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#639 - Dave Blunts Speaks on 50 Cent, Ye’s Controversial Songs, Katt Williams Skit & More · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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Speaker 1: Yo.
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Speaker 2: You might hear us. Let's get into the interview. Bootleg
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Speaker 2: CAV Show Man Special guests in here. Return guests, Dave Blunts.
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Speaker 1: How's it going man.
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Speaker 2: Good to see you, buddy, Good to see you too, man.
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Speaker 2: How you doing.
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Speaker 1: Shit man working?
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Speaker 2: You just put a new song out, was it last week?
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Speaker 1: H Yeah? Yeah I did.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. It is a very vintage Dave Blunts. If you will, oh.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the best way to describe it's a very
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Speaker 1: Dave Once song. You hear it, you're like, yeah, this
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Speaker 1: is something that Dave Once will make only him.
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Speaker 2: I gotta ask you, like, because you're known for a
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Speaker 2: lot of your outlandish lyrics, Yeah, has there been something
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Speaker 2: you've ever regretted saying on a record?
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Speaker 1: Yes?
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Speaker 2: What would that be?
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Speaker 1: Shit? Hey man, the viewers can fucking people watching this
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Speaker 1: now they can they can use their imagination or a
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Speaker 1: little bit of context clues to pick up on what
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Speaker 1: that may or may not be. Yeah, I've regretted a
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Speaker 1: few things that I've said before.
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Speaker 2: Anything like just because you might have like just hurt
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Speaker 2: someone's feelings, you didn't because I don't feel like for
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Speaker 2: people who I feel like you don't have that intent.
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Speaker 1: You're being like, No, I never have the intent to
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Speaker 1: hurt anybody's feelings. And sometimes it'll come from a place
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Speaker 1: of I don't necessarily think like, oh this will be funny.
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Speaker 1: I'm just you know, really just making music. I wish
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Speaker 1: that there was a more, like, you know, in depth
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Speaker 1: reason as to why I say the things I say.
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Speaker 1: But shit, I can't tell you really. There's some there's
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Speaker 1: it's it's a mix of things. Sometimes it depends on
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Speaker 1: what it is. I say. It's either something I feel
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Speaker 1: strongly or something that you know, in the moment, I'm
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Speaker 1: just fucking around. Sometimes I'll go in there drunk and
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Speaker 1: say some shit.
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Speaker 2: So, yeah, do you feel like the gays have an
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Speaker 2: issue with you specifically, because you know, listen, in the nineties,
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Speaker 2: the F word was my shit. It's a great word
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Speaker 2: in the nineties to call your friends. Yeah, not to
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Speaker 2: call like a gay person. I'd be like, yo, stop
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Speaker 2: being a pass me the controller, you know whatever. Obviously,
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Speaker 2: how did the gays feel about Dave Blunt's music?
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Speaker 1: Oh, the gays love Dave bluntz music.
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Speaker 2: They do.
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Speaker 1: I have a lot of gay transgender.
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Speaker 2: I feel like the baked in there. You've showed them
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Speaker 2: some love.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, last time I was here. Yeah, I love
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Speaker 1: all women, including trends women. Yeah, and I'm back here
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Speaker 1: a year later, nigga, And I'm doubling down on that
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Speaker 1: stand Hell yeah, hell yeah, I'm doubling down on that.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, man, I don't. I mean, look, they they
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Speaker 1: know that I am not coming from a place of
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Speaker 1: hate or a place of being discriminated, discriminating towards people,
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Speaker 1: And it's like shit, the way that I see it.
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Speaker 1: If you listen to my music, everybody gets it, and
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Speaker 1: I feel it's like for me to leave them out
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Speaker 1: that will be discriminating.
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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Yeah, I feel like I feel like it's
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Speaker 2: it's just like it's like if you're listening to your
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Speaker 2: ship and you're like taking it like he's obviously being
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Speaker 2: like funny.
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Speaker 1: You know, and like you know, like you said, it's
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Speaker 1: being funny, it's not always out of a place of comedy.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just very rash and very blunts. You know.
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Speaker 1: I go in there, Dave blunts, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, I was just having this
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Speaker 1: conversation the other day. I think it was when I
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Speaker 1: was working king with uh with ya. He was just
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Speaker 1: telling me like, oh, like there's not a whole lot
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Speaker 1: of double on tandres with you like this is what
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Speaker 1: it means, Yes, this is what it means, and it's
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Speaker 1: like yeah, And then you know, the other day there
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Speaker 1: was somebody, uh you know, because like I be streaming
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Speaker 1: and ship. Yeah, so I was, you know, making some
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Speaker 1: songs on live and somebody was like, damn, would it
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Speaker 1: hurt you to put in a double entendre. I'm like, why,
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Speaker 1: Like what's the point? Like I can do that, I've
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Speaker 1: done it before, but it's like, why not just say it?
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because it's like, you know,
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Speaker 1: it'll be artists and I'm not gonna necessarily say any names,
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Speaker 1: but they'll be like the things that me and my
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Speaker 1: girl go through are sometimes physical and mental. It's like, nigga,
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Speaker 1: just say that you beat your bitch, you know what.
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Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, you go through physic with your girl.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, just say that. That's what you're saying
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Speaker 1: without saying it. Why not just say it to me?
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Speaker 1: That's kind of just like, I mean, I guess you're
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Speaker 1: like finessing that you're trying to be coy about it.
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Speaker 1: But with me, it's just like I'm just say that, shit, Hey, you.
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Speaker 2: the podcast. Yeah, do you feel like you're in a
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Speaker 2: good place right now? Mentally?
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Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever been in like a great
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Speaker 1: place mentally, but.
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Speaker 2: Well, how shit I might. I mean, I feel like
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Speaker 2: I feel like you gotta glow to you right now.
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Speaker 1: I mean, shit, bro, I'm sit. They got been going
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Speaker 1: for a couple of years now, but shit, Oh.
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Speaker 2: I mean, how are you? Like is everything good? Like
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Speaker 2: I obviously I've seen you trying to, you know, get
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Speaker 2: back in the gym, And how's your health going.
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Speaker 1: Uh, it's just it's going better than it better than
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Speaker 1: it once was, which is kind of very vague, but
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Speaker 1: that should be having like it's like a roller coaster,
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Speaker 1: you know. So the health journey is kind of like, Uh,
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Speaker 1: I'll be having my days where I'm motivated and then
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Speaker 1: i have days where I'm not, but you know, just
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Speaker 1: still getting back, uh, you know, as many times as
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Speaker 1: a fault, just getting back up again.
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Speaker 2: You know, that's important trying to always do better, you know,
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Speaker 2: if you can, even if you have a rough week
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Speaker 2: or a rough month or a day or whatever. So
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Speaker 2: you're one of the guys who has like done a
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Speaker 2: pretty good job of like getting on the other side
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Speaker 2: of a fifty cent conflict unscathed. Some might even say
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Speaker 2: you might have got the better side of fifty. Fifty
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Speaker 2: is one of the most pettiest guys of all time. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: when you like engage with fifty, are you worried about Okay,
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Speaker 2: cause he's notoriously known to kind of be like the
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Speaker 2: king of the troll, the king of the Internet, if
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Speaker 2: you will.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've also known to be that, but outside of
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Speaker 1: the Internet, you know what I'm saying, because I'm new
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Speaker 1: Year still, so it's like I've been doing this shit
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Speaker 1: he's doing online in my real life, you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, if not even worse, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: So it's like that shit didn't phaze me at all,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I do kind of
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Speaker 1: say like the only reason that I had said something
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Speaker 1: was because he had said something about you know yay,
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Speaker 1: And that's when me and him were working together, and
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Speaker 1: you know, me and Yea, it wasn't really just like
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Speaker 1: a just like a work you know, like weren't just
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Speaker 1: working together. We were friends and you know, really really
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Speaker 1: good friends. So you know, we were talking on the
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Speaker 1: phone and I think fifty I came out and said
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Speaker 1: something about him and his wife, and then he was
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Speaker 1: just like, man, I just don't really know what to
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Speaker 1: do when it comes to this shit. Like I got
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Speaker 1: a lot of shit going on, and you know he
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Speaker 1: was fucking with Fifty at the time, right, So so
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Speaker 1: I was just I was like, hey, don't say nothing,
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Speaker 1: because I know that he's not gonna stop if you
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Speaker 1: respond to him. And I don't know necessarily because the
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Speaker 1: mental state you're in right now if you can handle that.
