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NFL Week 18 Saturday Slate | Start/Sit, DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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All system's going clear the left up? What's up? Every one? Tyler
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Tamberline here aka Totag and Tambo back for the first of the next three Saturdays.
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We'll be here at this time ten a m. Eastern breaking down these
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two game slates. Starting it this week. We've got Pittsburgh, Baltimore,
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Houston, Indie talk through the games, mention our thoughts, how we see
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it, the overview for the slate, and then of course we'll go position
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by position to try and frame it up for what we think the field will
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be doing, what we can do to get different angles of attack, and
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just things that we can find edges on for this slate. For you guys,
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overdouble that over five thousand. So I appreciate everyone. Hope everyone's having a
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great new year. Back here with my guy Hoop as always, Hoopster,
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bring you in, man, it's gonna be a fun next few couple saturdays.
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I know that you're waiting on these Lions, but we don't got the
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Lions today, so we'll wait on that one. Yeah. Yeah, It's
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an interesting week, obviously, this last week this season, but it's an
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exciting time because we know what's right on the corner and it's NFL Playoff football,
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NFL Playoff best ball streets. But it's an exciting time. And you know,
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this week there's a lot of big names sitting out. There's a lot
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of you know, extreme value plays. There's gonna be a lot of surprises
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going into inactives tomorrow. It's kind of a wild situation, but you know,
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we can find some advantages. And then we got the playoffs, like
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I said today, we got the two games slate the next few weeks.
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Like you said, they're probably gonna split them up. I'd assume the site
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so it will be a main slate on Saturday, be a mainslate on Sunday.
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Next week they're gonna have the Monday night football game. So well,
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if you covered for all of it, we'll have shows for each slate as
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well, like Tampbell said, will be here, same place, same time
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the next at least two Saturdays next week, the week after. See what
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the schedule kind of looks like. Moving forward, but very exciting times.
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PGA back in full swing. We launched a couple of new packages, PGA
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specific packages. The content has been on fire over there, a lot of
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members, a lot of success, so it's a fun ride looking forward to
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these next few weeks and beyond. Yeah, talked about the PGA only options.
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I'll pull those up quickly, but just to mention it too, while
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you're there, you said it like, So next weekend the wildcard schedules up.
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It's just who's going to play in it. So Saturday, same as
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today, it's got the four to thirty game, the eight fifteen game for
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the wildcard round. On Saturday, it's got similar on Sunday, two games
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at one o'clock and four thirty, and then on Sunday night there is another
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game. So three games next Sunday Monday you mentioned it, it's gonna be
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the one game for the wildcard round. The weekend after is a divisional round.
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That's where it's to be determined. But it does show two games on
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Saturday, two on Sunday the typical setup, and then on Sunday the Conference
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championships the following week. That's my birthday, January twenty eighth, so it's
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gonna be a good Sunday for that. I always have some fun on that
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day, so excited to have some football there. Those are my favorite games
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of the entire year. Because I said this to someone yesterday, but I
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just love the Conference championships. It's funny how it works, but it's almost
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like in DFS terms, who if you sometimes like getting to a live final
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is the biggest deal, like for a lot of people myself include I know,
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when I got to my first one, it's like you finally made it.
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These people have been playing their whole lives, a lot of them trying
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just to get to a super Bowl to play in the game they dreamed of
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since they were a small kid, playing and getting into the game. And
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then the Super Bowl is always fun and awesome. But you know, depending
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on the teams and whatnot, but in general, it's a great game and
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the parties to go with it. But I love the weekend of the conference
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championship. So that's the schedule for you guys. We got it there.
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Hoopster mentioned it. If you guys didn't know, PGA is back, As
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he said, if you caught it in full swing, you like that one.
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So who I'm learning on the fly. I mean, I've been at
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this for almost a decade. But man, you're never You're never too old
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to continue to learn, right, That's what they like. What's the thing
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it's like learning is a lifelong sigh. I don't know the same thing actually,
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hoop is the more you learn, the more you earn. As we
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like to say, what's the different saying, But I'm trying to hear the
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PGA course speaking of learning that does come with all of the packages here,
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whether you go weekly, monthly, or the season pass. If you use
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the code PGA ten, you can use this on anything. You can use
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this on the all access as well if you do want all the sports.
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But just to note here, if you use PGA ten, this will end.
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I believe we said next week, We're gonna check it out when we
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get there on the Golf Show next week. But if you use the CODEPGA
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ten, whether it's on the PGA packages or the main all access for every
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sport, you will get ten percent off your first month, six month annual
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or in the gall streets the season pass you get it for as little as
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one seventy nine and change. That works out to about five dollars per event.
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But I thought that was funny you brought up because in that PGA course,
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w Hoop had another banger. He said, if someone is popular down
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low, you should find somewhere else to go, talking about cheap chok when
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it comes to golf. So you're on a hoop, You're getting it.
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It took to week eighteen, but you were working on it. You were
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progressing your game with the wordplay. As the week goes on, let's start
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talking about this NFL slate. Shout out to TX Scratch DFS is my kid's
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first birthday is the twenty eight. That's gonna be a great Sunday, my
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friend. Appreciate you guys hit that like, if you're just joining us,
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let's get into it. Hoop do. As always, the grand scheme overview
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for us pretty clear cut. I think this week. I mean there's big
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weather in the first game, not a lot of implications on the Baltimore side,
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or none, I should say, and then in the Houston Indie game,
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huge implication. So talk to us about this this slate in general as
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a hole. Okay, So you have three teams that have everything in the
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world to play for, and then you have one team that has absolutely nothing
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to play for in the Ravens that start with them locked into the number one
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seed. They're at home here. The weather looks to be pretty shitty.
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Let's just see if we can get an updated the most recent forecast from guy
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Kevin Roth over at Rodo Grinder. See what he has to say about this
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game. It is. It's gonna be pouring pregame early in the game,
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it might taper off a little bit, but it's gonna be very wet and
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ten to fifteen mini hour wins with gusts twenty five to thirty five. So
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for a team that has nothing to play for and they have to, you
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know, endure this this crappy weather situation in the Ravens, man it's a
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it's an interesting situation. They're gonna want to get the hell out of this
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one. So that's why you see this low total. It's sitting at thirty
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four and a half in the Steelers Ravens game. Then you go to that
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Texans Colts game in a dome, sitting at forty eight, which is it
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looks like the highest total on the entire slate. Yeah, it's right there
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besides Buffalo Miami the highest total on the slate too. Say, we know
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what's gonna happen on the slate. All the ownership is going to go to
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Houston and Indy and probably rightfully, so, I mean, there is a
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lot of unknowns in that ball Timore game. We've seen situations like this in
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the past where a team is locked into the number one seed, nothing to
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play for. Last week this season, and they just get the ball and
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just run it every single time, and then if they don't get a first
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time, they'll just punt it and it just they want to kill the clock
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and get the hell out of here. Ravens could take that approach definitely,
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and that is the risk with trying to get unique and playing guys in that
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game. On the Steelers side, again, they have everything to play for,
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like they need to win. Not very likely they get in the playoffs,
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but they will be. It's the first game of the slate. They
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don't know what any of the other teams are going to do tomorrow, so
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they're playing all out. Mason Rudolph quarterback. We saw George Pickens break the
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slate. It was a two or three games later on was it Christmas or
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one of those slates. They're all mixed and match to me. But man,
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it just seems like a very tough spot this game specifically and the quarterbacks
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here, you know, Mason Rudolph not very appealing. Tyler Huntley, Like,
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if this was a game the Ravens needed to win, like I'd have
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some interest, But they just don't have anything to really play for. Just
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so many unknowns on the raven side. We'll talk about each specific play and
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whatnot. We're going to go through basically every viable option from a fantasy perspective,
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and then Houston, Indya is where we're going to get all the ownership.
