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CORONAVIRUS CRIMES From SUPERMARKET STABBINGS to POISONOUS CURES and DOOR-TO-DOOR VIRUS “TESTS” BEWARE! · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace is coming to Fox Nation. I Want Justice.
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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace available now only on Fox Nation.
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  Speaker 1: Stabbings in Sam's club, fights over sanitizer, online scams, jacking
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  Speaker 1: up the prices of puerrel to forty eight dollars a bottle,
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  Speaker 1: people losing money, Jim Baker, the televangelist on TV offering
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  Speaker 1: a cure for coronavirus and people spending their hard earned
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  Speaker 1: money on it. What is going on Crime Stories with
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  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace? Corona virus crimes? Take a listen to this.
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  Speaker 1: You were just hearing a fight, including a stabbing, that
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  Speaker 1: breaks out at a local Sam's club. I'm Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 1: Believe it or not. It even included a motorized wheelchair.
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  Speaker 1: The place was packed, people were arguing, way, way, way
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  Speaker 1: too many people crowding in to get toilet paper and
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  Speaker 1: hand sanitizer, and it ends up one person is actually
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  Speaker 1: wheeled out on a stretcher after another is stabbed. Joining
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  Speaker 1: me today an all star panel to break it down
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  Speaker 1: and put it back together again? What is happening as
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  Speaker 1: a world gone mad? Don't be a victim? Wendy Patrick,
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  Speaker 1: California prosecutor, author of Red Flags. You can find her
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  Speaker 1: at Wendy Patrick PhD dot com. James Shelnut twenty seven
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  Speaker 1: years Metro major case detective SWAT officer, now retired lawyer.
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  Speaker 1: Dr Michelle Duprie, South Carolina medical examiner and author of
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  Speaker 1: Homicide Investigation Field Guide. Karen Stark joining us from Manhattan,
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  Speaker 1: psychologist at Karen Stark dot com with a C. But
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  Speaker 1: right now to Crime online dot com investigative reporter Levi Page,
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  Speaker 1: Levi Page from Texas to Georgia. All across the country,
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  Speaker 1: we are seeing fights, fist fights, and even stabbings occurring,
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  Speaker 1: and especially the big warehouse sales chains such as Sands Club.
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  Speaker 1: What's happening, Levi? You know, Nancy, since this virus has
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  Speaker 1: broke out, people are rushing to the stores to purchase supplies.
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  Speaker 1: Supplies are locus. Some people are boarding them. And what
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  Speaker 1: happened is I think, Levi, they start banging and hitting
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  Speaker 1: with wine bottles and of course people get cut. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: as you were saying, yes, I mean there's this really
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  Speaker 1: obnoxious in stores and there have been stabbing spits. People
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  Speaker 1: have been willed out on stretchers after getting into altercations
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  Speaker 1: at stores. It's really astounding that people are reacting this
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  Speaker 1: way when we should be supporting each other in a
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  Speaker 1: time less and your fairytale world, Leavi Page, I guess
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  Speaker 1: you're right. James Shellnott, twenty seven years Metro Major KSE
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  Speaker 1: SWAT officer, now lawyer. James. It's a pack mentality, and
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  Speaker 1: I first saw it in a case where a group
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  Speaker 1: of young guys who would not have committed this crime
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  Speaker 1: on their own ended up affecting a triple homicide because
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  Speaker 1: there were four of them together. It seems as if
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  Speaker 1: people work themselves into a frenzy, James, and they do
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  Speaker 1: things they would never do on their own. Oh. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: You know sometimes people go into a criminals beating frenzy
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  Speaker 1: when they wouldn't normally do it by themselves, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And you'd like to think in situations like this, you
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  Speaker 1: know that you would take the high road. You know
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  Speaker 1: that you don't want to be one of these people
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  Speaker 1: contributing to the chaos, you know. But then again the
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  Speaker 1: back of your mind you're thinking, Okay, well, if I'm
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  Speaker 1: a nice guy, may finish last. Maybe my family doesn't
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  Speaker 1: get these necessities that we need to get through this time,
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  Speaker 1: James shall not. You know how much I appreciate you.
