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Two Ts Getting the Tea with JACQUELINE LAURITA · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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Speaker 1: Two Teas in a Pod with Teddy Melancan's and cambradge Edge. Hello, guys,
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Speaker 1: welcome to two Teas in a Pod with myself and Judge.
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Speaker 1: And today we have one of my old friends, Jacqueline
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Speaker 1: from Jersey. Jacqueline was on from two thousand and nine
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Speaker 1: to two thousand and fourteen, and she departed the series
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Speaker 1: in two thousand and fourteen. However, she married appearances throughout
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Speaker 1: the season before returning season seven. Right, she's been all
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Speaker 1: over the press recently because she had a five hour
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Speaker 1: lunch with Teresa sa and so do you know any
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Speaker 1: of them? When we got history, I did some research,
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Speaker 1: so now I do. Okay, God, can we can we
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Speaker 1: like give her an official grilling about what about what
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Speaker 1: went down at the lunch? Well, I want to know
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Speaker 1: about what went down at the lunch. I want to
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Speaker 1: know all about the Melissa stuff because she posted about
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Speaker 1: that on social media. Um, I want to know if
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Speaker 1: she thinks she's responsible for any of the things that
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Speaker 1: went down with the law now she's not responsible. Well
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Speaker 1: that's the whole part of the season. I know. I
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Speaker 1: know if you think she was, that Teresa would be
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Speaker 1: hanging out with her again. Well, she hanged out, She
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Speaker 1: hanged out, hang out, she hanged out with her ex
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Speaker 1: husband after. I used to love Jersey when it was
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Speaker 1: all family back then. Yeah, I love any time it's
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Speaker 1: all family. Um, so you understand Caroline Manzo's brother is
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Speaker 1: Jacqueline's husband husband, right, yeah, okay, okay, I got all that.
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Speaker 1: I got all that juice. I also know that she
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Speaker 1: was the first housewife to not go to her union
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Speaker 1: right and then and then still be on the show.
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Speaker 1: And then Dina, who lives around the corner for me,
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Speaker 1: is her sister in law who Dina was supposed to
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Speaker 1: be in Teresa's wedding. That's what we need to find out.
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Speaker 1: Dina was supposed to be in Teresa's wedding and ended
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Speaker 1: up not being in her wedding. All right, we've got
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Speaker 1: we've got a lot, we've got a lot. But the
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Speaker 1: Tresia has said publicly that there's no issue between her
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Speaker 1: and Dina. Okay, let's bring are in. How are you
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Speaker 1: my friends? Good? Good? So Jacqueline I just got a
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Speaker 1: lot on Instagram because she's moving to the o C.
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Speaker 1: Why hoefully you know are close about this way? How
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Speaker 1: long have you guys been in Vegas now four years
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Speaker 1: what what was it his Chris's job. Yeah, so Chris,
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Speaker 1: Chris's brother. He was out of it. He was always
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Speaker 1: in the garment industry since he was like seventeen years old.
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Speaker 1: He was out of it for a few years. He
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Speaker 1: was trying other adventures or whatever, other ventures. Then he
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Speaker 1: had an opportunity to get back into the garment industry
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Speaker 1: in a big way, and he didn't want to pass
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Speaker 1: the opportunity. Rother lives here in Vegas, who he's partners with,
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Speaker 1: and so he took the job here because he has
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Speaker 1: other partners in California. So he kind of goes between here, California,
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Speaker 1: and New York all the time. So didn't you used
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Speaker 1: to live in Vegas? I did. Used to live in Vegas,
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Speaker 1: and this is why I wanted to come here. So
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Speaker 1: we could have moved to California back then, but because
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Speaker 1: I had My parents are like twenty minutes from me,
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Speaker 1: my other brothers about twenty five minutes from me, my
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Speaker 1: other brothers twenty minutes from me. My cousins are like
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Speaker 1: five minutes from me. I'm like, we're moving to Vegas.
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Speaker 1: Is that gonna be hard? It's gonna be hard. To
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Speaker 1: move out to Vegas since you have so much family,
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Speaker 1: so hard, so hard to leave here because I see
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Speaker 1: my parents, like my family every weekend they're over. Now,
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Speaker 1: do you do you prefer Vegas over New Jersey? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I do. I do. Well, I'm currently in Vegas right now,
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Speaker 1: and I'm curious, what do you Yeah, that's this this
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Speaker 1: background here is at the Lovely Delano Hotel or I
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Speaker 1: haven't been there yet, m But my question is do
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Speaker 1: you think who do you think has better style? Vegas
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Speaker 1: or Jersey? God, that's a hard one because it's very different.
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Speaker 1: You know what, Well, if you're talking about the show,
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Speaker 1: everyone has a bad taste and the well, like New
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Speaker 1: York City, it's it's you know, people are dressing in
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Speaker 1: layers and boots and all the you know, in Vegas,
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Speaker 1: I literally live in like my workout where leggy, Like
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Speaker 1: I'm very much living here. Yeah then you'll fit right
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Speaker 1: but you'll fit right in yeah yeah great, because yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm more like sporty, spice like that's how I like
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Speaker 1: to dress, you know, or like a comfort where then
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Speaker 1: you know, and I don't even think I've worn heels
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Speaker 1: since fourteen quarantine. I don't know. I wore them last night.
