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Do Iconic Cards Rule The Sports Card Hobby? · Sports Card Clubhouse

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In our massive country, there are card collectors throughout
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the land participating in the hobby.
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There's Mike of Junk Wax Hero and Greg of Midlife Cards, and
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while distance may separate them, here is where they come
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together to talk cards. Hey buddy, how are you doing to
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my fellow top three YouTube in New England.
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Oh man. Somebody in comments last week
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said that you saying hey buddy, sounds like Pauly Shore.
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Oh, hey, buddy, Buddy. Yeah.
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It really does. I actually I actually saw Pauly
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Shore once. He almost ran over me with a
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car. Do you want a quick a Side Story
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of? Course.
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So when I was in college, my senior year, I took a semester
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off and did an internship at the Jim Henson Company, which I've
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mentioned a few times on the channel.
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And the Jim Henson Company moved from across the street from the
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Paramount lot to they bought the old Charlie Chaplin studios.
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And so we were packing them up while I was there.
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We were packing everything up for this move and on the lot
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across the street from the Paramount studios, there were
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tons of sound stages. Like there's an Eminem video
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that they recorded. One day I saw Jonathan Winters
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recording a California Eggs commercial, and this car comes
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tearing around the corner super fast in the lot, almost hits me,
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slams on their brakes. And the guy I'm like what a,
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what a you know, And he goes tearing off when I look at his
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freaking Pauly Shore guy almost killed me.
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Killed by Pauly Shore. What an exciting time.
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I almost got killed by Pauly Shore from watching Biodome.
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Yeah. All right.
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So top three New England is sort of the thing right now.
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If you're top three in the New England area at anything, that's
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a big deal, is it not? Yes, unless you're top three
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quarterback for a New England team, because then you're
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basically a nobody if you're not, Drake May.
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But. Wow.
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What do you, I mean, is Buffalo Buffalo's not considered New
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England? I guess, yeah.
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No, they're not I. Don't know how it works OK.
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Wow. I don't know where the cut off
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is. Where's the cut off?
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Maybe? An idol of this idol of this
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episode. Greg doesn't know what New
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England is. I don't what is what is New
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England. Seriously, there's seven states.
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New England. I'm gonna try.
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I'm gonna do my best here. Maine.
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New Hampshire, Vermont. Connecticut.
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Rhode Island, Massachusetts. Delaware.
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How did I do? I don't know, I I, this is, I
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mean, it's sort of like when they talk about the UK like
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Great Britain, right? What's What is Great Britain?
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Right. Britain is the UK is England.
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Oh boy. Wales has to be in.
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There, Wales, Scotland, the UK and Scotland.
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I mean, sorry, Scotland is part of the UK, but is that Great
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Britain too? I don't know.
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I mean, I'm looking it says the UK, commonly known as the United
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Kingdom or Britain, is the country of Northwestern Europe
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off the OK blah blah blah. Get to the point it looks like
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Ireland is involved. Yeah.
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I don't know. I and that's how us out here in
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California feel about New England is I think of it as a
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general area. I don't think of it as as a hard
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border. No, I don't.
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I don't know. So anyways so.
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Because as a reminder, anybody who hasn't been watching or
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hasn't have, has conveniently forgotten, I said a couple
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episodes ago that Matt from Providence is a top three dealer
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in New England. And he took offence to that and
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said that he is the number one dealer in New England.
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And last week I went back and I said, you know what, based on
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your criteria, Matt, you are the number one dealer in New
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England. And he then took victory lap on
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his episode. And remember, they are, they're
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also on this channel. They're probably like a top five
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show on this channel, which, you know, I think that's pretty
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good. It might even be top 4.
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Top four shows. Yeah.
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They, so, you know, I, I, I said great, good job Matt.
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But then this week I received a phone call.
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I received a phone call from Paul Borges, also known as PB
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Collectibles, who is somebody that Matt is dethroning.
