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Heavy Metal Book Club: July 1979 · 22 Panels - A Comic Book Podcast

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Dillon Gilbertson: Thank you.
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Tad Eggleston: Good evening, everybody. Welcome back to 22 Panels and the Heavy Metal Book Club. I'm joined by my brother Peter, my buddy Matt, Dylan Gilbertson of My Neighbor Necromancer fame, and tonight we are going to discuss the July 19th
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Tad Eggleston: 1779… Issue of Heavy Metal Magazine.
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Matt: With a beautiful, beautiful…
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Tad Eggleston: Richard Corbin cover.
0:29
Tad Eggleston: Good evening, everybody. How you doing?
0:33
Matt: Not too bad.
0:36
Peter Eggleston Connor: I was.
0:36
Tad Eggleston: That's good.
0:37
Peter Eggleston Connor: I mean, I feel like this issue was a significant upgrade from the last issue we were at.
0:42
Dillon Gilbertson: Yes, significant. Significant and great.
0:45
Peter Eggleston Connor: Boom.
0:46
Dillon Gilbertson: A great, a great improvement.
0:49
Dillon Gilbertson: We'll give it much props.
0:52
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, they don't seem, at least so far, they don't seem to ever have more than…
0:59
Tad Eggleston: One dud in a row.
1:03
Tad Eggleston: You know, and, like, even the duds generally have, like.
1:08
Tad Eggleston: There were a couple things worth…
1:10
Tad Eggleston: worth it. I mean, I think… well, I mean…
1:13
Tad Eggleston: We wound up all liking the same things, but we liked the Sinbad and the Alien.
1:18
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yup.
1:21
Matt: Definitely more to choose from in this issue, which is nice.
1:23
Tad Eggleston: Yes, definitely more to choose from this issue.
1:27
Dillon Gilbertson: There's one story in particular, and we'll talk about it when we get there, but, like, it's gonna be very hard to choose my favorite panel just from that story.
1:37
Peter Eggleston Connor: That's fair.
1:38
Dillon Gilbertson: The art in it is crazy.
1:41
Peter Eggleston Connor: Is it a story without words?
1:43
Dillon Gilbertson: No.
1:43
Matt: Is it… does it start with… is it Attila the frog?
1:46
Dillon Gilbertson: No.
1:47
Matt: Oh, okay.
1:48
Dillon Gilbertson: I did have a good laugh at that one at the end.
1:51
Matt: I think it's great.
1:52
Peter Eggleston Connor: I did like that one at the end, yeah.
1:55
Dillon Gilbertson: Anyway…
1:56
Peter Eggleston Connor: I don't know if I liked it before the end, but I liked it.
1:58
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, before the end, I was like, I don't know if I like this comic, and then the end came, and I was like, oh, yeah, that's good. That's a good joke.
2:06
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, bum, bum.
2:09
Tad Eggleston: So we lead, though, with a…
2:11
Peter Eggleston Connor: Catgirl and the contents?
2:14
Peter Eggleston Connor: And this weird picture, and right before our lead.
2:18
Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, and don't forget the From Heavy Metal books.
2:23
Tad Eggleston: Well, CACREL in the contents.
2:29
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yup.
2:30
Tad Eggleston: Night on Bald Mountain is the name of… The Corbin, Rick Courtney.
2:36
Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, wow.
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Tad Eggleston: cover.
2:38
Peter Eggleston Connor: I don't think that mountain's very… I'll… I'll shut it down. I'll take myself out.
2:48
Dillon Gilbertson: This is…
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Tad Eggleston: And there's no trees or anything.
2:50
Peter Eggleston Connor: On the air? I know we talked about the cover off-air, but…
2:56
Dillon Gilbertson: The, the cover, the cover looks so… so… Zack Snyder…
3:02
Dillon Gilbertson: Say what you will about him as a director, but, like, he's… he's an immaculate cinematographer in framing.
3:09
Dillon Gilbertson: This looks like something that would be in a Zack Snyder film. Like, it's perfectly framed, like, the bodies around it would be moving in super slow motion.
3:18
Dillon Gilbertson: It would be practically a still frame that's just moving ever so slightly. It looks… it's just very well composed.
3:24
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, but this organ blasting fire in the middle with, like, all of the bent-out, like, all the organ pipes are just going in different directions, like, some of them are curved around.
3:34
Peter Eggleston Connor: That's pretty epic. Does, however, remind me of, the Bard, and mad Max Fury Road.
3:45
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah…
3:46
Peter Eggleston Connor: Just a little bit, not a lot.
3:48
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah. The, the Doof Warrior.
3:50
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yep.
3:51
Dillon Gilbertson: Got Doof Warrior vibes up there, just playing… Playing this apocalyptic… instrument.
3:59
Peter Eggleston Connor: Awful, that's okay.
4:00
Matt: But the rock's not moving.
4:02
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, it's not moving at 80 miles per hour.
4:04
Matt: We've got a portable rack.
4:06
Dillon Gilbertson: Come on, Peter.
4:07
Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh.
4:08
Matt: playing rock music.
4:10
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.
4:10
Peter Eggleston Connor: Probably.
4:13
Dillon Gilbertson: Sorry, it was just the flames, guys, it was just the flames, it got to me.
4:20
Dillon Gilbertson: Good cover.
4:24
Peter Eggleston Connor: It was a good car.
4:27
Tad Eggleston: And then, yeah, cool, cool cat girl.
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Peter Eggleston Connor: Yup.
4:32
Tad Eggleston: Do we have a title on that one?
4:34
Peter Eggleston Connor: on the catgirl.
4:37
Dillon Gilbertson: Oh, she's.
4:37
Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh… Okay, my joke doesn't apply anymore.
4:49
Tad Eggleston: Wait a minute, there it is. Illustration by…
4:55
Peter Eggleston Connor: Do you mean?
4:57
Dillon Gilbertson: others…
5:02
Tad Eggleston: You can't quite read it.
5:04
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, hold on a second.
5:06
Peter Eggleston Connor: Duracema. D-U-U-R-S-E-M-A.
5:13
Tad Eggleston: I don't know that name.
5:15
Peter Eggleston Connor: I don't know that name either.
5:18
Peter Eggleston Connor: Well, it's a cool cat, girl.
5:20
Tad Eggleston: And then we got an ad for the Alien graphic novel.
5:25
Tad Eggleston: We had an ad for the Alien movie, too, but everybody knows the Alien poster already.
5:31
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yep.
5:32
Tad Eggleston: I kinda like how they put the, the… the… Simonson panels inside a film.
5:44
Tad Eggleston: That's a… that's a good ad design.
5:46
Matt: Yeah, it's what's… it is, it really is.
5:48
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
5:50
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yep.
5:51
Tad Eggleston: I don't entirely know what this thing is…
5:54
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.
5:55
Peter Eggleston Connor: I don't.
5:56
Dillon Gilbertson: Not like they didn't know either.
5:57
Peter Eggleston Connor: Radioactive explosion or something?
5:59
Tad Eggleston: Right.
6:00
Peter Eggleston Connor: If you read what's below.
6:02
Tad Eggleston: I mean, it says there's some confusion about where this photograph was actually taken.
6:07
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yep.
6:09
Tad Eggleston: But it does look kind of cool, and… but I wouldn't actually call it a photograph. It looks more like a…
6:15
Tad Eggleston: Painting to me.
6:17
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, I don't think.
6:17
Tad Eggleston: I suppose I could be wrong.
6:19
Peter Eggleston Connor: Damn.
6:21
Tad Eggleston: But…
6:22
Peter Eggleston Connor: I mean, if that's a photograph, somebody, like… I don't know.
6:30
Tad Eggleston: And we've got our cigarette papers.
6:33
Tad Eggleston: That don't have the words tobacco anywhere.
6:37
Matt: Correct.
6:41
Tad Eggleston: Job gets rid of the blues.
6:46
Tad Eggleston: And then we've got our… our ad for the, so beautiful, so dangerous.
6:56
Tad Eggleston: Our first boobies of the episode, or issue?
6:59
Peter Eggleston Connor: I felt like it was, like, I remember reading this ad, and then, like, it using so beautiful, so dangerous, and then I wasn't entirely sure.
7:11
Tad Eggleston: You know, it says, please rush blank copies of Angus. He's so beautiful and so dangerous.
7:17
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, I missed that. Okay, yeah. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. So beautiful, so dangerous.
7:23
Tad Eggleston: And then some Sinbad.
7:29
Peter Eggleston Connor: It's in bed with a dog.
7:31
Peter Eggleston Connor: Sorry with him kicking a dog.
7:35
Tad Eggleston: I was actually… I was, even though the ending…
7:42
Tad Eggleston: I mean, the ending is kind of weird as a… as a standalone, just because…
7:55
Tad Eggleston: The least action of any chapter, right?
7:58
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.
7:59
Tad Eggleston: So it feels more like a coda.
8:02
Tad Eggleston: But I found it a satisfying ending.
8:06
Peter Eggleston Connor: How good are you?
8:08
Matt: I can see that, I agree with that.
8:10
Peter Eggleston Connor: So, it was kind of random that there's this other genie who's like, oh yeah, I'll put you all through all this.
8:15
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
8:16
Tad Eggleston: You pissed me off, so I put you through all of this, because your wife is my…
8:23
Peter Eggleston Connor: Nice.
8:24
Tad Eggleston: Nice, yeah.
8:26
Tad Eggleston: And you were… you were, you were a bad husband. But now I think you may have learned.
8:31
Tad Eggleston: And if you did learn, you'll be okay, and if you didn't learn, I'll be back.
8:36
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yup.
8:37
Tad Eggleston: And then Scheherazade finishes up and turns to her sister and finds out that she's running away.
8:48
Tad Eggleston: With, handsome topless man.
8:53
Matt: Is there any other kind?
8:57
Matt: That you would want to run away with? Probably not.
9:00
Dillon Gilbertson: We are not happy.
9:01
Peter Eggleston Connor: Or…
9:02
Dillon Gilbertson: accomplishments.
9:02
Peter Eggleston Connor: Tales of the Arabian Nights, or does that mean we're done?
9:06
Tad Eggleston: I think it might mean we're done.
9:09
Tad Eggleston: But who knows?
9:10
Peter Eggleston Connor: One story of Arabian Nights.
9:14
Peter Eggleston Connor: It's not tails, it's tail.
9:17
Tad Eggleston: Well, but it says… it says… well…
9:21
Tad Eggleston: I guess it does say New Tails.
9:24
Tad Eggleston: So maybe we'll get more.
9:27
Peter Eggleston Connor: Sorry, I'm a bit nitpicky, I don't really mind that much, but…
9:30
Tad Eggleston: I do… I do really just love this last panel, though.
9:36
Peter Eggleston Connor: Last panel.
9:38
Tad Eggleston: You know, the crescent moon, and the ship out at sea, and the rowboat on shore, and…
9:48
Tad Eggleston: Her running away with the sailor.
9:58
Tad Eggleston: And then, speaking of Superman… We've got Christopher Reeve on the cover of Starbucks.
10:03
Dillon Gilbertson: Didn't even notice that.
10:07
Matt: The great track. Do you know what the opposite of Christopher Reeve is?
10:11
Dillon Gilbertson: Christopher Walken.
10:13
Matt: Yeah… That never gets old.
10:19
Peter Eggleston Connor: Great Trap Part 3.