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Speaker 1: Now I have fifty two blisters everywhere around. I was
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Speaker 1: like this, this life is not meant for me. Oh
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Speaker 1: my god. If you're moving to OC would you ever
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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people's asses, but would you
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Speaker 1: ever consider going on Orange County even as just like
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Speaker 1: a friend of or in any capacity? And do you
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Speaker 1: think you'd eat those girls alive? Yeah? No, I wouldn't
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Speaker 1: do it, just because I'm at a different stage in
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Speaker 1: my life. And um, I know what the show brings.
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Speaker 1: It's like, you know, it causes problems with like families
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Speaker 1: and friends and businesses, and it just causes a lot
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Speaker 1: of toxicity in your life, a lot of pressures, you know,
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Speaker 1: And um, I'm at a different place in my life.
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Speaker 1: I told Tamra before I said I would, I would
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Speaker 1: go to like a party, be blurred out and have
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Speaker 1: a few shots in the background, and like kind of
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Speaker 1: watch it. You're not You're not gonna be blurred out
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Speaker 1: and you're coming to a party. You'd have to sign
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Speaker 1: the release, get paid. I will send you the release shortly. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Teresa recently said on Watch What Happens Live, But you
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Speaker 1: guys reconnected because you both have kids named Nicholas. I
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Speaker 1: had to laugh at this because I was like, hold on,
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Speaker 1: I don't know that. I'm always like, you know what,
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Speaker 1: this person is going to be my best friend? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know what it is? I think that. Um. So
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Speaker 1: I've always kind of talked on my own page about
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Speaker 1: cast members. When people ask me questions, I'm very open
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Speaker 1: and I'll talk shit like on my own podcast, on
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Speaker 1: my own page or whatever, and I'll say stuff, but
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Speaker 1: not it doesn't always get picked up. But what I
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Speaker 1: said about Melissa I got picked up and kind of
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Speaker 1: what is the name of your podcast so people know?
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Speaker 1: I know, I don't have any I stopped doing it
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Speaker 1: during quarantine because it was just too hard with Nicholas
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Speaker 1: home that I couldn't do it. It was just it'd
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Speaker 1: be too many interruptions and just our listeners. Know. What
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Speaker 1: Jacqueline said about Melissa was that she was a liar
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Speaker 1: and manipulative and looking back, she would have handled things
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Speaker 1: different So what would you have handled differently? Me? Yeah, well,
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Speaker 1: I just overall I would have handled things differently, I think, um,
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Speaker 1: I allowed And this is one thing when I said
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Speaker 1: about Melissa, I mean, obviously Teresa and I had her
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Speaker 1: own ship that was going on, but Melissa was in
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Speaker 1: my head a lot, telling me a lot of things
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Speaker 1: that Teresa would say and do. I felt sorry for
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Speaker 1: them because they really played the victim card really well
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Speaker 1: with you know, how Teresa treated them, and then you know,
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Speaker 1: with Teresa being mad. I would see like different things
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Speaker 1: and it just kind of turned me off. But Melissa
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Speaker 1: really flipped on me really bad. She was behind the
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Speaker 1: scenes feeding me all kinds of information about Teresa, her
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Speaker 1: legal stuff, like literally everything. They were never friends on camera.
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Speaker 1: It was always just for show, for the show, and yeah,
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Speaker 1: off camera, they weren't friends. I respected that they were
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Speaker 1: trying to keep the piece on camera. That wasn't the issue,
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Speaker 1: Like I always respected that, and I even told her
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Speaker 1: to fake it till you make it on camera. But
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Speaker 1: she turned on me like it was really bizarre. So
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Speaker 1: the producers were pushing me to be friendly with Teresa again,
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Speaker 1: and they were really trying to push that reunion, and
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Speaker 1: Melissa just kept reminding me how much Teresa hated me.
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Speaker 1: Things she would say blah blah blah. So I knew
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Speaker 1: it wasn't like it wasn't sincere with Teresa, So I
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, hey, listen. There's just so much
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Speaker 1: the story I can't even tell you guys all, But
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Speaker 1: so what came down to you? Like stay right before
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Speaker 1: we went to vermind Melissa, I was on a shooting
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Speaker 1: thing with Teresa, Joe Dolores and her new date. It
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Speaker 1: never aired, but we all filmed a dinner together. Melissa
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Speaker 1: kept calling me, calling me, call me. I want to
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Speaker 1: know because I always told her what we filmed. I'm
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Speaker 1: always like one of those cast members who give my
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Speaker 1: cast members a heads up, like what we like, Well,
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Speaker 1: your part, not everybody on the cast, just certain people,
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Speaker 1: certain people. Yeah, so you know, um, she wanted to know,
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Speaker 1: like what we filmed, but we had stopped filming. We
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Speaker 1: stayed out late that night and we just had the
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Speaker 1: best time like belly laughs, like it was it felt
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Speaker 1: sincere and real with Theresa that night, And I'm like, no,
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Speaker 1: we actually got along. So when I told Melissa that,
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Speaker 1: I said, you know, she kept saying like, well, would
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Speaker 1: you guys film you know what happened? I'm like, it
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Speaker 1: went great. I go. We stayed long after filming. We
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Speaker 1: were laughing our asses off, we had a great time.
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Speaker 1: She's like, really, you know, she got like all like
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Speaker 1: weird about it, and she didn't want you to be friends.