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Matt's saying he's #1 Paul Borges #2 So Paul Borges gave me
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a call and said he really appreciates Matt.
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He loves the show. He was very, very nice, very,
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very complimentary of Matt and Jake.
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He talked. He said that they're historians
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and he loves what they do They're better.
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I think he thinks that they're better than us, which is
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amazing. I love hearing that.
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But then he said if you need to tell people you're #1 you're not
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really one. Oh wow.
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Wow. We might need to circle back
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because when I think of Matt from Providence historian is not
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one of the terms that immediately pops into my mind.
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But I I really like Matt from Providence.
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I love Jake and I really like Matt from Providence.
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I'm not really planning on getting in the middle of this,
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this nonsense that you guys have had, you know, launching Scuds
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at each other back and forth, but it is quite entertaining.
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Paul Borges is is a top notch dealer.
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I don't know if I've ever talked to Paul Borges.
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Top top two or three nicest guys in New England?
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Top two or three, I'm number one.
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Top two or three, Yeah, for sure.
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Me. Then Jake, then Paul.
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OK, so Jake is above Paul though.
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Yeah. OK, what about in California?
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Am IA top three person in California?
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What's the preteached person? Yes, you are a top three person
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in California. We're a big state, man.
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We're a big state. All right, let's get into this
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now. I did a video on Monday and you
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texted me afterwards. We did well.
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We're in a couple of little text groups and and you in one of
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those, you said, I want to chime in on this.
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I don't even remember this. Yeah, that's why I wrote it
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down, because then I would remember it.
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Yeah. So I did a video and I I talked
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about what is the importance of rarity in a person's collection.
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And, and my question was about rarity.
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And I had a lot of people respond this week.
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Sometimes there's a lot, sometimes there's a few.
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I probably had a dozen people, at least maybe 15 chime in on
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this topic and I would say 7 or 8 of them completely disregarded
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the rarity thing and they said why are we talking about rarity?
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I care about iconic. And you said I want to weigh in
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on this topic. So weigh in, my friend.
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Well, I was curious. First of all, before I weigh in
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on my position here, were you surprised by people talking more
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about iconic than than about rarity?
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Well, well, here. OK, let me let me put it back to
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you this way. This, this is the analogy I
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would say if you were at with a group of friends and you said,
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hey, guys, what do you think about the Patriots this year?
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And everybody said, the heck with the Patriots.
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What do you guys think about the Red Sox?
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And they all start talking about the Red Sox.
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You go, I thought I was asking about the Patriots, but everyone
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cared so little about that. They were overwhelmingly
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interested in the Red Sox. So to me, that's what happened
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is I was genuinely curious what people thought about I, I think
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people care about iconic cards, but I was curious what people
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thought about rarity. And a bunch of people were
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basically like, why are we talking about this?
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The thing that matters is iconic, which surprised me.
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If anybody ever talks to me about rare cards, I always say
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love that for you. I couldn't care less for my own
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collection. I'm much more interested in
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iconic cards, in cards of iconic players, rookie cards of iconic
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players, autographed cards of iconic players.
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If those happen to be rarer, great.
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But I am the the iconic cards and iconic athletes are much
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more interesting to me. And there are some people who
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only want to have rare cards. They don't care who's on the
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card. They don't care what the grade
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is. If the card is a pop one, that's
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what they want, which is cool. That's very interesting.
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I watch, I enjoy those videos sometimes and if that's what
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they want, that's great. For me though, I want the high
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demand cards. I want when I pull out my
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collection, I want people to know what the cards are that I
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want them to go. Oh man, I wish I had that card.
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I don't care about the population of it.
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I love the 89 Griffey Upper deck card and there are millions of
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those. Love that.
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I love the Jerry Rice. I think in your video you
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mentioned the Jerry Rice rookie card or somebody did a very high
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pop 86 tops, right? Love that card.