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You know, that's the forty eight total. Two teams. Again,
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they both need to win. Basically, it's a winner go home scenario.
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Whoever wins is going to be in the playoffs. Whoever loses is out.
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The Sepsons are favored by It looked like it bumped up a little bit.
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Now it's like two and a half in that game. So that's this is
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the premier game of the slate. It's where all the ownership's going. We're
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going to talk about ways to potentially get a little bit different if you are
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looking to go to that game, but it is one that you're gonna want
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heavy exposure to on the slate. Yeah, a great way to frame it
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all up. You kind of said everything I was thinking, the main piece
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being, you know, even if this slate didn't have the weather in Pittsburgh
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Baltimore, it was already going to be moved to that second game anyway,
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even if it didn't have all the implications in the second game, it still
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would have had the bigger total and all that. All the other stuff just
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leaned in flavor in favor of making this the way that the site's gonna play
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out. So we'll have to find ways to get different when we go through
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it. But I think right off the top being a Ravens fan and talking
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about the one point you mentioned there, I think, for sure, with
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absolutely nothing to play for, like you know, our guy go Collect said,
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and you said, a basketball Pittsburgh, they don't know what else is
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gonna happen, So they just play to win. That's simple. It's a
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rivalry that's like no other. It's been going on forever. It's fine.
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But for the Ravens, just get their team through as healthy as they can
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get through this game, get off the field, get to the break,
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and go from there. So I expect a lot of running from them.
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We'll talk about a guy like Melvin Gordon later on. You can talk about
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that Ravens defense. Even though they'll be down probably some guys due to rest
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and things like that, they still have a good defense over there. The
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Steelers defense. If there's weather, anything can happen on either side. So
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I like both defenses in that game, but then you mentioned it second game.
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Just hard to avoid anyway. Who even if you were thinking, Okay,
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I'm gonna be entraying and go with some stuff in this first game,
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forget the weather, forget everything they say, all this other stuff, you
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still are gonna don't have. The salary is like no issue on this slate.
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There is no no quarterbacks that are expensive outside of CJ. Stroud,
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Jonathan Taylor, and then it drops off a cliff, Nico Collins and Pittman
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drops off a cliff. Dalton Schultz is the best or highest priced tight end.
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I guess I should say at forty two hundred, and then you're talking
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about guys at thirty nine and twenty five hundred, and then it goes down
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from there. So the main thing is, even if you tried to go
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heavy on like Baltimore Pittsburgh spot, you're still gonna have Collins, Pittman,
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Taylor, Singletary, guys like that littered throughout your lineup. So let's talk
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through it from that perspective. Let's start at the quarterback position. I know
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someone like even our discord this morning was talking about Stroud being eighty percent owned
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I still think he gets capped at you know, fifty to fifty five just
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because Gardner Minshew's much cheaper and allows you to fit all of the options in
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the Houston Indie game that you want. And I also think no matter whether
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or not, people will still try and fit in guys like Huntley and Rudolph
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just just take some shots, some sprinkles, as you like to say.
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It's very easy to kind of predict the quarterback position in terms of ownership.
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It's not like the other positions where the crappy guys get like no ownership or
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one or two percent, Like on a two games slate, each quarterback is
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gonna get pretty significant ownership, you know. And that's how it always is.
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No matter what, it doesn't matter how bad the quarterback is, they're
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gonna get some sort of ownership. So like they're not. It's not like
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Mason Rudolf is going to be one percent own, Like that's just not even
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a possibility. Quarterback always, they always will get something, whether it's five,
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ten, twelve. You know, I think Mason Rudolf most likely comes
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in around like ten percent. Huntley is going to be the second lowest own
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he'll be I don't know anywhere from twelve to twenty somewhere in the rings.
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The quarterbacks always get some sort of ownership. Now, quarterbacks in this game,
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they're obviously going to be much lower on than the quarterbacks in the second
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game, and rightfully so. The total in this one's thirty four. There's
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wind, there's rain. It's not an ideal situation. Could one of these
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guys get there? Absolutely, it's the NFL, like anything could can happen.
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I mean, we saw Mason Rudolph hit George Pickens on that deep bomb
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to start the game. Like, I don't think he ended up doing much
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more after that, but actually may have what would be finished. Yeah,
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so he finished with twenty fantasy points in that game, where through like a
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seventy yard bomb to start the game. So there are pass for these guys
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to get there. The one thing I will say though about like the Ravens
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defense today, You know, if you're coaching and scheming, it's much easier
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to punt off on the offensive side, like you can play cole plays just
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to grind the clock out, you know that sort of thing. But the
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defensively they typically still play like the Ravens defense is going to be playing hard.
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It's not like they're gonna say, oh, Najie Harris is running towards
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me, I'm just gonna let him go right past me. Like defensive players
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even in a game you're trying to punt off show up a little bit.
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So it's not like they're just gonna give the Steelers an easy victory here.
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So with all that being said, like you know, I don't want a
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ton of Mason Rudolph. I don't want a ton of Huntley. Again,
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if Huntley was in win sort of game Lamar Jackson got hurt, Huntley's in,
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they need to win this game, I'd have a lot of interest in
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him. Like he's had some moderate success in this league. He's at least
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played in some games, meaningful games. He can run a little bit.
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But I just don't think we're gonna see much from them from an offensive perspective.
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And you know, even if we do like Huntley, his offensive weapons
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are going to be decimated today. There's Noseay Flowers. I can't imagine they're
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going to use likely all that much. It's going to be the backup tight
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end, it's going to be the backup wide receiver. It's going to be
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the backup running back, so his complimentary pieces are going to be pretty shitty
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today. So even if you do like him, there's just a lot of
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strikes against his ass today, like a lot. So the quarterbacks here not
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much interest, you know, will I have some potentially, I haven't built
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my teams yet. We'll see. Stroud Minshew obviously are going to be the
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two that everyone play at the quarterback position, and rightfully so. Again,
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this game is basically two touchdowns higher in terms of the total, with which
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is big. I mean, that's that's a big difference going from a thirty
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four where we have a Pittsburgh projector score like eighteen and the Ravens projector score
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fifteen or sixteen, and then the Texans projector to score twenty five and the
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Colts projected to score twenty three. I mean, it's almost a full touchdown
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higher on each side. So Stroud clearly in play. He has got the
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rushing upside. The obvious downfall to guy like Stroud is, you know,
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missing some key pieces. A lot of his success this season was with a
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guy like Tank Dell, who is now out. It sounds like Robert Woods
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could potentially miss this game as well. At thirty eight hundred. He does
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have Dalton Schultz and then Gardner Minshew, which you know, I think might
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be my preferred option. He has all his pieces, he's cheaper than Stroud,
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going to be lower on than Stroucks. Is just easy to play.