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Speaker 1: She went and he did not want me to make
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Speaker 1: up with traits she was, so she acted all jealous
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Speaker 1: and then was like she remember she hates you, Jacqueline,
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, I she probably does, but you
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Speaker 1: know what, I'd rather have her fake in on camera
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Speaker 1: and us get along and have good filming than me
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Speaker 1: fighting with her, So I don't really care. And then
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Speaker 1: literally right after that, when we went to Vermont, Lisa's
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Speaker 1: whole tone changed with me. And even when that one
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Speaker 1: girl came after me on the show, um, I had like,
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Speaker 1: you know, she was saying she wanted to rage on
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Speaker 1: my ass. I gave her my ass to see what
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Speaker 1: she would do with it. I was telling Melissa about
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Speaker 1: I was telling Melissa about it, and she was like
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Speaker 1: looking at me on camera like, oh my god, like
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Speaker 1: why would you do that? And then and then and
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Speaker 1: normally she would back me up and be like, I've
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Speaker 1: had people do that to me on the show. Oh
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Speaker 1: we all. Yeah, it's hard when it's your actual clothes. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you believe they are. They asked you to say something
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Speaker 1: or bring something up, and then when you bring it up,
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Speaker 1: they're like, oh my god, I had no idea. Yes,
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Speaker 1: that's the worst, and that is the worst. This is
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Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, but this is my question because
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Speaker 1: now even bringing it flashing forward to what's going on
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Speaker 1: this season, watching it, I saw times wonder because there
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Speaker 1: was that scene between the new girl, Danielle talking about
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Speaker 1: how she blames her flawed relationship with her brother due
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Speaker 1: to his wife. Do you really think that the main
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Speaker 1: issues involving Joe and Teresa and Melissa stem from Melissa
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Speaker 1: and Teresa or do you think it's Joe. I think
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Speaker 1: it's both of them. But if you know what what, well,
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Speaker 1: I do think Melissa pulls a lot. Yeah, it puts
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Speaker 1: a lot in his head for sure, because they used
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Speaker 1: to be very, very close. But Joe, to be honest,
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Speaker 1: Joe and Melissa both talk shit about Teresa to us
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Speaker 1: and fed us information about Teresa. But Joe was just
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Speaker 1: as much in that as Melissa. But Melissa, I think
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Speaker 1: was I think where her anger came from was that,
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Speaker 1: you know, she always wanted to be famous, and Teresa
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Speaker 1: was on the show that was really popular, and Teresa
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Speaker 1: wasn't including them in the you know, the filming of
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Speaker 1: the show, and they were kind of insulted by that,
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Speaker 1: like where your family? Weren't you bringing us around? Why
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Speaker 1: aren't you bringing up Can you clear it up for us?
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Speaker 1: How did Melissa get on the show? And did Theresa
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Speaker 1: know she was coming on the show? Okay, so this
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Speaker 1: is what happened with the show. This is like now
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Speaker 1: that I know more from talking to Carlos and so
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Speaker 1: now I know the whole story. So basically I didn't
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Speaker 1: know this, but Melissa had been damning the producers trying
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Speaker 1: to get on the show. She went behind their back.
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Speaker 1: She was dmning the producer and he told me she
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Speaker 1: was trying to get on the show. She was also
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Speaker 1: dming the whole season two. I think it was she
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Speaker 1: was messaging Danielle's stab, telling Danielle's song. Remember at the
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Speaker 1: reunion when she said you didn't go to your son's
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Speaker 1: you didn't go see your nephew when he was born
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Speaker 1: or whatever that came from Melissa. So Melissa was feeding.
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Speaker 1: And Melissa ended up telling me later on that she
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Speaker 1: did talk to Danielle and she goes and she wanted
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Speaker 1: me to film with her, but I wouldn't film with
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Speaker 1: her because I was pregnant at the time and I
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Speaker 1: didn't want my debut to be me pregnant coming on
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Speaker 1: the show, you know, like that. She tried, so she didn't.
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Speaker 1: She tried and tried and tried. He was trying through Danielle,
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Speaker 1: the producers, everyone to get on the show. But also
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Speaker 1: whenever we would film, so Melissa was in like Teresa's
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Speaker 1: housewarming party on camera. Um, she was at her daughter's christening,
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Speaker 1: she was at a couple other things that she was
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Speaker 1: always there in the background. But we would be Mike
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Speaker 1: and Teresa would say, don't talk to Melissa on camera
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Speaker 1: because she just wants her face on camera, like, don't
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Speaker 1: film with her, like, don't talk. But so that's why
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Speaker 1: I have an issue because it's obvious. Then they both
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Speaker 1: talk shit about each other. They're both they're both talking
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Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, because Melissa was trying to get on
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Speaker 1: the show. Teresa didn't want her on the show because
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Speaker 1: she saw what it did to our family. So she
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Speaker 1: didn't want her family. And well that's what she used
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Speaker 1: to say. She used to say that she didn't want
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Speaker 1: on the show because then it's competitive against your own
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Speaker 1: personal family. I mean, get it, I get it. I
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Speaker 1: would never ever, I I never want my family on
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Speaker 1: the show, mainly because she knows all my shit right,
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Speaker 1: and you never know, and though siblins can turn on you,
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Speaker 1: that's true. But she at the time she acted like,
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Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to go on camera and
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Speaker 1: start fighting with my family, you know, because they were
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Speaker 1: you know, on and off. Well she came back at
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Speaker 1: the beginning. You guys were all family. I feel like
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Speaker 1: you guys were all related somehow, and all it was
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Speaker 1: it was just family fighting. It was family fighting. Well
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Speaker 1: she she would say this way, she was Mike right.