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I love cards that you know, I love cards that everybody knows.
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OK, let's just go down that road for just a moment and I'm going
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to put up on the screen. I am in card ladder again, not
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All right, If we look on this PSA, total population of PSA of
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the Kangaroo Junior 89 upper deck 130,508 and 10s 4360 three
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10's and it's surging in price at $4850 is apparently the last
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sale. Now I don't disagree with about
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iconic. I think iconic is important.
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Iconic is something that a lot of people care about because
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part of what we like about cards is we like a nostalgia, we like
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a memory. We like being able to scratch
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the itch of a memory and a want from when we were younger.
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It's why a lot of midlife crisis people get sports cars 'cause
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when they were younger they wanted a sports card but they
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couldn't afford it. I said sports card, but sports
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car and the, the, the thing that is interesting and I wanted to
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dig deeper with you on is iconic is important.
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But in order for the value, if, if that matters to you, if it
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matters to you value, in order for the value to continue to go
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up on an iconic card that is a high population iconic card like
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this, there have to be more people that want it then have
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it. And when there's a card like the
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Kangaroo Junior 89 upper deck, which last sold today or I guess
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it was yesterday, $4850 and A10 on eBay.
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There's a pro steam deal. By the way, it, it makes you, it
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makes me say for that to go up again, then there has to be
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another additional person who wants it, who doesn't have it.
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So what happens if, what am I saying?
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What I, what I think that I'm saying is, is when there's a
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high supply of something, it requires a very high demand for
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something. And so I think that there has
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the possibility of an erosion of demand over time of some of
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these iconic cards. And if that happens, it would be
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an erosion of value. But if the the supply of a card
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is very low and I'm going to pull up another one while you
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respond, it wouldn't. If the supply is very low of a
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card, it doesn't take nearly as many people to want the card for
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the price to continue to climb. So iconic is important and it I
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understand why people like it. And I like iconic cards myself.
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I have a lot of cards that I would consider iconic, but
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they're a little bit more dependent on a large demand,
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which we don't know the future of the demand.
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What do you think? Yeah, I mean, I'd say the same
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thing about low population cards of players nobody's ever heard
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of before. You need to find a buyer who
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wants a card of somebody's nobody's ever heard of before.
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Whereas there are always buyers for a Ken Griffey Junior rookie
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card, although the current moment it's possible that a lot
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of those buyers are repackers, but we'll we'll avoid that
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conversation for today. When there is always a market
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for a card as is there, as there is for Ken Griffey Junior's
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rookie cards, it's much easier to sell it.
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It's much more liquid than like a 19.
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Well, I'm gonna try to find a a an unusual card from an unusual
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set pre war, let's say, for an athlete that nobody's ever heard
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of before. Well, yes, from there there were
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a lot of qualifiers that you threw in there and the last
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qualifier that you threw in there I think was the biggest
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qualifier. The name recognition is a big
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part of the demand. So on on this card that I just
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pulled up on the screen, if you're listening, our good buddy
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Jake just did a video the other day about how he acquired his
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grail card, which is the 1954 Wilson Franks Ted Williams card.
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And if you look on this card in PSA holders, there is a grand
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total of 218 BGS 10, SGC 83. So according to some quick math,
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we're at about 311 total graded by those three major companies
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of this card. Now, just to continue to play
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devil's advocate just for the mere sake of discussion, it
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wouldn't take a very much increase in demand for this
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card. The demand increase could be
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just a little bit and the price would move fairly significantly
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on this card versus the Griffey where there's 100,000 of them
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graded. It would require a bigger jump
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in overall demand for the card to continue to jump, right?
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Absolutely. But we're talking about two
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iconic cards here. Is the Ted Williams Wilson
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Franks an iconic card? It is certainly an iconic card
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for vintage collectors, especially Ted Williams and Red
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Sox collectors. It is an elusive grail type of
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card and I'm sure you saw what Jake paid for it.
