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Feeling lots of feelings after TOUGH Bears loss to Packers · Da Windy City Sports Podcast

0:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, oh man, damn it, not me, damn it.
0:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Dead to rights through the damn exception with the game, with it through the game ball at the end of the show away at the same time, Alex.
0:15
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, he didn't just throw it, he said, he threw a game ball away.
0:18
[SPEAKER_00]: That was too, that was super right there.
0:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Bears lose to the Green Bay Packers in Green Bay, 28 to 21.
0:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, I was referring to bear second year quarterback Caleb Williams throwing a costly interception to lose the game near the close-and-moment.
0:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Caleb was 19 for 35, two TVs, and you know that one interception.
0:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, stop.
0:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, one of one playing the Packers, that's a big ol' star right there.
0:44
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a big one.
0:45
[SPEAKER_00]: A passer-raiden of 76.6.
0:47
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's start off right there.
0:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Usually, the, everything's been so good.
0:54
[SPEAKER_00]: We've been getting the Caleb later, because we've been raven about offensive line and takeaways.
0:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And usually when your team sucks, your first thing is quarterback quarterback, but the bears don't suck.
1:05
[SPEAKER_00]: Last one, I know we are all angry.
1:08
[SPEAKER_00]: and you should be, and at this point, there's no moral victories, because this team is really good.
1:13
[SPEAKER_00]: If they were kind of average, we can more victory to suck, not just gain the more of it.
1:18
[SPEAKER_00]: We're not settling no more, because they still almost won the game at the end in Green Bay.
1:24
[SPEAKER_00]: With the packers, pretty much having a good game until old school football, as far as the war of a tradition,
1:30
[SPEAKER_00]: and running the ball took the wind out of the packer sail and they were they were gasped.
1:35
[SPEAKER_00]: But let's start off with Caleb, your thoughts, on that interception, I know we went back and forth initially, you were talking about him running forth.
1:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I think what he didn't take off take off initially, the angle was gone.
1:47
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think he should have hit DJ on the back side, instead of trying to go for it and knock it out.
1:53
[SPEAKER_00]: They were, they were, the momentum is swung their way and they were matriculated in a fashion that they were probably going to score and he didn't have to go for the dagger and that was Hollywood, Caleb, coming back to buy us in the butt.
2:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully he learns this isn't a,
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[SPEAKER_00]: throw the baby out or the quarterback out with the bath water.
2:12
[SPEAKER_00]: But when you're sitting there with a game on the line to be the top in the division and in the conference and you give the game away and they were they were afraid at this point, right?
2:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Because the two point you know the two point conversion was the one that probably was going to be probably going to like you could
2:29
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what's about to say, and you know that it would have put such, uh, uh, in your face, right?
2:37
[SPEAKER_00]: That it would, then Johnson would have shoved it in Matt LaFouro's face with that two-point convergent to end the game and Caleb took that away from us, uh, but your thoughts on the interception and Caleb's play, uh, this afternoon, and going into the evening and in the green bay.
2:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Dude, I have like a billion thoughts on that.
2:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm played to be quite honest.
2:56
[SPEAKER_02]: I have so many thoughts there's so much happening there and there was so much at the end of that game to unpack that I really think like typically we go an hour like I feel like I could almost go an hour on that last play.
3:11
[SPEAKER_02]: You mentioned DJ more so when we were texting back and forth.
3:15
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a shame because I do think Caleb Williams and the bears overall had three opportunities to get the first down and an opportunity to score the ball if they execute which is a shame because they had been executing so well in that second half they've been executing pretty well for the past few weeks that Eagles game all over it and what I think is.
3:42
[SPEAKER_02]: what I think is also really interesting I think this was this game boils down to I'm going to get back to Caleb Williams I'm going to get back to Caleb Williams in a second I promise but I think this game boils down to Matt LaFlor just simply outcoaching Ben Johnson.
3:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I know Ben Johnson you know like had that I love beaten him twice you know the packers took that to heart you know that was billboard material and I do think
4:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Lufler and the packers over, I'll just out coach the bears and I think this play is a great example of that.
4:11
[SPEAKER_02]: So let's start there.
4:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's start with Matt Lufler and the incredible timeout right before that play because I am pretty sure.
4:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I could only watch on Twitter the replays, right?
4:25
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm watching this game on my antenna.
4:27
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's no rewinding on the antenna.
4:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm watching that play over and over on Twitter before we do this show.
4:35
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty sure that was the same play that the bear scored on against the Eagles last week.
4:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Where they fake, they wrote the left,
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[SPEAKER_02]: DeAndre Swift is right there, read one, DJ Moore's a trailer, and then Cole Comet is there for the touchdown, if they want it.
4:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty sure it's the same play, if not the same play like extremely similar concepts, and the Packers were all over it.
5:01
[SPEAKER_02]: They call the time out, you know they talked about it, you know they alert, because here's where I think Caleb Williams got to have the touchdown.
5:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he was late with the football.
