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The Ethics of Offensive Security

Farzan Karimi, Deputy CISO at Moderna, joins Amir Bormand for a sharp conversation on one of the most misunderstood areas in cybersecurity, the ethics of offensive security. From red team rules of engagement to nation state deception and the limits of AI in security testing, this episode gets into what happens when the job requires you to think like an attacker without crossing the line.

This is a practical conversation for security leaders, engineers, and operators who want a clearer view into how modern security programs actually work under pressure. Farzan shares hard lessons from his own…

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