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Speaker 1: So the producers are like, who's Melissa? Where is she?
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Speaker 1: Who's the girl you don't want on camera? And then
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Speaker 1: they saw them fighting on Facebook over sprinkle cookies or
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Speaker 1: whatever the hell it was. Plus she was damming them
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Speaker 1: and trying to get on through Danielle and whatever, and
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Speaker 1: then that's how they ended up getting her on. She
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Speaker 1: worked her magic and she got on. She got She's like,
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Speaker 1: I don't bring me out, I'm getting on myself. So
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Speaker 1: Teresa didn't even want to film and she knew, okay,
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Speaker 1: so she found out a week before that they were
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Speaker 1: filmed that they were coming on the show. So it
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Speaker 1: was a night before the christening Teresa hadn't signed her
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Speaker 1: contract yet, and she's like, I'm not signing this contract.
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to film with them. I'm not I'm
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Speaker 1: not going to do it. I said, Teresa, you're gonna
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Speaker 1: go to the christing tomorrow with them, Mike, with a
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Speaker 1: camera crew all around them on your show that you started,
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Speaker 1: and you put on the map, and you're gonna let
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Speaker 1: them take over your show and you're just gonna watch
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Speaker 1: like you're not going to be part of the show.
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Speaker 1: And then one of the producers called her Carlos and
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Speaker 1: then talked her into doing the show. And then she
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Speaker 1: went the next day. In her head, she was just
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Speaker 1: going to go there and not bring the fighting on camera.
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Speaker 1: She was just going to pretend like everything was fine.
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Speaker 1: But wasn't that the big fight they fight? Right? So
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Speaker 1: basically they have never gotten along. This is not new.
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Speaker 1: They did not get along a priar to the they
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Speaker 1: did have they got along, but because they were still
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Speaker 1: invited to all her family things and stuff like that,
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Speaker 1: they would still you know, they were at all the
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Speaker 1: family functioned on a brave face, but the second you
16:02
Speaker 1: involve money and fame into it, it's a fair right, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think she didn't want to, you know. And and
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Speaker 1: then so when she was trying to pretend like everything
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Speaker 1: was good, they called her out on camera like, oh,
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Speaker 1: now you're acting like things are fine, you know, because
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Speaker 1: we're on. You know. But if they came on with
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Speaker 1: the intentions not to take down Theresa, they would have
16:20
Speaker 1: played along with that and acted like everything was fine
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Speaker 1: on camera, but instead they called her out, So now
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Speaker 1: are you? Teresa also didn't want them on, So they're
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Speaker 1: both doing the like are you and Teresa good? Now?
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Speaker 1: Are you talking even in touch? We are actually and
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Speaker 1: it and it really doesn't have to. When we sat down,
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Speaker 1: I know everyone thinks we sat there and talked about Melissa.
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Speaker 1: I kind of brought it up a little bit. She
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Speaker 1: we didn't talk about it. She just said I'm done
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Speaker 1: with them. She's like, I'm not engaging in them anymore.
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to get into it with them anymore.
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Speaker 1: I am done with them. And that's it. I know
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Speaker 1: who called involved? She call you or you call her?
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Speaker 1: They called me and you so do you see her
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Speaker 1: name on your phone? And you're like, what the what
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Speaker 1: do you do? You do you panic? Do you like?
17:13
Speaker 1: It was a text message and it was like, Hi,
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Speaker 1: Louie and I are going to be in town on February,
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Speaker 1: you know this date through this date, and do you
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Speaker 1: want to meet for coffee if you want to bring Chris,
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Speaker 1: Louie's gonna be there, and and I was just like
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Speaker 1: what I was like what I was like, last do
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Speaker 1: you talk to her? Or the last I was saying
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Speaker 1: is she said you were responsible for her going to jail. Yeah,
17:39
Speaker 1: so it's like, did you guys talk about that? We
17:42
Speaker 1: did not talk about any Like literally I showed my husband.
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Speaker 1: My husband's like, I think you should meet with her.
17:48
Speaker 1: You know, it's been a long time. I think he
17:49
Speaker 1: should sit down with her and whatever. So we agreed
17:51
Speaker 1: to meet with him. She didn't want to talk about
17:53
Speaker 1: anything from the past. Like I kind of tried to
17:55
Speaker 1: like discuss some of it. I was like kind of
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Speaker 1: you know, and she was just like, I don't care
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Speaker 1: about any of that. Like it was at a time
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Speaker 1: where you know, we both kind of agreed. It was
18:04
Speaker 1: at a time where we were both very stressed in
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Speaker 1: our life. We had a lot of pressures from filming.