10:26
Matt: It's a trap! Admiral Ackbar did not make an appearance.
10:30
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, I didn't… I didn't see any Admiral Ackbar.
10:34
Dillon Gilbertson: Missed opportunity.
10:36
Matt: Absolutely.
10:38
Tad Eggleston: I don't think we've met out Admiral Ackbar yet, so it would have been kind of weird.
10:43
Tad Eggleston: Real time.
10:43
Matt: It would actually make it hilarious if there was some squid-looking dude in this.
10:48
Peter Eggleston Connor: There's, like, some… some, yeah, guy, fish-looking guy, he says, it's a drop! And then, like, years later.
10:55
Matt: Yeah, he's like, honey, trust me.
10:58
Dillon Gilbertson: They're gonna love this, it's great!
11:02
Matt: Slow burn! Slow burn humor!
11:06
Peter Eggleston Connor: And then somebody has to be like, did… did George Lucas ever get called out on this?
11:15
Peter Eggleston Connor: By the way, listen.
11:16
Tad Eggleston: I think one of my favorite things about this story is that, like, you've got the spaceships, but then you've got cars that look very classic.
11:24
Matt: And I love when spaceships look like fighter jets. Yeah.
11:28
Dillon Gilbertson: Hmm.
11:29
Matt: It's a nice genre.
11:30
Tad Eggleston: For sure.
11:31
Matt: that.
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Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, I feel like a lot of time, the, the reasoning is that, like, your spaceship doesn't have to be aerodynamic, because it's in space, but, like, you gotta get off the ground first, dude.
11:44
Matt: Right.
11:44
Dillon Gilbertson: That's what we're pulling.
11:45
Tad Eggleston: Ulcer lifts are for?
11:47
Dillon Gilbertson: Honey.
11:47
Matt: I also really dig it when the spaceships, are, like, Navy vessels. I don't know why, I just think that's really cool.
11:54
Dillon Gilbertson: Hmm… Yeah, like a Star Destroyer or something?
11:58
Matt: Yeah.
12:04
Peter Eggleston Connor: I like…
12:06
Peter Eggleston Connor: I don't know, the, this, this, villain guy on the previous page from what Ted's looking at.
12:12
Peter Eggleston Connor: Where did they say it?
12:21
Peter Eggleston Connor: I feel like this, oh, yeah, Boundryptus. Yes, it's him. He re- reaches the base.
12:30
Peter Eggleston Connor: It's like, I don't remember what we last knew about Von Richtes, but apparently he's here again now, and then they're like, oh yeah, and then he falls into a cliff.
12:39
Peter Eggleston Connor: Or falls off a cliff.
12:43
Peter Eggleston Connor: Like, so… is he gone, or are they just gonna pull him back again?
12:52
Peter Eggleston Connor: Anyhow… But…
13:00
Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, it's gotten to the point where it's pretty goofy, and I find it would be a thing.
13:07
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I… I kinda… Didn't remember the first two parts of the story well enough to.
13:15
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, and what.
13:15
Tad Eggleston: Honestly.
13:16
Peter Eggleston Connor: Funny.
13:16
Tad Eggleston: going on.
13:17
Peter Eggleston Connor: is… first two parts, there's actually, like, more parts even before that. They just didn't call them…
13:28
Peter Eggleston Connor: Like, this is a.
13:29
Tad Eggleston: Gotcha.
13:30
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, they called this the Great Trap Part 3, but they had things before they started calling it the Great Trap.
13:38
Peter Eggleston Connor: Part of the story.
13:39
Dillon Gilbertson: Hmm.
13:41
Tad Eggleston: You know, the great trap is the secret.
13:45
Peter Eggleston Connor: gas, but I'll… I get… it'd be like the sequel of the sequel of the sequel of the sequel.
13:50
Dillon Gilbertson: This is actually the…
13:51
Matt: There's a couple of prequels in there, too.
13:55
Dillon Gilbertson: You know, some legacy sequels, the whole…
13:58
Tad Eggleston: I also love this first panel of airtight Garage.
14:04
Matt: Yeah.
14:04
Matt: For sure.
14:09
Dillon Gilbertson: Why do you draw so many vertical lines, Mobius?
14:12
Dillon Gilbertson: It's a crazy weighted texture.
14:14
Matt: Oh,
14:16
Tad Eggleston: Because it looks cool.
14:17
Dillon Gilbertson: I mean, it does, you don't know.
14:19
Peter Eggleston Connor: Get all those vertical lines.
14:21
Matt: Okay, so I wonder, like, has anyone tried to decode the Mars code in the background there through the door?
14:28
Dillon Gilbertson: What?
14:29
Peter Eggleston Connor: Fourth code, with background, what?
14:31
Matt: Yeah, can you zoom in, Ted?
14:34
Dillon Gilbertson: I don't know that that's Morse code, it's more… it's just… more lettering?
14:38
Matt: No, I know, but it looks like it could be.
14:40
Dillon Gilbertson: It definitely looks… it really does look like Morse code, dear.
14:43
Matt: Could be hilarious.
14:44
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.
14:45
Dillon Gilbertson: It will say something like, I can't believe you wasted your entire afternoon trying to decode this wall.
14:50
Matt: out what this said, yeah. And by the way, drink more Ovaltine.
14:55
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, yeah, drink more of a tea crummy commercial.
15:06
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
15:10
Tad Eggleston: And then it was weird that we actually got a 6-panel grid from Mobius.
15:15
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, I was taken aback by this. It was very strange.
15:19
Tad Eggleston: Canada.
15:20
Matt: I did my best to keep it as dried, you know, just take it as dried.
15:23
Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, nice.
15:24
Tad Eggleston: Almost strong.
15:26
Peter Eggleston Connor: If you're being strange all the time, and you finally am like, we're gonna do something normal, then isn't that also fairly strange? Strange.
15:34
Tad Eggleston: That is true. I'll give you that.
15:39
Tad Eggleston: But… it was. It was… it was like, wait a minute, did Mobius go Kirby here?
15:46
Tad Eggleston: I know.
15:48
Tad Eggleston: For that matter, you even have some Kirby Crackle down here.
15:52
Matt: Yep, yeah, I didn't even know… you know what? Tad, thank you for putting that together for me.
15:59
Matt: Ugh.
16:00
Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh.
16:02
Tad Eggleston: I mean, it's not quite Kirby, you don't have anybody in a wrestling crouch.
16:07
Matt: True.
16:09
Tad Eggleston: And most of the proportions are accurate and consistent.
16:13
Matt: Correct.
16:15
Matt: Maybe that's why…
16:16
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, and it's a lightning that you're speaking of, and it's like, what is going on?
16:21
Tad Eggleston: So it's almost like… A mixture of modern Kirby with pre-Marvel Kirby.
16:31
Tad Eggleston: You know, back when he didn't draw 6 pages a day, and, like, Had greater detail.
16:38
Dillon Gilbertson: Post-crackle, but pre-wrestling pose.
16:45
Tad Eggleston: But it does, it feels very Kirby-inspired.
16:47
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, yeah.
16:48
Tad Eggleston: Or at least Kirby homage.
16:52
Peter Eggleston Connor: There you go.
16:52
Dillon Gilbertson: But there's… could have been some influence in there.
16:55
Tad Eggleston: You know, hell, this guy looks like he could be a new god.
16:59
Dillon Gilbertson: Yup.
17:00
Matt: He really does.
17:02
Dillon Gilbertson: Michael Frank.
17:05
Matt: Or… or one of the bad guys from the Eternals, I forgot what they were called.
17:09
Tad Eggleston: Ow.
17:11
Tad Eggleston: Man… ugh.
17:15
Tad Eggleston: I need to… to… to do my… do my page grab of this and send it to the Kirby Club.
17:22
Tad Eggleston: And I always forget which…
17:25
Dillon Gilbertson: What's the name of this new god? Wrong answers only.
17:31
Matt: Triceratips.
17:33
Dillon Gilbertson: How's it going?
17:35
Peter Eggleston Connor: So, fraud would be the wrong answer, right? Wrong answer in that case.
17:41
Peter Eggleston Connor: But if Grodd's the wrong answer, that makes it a right answer, doesn't it?
17:45
Dillon Gilbertson: Boy, you can't do that to me right now, Peter.
17:50
Dillon Gilbertson: I know the brain.
17:52
Tad Eggleston: But yeah, no, we are definitely going to have to…
17:57
Dillon Gilbertson: Breed Air Tight Garage together at some point.
18:00
Tad Eggleston: Oh, for sure.
18:02
Tad Eggleston: Because it's… I mean, it's definitely a jam comic, but I feel like it might actually work better if you…
18:09
Tad Eggleston: if you… Like, read all of the improvisation together.
18:17
Peter Eggleston Connor: Maybe.
18:18
Matt: It totally… it probably feels totally different.
18:20
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
18:22
Tad Eggleston: Hell yeah.
18:24
Peter Eggleston Connor: I… I believe…
18:26
Tad Eggleston: But I don't feel like it's right to do it until we finish reading it.
18:30
Tad Eggleston: in heavy metal.
18:32
Matt: Agreed.
18:32
Peter Eggleston Connor: Kind of, like, go away from…
18:37
Matt: Because then what? Then we read…
18:40
Matt: Right. Sections again in the future, and it's like, oh, hey, remember when we talked about this?
18:49
Tad Eggleston: So, here is our… we've got another 8 bells. Didn't we talk about we'd have more 8 bells?
18:56
Matt: Spider-Man?
18:56
Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, that's right.
18:58
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.
18:58
Peter Eggleston Connor: Another 8 we had at e-bills last time, too.
19:02
Tad Eggleston: Right.
19:02
Peter Eggleston Connor: Got that.
19:04
Peter Eggleston Connor: It's like, why is this called 8 Bells? And I was like, oh, that's right.
19:11
Dillon Gilbertson: The stingery…
19:13
Peter Eggleston Connor: stingery.
19:14
Dillon Gilbertson: I don't know why, but I kinda… I like the name Stingery.
19:18
Peter Eggleston Connor: So, Stingray?
19:20
Dillon Gilbertson: It's like an Australian stingray.
19:22
Peter Eggleston Connor: I pronounced it Stingar.
19:25
Dillon Gilbertson: Stinger, stinger.
19:27
Matt: Yeah.
19:28
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I thought it was Stingery.
19:30
Peter Eggleston Connor: shipping.
19:31
Tad Eggleston: No, I, I.
19:33
Dillon Gilbertson: Like dungarees, but stinging.
19:35
Matt: Yes.
19:38
Matt: The bees dungarees.
19:39
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah. The bees, they go on their knees.
19:43
Peter Eggleston Connor: Dangarrell.
19:47
Dillon Gilbertson: The we… the bees wear stingorees on their bee's knees.
19:53
Dillon Gilbertson: Anyway, this comic.
19:56
Peter Eggleston Connor: This is, like, the same… I mean…
20:01
Peter Eggleston Connor: I'm trying to remember the last comic, but I don't remember it looking quite like this, so I'm wondering if…
20:06
Tad Eggleston: No, it was a different character.
20:08
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah. I know it's a different character.
20:12
Peter Eggleston Connor: I know it was a whole different genre, if I remember correctly.
20:15
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
20:16
Peter Eggleston Connor: play.
20:17
Tad Eggleston: I mean, different in that it…
20:20
Peter Eggleston Connor: I was wondering if it was a different… was it a different artist, or was it the same.
