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- 0:59Speaker 3: Yeah teen, my life change, buying real estate, doing all
- 1:03Speaker 3: these great things. I understood the value of having real
- 1:06Speaker 3: estate and wanting to hand it over to my legacy
- 1:09Speaker 3: to create a legacy with that. But once I actually
- 1:12Speaker 3: went to create a living trust and I saw what
- 1:15Speaker 3: it can do, that's when I knew I had a
- 1:18Speaker 3: bigger narrative I needed to share with the people. So
- 1:21Speaker 3: my thing was I looked at who created a living
- 1:24Speaker 3: trust to hand it down through their legacy, and I said,
- 1:27Speaker 3: it's Rockefeller. So I went on to read the Rockefeller
- 1:30Speaker 3: Trust from nineteen thirty four, and also there's a.
- 1:33Speaker 2: Book called what would Rockefeller Do?
- 1:35Speaker 3: So I stayed up reading all these things about how
- 1:37Speaker 3: he would take this, put it in an account and
- 1:39Speaker 3: only give a portion to the legacy, and then have
- 1:42Speaker 3: his children create a trust and now that money compound interest.
- 1:45Speaker 3: He wouldn't give it to him until they turn a
- 1:47Speaker 3: certain age. And I'm like, I could do that, We
- 1:50Speaker 3: can do that. The information was right there. So I
- 1:53Speaker 3: sat down with my trust attorney. I said, I want
- 1:55Speaker 3: to do that, Like, well, you want to do it,
- 1:56Speaker 3: but I want to do that. It can be done structured.
- 2:00Speaker 3: It worked it out where if not if but unfortunately
- 2:04Speaker 3: we all pass away. When I pass away, a percentage
- 2:07Speaker 3: of my properties would be sold, not the ones that
- 2:10Speaker 3: I hold long term, like I have properties I do
- 2:13Speaker 3: keep my short term properties those would be sold. That
- 2:17Speaker 3: money would now go into a brokerage account. That brokerage
- 2:20Speaker 3: account would be in the name of the trust. That
- 2:23Speaker 3: money for that specific account would be for my grandchildren
- 2:27Speaker 3: starting off, not my immediate family. My immediate family would
- 2:30Speaker 3: get my life insurance policies, which are millions of dollars policies,
- 2:35Speaker 3: and the main properties that I hold, so they are
- 2:36Speaker 3: taken care of. But we need to start thinking about
- 2:40Speaker 3: the grandkids, the great grand kids, those generations.
- 2:43Speaker 2: How do you start their growth. You start their.
- 2:45Speaker 3: Growth by putting that money in a brokerage account, and
- 2:47Speaker 3: they don't get that money until they turn twenty one
- 2:50Speaker 3: years old. So let's use the example of a million dollars.
- 2:53Speaker 3: I put a million dollars in a brokerage account for
- 2:55Speaker 3: my grandkids. They don't get that till they turn twenty
- 2:57Speaker 3: one gaining six percent interest sense of interest, they say,
- 3:01Speaker 3: that's twenty one. So that money turns into about three
- 3:03Speaker 3: point eight million dollars for my grandkids.
- 3:06Speaker 2: My grandkids they wouldn't get it all. They we could
- 3:09Speaker 2: have about.
- 3:09Speaker 3: One point six So I leave one point six in
- 3:12Speaker 3: there for my great grandchildren for twenty one years.
- 3:15Speaker 2: That now turns into about three four five six.
- 3:18Speaker 3: That turns into about six point seven million dollars for
- 3:21Speaker 3: my great grandchildren. They don't get it all they could have.
- 3:25Speaker 3: So now that's about one point one know about two
- 3:28Speaker 3: point two point three two point three stays in for
- 3:31Speaker 3: my great great grandchildren, so they get about eight point
- 3:35Speaker 3: one million dollars. You see how that happens. That's compound
- 3:38Speaker 3: interest over twenty one years. So we have to look
- 3:42Speaker 3: at that number. But what makes the trigger and the
- 3:44Speaker 3: explosion even bigger is the fact that what Rockefeller did
- 3:48Speaker 3: is that was just his trust. What he did was,
- 3:52Speaker 3: now each children opened up, each child opened up a trust.
- 3:55Speaker 3: So now his children had a trust, so he would
- 3:58Speaker 3: pay his grandchildren, and his children would pay them.
