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Ted Waitt And The Transcript From His Epstein Related Trip To Congress (Part 11) (8/1/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're getting right back to
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  Speaker 1: the Ted Waite conversation with Congress. Question Okay, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Can you give us a brief description of what the
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  Speaker 1: Clinton Global Initiative is? Answer? The Clinton Global Initiative followed
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  Speaker 1: on after Davos, but to tackle some of the biggest issues,
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  Speaker 1: but to get people to actually make commitments to do
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  Speaker 1: something about it. Question and what was your involvement with CGI? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: I would attend some of the early early events. It
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  Speaker 1: was very successful in the early days. Question did you
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  Speaker 1: help establish CGI in any way? Answer? No? Question. Did
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  Speaker 1: miss Maxwell assist in establishing CGI? Answer? She told me
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  Speaker 1: she did. Question did mister Epstein assist in the establishing
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  Speaker 1: of CGI? Answer not that I know of. Question were
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  Speaker 1: you involved in any way in receiving or managing funding
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  Speaker 1: that was given to CGI? Answer no question. Were you
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  Speaker 1: aware at the time that you were involved with CGI
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  Speaker 1: that mister Epstein had made a donation to CGI in
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and six? Answer no question. Did you and
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  Speaker 1: miss Maxwell? And you have kind of answered this already,
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  Speaker 1: But did you and miss Maxwell maintain communication with either
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  Speaker 1: President Clinton or Secretary Clinton while you were involved with CGI.
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  Speaker 1: Answer that would have been all with President Clinton, not
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  Speaker 1: Secretary Clinton. Mister spector. Question and would those communications have
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  Speaker 1: been through Doug Band? Answered typically through Doug Band or
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  Speaker 1: one of his other staff staff members, or you know,
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  Speaker 1: just communication when we saw each other at the various
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  Speaker 1: CGI events. Question what's your knowledge of mister Band's relationship
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  Speaker 1: with Miss Maxwell? Answer? Their relationship goes back quite some
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  Speaker 1: time to when mister Band and President Clinton left the
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  Speaker 1: White House together and Doug went along with mister Clinton.
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  Speaker 1: Question so they were Miss Maxwell and Band? They were
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  Speaker 1: friends or something else? Answer? They were friends, I believe so.
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  Speaker 1: Question do you have any knowledge of whether they had
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  Speaker 1: any form of romantic or sexual relationship? Answer no, Miss Cathay.
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  Speaker 1: Question did you attend the CGI conference that occurred in
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  Speaker 1: September of twenty thirteen? Answer? Possibly, I don't remember attending one.
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  Speaker 1: I attended one later when he did an ocean thing.
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to get CGI to do more ocean
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  Speaker 1: work because that's my primary thing. I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: year that was, I don't recall. Question. Reporting indicates that
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell was invited to an event in twenty thirteen that
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  Speaker 1: was honoring her work an ocean conservation. Do you recall
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  Speaker 1: being at that event? Answer no, I do not. Question
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  Speaker 1: did you know that miss Maxwell was being honored at
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  Speaker 1: an event prior to it happening? Answer no. Question did
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  Speaker 1: either President Clinton or a Secretary Clinton communicate with you
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  Speaker 1: that Miss Maxwell would be honored by CGI? Answer no.
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  Speaker 1: Question And when was the last time you attended an
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  Speaker 1: event for CGI? Answer I don't recall it was. I
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  Speaker 1: believe if that ocean conference. There's a photo of it,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know what year it was. Question do
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  Speaker 1: you recall the last CGI event that you attended with
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  Speaker 1: Miss Maxwell? Answer no. Question Did you and Miss Maxwell
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  Speaker 1: work together on any CGI initiatives? Answer no, not that
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  Speaker 1: I can recall. Question did miss Maxwell ever discuss her
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  Speaker 1: travel with other people with you? Was there anyone significant
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  Speaker 1: that you can recall that she would take trips with?
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  Speaker 1: Answer no. Could you be a little more specific maybe,
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  Speaker 1: question sure, I'll start more specifically. Did she often travel
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  Speaker 1: with mister Epstein? Answer not that I'm aware of, not
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  Speaker 1: during our relationship. Question And did she ever gets cut
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  Speaker 1: off by mister Waite? She wouldn't have told me if
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  Speaker 1: she did. Now Spector jumps in what do you mean
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  Speaker 1: by that answer? I don't remember her ever saying she
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  Speaker 1: was traveling with mister Epstein. I probably wouldn't have been
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  Speaker 1: happy with that question, So she wouldn't have told you
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  Speaker 1: because she would have known that you would not have
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  Speaker 1: been happy if she was traveling with her ex boyfriend.