20:24
Tad Eggleston: No, it was still Gray Morrow.
20:25
Peter Eggleston Connor: Okay.
20:29
Dillon Gilbertson: Making an appearance in Sinbad down there.
20:32
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, this… this fouls a little bit…
20:36
Peter Eggleston Connor: I think that particular image reminded me a little bit of Sinbad.
20:46
Tad Eggleston: His very last issue had all of the.
20:48
Dillon Gilbertson: Oh, God.
20:51
Dillon Gilbertson: That's why this…
20:52
Tad Eggleston: So bad.
20:55
Dillon Gilbertson: We've just chill.
20:56
Tad Eggleston: I managed to completely forget about Captain Future.
20:59
Peter Eggleston Connor: Until now.
21:07
Tad Eggleston: Must have been 2 issues back that had the last 8 bells.
21:13
Peter Eggleston Connor: I looked two issues back, not the last 8 bells.
21:17
Peter Eggleston Connor: Beautiful.
21:18
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, cause that one did… last issue definitely didn't.
21:22
Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, bottom.
21:23
Peter Eggleston Connor: No matter what losses, she was so bad.
21:29
Tad Eggleston: I'm not gonna bother to find it right now.
21:33
Tad Eggleston: It's not in the same folder.
21:37
Tad Eggleston: So, so too, too much, too much work.
21:40
Peter Eggleston Connor: Too much work.
21:42
Tad Eggleston: But I do, I do… I mean, this is kind of an odd story for heavy metal?
21:48
Tad Eggleston: I like this story a lot, but it, like…
21:52
Peter Eggleston Connor: It's a superhero, sodoricana.
21:55
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, it's like, it's like between superhero and noir.
21:58
Tad Eggleston: Right? So… It feels like it would fit.
22:03
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, it feels like it'd fit more in a pulp magazine than a sci-fi magazine.
22:08
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, I agree.
22:10
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, no, I can see it now, looking back at it.
22:15
Peter Eggleston Connor: Far…
22:15
Tad Eggleston: I… I enjoyed it.
22:17
Peter Eggleston Connor: Can you go?
22:19
Tad Eggleston: I love the twist where, where, where the, the…
22:25
Tad Eggleston: The wife thinks she's still protecting her husband, but then shows up and he's got his mistress, and is like, oh, well, fuck that.
22:34
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yep, heck yeah.
22:36
Peter Eggleston Connor: And in the end where they're like, and then she was gunned down in an alley. Or was she?
22:41
Tad Eggleston: Right.
22:49
Dillon Gilbertson: Old stingery.
22:54
Tad Eggleston: This is a cool picture. Actually, this is the silent one, yeah. The silent story was cool.
22:59
Dillon Gilbertson: I really wanted… I liked this one, I think, but it lost me about halfway through, and I… and I feel like I wanna like it more than I did.
23:09
Tad Eggleston: Bro.
23:11
Tad Eggleston: I can feel that. But I also feel like it predicts the iPad.
23:16
Dillon Gilbertson: Sure, yeah.
23:20
Tad Eggleston: Doesn't that feel like an iPad in a docking station?
23:23
Matt: Yeah.
23:24
Peter Eggleston Connor: Nope.
23:24
Dillon Gilbertson: It's called an iHome.
23:30
Peter Eggleston Connor: Okay, this is… this is where I want to ask Dylan something, because, it's important. So… so… go to the next page.
23:38
Peter Eggleston Connor: One more.
23:40
Peter Eggleston Connor: One more.
23:42
Dillon Gilbertson: This guy that looks vaguely like Hitler?
23:44
Peter Eggleston Connor: That was all I was gonna say.
23:47
Peter Eggleston Connor: Skeleton Key.
23:48
Matt: I love the skeleton piece!
23:50
Dillon Gilbertson: Yes, the skeleton.
23:51
Matt: Yes!
23:51
Dillon Gilbertson: standout moment, I just…
23:53
Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, by the way, I can already tell you what my favorite picture is, or my favorite panel.
23:56
Matt: panel, yeah, that was one of mine.
23:59
Dillon Gilbertson: Thank you.
24:00
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, yeah.
24:01
Dillon Gilbertson: Gotta go backward, I think.
24:02
Peter Eggleston Connor: Felton, yeah, I go back on one, page.
24:08
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, I like it, because, like, most of the time they do these skeleton keys, and it's, like, a bone, and it's T-shaped.
24:15
Dillon Gilbertson: This is a glass skeleton.
24:19
Dillon Gilbertson: I imagine… so listen, I don't know… I don't know how familiar you guys are with, like, the construction of actual locks, but, like, the internal mechanism of this lock must be so goddamn complicated.
24:29
Matt: complicated.
24:30
Dillon Gilbertson: a full 206-bone skeleton to… to open it.
24:35
Matt: market, yeah.
24:36
Matt: You don't know what that skeleton's doing when it gets in there?
24:39
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, yeah.
24:40
Matt: Yeah.
24:41
Dillon Gilbertson: Crazy.
24:42
Tad Eggleston: Okay, I am now looking at this… Differently…
24:50
Tad Eggleston: Because you have the gun pop out, and then you've got the gun…
24:55
Tad Eggleston: That whole frame go further out.
24:58
Tad Eggleston: And then the gun fires.
25:01
Dillon Gilbertson: True.
25:02
Tad Eggleston: But this is going backwards.
25:07
Dillon Gilbertson: Sure.
25:08
Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, they got fired in the previous one?
25:11
Tad Eggleston: Yeah… So I almost wonder if, like, shh… Watching the story in reverse?
25:22
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, but at some point, she's in one of the panels.
25:26
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, right here.
25:28
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, right there. She's in the round of the panels.
25:36
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, I feel like there's something going on here, and it…
25:40
Tad Eggleston: We've got some definite levels here that I hadn't… I love this… this…
25:45
Peter Eggleston Connor: Overhead shot of the room.
25:48
Peter Eggleston Connor: I feel like part of it for me is I had all of these pictures split in half.
25:55
Peter Eggleston Connor: The room with the guy on the floor, suggesting that he got shot.
25:59
Matt: It's just so clue. Like, Colonel Mustard did that with, I think.
26:02
Peter Eggleston Connor: That was, like, a clue.
26:03
Tad Eggleston: Well, he has been shot here.
26:07
Tad Eggleston: I mean, like…
26:08
Dillon Gilbertson: Looks so gruesome.
26:11
Peter Eggleston Connor: And then there's that picture in the middle, that guy. Was that the guy who was shot?
26:18
Peter Eggleston Connor: Is that the guy with the cigarette in his mouth?
26:21
Dillon Gilbertson: I don't know, man.
26:22
Peter Eggleston Connor: They've got different noses.
26:27
Tad Eggleston: And is it real, or is it a TV show?
26:34
Peter Eggleston Connor: I don't know, but at the end, they seemed to nuke some… some place.
26:42
Dillon Gilbertson: No.
26:44
Peter Eggleston Connor: Nope.
26:48
Tad Eggleston: It's one of the cooler stories. I mean, it really…
26:52
Peter Eggleston Connor: better.
26:52
Tad Eggleston: like this.
26:53
Peter Eggleston Connor: Go with pages at the same time.
26:57
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
26:59
Peter Eggleston Connor: Because when I was reading this earlier, I was like, oh, okay.
27:10
Tad Eggleston: The wing on screen, the wing from above… The wing from below… The bomb dropping…
27:24
Tad Eggleston: the mushroom cloud… Back to the TV.
27:28
Tad Eggleston: But not the TV from the beginning, it's the TV from here.
27:33
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yep, and it's being turned off.
27:44
Tad Eggleston: It's his TV.
27:49
Tad Eggleston: It's the Murdered Guy's TV.
28:04
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, this is cool.
28:06
Matt: Yeah, it had some great visuals. I really…
28:08
Tad Eggleston: I could spend a lot of time with this story.
28:10
Matt: Yes, very well thought out, very well produced, very well drawn.
28:17
Tad Eggleston: And I'm nowhere near ready to make conclusions about it. I, like…
28:25
Matt: I don't think we're supposed to.
28:29
Peter Eggleston Connor: I don't know.
28:30
Tad Eggleston: I think it's one that you can, and then you'll change them.
28:34
Matt: Exactly.
28:35
Tad Eggleston: They'll make new ones, and you'll go back to old ones, and then they'll find stuff in between.
28:45
Tad Eggleston: I imagine he had an intention. There are actually some panels that… are almost repeated?
28:54
Tad Eggleston: Like, these 3 panels… are almost identical.
29:00
Peter Eggleston Connor: Are they both identical, or are they identical?
29:07
Tad Eggleston: I think they're almost identical.
29:13
Dillon Gilbertson: They spot the difference on this?
29:16
Peter Eggleston Connor: Well, 5 differences!
29:18
Matt: Circle them, yeah, that's fine.
29:22
Tad Eggleston: I mean, it's like the… it's like the little subtle things that make it feel hand-drawn.
29:29
Tad Eggleston: more than, like, differences, differences. Does that make sense? Yeah. I don't think they're… I don't think they're cut and copied, I think they were drawn again.
29:40
Matt: Yes.
29:40
Tad Eggleston: Is what I meant by not quite…
29:44
Peter Eggleston Connor: The problem is, like, the more I look at them.
29:47
Peter Eggleston Connor: The less, like… normally, like, when you, like, look at hand-drawn things, like, even then you see, like, the little…
29:55
Peter Eggleston Connor: Contrasting.
29:58
Matt: Yeah, but the dots in the background are in the same positions.
30:02
Peter Eggleston Connor: Right, that's.
30:03
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, as I look at it, initially, I'm like, are the bende dots differently? And I'm like, maybe they're not.
30:09
Matt: Yeah.
30:10
Peter Eggleston Connor: I'm sure it's the same picture 3 times over.
30:12
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
30:13
Matt: But the wavy lines at the bottom.
30:17
Matt: No, they're very, very close. Yeah, no, I think it's the same picture.
30:21
Tad Eggleston: Damn.
30:22
Peter Eggleston Connor: because of all the lines and that sort of stuff, that it's like, oh, maybe they're a little bit different, but, like, I was, like, when I was looking at these earlier, I had that same feeling of, they look kind of the same and kind of different, and I looked at them close, I was like, I don't know, they look… I can't find any differences.
30:38
Tad Eggleston: See, this is the craziest optical illusion, though, for me, is that as I'm looking at it, and they look the same, but almost different, initially, for, like, half a second, the picture on the screen looks like it's a fourth, even though it's not at all.
30:59
Peter Eggleston Connor: Like, even if you look at it, like, that's the thing, like, I want to.
31:04
Tad Eggleston: It has just enough of the same wavy shape that you think it's a fourth, and it's like, wait a minute, why did I even think.
31:11
Dillon Gilbertson: At the tower.
31:12
Peter Eggleston Connor: Well, what I was wondering is, like, is it even part of, like, the shape? But I can't even find where it would be part.
31:19
Tad Eggleston: No!
31:19
Peter Eggleston Connor: Ape, so I don't think it is.
31:21
Tad Eggleston: No!
31:23
Peter Eggleston Connor: I think… I think it's literally a deceptive throw, right?
31:27
Tad Eggleston: Right!
31:34
Tad Eggleston: Is Citizens Beware, actually, the title of this? Let's go back to the table of contents really quick.
31:42
Matt: I feel like it could be?