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[SPEAKER_02]: and Caleb I think was a tad bit late and if he sees it earlier or let's it rip earlier or just something happens earlier, I do think it's a touchdown and the bears are we're talking about a two point conversion play to win or kick a field goal to go to overtime.
5:31
[SPEAKER_02]: But Kishan Nixon, good player, real good football player,
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[SPEAKER_02]: again I'm almost certain like you can see it happening you can see the film review kicking in where you can see him trailing light being like oh my gosh there's polka met this is the play we talked about it's happening and he he covers he covers ground he makes up the ground he is initially late but he covers the ground and he gets in position and it's an underthrowing ball on top of it so that's missed opportunity one
5:58
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Mr.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Opportunity 2 is if Caleb Williams takes off takes off and this is something that you talked about.
6:04
[SPEAKER_02]: If he just takes off takes off.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's probably got the first down with his legs.
6:10
[SPEAKER_02]: And then yes, I'm not going to hammer the DJ more like yes, DJ more is open.
6:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to hammer him on that because that's got to be his third read that's open so late in the progression like he's coming open as the play is like already kind of happening right the balls kind of already out as he's.
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[SPEAKER_02]: getting open, you know, as he's making that decision.
6:31
[SPEAKER_02]: It's tough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like he's there.
6:34
[SPEAKER_02]: And yes, you should not throw that ball because you see Kishan Nixon is making up the scound.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a bad throw.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it simply wasn't a good throw.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So,
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[SPEAKER_02]: should he look for his third option?
6:47
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, probably.
6:48
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm not going to hammer on for being like, oh my god, this is the play we scored on and he got behind the defense again.
6:53
[SPEAKER_02]: And if he makes a good throw, it might be, it might be a touchdown still.
6:57
[SPEAKER_02]: If he makes one of those spectacular throws, we've seen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's another opportunity.
7:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's another opportunity where I think the bears just could have gotten the first down.
7:05
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're iterating off of this look, this jumbo package,
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[SPEAKER_02]: how many guys I know got stopped just a moment before that and been able to stop the run in that second half they were running at will they were
7:20
[SPEAKER_02]: They were getting yards pretty easily on the ground.
7:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I think if you just hand the ball off to DeAndree Swift right away, I think he would have been able to get the edge to get the first down.
7:30
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think if you get the ball out sooner, it's a first down.
7:34
[SPEAKER_02]: If he turns on the gas to scramble, it's a first down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If he just hand off the ball, I think it's a first down instead.
7:41
[SPEAKER_02]: It's disaster because Caleb is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: is trying to be the hero which he had been.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He had been a hero up to that part.
7:48
[SPEAKER_00]: He was getting the game.
7:49
[SPEAKER_00]: He was getting the game.
7:51
[SPEAKER_00]: He had a game.
7:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he made the he made a bad throw in the worst moment and the and the bears loose.
7:58
[SPEAKER_00]: So okay.
8:00
[SPEAKER_00]: The running aspect I agreed, but a Nika barray versus Kalmanungai was the battle for the continent.
8:08
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, it was Nigeria versus Cameroon, and I love how the first generation African brothers are prolating the league, but they thought the smacks that they were getting, and then the one with Cooper, oh my, like I was like, I know it doesn't matter, but he has gotta be concussed.
8:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, he's running back, so he's used to, he's at Rutgers doing this, but I'm like, I know he's dizzy because, who's there?
8:31
[SPEAKER_00]: You defenders are a commoner, all right.
8:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but this is a thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I still like I said he would have had to take off right away Which he then probably would have maybe thrown a playoff because you could see you probably was looking He was looking to go for it as what he was probably looking to do.
8:50
[SPEAKER_00]: He's looking to just end the game And I love your call on that being the Eagles play two problems with what Kayla did He underthrew it and there wasn't it the same amount of room for him to lead
9:02
[SPEAKER_00]: with the commit like it was.
9:04
[SPEAKER_00]: So he can throw the arch face that can did space and his accuracy issues popped up right then right because having to feel to over slightly over throw it and give commit the chance to fight over the back end for and I'm sure he was afraid to throw it in a way.
9:22
[SPEAKER_00]: But one thing I'll say this with the edge to edge, sideline to sideline, the pack fly.
9:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And then like, there wasn't as many windows for Caleb to put the afterburners on to pick up those first downs.
9:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Even when you looked at the angle, it was like, he's not going to be able to turn the corner.
9:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and that like their speed on the edges is crazy.
9:45
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, you we talked about quay walker and that had
9:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Gary.
9:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Those guys are Sean Gary.
9:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Those guys were flying.
9:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Then the first, and I'll get to the Caleb Park, the first half for them to be down in the defensive tackles for them to stop the run and the bears.
10:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, shout out to Ben Johnson.
10:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think Ben Johnson was over coach.
10:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I will say this.
10:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I hate that he said that about the packers because of how he said it.
10:14
[SPEAKER_00]: He said it like he's like, um,
10:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Like when you when someone kind of lame is trying to be like slick and like it's like, nah, we Because I don't think he's lame, but he was like, you know, I like being the pecs.
10:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm being twice.
10:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was like, just stop, just stop.
