
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: the issue is still gonna be from a coverage standpoint,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: And granted you know both him and Bernard whoever the
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: two inside linebackers are in the odd front structures that
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: they run, they're gonna send them like they're gonna be
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: blitzing them. And it depends too. If it's three down
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: and like, if it's true more of like a three
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: to four, they're gonna be blitzing those guys they're gonna
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: send them. If it's more of a five down and
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: more of like a five to two four type of alignment,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: then it's kind of playing more to what they've done
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: already a little bit. But I just don't holistically trust
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: Dorrian Williams in coverage in any way right now, whether
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: he even if the exact if the defense stayed the
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: same with mcderbin and Babbage, right even if it was
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: the exact same thing and it was like, oh, you know,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: Mlonald's gone this year, it's gonna be Dorrian and Bernard
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: at the linebacker spots. I don't trust Dorian right now
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: from a coverage standpoint. I do trust him coming forward again,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: like you said, it's like an off ball thumper. So
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: let him come downhill, plug a gap, you know, meet
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: beet a running back in the a gap, beat a
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: full back, tight end, a polar or whatever. I trust
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: him there. I trust him to send an edge from
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: a run defense standpoint, but I don't trust him in coverage.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: And he's not a one on one pass rush threat
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: off the edge, so his versatility is limited and the
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: dynamic that he brings is limited in Leonard's defense. But honestly, overall,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: he's very much a seat ball, get ball, you know,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: go be a red shell in Mario Kart type of deal.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: And I don't mean that negatively. I want to grab
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: this one from two from Drew who said, didn't Bernard
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: blitz a lot at Baylor? Does that translate to this scheme? Yes?
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: So Bernard was a very good blitzer coming out of Baylor.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: It was probably my favorite thing about him. Just would
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: absolutely detonate on guys coming forward who picked him up,
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: whether it was an offensive lineman or running back or
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: tight end or whatever. It was also effective getting the quarterback.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: I do think that will translate to this scheme. I
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: think you will see more movement in this defense, you know,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: in sims, in creepers, run blitzes, blitzes in general, just
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: overall more movement. I think it will be beneficial to Bernard.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: Torel Bernard's okay, sorry for all the movement. My head
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: aches coming back, so I'm trying to lessen it, help
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: myself out a little bit here. So sorry if I
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: look crazy on the YouTube stream right now. But Torel
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: Bernard's whole thing block deconstruction is always going to be
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: an issue for him. Right He's a smaller type of linebacker.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: He's like two hundred and twenty pounds two hundred and
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: twenty three, soaken Wet doesn't have long arms, not a
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: big build, not a big frame. I think he's one
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: of those guys who tested well from a RASP perspective,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: but I don't think he's an overall like stud of
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: an athlete. He wins by beating blockers to a spot.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: He wins by processing and then winning with foot speed
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: and angles and getting to a spot right. If at
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: offensive lineman gets attached to him, he's done. And we
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: saw that a bunch in twenty twenty five because he
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: was injured coming out of camp. He was playing with
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: a bum ankle all year and he could not beat
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: guys to spots because he didn't have the get off
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: or the juice. He couldn't plant, he couldn't cut, he
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: couldn't change direction, and then when guys did attach to him,
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: he couldn't kind of break down an anchor. He would
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: just kind of get pushed and washed and whatever would happen. Right,
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: So I think anything that gets Torel Bernard moving is beneficial.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Anything that allows him to trigger. Just send him on stuff,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: you know, whether it's like a run stunt or a
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: rum blitz or just a blitz in general, Like, let
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: him attack, set him on the move. Don't have him
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: just sitting there at the second level, bouncing on the
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: balls of his feet, waiting for an inter your offensive
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: lineman to climb to the second level and get a
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: piece of them and potentially put him in the dirt
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: or wash him out of the frame. Rob says, did
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: McDermott ever play around with a three four? They brought
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: in a few of those tweeners over the years, Smoot,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Austin Johnson, Quentin Jefferson. Every once in a while you'd
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: see like a bear front or some tight front type
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: of stuff or close to a tight front, but those
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: guys particularly, no, not really. They made Duan Smooth just
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: a traditional defensive end in their even front structures. Austin
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Johnson was a pretty decent rotational one tech, and they
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: brought him in and had him lose weight so he
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: could play the three and play the one, and he
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: just became largely useless overall. Along with Dwayne Carter, who
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: was more of a retech at duke, they had him
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: add more weight to be able to play a three
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: and a one and he became largely useless. And then
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: Quentin Jefferson was more of just an inside penetrator again
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: though more of like the inside rush that they look
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: for at their defensive tackle stuff. So every once in
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: a while they do some odd front stuff, but not
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: enough to kind of really hit home or play play
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: around with it. M Oh, I'm so sorry, Justin, I
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: did not see the super chat forgive me, thank you
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: for being here, thank you for the super chat and
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: justice as I hope Jim has enough blueberries for each muffin.