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It's a, it's a very, very valuable card.
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You can get a Griffey that and Jake's is low grade.
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You can get a low grade low grade Griffey for 50 bucks.
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I, I don't, I, I think that the Wilson Franks, Ted Williams is
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a, is a fantastic card. I, I, it's one of the most
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beautiful cards that I can think of off the top of my head.
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I'd love to have one. I wouldn't consider it an iconic
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card And and the reason I would say that is because if I asked
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the next 10 people walking into the national, what is this card,
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one or two would know what it was.
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But if I were to ask the next one.
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Yeah, yeah, I totally get what you're saying.
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I agree with you. It's not like I said, if you're
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a vintage collector, then you probably know the Wilson Franks,
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Ted Williams. But outside of like hardcore
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vintage collectors, people don't know that card.
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It's just it's too rare, it's too obscure for somebody who's
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just entering the hobby or or a ultra modern collector or
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somebody who only buys into brakes.
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But for somebody who is a vintage collector, you're going
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to know that card. Yeah, there I was watching a
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YouTube channel. It was, I don't remember what it
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was. It was one of these channels
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where it was a big time channel and the guy was at a card show
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and he was buying and selling at the show.
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And I can't remember for sure who it was, but but the guy came
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up to his buying booth. A guy did and he said I have
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this card. This card's never sold before,
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but it was a a card that any shop would want, any dealer at a
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big show would want because it was a big name guy and it was a
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very short printed card. It might.
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I don't think it was a one O 1, but it was like an out of five
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or out of 10. And this particular guy who was
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flipping it was his thing is to find cards that had never sold
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before because then nobody really knows what it's worth.
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And that is easier to find margin and try to then convince
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the next buyer that it's worth more than they had just paid
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because there's not a record of the sale.
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And I think that that's an interesting kind of strategy or
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an interesting kind of concept of it's like when there's a
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card, there's a card, and I'm not going to say the card
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because I don't know if you're in or out on the card, but
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there's a card that recently came up for auction that I know
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that you're interested in. And, and it very, very rarely
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comes up for sale. And when it does, it's usually
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in a grade that is unattainable. And as a result, that means that
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this card is is a a once in a blue moon, like once in a five
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years sort of opportunity. So it's like, if you're going to
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go for it, now's the time to go for it, which is when you can
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get a bidding war is when it almost never comes up because
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the supply is so low. And again, I don't disagree with
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you about I, I mean people, I'm sure there are people throwing
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stuff at the screen going, this guy doesn't think iconic
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matters. Of course I think it matters.
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I just think it's a fun discussion to talk about that.
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I do think iconic matters, but when a card is very rare that
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can create massive jumps in value.
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Based on slight changes in demand and I think that's part
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of what we've been seeing with some of these more modern cards
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that are low serial numbered or refractors were there aren't a
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lot of them out there. Is the price kind of jumps
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because 01 came out, This is my one chance and then people could
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go nuts for it. And I think it's an interesting
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component within the hobby of that some people dabble in.
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And I understand why people dabble in it, and I understand
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why you don't. But back to what you said, I
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agree that just because a card is rare, if nobody's ever heard
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of the person, if nobody wants that card, they don't like the
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looks of that card. It, you know, there are a lot of
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things that are rare that aren't valuable.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, the, the card that
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you mentioned, the one that's coming up for auction tonight or
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tomorrow, by the time this video airs on Saturday, I will have
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put out, I think I'm going to do a mail day video or I'm going to
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talk a little obliquely about that because I don't want to
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give it away. I probably won't get, I think
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it's going to go for $5000 or more, which is way out of my
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price range. But in the off chance that it
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doesn't, I don't want, I don't want to tip people off.
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But it is like you said, it's very, very rare.
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The last one I think sold well, actually one sold last month, I
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think, but it was the first one in two years.
