Latest / Founder Unfiltered - What Founders Think But Never Say / Skip My Mistakes: What I Wish I Knew Before Starting My $25k / Mo Fractional Business
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- 0:00Welcome to another episode of 6 Figure Secrets for Fractional
- 0:04Experts. My name is Bradley Jacobs.
- 0:06I'm your host, the founder and CEO of My Lands.
- 0:10Today we're going to give you the road map of everything I
- 0:14wish I had known going into my business so that you can skip
- 0:19all the mistakes that I made. And I've learned from thousands
- 0:22of others at this point. So skip their mistakes also and
- 0:26go through all the best practices as you were.
- 0:29Whether you're starting out or whether you've been doing this
- 0:31for years. My guess is you'll learn
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- 1:17I'm actually going to start with things I did well that when I
- 1:20look back over the years that I would absolutely do again.
- 1:24The first thing is at the beginning of my business, I
- 1:28spoke to everyone that would talk to me and those
- 1:32conversations either resulted in a new client or at least client
- 1:35interest or a referral to somebody else who may have
- 1:40either referred me to someone else or became a client.
- 1:42And I would just keep taking calls.
- 1:44And those calls led me to a really interesting place both in
- 1:48learning what I had to offer, what companies problems were,
- 1:52and just basically learning how to navigate those conversations
- 1:55from a get to know you to a, is there an opportunity for me to
- 1:59support you? And the best way I did that?
- 2:01This is the second one is I was always really curious about what
- 2:06was going on on in their business.
- 2:08So I would ask tons of questions.
- 2:10How are you thinking about this? How are you thinking about that?
- 2:12What do you do here? And I asked all those questions
- 2:15in my area of expertise. So I'd ask them about
- 2:19automations, I'd ask them about operations, I'd ask them about
- 2:21pricing, I'd ask them about marketplace dynamics.
- 2:24And eventually they get to a point of like, oh damn, like we
- 2:26really could use you. You clearly know a lot.
- 2:29But I was able to demonstrate that I knew a lot from my
- 2:32questions and got to learn what's going on for their for
- 2:36their business. So I would make the
- 2:39conversations really all about them and not about me and what I
- 2:42wanted and what wasn't. Like, it doesn't matter, right?
- 2:45What was important was what's going on in their business and
- 2:47can I help them? And so the the last thing that
- 2:50I'd say that I would certainly do around these calls is I'd
- 2:54always ask for an introduction. If there was not a fit, it's
- 2:57like who else in your network should I be talking to?
- 2:59So highly recommend that I would go, you know, referral out to
- 3:03referral out to referral out to referral.
- 3:04And then I'd end up with a client.
- 3:06So I would talk to everyone. Another thing I did is I asked
- 3:10for big money right up front. I didn't work for free.
- 3:14I didn't work for a smaller amount because I was starting
- 3:17out. I just asked for the big number.
- 3:20And I don't know where I got that courage from, but I just
- 3:22did. I was like, I'm going to charge
- 3:2520 grand a month or 250 an hour or whatever it is.
- 3:28And I never undersold myself. I never said yes to a client
- 3:33where I was like, oh, I'm getting underpaid.
- 3:35This doesn't feel good. I always felt like I was
- 3:38winning, and frankly, I felt like the client was winning too
- 3:40because I was still generating so much more value than they
- 3:43were. Even when they were paying me 20
- 3:45grand a month, I knew I was generating way more value than
- 3:49that, probably like millions of dollars worth of value.
- 3:52And that's just how it goes, frankly.
- 3:53Like that's how it needs to go. Otherwise it doesn't make sense
- 3:56to even hire you. And the last thing that I did is
- 3:59when it didn't work out with a client, I didn't take it
- 4:02personally. So if someone just said like,
- 4:04Hey, it's not a good time to work together or you're too
- 4:06expensive or whatever it is, I was like, OK, no worries.
- 4:09And it was kind of on to the next.
- 4:11And I really had this mentality of like, let me go find
- 4:14companies where it's genuinely a really good fit.