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Speaker 1: But me, I'm with all the bullshit all the time off,
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Speaker 1: so I'm like, I don't even worry. I'll say something
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Speaker 1: and so, yeah, you're a good friend. Yeah, So I
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Speaker 1: just I said something. I think what did I say?
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Speaker 1: I think the first one was kind of like just
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Speaker 1: a little little jab. I was like, well, you're talking
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Speaker 1: about his wife when you know your big mama allegedly
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Speaker 1: got pissed on by Diddy. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we saw the documentary. I don't know
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Speaker 2: how much alleged exactly exactly.
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Speaker 1: So I said that, and then, like I don't know,
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Speaker 1: maybe like a month and a half went by and
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Speaker 1: I wake up one day and he posted me on
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Speaker 1: his page saying something about pushing me down the stairs,
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Speaker 1: and then there's another picture like a panda rolling down
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Speaker 1: the hill referring to me. So I was like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do drop a record. Yeah, like what
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Speaker 1: I've been doing. Whenever somebody disrespects me, you know, says
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Speaker 1: something about me, It's like, Okay, even though I started
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Speaker 1: it first, I'm not just gonna cower down because he
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Speaker 1: said something like all right, nigga, you want to do
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Speaker 1: this trolling shit? I controlled too.
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Speaker 2: What was kind of the like you had mentioned a
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Speaker 2: little bit earlier, Yaya was in a certain mental state.
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Speaker 2: It seems like he's trying to get on track again
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Speaker 2: in terms of like in getting into good graces, and
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Speaker 2: you know, you apologize with a lot of people. What
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Speaker 2: was kind of the genesis of you guys, I guess
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Speaker 2: splitting in terms of your friendship.
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Speaker 1: That shit just got too much for me to handle. Bro,
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, you know, working with him
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Speaker 1: in the beginning was already pretty pretty crazy, but yeah,
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Speaker 1: it just got too much to handle. There was just
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Speaker 1: a lot of obviously the records we were making were
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Speaker 1: pretty pretty controversial and pretty you know, it just got
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Speaker 1: to a dark place.
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Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, some of the records were very controversial.
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Speaker 1: Controversially, you know what I'm saying. And at the end
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Speaker 1: of the day, it was just like it got to
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Speaker 1: a place to where, you know, it's just I couldn't
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Speaker 1: keep I couldn't keep making excuses to myself as to
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Speaker 1: why I'm still doing.
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Speaker 2: This, like maybe like like why why you would step
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Speaker 2: out of your character for the sake of something?
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Speaker 1: It gets exactly that, and then it gets to a
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Speaker 1: point to where, you know, and then a lot of
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Speaker 1: people always asking me, well, why did you why did
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Speaker 1: you make those songs? Why did you do it? You
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know, He's coming to me
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Speaker 1: and telling me at the time, like these songs are
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Speaker 1: breathing life into him. You know what I'm saying, It's
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Speaker 1: it's whatever he was going through at the time, that
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Speaker 1: was giving a voice to his his anger, his frustrations,
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Speaker 1: and you know, he was talking about times about wanting
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Speaker 1: to take his life and these are the only things
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Speaker 1: that are keeping him not wanting to do that. And
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Speaker 1: so I'm like, I think I'm doing like a good thing,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like shit, he's saying that
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Speaker 1: this is making him not want to take his life.
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Speaker 1: Like all right, let's keep on making any songs. How
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Speaker 1: much damage could it really be doing? Until I realize, yeah,
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Speaker 1: this is doing pretty much. There's a lot of damage.
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Speaker 2: So, like, for people who don't know you, you were
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Speaker 2: a part of the Cousin song, Yeah, the World War
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Speaker 2: three and was it? Is it the Hall Hitler song?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: What listen. Obviously you've I think made your piece and
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Speaker 2: said like, hey, I don't feel this way like I'm
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Speaker 2: except you know, I'm I don't want to be aligned
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Speaker 2: with that kind of ship.
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Speaker 1: Never did it, Never did. It was really based off
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Speaker 1: of what he uh, you know, he was telling me
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Speaker 1: to make the album, based off of his tweets and
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Speaker 1: the stories that he would tell me. So that's what
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Speaker 1: I was doing.
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Speaker 2: When he tells you that Cousin thing, are you like,
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Speaker 2: are you sure you want this out there?
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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, it took me a while to make that song.
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Speaker 2: It took me a while because that's a pretty vulnerable thing.
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Speaker 1: Told me. I was like, so you want to make
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Speaker 1: a song about this? He's like no, And then then
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Speaker 1: he comes back to me later and says, yes, knew
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Speaker 1: the song, and I kept putting it off. I'm like, uh, well,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I could do that, but here's
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Speaker 1: this other song.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, try this one.
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Speaker 1: You try this one here, and then uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: finally he was just like, look I really need this.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, alright, fuck it.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean the ham Hitler song is the
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Speaker 2: one that I mean that just caused the whole ster
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Speaker 2: in Miami when they played it in the club.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that'sh It's that's just pretty crazy.
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Speaker 2: It's such a crazy instrumental.
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Speaker 1: It's anti CZ.
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Speaker 2: What about for you? Like, because Yay was trying to
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Speaker 2: get you with his trainer and ship right, like was
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Speaker 2: he like? I mean, you guys had a genuine friendship.
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Speaker 2: Is there is there something there to be repaired? You
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Speaker 2: think now that you kind of feel like you might
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Speaker 2: be in a better place mental I.
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Speaker 1: Mean, shit, bro, you know I don't really hold grudges
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Speaker 1: like that. I try not to, but I mean shit,
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Speaker 1: I just kind of feel like he's on his own path.
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Speaker 1: I'm on my path. You know what I'm saying, Like, Bro,
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Speaker 1: I've you Like. The thing is, I never want to
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Speaker 1: be like a nigga like digital nas like a serial
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Speaker 1: dick rider, right, you know what I'm saying, Like he
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Speaker 1: only as like success from working with you, you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And he's like just like he's like
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Speaker 1: an he's like a runt dog, like that's getting like
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Speaker 1: just sucking on the teeth of Kanye. I never want
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Speaker 1: to be that type of nigga to anybody, let alone
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Speaker 1: you know, somebody who I looked up to. You know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And I'm only saying that because he
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Speaker 1: came out and said something about me and I don't
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Speaker 1: even really know the nigga, but uh yeah, I never
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Speaker 1: want to like for people to say that like I'm
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Speaker 1: using him, or that like him, that I need him
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Speaker 1: or he made me, which is not the case. You know,
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Speaker 1: I had already signed a deal a year before I
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Speaker 1: met Ye, already bought my mom a car, took care
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Speaker 1: of families, all that shit before I met him, So
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Speaker 1: so like for people, So you know, I just don't
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Speaker 1: want people to have that envision of that I'm using
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Speaker 1: him or that I you know, anything like that. So yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's just I want to pave my own lane, you know,
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Speaker 1: which is what I was doing before. If anything, that
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Speaker 1: shit kind of just like, uh yeah, I would say.
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Speaker 2: You're probably I mean you in that world then, and
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Speaker 2: you're like all right, well fuck, I'm with the most influential.
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Speaker 1: Artist, yeah you know, and uh so yeah, I really
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Speaker 1: just want to pave my own way, you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: Do you feel like at that time he truly believed
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Speaker 2: the ship that like he was saying, or was it
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Speaker 2: because I feel like so much of what Yay does
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Speaker 2: the messaging is so fucked up, and he also understands
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Speaker 2: the power of like shocking off. That makes sense.
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Speaker 1: Well, I definitely don't want to speak for the nigga
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Speaker 1: because I don't truly know, but if I was to
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Speaker 1: take somewhat of an estimated guess or some shit, I mean,
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Speaker 1: he was manic at the time, you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: and uh shit, so was I you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: So it's like you take two manic people who he
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Speaker 1: says controversial things, I say controversial things. That shit's just
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Speaker 1: bound to fucking crazy. Yeah, so you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: But you know, I like, yeah, it's just we were
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Speaker 1: both very manic at the time.