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Speaker 1: You've got producers in your air people and your air
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Speaker 1: fans saying this to that and there's so much toxicity
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Speaker 1: around it. You don't know who to trust. You can't
18:16
Speaker 1: maintain a friendship on a show like that. It's very
18:19
Speaker 1: very differendships, very difficult. Yeah. So so now that I'm
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Speaker 1: away from it and I have no involvement in it,
18:27
Speaker 1: it's easier to maintain a friendship after that, because we
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Speaker 1: were friends for seven years before the show we even started,
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Speaker 1: you know, and now you guys, she had said that.
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Speaker 1: So we didn't talk about Melissa. We did not talk
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Speaker 1: about her, like, didn't we talk Did you talk about
18:41
Speaker 1: the fact that you potentially have PTSD from Porsche fashion shows?
18:46
Speaker 1: The podcasts? No? Oh my god, those were so crazy.
18:53
Speaker 1: I take it you haven't been to a posh fashion
18:55
Speaker 1: show in yours. I haven't in a lot of time.
18:58
Speaker 1: I keep in touching Kim D and I we'll talk
19:00
Speaker 1: like every six months or so, we'll like check in
19:04
Speaker 1: how you're doing, you know. But what were your thoughts
19:07
Speaker 1: on Louis? Oh? Yeah, I okay. So I had heard
19:11
Speaker 1: things about him before, and hold on before like from
19:14
Speaker 1: the show or before from people in Jersey, from people
19:17
Speaker 1: in Jersey telling me back because I wouldn't watch the show,
19:20
Speaker 1: like since when I left the show. I didn't watch
19:22
Speaker 1: the seasons. I would watch the reunions to kind of
19:24
Speaker 1: get a feel for what happened during the season. Or
19:26
Speaker 1: if someone said, oh, you need to watch this episode
19:28
Speaker 1: because this happened, I would watch that. But I didn't
19:31
Speaker 1: really watch the show this season. I'm watching it. I'm
19:33
Speaker 1: watching this season because there's new people. It's just I
19:37
Speaker 1: want to see, like plus with everything that happened, I
19:40
Speaker 1: want to see it. So well, what did you think
19:42
Speaker 1: about him in person? I loved him. I'm not even kidding.
19:46
Speaker 1: I was shocked. I didn't know how I was going
19:49
Speaker 1: to feel about him because of whatever. But I'm the
19:51
Speaker 1: type of person I will never judge someone until I
19:54
Speaker 1: meet them myself. Stuff I listen, but I won't judge
19:57
Speaker 1: someone until I met them myself and get a feeling
19:59
Speaker 1: for them. I mean, you know, it's the first meeting.
20:01
Speaker 1: What do you know? You know? He was so nice? Positive? Positive? Right,
20:05
Speaker 1: he was very positive. He was very like Teresa's been
20:08
Speaker 1: wanting to reach out to you for months, Like she
20:10
Speaker 1: she talks about it all the time, like um, when
20:14
Speaker 1: she says we have two Nicholases, what she means is
20:16
Speaker 1: his son has autism. And his name is Nicholas, right,
20:19
Speaker 1: and my son has autism in his name is Nicholas
20:21
Speaker 1: because he's good. Hold thirteen. You were pregnant on the show, right, Yeah? Wow,
20:33
Speaker 1: I was pregnant. I got pregnant during the off season
20:35
Speaker 1: of it. And I'm not mistaken. Didn't you have struggles
20:38
Speaker 1: getting pregnant? Yeah? I had trouble getting pregnant. We didn't
20:42
Speaker 1: do everyone thought we did IBF. I did go see
20:44
Speaker 1: a doctor, fertility doctor. But coming back to me, I
20:49
Speaker 1: remember this, yeah, yeah, yeah, so um yeah, So she
20:54
Speaker 1: related to me now that she has his son, you know,
20:59
Speaker 1: she it made her think about me all the time
21:01
Speaker 1: because I would imagine so she would constantly like think
21:06
Speaker 1: of that and kind of what I had to go
21:08
Speaker 1: through and what she's kind of, you know, similar things
21:11
Speaker 1: that they're similar in ways, and so that made her
21:14
Speaker 1: think of me. And then when she saw I spoke
21:16
Speaker 1: out about Melissa, she was like she knew she was
21:18
Speaker 1: coming to Vegas. She didn't come to Vegas just to
21:20
Speaker 1: see me. She was coming out here to see Bruno
21:22
Speaker 1: Mars with Heidie Demilio and her husband, and that they
21:26
Speaker 1: were gonna go see Bruno Mars. So she's coming to Vegas.
21:29
Speaker 1: She's like, maybe she'll respond to me if I reached out,
21:32
Speaker 1: because you know, it made it put me on her
21:34
Speaker 1: mind seeing all this stuff in the press about me
21:37
Speaker 1: and Terisa. I just reminded me, hold on, we need
21:40
Speaker 1: to know really quick. Why was Dina not in the wedding.
21:51
Speaker 1: She didn't want to be on camera. She didn't want
21:53
Speaker 1: to film. They're totally fine, they're totally friends. Everything's fine.
21:56
Speaker 1: She doesn't want to go. Why haven't seen them in
21:58
Speaker 1: any pictures recently? They were and non stop pictures together.
22:02
Speaker 1: They go on they go on vacation together. They vacationed
22:05
Speaker 1: a few things together. Because she lives in Califora's around
22:07
Speaker 1: the corner for me. Yeah, and Teresa lives in New Jersey.