- 4:16And those companies are going to happily pay me good money and
- 4:21I'm going to enjoy working for them.
- 4:22So I didn't, I never took it personally.
- 4:25And I think that's the really common thing that I've seen is
- 4:27that is that you're, you're a lot of fractionals are nervous
- 4:32about asking, worried about that rejection, don't feel good about
- 4:35themselves. It's like it's really not about
- 4:37you. It's not personal.
- 4:39It may just not be a good fit for whatever reason, or they
- 4:42don't have budget or the problem isn't big enough or whatever it
- 4:44is. It's not about you.
- 4:46OK, now to the mistakes or let's call them lessons.
- 4:50I'm going to call them lessons. Lesson #1 is do not bill hourly.
- 4:56I billed my first client hourly, 250 an hour.
- 4:58I had no idea what I was doing and I was keeping a timesheet
- 5:02and the client was kind of hesitant to ask me for more
- 5:06things because I was quote expensive and so it was just, it
- 5:09made no sense. Also because I was adding so
- 5:12much value it didn't matter how many hours I worked.
- 5:15But that's a mistake I made early on and never made again.
- 5:19One client I did hourly and that was it.
- 5:22From there on out, I did almost all retainers or I did a few
- 5:26project based pricing with clear deliverables, but really stuck
- 5:30to retainers. And I would just say this is how
- 5:32I work. I work for, you know, 12 grand a
- 5:35month for this scope and you will get this output from me and
- 5:38we'll renew it month over month. And if the scope needs to
- 5:40change, we can change the scope like no worries.
- 5:43And that's just how I did it. So never hourly again.
- 5:47That's lesson #1 lesson #2 is do a ton of outreach and do it
- 5:53early. I was really playing more of the
- 5:55referral game and it worked for me.
- 5:57But I would certainly do more outreach.
- 6:00I did some and it was very effective, but I would do even
- 6:03more. I would just send out tons of,
- 6:05you know, knowing what I know now, I would send out like 20-30
- 6:08notes a day, right? Which ends up at 100 or more a
- 6:12week. And even if your hit rate is
- 6:14relatively low, sending 20 a day, even if you personalize all
- 6:18of them just does not take that much time.
- 6:20You can do the whole thing in an hour and you're going to get
- 6:24responses, you're going to get on the phone and you're going to
- 6:26just get so many more opportunities to close clients.
- 6:29If you're just doing the outreach and not worrying about
- 6:32my offer and my niche and all these kinds of things, like
- 6:35especially early on, I would literally like throw those kinds
- 6:38of things out the window and just like test the waters.
- 6:41You're going to learn about your offer, you're going to learn
- 6:44about your niche as you go. And it's such a catch 22.
- 6:49It's like people don't really want to do their outreach
- 6:50because they don't really know their offer.
- 6:52And it's like that is actually the way to figure it out.
- 6:55So the lesson there is just send those notes and be really
- 7:01curious about what you learn. Don't be so tied to the outcome
- 7:04of like, is this working? Is this not working?
- 7:06Just be curious about what you learn.
- 7:07You're going to learn so much in the doing of the outreach versus
- 7:12like sitting behind a screen and trying to figure out like, OK,
- 7:14what's my offer and what's all these things?
- 7:16Just get out there and do the thing.
- 7:18And the only needle moving activity early on in your
- 7:21business, or frankly I'm going to say almost anytime in your
- 7:24business is doing outreach is just getting on the phone,
- 7:28finding a way to talk to your customer.
- 7:30The only thing that truly matters, especially in the early
- 7:32days and then in the later days, the only thing I would pivot
- 7:36that to change that sentence to, to, to say do the outreach and
- 7:42also do an amazing job servicing your clients.
- 7:45Like that's the only other thing that then ends up mattering
- 7:47because they, they, they keep you and you keep getting paid
- 7:51and they refer you. So do an amazing job and do lots
- 7:54of outreach. The rest of it is, is kind of
- 7:56window dressing, frankly, to that point lesson.
- 7:59And this is actually something I did well.