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• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: they needed a true nose tackle is keeping Bernard clean. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: that would help if you had a true nose in
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  Speaker 1: isn't going to get blown off the ball into your
• 1:02:19
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  Speaker 1: played with violence, who played with juice. It's not just
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• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: get a field. It's more of a play style and
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  Speaker 1: a skill set on top of it. But yes, for
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  Speaker 1: a point there, Charles Chromatic Wonder saying, I can see
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: us trading away a few players from mid round picks
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  Speaker 1: who guys aren't great fits. Dorian being one of them
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  Speaker 1: If you gave me a fourth round pick for Dorian Williams,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: I would take it. I would probably take it. I
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: think that's probably too high to ask. You'd probably get
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: like a fifth which is a little more questionable. But
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: if you gave me like an early day three pick
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: or somehow got a day two. I would probably take it.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: Nick saying Casino over Goodfellas, I disagree with. That's a
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: respectable take. I think Goodfellas. For me, Goodfellaws was always
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: hyped up so much before I ever saw it. That
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: I saw it and I was like, Okay, this is good,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: But I now like it was hyped to an impossible degree.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: So by the time I saw it, I was more
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: annoyed with it than I was like excited to see it.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: Whereas Casino, I'd never heard anybody talk about it, and
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: I was up late. I don't even remember how old
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: I was when I first got but I was up
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: late one night and it was on one of the
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: movie channels, or maybe it was on like TN T.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: They have a movie they play on T and T
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: a bunch all the time, but it be edited. And Yeah,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: and I saw Casino, and I thought Casino was the
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: cool thing. Plus, I love Vegas. I've been to Vegas
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: a bunch. I used to go there decently regularly, not
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: from MC gambling perspective, but just because I love Vegas
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: and the shows and the shopping and the food and
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: the strip and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, Casino
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: over Goodfellas all day for me, Casinos Casino is one
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: hundred my favorite mob movie ever, and it's a top
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: five movie for me overall. Joe says, you're both wrong.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Best mob movie is Shark Taaled ha ha ha. That's funny.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: You know what else is funny? Joe? Remember when you
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: came to Buffalo and you didn't get one pie pizza
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: and you stabbed me in the back. There you go,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: there you go, Joe. I'm sorry that you didn't deserve that. Joe,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you. You're a kind soul. Charles says casino
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: edited shame. Yeah, but I've seen it a million times
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: unedited too. I mean I have it on DVD. I've
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: watched that movie at gajillion times. God, I love that movie.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: Good Times where I want to grab this count from Jason,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: who says, can we go back in time and grab
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: ted Washington man? That would be great. Joe, stop trying
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: to blame me because you didn't get one pie pizza.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: You went late and they were sold out. That's on you.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry you chose to go elsewhere elsewhere, And Jason says,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: no way, good Fellas all the way. I yeah, I
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: recognize I'm in the minority for ranking Casino over Goodfellas
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: or even like Godfather or whatever. Yeah, I just like
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: I just like Casino. I don't think Goodfellas is bad.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: My wife loves Goodfellas. I mean I've probably seen Goodfellas
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: at this point now, like over twenty times, because I
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: mean we've been together for we started dating and then
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: have been married, but we we've been together for like
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: thirteen No, it'll be fourteen years this December. I've seen
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: Goodfellas probably worked over twenty or thirty times at this
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: point because she loves that movie. Good times, and Nicholas says, yeah,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: I think Joe catches astray about the pizza situation at
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: least once every episode one thousand percent, because if he's
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: gonna come in and you know, you know, shoot his
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: mouth off, I'm just kidding. Yeah, Joe says, they will
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: be this way until I finally have it. One thousand percent,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: until you get one pie. I am going to continue
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: to ridicule you for stabbing me in the back and
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: coming to Buffalo and not getting it, especially because you
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: said you were coming to Buffalo and you for the
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: Bills game, and you were like I gotta get one pie,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and then you didn't get it. I'm like,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: just just an op, that's what you are. If defensive
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: tackle Caleb Banks is available in the first round, would
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: you be opposed to the Bills taking him. I haven't
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: watched his tape yet, so I cannot comment from what
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: I have seen. He plays a little high which I
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: do not like. I don't know how correctable or not
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: correctable that is because I haven't watched his tape. But
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: I have not watched him yet, but that is definitely
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: one of the names that I will be working on
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: from an early standpoint. Ooh, Charles says, Bronxtail. That's my
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: brother's favorite momb movie. I believe he loves the hell
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: out of Bronxtail. That's fair. Joe says, I can't wait
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: to come back to Buffalo go to one pie and
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: then he told him not worthy of it and get
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: kicked out to have them put your picture up. So
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: when you go there, there's gonna be just mad pies
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: available and they're not going to serve you. Yeah, So
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: that makes sense for position archetypes for linebacker. Again, the
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: the hybrid nature of his linebackers at Wisconsin, and the
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: dynamics that they had were very important and meant a lot.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough to recreate that, like literally unless
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: you sign like Okay, hey we're gonna sign Leoshana, We're
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: gonna sign Jack Sanborn. You know, Hey, this is what
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: we're gonna do. It's tough to get those type of guys.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: And so I think you're probably gonna lean into more
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: of the defensive line changes and kind of supplement that
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: with one or two linebacker additions through free agency in
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: the draft. I think Leoshanow would go such a long
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: way because of all the things that he can do
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: would just be absolutely tremendous for them. That is the
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: ideal guy specifically him, but again that type of skill
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: set or play style or I should say versatility again,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: being able to wear multiple hats effectively. And if it's
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: an outside linebacker guy, it's you know, being able to
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: rush and play coverage. If it's an inside linebacker guy,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: it's being able to play downhill against the run and
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: also play coverage. Or if you're Leoshanal, you can do
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: all those things. You can line up outside, play rushing coverage,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: you can line up inside and play coverage and also
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: play downhill. That would be fantastic at the Adventures of
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: Pluto Nash Get real, guys, that's funny, Drew says, Are