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  Speaker 1: I mean twenty seven years Metro Major case SWAT officer,
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  Speaker 1: now lawyer. But I'm going to leave the shrinking to
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  Speaker 1: the shrink. I'm asking you and your experience of all
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  Speaker 1: those years in Metro Major Case and SWAT, even as
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  Speaker 1: a lawyer, have you seen in a crowd where evil
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  Speaker 1: takes over and people commit horrible crimes? Leave page from
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  Speaker 1: crime Online called it really obnoxious. I call it a felony.
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  Speaker 1: James shell Nutt, Oh, absolutely. I mean, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: think about the meantimes that you see videos online or
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  Speaker 1: on TV where one person starts getting attacked, or two
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  Speaker 1: people get in a fight, and then all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden you have multiple people join in in exactly what
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  Speaker 1: you just said was the pact mentality. It is very
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  Speaker 1: common when you have states of civil unrest, when you
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  Speaker 1: have conflict and there are large crowds of people. This
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  Speaker 1: is not an uncommon event in this type of scenario.
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  Speaker 1: As doctor Michelle Dupree, South Carolina Medical Examined or author
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  Speaker 1: of Homicide Investigation Field Guide, in the example we were
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  Speaker 1: using and their examples all across the country, we had
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  Speaker 1: to pick one, doctor Michelle Dupree. In this case, people
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  Speaker 1: were slugging each other with wine bottles and somebody, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: can you imagine, Jackie, if I had the twins at
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  Speaker 1: Costco or Sam's Club and this went down. Oh, doctor
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  Speaker 1: Michelle Dupree. Don't people get when you swing a wine bottle,
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  Speaker 1: somebody's going to get killed or stabbed. That's what happened
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  Speaker 1: here to our understanding. Surely they must, Nancy, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: a wine bottle is going to break. Not only are
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  Speaker 1: you going to hit that person, but you risk you
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  Speaker 1: risk damaging that person by a glass cutting. You know.
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  Speaker 1: The reality is that using a wine bottle or a
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  Speaker 1: big bottle on someone is just as dangerous as a
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  Speaker 1: switch blade or a knife, even more so because the
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  Speaker 1: force behind a full wine bottle. When you hit somebody
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  Speaker 1: with that, it's like clubbing them. James Shell, Not it's
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  Speaker 1: like using a club on their head. Oh, absolutely, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's what force trauma that can crush your skull and
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  Speaker 1: absolutely kill you. I mean, I think at that point,
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  Speaker 1: if you're onged, you know you have the right to
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  Speaker 1: use deadly force to defend yourself because the force being
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  Speaker 1: used against you is potentially deadly and catch this guy's
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  Speaker 1: leavi page. Take a listen about really obnoxious in our business.
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  Speaker 1: We call it a felony. Apparently a man was in
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  Speaker 1: the aisles in a motorized shopping cart like a rascal.
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  Speaker 1: Those things you sit on and they move around. When
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  Speaker 1: another family tried to get in his very same spot,
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  Speaker 1: the man in the motorized cop shopping cart hit the
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  Speaker 1: family's cart. And that is when the woman, I guess
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  Speaker 1: the mother setting a wonderful example for her children, started
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  Speaker 1: well and on the guy, and everything escalated into fights
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  Speaker 1: with wine bottles. To Karen Start, NewYork psychologists joining us
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  Speaker 1: this morning from Manhattan. Karen Start helped me out the mentality.
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  Speaker 1: Can you imagine me with the children twins, with me
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  Speaker 1: suddenly hauling off and punching a guy in a motorized
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  Speaker 1: a rascal? What do you call those? A motorized shopping cart?
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  Speaker 1: That's what all the news reports say. You know, they
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  Speaker 1: drive around in the grocery store and they stare it.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a little scooter. What was she thinking? A woman,
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  Speaker 1: a lady started the fistfight. People are not themselves right now, Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: and as Karen, are you seriously do you really just
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  Speaker 1: say that to me if I heard that in court. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't himself when he stabs someone with a wine.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it it's acceptable, but I'm not surprised,
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  Speaker 1: And I think that people need to be prepared and
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  Speaker 1: make sure that things like this don't happen, because there's
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  Speaker 1: there's an underlying hysteria that's happening. I'm I'm constantly doing
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  Speaker 1: sessions at this point and helping people to calm down.