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Speaker 2: And do you feel like you being behind those records
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Speaker 2: has negatively affected any of your opportunities behind the scenes
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Speaker 2: at all.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's a great question, and I'm gonna answer that
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Speaker 1: the way that, like I've always answered that question is
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Speaker 1: if nobody wants to work with me based off the
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Speaker 1: things that I say, then I don't want to work
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Speaker 1: with them, you know what I'm saying, Because I know
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Speaker 1: I don't have any sort of evil intent and whatever
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Speaker 1: is meant for me is gonna happen no matter what.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, I've already apologized the things that
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Speaker 1: I did, and it was from a sincere place, you know,
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Speaker 1: and my fans and people who really rock with me
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Speaker 1: know that, Yeah, I'm not I'm not an evil person
16:45
Speaker 1: or whatever. You know what I'm saying. So yeah, once again, sorry,
16:50
Speaker 1: And yeah, man, I just think that if nobody wants
16:54
Speaker 1: to work with me based off the things that I'm
16:55
Speaker 1: gonna say, I've always been in the place of you know,
16:58
Speaker 1: before I even came in the end, I knew like
17:01
Speaker 1: the music that I make is pretty crazy, and the
17:04
Speaker 1: path that I'm taking is going to be harder, but
17:07
Speaker 1: in the end it's going to be better because that
17:09
Speaker 1: means I didn't dick suck my way to the top.
17:11
Speaker 1: I didn't dick ride anybody. I did it my own
17:14
Speaker 1: way and I paved my own lane. That's what I
17:17
Speaker 1: want to do. I don't want to be just a
17:19
Speaker 1: fucking I don't want to name any names right now,
17:21
Speaker 1: but I don't want to be just the type of
17:23
Speaker 1: artist that just like you know, they just do everything
17:26
Speaker 1: by the numbers. You know what I'm saying, risk freshman album,
17:30
Speaker 1: sophomore album, all that don't take any sort of risk,
17:33
Speaker 1: and they're just like a working artist. I don't want
17:36
Speaker 1: to be a working artist. I want to be somebody
17:38
Speaker 1: great who paved the lane. You know what I'm saying.
17:40
Speaker 2: Do you I feel like you're somebody who I can
17:42
Speaker 2: see like eventually like getting into like writing a movie
17:45
Speaker 2: or writing a sitcom or some shit like building out
17:48
Speaker 2: your universe a little bit more visually. Is that something
17:50
Speaker 2: that you would ever do?
17:51
Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, But I'm taking the baby steps and doing that,
17:54
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Because you know, film is
17:56
Speaker 1: something that I really appreciate for sure. You know, I
17:59
Speaker 1: love movie and I watched documentaries and how movies are made.
18:02
Speaker 1: I watched the fucking DVD commentaries with the movie.
18:07
Speaker 2: DVD commentary was a vibe a hell yeah.
18:09
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I've seen hell of DVD commentaries. But you know,
18:12
Speaker 1: so when it comes to film, I definitely want to
18:14
Speaker 1: do something like you know, writing and directing and shit
18:18
Speaker 1: like that. But I'm taking the baby steps and really
18:21
Speaker 1: put it in the the hours that it takes to
18:23
Speaker 1: be great at that. So I'm starting off with like
18:25
Speaker 1: my music, my music videos and just making them just
18:30
Speaker 1: like very cinematic, you know, my past. I want to
18:34
Speaker 1: say two videos that I've shot I've been like really
18:37
Speaker 1: fucking cinematic, like you know, the fifty cent disc video
18:40
Speaker 1: that shit. I put a lot of time and effort
18:42
Speaker 1: into just that video. You know, that was like a
18:45
Speaker 1: three day shoot and each day was like eight hours.
18:48
Speaker 2: Was that the longest video that you've had?
18:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, that definitely was. Yeah. And then the one after that,
18:53
Speaker 1: I was fucking for a song I had called Bigger
18:56
Speaker 1: where I was like Godzilla and shit, that was like
18:59
Speaker 1: I think a two days shoot as well.
19:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, the fifty one you like recreated in the club Ship.
19:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was was a couple of his
19:07
Speaker 1: videos that I recreated in that one, and then I
19:10
Speaker 1: just I just shot one that I haven't released yet,
19:13
Speaker 1: but it's pretty much. The video is like my interpretation
19:16
Speaker 1: of mister and missus Smith Fire, like if it was Niggas.
19:21
Speaker 2: By the way, great show and movie. It was a
19:24
Speaker 2: little series. They did a series too.
19:25
Speaker 1: They did. I've seen the series. It was. It was
19:27
Speaker 1: not the movie was Fire though, yeah, the movie, But
19:30
Speaker 1: in this video. You know, in the movie, you know,
19:32
Speaker 1: there are two assassins who get a sign to kill
19:34
Speaker 1: each other and they just so happen to be married, right,
19:36
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But in this one, you know,
19:38
Speaker 1: the one, my interpretation of it in my music video
19:41
Speaker 1: is my girl comes home, catches me with some other
19:44
Speaker 1: girls and she tries to you know, she ups the
19:47
Speaker 1: gun on me and up a gun on her and
19:49
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19:52
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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: After that though, you did have a very successful like
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Speaker 2: show run, like you were in I saw some footage
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Speaker 2: of you when you were in Arizona, Like what was
21:17
Speaker 2: hitting the road like for the first time, like headlining
21:19
Speaker 2: like in that way? What was that? I had to
21:21
Speaker 2: feel good.
21:22
Speaker 1: It felt it felt great like the shows, but I
21:27
Speaker 1: was just very sick at the time and I needed
21:30
Speaker 1: to go to the hospital and I knew I needed to,
21:32
Speaker 1: but I'm like, let me tough it out to the
21:33
Speaker 1: end of the tour. But I couldn't. I couldn't. I
21:36
Speaker 1: didn't wasn't able to finish the tour, which is unfortunate
21:38
Speaker 1: because the whole thing was sold out. The whole tour
21:41
Speaker 1: was sold out, so I think it was a total
21:44
Speaker 1: of fifteen shows. I think I got through like seven
21:47
Speaker 1: before I had to cancel, which is very unfortunate, and
21:50
Speaker 1: that shit like really distraught me. I didn't even cancel
21:54
Speaker 1: it to like the I was in the hospital, still
21:56
Speaker 1: saying I'm gonna get out of here and finish it,
21:58
Speaker 1: but they was like, man, you don't have to stay
22:00
Speaker 1: here for a couple of weeks. I'm like, fuck, So
22:02
Speaker 1: that shit, like really hurt me that I had to
22:05
Speaker 1: cancel the tour.
22:06
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you'll ever be able to do
22:09
Speaker 2: like a long tour and with with without kind of
22:13
Speaker 2: getting your health kind of super realed in.
22:15
Speaker 1: Well, well, the plan is to get my health super
22:19
Speaker 1: realed in so that way I can do yeah things,
22:21
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I think I owe
22:23
Speaker 1: it to myself and the fans to do that. You
22:27
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because you know, anything that I do,
22:30
Speaker 1: I release music or post a picture, they're always like, bro,
22:33
Speaker 1: you got to go on another tour. You know, you
22:35
Speaker 1: got to go another tour. And I'm just like, man,
22:37
Speaker 1: I want to, but I gotta.
22:38
Speaker 2: I never want to be you don't want to do
22:39
Speaker 2: that again? Yeah, where I.
22:41
Speaker 1: Cancel that shit? You know what I'm saying. So, yeah,
22:43
Speaker 1: I just really just got to get my health right.
22:45
Speaker 2: Have you thought about, not even to be funny, have
22:47
Speaker 2: you thought about doing ozempic.
22:49
Speaker 1: I've thought about a lot of things.
22:51
Speaker 2: Because I know, like fat Jo did ozepic and they say, like,
22:55
Speaker 2: obviously there's side effects of ozepic, but a lot of
22:57
Speaker 2: people are like, yo, if you're like a certain weight,
22:59
Speaker 2: like it's a lot. The risk of taking oz empic
23:02
Speaker 2: is a lot less higher than if you are you know, unhealthy,
23:07
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But I don't know. It's
23:09
Speaker 2: supposed to sup pressure. I know some people on oz empic,
23:12
Speaker 2: A lot of people losing weight.