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: we lacking more in the d line or linebacker? Linebacker? Yeah, linebacker,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: because even even though I think Bernard can do some
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: fun things in the defense, I'm still not completely sold
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: on Bernard because I worried about I worry so much
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: about the block deconstruction struggles, even when he had a
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: good year in twenty twenty three and even twenty twenty four.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: If dudes get their hands on him, he gets buried,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: which scares me. But he's a good coverage player, he's
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: smart as hell. But yeah, I would say linebacker in general,
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: even if everything stayed the same, you don't know who
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: you're starting. Linebacker is opposite of to Treel Bernard. If
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: it's Dorny and Williams. Bernard and Williams is a pairing
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: have questions individually and as a duo. But now that
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: you're moving to more of an odd front hybrid front
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: structure defense, yeah, you don't have enough bodies and you
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: don't have the type of bodies that you need. At linebacker.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I would I would say linebacker. I thought
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: about it for a minute, but yeah, it's linebacker. It's
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: linebacker because again it's twofold. You don't have enough bodies,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: and the bodies you do have don't tick all those hybrid, versatility,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: dynamic boxes that you need to have tick, like even
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Bernard right, Like Bernard can play coverage and that's like, Okay,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: he's not really a downhill thumper type of guy, right,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: And he's also you can blitz him, but he's not
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: going to win off the edge one on one, so
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: he can fee still works, but even he's a little
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: questionable from inter of taking every box holistically, if that
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: makes sense. Conversation, good comments. Oh man, my headache is
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: really coming back in a bad way. Last one I
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: want to talk about safety. This one for me is,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: oh I want to go back here this comment. If
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: you had to evaluate the Bills twenty twenty five draft
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: class after one year, what grade would you give? I
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: really hate doing this because I don't want to do
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: things after one year. But if I had to again,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: we'll go through the picks. I'll go individual. Max Harriston,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: I don't think counts because he was injured and didn't
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: get enough playing time. But what I did see of
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: Max Harston, I'd give Max Harriston a B to A
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: B plus. I was very encouraged by Max Harriston's play. TJ.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: Sanders again for the wonkiness. We know the variables, but TJ. Sanders,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: J J. Sanders, I'd give like a d u Landon Jackson.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: We got absolutely nothing from because of injury, so I
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: guess you can't really give him a grade, but if
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: you did, it would be low. Dion Walker, I will
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: give a B. Jordan Hancock, the Jackson Hawes B plus,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: Dorian Strong C plus maybe now C plus, Chase line Man,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: Kayden Pray there man. So overall, if I had to
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: give a drade on the drade, if I had to
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: give a grade on the whole class after one year,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: C I'm trying to think of how all those grades
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: average out, C maybe C minus. See somewhere in that range,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: maybe C plus, maybe B minus. If anybody wants to
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: tell me how everything should have averaged out, I can't
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: think great with much of my head hurts right now,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I'd say probably like a C somewhere in
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: the sea range. Low or high anywhere from a C
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: minus to a C plus. May Yeah, that's I'm saying,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: ce go and see him, go and see Drew says,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: selling Hawes short. No, I really like Jackson Hawes, but
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: he's just he's he's not enough of a pass catcher
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: right now to be a true, like dual threat in
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: that regard. If we're talking purely on as a run blocker,
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: as a run blocking tight end, oh, Jackson Hawes is
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: an A. But yeah, Spinn says, how does how does
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: Jackson Hawes not get an A plus? His role is
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: to be a blocking tight end. He did amazing as
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: a blocking tight end, and we did get something out
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: of him in the passing game. He did really good
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: as a blocking tight end. I don't think it was
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: as amazing as it maybe got put up to be.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: I heard some people talking about him as like, oh,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: he's already the best blocking tight end in football, and
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's true. I think he played well.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: I gave him a B plus. I don't think like
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: a B plus is a bad grade. But if you're
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: gonna be like an for me, if you're gonna be
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: an a tight end, you have to be like stand
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: out as a locker and as a pass catcher or
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: super stand out in one area and then enough in
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: the other. I don't think he was enough as a
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: pass catcher, although I am encouraged and I do think
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: he can do more. And yeah, Drew, I did see
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: that seam catch. It was fantastic, But that one catch
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: does not a dual threat tight end make. But I
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: think a B plus is a good grade. How is
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: that a bad grade for a rookie? And again, a plus,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: I get if you're tying it strictly to his role,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: if you're just saying, like, hey, he was a blocking
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: tight end, so we're just grading him on blocking. Yeah,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: he's an a player, but I'm grading him holistically, like
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: what can you do as a pass catcher? What can
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: you do as a run blocker? And there were also
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: times too, especially with like Dalton Kincaid being injured and
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: even when he was playing, not really being able to
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: play a ton. If Hawes was more of a pass
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: catching threat, you would have seen him be more of
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: a pass catching threat. I think he can be used
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: more as a pass catcher, but he's still limited in
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: that regard. And again, I know he blocked a lot
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: and did well as a blocker. But if you are
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: looking at you know, ideally what he could have been
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: when Kinkaid was out, or when Kikaid was playing and hurt,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: or also when Palmer was out. Think about that, right,
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: Kinkaid is out, or when he's playing, he's hurt, Palmer's out.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: Kean Coleman's not being a thing you're bringing in, Brandon cooks.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: If Haws and Knox could have been a true, like
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: standout duo in terms of blockers and pass catchers each,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: then they would have been fine. Yeah. So that's why
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: I give him a B plus, which I still think
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: is real, really good grade. Oh man, these are good questions.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: Oh and Juw says, I think we're giving him extra
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: credit for where he was drafted. Oh that's very fair.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: I mean if we're going because he was what fifth round, Yeah,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: that's fair. Like if we're talking about value, I'm talking
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: just about a great as a player as a rookie.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: If we're talking about value, Oh he's an easy eight.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: You got like a you got a regular solid contributor
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: in the fifth round. That's that's a win every day
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: of the week. Wow, Gage sing b plus is generous. No,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: I think B plus is good. Oh man, everybody each side?