- 8:02I did not spend any time with a logo, a website, a business
- 8:06plan, or anything else. Any of those kinds of nice to
- 8:11haves in the business. I didn't spend any time on them.
- 8:15In fact, I never had a website for my consulting business and I
- 8:18did it for over 2 years. I had tons of success.
- 8:21Not a single client asked for it.
- 8:22Not a single client cared. I didn't have one.
- 8:25It was all about my experience validating myself and the value
- 8:28that I brought to the table. That's what mattered.
- 8:31So I'm so glad I didn't spend time or money on a website or
- 8:34logo or positioning myself or anything like that.
- 8:38I learned the positioning stuff over time with just by having
- 8:41clients and the website and logo stuff never ended up mattering.
- 8:45The only thing I did end up spending a little bit of time on
- 8:48is I did incorporate an LLC. I got the LLC taxed as an S
- 8:52Corp. That allowed me to save tons of
- 8:54money on self-employment tax. I did get an accountant to work
- 8:57with me on my bookkeeping and saving money and all that kind
- 9:00of stuff so I do recommend that but I didn't have that at the
- 9:03beginning. I had my first client for months
- 9:05before I did that and that was totally fine.
- 9:08The one tip there is just keep your business and personal
- 9:11expenses separate because you can write off the business stuff
- 9:13later. Lesson #3 is really don't worry
- 9:19about your niche. I mentioned this, but do tighten
- 9:22it over time. So at some point in your
- 9:25business, you are going to need to do proper marketing.
- 9:28You're going to need to do, you know, you know my recipe.
- 9:30It is LinkedIn content. It is new connections on
- 9:33LinkedIn and it's engaging with your network and existing
- 9:36connections on LinkedIn. Those are those are the things
- 9:39that you need to do and you need a niche in order to do that
- 9:42because otherwise what kind of content are you putting out
- 9:44there? Who are you adding as
- 9:46connections? Like you really need to know who
- 9:48your ideal customer is. At the beginning.
- 9:50You don't, right? That's the difference at the
- 9:52beginning. You're using your network,
- 9:54you're just doing outreach. You're just saying like, hey,
- 9:57I'd like to learn more about your business.
- 9:58Where can I help you? So you get those conversations,
- 10:02you get your first initial clients and then you start
- 10:06seeing what's going on in the market with my value problems,
- 10:10I'm seeing all those kinds of things.
- 10:12And then you narrow in your niche and you continue to do
- 10:15your networking because you always need to be doing that.
- 10:17But then you can really develop, OK, who's my customer?
- 10:20What are their pain points? What's my unique value add and
- 10:24what are the proof points in my career?
- 10:26Doesn't have to be a consulting business in my professional
- 10:29career holistically that validate this story because
- 10:33that's what we're building. We're building a story, right?
- 10:35I'm Bradley. This is what I've done.
- 10:37This is who I help. This is the pain point I solve.
- 10:40My unique value add is this, and I've done it in the past so you
- 10:42can trust me like it. It really ends up being that
- 10:45simple, but you build that overtime.
- 10:47I'd say literally over the first year, 18 months, two years of
- 10:50your business, you're kind of figuring that out along the way
- 10:53and refining it and constantly iterating on it to a point where
- 10:57frankly, even when you get quote UN quote there, I still think
- 11:01you're listening to the market and iterating every few months
- 11:04on does this positioning change a little bit?
- 11:06Like what am I seeing in the market?
- 11:07How do I need to pivot a little bit?
- 11:10It's a constant like living breathing thing that you will
- 11:14hone as you are servicing clients and doing marketing.
- 11:19The next lesson is obviously keeping existing clients is a
- 11:23lot cheaper than going out and finding a new one.
- 11:27And So what I did, and I highly recommend this and I would
- 11:30frankly go back. So I'm going to call it a lesson
- 11:32like do it even more is get do an amazing job in what you're
- 11:36hired to do, but get involved in other aspects of the business.
- 11:40You can ask lots of questions, you can meet with other teams.