23:14
Speaker 1: Man, Hell yeah, so I've heard.
23:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of You saw Jelly Row.
23:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a crazy transformation.
23:20
Speaker 2: He looks like a new guy. My guy looks like
23:23
Speaker 2: he year and a half lost like two hundred pounds
23:27
Speaker 2: or something like that. That's crazy for you is like this,
23:31
Speaker 2: like what what is your Like how often are you
23:34
Speaker 2: in the studio because I feel like you're in the
23:36
Speaker 2: studio a lot, Like are you are you always kind
23:39
Speaker 2: of in like creative mode or do you kind of
23:40
Speaker 2: set aside? Like all right, this weekend, I got to
23:42
Speaker 2: get in and knock out a certain amount of songs.
23:44
Speaker 1: Uh, That's how I was went last year, you know,
23:48
Speaker 1: every year before this year. But I you know, just
23:52
Speaker 1: like when I had to go to the hospital and
23:54
Speaker 1: all that, like I prioritized my career over my health.
23:58
Speaker 1: Like I wasn't doing anything for myself. I was doing
24:02
Speaker 1: all this shit for fans, people, me, family, and I
24:07
Speaker 1: was focusing on those things instead of myself. So it
24:11
Speaker 1: was like I'd go to the studio and be in
24:12
Speaker 1: there for like nine hours, not come go in sundown,
24:17
Speaker 1: not come until the sun is up, you know what
24:19
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and then go to sleep for a couple
24:22
Speaker 1: of hours, wake up, and then do that whole shit
24:25
Speaker 1: all over again. So I really just had to realize
24:28
Speaker 1: that I don't need to do that all the time,
24:30
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I don't need to go
24:31
Speaker 1: in the studio and make nine songs. If I go
24:34
Speaker 1: in the studio, I'm in there for four hours and
24:37
Speaker 1: I come out with one or two really great songs.
24:41
Speaker 2: Yes, it's almost like that, put more into each song
24:43
Speaker 2: to make each song better exactly.
24:45
Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's what I've been doing. And I've also
24:47
Speaker 1: been working on like producing and shit, like making beats,
24:51
Speaker 1: so for other artists, uh yeah, and for other artists
24:54
Speaker 1: and myself. Yeah.
24:55
Speaker 2: I mean I feel like if you make beats for yourself,
24:57
Speaker 2: it's the smartest thing to do, yeah, because then ain't
24:59
Speaker 2: got to worry about splits. Yeah, I feel like that's
25:02
Speaker 2: the hardest thing is especially you're independent like you Okay, Fuck,
25:05
Speaker 2: I got a record, I love it, and then the
25:07
Speaker 2: producer can always try to hit you upside the head
25:09
Speaker 2: and you're like.
25:10
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, hell yeah. So that's why I usually, uh,
25:13
Speaker 1: you know, working lock in with like one or two
25:15
Speaker 1: producers when I'm working on my albums. Right now, I've
25:17
Speaker 1: been working with this producer. He's from Belgium.
25:20
Speaker 2: His name is Victor, really real, Victor from Belgium.
25:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, Victor, Yeah, Victor, good kid, good kid. So yeah,
25:28
Speaker 1: we've been Me and him, have been making beats together of.
25:31
Speaker 2: Him over the internet.
25:32
Speaker 1: No, I I met him at one of those pitch
25:35
Speaker 1: sessions in last Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, we've been locked
25:40
Speaker 1: in since like like June July, and my album I've
25:45
Speaker 1: been working on it since then, and I finally just
25:48
Speaker 1: got it to the place to where I know what
25:49
Speaker 1: I want the sound to be like. I went through
25:53
Speaker 1: a bunch of different phases on what I want the
25:54
Speaker 1: sound to be like, but I finally got it, like
25:57
Speaker 1: locked in and I'm working on it.
25:59
Speaker 2: Is a necessry youre going to be on the albums.
26:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, you see, And that's kind of like you know,
26:03
Speaker 1: that beat. It's kind of like a mixture of it's
26:07
Speaker 1: a mixture of a couple of different genres it's a
26:08
Speaker 1: mixture of like jerk music. You know, jerk music is obviously, yeah, okay,
26:12
Speaker 1: hell yeah, so jerk coast jerk music.
26:14
Speaker 2: You're talking about the time of music. You jerk off
26:16
Speaker 2: too with your friends. No, no, no, not that everybody's
26:19
Speaker 2: herouded by the computer and like we all jerk off
26:22
Speaker 2: to the same point of video.
26:23
Speaker 1: No, that's not not that jerk not that jerk music.
26:26
Speaker 2: Now West Coast dance jerk music, yes, yeah, okay.
26:29
Speaker 1: A mixture of jerk music, a mixture of rage, yeah,
26:33
Speaker 1: and I call it jerk rage rage.
26:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, jerk I used to call it too.
26:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then also like a mixture of like like
26:41
Speaker 1: twenty ten party music like LMFAO and shit.
26:45
Speaker 2: Yeah.
26:45
Speaker 1: So if you hear that song Unnecessary, you hear that beat,
26:48
Speaker 1: it's kind of similar. It's like a mixture of those
26:50
Speaker 1: three things. I call it jerk rage.
26:51
Speaker 2: Bro Jerk rage is its own sub genre now, yeah.
26:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, I created it. So if you hear niggas with
26:57
Speaker 1: that sound, you hear niggas saying jerk rage. It was
26:59
Speaker 1: for me.
27:00
Speaker 2: What like, you obviously have to have a lot of
27:02
Speaker 2: inspiration outside of hip hop. What were like, were you
27:05
Speaker 2: into like what rock bands were you listening to?
27:07
Speaker 1: Well, I was listening to a lot of like alternative rock,
27:10
Speaker 1: you know, from like the early two thousands, Like I
27:13
Speaker 1: love Green Day, I love Coldplay, I love Lincoln Park
27:18
Speaker 1: of course. Yeah, like like that. Those those are my three.
27:23
Speaker 2: Cold Play got some ship?
27:24
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Coldplay does hell.
27:26
Speaker 2: Their production is fucking crazy.
27:29
Speaker 1: Their videos and fire to the videos is just one guy.
27:32
Speaker 1: It's just the v guy VA whatever. That's my that's
27:37
Speaker 1: that brother.
27:39
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like growing up in Iowa, there's no
27:41
Speaker 2: way to avoid getting into those bands.
27:44
Speaker 1: In something now, there's there's no way to avoid it.
27:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you ever like walk down to like the
27:50
Speaker 2: shitty rock band road like where you were like, oh,
27:53
Speaker 2: you know, uh, Kryptonite is not too bad. But three
27:56
Speaker 2: Doors Down or Nickelback's got some ship.
27:59
Speaker 1: Not up with those two bands too. They got Shiitvy,
28:02
Speaker 1: three Doors Down, they got that.
28:04
Speaker 2: Resting piece of the guy he's the fucking They got
28:07
Speaker 2: the spider Man song, the Kryptonite, the Superman song, Superman,
28:13
Speaker 2: the Hold in My Hand, they got they each one
28:19
Speaker 2: of those bands really great white strip club music, the Thrush,
28:26
Speaker 2: the gt A. Well you've been to the strip club
28:28
Speaker 2: in g T a Yeah. The way the girls dance,
28:30
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28:36
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Speaker 2: the podcast. Any features on the album, No, no, because
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Speaker 2: I feel like you're always taking pictures with people, Like
29:49
Speaker 2: I saw your like I was hoping you and Ty
29:51
Speaker 2: would have some shit like.
29:53
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, you know, we've been working on a
29:55
Speaker 1: lot of shit. But yeah, I really just I don't know, man.
29:59
Speaker 2: They're not a big future guy in general, and.
30:01
Speaker 1: I could have any feature that I that I wanted.
30:04
Speaker 1: I just you know, when it comes to my albums,
30:06
Speaker 1: I just I like to it's me telling my story.
30:11
Speaker 1: It's my life at the time, So I don't think that,
30:14
Speaker 1: you know, It's just like I don't think anybody could
30:17
Speaker 1: tell my story the way I can, or just like
30:20
Speaker 1: just for the sake of like, oh, it would be
30:22
Speaker 1: good if I had this person on my album, like
30:25
Speaker 1: you know, like if there's a way to do that,
30:28
Speaker 1: like to make music with them and release it, it
30:31
Speaker 1: would just have to be not a part of my album.