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  Speaker 1: Answer yeah, traveling with her ex boyfriend. Question but you
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  Speaker 1: had no reason to suspect that she was hiding it
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  Speaker 1: for that reason? Answer no, Yeah, exactly. I don't have
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  Speaker 1: a reason to expect that. Question. But is it possible
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  Speaker 1: she would have hidden travel with mister Epstein from you?
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  Speaker 1: Answer as possible. Question she would have motive to do so,
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  Speaker 1: is that right? Answer? Yeah. Through the course of preparing
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  Speaker 1: for this testimony, I've discovered a lot of things I
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  Speaker 1: didn't know about her relationship with mister Epstein in the
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  Speaker 1: time that we were dating. Ms Cathay. Did she ever
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  Speaker 1: tell you that she was traveling with anyone else that
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  Speaker 1: was related to her work with mister Epstein, Mister Waite, No,
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  Speaker 1: not that I can recall, question by mister Grant. Mister Waite,
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  Speaker 1: at any point during your relationship with Miss Maxwell, and
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  Speaker 1: will include a couple of years before that, in early
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  Speaker 1: two thousands, Did any other friend of yours mention Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: Epstein in any other way? Answer? I never heard of
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein until I met him in two thousand and three.
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  Speaker 1: Question and did any other investors or anyone else try
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  Speaker 1: to get you would invest with them in any way? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: No question. And outside of your family and your lawyers,
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  Speaker 1: have you discussed this investigation or interview with anyone else? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: Just with some friends, I think. Question in which friends
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  Speaker 1: would that be? Answer? Again, I don't really want to
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  Speaker 1: name them specifically, but I have kind of a rule
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  Speaker 1: that I would rather have somebody hear something from me
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  Speaker 1: than from somebody else. So I did some texts the family,
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  Speaker 1: friends and other people that this was going to be happening,
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  Speaker 1: because I'd rather they hear it from me than read
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  Speaker 1: it in the press. Question understood, mister spector. Question did
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  Speaker 1: anyone attempt to influence your testimony? Answer? No question. We're
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  Speaker 1: approaching the end of our hour. But just kind of
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  Speaker 1: one general question. We talked a little bit about this,
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  Speaker 1: but just to kind of maybe put a finer point
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  Speaker 1: on it. You were dating miss Maxwell. She was working
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  Speaker 1: for her ex boyfriend who had been accused of crimes
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  Speaker 1: against women and girls. You're aware that he's been accused
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  Speaker 1: of those crimes and eventually serve time for it. You
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  Speaker 1: said that you took miss Maxwell and that she wasn't involved,
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  Speaker 1: So I understand that's your testimony. But were you not
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  Speaker 1: you know this was your girlfriend at the time. Were
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  Speaker 1: you not worried for her safety or maybe legal exposure
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  Speaker 1: for working for a person like that? Answer again, it
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  Speaker 1: was my understanding that I didn't know that she was
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  Speaker 1: still working for him at that point in time. I
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  Speaker 1: knew she had worked for him in the past, but
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know that there was or privy to what
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  Speaker 1: their relationship actually was. She was quite stressed around the
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  Speaker 1: time of two thousand and nine. I'm not exactly sure
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  Speaker 1: around some of the subpoenas, depositions, testimony that she was
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  Speaker 1: supposed to give, around some of those, some of the
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  Speaker 1: lawsuits that named Epstein. She never told me that she
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  Speaker 1: was named in a lawsuit, but she was quite stressed
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  Speaker 1: about it. Question and as you know, of course, you're
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  Speaker 1: a very successful person, extremely successful person, and you're a
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  Speaker 1: public figure and you're providing at this time. Question more
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  Speaker 1: comes up about you when we google you than about me.
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  Speaker 1: So about my standards. You certainly are, and you know
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  Speaker 1: you're giving miss Maxwell, your girlfriend a thirty thousand dollars
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  Speaker 1: a month salary already during this time, and you're hearing
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  Speaker 1: about these depositions, and again you're aware of her past
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  Speaker 1: association with mister Epstein. Were you not worried about your
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  Speaker 1: own exposure maybe PR exposure for being connected to her
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  Speaker 1: at that time, or even were you worried that she
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  Speaker 1: was going to come asking for money to defend herself.