31:47
Dillon Gilbertson: I bet it is.
31:48
Peter Eggleston Connor: I know.
31:48
Tad Eggleston: It is, Citizens Beware by Mark Fisher.
31:54
Matt: And that's a great way to work the title into the story.
31:56
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
31:57
Matt: Without having, like, extra words or any words.
32:00
Tad Eggleston: Right?
32:01
Matt: Yeah, that's, that's some brilliant, brilliant, illustration there.
32:06
Tad Eggleston: Do you know Mark Fisher. Matt, do you know Mark Fisher?
32:10
Matt: -
32:14
Peter Eggleston Connor: There you go.
32:16
Peter Eggleston Connor: Learn about something new every day.
32:29
Peter Eggleston Connor: Next up is… The boss.
32:35
Tad Eggleston: I love that.
32:36
Matt: Me too.
32:38
Dillon Gilbertson: Like the bus, I always like the bus.
32:40
Tad Eggleston: Oh, he's even a Chicago-based…
32:44
Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, you mean.
32:45
Matt: Mark Fisher, yeah, I'm looking him up, too.
32:48
Dillon Gilbertson: The Chicago bus.
32:51
Tad Eggleston: Music and music label owner.
32:54
Matt: Yeah.
32:55
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yo.
32:56
Tad Eggleston: Co-founded SkinGraph?
33:03
Peter Eggleston Connor: If he's Chicago-based, does that mean you have to reach out to him?
33:06
Tad Eggleston: It might…
33:11
Matt: He died in 2020… in 2017.
33:14
Tad Eggleston: Oh, well… Sweet.
33:16
Matt: I think this might be a different…
33:18
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, I was about to say, at Lambiac, they don't have a date of death.
33:23
Matt: Yeah, hold on. I'm on Wikipedia, so it could be the wrong Mark Fisher. It is.
33:27
Tad Eggleston: Oh, no, wait a minute.
33:29
Tad Eggleston: Oh, he should not be confused with British punk music critic and writer Mark Fisher, 1968, 2017. Yep, that's where I'm at. Yeah.
33:39
Matt: Sorry, false alarm.
33:43
Matt: Spoiler alert! Wait, no.
33:47
Peter Eggleston Connor: There you go.
34:02
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, I'm gonna… I'm digging his work, I'm gonna have to… Learn… learn more about him.
34:17
Tad Eggleston: SkinGraph Records is still there.
34:19
Dillon Gilbertson: Hmm.
34:23
Tad Eggleston: So maybe I can reach him through there.
34:26
Tad Eggleston: Hmm.
34:28
Tad Eggleston: Alright.
34:30
Tad Eggleston: Done with that rabbit hole for now.
34:34
Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, boy.
34:34
Matt: We're gonna put a pin in that.
34:37
Peter Eggleston Connor: Little pain.
34:38
Tad Eggleston: Well, look at that! General inquiries go to…
34:41
Tad Eggleston: get skin graft records. I wonder if that is Mark?
34:46
Tad Eggleston: Fisher.
34:48
Dillon Gilbertson: down the rabbit hole, Tad.
34:50
Tad Eggleston: sorry, sorry.
34:53
Tad Eggleston: Dig my way out of the rabbit hole.
34:56
Peter Eggleston Connor: Pull out! Pull out!
34:58
Matt: Float!
35:01
Tad Eggleston: Oh, yeah, no, this was… this was one of my favorite buses.
35:04
Dillon Gilbertson: It's a good bus.
35:05
Matt: Oh, yeah.
35:08
Peter Eggleston Connor: It looks like you're looking at a giant insect, and then slowly it becomes clear that it's a normal-sized insect.
35:14
Peter Eggleston Connor: You're looking at the bus coming at you, and then suddenly you're looking at the bus coming away, and there's another insect.
35:21
Peter Eggleston Connor: Only… it is a giant insect this time.
35:24
Tad Eggleston: Or it's just the whole thing is playing with perspective.
35:28
Matt: Right, that's how I read it. Yes and no.
35:30
Tad Eggleston: Yeah. I mean, it reminds me a lot of,
35:35
Tad Eggleston: I'm trying to remember the name of Mr. Invincible's Sidekick.
35:40
Peter Eggleston Connor: So, if this is all as playing with perspec- perspective, and I'm okay if it is, does that mean that the boss just suddenly, like.
35:50
Peter Eggleston Connor: fell… Into a massive pothole.
35:55
Matt: Okay, it could.
35:58
Tad Eggleston: No, no, no, no, I mean… I didn't mean.
36:00
Matt: That's awesome!
36:01
Tad Eggleston: playing with, with, with, there's this fantastic French comic.
36:09
Tad Eggleston: called Mr. Invincible, where Mr. Invincible
36:15
Tad Eggleston: His powers and ability are Fourth Wall Awareness.
36:19
Tad Eggleston: Recognition and precognition, spatial manipulation, teleportation, trying…
36:25
Tad Eggleston: Time travel, but really, it's that, like, he can… Reach across panels.
36:32
Matt: Yeah.
36:35
Tad Eggleston: But he has… yeah, using the magic of comics, Mr. Invincible… is…
36:47
Tad Eggleston: Able to treat spacetime of his world as a comic book strip like the reader while breaking the fourth wall of the comic book panels.
36:54
Tad Eggleston: This allows him to do various metafiction and paradoxical stuff.
36:58
Tad Eggleston: One of his villains can break through the page, so, like, he can…
37:04
Tad Eggleston: He can, like, open a door and go on to the other side of the page.
37:11
Matt: Like, you have to be really high to think up shit like that, and you have to be really creative
37:17
Matt: Keep going.
37:18
Tad Eggleston: But what I love, and I'm trying.
37:20
Peter Eggleston Connor: It's really hard to think of shit like that? Damn.
37:23
Peter Eggleston Connor: Damn.
37:24
Tad Eggleston: the name of his, sidekick. His sidekick… Is able to… 2d. 2D.
37:41
Matt: I'm lucky.
37:42
Tad Eggleston: It's the name of his sidekick. So, like, if… if…
37:47
Tad Eggleston: in this situation, like, 2D would be able to pick up the bus in the distance and bring it to him while keeping it the same size that it was in the distance, or vice versa, take this hammer here and take it to the… you know, take it off to the distance so that it's now a hammer that he can smash a house with.
38:04
Dillon Gilbertson: Right, right.
38:09
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yes.
38:10
Tad Eggleston: So yes, that's, that's, that's what this, this.
38:19
Peter Eggleston Connor: Mine, yup.
38:22
Tad Eggleston: This particular air bus stop reminds me of is… is… Mr. Invincible, and 2D.
38:38
Matt: Yeah, I like it.
38:43
Tad Eggleston: Our normal amount of…
38:51
Tad Eggleston: loving it and hating it in the letters page. So, though, I, like…
38:58
Tad Eggleston: I still don't get, particularly with issue 28, how you could still be picking it up to write letters if you think it sucks.
39:05
Dillon Gilbertson: Right.
39:06
Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, yeah.
39:09
Peter Eggleston Connor: what I wanted to… What I wanted to… what I was bewildered by was…
39:15
Peter Eggleston Connor: One of… one of the people shares our, opinion on 1996.
39:21
Peter Eggleston Connor: And he's, junk like 1996, he's wearing pretty thin, and the other person is like, Oh…
39:33
Peter Eggleston Connor: I'd like an issue, compiled of the edition of all 1996.
39:38
Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, boy.
39:39
Tad Eggleston: And I have a feeling that it's the difference between somebody who was trying to read it and somebody who was really just looking at the art.
39:47
Matt: Well, if you notice, this guy drew the picture above his letter.
39:54
Peter Eggleston Connor: Boom.
39:56
Tad Eggleston: Is that a Montelier?
39:58
Tad Eggleston: Or is that…
40:00
Matt: No, it's Enchaput.
40:02
Tad Eggleston: Oh.
40:03
Matt: He drew this with his letter and sent it in.
40:07
Tad Eggleston: Gotcha.
40:08
Matt: And I think that's awesome!
40:10
Peter Eggleston Connor: That's fair.
40:11
Tad Eggleston: But Rich Kaplan is the one that wants a collection of 1996.
40:16
Matt: Yes. Andrew Putt wants more Mobius.
40:20
Peter Eggleston Connor: He, he's got one.
40:22
Tad Eggleston: But I…
40:25
Tad Eggleston: I will point out, and at some point, since it's not available digitally, you guys are gonna have to pick up the…
40:31
Tad Eggleston: the actual… physical copy from New York Review Books.
40:36
Tad Eggleston: I have… Chantaliers.
40:45
Tad Eggleston: Three of them, including the one that we're gonna have later in this issue.
40:52
Tad Eggleston: And a completely different… translation of 1996.
40:58
Matt: Oh, yeah, you told us about that.
40:59
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yay.
40:59
Tad Eggleston: And it makes a massive difference.
41:02
Peter Eggleston Connor: No, I completely believe that. I mean, like, I don't…
41:06
Peter Eggleston Connor: I think, yeah, my… my comment was, based off of the 1996 that we saw here, not the 1996, like, you know.
41:14
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I would agree with Chaput more than Kaplan, but also, that makes me think that it's more likely that Kaplan
41:23
Tad Eggleston: Was strictly appreciating the art.
41:27
Matt: Could be.
41:30
Tad Eggleston: And or has the brain that was able to read the gibberish?
41:35
Tad Eggleston: Well…
41:36
Peter Eggleston Connor: Or have the brain to be like, oh, that's gibberish, and skip the gibberish.
41:40
Tad Eggleston: Right.
41:41
Tad Eggleston: Right.
41:43
Matt: And treat it like a silent comic.
41:47
Tad Eggleston: And so, alright, This one, to me, is very much for… Matt and Dylan.
41:57
Dillon Gilbertson: I loved the art in this so much. Why is it very much for both of us?
42:02
Peter Eggleston Connor: I look for Matt and Dullo.
42:04
Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, I want your stuff too, but Neil Adams in Heavy Metal.
42:09
Peter Eggleston Connor: I'm assuming.
42:09
Tad Eggleston: Assuming they know Neil Adams more than you do.
42:17
Tad Eggleston: What?
42:20
Peter Eggleston Connor: Not at all.
42:21
Tad Eggleston: I know Matt knows Neil Adams.
42:27
Peter Eggleston Connor: Matt just grinned and…
42:28
Tad Eggleston: Though I'm also kind of curious, because every time a page is signed, it's signed by the other guy.
42:35
Dillon Gilbertson: Hmm.
42:36
Tad Eggleston: Is it possible that Neil Adams wrote this?
42:41
Tad Eggleston: That would be really weird.
42:42
Dillon Gilbertson: I mean, maybe.
42:43
Matt: sure it's the right Neil Adams?
42:45
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.
42:45
Tad Eggleston: Spelled right.
42:47
Matt: Yeah, huh?
42:50
Dillon Gilbertson: The… the… the panels… so that those… this false story is, like, this dude's… this colonizer…
42:56
Dillon Gilbertson: Is out… is out in space, and he's lonely, so he orders a woman to come and, like.
43:03
Dillon Gilbertson: pleasure him, basically.
43:05
Tad Eggleston: Send one that's smarter than him.
43:07
Dillon Gilbertson: I don't know if we're supposed to like him, but he's very unlikable just for those two reasons.
43:11
Tad Eggleston: Right?