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Go to CJ. Stroud today and we have so many value plays. There's
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not a lot of spends obviously, which when we talk about roster construction,
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feel free to leave a shit ton of money on the table today, Like
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you can leave a lot of money and don't think twice about it. But
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I like Minshew because he does have Pittman, he does have downs, he
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has all these tight ends. He throws to Zach Moss is in the mix
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a little bit, say I think the Colts win this game. Like I
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like the Colts in this game. Probably my favorite offense to attack today,
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and Minshew is going to be I think my favorite quarterback when you factor everything
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in and you do get a little bit of rushing upside with him, he'll
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take off if it's open. So I really like Minshew. But again,
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it's just hard to avoid the quarterbacks in the second game, Like they're just
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so many reasons to be very very heavy on these two guys and very light
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on the other two. Yeah, and I think that was kind of my
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point earlier, like when the chat is talking much Stroud's going to be eighty
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percent. I think the quarterbacks in that game could combine for eighty percent,
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like you could. You could absolutely see twelve eight on the first game,
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and then the rest of the ownership goes to that second game. And rightfully
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so, like you said, we know why. I think one thing that
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was mentioning there is for sure from our guy go collect against it is Huntley
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still in play with his rushing upside and being able and being a rivalry game.
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I agree with who said and I talked about her that I expect the
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Ravens just to run the ball, but when they get up there, I
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mean sometimes they're just good enough to do this. And that's the way that
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this team has been all season. It's not like, you know, the
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second stringers suck completely and they've watched their team be the best in the entire
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AFC. Still go out there with a lot to prove. If they get
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up there and start doing stuff, you can see Huntley be one of the
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better scoring point per dollar, Like if he beats Minshew and comes and comes
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out better than Stroud point per dollars. When I was trying to say,
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then you would have it set up where you could see that the problem is
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like a Chat's mentioning like tread Well, Charlie Kohler, I mean Charlie Coohler's
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twenty five hundred bucks. I don't think he's like this super sneaky option because
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I'm guessing once people are down there, they say that's the guy that would
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be used for Baltimore. But again, he's not gonna have much ownership,
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So I'm fine with it. I like that. But if you set it
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up like Huntley and Cohler or Huntley and Treadwell and just cut it off there,
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maybe get a guy like Warren or Pickens or Deontay Johnson on the other
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side, and then get your Taylor Singletary Collins Pittman type play in there.
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You can just pick up hope to get some more running back touchdowns in that
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second game. That would take away a little bit from Minshew and from Stroud
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and then let your guys like Collins and Pittman still pick up just the raw
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PPR points that they are gonna get just all day long just to make sure
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it happens. So I mean that's the main difference of how I would look
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at it. Huntley would be the guy I have more interest at in in
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that spot in the second game. It's pretty straightforward. I think Minshew is
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the more popular option based on price, but we know that Stroud is going
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to be the more popular option overall. When it comes to actual ownership percentage.
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I think we see Stroud come out ahead. But that's fair, and
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that's why because of the setup of the slate, you don't you have all
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the money in the world to spend. You don't need salary, so that
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would make the most sense to me with a guy like Stroud. I think
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you have to know that in your main lineups and some of the stuff like
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I'll have over on the site. If you go to our site and you
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go under our core reports or you see our projection shakeout, you look at
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the playerpool, the slate plans, all those things. Obviously these guys are
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gonna pop, But if you have Stroud, Collins and Schultz, you're gonna
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have to get different in other places, and I think you do that via
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the punt plays. The other angle you take is if you go stroud is,
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start mixing in your Mechi's, start mixing in your Hutchinson's. Shit,
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My guy Mayo has been trying to make ex Hutchinson work for two weeks.
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Now we're on week three. Maybe it's third times the charm. I know,
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Mechi looks probably better on paper, but if you go X Hutchinson in
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that same spot instead, that could be the guy that breaks this slight up.
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Obviously, on the opposite side the opposite game, in the Baltimore game,
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you've got tread Well and Tylan Wallace there that you could go to.
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So I think there's punt plays that you can use to get different at tight
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end. We'll get to it later. But when you're mixing and matching with
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Stroud, why not throwing a Brevin Jordan as opposed to Adulton Schultz. What
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if he just uses Schultz and Brevin Jordan and it's both of them. So
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I think there's lots of different ways you could go, But at quarterback it's
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pretty straightforward. The overall slate is pretty straightforward, and who that segues us
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right to running back, where I think this is where you got to figure
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it out. Because this is kind of where You've got Jonathan Taylor for good
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reason at home, but Moss is gonna be back. You've got you know,
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Harris and Warren in the Pittsburgh game, You've got Melvin Gordon. People
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are expecting and I do as well in this Baltimore spot going there. I
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don't think there's any reason for them to go too crazy with other guys.
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And then obviously you've got Singletary conversations on the Houston side on all your thoughts
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on Damian Pierce. But yeah, you've got some running backs to talk about
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here. I think this will be where you separate, but most people are
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gonna have Taylor, Singletary and or a Pittsburgh guy, and then there'll be
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some mixtures of the opposite Pittsburgh guy, Melvin Gordon, and maybe some of
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those punt plays. What are you doing here at the running back position?
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Yeah? So, I mean there's not a lot of a ton of options
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really here at running back in terms of guys we can play. You know,
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the hope is people you know Gus Edwards, Justice Hill or potential Gus
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Idbergs is active and people say, I am gonna I'm gonna go ahead and
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play him today, which I just can't imagine they're gonna give Gus Iedbergs raps
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at running back today. Maybe even the same with Justice Hill. I mean
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Justice Hill has you know, been a pretty big part of what they do
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have done recently, and you know, not only from a running perspective,
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but a pass catching perspective. So that leaves like Melvin Gordon, who in
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these scenarios that we talked about where the Ravens just go ahead and run the
21:15
ballaton, I think it just goes to Melvin Gordon, who you know is
21:21
forty eight hundred. You know, it fits into any sort of build that
21:25
you kind of want to play today. If you're going heavy Houston Indian,
21:27
you just need something from another game. Give it to the guy who I
21:30
don't know he could touch the ball twenty times, like who the hell knows?
21:33
Like you just don't know what the raven They're gonna do. It's the
21:36
biggest question mark on the slate if going anywhere for the Ravens. I want
21:41
it to be with the running running game because I think there's a very clear
21:45
game script type situation where they just give them the ball aton. So Melvin
21:48
Gordon I think is a great play forty eight hundred. The Pittsburgh gods will
21:53
stick with that game. It's Jalen moren over Najie Harris. The workload is
21:59
trending in that direct. We've been talking about it basically all season that you
22:03
know, Jalen Warren is better than Najie Harris, and again Naji Harris is
22:08
coming off the big game, but it was all on the ground. Like
22:12
the pass catching stuff is so so valuable on DraftKings, So Jalen Warren over
22:18
Nase for me, but I will have exposure to both. And then you
22:21
have the running backs in the last game which will get a majority of the
22:23
ownership. Devin Singletary at six k flat, which is a very fair priced
22:29
egg, should get all the work. He has pass catching upside as well
22:33
in the Dome, and then Jonathan Taylor seventy four hundred should get all the
22:40
work there as well. So both the running backs in the second secondary game,
22:45
in the second game will get most ownership. But I think you definitely
22:48
have to play those guys in the first game as well. You know,
22:52
in the first game, you know, it's definitely the defenses and running backs
22:55
that I'll be looking at opposed to the pass catchers. Talk about the pass
22:59
catcher in a minute, but I think that's just the way to go.