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  Speaker 1: But they start to get this idea that this is
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  Speaker 1: going to be the last roll of toilet paper on
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  Speaker 1: Earth and very and they become frantic. And there's really
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  Speaker 1: truth to the fact that when you're in a crowd
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  Speaker 1: and people become aggressive, other people will catch And they've
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  Speaker 1: done experiments where they show that if one person begins
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  Speaker 1: to do something like that, other people will pick pick
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  Speaker 1: up on it. If people do something a good way
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  Speaker 1: and are gracious, there's more of a tendency to follow that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you said Karen's people are not themselves, But
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  Speaker 1: I'm wondering if themselves actually take over and crack through
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  Speaker 1: that thin veneer we call being polite, and that their
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  Speaker 1: true natures come out. I mean attacking a guy in
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  Speaker 1: a motorized wheelchair. Crime stories with Nancy Grace, we are
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  Speaker 1: talking about Corona virus crimes. Everyone going insane, actually coming
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  Speaker 1: to blows, stabbings, attacks with wine bottles in open view
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  Speaker 1: right there at a Sam's Club. But it's not just
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  Speaker 1: Sam's Club. It's throughout the country and all sorts of
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  Speaker 1: grocery stores, these warehouse stores, especially where a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people congregate. But believe it or not, it goes all
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  Speaker 1: the way to TV. I want you to take a
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  Speaker 1: listen now to host of the Jim Baker Show, Jim Baker.
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  Speaker 1: This influenza that is now circling the globe. You're saying
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  Speaker 1: that silver solution would be effective. Well, let's say it
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  Speaker 1: hasn't been tested on this strain of the coronavirus, but
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  Speaker 1: it's been tested on other strains of the coronavirus and
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  Speaker 1: has been able to eliminate it within twelve hours. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: totally eliminate it, kills it and deactivates it, and then
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  Speaker 1: it boosts your immune system, so then you can support
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  Speaker 1: the recovery because when you kill the virus, then the
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  Speaker 1: immune system comes into action to clear it out. So
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  Speaker 1: you want a vibrant immune system. Well, well you heard
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  Speaker 1: it right there from the horse's mouth. Jim Baker, disgraced
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  Speaker 1: televangelist trying to sell a cure for the coronavirus. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what they're saying about. It cures one
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  Speaker 1: strain of coronavirus, but not another. Wow. If we only
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  Speaker 1: knew that silver solution would cure coronavirus, well don't worry.
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  Speaker 1: Jim Baker now in hot water, being sued by the
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  Speaker 1: state of Missouri for selling fake coronavirus cures on his website. Baker,
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  Speaker 1: The Jim Baker Show and six other companies warned by
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  Speaker 1: the FTC where I used to work, the Federal Trade Commission,
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  Speaker 1: and the FDA to stop selling unapproved products and treatments,
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  Speaker 1: products like silver saal liquid that claim to diagnose or
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  Speaker 1: cure the coronavirus illness. He is now being suit. Take
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  Speaker 1: a listen now to Inside Edition. This is amazing. Is
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  Speaker 1: there a miracle treatment for coronavirus orders silver? Now, this
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  Speaker 1: televangelist seems to suggest. So Hello and welcome to the
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  Speaker 1: Jim Baker Show. Jim Baker, the notorious pastor who served
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  Speaker 1: five years in prison for fraud in the early nineteen
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  Speaker 1: nineties and was once married to the late Tammy Faye.
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  Speaker 1: Baker is now back on the airways making well surprising
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  Speaker 1: claims that this silver solution could be effective against the coronavirus.