30:35
Speaker 2: That makes sense, Like a one off a single word
30:36
Speaker 2: on there.
30:37
Speaker 1: Something like that. Yeah, I'd be down for that. But
30:39
Speaker 1: as far as my albums, I like to keep it myself.
30:41
Speaker 1: Like I said, I really just want to build my
30:43
Speaker 1: own shit up. Never want anybody to be able to
30:45
Speaker 1: say that they made me or be able to be
30:47
Speaker 1: indebted to somebody for some shit.
30:50
Speaker 2: So fuck all that. What is your because you are you?
30:55
Speaker 2: Obviously you've you spend your love for movies and do
30:59
Speaker 2: a lot of your album covers and stuff. What is
31:02
Speaker 2: like your Mount Rushmore of film?
31:07
Speaker 1: Okay, so Mount rush warrant film, I got you right
31:09
Speaker 1: here and Mount Rushmore is how many people on there?
31:13
Speaker 1: Let's just so, first I got to play pine Apple.
31:16
Speaker 2: Express, ok this is a great film on all timer
31:20
Speaker 2: all theimer Alzheimer.
31:23
Speaker 1: Number two has to be uh, Django.
31:27
Speaker 2: So good.
31:28
Speaker 1: I love Django. That ship's fucking amazing. Wolf of Wall
31:38
Speaker 1: Street for sure.
31:39
Speaker 2: Made me want to do k lots Yeah hell yeah,
31:42
Speaker 2: it was like where can we get kul yeah Cosby.
31:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah ship. Uh It's okay. So then number four
31:51
Speaker 1: would have to be uh man, I don't know. I
31:57
Speaker 1: just love a lot of movies. It's hard to like
31:59
Speaker 1: put them in the top five. List, but you give
32:01
Speaker 1: me a say. Okay, so we put Django and then.
32:04
Speaker 2: You had that Pineapple Express for Wall Street Shango all
32:07
Speaker 2: three great.
32:12
Speaker 1: Man. I gotta put Inception in there.
32:14
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Inception to Leo movies in there, Leon Leonardo,
32:18
Speaker 2: three le movies, he's in, He's in, Jengo.
32:21
Speaker 1: DiCaprio, Hell yeah, yeah, him and Djengo.
32:27
Speaker 2: That ship's good, bro, he's hell yeah.
32:29
Speaker 1: Soul to the Man with the exceptional beard and the
32:32
Speaker 1: unexceptional nigga. Oh it's a number four. Probably got to
32:43
Speaker 1: put a two thousand and nine Star Trek.
32:47
Speaker 2: Good movie, good movie.
32:48
Speaker 1: Yeah.
32:49
Speaker 2: You know what's crazy is the new Star Trek movies.
32:51
Speaker 2: They don't get talked about it enough.
32:53
Speaker 1: They don't. They're really fucking fucking gas seen each of
32:56
Speaker 1: them in theaters when.
32:56
Speaker 2: They And honestly, I'm not a Star Trek fan, but
32:59
Speaker 2: those movies me either.
33:00
Speaker 1: I'm moving to that ship. But that ship is good.
33:02
Speaker 2: They got the dude from Heroes in there.
33:04
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, helly, Zachary Quinto.
33:06
Speaker 2: Yeah. Great Heroes was hard. I don't know if you
33:09
Speaker 2: ever wear.
33:09
Speaker 1: I never got into it. I never got into it.
33:11
Speaker 2: It was so good, and then the writers strike happened
33:13
Speaker 2: like the old school writers strike, and then it just
33:15
Speaker 2: was yeah, yeah.
33:17
Speaker 1: Let me take exception off there. Number no, so we're
33:20
Speaker 1: at number four. Number four would probably have to be
33:22
Speaker 1: the first Deadpool movie. First Deadpool and then number five
33:33
Speaker 1: Captain America Civil War.
33:35
Speaker 2: You take, so those are your two top Marvel movies.
33:38
Speaker 2: Then in jail, well, I guess those are those are like, well,
33:41
Speaker 2: you can't put the first Deadpool into MCU, even though
33:43
Speaker 2: it's a Marvel comic. It's it's not a but but
33:46
Speaker 2: so soon you put Civil War over any other MCU movie.
33:50
Speaker 1: Man, I feel like it's one of the best ones.
33:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm a I don't know, dude. I think
33:55
Speaker 2: Guardians at the Galaxy three.
33:58
Speaker 1: That one was great. It was great that she made
34:01
Speaker 1: me satisfy. Yeah, and the whole movie.
34:03
Speaker 2: It was the only movie that I could really think
34:05
Speaker 2: of them where they weren't trying to save the world.
34:07
Speaker 2: They were just trying to save their friends.
34:09
Speaker 1: Man. I like Guardians of the Galaxy three. But there's
34:11
Speaker 1: something that James Gunn does in his movies that like
34:15
Speaker 1: is almost like a cheet code. You funk with James.
34:16
Speaker 2: Gunn, of course I got to beat him. He did. Yeah, Yeah,
34:20
Speaker 2: I met him in yeah deal. Yeah, dude, that's crazy.
34:27
Speaker 1: No, but he does this thing in his movies is
34:29
Speaker 1: that he always like like he knows that people love animals,
34:33
Speaker 1: so he some plot in the movie where there's an
34:37
Speaker 1: animal and then like the animal gets hurt.
34:39
Speaker 2: Because he did that in Superman.
34:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, he did do it in Superman.
34:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he did it in Peacemaker with the Eagle.
34:44
Speaker 1: Exactly, exactly exactly.
34:46
Speaker 2: So yeah, so I went to, uh, this past comic
34:49
Speaker 2: Con was in the middle of Johnson. I'm a big
34:52
Speaker 2: wrestling fan, so it was in the middle Johnson seen
34:54
Speaker 2: his retirement run. But I went out there to go
34:55
Speaker 2: to comic Con and they're like, yo, Sena is hosting
34:59
Speaker 2: like a Rivot release thing for Peacemaker season two. So
35:06
Speaker 2: you go in and uh, like it was very very
35:12
Speaker 2: like probably like five hundred people in there, but James
35:15
Speaker 2: Gunn was just kicking it like up on the balcony.
35:17
Speaker 2: I was with my boy sort of strickling his wrestler.
35:19
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was dude, it was cool as fuck.
35:22
Speaker 2: And then do you do you know the band Steel Panther. No, okay, listen,
35:28
Speaker 2: So Steel Panther is the guys to do all the
35:31
Speaker 2: songs in season two, the really offensive song. Listen, dude,
35:34
Speaker 2: We're gonna have a moment because they are the Steel
35:38
Speaker 2: Panther is the Dave Blunts of eighties rock. So they
35:42
Speaker 2: were a cover band and then they started doing their
35:46
Speaker 2: own music and it's all crazy music. This song is
35:52
Speaker 2: called Gloryhole. Oh shit, it's about getting your d We
35:58
Speaker 2: just gotta let them. This is a slap.
36:01
Speaker 1: Yes, bro, these fools are on repub I didn't know this.
36:04
Speaker 2: They're on Universal Republic.
36:05
Speaker 1: There, that's a major, lady.
36:07
Speaker 2: They'm on Drake at the same label.
36:09
Speaker 1: That's crazy. But no, I'm actually glad that you played
36:12
Speaker 1: that because it is very David once, like you said.
36:14
Speaker 1: And then also it's like, man, it's like, uh, you know,
36:20
Speaker 1: all I need is proof of concept, you know what
36:22
Speaker 1: I'm saying. All I need to know is that it
36:24
Speaker 1: happened at one point in time for me to be
36:27
Speaker 1: able to, you know, know that what I'm doing is
36:30
Speaker 1: the correct path, you know what I'm saying.
36:32
Speaker 2: I feel like we kind of saw it in the night.
36:35
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm older than you, but like you know,
36:37
Speaker 2: there's like eminem and like icp insane clown posy had
36:40
Speaker 2: some crazy lyrics about other shit, but like then, I
36:45
Speaker 2: don't do you know who Brother Lynch is? No, oh, man,
36:48
Speaker 2: there's a guy from Sacramento. His name's Brother Lynch Hung. Now,
36:52
Speaker 2: you guys have different subject matter, but he was. He's
36:58
Speaker 2: a legend. Brother Lynch Hung had an entire album rapping
37:02
Speaker 2: about being a cannibal and eating babies.