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  Speaker 1: I know you said that you didn't provide more legal fees,
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  Speaker 1: but were you worried about that? Answer? I was never
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  Speaker 1: worried about any financial exposure. I should have been worried
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  Speaker 1: about PR exposure I'm here today. Question, but you weren't
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  Speaker 1: at the time. Answer, I was not at the time.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't cross my mind. I wish it would, mister Spector.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, mister Giaketti. Quick question. You testified earlier that
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell was one of these was on one of these
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  Speaker 1: CGI flights? Is that correct? Answer? I don't believe it
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  Speaker 1: was a CGI specific flight. I'm not sure gets cut
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  Speaker 1: off question a flight weight Clinton answer? Yeah? Question? And
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  Speaker 1: in what capacity was miss Maxwell on that tree? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: She would have been with me questions, so she would
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  Speaker 1: have been invited by you as a plus one answer? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: or we were both invited. Yes, I'm not exactly sure
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  Speaker 1: how that came about, but we both went on the trip.
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  Speaker 1: Mister Giachetti, Thank you, mister Spector. Question I'm sorry. One
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  Speaker 1: more on my end here, understanding that they're different companies,
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  Speaker 1: but I would say generally in the same industry. Have
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  Speaker 1: you ever had a conversation with Bill Gates about Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: Epstein or Glaine Maxwell? Answer? No question. Do you have
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  Speaker 1: any knowledge of Bill Gates's relationship, any firsthand knowledge aside
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  Speaker 1: from media reports about Bill gates relationship with mister Epstein
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  Speaker 1: or miss Maxwell? Answer no question, no knowledge. Answer no knowledge. Question.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever had any communication with other Microsoft executives
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  Speaker 1: about Jeffrey Epstein or Glaine Maxwell? Answer there were some
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  Speaker 1: Microsoft executives that Glaine was friends with? Question who was that? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: But that was way back, not related to mister Skuldonni.
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  Speaker 1: I think the question was whether you spoke with Microsoft
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  Speaker 1: executives about Epstein or Maxwell? Is that right? Spector? Yes? Wait, no,
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  Speaker 1: never I did not, mister Spector. I'm sorry because you
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  Speaker 1: said it. Have you ever had a conversation with miss
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell about her relationship with Microsoft executives. Answer it was
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  Speaker 1: way back. She had some friends. She had a lot
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  Speaker 1: of friends who work for Microsoft. So question, of course,
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  Speaker 1: when you say way back, do you mean she was
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  Speaker 1: friends with them? Early? Answered during our relationship, she had
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  Speaker 1: a couple of friends that worked at Microsoft. But I
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  Speaker 1: don't think they had anything to do with Gates and
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  Speaker 1: his relationship with Epstein. I think it was totally separate.
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  Speaker 1: Question do you know if those friends of Maxwell at
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  Speaker 1: Microsoft had a relationship with Jeffrey Epstein in any way?
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  Speaker 1: Answer no, I don't believe they did. Question you don't
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  Speaker 1: believe they did or you don't know? Answer, I don't know. Question.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Miss Cathay. Mister Waite, I want to give
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  Speaker 1: you the opportunity as we're coming up on the end
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  Speaker 1: of our second hour. We've gone back and forth on
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  Speaker 1: a lit lot of topics today, and so just with
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  Speaker 1: hindsight that you have now and after a seven years
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  Speaker 1: long relationship, in spending time in preparation for this, is
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  Speaker 1: there anything else that you observed about Miss Maxwell in
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  Speaker 1: the course of your relationship or after that you have
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  Speaker 1: not mentioned today. Mister Waite, nothing I can think of
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  Speaker 1: that would be relevant to the victims, Miss Cathay. And
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  Speaker 1: is there anything about your role with Jeffrey Epstein? Again,
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  Speaker 1: you have not been given the opportunity to say today,
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  Speaker 1: Miss Callen, he doesn't have a role with Jeffrey Epstein.