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  Speaker 1: We've tested it. It works on just about everything, this
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  Speaker 1: influenza that is now circling the globe. You're saying that
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  Speaker 1: silver solution would be effective. Well, let's say it hasn't
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  Speaker 1: been tested on this strain of the coronavirus, but it's
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  Speaker 1: been tested on other strains of the coronavirus and has
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  Speaker 1: been able to eliminate it within twelve hours. So what
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  Speaker 1: do you think about these people kind of pushing this
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  Speaker 1: silver as a treatment. It's an absolute outrage that they're
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  Speaker 1: pushing this product. There's no evidence for its effectiveness. They're
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  Speaker 1: exploiting people who are fearful about the virus. Stay away
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  Speaker 1: from the product. All you're doing is wasting your money.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder how many thousands of dollars Jim Baker raked in,
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  Speaker 1: and he's notorious for that. That's what he did on
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  Speaker 1: the Jim Baker's show. I don't remember the name of
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  Speaker 1: his televangelist show, but he and his wife, Tammy pays
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  Speaker 1: you recall went to trial over various many infractions and
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  Speaker 1: he went to jail. Well he's back, and wow, what
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  Speaker 1: a comeback. Straight out to levipage Climb online dot Com
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  Speaker 1: investigative reporter. What oh wait wait, whoa, whoa whoa. Let
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  Speaker 1: me just drink this in for a moment. There's Jim
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  Speaker 1: Baker on his way. Oh oh there he isn't is
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  Speaker 1: he coming out? And no, no, no, there he is.
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  Speaker 1: He's coming out of a law enforcement van, a secure van,
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  Speaker 1: and hobbling his way into court. You know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so let me circle back to you in a moment,
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  Speaker 1: Karen Stark. It seems as if once you've done Gael time,
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  Speaker 1: you wouldn't want to go back. Okay, levi page Climb
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  Speaker 1: online dot Com investigator reporter. What is Jim Baker selling
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  Speaker 1: colloidal silver? What is that? Yes, it's called silver Solution
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  Speaker 1: and basically it's just the mineral silver Nancy, And he
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  Speaker 1: claims that it can cure a certain friend of the
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  Speaker 1: coronavirus as well as HIV, and the FDA, the Federal
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  Speaker 1: Drug Administration, has said that that is not true, that
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  Speaker 1: those claims are false. In fact, this silver mineral and
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  Speaker 1: high doses can actually call Nigeria, which is a condition
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  Speaker 1: where it actually can hurt your kidneys and actually make
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  Speaker 1: your skin change color. It can turn you into a
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  Speaker 1: silver color. And basically the state of Missouri is actually
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  Speaker 1: suing him, the Missouri Attorney General telling him to stop
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  Speaker 1: advertising this product. And we shouldn't be surprised and Nancy.
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  Speaker 1: In the eighties and nineties, he was very controversial. A
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  Speaker 1: woman even accused him of rape Jessica Yes. Jessicaon later
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  Speaker 1: appeared in Playboy magazine, but apparently people believed her story.
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  Speaker 1: As I recall, she may have been given alcohol or drugs.
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  Speaker 1: Everything was very fuzzy to her about what happened. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: there he is, and he said it was consensual. He
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  Speaker 1: said it was consensual. Guys, we're talking about people such
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  Speaker 1: as Jim Baker allegedly scamming you for thousands and thousands
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  Speaker 1: of dollars for Corona virus cures. Jim Baker at it again.
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  Speaker 1: I want to go to doctor Michelle Dupree out of
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  Speaker 1: South Carolina medical examiner, author of Homicide Investigator, should feel
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  Speaker 1: guide the moment I heard about what Baker was up to. Now,
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  Speaker 1: ripping people offered not only ripping them offer their money,
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  Speaker 1: but potentially killing them. It's a colloidal silver, he claims
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  Speaker 1: it's effective to cure coronavirus. I know it can build
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  Speaker 1: up in your body's tissue and it can actually make
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  Speaker 1: you turn blue. You turn blue, and I don't believe
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  Speaker 1: that's reversible. But what is colloidal silver and what does
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  Speaker 1: it do to you? Why is it so dangerous? Nane,
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  Speaker 1: This is actually something that we call a heavy metal.
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  Speaker 1: And there is no use for this in the body.
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  Speaker 1: And again, as you said, too much of it is
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  Speaker 1: damaging to many of your internal organ There's no use
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  Speaker 1: for it that your body can deal with it, and
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  Speaker 1: you do. Your skin turns blue, your hands, your face,
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  Speaker 1: your whole body. Dotor dupree. When you say it affects
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  Speaker 1: your internal organs, what does it do. It'll build up
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  Speaker 1: in things like your liver, your spleen, even your intestines.