43:14
Dillon Gilbertson: So the robot orders, and the robot's like, you know, this… This woman's like… Better.
43:20
Tad Eggleston: Place to place.
43:23
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
43:24
Tad Eggleston: Not only did I get you a companion, I got one that will make you more efficient. She's better than you.
43:33
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, so I mean, I'm just sort of, like, oh my god, see, this panel at the bottom, this last panel at the bottom of the page, is my favorite panel. Look at the design of this robot's head, and the colors on it.
43:44
Tad Eggleston: Oh, it's fantastic.
43:45
Peter Eggleston Connor: Boom.
43:46
Dillon Gilbertson: Most definitely.
43:48
Tad Eggleston: And there's another one that doesn't have… it's got the other…
43:52
Tad Eggleston: Okay, we're gonna have to do another Google.
43:55
Dillon Gilbertson: Because, like, the story is… is, like, the woman's on the way, and the robot's like, oh yeah, she's gonna make you better in every way, and you're gonna finish ahead of schedule, and it's gonna be great.
44:06
Dillon Gilbertson: But then, like, something malfunctions and she dies.
44:10
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, the train.
44:11
Dillon Gilbertson: Thank you.
44:11
Peter Eggleston Connor: malfunctions…
44:13
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, I feel like it's unclear as to whose fault it is.
44:16
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, no, that's what I actually found most interesting about the story, was… you're not really sure if it's, like, the robot's fault, or…
44:24
Dillon Gilbertson: I'm choosing to believe… I'm choosing to believe that it's the man's fault.
44:29
Tad Eggleston: I lean towards that because of the title.
44:33
Dillon Gilbertson: Because the rears its ugly green head.
44:34
Peter Eggleston Connor: Here's a ugly green head.
44:37
Dillon Gilbertson: What about it?
44:40
Tad Eggleston: I mean, that seems to imply jealousy.
44:44
Dillon Gilbertson: Oh yeah, that's fair. Yeah, because then the robot… I think the robot at one point's even, like, she's a higher class than you.
44:50
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
44:51
Dillon Gilbertson: And so the guy's like, fuck this, and just, like, has her killed, and the robot's like, do you want me to order you another one? And he's like, no, no, no, we're good.
44:59
Dillon Gilbertson: We're all good. I'll do all the work myself, and get all the credit.
45:04
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, I mean, like, that's definitely probably… like, what I'd like is that's definitely an easy way to interpret it, and I'm not saying it's the wrong way to interpret it.
45:13
Peter Eggleston Connor: I just, like…
45:14
Matt: It's just the wrong way to interpret it.
45:17
Dillon Gilbertson: No.
45:18
Peter Eggleston Connor: I just like the fact that, like, there is the ability to, like, keep it open, and then, like, be like, okay, is that really what happened, or
45:25
Peter Eggleston Connor: Like, the robot trying to motivate him to go do something, and… you know…
45:31
Dillon Gilbertson: Leah, what was the exception?
45:33
Peter Eggleston Connor: Good dog.
45:33
Dillon Gilbertson: Another way, what Peter might be saying is a more difficult way to interpret this, but also possibly equally as valid, is that it seems like the robot is this dude's only friend, right? Out here, like, he's just talking to the robot and stuff, and now the guy's getting a woman who's gonna come help him.
45:53
Dillon Gilbertson: And the guy… at some point, the guy even, like, seems excited that, like, I'm gonna be able to finish ahead of schedule. He says that I'm gonna be motivated, so I'm gonna finish ahead of schedule, and so, like, he's not giving her any credit anyway.
46:05
Dillon Gilbertson: But, like, the guy's now excited to have somebody else there with him, and so the robot could have killed her so that he could continue to be this man's only companion.
46:16
Peter Eggleston Connor: That's the only way to put it, yeah.
46:17
Dillon Gilbertson: Because of jealousy.
46:19
Peter Eggleston Connor: That could also, yeah.
46:22
Dillon Gilbertson: And so I think the both of those ways are… I think the first way that I said is more likely, but I think both of those are… are… are good interpretations.
46:30
Peter Eggleston Connor: And what it can also be is that you just completely skip over the title whatsoever, and just say, oh, the transporter, or the tractor beam actually did fail, and she just fell to her death, and it was a terrible transport accident.
46:45
Dillon Gilbertson: It just happens sometimes, ain't just the way.
46:48
Dillon Gilbertson: If he's not…
46:49
Matt: Or twice last night.
46:50
Dillon Gilbertson: If you ignore the context…
46:51
Peter Eggleston Connor: Punching you in the face. It's all random.
46:55
Dillon Gilbertson: But, like, the… I… this is my… I'm gonna… I mean, spoilers, this is my favorite story, art-wise and story-wise.
47:01
Matt: It was… it's good.
47:02
Peter Eggleston Connor: Man, they're making a sequel!
47:05
Tad Eggleston: What I'm… what I'm reading here is…
47:10
Tad Eggleston: It was a comic strip collaboration between Michael Hinge and Neil Adams.
47:16
Tad Eggleston: Much of Hinge's art had already been used as cover art elsewhere, which Hinge also used.
47:30
Tad Eggleston: Style for another strip you did called, orbital?
47:43
Peter Eggleston Connor: And as I'm… I mean, I think this is more hinged than atoms, I guess, is what I'm really… here, let me…
47:49
Dillon Gilbertson: But who wrote it?
47:50
Tad Eggleston: Let me share what I'm looking at here.
47:54
Tad Eggleston: because here… Here are…
47:58
Dillon Gilbertson: I mean, if it was Neil Adams, there'd be dinosaurs at the center of the Earth and stuff, so…
48:04
Matt: You're not wrong.
48:05
Tad Eggleston: Nope.
48:10
Dillon Gilbertson: He'd be ordering a dinosaur to come up and pledge him instead.
48:13
Peter Eggleston Connor: Maybe they are.
48:13
Tad Eggleston: But see, here's… These are various… covers…
48:21
Dillon Gilbertson: That looks like what I just.
48:22
Tad Eggleston: And stuff that he did. Well, some of it is, like.
48:26
Tad Eggleston: Very much stuff that you just read.
48:29
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, a choice of gods.
48:32
Tad Eggleston: Has it…
48:32
Matt: It looks like it could be… columnar?
48:34
Tad Eggleston: What's…
48:35
Dillon Gilbertson: That's the same, that's the same image, that was the girl's face.
48:38
Tad Eggleston: No, that's the point, is…
48:39
Dillon Gilbertson: This is also the same…
48:41
Tad Eggleston: What it says is that
48:45
Tad Eggleston: much of his… his… I mean, it was… it was a collaboration between the two of them, so it was probably some Adam's art as well, because it doesn't say Adams wrote in.
48:57
Tad Eggleston: But that much of Hinge's artwork had already been used as cover art elsewhere.
49:03
Tad Eggleston: So he… so… so Neil Adams just took a bunch of his cover art and wrote a story about it, and then Hinge, like, filled in… filled in the middles.
49:11
Dillon Gilbertson: With more art, I guess?
49:13
Tad Eggleston: I mean, possibly, and or Adams did some of the draw… I mean, it's not impossible that Adams would have done some of the drawing.
49:24
Matt: The gas pump martini filler, though, was pretty cool.
49:27
Tad Eggleston: I mean, it seems to imply that they actually collaborated, that it wasn't just, like…
49:36
Peter Eggleston Connor: Berthon did all the work.
49:38
Tad Eggleston: Right, it's not just, like, Adams took…
49:41
Tad Eggleston: Took the covers and cobbled them together without… Input on the story.
49:48
Dillon Gilbertson: Think I love this story?
49:50
Tad Eggleston: I do too.
49:52
Peter Eggleston Connor: That's a great.
49:52
Tad Eggleston: But it's a really kind of…
49:55
Tad Eggleston: fascinating… I mean, I wish I could find something even more…
49:59
Dillon Gilbertson: I don't know.
49:59
Tad Eggleston: on how they…
50:02
Dillon Gilbertson: are…
50:03
Tad Eggleston: How they work together.
50:05
Dillon Gilbertson: Is Hinge still alive?
50:07
Peter Eggleston Connor: We haven't even talked about the art yet.
50:10
Dillon Gilbertson: I know.
50:10
Tad Eggleston: No, Hinge… Hinge is not still alive.
50:13
Dillon Gilbertson: Awful.
50:22
Matt: Why is Dave Gibbons listed?
50:26
Matt: That's what I'm looking for… looking at right now on the Pinterest page. Well, it's Pinterest, so it could be anything.
50:32
Tad Eggleston: Hmm.
50:36
Dillon Gilbertson: ghostwritten by.
50:37
Tad Eggleston: Could be the Dave… Could… could… could be that, that…
50:48
Tad Eggleston: that other pages nearby are Dave gave.
50:50
Matt: Yes.
50:51
Tad Eggleston: Who knows?
50:51
Matt: Yeah, I was gonna say, that seems odd.
50:55
Matt: Yeah, oddly specific.
51:01
Dillon Gilbertson: How much is it worth on Key Collector Comics?
51:06
Matt: 57. 8. 8.
51:08
Dillon Gilbertson: 8 bucks.
51:11
Peter Eggleston Connor: at the low.
51:13
Tad Eggleston: It's a non-key issue.
51:16
Dillon Gilbertson: I call it bullshit.
51:19
Dillon Gilbertson: It's got Rear's ugly head in it, how could it not be key?
51:25
Tad Eggleston: But yeah, no, I, I…
51:26
Dillon Gilbertson: Skeleton keys in it.
51:27
Tad Eggleston: I don't think we should go ahead and fall even further down the rabbit hole, but I…
51:34
Dillon Gilbertson: I feel like there's…
51:37
Tad Eggleston: There's a story about how that How this got put together.
51:42
Dillon Gilbertson: This… this story's gonna live in my brain for too long.
51:45
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, it's… it's great.
51:48
Dillon Gilbertson: It's really good, and like, it seems like the story behind it is way more interesting than the internet is giving us information for.
51:53
Tad Eggleston: Right, I mean… I mean, seriously, when have you heard of… a series of unrelated covers.
52:02
Matt: Being pulled together.
52:04
Tad Eggleston: Being pulled together, and added to, or whatever.
52:07
Matt: Yeah.
52:09
Tad Eggleston: And turned into a story.
52:13
Tad Eggleston: You know, it's got surprisingly good lettering for this era of…
52:19
Tad Eggleston: Heavy metal?
52:20
Matt: Yep.
52:21
Tad Eggleston: Where… how often do we complain about unreadability?
52:25
Matt: typography, yup.
52:27
Tad Eggleston: Right.
52:31
Tad Eggleston: And, you know, some of the subtle, subtle sh… you know, subtle…
52:39
Tad Eggleston: Differences in, in shapes of, of balloons.
52:42
Tad Eggleston: like, just make a difference.
52:48
Tad Eggleston: The color is just outstanding.
52:51
Peter Eggleston Connor: Go ahead.
52:52
Dillon Gilbertson: on the bottom right, like, I'll… I'll have a poster, a t-shirt of that.
52:56
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
52:59
Dillon Gilbertson: Bookmark? I don't give a shit, give it to me.
53:03
Tad Eggleston: Oh, this is… I didn't even, like, I think I… I think… well, it even says another drink, but I, like…
53:10
Tad Eggleston: The martinis out of the… Out of the gas pump, essentially.
53:17
Matt: I think it's brilliant.