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  Speaker 1: Mister Waite, No, Kathay, do you have any thoughts, any
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  Speaker 1: remarks about mister Epstein that you are not given an
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to discuss today, Mister Waite, nothing I can think of, Specter,
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  Speaker 1: Is there anything about You've already testified that Jeffrey Epstein
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  Speaker 1: was arrogant and off putting I think were the words
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: you used, again, understanding that at any time you know
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  Speaker 1: the reason. You've already given your reasons for feeling that
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  Speaker 1: at the time. But with the benefit of hindsight, is
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  Speaker 1: there anything about Jeffrey Epstein's character or the things he
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  Speaker 1: did that now knowing the reporting that strikes you differently,
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  Speaker 1: mister Waite, Again, there were things that I knew and
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  Speaker 1: now that we know in the press. I mean, the
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  Speaker 1: one thing I wish I would have done, as I
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  Speaker 1: think I testified before, is around two thousand and eight,
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  Speaker 1: done more research around that point, which I did not do,
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  Speaker 1: Miss Casey, we'll go off the record. Predacted. We can
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  Speaker 1: go back on mister Waite. My colleague has a few questions.
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  Speaker 1: Then we'll go back to me, and then we'll finish
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  Speaker 1: up our questions. Predacted. Okay, we'll be quick here. I
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  Speaker 1: would just like to introduce Minority Exhibit H into the record.
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  Speaker 1: I'll give you all a minute to read that question.
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  Speaker 1: This is an email between you, mister Waite, and miss
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell in October of two thousand and four, and once
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  Speaker 1: you've had a minute to look that over. In the email,
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  Speaker 1: miss Maxwell asked you if you ordered a massage table yet,
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  Speaker 1: to which you reply you have not, and then she
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  Speaker 1: proceeds to say, if no, I will forward to erin
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  Speaker 1: what to order? Who is erin? Answer my assistant at
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  Speaker 1: the time? Question okay? And did miss Maxwell often interface
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  Speaker 1: with your assistant at the time? Answer I believe so.
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  Speaker 1: Question and what would they talk about? Answer I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Question okay, answer schedules my schedule. Question and ordering things
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  Speaker 1: for you and things like that? Answer no verbal response.
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  Speaker 1: Question and do you know why miss Maxwell was working
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  Speaker 1: with your assistant specifically to order the massage table? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: I assume to get massages. Question for you to get massages? Answer?
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  Speaker 1: I assume so. Question okay, and you have previously talked
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  Speaker 1: to Miss Maxwell about wanting a massage table? Answer I
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  Speaker 1: don't remember the exchange. Question Okay, do you know if
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  Speaker 1: you ended up getting the massage table? Answer? I assume
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  Speaker 1: at some point I did I get frequent massages? Question okay,
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  Speaker 1: and you would get them at your home? Answer yes,
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: question and messuses would come to your house. Would Miss
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell ever be involved in arranging those messuses to come
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  Speaker 1: to your house? Answer? I don't recaller specifically arranging a massage.
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  Speaker 1: It's just something I've done for quite some time. Also,
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  Speaker 1: I was going through a divorce at this time. Question Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's all I have on this exhibit. Okay, then I'll
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  Speaker 1: introduce I think what might be our last piece of
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  Speaker 1: paper for you, and that'll be minority exhibit. I. Question.
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  Speaker 1: That document is six or seven pages long. There's just
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  Speaker 1: one bit of content that relates to you. On the
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  Speaker 1: second to last page. You're welcome to scan. Answer second
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  Speaker 1: to last page. Question, second to last page. Bottom of
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  Speaker 1: the second to last page, there's a paragraph related to you,
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  Speaker 1: and that's it. But I'm happy to give your counsel
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  Speaker 1: a moment to look it over. Answer okay. Question. So
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  Speaker 1: this is another FBI Form three h two. It's a
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  Speaker 1: summary of an interview that the FBI conducted with an individual,
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  Speaker 1: and elsewhere in the notes, the individual says that they
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  Speaker 1: worked for mister Epstein and miss Maxwell between the years
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  Speaker 1: of ninety six and two thousand and two, so before
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  Speaker 1: you would have ever met Miss Maxwell, and the woman
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  Speaker 1: says the person says that at one point were Miss
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell's personal assistant and during that gap, so not overlapping
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  Speaker 1: with your relationship with her. But the person says here
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  Speaker 1: at the bottom of the second to last page ending
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  Speaker 1: in eight oh eight, that in or around two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and seven or eight, the person had a job interview
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  Speaker 1: with Maxwell in California, and the person was interviewing to
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  Speaker 1: work for you Ted Waite, whom Maxwell was dating at
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  Speaker 1: the time. It was a project manager position. The person
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  Speaker 1: did not get the job, and the person bought Maxwell