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And now another one is up and, and there hadn't been before
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2024. There are no records of sales of
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this card on card ladder. So it's, it's very exciting.
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I don't think I'm gonna get it, but I'm, I'm gonna go for it.
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I'm gonna shoot my shot. Yeah, I think you should.
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And I think that I think that that that swimming pool of the
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scarce slash rare slash doesn't come up for auction very often.
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And that's one of the things that happened with the Honus
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Wagner card recently is 2 came up for sale at like the same
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time. And there are times where you'll
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go a year or two and one won't come up for sale.
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And so it creates an interesting like mental process of how to
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handle, if you're an interested buyer, what to do that I think
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is fascinating. OK, The next thing I wanted to
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ask you about South Theo and I recorded the other day and that
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episode is going to air on Friday, which we record this on
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Thursday, but this will air on Saturday just to be as as
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confusing as possible. So as you hear this it it aired
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yesterday and it was about the CIA auction.
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And at the beginning we talked a lot about some cards and what's
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happening in the market and we had about a 15 minute discussion
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about the industry and stuff. And one of the things that came
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up were investment cards and players to invest in.
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And the reason it came up is because he is affiliated with
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Collector Investor Auction, not to be confused with Collector
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Investor Dealer, which if you were Mike going to sell off your
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collection, would you say that that would be a good place to
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go? The best place to go, it would
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be Chris Sewell, Collector, investor, dealer, in that order.
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Chris is not only a friend of us, a sponsor of this channel.
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Friend of us is that good English friend of ours, sponsor
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of this channel. He is, in my opinion, the best
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dealer out there, the most trustworthy, the most honest,
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the one who's gonna give you the not not necessarily the most
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money, but he's going to be reliable.
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He's gonna be trustworthy and he will give you a very fair deal
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and tell you why he's offering what he is instead of people who
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might not want your entire collection.
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Chris will take everything from I, I.
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I can't guarantee that, of course, but Chris is the best.
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You can e-mail him at sewellsportscards@gmail.com if
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you're interested in selling part or all of your collection.
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And again, great guy. Did you see he left a comment on
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our last week's episode? I'm I must have missed that
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'cause I go through all the comments but I only do it once
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or twice a week. I haven't seen it.
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What did he say? He left a comment and he said he
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thought the flexible pricing, the surge pricing idea at PSA
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was a fantastic idea. And he said he would happily be
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a partner in that venture with us.
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But I don't know how we could somehow be involved because it's
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PS as pricing. But I do think if, if PSA needed
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some, you know, like feedback consultants on this, we the
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three of us would make a pretty good team.
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And I would love for Chris to round that out because again,
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he's a great guy. So back to my question that I
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was headed down is we were talking about investing because
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on collector Investor podcast, they were, they listed last week
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their top five players that they would invest in and they did
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like a draft. And Chris, he, he kind of went
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with a little bit of a riskier list and we went with the, and
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then Jeremy went with a little bit of a, a safer risk.
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And I asked Theo, I said, Theo, what would your first pick be if
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you were to pick one player to invest in?
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And who do you think? He said.
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Clemente. Yeah, that.
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Would have been a good one. That's not what he said, what he
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said, Jackie Robinson. OK.
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Do you think that Jackie Robinson is the best answer?
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If you want, are we talking safe investments or are we talking
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risky investments? I mean, it depends on your
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appetite for risk. I think Babe Ruth is a better
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investment. Babe Ruth kind of transcends.
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They're both very, very safe. They're both very, very good.
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I just wonder if we're talking about 30 year investment or five
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year investments because we could be and I'm not predicting
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anything. I'm not saying anything.
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We could be right now at the at the peak because of everything
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that's happening in the market right now, repacks and
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everything and whatnot. The hell that might not be here
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as it is right now in five years, in three years.
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And so you have to wonder, are we at a or near or approaching a
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value peak in the market, especially, especially of iconic
27:02
cards which have skyrocketed in the last three years?