22:11
Speaker 1: So when they get together, when she goes to California,
22:14
Speaker 1: they get together, and then you know they they vacationed
22:17
Speaker 1: a couple of times together. But they But you think
22:19
Speaker 1: we're going to see every part of the wedding, Like
22:21
Speaker 1: you can still go to a wedding and not be
22:23
Speaker 1: like I've said, I won't film something. They didn't want
22:25
Speaker 1: to be around the cast because she doesn't care for Dolores.
22:28
Speaker 1: I don't think I got a question on my Instagram
22:33
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure what it's about. How do you
22:35
Speaker 1: feel about what Ashley said after you met up with Teresa?
22:39
Speaker 1: What did Ashley say? Congrats? Oh that's it. Yeah, I
22:44
Speaker 1: thought it was a smoking gun there. Well, because Ashley
22:48
Speaker 1: Ashley was like to me, she was like, you guys
22:51
Speaker 1: have been through a lot of shit, and she's like,
22:53
Speaker 1: if you guys made up, She's like, just you know,
22:56
Speaker 1: be careful. So now that you've made up with Teresa,
22:59
Speaker 1: but she's like, good for you. Now that you've made
23:01
Speaker 1: up with Teresa. Do you think that you and Dina
23:04
Speaker 1: will make up or there's hope. I've I've always been
23:07
Speaker 1: open to that and we've the last few times we've talked,
23:12
Speaker 1: it's because of like something bad had happened in the
23:14
Speaker 1: family or whatever. Um, it was very civil, and my
23:19
Speaker 1: husband's been to California a few times, has dinner with her,
23:21
Speaker 1: he stated, at her house. One time, she's come out
23:23
Speaker 1: here for an event I couldn't go. I was actually
23:26
Speaker 1: invited to the event. I couldn't go because I didn't
23:28
Speaker 1: have a sitter for next But it's cordial and if
23:32
Speaker 1: I saw her, it would be cordial. We used to
23:35
Speaker 1: be super close, and I don't know if we could
23:37
Speaker 1: get back to that place because you know, I'm I'm
23:40
Speaker 1: people that I've had a history with, that I've been
23:43
Speaker 1: close with. I'm always open to to, you know, hearing
23:47
Speaker 1: people out and being fine because it got ugly, you
23:49
Speaker 1: know after a while, and she's family to me. She
23:53
Speaker 1: was like a little sister to me, you know. And well,
23:56
Speaker 1: speaking of getting ugly, um, did you know one one
23:59
Speaker 1: was last time you spoke to Danielle's stab? And two
24:03
Speaker 1: when did you ever see the emails? Wait? Which oh,
24:08
Speaker 1: between Melissa and Danielle. No, she wouldn't tell me. She
24:12
Speaker 1: wouldn't show me. I asked her to show me. She
24:13
Speaker 1: wouldn't show me. Melissa, she was just like, I don't
24:18
Speaker 1: want you know, but Danielle. I last place I saw
24:22
Speaker 1: and talked to Danielle was that season two reunion when
24:25
Speaker 1: she hugged me. Okay. Then I had gone to do
24:28
Speaker 1: press and someone at the press outlet said, you know,
24:31
Speaker 1: Danielle's trying to put out stories about you. She's trying
24:33
Speaker 1: to sell the story about you. And I'm like, what
24:36
Speaker 1: I thought, Like we squashed things and why is she
24:38
Speaker 1: doing that? Then this one girl turned on her on
24:42
Speaker 1: Instagram or Twitter or whatever it was at the time,
24:44
Speaker 1: I don't remember, and started sending me all the private
24:47
Speaker 1: dms where she was telling this girl to attack me
24:50
Speaker 1: on social media, that she was putting an article out
24:52
Speaker 1: about me, laughing about it, and then she was telling
24:55
Speaker 1: lies to this person about my daughter that weren't even true.
24:58
Speaker 1: And then I was like, this is a danger a
25:00
Speaker 1: person because she's putting out all these lies and spreading
25:02
Speaker 1: them like they're truth and they're not truth. And it
25:06
Speaker 1: was to me that, to me, is a dangerous person,
25:08
Speaker 1: and that's someone I would never wint in my life. Like, So,
25:11
Speaker 1: if you had to have lunch with one person, would
25:13
Speaker 1: you choose Danielle stob or Melissa Gorga neither? This is
25:18
Speaker 1: like a it's pick or die. Oh, pick or die?
25:21
Speaker 1: Oh next, it's the worst one, maybe, Okay? If I
25:26
Speaker 1: have to pick, yeah, and I really don't want either
25:29
Speaker 1: of them, Melissa, then I slapper don't But Danielle would.
25:34
Speaker 1: I feel like Danielle is like she's toxic, Like her
25:39
Speaker 1: tiktoks or whatever they are make me feel, I don't
25:42
Speaker 1: see them. But she's a dangerous person because she makes
25:46
Speaker 1: up lies about people and then spread something like they're
25:48
Speaker 1: true and then it gets picked up and it's getting
25:51
Speaker 1: gets wings and they're not true. And that's, to me,
25:54
Speaker 1: is a dangerous person. I get it. If you're fighting
25:56
Speaker 1: with me and you want to come at me and
25:57
Speaker 1: say something to hurt me, the do it. You know,
26:01
Speaker 1: I'll come back at you whatever, But don't make up
26:03
Speaker 1: stuff like I don't fight. Like who do you talk
26:08
Speaker 1: to and Jersey? Now? Who on the current in Jersey?