23:03
But it's really only those five. I mean, if you have some sort
23:06
of lean on Zack Moss getting a bunch of work, Like the problem is
23:11
like the running back position just doesn't offer enough of a discount for the backup
23:15
guys. I mean, he's still like five K for Zach Moss, Like
23:19
it's still a price he's priced right with the Pittsburgh running backs who you know
23:23
are gonna get work, so makes it difficult to take chances at running back.
23:27
So it's kind of like just those five guys and again hopefully like Gus
23:30
Edwards or Justice Hill are active and then pick up like a little bit of
23:36
ownership because I just can't imagine them getting much work in this game today.
23:40
Yeah, I'll give Sean some time here. He's got some good ones.
23:41
Cereo Taylor Jonathan absolutely kills Houston over five games. This, I mean,
23:45
he's obviously a good play. We know that on this slate. We'll see
23:48
how it goes. This is true, like Gordon, a guy like Gordon
23:51
is so dusty, but we're not really worried about dust on two games slates.
23:53
We do this every week. Pickens was so dusty and then broke the
23:56
slate. It's a price play. It's in a game where there's weather.
23:59
It's a possibility based on sitting guys. It could just be enough. You
24:03
never know. And then this is probably his best point he brought up,
24:04
besides the two other obvious ones, is this is if you think the Steelers
24:08
win, I got no problem like Najie Harris and the Pittsburgh defense. I
24:11
also think you could do it the other way, though, I don't mind.
24:15
In a two games slate, negative correlation a great way to go about
24:18
it. If you want to just put a guy like Jalen Warren up against
24:21
the Ravens defense and just hope the Ravens d are the one that's needed.
24:23
They still show up at home in the final game of the season, proving
24:27
stuff to the rest of their teammates, messing you know, messing up things
24:30
for Pittsburgh everything they want to do there. You could still see it,
24:33
and then you could set it up for a spot where Warren just gets checked
24:37
down city and this don't matter again two games slate, all this stuff you
24:40
got thrown out the windows. I mean not definitely not endorsing Melvin Gordon as
24:45
a good NFL running back. That is simply just not. Yeah. Yeah,
24:48
it's a product of the current situation with the Ravens locked into the one
24:52
seed, nothing to play for today. They don't give a shit if Melvin
24:56
Gordon rushes the ball twenty five times, it gets hurt and isn't available for
24:59
the playoffs. Like, they don't care about that. That's like not even
25:00
in their head. And he's not good, don't get me wrong, but
25:03
he doesn't need to be a good running back on a two game slate where
25:06
he could potentially get twenty five touches. Yeah, and that's the thing I
25:10
think two people focus on that, Oh he sucks, Oh he's old,
25:12
Oh he's this slate dynamics two games slate. I agree with all that he
25:15
does. Suck, he is old, Like I agree with every one of
25:18
those statements. They are true. It's a true statement. But that doesn't
25:22
mean that we can't play him today, right, That's all it comes down
25:25
to. And again, like we said, if we expect the Ravens run
25:26
it. If that's all the case, how does that work then? Okay,
25:30
let's say they run him twelve to fifteen times, he averages what two
25:33
yards of carry? Like he's horrible, So there's some yardage, but it
25:36
only takes one slip, one fall, one end zone touchdown, whatever it
25:40
might be to really tack onto that forty eight hundred dollars price tag, which
25:44
can make a lot work. And if some of those other guys don't come
25:47
through and that's the one that's required, that's when it works out. So
25:49
again it's just talking through it as a two game slate. Not my favorite
25:52
play, but just to say I understand why people are going there, and
25:56
I think for the Ravens it makes sense to literally just kill the clock,
25:59
get out of the game as healthy as possible, and if they lose someone
26:02
like him, guess what. Guess what, another dust ball is ready to
26:06
go for the playoffs because they just signed Dalvin Cook so they could plug him
26:08
in instead of your guy Gordon. So there's lots of opportunity when you think
26:12
about that and go from there. So anything else at running back that you
26:17
want to bring up, I guess Singletary Pierce maybe spend just a minute on
26:19
that and then we can move it over to wide receiver. I think singletary
26:22
clear in a way. But Pierce is one hundred dollars less than Melvin Gordon.
26:26
Before I'd probably go looking for guys behind Melvin Gordon or other spots.
26:32
Just hard again because of the pricing on a guy like Pierce. I mean,
26:34
he's priced right. It's not like you're getting like a massive discount,
26:37
which I think going into that, I know why DraftKings does it because I
26:41
fear like the injury, the midweek injury, and they don't want the cheap
26:47
running backs to be super super popular. But at forty seven hundred, it's
26:52
not like it's a freeb price tag like you got it. He's got to
26:56
show up and do something that at forty seven hundred, And it's difficult when
27:00
you can kind of like project them to get five, six, maybe seven
27:03
touches, Like I don't know, it's a it's just a product of the
27:07
pricing. It's just hard to do it, to be honest, Any rent
27:11
for these means, I said, any rent for these, like, you
27:15
know, what do you do with all these what's inside? He needs seventy
27:18
five yards? Like you know, everyone's incentive means that they're just gonna get
27:22
there, right, We've got to bet all the overs and pro we gotta
27:25
make it. I mean, I mean honestly on the teams that have like
27:27
nothing to play for, Like I think that stuff's more valuable, you know,
27:32
on a team that like their team's done, they're not making the playoffs,
27:34
and Joe Schmoe needs one hundred and twenty yards to get his bonus.
27:38
Yeah, maybe they try to do it, but this is like the premiere
27:41
game of the weekend. Like these teams one hundred win a winner, go
27:45
home game. Essentially they're not worried about, uh, you know, Singletary
27:48
getting his seventy five yards or whatever it may be. Yeah. Well also
27:52
too like this, this is they do have everything to play for here,
27:56
and so if he gets that, people are gonna lean on the incentive.
27:59
Oh I told you Ingleitaria was the best. It's because of his seventy five
28:02
yard incentive. No, they had to win the damn game or they're done
28:04
for the season, and he's the best chance to ride him Stroud Collins.