27:05
Somebody who nobody mentioned that I continue to think is
27:14
underappreciated in the hobby is Tiger Woods.
27:19
Because there's this obsession. I know if you're listening, you
27:23
guys should. You should see the face that
27:26
Mike is giving me when I said that.
27:28
I let me hear me out for a second.
27:31
If you go through a lot of the sports, whether they be major
27:36
sports like baseball or whether you go through some of the
27:40
smaller sports in the hobby like soccer, there has been this huge
27:47
jump in appreciation for the Goats.
27:51
It's like Ohtani and Ruth and and those are the guys that have
27:56
gone. What's that?
27:58
Messi. Yeah, Messi and a great example
28:02
Pele stuff has gone way up. I think that the goats Jordan
28:08
stuff has gone insane. But one of the most popular
28:13
sports, and not just in the US, but is a very popular sport and
28:17
watched worldwide is is golf and Tiger is the GOAT.
28:24
And his stuff is still, when you compare it to the other people
28:30
that I mentioned, it's very affordable.
28:33
Is he the go? Versus what?
28:36
Jack Nicholas. Yeah.
28:38
I mean, dude, listen, Jack Nicholas was really good,
28:42
really, really good. But Tiger Woods, Tiger Woods
28:48
changed the game. Like Curry.
28:51
Yep. And he dominated the game like
28:56
Gretzky. He, he, he's as recognizable.
29:03
I mean, if you were to list right now, living human beings,
29:07
most recognizable person on the planet, he's going to be in the
29:10
top 10. Agree.
29:12
I agree with that. I just think that Nicholas was.
29:15
Better I I mean. I think you're comparing LeBron
29:21
Tiger to Michael Jordan. Jack Nicklaus.
29:25
Wow. Really.
29:27
Yeah. Let us know in the comments.
29:29
Is Tiger the GOAT? The thing about Tiger is the the
29:36
the depth of talent when Tiger was playing is much different
29:42
than the depth of talent when Jack Nicklaus was was playing
29:46
and are. You analyzing Nicholas for not
29:49
having good competition. I'm not saying he didn't have
29:52
good competition. I'm not, I'm saying he didn't
29:54
have the depth of competition. I, I mean, I mean, I know and I
30:01
know that people are going to say, well, it's like, you know,
30:03
you Babe Ruth was playing against plumbers and
30:06
electricians. You know, like that whole
30:08
argument, which is just like, come on.
30:11
I, I think that when you are as dominant as Ruth, I don't want
30:16
to get into that. I don't want to even open that
30:17
can of worms right now. We could do that another day.
30:21
I think that Tiger Woods did absolute insane things.
30:27
He was clutch. He was charismatic.
30:31
He was he, he revolutionized the sport.
30:35
He changed the marketing of the entire sport single handedly.
30:41
He is and it's not. And it's not even when you talk
30:45
about the GOAT sometimes it's like is, is it the best player?
30:50
Because like we could get into this.
30:52
I mean like Mantle wasn't the best player of the 50s and 60s
30:58
but he's the. Most popular in the hobby?
30:59
Correct. And I think that Tiger is, is
31:05
arguably maybe one of the only people worth even collecting in
31:12
the hobby, you know? Yeah.
31:15
I mean. I'm with you.
31:17
Justin Thomas and Dustin Johnson and you know exactly Rory
31:23
McIlroy. Those guys were good, but Tiger
31:26
is the guy that you want to collect.
31:28
Scotty Scheffler. Oh my, that guy's that guy.
31:32
You know I he so. I don't follow golf all that
31:37
much, so take this with be a big, big grain of salt, But the
31:41
fact that I know about Scotty Scheffler, I don't.
31:45
I haven't watched golf in 20 years and Scotty Scheffler is
31:48
like holy cow he is insanely good.
31:53
A guy who so guy in the hobby? John Mangini.