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: This is interesting. I didn't know this would open up
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: such You can't. If you had to choose one poorly
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: graded player to improve the most next year and beyond,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: who would you choose? Oh boy, I guess I'm looking
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: at everybody by default. Probably TJ Sanders, Yeah, because he
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: was he was the only one who played the most. Yeah,
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: probably TJ Sanders. But I don't love that. I don't
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: love that. Good questions, this is fine. Oh that made
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: my head hurt a little bit. All this thinking is
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: making my brain hurt. Safety This one, I think is
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: pretty straightforward with safety. The biggest thing that I think
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: will be interesting to note is Denver played a bunch
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: of single high stuff. Jim Leonard kind of played a
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: bunch of single high stuff when he was at Wisconsin
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: as well. I'm expecting that to continue. And when I
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: say single high, it's multiple. So you get Cover one,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: which is single high man coverage, you get Cover three,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: which is single high zone coverage. But you're also going
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: to get match coverage elements with Jim Leonard across the board.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: No matter what coverage you're playing, he is a guy
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: who played match coverage stuff at Wisconsin, which was another
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: one of the many reasons along with the sims and
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: creepers and hybrid front structures they used, you know, many,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: many of the reasons why I loved him at Wisconsin.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: But then with playing or you know, being under Vance
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: Joseph and his staff. Again, I talked about it. I
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: read this quote a bunch, but you know, Vance Joseph
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: talking about the defense last year of you know, what
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: we do is mostly pressure up front with matchup principles
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: on the back end, with what we call we're giving
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: the player one side of the route and we preach leverage.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: If you win your leverage outside and the receiver breaks inside,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have a teammate there. It can look like man,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: but it's not man. That's the beauty of what we do.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: That is the secret. Oh, Jim Leonard, from his time
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: at Wisconsin and from his time in Denver, a lot
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: of match coverage stuff, whether it's single high or it's
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: too high. But they played a bunch of single high
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: in Denver. I wonder how that much or how much
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: of that translates to the Bills defense. If they do
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: man yeah, spinn says it right here. We could have
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: had Bishop in Wattson, we would have been set on
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: safeties one thousand percent. The archetype here is purely simple.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: There is fairly simple. I think cold Bishop is good
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: comment about Macoobah, Yeah, fair I think cold Bishop. I
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: said this multiple times, Cold Bishop, and that is at
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: his best in and around the line of scrimmage. I
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: think he had improved as a deeper safety in both
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: single high and split field looks. I'm not saying to
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: completely stop him from doing that, just like I'm not
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: saying to get a pure center fielder type of guy
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: who can't play down. But I think taking cold Bishop
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: and having him play as more of a down safety
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: as much as possible, have him play in and around
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: the box, in and around the line of scrimmage, in
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: between the numbers, as more of a big nickel apex
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: off ball robber, buzz sky safety, all that kind of stuff.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: I think that sets him up more for success than
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: anything else. I think he would just literally just he's
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: kind of kind of was this a little to a degree,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: but even more so the Bill's version of Ufanga of
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: telling O Hufanga, which who is the safety that the
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: Broncos brought in this past year. So again more of
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: an enforcer box safety, come downhill, let him do stuff.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: As Charles says, and I've said this before on the
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: show too, Charles says in the Perfect World, I love
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: two new safeties with Bishop of the slot post chairon
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: Johnson era one thousand percent. I think this isn't just
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: bills related, but this is you know, NFL meta like
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: large scale league trend type stuff. For me, I think
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  Speaker 1: big nickels are this are going to be the scaleon
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: keys for defenses. Before, if you had a big nickel,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: it was more like, okay, that's cool, helps you do
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: different things. But you could just have a regular nickel
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: that could play the run and be fine. That's why
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: Terreon Johnson was great. That's why Mike Hilton was great.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: That's why Kenny Moore was great. You had these true
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: nickels who could play coverage man a zone to varying
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: degrees and that could come forward and fit the run
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: and you'd be fine and you never had to leave
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: nickel right And if you had a big nickel, it
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: was cool, but they'd get subbed out more. Now with
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: the run game, mattering again and being at a premium
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: for offenses and offenses going condensed and using heavier personnel
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: groupings in formations and trying to dictate personnel for defenses
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: based off that having a big nickel somebody that allows
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: you to fight fire with fire in the run, in
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: the pass against almost any personnel grouping is huge, And
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: that also allows you to play situations more than playing
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: personnel right instead of saying like, okay, they're in twenty
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: two personnel, but you know it's second down and they
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: pass sixty percent of the time on second down, So
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: do we really want to play for the run against
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: the heavy even though the heavy should kill us against
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: the run and is more of a run indicator. Are
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: they trying to go heavy to suck us up and
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: bring and invite bodies forward so they can get us
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: in the past, or they trying to do some you know,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: some rams stuff where it's like, hey, we're going with
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: thirteen personnel, but we're doing it to throw the football.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: So I think having a big nickel is just a
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: skeleton key for you allah. And you know, Kyle Hamilton's
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: in Unicorn, but look at what Kyle Hamilton's done for
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: the Ravens defense. Look at what Jalen Petrie has done
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: for the Texans defense, right, These big nickels that allow
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: you to fight fire with fire personnel wise or situationally.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: I think whole Bishop has the chance to be that guy.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: That's what I thought his best fit was coming out
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: of Utah, because that's kind of what he played as
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: at Utah was like an apex, big nickel, monster man
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: type of dude. But yeah, I would love him to
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: be that for the Bills post Aaron Johnson era, which
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: may be closer than we think potentially. Nicholas Oh Nicholas
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: college safety talking about Genesis Smith from Arizona. I watched
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: one game of Genesis Smith, very fluid center fielder. Love
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: him in the post. I don't like him coming forward,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: I don't like his angles to the ball, and I
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: don't like him as a tackler. But I'm only one
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: game in, so we'll see. I also really like Trad
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: and Stukes, who is ironically kind of more of a
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: big nickel, but he can play some safety stuff too.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: Oh Joey says, I saw you on a different show
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: the other day as a guest. Yeah, I've been on
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: a couple different things, so you probably see me around,
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: appreciate you coming over here. Carlos's Cooper Dejeen and Cole
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: Bishop handshake. Gage says, what is a big nickel size wise,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: and then Drew says nick for the Seahawks. Yeah, so
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: think of Kyle Hamilton, nick Em and Worry. You could
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: kind of throw Cooper Degen into that mold a little
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: bit too, but essentially it is it's it's a defensive back.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: They kind of think of it as like a third
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: safety who just has athleticism to him. So for if
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: you're thinking from a size wise standpoint, two hundred plus
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: pounds but still athletic, you're not looking for a pure thumper,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: but you're looking for a guy who can move a bit,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: who can play coverage, but who can also play the run.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: So yeah, think Kyle Hamilton, think nick Em and Worry.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: Cooper gin I think can fall into the big nickel
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: role or world as well. But yeah, you're thinking of
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: like I would say, roughly two hundred plow pounds plus.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Kyle Duggart can kind of fit big nickel
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: type of deal. He's maybe a little more limited in
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: coverage than you'd like but yeah, essentially big nickel is
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: like a a safety size but with athleticism in good coverage.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: Is the easiest way to kind of put him. Oh yeah,