28:08
They're gonna just play their best guys. It has nothing to do with the
28:11
incentive. Again, just the worst takes of all time, probably when it
28:15
comes to NFL. I've been playing this game a very long time. NFL
28:18
DFS, I think those are probably the worst things ever. But either way,
28:21
honestly, I mean on the teams that have nothing to play for it,
28:22
I mean, it's not the worst thing to look at, but a
28:25
lot of times you can see what they're gonna do. I mean, you
28:27
look at the rams. Nikiyah has these what he needs four catches for thirty
28:30
some yards or something to break the rookie record. Sean McVay came out and
28:34
basically said for getting him that and his asses out of the game, like
28:37
he already said it, that's what Yeah, yeah, yeah, I brought
28:40
that up because in the discord the other day we had a big back and
28:41
forth on I'm not using it for DFS. I think you can go bet
28:45
those props if you want on something like that where literally the coach comes out
28:48
and says, we want to get him at stuff, we want to get
28:51
that record, then we want to get him out of the game. But
28:52
it's not a good deal of it. Oh Hopkins needs forty nine yards,
28:56
Yeah, I'll probably get it and then he's done. Like these are not
28:59
good DFS plays. These are and this is not I'm not even coming to
29:02
M. This is just in general because M was the first one to bring
29:03
it up. But don't go with any of that. We weren't saying that
29:07
Baltimore wouldn't play well. We're saying, what's their strategy going to be for
29:11
this game? And I think that's for sure. The setup here is again,
29:12
why wouldn't they just run it and try and win the game that way?
29:15
But I think as far as running back goes, I don't have much
29:18
more else to add, And I'm just just onto that comics that it is
29:22
somewhat important. It's like there's no guarantee that we're correct on this analysis.
29:26
Maybe Baltimore says, you know what, we want to just knock Pittsburgh.
29:30
We want to knock the Steelers out of the freaking playoffs today. Let's just
29:33
kick their ass and knock them out and have some momentum with our backups going
29:37
to the playoffs. There's a path where that does happen. Do I think
29:41
it's likely? No? Does the field for df US think it's likely?
29:45
No? But if you think it's a possibility, build your teams like that,
29:48
because there is there is a chance. I think even if they want
29:52
to do that would be difficult because look at the guys that are rolling out
29:55
today. So that's the issue I have. We didn't talk about this earlier,
29:59
but one more take, just as you know crazy Ravens fan that follows
30:02
everything that goes on behind the scenes. Do you remember against San Francisco,
30:06
Lamar Jackson spoke about the spread. He said, it was it was it
30:11
was a disgrace. He said, that's a what do you call it exactly?
30:14
He said, it's disrespectful. He said, the way you put us
30:17
up as that type of underdog with what we've done this season, it ain't
30:19
no joke. These are an underdog team. I know it's the backups.
30:22
That's what it has to be done. But if you think they're not looking
30:26
at it, that that's the case, right, That's what they're looking at.
30:29
So if you think that bothers them too, that may be the case
30:32
as well. To say, we don't care if it's a full strength Steelers.
30:33
We want to prove that on top again that we're still gonna go out
30:37
and get the job done again. Whatever happens happens. But just little things
30:40
like that. But you know, I don't know much else at the running
30:42
back position. Lots we could talk about at the wide receiver. We already
30:45
talked a little bit about certain spots here. I think it starts up top.
30:48
Obviously, Collins and Pittman are extremely easy to get into lineups. Both
30:52
very affordable for the slate and how it sets up, and both are just
30:56
usually PPR monsters with even better siguate Collins with no dal or Brown now since
31:03
the injury stuff, and you know, Pittman just the guy that Minshew continues
31:06
to go to. So where are we at with this wide receiver position?
31:08
How are you handling it? Then? Who are some of the guys down
31:11
low that you might be able to fit into get different? Yeah, So
31:14
I'll continue to start with the Baltimore situation because it's the you know, biggest
31:18
question mark I guess on the slate and you might get some clearity with within
31:23
actives. You know, it's a very important situation to monitor the ravens inactives,
31:27
which we'll get at about three pm Eastern, because you've got to see
31:33
who's in who's out, And it could be another situation like guy like they've
31:36
already ruled out Zay Flowers and Odell next to in line Bateman Aguilar. But
31:41
these guys are guys that are getting reps on a normal basis, So are
31:45
they going to play them? How much are they going to play or do
31:48
they just say, you know what, just rolling two wide receiver set.
31:49
We'll roll out la Quan Treadwell, Tylan Wallace take our chances that way.
31:56
It's just to me, it's shaping up to be a game where they're just
31:57
going to play the full on backups. It's gonna be like Treadwall Wallace,
32:02
and then at tight end it'll be Charlie Kolar, which we'll talk about when
32:07
we get to the tight end position. Melvin Gordon's gonna get the carries and
32:10
they're just gonna roll it out that way, would be my guest. We'll
32:14
see. So if we get to inactives and Bateman and Aguilar are indeed active,
32:20
I'll be looking just to avoid those guys. So I don't want to
32:22
play any Ravens guys that typically get reps on the field today. So I'm
32:25
hoping those guys are in and the field kind of starts to navigate to them
32:30
a little bit, and then we can just pivot to Treadwall and Tylan Wallace,
32:34
who I think end up getting the reps at wide receiver today. So
32:37
it's definitely a situation to monitor. Like I said, three Eastern, let's
32:40
see who's in who's out type of thing on the Steelers if you want to
32:44
go there, if you're gonna be in on the Steelers passing, and again
32:46
you don't necessarily need to be in on them, but you're probably gonna have
32:50
to play a little bit of these guys. It's just Pickens and Deontay Johnson.
32:53
Pickens finally had the big game. Like I said around Christmas time,
32:58
Deontay Johnson five point one. I'm fine playing these guys. I don't want
33:01
to be like massively overweight on or not. I don't want to have massive
33:06
ownership on these dudes. I think there's a lot of risk, but just
33:09
in terms of filling out rosters, especially if you're doing one hundred and fifty,
33:14
probably got to play him a little bit. But I don't want guys
33:15
like Alan Robinson or Calvin Austin or anything like that. Then we go to
33:20
the big Boy game, and I guess there are some question marks on the
33:23
Houston side. On the Colt side. I think Pittman's a phenomenal play.
33:27
Love Pittman at home in the dome. Good connection with Minshew seventy five hundred.
33:31
You know him and Nico Collins right around the same price tag one hundred
33:35
dollars off. Both will have big, big time ownership. Good with both
33:38
of them. But man, something just strikes me that Pittman has a really
33:42
big game today. So I want Pittman. They use him in just a
33:45
variety of different ways. I think he's a little more dynamic than Nico Collins
33:49
in what he does and how they kind of line him up. I want
33:52
to be all over Pittman today. Alec Pierce forty three hundred had a big
33:57
play I believe it was last week. It was like a touchdown. Yeah,
34:00
only play a fifty yard touchdown. You know. If he does that
34:04
today is a chance to be on the optimal And then Josh downs fifty two
34:07
I think is a great play as well. So kind of want to be
34:10
all over these Colts pass catchers and then Houston. Obviously, Nico Collins is
34:15
going to be a very highly owned play. Rightfully, so two games slate,
34:19
But after that, some question marks and a chance to potentially get that
34:22
question marks, but a chance to get a little bit different on this slate
34:25
with the team that's projected to score the most points. Robert Woods is questionable.
34:30
Did not practice all week. That is one piece of news to certainly
34:35
monitor. Thirty eight hundred. Yeah, so he didn't practice at all.