53:19
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
53:20
Peter Eggleston Connor: Absolutely genius.
53:25
Tad Eggleston: And he's still pouring 3?
53:27
Tad Eggleston: Even though the woman…
53:30
Peter Eggleston Connor: They're all for the dude. I mean, robots, alcohol, unless.
53:34
Tad Eggleston: So, I mean, yeah, okay.
53:35
Dillon Gilbertson: This is actual gas, Peter. Come on.
53:39
Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, the robot wants the full credit!
53:42
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, so now he's gonna poison the guy by giving him a poison drink.
53:48
Peter Eggleston Connor: of gasoline.
53:50
Matt: Listen, there's… you're right, there's multiple ways… there's multiple and equally more difficult ways to interpret this story.
53:57
Peter Eggleston Connor: Why does this taste like gasoline? Well, I don't know, you're the one who made all the… Danish.
54:03
Dillon Gilbertson: It's… it's a… it's a promotional flavor, it's gasoline flavored.
54:08
Matt: Promotional… oh my god, that's funny.
54:10
Tad Eggleston: Well, how about this? You know, because on one level, he ordered her to, like, actually populate this colony, and here he is talking about needing to go back to work, and the robot is offering him another drink.
54:25
Tad Eggleston: So… maybe the robot doesn't want humans?
54:30
Tad Eggleston: on…
54:30
Matt: What… what clanker would…
54:33
Tad Eggleston: I mean… But I'm sayin'…
54:39
Dillon Gilbertson: Is it… is he secretly the good? Because they're also colonists.
54:43
Tad Eggleston: That's what I'm saying.
54:44
Dillon Gilbertson: Or, yeah.
54:55
Peter Eggleston Connor: I still wish there was a way to describe the way that these are all put together for our listeners, but it's pretty hard.
55:02
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, this is definitely one where I'm gonna say, if you… well, first of all…
55:07
Peter Eggleston Connor: do is, like, imagine psychedelic imagery? Yeah, okay, that's, that's, like.
55:12
Tad Eggleston: But this is where I'm gonna say, if you can find the July 79 issue of Heavy Metal, do so. But, like, in our rabbit hole, we found how many different sites that had this whole story posted, so…
55:28
Peter Eggleston Connor: just Google rears its ugly head.
55:31
Tad Eggleston: Hinge and Adams.
55:32
Peter Eggleston Connor: Weird, it's okay.
55:33
Matt: Where it's not a key issue of heavy metal?
55:36
Tad Eggleston: Yeah. Well, that just means it'll be cheaper if you find it. Sure.
55:40
Matt: Yeah, exactly.
55:44
Tad Eggleston: Alright, Matt, your guy, Vaughn Bode.
55:46
Matt: Love Vamboni!
55:47
Dillon Gilbertson: I love Zooks. Zooks is great.
55:50
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, this is fine.
55:51
Tad Eggleston: This is fun.
55:54
Dillon Gilbertson: Just the dumbest ass pilot.
55:57
Tad Eggleston: Yup.
55:59
Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, yeah.
56:01
Tad Eggleston: Yipes! I was out of fuel!
56:06
Matt: Yeah, it's just great!
56:08
Tad Eggleston: Sergeant, you bumbling dope, you forgot to put your wheels down!
56:14
Peter Eggleston Connor: Don't buzz the launch pad. Hey, that's a great idea!
56:17
Peter Eggleston Connor: I think I buzzed the launch pad!
56:21
Tad Eggleston: Sunflower, don't land, you forgot!
56:29
Dillon Gilbertson: He's gonna be the first lizard in space, or whatever.
56:34
Peter Eggleston Connor: Apparently.
56:35
Tad Eggleston: This is a better… this is one of the better ads for a subscription, too.
56:40
Peter Eggleston Connor: But that's…
56:41
Tad Eggleston: Set a… I don't even know.
56:44
Tad Eggleston: Is… is… is this… Does anybody remember this mouse, or is this coming up?
56:50
Peter Eggleston Connor: I don't remember that mouse. I also don't remember that lizard.
56:54
Matt: I'm gonna say it's coming up, because I.
56:56
Tad Eggleston: Oh, man!
56:58
Tad Eggleston: I mean, some of these I recognize, you know, we got some So Beautiful, So Dangerous, we've got whatever that story that looked like it was…
57:09
Peter Eggleston Connor: I can say, like, everything else…
57:12
Peter Eggleston Connor: Except, I don't know if I recognize the woman in the background, either.
57:17
Matt: Which woman in the background?
57:19
Peter Eggleston Connor: A naked woman in the background.
57:21
Matt: Oh, oh, the one that's jumping through space, yeah, okay.
57:23
Peter Eggleston Connor: Lam.
57:27
Peter Eggleston Connor: The one…
57:28
Tad Eggleston: And at this time, you could still order… All of the back issues.
57:34
Matt: Dude, it was just a couple of years ago.
57:38
Matt: where you could still do that on heavy metal's site. They had.
57:41
Tad Eggleston: Really?
57:41
Matt: Yes!
57:43
Matt: Yes. I, 10 years ago, you could still get them, almost all of them, from heavy metal.
57:50
Tad Eggleston: I did dig this picture.
57:53
Matt: I did not bother to…
57:56
Tad Eggleston: Did you read about the young gnome? Did anybody read about the Young Gnome? Nope. I thought about reading about the young gnome, because I dig… dug this picture.
58:05
Dillon Gilbertson: You dig dug it?
58:07
Tad Eggleston: I dug the picture.
58:10
Peter Eggleston Connor: Well, not TikTok yet.
58:11
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.
58:13
Peter Eggleston Connor: I'm sad.
58:16
Peter Eggleston Connor: dumb.
58:17
Tad Eggleston: And then our Chantal Montier.
58:20
Tad Eggleston: Which wasn't nearly as annoying with, like, translation that, like.
58:25
Dillon Gilbertson: 19.
58:25
Tad Eggleston: Didn't involve gibberish.
58:29
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, no? It's actually kind of curious, and you're sort of interested in where it's going.
58:44
Peter Eggleston Connor: There's something about a curfew in it.
58:47
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
58:48
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, they're closing at 6 rather than 7 because of the curfew.
58:54
Peter Eggleston Connor: Nope.
58:55
Tad Eggleston: Each level down you go, the anti-atomic protection is better.
59:02
Tad Eggleston: When they get down to, like, the food court.
59:07
Peter Eggleston Connor: 100%.
59:09
Tad Eggleston: And then it's to be continued.
59:12
Peter Eggleston Connor: There's some weird weaning sound.
59:14
Tad Eggleston: Pinball and ice cream?
59:19
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yup.
59:20
Tad Eggleston: Sprint and Safari Europe, but it's got the Atari symbol above it.
59:26
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yep.
59:34
Tad Eggleston: Telefield, it continues to be weird.
59:38
Matt: Yeah,
59:38
Peter Eggleston Connor: But…
59:45
Tad Eggleston: Not bad, but weird.
59:47
Peter Eggleston Connor: I mean, they have something that looks like Dracula, but he's Von Helsink.
59:52
Tad Eggleston: He's definitely a vampire.
59:56
Peter Eggleston Connor: What?
59:57
Tad Eggleston: Look at those, look at those teeth.
1:00:01
Peter Eggleston Connor: You mean the canines that everybody has?
1:00:04
Tad Eggleston: Whatever.
1:00:08
Tad Eggleston: Look at that forehead, look at those teeth.
1:00:11
Tad Eggleston: I'm saying he's a vampire, dammit. Look at those fingers! Look at that cape.
1:00:15
Peter Eggleston Connor: is on Helsink, which suggests that he's the vampire hunter, not the vampire.
1:00:21
Matt: I don't know, I think he's a vampire.
1:00:23
Peter Eggleston Connor: I think you might be right. I mean, like, he's not a normal vampire, he's a psychic vampire, right?
1:00:29
Dillon Gilbertson: He's a Martian vampire.
1:00:30
Matt: Some vampires have psychic abilities.
1:00:33
Peter Eggleston Connor: No, no, no, I mean, he's sucking their psychic power. That's how he gets.
1:00:37
Tad Eggleston: The psychoplasma. I have to have another shot.
1:00:41
Matt: Right.
1:00:44
Dillon Gilbertson: Mycoplasma.
1:00:46
Peter Eggleston Connor: I mean, the imagery is pretty nice.
1:00:49
Tad Eggleston: No.
1:00:53
Peter Eggleston Connor: Though, I mean, like, the fact that he's running around with syringes is a little weird.
1:01:00
Peter Eggleston Connor: That's the other thing, he's not, like, biting their necks, he uses some weird syringe, and I'm not sure whether he's injecting them, or…
1:01:08
Matt: Extracting?
1:01:09
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah.
1:01:22
Tad Eggleston: And then Attila the Frog.
1:01:25
Matt: Loved it.
1:01:27
Tad Eggleston: Yeah…
1:01:29
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, I go back to… I loved it by the end, but before the end, I was like, what the fuck is this?
1:01:36
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, yeah, it's a difficult reading.
1:01:39
Matt: it.
1:01:40
Dillon Gilbertson: Is difficult… is difficult read, quote-unquote?
1:01:44
Peter Eggleston Connor: And also, I mean, like, it's difficult on a couple levels, it's difficult emotionally, and it's difficult, like.
1:01:52
Peter Eggleston Connor: I think now I see it a little bit better, but when I was reaching it originally, I was like.
1:01:56
Peter Eggleston Connor: what the hell's going on here? And, like, I guess it's a little…
1:02:00
Dillon Gilbertson: Just imagine what Attila the Hun was doing, but he's also a frog now.
1:02:04
Peter Eggleston Connor: No.
1:02:04
Matt: Huh.
1:02:05
Dillon Gilbertson: You kinda get the idea.
1:02:08
Tad Eggleston: All of the other frogs for the next 70 generations have a little bit of.
1:02:14
Dillon Gilbertson: Until I ended up. Yeah.
1:02:17
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah.
1:02:18
Dillon Gilbertson: Which is really only about a couple years, because frogs don't live that long.
1:02:22
Matt: They have short lifespan, yeah, for sure.
1:02:35
Tad Eggleston: Shorter when they get skewered by… By hungry human aliens.
1:02:42
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yep.
1:02:47
Dillon Gilbertson: That deep down comic was odd.
1:02:49
Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh… I feel like it'd be weird if you skewered a frog, and you're like, oh, I'm gonna, like, cook this now. Oh, I need to take this little metal part off of it.
1:03:00
Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, there's some weird fur that's on it. I'm gonna… I'm gonna pull that off. Oh, it's not actually attached, it's sort of like…
1:03:07
Tad Eggleston: Right.
1:03:07
Peter Eggleston Connor: Keep surround it.
1:03:10
Peter Eggleston Connor: At what point do you start questioning your food choices?
1:03:13
Dillon Gilbertson: Well, I think that they're… they're supposed to be alien frogs, like, they're on a different planet.
1:03:18
Dillon Gilbertson: eating weird creatures, because it's also the salamanders… Salamanders, yeah, Quidox 5.
1:03:24
Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, I get it.
1:03:25
Tad Eggleston: The salamanders are tastier.
1:03:27
Peter Eggleston Connor: But what I'm saying is, these products are wearing clothes.
1:03:31
Dillon Gilbertson: Yes, sir.
1:03:32
Dillon Gilbertson: They're hungry.