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: or as Gage says, yeah and everything and everything backer. Yeah,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: like a uh, A smaller Matt Milano would be a
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: sweet big nickel. Like a two hundred and seven or
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: eight pound Matt Milano would be a sick big nickel.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: That's a good way to think of it. Yeah, but
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: where are we probably look at screen because there's an
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: archetype safety. So yeah, I say all that and answer
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: all these questions to say, oh yeah, Charles says Devin Witherspoon,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: I think Devin Witherspoon is more of a true nickel.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: But he plays like he's six foot two, two hundred
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: and thirty pounds. He hits like a freight train, and
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: he deconstructs blocks, and he doesn't have that dog in him.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: He's got I don't know, a wolverine in him. He's
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: just an absolute monster, which is so crazy that they've
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: got him and Nick m and Worry as nickel options
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: and then they can leave him both on the field
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: with what Job and Woolen do on the outside, Like
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: man that Seattle defense is so cool. Yeah, I think
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: you need a pair of cole Bishop with a range
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: based ball hawking safety. Ideally, someone who's very comfortable as
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: a single high safety playing in the post can go
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: you know, numbers to numbers or you know, middle of
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: the field to the sideline as much as you can.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: Someone who's good reading route distributions, can read the quarterback shoulders,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: understands route concepts, how to drive and how to slice,
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: and then two high stuff too obviously you know, being
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: able to play those covered structures as well, but can
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: play and match, can play a man a little bit.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: Has to be good coming forward with their angles and
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: play in the run. It can't be completely silent, right.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: It can't be somebody who's all range and all coverage
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: and can't tackle and can't be in the box, right,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: because then you're just that's cool that you have a
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: cool pairing of safety that compliments one another. But if
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: there's that siloed, you're not helping yourself, right, As somebody
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: said earlier, I forget who had said it. Yeah, I
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: think Spin said it in the chat. If you had
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: Xavier Watts, you'd be set. That would be sick like
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: there's your post safety who can tackle. You're good too
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: high single high. He can play in the box. That
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: will be nasty. I really do. I thought they needed
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: this type of skill set again a rain. The way
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep speaking about it and coining it is
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: a range based ball hawking safety. I think they needed
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: that to pair with Bishop, even if everything stayed with
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: the defense of McDermot and Babbage State. But even more
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: so now if you're gonna play more single high, you
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: need uh, you need Kaylen Bullock. You need Kaylen Bullock,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: like the safety four the Texans. Oh I'm glad, actually
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: Drew said this. Drew said, but Watts runs a four
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: to six. I didn't remember what his forty time was.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: But don't get caught up with with like forty times
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: or time speed for like uh, like, oh, this guy
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: runs a four to six. He can't have range, he
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: can't cover ground. Micah Hyde tremendous safety from the post,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: tremendous coverage safety deep. Not the best athlete, not the
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: fastest dude, wasn't some ninety seven speed Madden type of dude.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: But he knew how to take angles to the ball
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: in the air. He knew how to read route distributions,
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: and he knew how to read quarterbacks. That is absolutely tremendous.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it'd be sick if you add a safety
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: who like, oh okay runs a four to four right
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: or if he runs a four or five, that's awesome,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: But it's man. That's why I kind of mentioned it
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: in like the skill set pieces that I'm looking for, right,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: it is it's about the processing. So much about safety
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: is two things. It's angles coming forward and going back right,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: so angles to the ball, angles to the catch point
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: angles and your ball tracking all that kind of stuff,
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: and angles coming forward from two high structures and from
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: single high If you are that single high post safety,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: are you able to I can't believe you just took
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: my headphones out. Are you able to kind of run
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: that banana route type of deal from a single high
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: fit the run, be able to make the play right,
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: whether you're coming up and plugging it or taking the
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: good angle and shutting it down. If you're playing from
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: a two high structure, are you able to come and
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: fit the sea gap or whatever your type you're fitting,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: whether you're legit playing too high and you're kind of
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: running with seven man spacing, or if you're playing eight
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: man spacing and you're spinning down from the snap, angles
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: matter a lot. So time speed is great. It's awesome
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: to have that time speed. That's not the end all
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: be Also, don't don't think because you have your you're
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: a fast dude, you can have good range, because if
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: you can't process all the time speed in the world
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter at all. I want to grab this. Oh
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: it's fair from Jim Jacks. It turns into a four
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: to four if you know where you're going one. I know.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: I think you asked this multiple times Devanaday saying what
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: do you think about Exavier and WAPA from I think
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: from Iowa as what you mentioned earlier. I haven't finished safety,
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: so I started with I started with the Arizona duo.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 1: I started with Genesis Smith and Trading Stoops. From there,
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: I'm going to Bud Clark from TCU and then my
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: waking from there. I kind of do everybody in groups
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: of three, So start with those three safeties and then
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: working my way from there. So I have not made
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: it past. I'm still on with all the coaching change stuff.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: I've been diving in all this stuff with Leonard and
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: getting more things together. I've been diving into Javali stuff.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: The DB's coach Oklahoma, who I am absolutely stoked on.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: I am close to being I shouldn't say close, because
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: I love Leonard. I am extremely hyped for Javali, the
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: Bills DB's coach who's coming from Oklahoma, and I think
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: he's somebody who could be waiting in the wings to
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: take over his defensive coordinator. Should Jim Leonard get promoting,
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: go elsewhere. But yeah, I'm not there on other safety,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: so forgive me. I apologize. As Nichola says, great comment here,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: elite processing with average speed over average processing with elite
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: speed for safeties. What a fair common here from chromatic
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: Wanders saying I love Kamari Ramsey. He can play either
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: safety and playing the slot. Yeah, dude from USC If
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: I remember correctly, I think he had I put him
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: into the second bucket, be puz or not second bucket,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: but not into the first bucket because yeah, I was
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: gonna say, because he got Yeah, he was hurt this
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: past year and majority of the snaps were like in
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: the slot. And I was already doing that for Stokes
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: in the first group from Arizona so I was like, Okay,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put Ramsey on the back burner for that.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: But yeah Fair six foot, two hundred plus pounds. Oh god,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: I would trade so much for Caleb Downs. You have
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: no idea. I know, safety isn't the biggest need, right
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: The Bills need a receiver, the Bills need premier edge
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: pass rusher. They could do some interior stuff, they could
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: use a linebacker. I would trade so much to get
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: Caleb Downs in round one. God, he's just so good
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: man and just a can do anything at safety, which
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: is sick, but yeah, I'd be sick. But yeah, so
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: that's the archetype for safety. I think you need a
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: ballhawk range based safety. I'm not completely ruling out Jordan Hancock,
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: but I just think he needs more time on task.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: You know, he played a mix of like big nickel
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: and safety at Ohio State because of Ransom and Caleb
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: Downs being the other safeties there and how they used
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: those two guys. I just think he needs more time
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: on task. I like his speed, I like the juice
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: that he plays with. He's a physical tackler, but I
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: think he's just struggling reading the game from depth right
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: now at this point from a pass cut, from a
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: pass standpoint, and from a run standpoint, his angles aren't there,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: his processing isn't there. Yeah, I like Hancock. I don't