37:05
Speaker 1: Damn, that's pretty crazy.
37:07
Speaker 2: And this and this album is gold.
37:10
Speaker 1: Damn.
37:10
Speaker 2: This motherfucker was going gold independently in like nineteen ninety five.
37:15
Speaker 1: Damn. Yeah, well that was a different time back then.
37:18
Speaker 2: But it was. It was called horror core rap, which
37:20
Speaker 2: is not what you do. But yeah, bro, it's crazy.
37:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I remember. There was just a time, you know,
37:28
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago that maybe like not even
37:32
Speaker 1: that long ago, maybe like a month ago, where I
37:34
Speaker 1: was in this like a like at a divide of
37:37
Speaker 1: like you know, obviously, people telling me like, oh, you
37:40
Speaker 1: should make your music more commercialized, and I was just like,
37:43
Speaker 1: you know, I want to keep doing what I'm doing.
37:45
Speaker 1: But I'm like, man, I don't really know. I'm kind
37:47
Speaker 1: of at a standstill. I'm not sure what I should
37:50
Speaker 1: if I should keep doing I'm doing, or you know,
37:53
Speaker 1: switch it up and then you know, my girl she
37:56
Speaker 1: listens to like Chyler the Creator And I never really
37:59
Speaker 1: got into his music for real. I don't dislike it.
38:02
Speaker 1: I just never got into I never like I never
38:05
Speaker 1: really heard it for real, you know what I'm saying. So,
38:07
Speaker 1: but she's playing some of his older stuff. I'm like,
38:11
Speaker 1: wait this is and so I kind of just went
38:14
Speaker 1: into like a rabbit hole. I'm like, damn, like this is,
38:18
Speaker 1: this has been done before, you know what I'm saying.
38:21
Speaker 3: Like, and it's like if you want somebody. And the
38:25
Speaker 3: thing is people just think that I just go in there,
38:28
Speaker 3: and I like, you know, and like that's just the
38:33
Speaker 3: you know, that's not the only entire tirety of the
38:36
Speaker 3: music I make, you know what I'm saying. Like I said,
38:38
Speaker 3: I'm a fan of truly. I am like a student
38:41
Speaker 3: and a fan of film. And it's like when you
38:43
Speaker 3: watch a movie trailer, right, you see a movie trailer
38:46
Speaker 3: and it's the best parts of the movie, like not
38:49
Speaker 3: the best parts, but the parts that they know will
38:51
Speaker 3: grab you.
38:52
Speaker 1: Gun fight, gun shooting scenes, uh, maybe a sex scene
38:56
Speaker 1: in there, car explosion. You're like, damn, I kind of
38:59
Speaker 1: got to see that much but then when you watch
39:02
Speaker 1: the movie, you're like, Wow, this is that and much more.
39:05
Speaker 1: It's way better. They're not gonna put the fucking scene
39:09
Speaker 1: of Leonardo DiCaprio dying at the end of the movie
39:12
Speaker 1: in the trailer, of course. You see what I'm saying.
39:14
Speaker 1: So that's why you know. You hear my songs that
39:16
Speaker 1: I drop unnecessary, you hear the N word, the F word,
39:20
Speaker 1: and then you hear another song that's crazy. You're like, shit, man,
39:24
Speaker 1: I gotta check out this album. This shit sounds crazy.
39:26
Speaker 1: But you're like, wait, whoa, It's not just slurs. There's
39:29
Speaker 1: deeper meanings in here. He's making songs about being depressed
39:33
Speaker 1: or you know him and the things that he's got
39:36
Speaker 1: going on in his life. It's not just the slurs.
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Speaker 2: you see yourself? I mean you mentioned Tyler. Tyler's done
41:15
Speaker 2: a really good job of evolving, and like it hasn't
41:18
Speaker 2: really been in the last four or five years where
41:21
Speaker 2: Tyler's like crossed over. It started with the Ego album,
41:24
Speaker 2: right exactly.
41:24
Speaker 1: But it's like evolving.
41:26
Speaker 2: But it's evolving. But do you care to have that
41:29
Speaker 2: level of success where like you could get in a
41:30
Speaker 2: car and hear your music on the radio.
41:33
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I do, Yes, And that's what I'm saying.
41:36
Speaker 1: It's like there needs to there's a difference between changing
41:43
Speaker 1: and evolving. You know what I'm saying. Nobody likes change.
41:47
Speaker 1: Nobody does. Even niggas be like, oh I do like change. No,
41:50
Speaker 1: you don't, because if something if your girls to break
41:52
Speaker 1: up with you right now, nigga, you be snop bubble crying,
41:54
Speaker 1: right You see what I'm saying. So it's like nobody
41:57
Speaker 1: likes change. But if you slowly change aka evolve over time,
42:06
Speaker 1: then it's like you know what I'm saying. If I
42:08
Speaker 1: came out today, it was very commercial my next few
42:10
Speaker 1: three songs I dropped was very commercials Niggas would not
42:13
Speaker 1: fuck with that shit. They'd be like, bro, who made
42:15
Speaker 1: you do this? Right? You know what I'm saying. The
42:16
Speaker 1: fans could always buy through that.
42:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, people don't want to feel like you flip the switch.
42:20
Speaker 1: Exactly, So it needs to be a gradual change. It's like, yeah, man,
42:25
Speaker 1: the shit that I'm the unnecessary song is not my
42:29
Speaker 1: most crazy song ever. I've said way more crazier, crazier,
42:33
Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying. So it needs to be
42:34
Speaker 1: a gradual change. Hey, last time I said three slurs,
42:37
Speaker 1: this time I said two. Next time I'll say one,
42:40
Speaker 1: and the next time I'll say zero. But it needs
42:42
Speaker 1: to be a gradual change. You can't just be overnight. Yeah.
42:48
Speaker 1: And then also it's like to the point to where
42:51
Speaker 1: you're saying, don't you want to be able to, you know,
42:54
Speaker 1: people to get in the car and hear your shit
42:56
Speaker 1: on the radio? Yeah? I think I believe in May
43:00
Speaker 1: I'm just a crazy nigga, bro, but I believe the
43:02
Speaker 1: shit that I'm making now could possibly make it to radio. Nigga.
43:06
Speaker 1: They had a whole bunch of crazy ass songs. They
43:08
Speaker 1: just put bleeps or mark the words out of on
43:10
Speaker 1: the radio. Big Seawan's first song was ass. Right, that
43:14
Speaker 1: shit was all over the radio. What did they do
43:16
Speaker 1: with the radio version? They changed dance exact dance. So
43:19
Speaker 1: this shit is possible, you know what I'm saying. Nigga's
43:21
Speaker 1: first song was ass.
43:22
Speaker 2: What would you swap out the word for in the
43:24
Speaker 2: clean version? Just bleep it, rabbit, Just bleep it.
43:27
Speaker 1: You know that. It doesn't have to do nothing. Just
43:28
Speaker 1: bleep that shit. You know what I'm saying. It doesn't
43:30
Speaker 1: have to be anything. Maybe rabbit, that's possible. Yeah, but yeah,
43:34
Speaker 1: I'm saying it's it's ah but yeah, man, it's like
43:37
Speaker 1: I want to pave my own way. I want to
43:38
Speaker 1: be able to say, Damn, I can't believe that this
43:40
Speaker 1: nigga did that, because that's what I've been doing the
43:42
Speaker 1: whole time in the game. Damn. I can't believe that
43:44
Speaker 1: this nigga is selling out shows. Damn. I can't believe
43:47
Speaker 1: that this nigga is actually standing up at it show. Damn.
43:50
Speaker 1: I can't believe that this nigga blew up. You know
43:52
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So that's that's what I've been doing.
43:55
Speaker 2: Who are you listening to right now? Like, is there
43:57
Speaker 2: anybody who's got your inspired currently or anybody who obviously
44:00
Speaker 2: just just are a fan of at the moment.
44:04
Speaker 1: Mmm? Uh, I fuck with this artist? Uh yeah, there
44:10
Speaker 1: actually is a few people who I've been listening to.