26:13
Speaker 1: Once in a great while? The loris Um, Kathy Achiely
26:20
Speaker 1: kim d Caroline. What do you think about Melissa saying
26:25
Speaker 1: that Caroline was too old and boring to come back
26:28
Speaker 1: to Jersey? Wait? Melissa always he used to always say
26:33
Speaker 1: that she wasn't boring an ultimate girl's trips all over
26:36
Speaker 1: the process? Right? Have you talked to her about that
26:39
Speaker 1: at all? I did talk to her. She didn't tell
26:43
Speaker 1: me that much because it had just happened and it
26:45
Speaker 1: was really traumatic for her. Whatever happened was very traumatic.
26:48
Speaker 1: Were you there? No? Oh? Thank god? I forget who
26:53
Speaker 1: was on there? She said, it was just very traumatic.
26:56
Speaker 1: She's trying to process it all. She can't talk about
26:59
Speaker 1: it right now because it was under you know, investigation
27:01
Speaker 1: or whatever was happening, and it was just nothing she
27:04
Speaker 1: could ever imagine, and it was bad, and I just
27:07
Speaker 1: kind of let it go. At that point, I didn't
27:09
Speaker 1: dig anymore because I could tell it was bothering her,
27:12
Speaker 1: so I didn't even I'm just waiting. So here's the thing.
27:18
Speaker 1: I always said, like, could I handle a week away
27:21
Speaker 1: on a girl's trip. I could handle the drama for
27:23
Speaker 1: a week or whatever. But I could never do it
27:26
Speaker 1: because I don't have someone like that that can watch
27:29
Speaker 1: Nicholas for a full week for me to do something
27:31
Speaker 1: like that. I don't have Like Nicholas escapes, he's he's
27:35
Speaker 1: too big for my mom um CJ. I don't know
27:38
Speaker 1: if he would feed him correctly, what would happen? No,
27:42
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if you could handle
27:43
Speaker 1: him for a week. And my husband works, so you know,
27:46
Speaker 1: my husband could watch him in the evenings. But as
27:48
Speaker 1: of right now, I don't have someone that could watch
27:50
Speaker 1: Nicholas for me to go on the girls. It would
27:52
Speaker 1: be more stress added to your family life, for sure. Yeah.
27:56
Speaker 1: So how's how's Ashley? Um? She's good, good, she's good,
28:01
Speaker 1: she's um. You know, she found out you know she
28:04
Speaker 1: got diagnosed with them bipolar. I didn't know that she's
28:08
Speaker 1: been dealing. Yeah, so she's been dealing a lot with that,
28:10
Speaker 1: which explains like a lot of things you know, she
28:14
Speaker 1: was feeling and going through. She okay, yeah, yeah, now
28:18
Speaker 1: she's you know, she's she's very open about it. She
28:21
Speaker 1: talks about it on our social media, like her kind
28:23
Speaker 1: of steps in, you know, helping herself, and she's doing good.
28:28
Speaker 1: She's a great mommy to her son, Cameron, my grandson,
28:32
Speaker 1: and he calls me Glamor, kisses Glamor, he calls me kids. Yeah.
28:37
Speaker 1: Speaking of resources, I got a message asking from a
28:40
Speaker 1: fan best resource for parents with children diagnosed with autism?
28:44
Speaker 1: Is there any advice that you can guess resource you
28:47
Speaker 1: know who gives a lot of great resources as Taka
28:50
Speaker 1: Taca on it if you go on their website. They
28:54
Speaker 1: she's very detailed and has tons of resources on her
28:58
Speaker 1: on her website and like leads parents through beginning to
29:01
Speaker 1: the end, and she's really good with us. I would
29:04
Speaker 1: look on yeah, I would look on there for the start.
29:07
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many but okay, we've got to
29:10
Speaker 1: do three final rapid fire questions to close us out.
29:14
Speaker 1: First one, is there hope for Melissa and Teresa? And
29:19
Speaker 1: do you think the show needs both? I don't think
29:24
Speaker 1: the show needs both, And I don't think there's hope
29:26
Speaker 1: because there's so much damage that's been done in a
29:28
Speaker 1: lot of trust. It would have to be like years
29:32
Speaker 1: after both of them are off the show and maybe
29:35
Speaker 1: find their way back to each other. But as long
29:36
Speaker 1: as they're both on the show together, they're never gonna
29:39
Speaker 1: be like fully d I think if one of them
29:41
Speaker 1: does get let go, it's and I's gonna be worse
29:44
Speaker 1: between the two of them. Yeah, I agree, I worked
29:46
Speaker 1: them both on the well Teresa and Louie last um,
29:52
Speaker 1: I mean it any relationship she's pausing and at any
29:57
Speaker 1: time no, but because I'm like if I'm asking honestly,
30:00
Speaker 1: looking at them right now, I don't see them ever,
30:02
Speaker 1: they're so in love, Like you can see it the
30:04
Speaker 1: way he looks at her, he laughs and everything she said,
30:07
Speaker 1: like you could tell he's so in love and she's
30:09
Speaker 1: so madly in love with him. I could never see
30:11
Speaker 1: it now, But I mean I was like that with
30:13
Speaker 1: my first husband and we ended up to right. You
30:16
Speaker 1: never know. So I have a quick question for you,
30:18
Speaker 1: what do you think about the two Joe's meeting up
30:21
Speaker 1: in the Bahamas? Oh, well, Teresa knew about it ahead
30:25
Speaker 1: of time because she knew about because there was a
30:29
Speaker 1: friend of hers on the same plane as Joe and
30:33
Speaker 1: Melissa going to the Bahamas. And so Teresa was like,
30:37
Speaker 1: if you see them, you need to be nice to
30:39
Speaker 1: him because I don't want there to be a problem
30:42
Speaker 1: with you guys and there to be a fight because
30:44
Speaker 1: if they you know, if Joe gets into trouble, it's
30:47
Speaker 1: like not good. So she's like, if you see them,
30:49
Speaker 1: just be nice with that. Videos that videos set up
30:52
Speaker 1: staged it. Well, Joe, I think Joe thinks it was.