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: want to go into twenty twenty six with the plan
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: being Jordan Hancock at safety, and then I don't think
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: Taylor Rap was you know, the menace that he was
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: made out to be. I know, all the friendly fire stuff. Hah.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: You know, he was injured playing all year and that's
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: why his angles of the ball were rough. But I'm
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: probably gonna cut if if I had the choice, I
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: would cut Taylor Rap. I feel bad saying that, because again,
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: I never want to advocate for somebody losing their job.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: But you can save like three mil and cut Taylor Rap,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: and it's it's you know, six hundred thousand or seven
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: hundred thousand in dead caps. So I'm probably I would
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: vote to cut Taylor Rap. And I'm just not putting
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: my chips into Jordan Hancock right now. I'm cool with
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: Hancock being safety three, continuing to learn, but I think
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: you either draft the starting safety or you sign one.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna cost too much on the open market,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: but I like the idea of Kobe Bryant safety from
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks. He can play in the post, he
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: can play match coverages, he has played nickel before. He
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: can play down safety. That would be sweet, But I
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: think Kobe Bryant's gonna cost too much. I think He's
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: gonna get like fifteen to twenty million dollars a year,
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: might even honestly hit twenty depending on what the what
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: the rest of the market looks like. Because of what
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: he's done in this defense and the rep that the
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: Seattle defense has. I also know that Seattle, I think
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: wants to keep him, so maybe he might get paid
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: to stay there. But yeah, you need a ballhawk, range
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: based safety, guys who make plays in the ball, guys
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: who understand route distributions, can process from depth, take good
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: angles to the ball, good angles to receivers, good angles
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: coming forward. And your sound tacklers. Kobe Bryant's mistackle rate
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: doubled this year versus last year, but he still had
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: some really sound tackles, and I think he's a good
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: tackler overall. So that kind of messes with that a
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: little bit for me. But those are the archetypes that
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: I'm mainly focusing on right now and how they'll change.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: So we've got again, We've got hold on. Oh, Charles says,
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: I know you love Miami. How aust miss Kiante Scott,
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: Keante Scott is so thick, Keyante Scott, Rubin Bain and
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: a Keem Mesador nasty, They're so good. And yes, Scott
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: especially is a blitzer from the slot. Man. Kiante Scott
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: is sick, is absolutely sick, one of my favorite players
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: watching this year. I was so hyped to watch Miami's
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: defense this year because Baine was healthy. He wasn't healthy
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: last year when he was a true sophomore in two
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: years ago as a true freshman, well three years ago.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: Now he was so good. But I was so hyped
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: for Bain and then Mesador and even like Molten on
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: the interior, like they had some dues. They brought in
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: two new safeties which both worked out, Poyser and Jacoby Thomas.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: And then they had the rookie Bryce Fitzgerald who so
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: many interceptions this year and played so well. But Kiante
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: Scott was super good, super super good. You know me, Charles,
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: should I reasonably the Bills defense to be better in
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six than in twenty twenty five. Yes, I
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: think at worst, the only way this defense isn't like
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: a very good defense or a good defense is if
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: they can't get the right body types in to fully
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: be what Jim Leonard wants them to be. But I
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: believe in Jim Leonard so much in terms of installing
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: and building a sound scheme and being flexible with his
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: game planning and calls that like worst case scenario, I
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: do think this defense as a run defense and as
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: a pass defense worst case scenario, as I see this
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: defense being middling, like I see this defense is like
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: worst case scenario, like fourteenth to eighteenth overall and not like,
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: oh they're fourteenth eighteenth because they're seventh against the pass,
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: but they're twenty ninth against the run. I don't think
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. I think worst case scenario, they're all
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: be overall and middling defense. But that would be better
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: than what they were this past year because they were
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: futrid against the run, and I think some of their
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: past stuff was a little inflated. But I think you
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: should reasonably expect the Bills defense to be better. If
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  Speaker 1: they're not, I will be disappointed because I'm not even
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: reasonably expecting them to be I am expecting them to
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: be a better defense in twenty twenty six and twenty
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: twenty five, and not just because I wanted Jim Leonard
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: for three years. Drew says, if you can splurge on
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: one free agent for this defense, it has to be
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: the defense. Oh man, I need the whole list of
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: like free agents and I'm playing. I guess it's define splash,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: like splash for the Bills, because that's different than a
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: splash for kind of anyone else. Probably Kobe Bryant is
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: up there. I'm looking at a list of guys right now.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: Oh if I Oh no, here's my answer. If I
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: could splurge on one guy, so realistic splurge David Anyamata
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: or John Franklin Myers, I think that's like a splash
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: or a splurge, but more realistic, high end for their
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: position grouping type of splurge. Kobe Bryant at safety. Trey
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: Hendrickson is a UFA, which is fun. I would go
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: for Jalen Phillips. I would go for Jalen Phillips, former
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: edge from the Miami Dolphins, currently on the Philadelphia Eagles
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  Speaker 1: or I guess a UFA as of this point. Now
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: I believe yeah, through the UFA. What I've seen. Jalen Phillips,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: I know he just he works in an odd front
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  Speaker 1: already gives you a premier guy off the edge. I
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: would splash for Jalen Phillips. Splurge, splurge, splurge. Oh yeah,
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: you did say splurge, not splash, But that would be
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: a splash. Oh you know what a splash. The best
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: pizza in Buffalo, New York that is one pie pizza.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: Don't be like Joe de Rosa, Cover one member, frequent
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: disguise coverage watcher and live comment or, don't be like
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: Joe de Rosa who came up to Buffalo for a
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: Bills game and didn't get one pie pizza. Like an
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: absolute op and a backstabber, he did not get one
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: pie pizza. Don't be like Joda Rosa. When you come
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: to Buffalo, get yourself some of the best pizza in
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: Buffalo and in the country at one pie pizza. If
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: you are living in Buffalo, why are you not getting
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: yourself some one pie pizza? Get yourself some one pie pizza.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: Sweet sauce, pie cup and char pepperoni, great cheese, the
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: sauce ratio. If you get different toppings, they chop them
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: up evenly and sprinkle them over across the entire pie.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: Homemade blue cheese that is phenomenal. They do a great
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: breakfast pizza. They have a catering division that they can
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: do different events for you. Anything you got and you
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: can get, you can get the pizza for that stuff.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: They do really good salads. They do good like main
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: dishes like chicken and rice, and different kinds of mac
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: and cheeses. They are phenomenal in every way, shape and form.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: I've had a bunch of family. Well I get one
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: pie decently regularly anyway, but I like, I eat so
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: horribly in the winter, so I kind of like take
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: a break from the pizza, which is hard for me.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: But I've had a lot of I had some families
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: staying with us this past weekend. I've got some more
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: family coming in the weekend after this, after upcoming, and
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: so anytime anybody comes in, we get one pie to
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: kind of be like, hey, like this is the best
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: pizza in Buffalo, Like you should have some, which is awesome.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: So like I got one pie last week, gonna have
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: them get Oh yes, Rob says, all right, I'll try.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: You need to get some one pie pizza. Don't be
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: like Joda Rosa. Don't be like Joda Rosa and not
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: get one pie pizza. You are missing out. Your taste
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: buds are missing out, and the ones you love are
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: missing out. Share that joy with everyone. Right the super
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: bowls this weekend. Maybe you're gonna be super upset because
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: the stupid Patriots are in the super Bowl again, make
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: yourself feel better. What's some one Pi pizza? Right right?