- 4:00Speaker 2: That's twice.
- 4:01Speaker 3: So now his grand his children, then his grandchildren have
- 4:04Speaker 3: a trust, so his great grandchildren would get paid three times.
- 4:07Speaker 3: So now if we look at rocket fuller trust paid
- 4:09Speaker 3: out now eleven generations and counting continuously. And what he
- 4:14Speaker 3: also did was have a life insurance policy on every
- 4:17Speaker 3: person in the trust, creating his own bank.
- 4:20Speaker 2: And now what does that do? This is my structure.
- 4:22Speaker 3: Also, any one of my children or grandchildre who want
- 4:25Speaker 3: to start a business, what do they do? Talk to
- 4:27Speaker 3: the trustees and now you borrow money. We become our
- 4:30Speaker 3: own bank. So when someone dies, that money goes into
- 4:33Speaker 3: the trust. You pay when you get the policy, you
- 4:36Speaker 3: pay it out right. So now that money is available
- 4:37Speaker 3: in the trust. So now also what I did was
- 4:40Speaker 3: I re retweaked my trust last year and it was
- 4:43Speaker 3: twenty one that I wouldn't give him money.
- 4:45Speaker 2: I changed it.
- 4:46Speaker 3: I changed the way they get money at eighteen and
- 4:48Speaker 3: they can have a business started at eleven. You know
- 4:51Speaker 3: why because now with technology, kids are now figuring out
- 4:54Speaker 3: new ways.
- 4:55Speaker 2: To start a business.
- 4:56Speaker 3: So I want them to be able to present a
- 4:58Speaker 3: business loan, a business proposal to the trustees so they
- 5:01Speaker 3: could borrow money. These are the things where we don't
- 5:04Speaker 3: look at them. When people say I don't have the
- 5:06Speaker 3: money to do this, you know what, I tell them,
- 5:08Speaker 3: Yes you do. The are you breathe is money, a
- 5:11Speaker 3: life insurance policy. Soon as you die, you worth money.
- 5:15Speaker 3: They are generations, and there are groups of people. When
- 5:17Speaker 3: people die. Their objectives to make sure they have a
- 5:19Speaker 3: policy on their grandmother, policy on their father, to do
- 5:22Speaker 3: exactly what we're talking about. But we look at this
- 5:24Speaker 3: taboo when it can't be taboo. It shouldn't be taboo.
- 5:27Speaker 3: The main thing about it is you're thinking about the legacy.
- 5:30Speaker 3: And when I tell people, when I speak to you,
- 5:32Speaker 3: I'm not speaking. You don't speaking to your ley legacy.
- 5:34Speaker 3: You're just a vessel for me to get the message
- 5:36Speaker 3: to you so you can hear the message and see
- 5:39Speaker 3: it and it reverberates in your brain.
- 5:41Speaker 2: And as it's doing this, you literally.
- 5:43Speaker 3: Are talking to your legacy while I'm speaking, going I
- 5:46Speaker 3: got you, don't worry.
- 5:48Speaker 2: Storm told me how to do it. Now I'm gonna
- 5:50Speaker 2: give me a life insurance policy.
- 5:51Speaker 3: When people have a life insurance policy, let's say roughly
- 5:54Speaker 3: four million dollars, you have half a million dollars left
- 5:56Speaker 3: on your home mortgage, and you say to yourself, I'm
- 5:59Speaker 3: leave my family a million dollar. Actually you're not, because
- 6:03Speaker 3: when you die, that policy has to pay half a
- 6:06Speaker 3: million to the mortgage so they can.
- 6:07Speaker 2: Stay in the house.
- 6:08Speaker 3: You're only leaving them half a million dollars. We don't
- 6:10Speaker 3: think about that mortgage behind us.
- 6:12Speaker 2: So this is where I say, get yourself a whole life.
- 6:15Speaker 3: Excuse me, get yourself a term that's for a half
- 6:19Speaker 3: a million or a million dollars just to cover the
- 6:21Speaker 3: house so your real policy doesn't get broken up. And
- 6:25Speaker 3: now you have that term pay off the mortgage, any
- 6:27Speaker 3: money left, put it in a broken's account, and now
- 6:29Speaker 3: you start the system.
- 6:32Speaker 4: So let's stay on this conversation about the trust for
- 6:33Speaker 4: a minute. So irrevocable life insurance trust or revocable.