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  Speaker 1: And when it builds up in something like the liver,
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  Speaker 1: your liver is what processes much of our food, many
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  Speaker 1: of our nutrients. If that liver is damage, then it
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  Speaker 1: can't process the normal nutrients and things that it needs
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  Speaker 1: to process. So therefore part of our body starts to
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  Speaker 1: have problems with the normal functioning, and if it continues,
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  Speaker 1: then we've become very ill and could possibly be fatal.
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  Speaker 1: The gym makers show falsely promised to consumers silver solution
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  Speaker 1: can cure, eliminate, killed, deactivate coronavirus, and boost the elderly
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  Speaker 1: consumer's immune system. The ones most at risk, the elderly.
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  Speaker 1: Some of our most vulnerable in our society are the
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  Speaker 1: ones he's hawking the silver solution to the reality is
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  Speaker 1: there is no peel, no potion, no product, no vaccine
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  Speaker 1: yet on mass market to fight coronavirus. Take a listen
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  Speaker 1: to our friends at Saint Louis KMOV four. This is
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  Speaker 1: Samantha Jones, the well known Missouri televangelist, is being sued
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  Speaker 1: by the state he's accused of claiming he has a
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  Speaker 1: cure for coronavirus. Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmid has filed
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  Speaker 1: a lawsuit against Jim Baker and Morningside Church Productions in Branson.
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  Speaker 1: According to the lawsuit, Baker and his doctor and a
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  Speaker 1: doctor claimed a silver solution can cure the disease. This
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  Speaker 1: was on an episode of The Jim Baker Show. The
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  Speaker 1: lawsuit is calling for a permanent injunction against Baker, which
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  Speaker 1: would require he stopped selling the silver solution as a
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  Speaker 1: treatment for coronavirus. Hi, guys, Nancy Grace, here, we have
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  Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. Well, the world has been
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  Speaker 1: turned upside down since Corona virus hit and now there
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  Speaker 1: are wolves, coyotes, hyenas at the edge of the pack
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  Speaker 1: of people trying to take advantage of them get their money.
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  Speaker 1: And here I learned that after researching it, Jim Baker
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  Speaker 1: advertised colloidial silver products for up to one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: twenty five dollars a variety pack deal. On the Jim
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  Speaker 1: Baker Show. He often preaches about the end of times.
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  Speaker 1: Now we know that he rebuilt his empire after doing
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  Speaker 1: a stint in jail, and this is just one of
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  Speaker 1: the ways he's doing it. The FDA says he is
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  Speaker 1: misleading viewers into thinking silver solution can keep the coronavirus
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  Speaker 1: at bay and even quote kill it within twelve hours.
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  Speaker 1: That is entirely false. In fact, the silver solution cure
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  Speaker 1: colloidial silver can kill you, not kill the coronavirus, but
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  Speaker 1: kill you. Thank goodness, the Missouri Attorney General is filing
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  Speaker 1: an action against him. It's not just Jim Baker. So
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  Speaker 1: many are out to rip you off in ways that
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  Speaker 1: could even harm you. Hysteria has taken over and criminals
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  Speaker 1: are being held at bay coronavirus crimes. I want you
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  Speaker 1: to take a listen to our friends at WRCBTV. This
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  Speaker 1: is Hunter Hoagland listener Matt Colvin. A pandemic meant an opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: It went to zero to sixty really fast. After the
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  Speaker 1: first COVID nineteen death in the United States, Colvin went
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  Speaker 1: state to state clearing out sanitizer shelves. He now sits
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  Speaker 1: with eighteen thousand unused bottles in his home and storage unit.
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  Speaker 1: While people in the Tennessee Valley struggled to find one.