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: Maybe watch the super Bowl You're like, oh man, I
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: hate the Patriots, but this pizza is so good that
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: I forgot about I forgot about the hate. Or let
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: the hate fuel you into the deliciousness of the pizza.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: You will not You will not be disappointed getting yourself
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: some one pie pizza. They're really good people making really
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: good food. And I say they're really good people because
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: I know them and I know all the initiatives and
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: drives and everything that they do for the city of
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: Buffalo in the community at large. So they're great. Get
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: yourself from one Pi pizza. Your taste buds will thank you.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: The city in the community at large, will thank you
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: get yourself some one pie pizza asap. I'm gonna throw
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: up the banner here, but we're gonna grab some comments here.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: I'm going back, Jason says, and are you okay with
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: a trade for Marvin Harrison Junior? Obviously justin Jefferson would
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: be better. But could that trade help us? Or do
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: you think he's a bus or just not a number
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: one wide receiver? You know what's crazy. I haven't watched
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: a ton of Cardinals offense. I don't understand what's going
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: on with Marvin Harrison. I just thought he was such
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: a high floor guy and so good in a multitude
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: of ways that he would be fine. I think he's
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: got the yips. I think a change of scenery could
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: help him. I would welcome Marvin Harrison Junior into Buffalo
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: off of just what I've seen from different training camp
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: stuff and routing guys up in the season. I think
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: he's got the yips. I think a change the scenery
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: would do him good. I would welcome Marvin Harrison Junior,
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: especially if you can get him. I just don't know
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: what you're be able to get him for, right, Like,
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: if you are what's Arizona gonna give him up for
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: like they just spent a high one on him recently.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: Are they give him for a third? I think and
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: ask for a two. It's tough to sell off a
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: high first round pick after two years and get Oh,
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: like what do you have to give up to get him?
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: But I would welcome Marvin Harrison Junior. Yeah, Rob, you're
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: spot on here. You said I heard Joe eats pizza
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: with a fork. Yeah, Joe's in the comments, but he's lying.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: I've seen Joe eat pizza with a fork on multiple occasions.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: It's so weird. Yeah, Joe is a Joseph Fork user
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: for pizza all day. Fork and knife guy. He just sits,
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: he cuts it up. Yeah, like George Costanza with a
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: chocolate bar or whoever it is with the chocolate bar. Yeah,
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: Joe's It was the weirdest thing. You should see Joe, Yeah,
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: because he Uh. I was in New York City with
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: Joe one time. We were walking and we got out.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: We got a New York Slice and Joe was like, oh,
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: you guys are only forks and knives, and We're all
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: like what. Yeah, Joe on the streets of New York
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: was sitting there eating his pizza with a fork and
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: knife like a herb. Mm hmmm mmmmm, Ronald. Ronald says, Uh, Anthony,
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: I have a question. Do you think they will stand
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: at Oliver up on the inside as part of their
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: new system? Thank you kindly for your time, service and videos. Oh,
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: I appreciate the kind of words. Thank you. I'm glad
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: you enjoyed them. Yes, I expect a lot of fun
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: things with that. All around this defense, I expected him
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: to I expect him to be stood up on the
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: inside on non passing down in distances third down specifically,
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: but non passing down in distances or true or non
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: passing situations or true dropback situations. I expect him to
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: be stood up on the inside. I expect him to see,
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: you know, some stand up stuff on the outside, you know,
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: as like a true edge like again I'll broncos you know,
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Cooper Nick Benito style. You know, I expect to
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: see him as like five tech or even as you know,
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: like seven line him up outside kind of let him
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: work a little bit. I think that would be cool.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: I expect to see that. I expect to see good
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: versatility from him. Ah, this is a good comment from Nick. Yeah,
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: Joe's all. Yeah, you watched that episode when I was
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: on Joe's Joe Show under review. Yeah, where he's talking
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: about going to all these forbidden gates and temples and
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: doing all these things that you're not supposed to do.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: He would go there instead of going to one pie pizza.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: Oh Jesus, is probably a third or fourth, that's what
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: being reported. I would give a fourth every day of
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: the week for Marvin Harrison Junior right now. Spin says,
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: I pisa with a spoon. That's a challenge. Would Jaquan
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: Brisker fit at safety in Leonard's defense, Yes, but I
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: think he's more down safety than range baseball hawk safety.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: I think he's more like for like with Bishop than
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: he is different. Wouldn't hate it, but I don't think
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: the complimentary aspect works as well. But he's athletic, he
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: has some range, and he can play in the box.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: But I think it's more same than it is different.