34:40
This game is at eight to fifteen. Probably don't have the news prior to
34:45
Locke, So you know, this is a situation where if he plays,
34:47
I want to be on him. If he doesn't play, I want to
34:51
be on And you can play these guys regardless, but I want to bump
34:53
the ownership a little bit on Mechi and Xavier Hutchinson three K both of them.
35:00
It's like, man, do you want to punt with Baltimore wide receivers
35:04
who could potentially you know not they might not get any targets, they might
35:07
just run the ball the whole time. Or do you want to punt with
35:10
two guys from an offense with the best quarterback on this slate, the highest
35:15
projected team total at lower ownerships. I think this is a good opportunity to
35:19
get a little bit different on the slate. John Metchi and Xavier Hutchinson and
35:23
then even so like Robert Woods with that Q tag going into this later game,
35:28
should get lower ownership than he typically would have. So I think this
35:31
is the spot where we can potentially look to get a little bit different.
35:34
These cheap Texans wide receivers, they don't have much beyond these guys, they're
35:37
going to be on the field then, especially if Woods is out, they're
35:40
gonna be on the field a tons. So I think this is a very
35:43
key situation on the slate what you do with these punt Texans wide receivers Mechi
35:49
and Hutchinson. Yeah, I like a lot of what you said there,
35:52
So I don't have to go too far into it because you broke down everything
35:54
and I'm just going to talk on other stuff real quick that came to my
35:57
mind, like the setup of the slate. We talk through some of it
36:00
already, like the you know, the setup of running backs versus the defense,
36:02
but just overall, the main thing that I took away from that,
36:05
and with those wide receivers prices and with how Taylor and Singletary are priced,
36:08
how you can just basically fit them all. I said, you want to
36:12
play them all together. I think you can do that and then just pick
36:14
your punts. Like that's the way I would call it. Pick your punts,
36:16
find your punt plays, get to them. Get different that way.
36:20
Leaving salary, which everyone always talks about, but I think it's like leaving
36:22
salary plus game script is how it would classify it here, where if you've
36:27
got you know, a Stroud lineup and you're gonna play it with Nico Collins
36:31
and Pittman and then one of those three K guys, it's okay to go
36:36
like Hutchinson or Metchi with a Brevin Jordan, which we'll get you in a
36:39
second instead of Dalton Schultz and then saying you think it's gonna be the running
36:44
back from the Pittsburgh game and something else, and then leave three thousand on
36:47
the table or whatever it is, Like that's how I think you have to
36:50
set it up. Not just leave money to leave money and get what the
36:52
optimizer gives you, but look at how those lineups actually set up, or
36:55
does it make sense for this slate for a two game slate all that,
37:00
So I think, really that's gonna be the key focus that I'm gonna look
37:02
at. And then some of the stuff you'd said there too, like Robert
37:06
Woods. Even if he somehow plays, not practicing all week, it would
37:08
be tough for me. But I think in a lot of those lineups you'd
37:10
have the money left over. Maybe you get there. I like some of
37:14
these home run plays a little bit more, and it takes me to some
37:16
of the stuff from earlier. Another one another, and Sean's back again,
37:22
and you have some Agalore, have a bunch of Agalore. All these ones.
37:25
He's got. The main incentive that he's likely to get if he gets
37:29
one is he needs fifty eight yards for quarter million dollars. First of all,
37:32
he's broke fifty eight yards twice on the entire season, and it was
37:36
an uphill battle to get sixty three and sixty four. Second of all,
37:39
it's the same exact thing we already talked about. So he gets you three
37:43
catches for sixty yards, he gets his quarter million. I bet you get
37:45
zero million, zero, five hundred k zero anything for yourself, because what's
37:50
that gonna do for you? If you've got Pittman and Collins and Pickens and
37:53
Deontay Johnson and some of these other punts that get there and just destroy him,
37:58
what does that mean you played him? Because he needed fifty eight yards
38:00
for h The other thing is like, if he gets the fifty eight yards,
38:04
there's no guarantee that he's the guy. You need a wide receiver today
38:07
on the slave, So find a got a call this guy. We get
38:09
it, man, we are in every day, We know it. We
38:12
understand the concept. Man, you're playing it from a different perspective than other
38:15
people are thinking about it. That's the difference. If he gets there,
38:17
it's not because the incentive, That's what I'm trying to say. But even
38:21
if you're playing him because of the incentive, and you think that's why he
38:24
gets there, it's not even guaranteed that he gets his incentive and gets you
38:29
your money. You're playing for yourself for DFS, not for Nelson Aglore's twohundred
38:32
and fifty k that he's trying to rack up in his pocketbook. So that's
38:36
why I'm bringing it up and get so passionate about it, is you're not
38:37
You're not playing the game you're supposed to be playing. You're playing somebody else's
38:42
game where he wins a quarter million. If he gets fifty eight yards,
38:45
if he gets you fifty eight yards, you don't get shit. You get
38:47
you know, probably three catches for fifty eight. Your eight little points on
38:51
your draftings lide? Does that help you? I don't know, So think
38:53
about it from that perspective. Go ahead, who uh, yeah, I
38:58
agree with what you said there. I lost my point. I think it
39:00
was the same thing you were saying, like, or go find the because
39:05
is received. I don't know if they have the receiving props on these guys,
39:07
but his receiving prop will probably be thirty you know, thirty four,
39:10
thirty five, go bet the over, you know, and then you automatically
39:15
win. If he goes out and gets you three for fifty eight, you're
39:16
not going to automatically win in DFS. Yeah, where's this at? Now?
39:21
Now? I got to look this up just because I want to see
39:22
it. So if you go to the receiving props today, they don't have
39:27
a lot of the books, don't have the ravens because you know obviously,
39:30
yeah, they don't know fully yet. I wish we could see it.
39:32
We'll see if it comes up. But even still, that's the funniest part
39:36
of it all is Aglar's prop would be like thirty five or something today thirty
39:39
five and a half but guess what, the books also know that no other
39:44
wide receiver is playing, So why is it only that it's the same exact
39:46
reason you got to play the other game. I'm taking home run shots.
39:51
I want the Tyland Wallace. If he's q tag too, we'll see.
39:52
But if he plays, I want the Treadwell sixty yard touchdown. That really
39:57
racks up and means something. I want Hutchinson and to finally get there when
40:00
no one's even thinking of him. They're playing mechi. I want all those
40:04
plays instead as my punt plays and mix and matches. That's the thing that
40:07
I'm talking about. And if he gets there and Agilor gets there, Betty
40:10
the yard prop or the Betty anytime touchdown, whatever you want to try and
40:15
do to think that he's gonna get there and be the value you need.
40:17
It's not even against Agalore as much as is the people focused on these incentives.
40:22
That's what drives me crazy. Is that's not why they would get there.
40:24
If that's the case, so keep it moving. We can go to
40:28
tight end. There's a couple of options here. I think like the cheaper
40:30
options. Revin Jordan, who we already talked about, obviously Dalton Schultz just
40:36
a fantastic spot today on an extremely weak tight end position, maybe the weakest
40:39
we've seen on these two games slates. But like prior Muth grantson, sure,
40:44
we'll get into those. The other one down here I was gonna bring
40:45
up was earlier already brought up, was Charlie Kohler. We talked about that,
40:50
like, why would they? I know there's like a slight chance that
40:52
Andrews comes back for the playoffs or whatever, but likely forty eight hundred.