30:55
Speaker 1: I mean they literally were together three minutes. Well, I
30:58
Speaker 1: saw that Joe, uh Gorga posted the video, but the
31:03
Speaker 1: other two did not post it right because it was
31:07
Speaker 1: literally three minutes long as clearly. Yeah, I mean it
31:11
Speaker 1: was just like corny. Do you think it was a
31:13
Speaker 1: kind of a stick it to Melissa, I'm sorry, a
31:16
Speaker 1: stick it to Teresa video. Oh, I'm sure of course.
31:19
Speaker 1: It was like a tip for tat Yeah. And then
31:22
Speaker 1: final question just because this was they're also wait, they're
31:26
Speaker 1: also trying to get a hold of Kim D to
31:28
Speaker 1: make up with Kim D. They're like, we like Kim D.
31:31
Speaker 1: Like yeah, um, how do you think, Like what is
31:36
Speaker 1: the trick to keeping your marriage last through all these
31:39
Speaker 1: years of drama and craziness? A sense of humor? I
31:44
Speaker 1: love that. It's a sense of humor. When you say
31:47
Speaker 1: a sense of humor and sex, yeah, you know what,
31:52
Speaker 1: that's pretty much true sense of humor because you can
31:59
Speaker 1: when they're like your best friend and you can go
32:01
Speaker 1: through like you can have a shitty day and be
32:03
Speaker 1: mad or whatever. But then like if they like, when
32:06
Speaker 1: I get in a mood, it's hard to get me
32:08
Speaker 1: out of it, and he knows how to pull me
32:10
Speaker 1: out of that mood by you know, making a joke
32:13
Speaker 1: or whatever. Like he knows me, and he gets me,
32:16
Speaker 1: and I get him, and I know like when we
32:18
Speaker 1: both need to be like you know yeah, And it's
32:21
Speaker 1: really a sense of humor. I think we have a
32:23
Speaker 1: good sense of humor with each other. And I think
32:24
Speaker 1: that really God helps. We talked a lot about the show,
32:27
Speaker 1: but personally, like what's going on in your life right now?
32:30
Speaker 1: Like what's your day to day? My day to day
32:33
Speaker 1: now is homeschooling. Nicholas I had to pull him from
32:37
Speaker 1: the school system here he was having a lot of
32:40
Speaker 1: anxiety and everything. So now I homeschool him. I mean,
32:44
Speaker 1: since the show, I got some certifications. I went to
32:48
Speaker 1: I got a certified as a health coach to the
32:50
Speaker 1: Institute of Integrated Nutrition. I went to the Integrated Medicine
32:55
Speaker 1: Academy online for Autism Master three, Functional Medicine, Toxicity, and Hormones.
33:03
Speaker 1: And I was using that to like help other families.
33:06
Speaker 1: But now I'm kind of retired because it's just a
33:09
Speaker 1: lot with Nicholas to be home with them all day
33:11
Speaker 1: and doing that, and so now I just have time
33:14
Speaker 1: on my well. I know how busy you are with Nicholas,
33:17
Speaker 1: but we thank you so much for taking the time
33:19
Speaker 1: to be with us today. And we're super excited about
33:21
Speaker 1: this interview. And if you ever want to come on
33:23
Speaker 1: to recap Tamara when she's on Orange County, hit us up.
33:28
Speaker 1: But I have to tell you, Tarma, I am now
33:31
Speaker 1: power watching all of the Housewives of Orange County because
33:34
Speaker 1: I'm trying to see, like where you guys shop and
33:36
Speaker 1: eat and you know that smart yeah, and a lot
33:40
Speaker 1: of places aren't even there. I was gonna say a
33:42
Speaker 1: lot of them been closed down, So her clothes I'll take,
33:45
Speaker 1: but I'm like, I'll take your shop and just go
33:48
Speaker 1: to the Quiet Woman and boyfriend. Go, oh my god,
33:54
Speaker 1: I got to Shannon. I'm on season eight. Oh oh
33:57
Speaker 1: my gosh. Well, we thank you so much for joining us.
34:00
Speaker 1: You are so much fun. Thank you for dealing with
34:02
Speaker 1: all of our crazy questions. And I hope that I
34:05
Speaker 1: can give you one day so and we'll have lunch.
34:07
Speaker 1: So when I come to those seed you guys are
34:09
Speaker 1: having drinks. Yeah, for sure. Thank you, Jacqueline. Bye,