44:13
Speaker 1: H I fuck with other artist named Jace. It's pretty fire. Yeah,
44:19
Speaker 1: got you, It's good. Okay, So this artist named Jace
44:27
Speaker 1: been listening to a lot of like older Eminem songs.
44:29
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know what I'm saying. I really really
44:31
Speaker 1: fucked with the you know, the shit he was making,
44:34
Speaker 1: you know when he first came out and.
44:35
Speaker 2: Shit, yeah, if you just listen to Kill You by
44:38
Speaker 2: Eminem and realized that that album won Grammy's and he
44:42
Speaker 2: talked about raping his mom, it's a.
44:44
Speaker 1: Lot of crazy shit. It is a lot of crazy shit,
44:47
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I
44:48
Speaker 1: just need proof of concept that had happened before. I
44:51
Speaker 1: don't care if that shit was in nineteen thirty eighteen twelve.
44:55
Speaker 1: The fact that it ever happened lets me know, iright,
44:58
Speaker 1: I can do that shit. So yeah, uh, and then
45:01
Speaker 1: who what other artists like I said, I've listened to
45:03
Speaker 1: a lot of cold Play and a lot of a
45:08
Speaker 1: lot of Green Day as well.
45:09
Speaker 2: Green Day, Man, it has to be an honor or
45:15
Speaker 2: not to make it into a Cat Williams Stand Up Special.
45:19
Speaker 1: Well man, you know the thing is with that is like,
45:22
Speaker 1: you know, it's coming the same thing with the Snoop
45:25
Speaker 1: Dogg thing and you know all these other things. It's like,
45:28
Speaker 1: people are like, bro, he mentioned you on his thing,
45:30
Speaker 1: but it's like, yeah, it's like but he spat on
45:32
Speaker 1: me though, you know what I'm saying. So it's like
45:35
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, that's cool, but like I wish it
45:38
Speaker 1: was in a better circumstance. And at the same time,
45:41
Speaker 1: he is a comedian, so you know he does it
45:44
Speaker 1: is that's what he does. But it's like, I don't know,
45:47
Speaker 1: like I've never seen him to put somebody's fucking picture
45:50
Speaker 1: on the screen.
45:50
Speaker 2: I've never seen that either, you know what I'm saying.
45:52
Speaker 1: It's like, and I was seeing that he was touring
45:54
Speaker 1: that act for like at least a year, so I.
45:56
Speaker 2: Was seeing, oh you had seen it. Yeah, he was
45:58
Speaker 2: on the road.
45:58
Speaker 1: Performing a Cardinal Carnival cruises and shit, they got like
46:02
Speaker 1: picture of me on them. I'm like, God, damn.
46:04
Speaker 2: Damn, you've been getting that dated bunch joke off for
46:07
Speaker 2: a year or now.
46:08
Speaker 1: For a while. Yeah, and it wasn't even really that funny.
46:10
Speaker 1: He it took ship that people said in the comments,
46:12
Speaker 1: and I've seen funnier things in the comments, you know
46:15
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I'm like, this wasn't even very
46:18
Speaker 1: much thought put into this joke. He's like, if I
46:20
Speaker 1: put this nigga's picture on screen and say whatever, they'll laugh.
46:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you aren't, like you're still kind of like
46:27
Speaker 2: an underground artist. Yeah, but you're also like I mean,
46:30
Speaker 2: when you make it into a catwaias one of the
46:32
Speaker 2: grades of all time, if you make it into his
46:33
Speaker 2: special that you're making your you're penetrating like culture in
46:37
Speaker 2: a way that like not a lot of people can
46:40
Speaker 2: for worse.
46:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been I've been doing that shit. So it's like,
46:42
Speaker 1: you know, that Cat Williams thing was like just another
46:45
Speaker 1: notch under my belt for real. But yeah, yeah, I
46:49
Speaker 1: mean it is what it is, you know what I'm saying, Like,
46:51
Speaker 1: you know, he said that about me, and then you know,
46:55
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, that n he got beat up
46:56
Speaker 1: by twelve year old kids.
46:58
Speaker 2: So it's like, yeah he did. Yeah, yeah, he reads
47:01
Speaker 2: a lot though from what he he they say he read.
47:04
Speaker 2: He reads like he used to say he. I think
47:07
Speaker 2: he was on interviews saying he reads like thirty books
47:09
Speaker 2: a day or something.
47:10
Speaker 1: Thirty books a day.
47:11
Speaker 2: It was like a preposterous amount that would be physically Yeah,
47:15
Speaker 2: I gotta physically impossible.
47:16
Speaker 1: After a twelve year old puts you in a chokehold
47:18
Speaker 1: on the ground, nigg you gotta rethink your whole life.
47:20
Speaker 1: This is true. Yeah, he's probably trying to search for
47:22
Speaker 1: the answering the books. Shit yo, I set up on
47:27
Speaker 1: my Instagram. I said he got reverse Epstein. The kids
47:30
Speaker 1: violated him.
47:31
Speaker 2: Damn the reverse Epstein. You gotta do a I feel
47:37
Speaker 2: like you gotta have it. Uh. These Epstein files have
47:40
Speaker 2: been crazy. I feel like you gotta be cooking up
47:41
Speaker 2: a pretty crazy Epstein bar.
47:43
Speaker 1: A lot of people have been asking me that I
47:45
Speaker 1: don't necessarily like I haven't been thinking about that for real,
47:49
Speaker 1: not not really, but a lot of people have been
47:51
Speaker 1: asking me, like anytime something crazy happens, like the fans
47:56
Speaker 1: or people like, hey man, you gotta you gotta put
47:57
Speaker 1: this in a song. I'm like why, Like, I'm not
48:00
Speaker 1: a fucking like you know what, I man, I'll like
48:03
Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamar do that ship, you know what I mean?
48:05
Speaker 1: That's like some activism shit. Bro.
48:07
Speaker 2: You know, so were you So I'm assuming you're a
48:11
Speaker 2: big Saints Row guy, uh, because you have the Saints
48:15
Speaker 2: Row bar in this I'm assuming that was I played it,
48:19
Speaker 2: but it was they all wore purple in Saint tro Yeah.
48:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just thought it was a pretty cool bar.
48:24
Speaker 1: But I played. I was more of a GTA fan though.
48:26
Speaker 2: There was the one Saints Row game I think it
48:29
Speaker 2: was three where you're like there's like a level where
48:35
Speaker 2: you jump out of a fucking plane and Kanye's powers
48:39
Speaker 2: playing while you like are like pulling your power ship.
48:42
Speaker 1: I think that's the That was the one where they
48:45
Speaker 1: had like the dildo swords and ship.
48:47
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, that fucking they.
48:49
Speaker 1: They like ruined that franchise. I don't know why they
48:51
Speaker 1: thought like having like dildo swords and dildo guns was
48:54
Speaker 1: a good idea.
48:55
Speaker 2: Who's Taylor Nicole?
48:58
Speaker 1: Oh that's a bitch where I'm from, though, it was
49:00
Speaker 1: just like a who damns like a well known hole.
49:05
Speaker 1: So yeah, when I said I I think my double
49:07
Speaker 1: cup is dirty, just like tailoring Nicole. That's like a
49:09
Speaker 1: shout out to the people back home.
49:10
Speaker 2: Do you think she's heard that?
49:12
Speaker 1: Probably, she's probably heard a lot of shit.
49:16
Speaker 2: How do you know she was getting passed around like
49:19
Speaker 2: the village bicycle.
49:20
Speaker 1: Man, it was just like she just had got expected
49:22
Speaker 1: like bro, just man. There's just so much evidence. Bro.
49:27
Speaker 1: When people hear that, hey, you're lying on her now,
49:30
Speaker 1: they're gonna be like, damn, that ship is true and
49:31
Speaker 1: it's pretty fire. So yeah, but I'm always doing that
49:34
Speaker 1: in my music, like giving a little shout out and
49:37
Speaker 1: ship to back back home that people back home will understand.
49:40
Speaker 2: How often do you get back home?
49:43
Speaker 1: Uh? Ship? Since I've been out here, I've gone back
49:48
Speaker 1: at least once one time each year. Yeah, so it
49:51
Speaker 1: looks like I'm due for that visit back home this year.