40:57
I don't know, what are you doing here at this tight end position?
40:58
Who I gotta stay out of the chat man, It's it's gonna never stop.
41:05
It's all good. Yeah, So Dalton Schultz is the clear guy at
41:12
the tight end position. Forty two hundred, very cheap. The Texans are
41:15
obviously without their a lot of their key wide receivers. No Noah Brown,
41:20
no, no Tank Dell. Obviously Dalton Schultz forty two hundred will be very
41:24
popular at the position. You know, there's not many good solid tight end
41:30
plays on the slate starts with Schultz will clearly be the highest stone. Who
41:34
are some other guys? You know? You kind of mentioned Brevan Jordan.
41:37
He got the touchdown. I believe last week twenty five hundred. This could
41:39
be a position where I don't know, seven fantasy points wins the position today
41:45
like I would, I would not be shocked at all if whoever gets seven
41:47
or eight at tight end is the guy that you need. So that's just
41:52
basically one touchdown. So I think a lot of guys can be in the
41:54
conversation at tight end today. Similar situation with the Ravens. If likely is
42:00
active, I think that's good because people might play. But it's got to
42:06
be this Coler guy at twenty five hundred. All signs point to them just
42:07
going full on backups today. Cohler twenty five hundred, I think is a
42:14
fine option. Now, no, lock, It's not like it's a guarantee.
42:17
I mean again, there is a scenario where they just run the damn
42:20
ball all game. But twenty five hundred in play got Friarmouth, who man,
42:25
it seems like he hasn't done anything lately. I just wanting to pull
42:28
this up. Would he get four for forty four? Just hasn't had anything
42:32
going? But it's a two game slate. You got to consider him a
42:37
little bit. And then the Colt stuff is always difficult because they just have
42:40
so many different guys. But on my on my Minshew quarterback teams, I'm
42:47
fine getting some exposure to these Colts tight ends on a two game slate.
42:51
Again, if you are under the assumption that I am where like seven or
42:55
eight Fantasy points could win the tight end position, you just have to consider
43:00
or a variety of guys because that's literally just one touchdown. So that's kind
43:04
of kind of where I'm at. Not a great position. Schultz will get
43:06
a majority of the ownership, I mean probably over fifty percent rightfully, so,
43:10
but there's other guys you can can definitely play at this position. Yeah,
43:15
I think the guys I mentioned weally that's how I set it up.
43:17
But I think, like the Kohler thing, he could just be the guy.
43:20
Like I know, even other games we have some history on Huntley when
43:22
he's come in it is just you know, tight end city. When it
43:24
was with Mark Andrews, it was that, when it was with Likely,
43:29
it was that Cohler could be the guy this week. Like you said,
43:30
he's twenty five hundred. I know people will like both him and Brevin Jordan
43:35
at that price tag because this main setup is people will either try and leverage
43:38
off of Dalton Schultz in the exact same position for a little less money.
43:42
I think if you landed on a Schultz line up that you loved and wanted,
43:45
just to take Schultz out and put in Jordan and hope it's not a
43:49
Schultz game and that Jordan gets that nine points again, at least it's at
43:52
a one Z position, and it would literally be crushing the guy that most
43:55
people have in there. Because Schultz will be extremely popular. I'm not sure
43:59
I didn't get full ownership on him just yet. I'll have a quick look
44:01
here just to see, but probably forty to fifty percent would you say hoop
44:06
for Schultz in there, especially when you consider two tight end lineups. Maybe
44:09
I don't know, it won't be as many of those today. He's gonna
44:12
be over fifty. I mean, it's just he's the clear play, the
44:15
guy that everyone's going to, and he's projected way better than everyone no matter
44:17
like where you look. I mean, he's gonna be if you just run
44:21
an optimizer. Because I did what we've kind of done on the Showdown shows,
44:24
where I just run it and don't change anything. You're getting like over
44:28
seventy percent Schultz without making any manual adjustments. My boy parabas there with me.
44:35
He's always got my back. But I'm saying people are taking it to
44:37
too serious with Agalore as much as just in general. I hope Agalore gets
44:42
an end around ten yard touchdown today, just to really close the It's not
44:47
about the play and how he gets there. It's that he doesn't do that
44:51
shit like, it's not how it works. So I hope he gets there
44:53
in a random way for you, and you see, it's not about the
44:55
incentive. But either way, I digress. We move on the the one
45:00
point I want to bring up Jay really like this one. These are the
45:02
guys that are gonna be sneaky as well too, Like Granson is the opposite
45:07
side of Schaltz. He could be used there. I think I saw too.
45:10
Who is the other guy they've been using lately as this may Mallory.
45:15
Yeah, it's hard to get to and they're not gonna project. You're gonna
45:19
have to really put them into your stuff. But I mean he's coming off
45:22
multiple weeks nine point six, eight point seven, two point nine. I
45:24
mean it's again, it's not the same anything could happen, Moley Cox.
45:29
It's really hard to get it right and that's why it sucks. But just
45:31
to say it, like that's obviously a spot where you're in the game that
45:35
you want to be in. You're on the opposite side. See he messed
45:37
up, though, Tambo. You forgot one thing though, When you talk
45:39
about these incentives, it's not only that the players know the incentives like that
45:45
they are personal incentives. The quarterbacks also know Man, so they're gonna make
45:49
sure to get him the ball. Dude, you messed up. I saw
45:52
other stuff. The moral right that the coaches have to get them the ball
45:57
to make sure that they get that money. Like, yeah, he will
46:00
know. He don't know if you know this, but all it takes is
46:04
one big target and like they can smash Man the quarterbacks thrown it to him.
46:08
It's fine. I needed to get this out of my system. We've
46:10
been talking about it all week. It's fun, you guys know. I'm
46:13
passionate about this stuff. It's all fun and games. I'm just saying,
46:15
like you're talking about it doesn't matter like the guy you know now, it's
46:21
definitely aguilar. Six for one and a touchdown. Oh I'm gonna find these
46:24
things. And Bethy's now when on me on the rant that I can still
46:29
say, at least I got the the anytime touchdown or something. Yeah,
46:30
you got the ultimate hammer. You got the receipts to come back and say
46:34
see you. You know I was on it too. I was right there
46:36
with you. Yeah. Now clip this part Tambo's play of the day.
46:40
First touchdown for Agalore twenty two to one, anytime touchdown Agalore six to one.
46:46
Bet them both, you can't miss as long as he gets in the
46:49
box, we at least make profit boom like that. That's the way you
46:52
do it, right. So no, it was much more an incentive rant.
46:57
We're gonna go on and move on to this the final stuf here,
47:00
Hoop, I got nothing else at tight end. We can talk through defense
47:02
quick. If you guys have any questions, throw them in the chat.