1:03:33
Tad Eggleston: I mean, you're assuming that they have rules about eating sentient beasts.
1:03:38
Matt: I think that…
1:03:38
Tad Eggleston: It might just be that they're allowed to eat anything that's smaller, regardless of sentience.
1:03:43
Dillon Gilbertson: I think hunger drives you to do strange things, and it's clear that they haven't eaten meat in a long time, and so they're.
1:03:50
Matt: Yeah, ask the Donner Party.
1:03:52
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, they're not gonna ask questions about the sentience of these frogs.
1:03:56
Peter Eggleston Connor: Fair enough.
1:04:00
Peter Eggleston Connor: Also, why do the other frogs just look chopped up and not, oh, frog legs? Nevermind.
1:04:09
Tad Eggleston: I do like that they have their spices, though.
1:04:12
Matt: Yeah, of course.
1:04:19
Peter Eggleston Connor: Bam.
1:04:19
Tad Eggleston: Down deep. Boing!
1:04:22
Tad Eggleston: Gotta love bouncing… bouncing off the ocean.
1:04:34
Tad Eggleston: Swimming with dolphins.
1:04:41
Dillon Gilbertson: I don't know if I was supposed to take anything away from this, or if it was just something that was fun for them to draw.
1:04:47
Matt: That's kind of what it felt like.
1:04:48
Peter Eggleston Connor: It's colic!
1:04:50
Peter Eggleston Connor: It could be, like, if you put yourself in the position of this guy, it could… it seems like it'd be a fun experience, like…
1:04:59
Peter Eggleston Connor: You know…
1:05:00
Dillon Gilbertson: Mescaline?
1:05:01
Tad Eggleston: Though it's also a dream. He's on a recliner on the beach.
1:05:06
Peter Eggleston Connor: That is true.
1:05:07
Dillon Gilbertson: Oh, I just put that together, you are correct.
1:05:14
Tad Eggleston: So, maybe he's a little high.
1:05:17
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah… I mean, dreams are weird.
1:05:19
Peter Eggleston Connor: Or, maybe.
1:05:19
Tad Eggleston: Mmm.
1:05:21
Peter Eggleston Connor: Or drunk.
1:05:24
Peter Eggleston Connor: Or he has a fever.
1:05:26
Tad Eggleston: or Al.
1:05:29
Peter Eggleston Connor: Or what?
1:05:29
Tad Eggleston: weird owl. He's a little weird owl.
1:05:31
Dillon Gilbertson: Just weird.
1:05:32
Peter Eggleston Connor: There you go.
1:05:34
Dillon Gilbertson: Just a weird ol' wow.
1:05:36
Peter Eggleston Connor: Just weird Al.
1:05:41
Tad Eggleston: Back when he had a mustache.
1:05:42
Peter Eggleston Connor: Right.
1:05:47
Tad Eggleston: I also didn't read… Chapter 5 of Starcrown.
1:05:53
Matt: Nope, me neither.
1:05:56
Tad Eggleston: Though the print is, is a readable size again.
1:06:04
Tad Eggleston: When I stopped reading, it was the one where the print was in, like, what, 6-point font?
1:06:10
Dillon Gilbertson: This was another one, because I think OnlyConnect was one of my favorite ones, maybe a couple times.
1:06:17
Dillon Gilbertson: I usually really like Alton Connect, and I think I should really like this one, but again, I got sort of lost somewhere near the end.
1:06:25
Peter Eggleston Connor: R.
1:06:26
Tad Eggleston: Where'd he come from? From the incubator? From the workshop? From elsewhere? From nowhere?
1:06:32
Dillon Gilbertson: So he says he's from the incubator, and the next one, like, they're running a test on him, and he says that he's a biodominance alpha. There's another one of them, so it seems like they don't like biodominance alphas.
1:06:44
Dillon Gilbertson: And so the guy's like.
1:06:45
Tad Eggleston: And just quiz number 2 on…
1:06:47
Dillon Gilbertson: So don't kill them yet, let's see what the answer to the next question is.
1:06:50
Tad Eggleston: There's a machine.
1:06:51
Dillon Gilbertson: So he… so he knows that he's a machine.
1:06:55
Dillon Gilbertson: But he's also… well, he's part human, so Biodominance Alpha…
1:07:00
Dillon Gilbertson: But he… he thinks of himself more as a machine than… than bio.
1:07:06
Tad Eggleston: Well, and he's going to be recycled.
1:07:08
Matt: Recycled, yeah.
1:07:09
Dillon Gilbertson: We're going to… so he's… So he's not biodominant.
1:07:13
Tad Eggleston: And that's what makes him rare.
1:07:17
Dillon Gilbertson: Is that he knows he's a machine, but he knows he's gonna die, or that he's meant to die, or meant to be recycled?
1:07:25
Peter Eggleston Connor: I are just being recycled.
1:07:30
Dillon Gilbertson: And then he is recycled.
1:07:34
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, I don't know what the heck is going on with that… that part there.
1:07:38
Peter Eggleston Connor: Because they're also talking about whether he should go to, like.
1:07:42
Peter Eggleston Connor: Be part of, like, the army, or be a…
1:07:46
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, but then they just trash him for some stupid reason.
1:07:50
Peter Eggleston Connor: I mean, like, again, I don't know how to interpret that. It's like, they put him in some vat, and he spills out of the vat into…
1:07:59
Peter Eggleston Connor: Like, the chair he was in, or another chair that's like the one he was in.
1:08:03
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.
1:08:05
Dillon Gilbertson: But also, someone's name in this story is Astro Gator, and that's pretty cool.
1:08:10
Tad Eggleston: Well, actually, here's a question.
1:08:13
Peter Eggleston Connor: Sure.
1:08:16
Tad Eggleston: here comes the next one. Is it the next one, or is it the same one?
1:08:20
Dillon Gilbertson: It seems like it's the… it's a… it's the next one that's made from the mix that also involve… includes the other one. Yeah, because he's being recycled. It goes into a vat, and is mixed up with all the other ones, and then he's.
1:08:33
Tad Eggleston: comes out…
1:08:34
Dillon Gilbertson: Yep.
1:08:36
Tad Eggleston: And here comes the next one.
1:08:38
Dillon Gilbertson: the next iteration of him.
1:08:39
Tad Eggleston: I think. So, is it just, like, this… this whole…
1:08:44
Tad Eggleston: Is it just a circular thing?
1:08:47
Dillon Gilbertson: They're just… they're just scrambling together all of the scraps from all the other ones and seeing what they get.
1:08:53
Dillon Gilbertson: Anyway…
1:08:56
Peter Eggleston Connor: That car's pretty sweet.
1:08:58
Tad Eggleston: It's pretty sweet, and I'm trying to remember the name of this one. This one had a cool title, too.
1:09:06
Tad Eggleston: Oh yeah, it's a boy named Sue.
1:09:11
Peter Eggleston Connor: Sweet.
1:09:13
Peter Eggleston Connor: by Kazwa.
1:09:17
Tad Eggleston: A boy named Sue.
1:09:18
Peter Eggleston Connor: Is that a boy? Hey.
1:09:24
Tad Eggleston: Oh. But that's the name of the painting, is A Boy Named Sue.
1:09:28
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yep.
1:09:29
Tad Eggleston: I feel like, I feel like there was just a Kaza collection.
1:09:35
Peter Eggleston Connor: Sure.
1:09:37
Peter Eggleston Connor: Released.
1:09:40
Tad Eggleston: Arcady.
1:09:45
Tad Eggleston: And the Lost Titan.
1:09:50
Tad Eggleston: It was just brought out from humanoids.
1:09:56
Tad Eggleston: So the people who do metal are a lot.
1:10:01
Tad Eggleston: It looks cool. I haven't read it yet.
1:10:02
Dillon Gilbertson: Metal Hurlin?
1:10:04
Dillon Gilbertson: For that book.
1:10:06
Tad Eggleston: a lot.
1:10:10
Tad Eggleston: new greedy.
1:10:12
Tad Eggleston: So…
1:10:18
Tad Eggleston: The question is… Dylan, what's your favorite ongoing?
1:10:27
Peter Eggleston Connor: Doing just one.
1:10:29
Peter Eggleston Connor: on you.
1:10:30
Tad Eggleston: Alright, Matt, what's your favorite ongoing?
1:10:36
Matt: Goodness gracious. I'm gonna go with airtight Garage this time, because I thought it was pretty cool.
1:10:40
Tad Eggleston: Okay!
1:10:42
Tad Eggleston: Okay.
1:10:43
Tad Eggleston: It's a pretty, pretty solid 2 pages.
1:10:47
Matt: Yup.
1:10:50
Tad Eggleston: Peter?
1:10:51
Peter Eggleston Connor: So here's my question. Is it only Connect considered an ongoing, or is it just a bunch of singles?
1:11:01
Tad Eggleston: I think we don't have rules.
1:11:03
Peter Eggleston Connor: Fair enough. I'll go with OnlineConnect.
1:11:08
Dillon Gilbertson: Was his favorite ongoing?
1:11:09
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yup.
1:11:10
Tad Eggleston: Yep.
1:11:15
Dillon Gilbertson: What was the one… I mean, OnlyConnect, do I want to say only Connect?
1:11:21
Dillon Gilbertson: There was another one, what,
1:11:34
Dillon Gilbertson: I think I'm also gonna say only connect?
1:11:39
Peter Eggleston Connor: And you… you can, you definitely are free to.
1:11:43
Dillon Gilbertson: Oh yeah, what were the… so let's see, Telefield, Shelter…
1:11:47
Peter Eggleston Connor: The Great Trap Part 3.
1:11:48
Dillon Gilbertson: Zooks. Oh, I'm gonna say Zooks.
1:11:51
Peter Eggleston Connor: Is Zoox an ongoing?
1:11:52
Dillon Gilbertson: Zooks, it says.
1:11:53
Tad Eggleston: It says to be continued.
1:11:55
Peter Eggleston Connor: There you go. Zeke's a death.
1:11:58
Peter Eggleston Connor: Chad, what's your favorite ongoing?
1:12:00
Tad Eggleston: I think I'm gonna go with…
1:12:10
Tad Eggleston: We're gonna call the bus an ongoing.
1:12:13
Peter Eggleston Connor: Fair enough.
1:12:14
Matt: If you can… Yeah, sure.
1:12:17
Tad Eggleston: If you can call only Connect at ongoing, then the buses.
1:12:20
Matt: It's absolutely ongoing.
1:12:21
Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
1:12:22
Peter Eggleston Connor: I buy it.
1:12:24
Tad Eggleston: Alright, Dylan, story!
1:12:27
Dillon Gilbertson: Where's its ugly head. Rear's its ugly green head.
1:12:34
Peter Eggleston Connor: I will second Dylan's ruse, it's ugly green head.
1:12:39
Matt: I will not third it, I picked Attila the Frog.
1:12:44
Peter Eggleston Connor: Fair enough.
1:12:46
Tad Eggleston: And I will also not third it, though it's tempting.
1:12:51
Matt: Because I'm gonna pick, Citizens Beware.
1:12:57
Matt: Yeah, that was a good one, too.
1:13:00
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, I mean…
1:13:01
Peter Eggleston Connor: Okay.
1:13:02
Tad Eggleston: Like, I essentially went… like… Where's his ugly green head, and citizens beware, if neither of them get…
1:13:13
Tad Eggleston: picked, or if one of them doesn't get picked, I have to pick it. If they both get picked, I probably would have done Stingery.