- 6:38Speaker 2: Left's just start off as a revocable because you want
- 6:40Speaker 2: to be able to say and you can change it. Yes,
- 6:44Speaker 2: all right? So all right? So who shut this up
- 6:46Speaker 2: for you? Your attorney? Yeah? My statement? You told them
- 6:49Speaker 2: or they earners? What's up.
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- 9:41Speaker 4: You educated them when they educated you, obviously to already
- 9:43Speaker 4: educate because their attorney. But it sounds like you kind
- 9:46Speaker 4: of already had some idea of what you wanted to do,
- 9:48Speaker 4: because you did some reading before that.
- 9:50Speaker 2: So what was the process?
- 9:51Speaker 4: You kind of said, this is what I want to do,
- 9:53Speaker 4: and then they kind of added to it, or they
- 9:55Speaker 4: said this is what you should do.
- 9:57Speaker 3: I came to them with my plan and my structure first,
- 10:00Speaker 3: and I really wasn't taking note for an answer because
- 10:02Speaker 3: I know it could be done. And there are some
- 10:04Speaker 3: people that, like there are mechanics who cars are broke,
- 10:08Speaker 3: like they just don't know fully how to do certain things.
- 10:12Speaker 3: So you really have to find the right person that
- 10:15Speaker 3: does these things. And I would always say, speak to
- 10:17Speaker 3: someone who has a trust, speak to someone who you know.
- 10:21Speaker 3: They can refer you to someone, but that takes time,
- 10:23Speaker 3: but they would give me little tidbits of where we
- 10:26Speaker 3: can do this, or they have a network of people
- 10:30Speaker 3: and a law firm and they reach out to them.
- 10:32Speaker 3: Like my first trust cost me about twelve thousand dollars.
- 10:35Speaker 3: My newest one costs me roughly almost twenty thousand because
- 10:38Speaker 3: I have a lot of.
- 10:39Speaker 2: Things to fund it with.
- 10:41Speaker 3: But if starting out, trust probably run you anywhere from
- 10:44Speaker 3: three to six thousand dollars.
- 10:45Speaker 2: But you have to look at the big picture.
- 10:47Speaker 3: But I started out having a plan and I really
- 10:50Speaker 3: really was adamant about getting this structure done.
- 10:53Speaker 2: That was it for me. You will too with the trust.
- 10:57Speaker 2: There's a thing called a poor overwill.
- 10:59Speaker 3: That's attached to the trust. For all the items that
- 11:01Speaker 3: you don't put into the trust automatically palls over and
- 11:04Speaker 3: fall into the will, like jewelry, like things that are
- 11:08Speaker 3: air looms, it'll automatically go in that will.
- 11:10Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm saying that thinking obviously you're educate. How often
- 11:14Speaker 5: are you meeting with your trust attorney? Because I was
- 11:16Speaker 5: having a conversation with a young lady the other day
- 11:18Speaker 5: and she's finding it hard to have her parents, you know,
- 11:20Speaker 5: even buy into the idea of a trust. So how
- 11:23Speaker 5: often did you meet with the family if you did
- 11:26Speaker 5: at all? And how often did you meet with the
- 11:27Speaker 5: trust attorney? Is that like a once a year thing
- 11:29Speaker 5: or was it every six months? Because I'm sure you
- 11:31Speaker 5: acquiring properties and other assets throughout the year, Like, how
- 11:35Speaker 5: often is that happening?
- 11:37Speaker 3: In the beginning, when I started, we had to have
- 11:38Speaker 3: a conversation literally it was about almost every other week,
- 11:41Speaker 3: sometimes every week to plan us out with insurance and
- 11:45Speaker 3: all that stuff.
- 11:46Speaker 2: Very complicated.
- 11:46Speaker 3: But once it was set, the updating of the trust
- 11:50Speaker 3: is every three years, right, But if there's something of
- 11:53Speaker 3: urgency that I need to update because here's the thing
- 11:56Speaker 3: and I want to throw this apart.
- 11:57Speaker 2: Also, I'm gonna drop it, y'all pick this up.
- 12:00Speaker 3: When you're buying things in you're holding company, you're holding
- 12:03Speaker 3: LLC should be in the name of your trust. So
- 12:06Speaker 3: if something happens to you, the properties automatically fall into
- 12:11Speaker 3: the trust. Automatically fall in there, so you don't have
- 12:16Speaker 3: to fund the trust because the trust own the LLC.