47:06
I just want to say, Antoine, we talk about Koler three times on
47:08
this show already, my friend so and likely and all that, so rewind
47:13
back. But go ahead, Hoop, talk to us about defenses. It's
47:16
defense as I get it, high variants, all that stuff. Is there
47:20
any thoughts like we did mention earlier. The one good thing Sean came to
47:22
today with us was the Najee Harris mixed with Pittsburgh d If they are up
47:28
and smashing, why not just continue to ride nause That's how he typically has
47:30
the big games. You can go Warren against Baltimore. I talked about that.
47:35
But one thing I would kick to your thoughts on is just Houston indid
47:38
looks to be going extremely overlooked because people associate weather with shutouts, with low
47:43
scores, with running with all that stuff. But realistically, when you think
47:46
out loud, if teams are just going to run the ball all day in
47:49
that game, where do the opportunities come in. We've seen plenty of games.
47:52
I think back to the Cleveland Browns start of this season. They were
47:55
thirty one hundred bucks. The game, I think there was thirty one thirty
47:59
on the scoreboard, thirty eight thirty one, and the Cleveland defense broke the
48:01
slate because it was still them putting up the point. So what's your thoughts
48:05
on that the defense is in that second game as well? Yeah, I
48:07
mean I'm gonna, I don't know, like DraftKings kind of. So twenty
48:13
nine hundred three k thirty one hundred thirty three hundreds. They kind of just
48:16
copped out and said, hey, just you know, pick your defense and
48:20
move on, like it's a non important position. Steelers will get all the
48:23
ownership. There's a path where they don't have many opportunities. So we talked
48:28
about it, like there's a clear path where the Ravens just run the ball.
48:30
And if you're playing a defense, you want the other team passing.
48:34
I just I don't think the Ravens are passing much that I will. Don't
48:37
get me wrong. I will have the Steelers, you know what conditions some
48:39
win like, I'll have them, but it's not a slam dunk play kind
48:44
of like the Ravens on the other side at thirty three hundred the most expensive
48:47
and like I said earlier, like on offense, it's easy to pump things
48:52
off. The coaches can just call run and run, run, run,
48:53
run, run. On defense, I think the guys still show up thirty
48:58
three hundred, Like in these conditions, you know, I'm gonna make sure
49:00
to get some exploder to the Ravens and then yeah, you don't want to
49:04
right off Texans Colts. I mean you have two quarterbacks willing to take chances
49:07
a higher total, there's gonna be more opportunity. I'm just gonna kind of
49:12
spread it out. The field is definitely going heavy Steelers. I kind of
49:15
just want, you know, a little bit of everything here. It just
49:17
seems very It seems like a toss up position today, and really I like
49:22
the defense against the quarterbacks and a couple spots, definitely the Texans going up
49:28
against Gardner Minshew, even though I like Gardner and he's one of my favorite
49:30
quarterbacks. Today I'm saying it's just because of that game environment, but it
49:32
can happen still where you get both Gardner Minshew could run two in throw a
49:37
touchdown to Pittman and then also throw two picks like that. That is definitely
49:40
possible in a game like this back and forth, and I think Whoop the
49:44
field is extremely sharp these days. The reason they're on the Steelers is because
49:47
they know Huntley will throw Aglare the ball, and that sounds like fixed City
49:52
Fitsburgh defense at thirty one hundred just has to be the play. When they're
49:57
just incentive feeding Agalore all game, there's to be mistakes there. So I
50:00
think here's here's what's gonna happen. All right, I see it now,
50:05
all right, Haglar sixty yard bomb. All right, they're at their own
50:08
twenty five sixty yard bomb. He gets down to where would take him with
50:12
the twenty tackled fumble, so he gets the over, He gets over the
50:16
fifty eight Steelers take the ball down, defensive touchdown. That's it's right,
50:21
get double down on both the site to come out where we can bet exactas
50:27
for what we think is gonna happen. I want to bet it exactly.
50:30
It's like fifty nine yards, the fumble, the Pittsburgh Steeler defense. You
50:34
get a single game parlay on all of that. But I don't have much
50:37
else to add. I definitely think, like I said, I talked about
50:38
it a bunch, but the defense against is gonna be a thing for me
50:42
for sure. Like I said, Baltimore d against the guy like Warren makes
50:44
perfect sense to me. You go with Houston against Gardner Minshew, you go
50:47
with Indy versus Stroud, if you have Indie winning that game, I definitely
50:51
don't hate that. You go with the Steelers against Huntley, who we talked
50:54
about, and then Baltimore just at home. It's we are mixing the matching
50:58
and playing the ball. So it is what it is. But it's like
50:59
the twenty nine hundred to thirty three hundred and you can play them against whoever
51:04
you want, just a two games slate. So I don't really think that's
51:07
a big deal. And then I mentioned this point earlier and go Collect brings
51:08
it up again. I think it's both sides, Like if both sides get
51:12
away with just running the ball in this weather and down the stretch. That's
51:15
what's interesting about those being the two most popular defenses is there's not really many
51:20
opportunities. Everyone loves me included Collins Pittman. Get serious for a minute here,
51:25
all the actual guys in that game that you can throw to the guys
51:28
like Hutchinson and Metchi, and then on the other side, the downs and
51:30
Pierce plays and check downs to Taylor and Singletary. These are where you get
51:37
opportunities for a defense. So I think that's definitely a takeaway for me.
51:39
Just good talking through it and finding these things out. It's thinking through the
51:43
slate more. The other ones make sense for weather and scoring, but at
51:46
the same time it makes sense we want those opportunities. So even in a
51:50
higher scoring game. The defenses could be a big part of that. I
51:52
think at the you know, just the price difference of one hundred bucks from
51:55
the Steelers down to the Texans can definitely work regardless of anything else that's in
52:00
your lineup. I really don't even care. You could have five guys from
52:02
Indy and the Houston d could still be the one that's needed on this slate.
52:06
Like, it really does not matter to me in that spot today.
52:08
So not something that I'll be setting up any final thoughts for this slate,
52:13
hoop. We gotta think all of it out of the way here. But
52:15
we'll be doing these two game shows the next two weeks as well, for
52:17
these wild card weekend and division weekend as well. Yeah, next week's game
52:22
should be quite a bit more exciting, and you know, I think we
52:25
kind of talk through this, you know, hit on some good points,
52:30
some roster construction stuff, but man, nothing beats playoff NFL football, and
52:35
that's what we get for I don't know, but what in the next like
52:37
four weeks next month, So it's exciting time. We're gonna get through Week
52:40
eight. Team, We're gonna get some ship a nation loggas to the top.
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Of the leader board and looking forward to you know this slate. I
52:46
mean we kind of talked through it. I think there's some some different ways
52:50
to go about it. Our content is basically complete, everything's up, ready
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to go for the most part. A couple changes along the way, then
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we'll be in. We've got PGA. What we've got an hour left before
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PGA. We have showdown content for that. So a lot of exciting stuff
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going on over a ship in nation. Yeah, you just mentioned all this
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there's some stuff up for the tiers slate already for tomorrow. We'll flip all
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as of this morning, going to have a couple more updates come to that.
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We're just fine tuning some stuff there, waiting to get a little bit
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Then, I mean the reil value is this season package because a lot
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This is a freaking steal the season stuff. I mean five six hundred dollars
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