1:13:23
Peter Eggleston Connor: There you go.
1:13:26
Tad Eggleston: Because, I mean, there's just… that just…
1:13:31
Tad Eggleston: Like, all of them were… were just good.
1:13:35
Tad Eggleston: And, like, it was tough not to take the end of…
1:13:38
Tad Eggleston: The last voyage of Sinbad, too, for ongoing I found it very satisfying.
1:13:49
Tad Eggleston: And God, I have no idea for a panel.
1:13:53
Matt: Oh, I'm going with Skeleton Key.
1:13:55
Tad Eggleston: Skeleton key.
1:13:57
Dillon Gilbertson: Good one.
1:13:57
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, that was what I was gonna say.
1:14:00
Tad Eggleston: Oh, wow.
1:14:01
Peter Eggleston Connor: I'd say Mappy B.
1:14:02
Tad Eggleston: So we got Tuesday.
1:14:03
Peter Eggleston Connor: Did say it, like, way earlier in this episode, so…
1:14:07
Matt: We both did, so yeah, it's cool.
1:14:09
Dillon Gilbertson: It was a good one.
1:14:10
Peter Eggleston Connor: fast.
1:14:11
Peter Eggleston Connor: Best image in all the episodes.
1:14:14
Dillon Gilbertson: I think mine… mine is one of the ones from Rear's Ugly Green Head. It's either the big robot head panel at the bottom of one of the pages, or it's the reflection…
1:14:25
Dillon Gilbertson: Of the robot's legs in the water.
1:14:29
Peter Eggleston Connor: Those are good.
1:14:38
Tad Eggleston: Use a second…
1:14:49
Tad Eggleston: So you're saying…
1:14:57
Tad Eggleston: This head?
1:15:00
Dillon Gilbertson: No.
1:15:01
Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh.
1:15:02
Dillon Gilbertson: That one.
1:15:03
Matt: That one, yeah.
1:15:04
Dillon Gilbertson: So that one on the bottom, or the one on the right?
1:15:09
Tad Eggleston: So, either the reflection or the… so, both on… on… on this page.
1:15:16
Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, I'm gonna say the one on the bottom.
1:15:20
Tad Eggleston: Okay.
1:15:45
Tad Eggleston: You know what? I think…
1:15:50
Tad Eggleston: Just because I did love it so much… as a… as a coda.
1:16:02
Tad Eggleston: I'm gonna take my favorite panel from Sinbad, which is that last panel.
1:16:08
Tad Eggleston: with, the sister headed off into an adventure.
1:16:15
Peter Eggleston Connor: I love into something.
1:16:18
Tad Eggleston: Daniels,
1:16:21
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, she's… I get the feeling that she's just… she's not headed for a romp in the bushes. They're going off to the…
1:16:30
Tad Eggleston: to the…
1:16:31
Matt: It's…
1:16:32
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, the robot.
1:16:33
Matt: Oh my gosh.
1:16:34
Tad Eggleston: Right.
1:16:35
Dillon Gilbertson: It's a happily ever after.
1:16:36
Tad Eggleston: Story.
1:16:36
Peter Eggleston Connor: She's gonna… she's gonna… she's gonna be taken to the boat where there'll be that implication.
1:16:44
Peter Eggleston Connor: And it'll break her heart, and, you know… tosser.
1:16:47
Tad Eggleston: Well, yeah, but it'll be on some other island, and the adventure will continue.
1:16:54
Tad Eggleston: I didn't say she's headed off into… Happily ever after.
1:16:59
Peter Eggleston Connor: I mean, baby.
1:17:01
Tad Eggleston: That's possible, but that's not what I said, and that's not what it guarantees.
1:17:07
Peter Eggleston Connor: Maybe he'll just, like, get done romping her on the boat and toss her off right… right here in this part of the water.
1:17:14
Tad Eggleston: Well, but, like, there are genies in this world, so, like… Oh, that that.
1:17:20
Peter Eggleston Connor: Let's be careful here.
1:17:24
Peter Eggleston Connor: There are genies in the world of Sinbad.
1:17:27
Peter Eggleston Connor: These are the people telling the story of Sinbad.
1:17:31
Tad Eggleston: Are you trying to say that the story of Sinbad is not true?
1:17:35
Peter Eggleston Connor: I'm safe.
1:17:36
Matt: Are you saying it's fiction?
1:17:38
Tad Eggleston: Are you saying that Sharon?
1:17:40
Peter Eggleston Connor: Got it.
1:17:41
Tad Eggleston: Fiction with it.
1:17:42
Peter Eggleston Connor: Fiction.
1:17:44
Peter Eggleston Connor: And there's no guarantee.
1:17:46
Tad Eggleston: I don't know.
1:17:46
Peter Eggleston Connor: JVs.
1:17:48
Tad Eggleston: I think it's truth within fiction.
1:17:51
Peter Eggleston Connor: You believe whatever the heck you want to believe.
1:17:56
Tad Eggleston: Alright, so here is my question for the group. We've got 4 options for next month. We've got heavy metal.
1:18:05
Tad Eggleston: 2025 number 2, we've got Metal Ehrlant, 2025, number 2.
1:18:11
Tad Eggleston: we've got August of 1979's… Heavy metal.
1:18:19
Tad Eggleston: Or we could read Alien.
1:18:31
Matt: I'm good with 79, August 79, or Alien?
1:18:36
Tad Eggleston: So you don't want the new stuff.
1:18:38
Matt: No.
1:18:40
Tad Eggleston: No!
1:18:42
Tad Eggleston: Did you not like them, Matt?
1:18:44
Matt: It's not that, I just… I don't have them, and that's… I don't…
1:18:48
Tad Eggleston: Okay.
1:18:50
Dillon Gilbertson: Fair.
1:18:50
Tad Eggleston: I mean, I did share one of them.
1:18:53
Dillon Gilbertson: How long is Aileen?
1:19:05
Tad Eggleston: Alien is… 68 pages.
1:19:11
Dillon Gilbertson: That's not bad.
1:19:12
Tad Eggleston: It'd actually be the shortest option.
1:19:14
Matt: Yeah.
1:19:15
Dillon Gilbertson: We could do both.
1:19:16
Dillon Gilbertson: New Hailing?
1:19:18
Peter Eggleston Connor: both in one sitting, or do Alien one night and the other one another?
1:19:26
Peter Eggleston Connor: Also, we're still on record.
1:19:28
Tad Eggleston: Yeah?
1:19:29
Peter Eggleston Connor: Cool.
1:19:30
Tad Eggleston: We're still recording.
1:19:33
Tad Eggleston: I mean, I think we could pretty easily do… I mean, it'd still be less than any of the new issues if we decided to do…
1:19:42
Dillon Gilbertson: Sweet.
1:19:43
Tad Eggleston: Alien, I mean, particularly because you know we wouldn't actually spend the same amount of time on 68 pages of Alien as we'd spend on 68 pages that had 5 different stories.
1:19:56
Peter Eggleston Connor: So, I don't.
1:19:57
Dillon Gilbertson: We don't.
1:19:57
Peter Eggleston Connor: with that.
1:19:59
Tad Eggleston: Why don't we do both Alien in its entirety, And… August is 79.
1:20:07
Matt: Sounds good to me.
1:20:09
Dillon Gilbertson: Sounds good.
1:20:10
Tad Eggleston: Let's do it.
1:20:13
Tad Eggleston: Do we want to preview our August?
1:20:15
Peter Eggleston Connor: Sure.
1:20:16
Tad Eggleston: We haven't previewed lately. Let's do it.
1:20:19
Matt: Review.
1:20:21
Peter Eggleston Connor: So, when we led August of 78, I downloaded August of 79,
1:20:27
Peter Eggleston Connor: And I've had it downloaded ever since.
1:20:30
Tad Eggleston: Hey, hey.
1:20:31
Peter Eggleston Connor: credit.
1:20:36
Tad Eggleston: So… it's got an interesting cover.
1:20:40
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yup.
1:20:41
Tad Eggleston: Very gold, but then cartoony.
1:20:46
Peter Eggleston Connor: Good morning, huh?
1:20:47
Matt: Hmm.
1:20:53
Tad Eggleston: NBA was in Dracula, the love story.
1:20:56
Tad Eggleston: And Donald Pleasance?
1:20:59
Matt: Looks like…
1:21:02
Tad Eggleston: So we got some… We got more Chantel Montelier.
1:21:12
Tad Eggleston: We got more Mobius.
1:21:17
Tad Eggleston: More of on Bodie.
1:21:21
Tad Eggleston: We've got another Peter Cooper.
1:21:24
Tad Eggleston: We've got a Kazaar.
1:21:28
Tad Eggleston: Got another… another The Bus by Paul Cooper.
1:21:33
Tad Eggleston: Oh, that's interesting. Todd Klein doesn't… illustration.
1:21:38
Tad Eggleston: He's…
1:21:39
Matt: He does an illustratos.
1:21:46
Matt: Sorry.
1:21:48
Tad Eggleston: Somebody illustrated… Sympathy for the devil?
1:21:53
Tad Eggleston: And there's a Jim Starlin.
1:21:58
Matt: Oh, nice!
1:22:00
Tad Eggleston: That's…
1:22:01
Peter Eggleston Connor: geographic.
1:22:03
Tad Eggleston: Val Maverick for Time Out Opus?
1:22:10
Tad Eggleston: Great, trap comes back…
1:22:16
Tad Eggleston: This is kinda cool, freeways?
1:22:20
Matt: Dragon World looks great.
1:22:22
Peter Eggleston Connor: It's a story…
1:22:25
Matt: I might actually read this one.
1:22:27
Peter Eggleston Connor: Works great.
1:22:28
Tad Eggleston: Oh, there's Star Crown.
1:22:29
Peter Eggleston Connor: But we'll see.
1:22:36
Tad Eggleston: We get more… more… more Kirby-esque Mobius.
1:22:48
Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, God.
1:22:49
Tad Eggleston: The glue… the Monsieur Glue Glue?
1:22:51
Dillon Gilbertson: Glue glue.
1:22:54
Tad Eggleston: Glau, glao? I don't know.
1:22:58
Tad Eggleston: Yeah, Dragon World's got cool enough art that it might be worth reading.
1:23:02
Dillon Gilbertson: Oh, yeah.
1:23:04
Tad Eggleston: Peter Cooper's space story looks cool. New Arc City.
1:23:08
Tad Eggleston: Also looks pretty cool.
1:23:11
Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah.
1:23:12
Peter Eggleston Connor: Especially with those monkeys, grabbing that man's liver bud.
1:23:16
Peter Eggleston Connor: We'll get to it.
1:23:27
Dillon Gilbertson: What the hell?
1:23:31
Tad Eggleston: Where's that?
1:23:32
Tad Eggleston: carries?
1:23:40
Tad Eggleston: Sympathy for the devil does actually look pretty cool.
1:23:43
Matt: It does, I was just checking that out.
1:23:52
Tad Eggleston: Yeah… at a glance, it looks like another banger.
1:23:57
Matt: Yup.
1:24:00
Peter Eggleston Connor: A lot of interesting-looking stuff.
1:24:04
Tad Eggleston: So, Matt?
1:24:06
Tad Eggleston: You're the man.
1:24:07
Matt: We'll continue after the next page.