- 12:20Speaker 3: So if let me give you a quick example. You
- 12:23Speaker 3: know how you put your name on every single LLC.
- 12:26Speaker 3: You open up a LLC, you put your name on it,
- 12:28Speaker 3: open up the LLC, you put your name on it.
- 12:29Speaker 3: But if you was to have the property one two
- 12:32Speaker 3: three Smith Street in its own LLC, the name on
- 12:36Speaker 3: that LLC would not be you, it would be your trust.
- 12:41Speaker 3: So if something ever happens, it automatically goes to the
- 12:45Speaker 3: trust because you sign the trust over as the owner.
- 12:48Speaker 3: Does that make sense? Automatically so would trinkle effect. So
- 12:52Speaker 3: with that being said, excuse me. So with that being said,
- 12:55Speaker 3: you wouldn't have to fund one at a time. You
- 12:57Speaker 3: could just have that trust own it. All these LLCs
- 13:00Speaker 3: bile straighten from your holding. But also to let me
- 13:04Speaker 3: not glaze over something you said, it's so important to
- 13:07Speaker 3: have the conversation with your family and sit them down
- 13:10Speaker 3: and explain. Because my thing was, after everything's said and done,
- 13:14Speaker 3: my lawyer, we would have the conversation with each one
- 13:16Speaker 3: of them. Here's who's getting this. Who's the trust there's
- 13:20Speaker 3: the trustee. This is what's going to happen. This is
- 13:23Speaker 3: what it's supposed to be. I want you to do this,
- 13:26Speaker 3: and it's a thing I'll call a letter of trust, handwritten.
- 13:29Speaker 3: I want this copy of this letter in my hand
- 13:31Speaker 3: written form and my signats be copied for every generation,
- 13:35Speaker 3: every trustee, so they could look and go he thought
- 13:38Speaker 3: about me. I want them to see what I meant
- 13:42Speaker 3: and why I did this, because that's powerful and they
- 13:46Speaker 3: will get it and go. Man, my great great grandfather
- 13:49Speaker 3: thought about me. So that letter you don't have to.
- 13:54Speaker 3: But the thing is always impacted. So you need to
- 13:56Speaker 3: have that discussion with your kids, your grandkids. There's only
- 14:00Speaker 3: so far trust can go. It only could go to
- 14:03Speaker 3: the last person alive in your generation up to a
- 14:07Speaker 3: certain age. So like if I have my grandchildren, my
- 14:11Speaker 3: last one or he would have to now take the
- 14:14Speaker 3: trust format and restart it again and follow the same thing.
- 14:18Speaker 3: Trust can't live on an infamy.
- 14:20Speaker 5: So you've created the generational wealth and the other part
- 14:22Speaker 5: was just the sustainable wealth yep. Like that's the key, right,
- 14:25Speaker 5: because it could get mixed up from generation generation. Yeah,
- 14:28Speaker 5: but what you're doing is pretty much putting up the
- 14:30Speaker 5: barriers like, no, we're going to sustain this forever, forever.
- 14:34Speaker 3: The biggest, biggest mistake that a lot of people make,
- 14:36Speaker 3: unfortunately when we have real estate is thinking that our
- 14:39Speaker 3: children want to be landlords.
- 14:42Speaker 2: We can't.
- 14:42Speaker 3: We can't assume that they want to be landlords. I
- 14:44Speaker 3: had a friend of mine who I knew through someone else.
- 14:48Speaker 3: He died, didn't have a trust, left the properties to
- 14:51Speaker 3: his kids in a will. They sold them because they
- 14:55Speaker 3: didn't want nothing to do with real estate. That's that
- 14:58Speaker 3: destroyed me because I what his objective was. So we
- 15:02Speaker 3: need to put things in place to go, Okay, if
- 15:04Speaker 3: you don't want to be a landlord, this is what
- 15:05Speaker 3: we're gonna do. I'm gonna have a company do this,
- 15:07Speaker 3: or we're gonna sell it. Put the properties in the
- 15:10Speaker 3: brokerage account where it's gaining compound interest to do something.
- 15:14Speaker 2: So that's the key. We need to stop, you.
- 15:16Speaker 3: Know, really projecting our our wants and needs on children
- 15:20Speaker 3: and grandkids when.
- 15:21Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, I got my own plan that's free.
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