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  Speaker 1: The bulk of it was purchased with just driving around
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  Speaker 1: to retail stores in the Chattanooga area. Colvin bought the
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  Speaker 1: sanitizer with the intention of selling them for profit on
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  Speaker 1: Amazon before they took his listings down. Now feeling the
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  Speaker 1: same panic as many others, Oh crap is the pgu
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  Speaker 1: way to say it. Though he would not discuss on
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  Speaker 1: camera the exact prices he sold the sanitizer for, he
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  Speaker 1: told The New York Times in a recent interview that
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  Speaker 1: some items were listed at seventy dollars a bottle. The
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  Speaker 1: pricing on Amazon was higher than it was, definitely higher
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  Speaker 1: than retail seventy dollars a bottle for a bottle of purell.
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  Speaker 1: Last night, I did not take my children with me.
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  Speaker 1: I went to various stores looking for hand sanitizer. After
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  Speaker 1: the fourth one we quit. This guy has what what
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  Speaker 1: did he say, LEAVI page, It's seventeen eighteen thousand bottles
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  Speaker 1: of hand sanitizer. He scoured the country, acquiring them as
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: soon as coronavirus hit. What happened, Yes, Nancy, we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about Matt and Noah COVID and they live in Hickson, Tennessee,
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  Speaker 1: which is outside Chattanooga. And they had this get rich
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  Speaker 1: quick scheme that they were doing, and they were going
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  Speaker 1: around Tennessee and Kentucky collecting thousands of units of hand sanitizer.
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  Speaker 1: And then what they were doing, Nancy, is they were
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  Speaker 1: storing them in a storage unit, and they had seventeen
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  Speaker 1: thousand bottles of it, and they were selling it on
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  Speaker 1: eBay and Amazon for like eighty bucks. Some of it
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: was going for eighty bucks just for hand sanitizer. And
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: the Tennessee Attorney General made them shut this down. The
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: New York Times did an extensive report over it, and
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: now they say that they're donating it to local church.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: All right, that's what they say to Wendy Patrick, California
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: prosecutor and author. I've read flags at Wendy Patrick PhD
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  Speaker 1: dot com. Wendy, is what they did technically a crime? Well, yeah,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: you know it is criminal to have this type of
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: misrepresentation that goes to this extent. Obviously, as you and
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: I and our listeners. Wait wait, wait, wait wait, they're
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: charging people seventy dollars a bottle for hand sanitizer. What
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: is the misrepresentation? It depends on how much it normally was.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Remember that the price gouging laws kick in when you're
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: reselling a product at a certain percentage over what it
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: would normally sell for. And Nancy, you also have to,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: as we know, you have to look at what are
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: the circumstances under which you are jacking up the price.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: These guys and people like them that are seeking to
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: exploit pandemic panic buying are in a hard spot trying
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: to justify why they needed to raise the price as
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: much as they did. If it's an exorbitant difference, then
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: you bet it goes into price gouging criminal laws. If
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: it's not, they're going to have to explain why they
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: needed to raise the price as much as they did
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: and how much that same bottle will have gone for
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: as you point out just three weeks earlier, well, I
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: know that you can buy them for a dollar at
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: the Dollar Tree or the dollar store. Colvin and brother
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Noah loaded up on the items before the online retailer
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  Speaker 1: Amazon stop their sales and the Tennessee Attorney General intervening.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: As Levi Page just told us seventy dollars a bottle
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  Speaker 1: for a one dollar bottle of purel or hand sanitizer.
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  Speaker 1: Thousands of bottles of hand sanitizer, packs of antibacterial whips,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: medical masks were being stored seventeen thousand, seven hundred bottles
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: of sanitizer. It's what we're talking about. These two brothers
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: on the hunt for people to buy sanitizer, eject up prices.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: But what's going to happen to them? Take a listen
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: now to our friend WRCBTV needs reporter Hunter Hoogland Box
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  Speaker 1: after Box greed left storage units across Hickson, Tennessee. At
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, we've got nothing to hide.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: Then again, hiding is hard to do when a plan
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: to profit from a pandemic has made public. Matt Colbyn
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  Speaker 1: bought eighteen thou first coronavirus death. Amazon took down his
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  Speaker 1: listings after some were posted at seventy dollars each. Is
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  Speaker 1: your business taking the advantage of no My business is
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: not taking advantage of people. Tennessee's Attorney General sent Matt
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  Speaker 1: and his brother Noah Covin a cease and desist order,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: stating they have reason to believe that two were charging
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: unreasonable prices for sanitizer, masks and other medical goods. I
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: didn't think it was going to blow up into a
• 26:27
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• 26:31
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• 26:34
  Speaker 1: cleared out sanitizer shelves across the Tennessee Valley, while many
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: others struggled to find any. As much as two million
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: dollars that we know of has been scammed due to
• 26:45
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  Speaker 1: we are talking about corona virus scams and some of
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  Speaker 1: you could Some of them could very well cost you
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  Speaker 1: your life right now. Online and phone scams ripping off
• 28:55
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  Speaker 1: This is ling tonight. States across the country cracking down
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  Speaker 1: on coronavirus price gouging. We're now starting to see scam
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  Speaker 1: artists trying to profit off of the fear of the coronavirus.