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: Jim talking about Joe saying he uses ranch instead of
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: blue cheese. Yeah, Joe, he's funny. Joe carries ranch with
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 1: him at all times. When he gets pizza, he pours
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: the ranch on it and then he eats the pizza
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: with a fork and knife as it's covered in ranch.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: It's the weirdest thing. It's the weirdest, weirdest, weirdest thing.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: M m mmmm oh. Nick says, Joe is definitely a man.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: The chat has just turned on you, Joe. This is crazy.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: Joe's definitely a pineapple pizza guy. I've had pineapple on piece.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: I think it's good. Don't yell at me. Danny says,
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: where do you see group fitting in? I see him
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: fitting in as a stand up edge rusher, a la
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Cooper, a lah Nick Bonito in these odd front
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: type of looks. I think I'll drop into coverage every
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: now and again, because he can do that, and he's
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: shown he's showed me he can be pretty adept at
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: doing that. I think they might reduce him down inside
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: in some sub packages and some known passing down in
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: distances or situations or true dropback situations. I like that,
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: and I think that could help him a little bit.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: I still do think you need a true edge one
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: as a pass rusher to pair him with. I think
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: he's more of a Robin than he is a batman
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: as a pass rusher. Again, much like I said last year,
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: I'm still in that same boat. And I think Joey Bosa,
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: until he got hurt, very much was the batman to
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: Groots Robin. But then he got hurt and the wheels
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: fell off and everything kind of went away, which was really,
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: really really unfortunate. But yeah, I think RU will fit
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: and find him be good. Joseph's misinformation. No, that's not
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: true at all, Jason says, any updates on our athletic
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: or training staff, I think they're keeping if I remember correctly,
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: they're keeping like the same staff. Because being made some
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: comment about like the self inflicted injuries and then everybody
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: was like, well, why did you bring back the same staff?
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: Claud says Joey Bosa didn't doesn't fit in this defense, right,
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, not really. He's more of a four down
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: and even on edge rusher than he is. More of
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: an odd front type of guy. You know, you could
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: use him on the edge, but you're just not gonna
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: want to drop him a lot. But I mean, hey,
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: Khalil Mack has done it and he's not a dropper.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: Khalil Mack would be interesting to bring in again. Not
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: a juice guy, but Khalil Mack is just still awesome. Uh?
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: Has that Oliver got some Chris Jones in him as
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: a three four end?
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: I just think that's too lofty. I mean Chris Jones
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: was borderline like defensive MVP level for several years. I
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: don't think Ed has been that or maybe even has
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: that in him. So I'm gonna say no. But he's
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: got upside Ka Moore, he says, how about the safety
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: from Oregon to Peril? Bishop oh Dylan Dylan Daneman who yeah,
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: from who went from Purdue to Oregon this past year.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: I have to watch tape on him. I want to
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: know how much of his range is there because I
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: think he played a lot of like three high safety,
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: you know, Tampa player type stuff, playing top down, so
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: I have questions on it. I have to watch him. Uh,
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: within his skill set, but I think he's more for me.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: I think he's more like Bishop than he is rangey
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: ballhawk guy, which again he's athletics, so it could work.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: But I have to watch the tape on b B.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: Comment from Nate on Facebook, who says, who do you
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: one think? And to wish is our wide receiver one
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: next year? Oh Man who do. I wish. I wish
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: it was Alec Pierce, just because from the realistic standpoint,
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: right he's a free agent, he can be had, but
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: he's gonna cost too much money. So I wish it
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: was Alec Pierce. I've just really liked him also, coming
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: out of Cincinnati, I've liked for years. I think it's
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: gonna be a rookie from the draft. I just think
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be too hard for Actually, you know what, now,
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick kind of what I've been saying. I
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: think I think the Bills are gonna trade for a
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: wide receiver one. I don't know who it is. I
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: don't necessarily I don't want a J. Brown because I
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: don't know. It just seems like you can't quit on Philly.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: But to each their own, I think they're gonna trade
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: for a wide receiver one. I just don't know who,
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: and I don't know from where. I'd like Chris o'labe. Oh,
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: a lot of wide receiver comments coming in ted Hurst.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: Jeremy Bernard, fair fair, fair, fair, fair, fair fair. Yeah,
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: we'll see it's gonna be fun whatever they Oh. Charles
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: says he is on the Denzel Boston train I have not.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: The only wide receiver I've watched so far is Casey Concepcion,
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: who I like, don't love, but I like him. Oh
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: I want to so, Jason says, No, A J. Brown,
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: we don't need Digs two point zero. I'm still gonna
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: I know how everything ended with Diggs. Diggs is the
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: Diggs is just ultra competitive and wants to win. Like Diggs,
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: leaving Buffalo for me was more akin to somebody getting
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: a better job offer elsewhere for more money and thinking
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: that that company was better, so they wanted to leave
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: their current job and go get that new job. AJ
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: Brown I think is more like I don't want to
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: say this because I don't know him and I'm not
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: in Philly like that, but like, I think his motivations
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: are more selfish than they are competitive. But we'll see,
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see, we'll see. Who Curtiss, how much
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: would you trade for Justin Jefferson A decent chunk. I
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: would rather trade more for Miles Garrett. But I don't know.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: I see my thing I don't. I don't think they
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: need Justin Jefferson if they got him sick, I don't
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: think they need that high of a wide receiver. One.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: You just need a wide receiver one. You just need
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: to have that. Or it could be a high end
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: wide receiver two, you just need that. At the top
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: of the depth star you need somebody with a vertical
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: presence and who can win one on one. That's it.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: Somebody who's a threat to the point where they're like, uh, oh,
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: we got to cover that guy. Which is why it
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: makes me iffy on how much I trade for Justin Jefferson,
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: because obviously Justin Jefferson is sick, like he's either the
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: first or second best receiver in the NFL. But like,
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: would Justin Jefferson being on their team be awesome? Absolutely?
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: Do they need him? No, like they just need they
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: just need a wide receiver one or a high end two.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. But I would trade a decent
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: chunk for Justin Jefferson because that would be insane. Oh, man,
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin would be sick, Charles, I would love Terry McLaurin.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: Oh that made my head hurt. I yelled too lovely.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: Terry mcclorran would be sick. I love Terry McLaurin. I
• 1:50:56
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  Speaker 1: Hope you folks enjoyed this episode. We will continue to
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  Speaker 1: those things I will probably look again to incorporate film
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm excited. Fun stuff. A lot of unknowns
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