31:59
Never heard of him. John Mangini is he sometimes
32:07
looks at things from different angles than other people look at
32:12
them. And he will be attracted to
32:14
things that sometimes people ignore that shouldn't be
32:20
ignored. And and so he's at times he's a
32:24
little ahead of of the curve on, on some of that kind of stuff.
32:30
And I remember about a year or a year and a half ago, he was
32:34
texted in a group I was in and he was like, Scotty Scheffler
32:37
has almost no cards, but he has this Sports Illustrated for Kids
32:42
card that's stupid cheap, at least it was at the time.
32:47
And he was just like, it's like his only like notable card.
32:52
And you can buy it at the time for like, I don't know, 15 or 20
32:56
bucks. And it was like, I don't, I have
32:59
no idea what that card goes for now.
33:01
But he went out and bought it. And then he'll show it, you
33:05
know, And then I don't really think anything of it.
33:07
And it was like he he he sent a picture, I think it was
33:10
yesterday of a very similar thing that he did.
33:15
I was listening to the guys on spitballing cards.
33:20
Is that what they're called? Yeah, what they're called
33:23
spitballing cards. And he was talking about, they
33:26
were talking about how black parallels were kind of not as
33:30
big a deal as they used to be, but they thought that the red
33:33
auto cards were like the thing that was going to replace it.
33:38
And and then I'm, I'm looking and Mangini, I'm not going to
33:45
find it right now, but Mangini sends a picture of a Shohei red
33:51
auto card and I'm like, Dang it, he always does this.
33:55
He has, he's always like figuring it out.
34:01
I'm going to find this. You're not interested.
34:05
The best way to make a Sports Illustrated for Kids card
34:07
valuable is to get it autographed and some.
34:10
There's Scotty Scheffler's rookie SI for kids card is 2017.
34:14
This is first one as far as I know.
34:17
There's one autographed in the PSA population.
34:20
It's currently for sale on eBay right now for $8000.
34:24
Oh, really? Yeah, I'm gonna.
34:27
OK, so the the the ship has sailed, apparently.
34:30
I'm gonna show you this card that Mangini sent, and I'm like,
34:35
I bet it's a huge card. Now the red.
34:38
I'm sorry, there are three of them on eBay.
34:43
They're all listed for at least $6000.
34:47
So here's a show. Hey, Red Auto.
34:51
Does Mangini own that? Yes, I mean, I mean I think
34:56
that's and I remember when he got it like a couple years ago
34:59
and he like texted, oh look, I got this.
35:01
This is a cool. I bet that's a massive card
35:05
right now. I would guess $10,000 at.
35:08
Least Oh my gosh. It's a second year Shohei red
35:14
ink numbered to what was it, 10? 70. 70, I would guess that's 10
35:21
and I'm probably Mangini's probably right now as he's.
35:25
Laughing at us. 25,000. He doesn't even care what it's
35:30
worth 'cause he's not selling it right?
35:32
He doesn't care. Yeah, I know.
35:34
I mean he's the one who has the Magic Johnson 81 tops in a 10
35:40
and after Adam sold his Larry Bird for like 50 grand or
35:44
whatever, he sold it 30. Thousand.
35:45
Yeah. We've been yelling at Mangini.
35:48
You Mangini, you got to sell that magic.
35:50
You got to sell it. And he's like, I don't want to
35:52
sell it. I like it.
35:53
And we're just like, he doesn't sell, which I respect.
35:59
Chris Sewell has the black refractor LeBron rookie that
36:04
shot up to $80,000. He paid 800 for it and shot up
36:08
to $80,000 and it still sits in his box today worth 20 or
36:12
30,000. I can't even imagine.
36:16
I mean, my car's not even worth 20 or 30,000.
36:21
Mine either and I just bought it a year ago.
36:25
Oh man. Well, we've covered a lot.
36:28
I, I will, I will. Spoiler alert if you haven't
36:31
watched that episode of Collector Investor Podcast.