- 11:43You can see what's going on. Like don't overextend yourself
- 11:46too much and make sure you're doing an incredible job with
- 11:48your initial scope, of course. But when you get involved in
- 11:51other areas of the business and you're adding value, then you're
- 11:55they're going to keep you on for longer.
- 11:57And I actually did have this where multiple clients either
- 12:00couldn't get rid of me. They're like, shoot, we really
- 12:02need Bradley. He's involved in all these
- 12:03things or they kept me on retainer after because I was
- 12:07adding value from a strategic perspective or a thought partner
- 12:10perspective or whatever it was with multiple different teams.
- 12:14So I would certainly get as involved as you can.
- 12:17Maybe not right away, right? Do your job, get in a like,
- 12:20build amazing rapport and trust with the organization, but start
- 12:24understanding what other parts of the business are doing.
- 12:26Of course, depends how big the business is, but there's, you
- 12:29always know, there's ways to just kind of poke your head into
- 12:32things like, hey, what's going on here?
- 12:33What's going on here? How can I help?
- 12:34And you just start getting involved and they literally
- 12:37can't get rid of you. Like they will start, they will
- 12:38be paying you forever. The next lesson is build a
- 12:43system before things get absolutely crazy.
- 12:47I never really built a system for myself to track my pipeline,
- 12:52to track my projects, to automate things on the back end.
- 12:57This system might include a virtual assistant.
- 12:59I have one now. It has completely changed my
- 13:01life. I love him to death, but and I
- 13:05have all these systems now, but I didn't have this when I was a
- 13:08consultant and it's a lesson. And when I say a system, it
- 13:12could be things as simple as setting up Zapier.
- 13:15So when people book calls on your calendar, it goes into a
- 13:19CRM. And then when you have those
- 13:21calls, the transcript gets sent over either to the CRM and it
- 13:25drafts in a follow up e-mail in your inbox.
- 13:27Like there's tons of things you can do that just take the busy
- 13:30work of things off your plate and keep your life just
- 13:33organized, right? You know which clients you have,
- 13:36you know when revenues coming in, you know when invoices are
- 13:38due, all those kinds of things that are just a little bit
- 13:41annoying. Like probably most people don't
- 13:43enjoy doing them. But think about those things
- 13:47that you need to be doing. I think CRM is a big one.
- 13:50Pipeline tracking is a big one, invoicing, scheduling, emails,
- 13:53calendar management, you know, notes for different clients,
- 13:57like keep a Notion instance clean or whatever you end up
- 14:00using. But create a system that's
- 14:02reliable for you, that makes your business of one or two or
- 14:05whatever you have, But most people here are businesses of
- 14:08one. It just makes it that much more
- 14:10manageable because you do have to do everything that a normal
- 14:13business has to do, but you're only one person.
- 14:16So setting up those systems and just building them as you go,
- 14:19Like I just write down, all right, what is all the manual
- 14:21stuff I do every single week? Let me just start automating it.
- 14:25And Zapier is your friend. It is such incredibly powerful
- 14:29tool and it's not expensive to use.
- 14:30I could go on and on and on, but I promise to keep these episodes
- 14:34about 15 minutes. So we're going to end it here.
- 14:36There's hopefully lots of Nuggets in there that are
- 14:38helpful for you as you are growing, scaling, starting,
- 14:41making, maturing your business. So with that, I will leave you
- 14:46again, Bradley Jacobs here. Come check me out on LinkedIn.
- 14:49Come check out our new product at mylance.co.
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- 15:08It really does mean a lot to me. And you never wear know where
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- 15:17So you just you just never know. It never really hurts to reach
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- 15:21So anyway, have an amazing day. I hope you are feeling confident
- 15:27in in what you're doing, even if you're not having those big
- 15:30wins, but confident in your process, confident in what you
- 15:33bring to the table, and knowing that even if you're not at your
- 15:36goals, that you are putting in the time, effort and learnings
- 15:40in order to get there. Have an amazing rest of your
- 15:42day. I'll talk to you soon.