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: had said it was okay if she did not get
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  Speaker 1: the job because it was labor intensive. Do you have
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  Speaker 1: any recollection of this interview? Answer no, question. Do you
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  Speaker 1: have any knowledge director indirect of the interview that the
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  Speaker 1: person is describing Answer No, I don't recall question you
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  Speaker 1: touched on this previous round, But did miss Maxwell often
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  Speaker 1: interview staff on your behalf? Answer? She was experienced in
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: recruiting household staff, and so she spent I believe she
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: was involved in it. Question to your knowledge, did Miss
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: Maxwell ever interview or recruit anybody for your staff who
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: either you knew to be under the age of eighteen
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  Speaker 1: or seemed to usually young to you? Answer no. Question
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  Speaker 1: to your knowledge, did anyone refer to you to work
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: for Miss Maxwell ever disclosed anything about Epstein or Maxwell
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  Speaker 1: committing crimes of any kind? Answer no. Question did you
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  Speaker 1: have any knowledge of Miss Maxwell interviewing staff for you
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  Speaker 1: when that staff member had previously worked for Epstein? Answer
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: I don't recall that question that it's on the document.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: Thank you. A couple of last questions. Have you ever
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: met somebody by the name of Faith Kates? Answer Kate's question.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Kate's answer that name doesn't sound familiar to me? Question
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: and is it fair to deduce from your reaction that
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: you're not familiar with who that person is? Answer? No,
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: I don't recall question. Did you ever meet somebody by
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: the name Jean Luke Brunel. Answer. I believe one of
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: the instances where I ran into mister Epstein on the
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: street in St. Bart's he was with Jean Luke Brunel.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: Question A part and that was a pretty limited interaction
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  Speaker 1: I think as you described. Is that right? Answer? Yes?
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Question I know you can't remember specifically, but maybe it's
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: a two minute conversation on the sidewalk type of thing.
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  Speaker 1: Answer yeah, two or three. Question did you have any
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  Speaker 1: knowledge outside of interactions as to who mister Brunell was?
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: Answer I believe Miss Maxwell said he owned a modeling agency.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Question did miss Maxwell describe any personal or professional relationship
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  Speaker 1: that mister Brunell may have had with mister Epstein? Answer
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  Speaker 1: she said they were friends. Question personal friends? Answer yes.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: Question did miss Maxwell ever describe any kind of business
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  Speaker 1: or financial relationship between mister Brunell and mister Epstein? Answer
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  Speaker 1: not that I can recall. Question did miss Maxwell ever
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  Speaker 1: describe that she herself had any kind of personal or
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: business relationship with Brunel? Answer no. Question And did miss
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell ever mention or describe anything at all with respect
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  Speaker 1: to mister Brunel that struck you as possibly criminal or
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: ethically problematic? Answer? Nothing? As criminal, but she did not.
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  Speaker 1: She expressed a this like forum. I recall question, Well,
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  Speaker 1: what do you recall as the nature for the reason
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  Speaker 1: of that dislike answer? I don't recall. It's just like
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: he was not a good person, I think, is what
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  Speaker 1: she said. Do you question, do you have any sense
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  Speaker 1: of somebody cannot be a good person in a variety
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  Speaker 1: of ways? Do you recall whether miss Maxwell ever implied
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: that the not good person concept came from any type
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  Speaker 1: of financial misconduct, bad personal ethics, sexual related misconduct, any
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: color commentary? Wait, I don't recall question by redacted? And
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  Speaker 1: is it correct to say that you personally never or
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  Speaker 1: should I say? Mister Brunell was arrested in France in
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty for various alleged crimes. He took his own
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  Speaker 1: life before his trial could proceed. Is it correct that
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  Speaker 1: you yourself never had any knowledge of mister Brunell's alleged
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  Speaker 1: crimes before those crimes became public? Answer? No question. We
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: have encountered several times the question of whether or not
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  Speaker 1: mister Rapstein ever held himself out as a recruiter for
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  Speaker 1: Victoria's secret. Do you have any direct or indirect knowledge
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  Speaker 1: of that topic. Answer, no question. I think that that
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  Speaker 1: wraps up our questions. Is there anything else that you
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  Speaker 1: would like to share with the committee that you can
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  Speaker 1: think might be useful to our investigation? Answer nothing that
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  Speaker 1: I can think of right now, redacted. With that, we
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  Speaker 1: can go off the record. All right, folks. That's going
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  Speaker 1: to do it for the Ted Wait congressional testimony. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the next one we're gonna dive into is the transcript
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  Speaker 1: from Kathy Rumler and her conversation with Congress. All the
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