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  Speaker 1: As fears grow, products like masks and hand sanitizer are
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: selling out in stores and online. Prices on Amazon, Walmart,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: and Facebook Marketplace from third party sellers are skyrocketing two
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: hundred and twenty dollars for a box of ten masks
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: on Amazon, eleven times the regular price, and for a
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: bottle of hand sanitizer on Walmart dot com forty eight dollars,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: normally less than four Amazon tells NBC News it's blocked
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: or removed more than one million products. Both Amazon and
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Walmart also say they're actively working to take down overpriced items,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: but a quick Amazon search of hand sanitizer still turns
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: up bottles that are more than twice the regular price. However,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: the listings of those price gouged bottles are fewer now.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: According to city officials in Kentucky, scam are actually going
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: door to door, you know, like the Encyclopedia salespeople or
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: the vacuum cleaner salesman. They're going door to door now
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: pretending to test for coronavirus. We learned that from our
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: friends at Kfox going door to door to test for coronavirus,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure charging the people that answer when they
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: ring the doorbell straight out to crime online dot com
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: investigative reporter. You know Levi page. We are now understanding
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: that there are phishing scams, social engineering, non delivering scams.
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  Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, Levi, hold on, take listen
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: to our friends at j w j XT. This is
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Ashley Harding. Listen Levi with a coronavirus outbreak on the
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: minds of many. Scammeras are now taking advantage of people's fear,
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  Speaker 1: and they're doing it in some of the most secretive ways.
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  Speaker 1: The Secret Services I identified three different scams infiltrating people's inboxes.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: They include phishing, social engineering, and non delivery scans. With fishing,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: the Secret Service said victims gone emails from a health
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: organization with attachments claiming to have info on the coronavirus.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: The victims open diad which led to malware infecting their
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: systems or prompted them to enter their email log in credentials.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: As scameras are also getting unsuspecting victims to hand over
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: money to fake charities related to the virus. Even more,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: dairy bad guys are posing as an in demand medical
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: supply company selling supplies to prevent or protect people from
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: the coronavirus. They'll demand money upfront without delivering any products.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: So how do you spot the scameras? The Feds say
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: you should never open attachments or click on links from
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: senders you don't recognize, and always independently verify any requested
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: information originates from a legitimate source. Not only should you
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: not open up attachments that you don't recognize, don't open
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: your door to people you don't recognize. That's a rule
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: of thumb always. But right now, when so many people
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: are afraid, as it should be, of coronavirus infection, these
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: scammers are actually going door to door to test for coronavirus.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: So leavi page climb online dot Com investigative reporter, what
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: can you tell me about these scams? And Nancy with
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: a lot of those scams that are going on, they're
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: just flat out fast because you can't there's no door
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: to door testing for coronavirus. And the Department of Justice
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: has said that they are going to crack down on
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: these scams because the state of emergency has been declared,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: and when a state of emergency has been declared, a
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: lot of laws kick in, especially a lot of antitrust laws,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: and these people are going to be prosecuted to the
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: fullest extent of the law. According to William Barr, the
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Attorney General and their Apartment of Justice taking this very seriously. Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: and we know the people that offer these scams most often, Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: and this is scary. It's the elderly, because you know,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: they're not on the Internet as much as younger people are,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: and they don't know that a lot of these things
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: are scams. Well, very often the scams look like an
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: official notice. I got one from American Express. It looked
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: just like American Express. It wasn't about coronavirus. It was
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: another scam. It wasn't an American Express, but it was
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: using their logo with their colors. It happens all the
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: time in these cases. As a matter of fact. Let
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: me tell you about this one. Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: author of Red Flags. My brother and his wife got
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: a phone call that I forgot how it went, that
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: somebody had taken their identity and they needed to come
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: immediately to the Northern District Court in Atlanta and answer
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: a summons. Well, they were getting in the car to
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: go and called me about I'm like, whoa wait, that's
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: not how summons work. This was a total scam, and
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: they were somehow trying to get their vital information such
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: as social Security credit card numbers. What I mean is now,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: in the time of coronavirus, is even worse. Could you
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: explain in simple terms, Wendy, what it means to fish
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: p H I s H fish. That's right. You're exploiting unfamiliarity.