36:35
Chris's fifth pick, his 5th pick, the 10th overall pick was
36:39
Jaden Daniels as best investment.
36:44
That's Chris hopeful. I love how much he loves his,
36:49
his Baltimore teams. You know, he's he's a although I
36:54
guess. So he's a Washington fan and not
36:57
a Ravens fan. Yeah, because it's probably from
36:59
childhood, right? The Ravens weren't there yet.
37:02
Yeah, I think so. Or because I think he explained
37:05
this to me on a video one time. I think there was some when he
37:08
was a kid, he could only see Washington Commanders while
37:13
Washington Redskins games. And I don't, I don't remember
37:17
now, but yeah, it's something to do from his childhood.
37:21
All right. Well, next week you and I at
37:25
this time will be in Strongsville, will be in
37:28
Independence, OH, at the Strongsville card Show and we
37:32
are still, correct me if I'm wrong, we're still going to
37:35
record. We're just going to record it
37:37
early. So this episode next Saturday
37:40
will still air even though there will be all this stuff going on.
37:45
So we're going to record it a day earlier to make sure that it
37:48
still airs on that Saturday, which would be April 10th, which
37:51
is the night of the Four Collectors trade night at the
37:56
Holiday Inn in Independence. OH, so we can maybe talk a
38:01
little bit about our plans and our expectations a little bit
38:05
next week, along with some other stuff.
38:08
But it's not that we're ignoring it.
38:10
When I was on my way home today, I listen to Mike Moynihan
38:14
talking with Chris from Missouri about their targets.
38:19
They kind of did their little preview show thing, which was
38:23
interesting. And Mike Moynihan was sure to
38:25
point out that he said that my, my book was I I wrote it down
38:32
like a a wonderful sleep aid, even though he hasn't actually
38:36
read it. So I was just like, that's cool.
38:39
Yeah, he hadn't read it. He just wanted to grind my
38:43
gears. OK, I I'm looking forward to
38:49
getting my copy of your book. I'm looking forward to you
38:52
reading it. I think you'll like it.
38:54
I do so all right. We're 30, I don't want my money
38:58
back. I'll give you your money back if
39:00
you don't like it, I'll I'll give you double your money back.
39:03
OK, deal. This is a.
39:05
Great investment. Yeah, I mean, what?
39:07
What more could you ask? All right.
39:11
Well, we're 39 minutes in. Is there anything else that you
39:14
want to throw out there to Matt from Providence or Jake or
39:18
anybody that we want to start a war with or anything while
39:22
before we wrap this up? Tony, how about let's start a
39:26
war with Tony and Mike Petty? Oh well, I don't really think
39:31
that would be smart on our half, but I love those guys.
39:36
War we would, surely. Lose.
39:39
We would, yes. I'm looking forward to hanging
39:42
out with those guys next week. Very much looking forward to
39:45
that. I, I, I maybe I'll talk about
39:48
this next week, but I already have at least one.
39:53
No, I already have at least one sprayed purchase in place.
39:59
I have another, I think purchase in place.
40:03
I've already got I think 3 sales.
40:06
Already in before sales already in place, yes.
40:10
So I don't know behind the scenes, man.
40:13
I've been, I've been all Mr. Burns and you know.
40:17
Wow, good for you. I'm I'm working on a deal.
40:19
It would put Take Me Out of the running for the big card.
40:23
But I also think I don't have much of a shot at the big card
40:25
that I talked about and this one is also my grail card.
40:30
So I'm working on it. I don't know if we're going to
40:34
come to an agreement cuz the, the dealer is not being very
40:37
flexible, understandably. I, I totally get it by the way.
40:41
So we'll see. We'll see if I can talk him down
40:44
at Strongsville. Well, this will be great content
40:46
for the Strongsville episodes. Yeah.
40:49
All right, bud. All right.
40:51
See you everybody.