49:54
Speaker 2: I mean she's probably cold right now though, oh.
49:56
Speaker 1: Hell yeah yeah yeah. I don't want to deal with
50:00
Speaker 1: the snow and shit fuck all that.
50:01
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, not when is Do you have any idea
50:05
Speaker 2: when the album's coming out or do we got an
50:06
Speaker 2: album title?
50:07
Speaker 1: Uh? I got the title for you. I don't know
50:08
Speaker 1: when it's coming out there because I'm still cooking that shit. Uh.
50:12
Speaker 1: The title of the album is I'll believe it when
50:13
Speaker 1: I see it, Okay, you know, I believe that's just
50:16
Speaker 1: I feel like the era of my life that I'm
50:19
Speaker 1: in right now. A lot of people just you know, uh,
50:22
Speaker 1: you know, like, oh, this isn't considered lose weight. I'll
50:24
Speaker 1: believe when I see it, you know what I'm saying, Like,
50:26
Speaker 1: just a lot of this just feels like a lot
50:28
Speaker 1: of a thing. This just feels like the air in
50:31
Speaker 1: my life that I'm in right now, just like you know,
50:34
Speaker 1: proving myself on things that I've already proven to I've done,
50:41
Speaker 1: and also things that I haven't done yet.
50:42
Speaker 2: Right, So yeah, do you I always wonder this because
50:47
Speaker 2: there's so many artists who if you think of a
50:50
Speaker 2: guy like Wisk Khalifa, like Wis Kalifa is so heavily
50:52
Speaker 2: associated with being a pothead that like if he ever
50:56
Speaker 2: quit smoking, people would be like, yo, what the fuck?
51:00
Speaker 2: And I feel like your biggest song is I Can't
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Speaker 2: be down a cup. Do you feel like your image
51:06
Speaker 2: is like tied to sip and lean to a point
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Speaker 2: where it's like a part of your image now, Like.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess maybe to like people who aren't
51:18
Speaker 1: necessarily really tapped into me. But people who are tapped
51:21
Speaker 1: in thos that I stopped doing that shit last year
51:24
Speaker 1: and I haven't really been promoting that shit at all. Yeah,
51:26
Speaker 1: so you know, I guess it's just like it's I
51:29
Speaker 1: don't really. It's like with those types of things, you
51:33
Speaker 1: just have to keep pushing the narrative that you want
51:35
Speaker 1: to push and do it to where people catch on. Right,
51:39
Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying, Like, Hey, niggas either
51:43
Speaker 1: catch on or they don't. I'm still just gonna be me.
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Speaker 2: Was it pretty pretty easy for you to get off?
51:48
Speaker 1: Uh?
51:48
Speaker 2: No, because there's like withdrawals and shit.
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Speaker 1: No, it's pretty bad, but niggas got through it.
51:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to be tough, man. I know a
51:55
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of my homies who've gotten off it,
51:56
Speaker 2: they're like, yo, it's rough, very like painful.
52:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I've been doing way more painful shit broll.
52:04
Speaker 2: You know what motherfuckers will do now is like they'll
52:06
Speaker 2: do kratum from the smoke shops. There's like this shit
52:10
Speaker 2: called kratum that's supposed to like help you with withdraws,
52:13
Speaker 2: but then they get addicted to cratum. Have you heard
52:15
Speaker 2: of kratum?
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Speaker 1: Not Doug.
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Speaker 2: It's like an herb that is like if you anytime
52:19
Speaker 2: you go to a smoke shop, they got like fifty
52:21
Speaker 2: different versions of this shit and motherfuckers be createmed out.
52:27
Speaker 2: Yeah no, stay off the createum man, Hey, we got
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Speaker 1: Just you know, just working on the album music videos.
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Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm putting a lot of thought into them,
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Speaker 1: and you know, I'm getting ready to shoot one to
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Speaker 1: and uh yeah, man, just you know, just working on
53:21
Speaker 1: my health album.
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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, could you see yourself be like, because the
53:30
Speaker 2: streaming thing has been so big for so many people,
53:32
Speaker 2: like guys like blue Face are doing it a lot
53:33
Speaker 2: more like howbously you do the streaming thing? But could
53:35
Speaker 2: you see yourself like streaming in like a real like
53:39
Speaker 2: you know, certain amount of because a lot of people
53:41
Speaker 2: who do it, they do it like it's a fucking job.
53:44
Speaker 2: I feel like you translate great, just talking shit?
53:48
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, you know right now, I'm really just doing
53:51
Speaker 1: it whenever i'm you know, in the studio board or
53:53
Speaker 1: you know, just like at the crib, like getting ready
53:56
Speaker 1: to hop on the game. Might as well stream this shit?
53:58
Speaker 2: What are you playing right now?
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Speaker 1: Two games? Fortnite and uh the Texas Chainsaw Masker games. Yeah,
54:08
Speaker 1: that ship's the Texas Chainsaw Masker is a good game.
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Speaker 2: I keep be playing Dead by Daylight.
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Speaker 1: Fucked that game.
54:14
Speaker 2: No, I hate that, bro, I'll be walking in I'm like, bro,
54:16
Speaker 2: what the fuck are you playing that? Because you have
54:19
Speaker 2: to like survive.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of like the Texas Chainsaw game, but
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Speaker 1: like worse. Like if somebody took a ship on the
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Speaker 1: Texas Chainsaw Ate, that ship threw it up, ate it again?
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Speaker 2: Did you really just got to survive? Went back up
54:31
Speaker 2: with your homies? It is like, yeah, like you and
54:34
Speaker 2: your homies leather facing.
54:35
Speaker 1: You don't know. It's like you're you're either the killers
54:38
Speaker 1: or the victims, so you just gotta If you're the victims,
54:40
Speaker 1: you escape. If you're the killers, you kill the victims.
54:43
Speaker 2: Did you try to fuck around Marble Rivals at all?
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Speaker 1: Nah? I never had. People told me that game sucked,
54:48
Speaker 1: so I just believe them when it comes to games,
54:50
Speaker 1: I just believe when ny can say that they suck
54:53
Speaker 1: that Arc Raiders game.
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Speaker 2: A lot of people are into Arc Raiders.
54:56
Speaker 1: I fucked with it. I played it a few times.
54:59
Speaker 1: But I'm not a big fan of like extraction games
55:02
Speaker 1: because eventually that shit just gets.
55:04
Speaker 2: Boring, right right right?
55:05
Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I feel like with Fortnite, they've done it really, probably
55:09
Speaker 2: the only game ever to like keep just making people interested. Yeah,
55:14
Speaker 2: it's kind of crazy how long of a run Fortnites had.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've said those two games I played, you know,
55:19
Speaker 1: take the stage on Fortnite, but I hate them. I
55:22
Speaker 1: fucking hate them. I have, but it's like I play
55:25
Speaker 1: them because like I be boring and it's fun sometimes,
55:28
Speaker 1: but well I mostly hate that shit. Why because I
55:32
Speaker 1: used to be like really good at the game. But
55:34
Speaker 1: that was when I was a fucking loser and I
55:35
Speaker 1: had no life.
55:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, now you're shit going on.
55:39
Speaker 1: It's like I get on and I keep getting killed
55:41
Speaker 1: by losers that have no life, and I'm like fuck, man,
55:45
Speaker 1: like I would have to take like career, Like fuck
55:50
Speaker 1: this album. We need to get good at fortnite, you
55:52
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
55:53
Speaker 2: Like, bro, I like I saw they did the Simpsons
55:55
Speaker 2: ship and I told my kid, I'm like, yop, I
55:58
Speaker 2: need to play that ship. Yeah that was a because
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Speaker 2: the Simpsons game low key back in the day was fire.
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Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, hell you the.
56:05
Speaker 2: Simpsons game and then the Hit and Run.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, the Simpsons movie game. Yeah, that shit was
56:09
Speaker 1: fire for sure. Yea.
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Speaker 2: All right, So album coming soon, video for Unnecessary on
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Speaker 2: the way the song's out, any spot shows or you
56:18
Speaker 2: just kind of focused on health before you hit the
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Speaker 2: road at all?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, just kind of focus on health before I hit
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Speaker 1: the road.
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, all right, man, well shit, get healthy and
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Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to the new album. My guy, I
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Speaker 2: appreciate your brother sir. Fire