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  Speaker 1: You're looking for people online that won't recognize a scam.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: You're preying on people that can't tell the difference. And
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: as you just pointed out with the with the example
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: of your brother and wife, I mean, how would a
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: normal person know what a summons looks like if they
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: have no experience with the legal process. So thank god
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: he you to call. Think of how many people don't
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: have that lifeline that know, people in the industry that
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: can let them know truth from fiction. That is the word.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing about them, Wendy. They're very savvy. They
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: know all about travel. They both you know, retired, and
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: they go to the Westminster Dog Show, and they go here,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: and they go to Lake Place. They're traveling the world.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: They know all the ins and outs. They give me
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: tips for the twins and somehow they almost signed away
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: all their vital information. And what's so tricky is these
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: fake emails that you'll get look real. As a matter
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: of fact. Take a listen now to our friends at
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: WG and Chicago News. This is Lord Duarte. Your phone
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: is one way they're targeting Americans. The other is online
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: domains being registered with them. Mention of coronavirus are up.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Internet security groups have already identified several as potentially dangerous,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: among them Coronavirus Status dot Space, Coronavirus dashmap dot com,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: and Coronavirus dash Real Time. Even the Better Business Bureau,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: which has been warning people of the coronavirus scams, received
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: this phishing email this week. It's the worst I've ever
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: seen it in my thirty two years. Here to the
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Better Business Bureau. Scams are everywhere right now. They're going
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: from you, from businesses to consumers. The emails, which to
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: the average person look real, come with baggage. This one
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: from John DeFranco and the title everything you need to Know.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: It should be closed and deleted. Another one seems to
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: come from China with an attachment and an update. Clicking
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: on it gives the bad guys the opportunity to peer
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: into your personal information steal bank accounts, even in fact
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: an entire company software that's right clicking on that attachment,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: it actually delivers malware mal mL like maleficent the Evil
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: witch or malignant mal means bad. As I was saying,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: a lot of these emails that come to you look real,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: and now the fads are on it, and I'm talking
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: about the Secret Service. Listen to CBS Catherine Harrige. The
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Secret Service is tracking the spike in coronavirus cybercrime. Anytime
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: there's a heightened element of fear, such as with the coronavirus,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: criminals are going to exploit that. If you get an
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: email like this, what are the red flags? The requestion
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Western Union, MoneyGram or bitcoin is forms of payment. Legitimate
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: business will offer payments either through invoicing or through credit cards.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Hankers are also mimicking legitimate government agencies. This email, claiming
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: to be from the World Health Organization promises safety tips.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Agents are urging the public to be on alert from misspellings,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: bad grammar, not to open attachments if you don't know
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: the center. Threat actors are going to take advantage of
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: the situation and milk it for all that it's worth.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Adam Myers with the tech security firm CrowdStrike. So cyber
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: criminals are working all of the angles. There are plenty
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: of threat actors that will use phone scams as well.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: How does that work? They will call up, they'll know
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: a lot about you, and that will kind of build
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: that trust and then you kind of follow the instruction
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: always call back and make sure that it's something that's legitimate.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Coronavirus is bringing out not only the best, such as
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: nurses and doctors leaving their own families and working around
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: the clock, scientists trying their best to come up with answers,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: but the worst. Please don't be a victim. Nancy Grace
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Crime Stories signing off, goodbye friend,