10:31
[SPEAKER_00]: And I grew up, that was like, I was like, my mother floor is so coming for you for that.
10:34
[SPEAKER_00]: But regardless, he was gonna, he almost still beat him.
10:38
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't put that on.
10:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I actually, I don't put this on big jobs because what happened to the defense, honestly, that's not how big Johnson is much.
10:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And now, not to say he still has overall if something happened,
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[SPEAKER_00]: and they did something and he could have said, no, don't do that.
10:53
[SPEAKER_00]: That's all him because he's the CEO.
10:54
[SPEAKER_00]: But offensively, he was, he was dialing it up as you really think about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was doing what he needed to do.
11:01
[SPEAKER_00]: It was his players and at the end his quarterback and then we'll talk about the defense and what was happening on the backside of the defense.
11:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that's as much.
11:11
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's only so many, so many decks on the ship that Dennis Allen can move around.
11:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, seats on the deck, I mean, to say, that Dennis Allen can move around.
11:20
[SPEAKER_00]: But that, again, not play, DJ had to get that, again, and I'm asking him to do something sitting on my couch.
11:28
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
11:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not out there at live action with 250 pounds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: athletic specimens, breathing down my neck, trying to commit physical harm on me, and I'm trying to deduce which way I'm going to go, as you said, probably my third option, but knowing what was going on, and as you said, as we said, you had a, it was 20-something seconds left, and you still had time outs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you hit DJ one, he could have scored, but at least in the
12:01
[SPEAKER_00]: You probably wouldn't have been able to run it in right and you can't particularly on the road right in a statement game like this game at the beginning of it went from Okay, you got to remember these are the bears and they're still in the game They're down by two touchdowns, but that's kind of nothing with them amount of time if they have right and you got to the point where it was like wait y'all got this or whatever and then
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[SPEAKER_00]: Caleb blew it.
12:25
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, this isn't a referendum on Caleb because Caleb has shown improvement.
12:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And he asked, you know, what to do moving for.
12:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I like how he handled it.
12:33
[SPEAKER_00]: You could tell he was like, damn, but he was like, man, I had to ask.
12:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
12:36
[SPEAKER_00]: If you watched him at, you could tell his vibe was like, you know, you can tell his vibe was like, you know, you
12:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Dammit, I heard that you asked him off.
12:42
[SPEAKER_00]: If you did not fall earlier, it's, I do think it's a touchdown if he throws the ball.
12:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that, but that is, it's still frustrating because it went from a game where you liked him.
12:51
[SPEAKER_00]: The purpose of making a statement against the bears or who big brother and little brothers and the bears was like, we're not even having a great game when we about to beat you.
12:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that was the thing.
13:00
[SPEAKER_00]: The bears weren't even having a great game in Green Bay and they were about to take that game and run the asses back to Chicago.
13:07
[SPEAKER_00]: and Caleb had a brain cramp and it came back to in the game and that's frustrating, but still when you think about what they did in Green Bay.
13:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, like that, I'm going to put some rose color glasses on.
13:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I am because I'm not going to make this into like it's been too much good.
13:28
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not even about there's been too much good stuff.
13:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, a lot of things that we talk about here is building something and as built as building this up to almost take that game and it was just a bone had it played by your QB that got you and I won't even say bone had it was under throw and ball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: that maybe the touch was off.
13:46
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't like he made the dumbest decision, as you said.
13:48
[SPEAKER_00]: It was the same play with the eagles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, at that point, he should have went and predicted that, thank you, and I could do it again, because you can even tell how he lofted it like he did at that game, but it was stronger.
14:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, it bit them, but there were good signs, because a team that,
14:08
[SPEAKER_00]: It's still they have more talent than the bears and the bears have a lot of talent and they're ahead of schedule than you, you're about to take it in their home and they, and look, they were waiting for this wasn't like you were going to sneak up or take it, they were waiting anticipating trying to send a message to the bears and the bears were this close to saying, you and where you came from.
14:28
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, and the click you came west side, all right, like there was coming like that and that hurts like I said, you know, ladies, we're down stairs with me.
14:41
[SPEAKER_00]: So I try not to curse particularly sometime around my daughter.
14:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying I do but I say curse where curse.
14:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I had to do like five to six curse words curse word curse word curse word curse word instead of actually using curse word this curse word like
14:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man, but yeah, that's the frustrating part.
15:00
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to be honest with you guys.
15:02
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to go through our motions like you're going through your motions.
15:06
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm just trying to break it down as we're talking.
15:08
[SPEAKER_00]: But go ahead, Alex.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to elaborate more on what I meant by Matt LaFlor out coach Ben Johnson.
15:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying Ben Johnson did a bad job.
15:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Matt LaFlair was more ready for what the bears were going to throw at him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not just what Ben Johnson was going to throw at him, but what Dennis Allen was going to do too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Packers were simply prepared.
15:31
[SPEAKER_02]: They had the answers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It felt like they had the answers to the test.
15:36
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I mean by, I think the Packers just were, they were ready.
15:41
[SPEAKER_02]: They were ready for the moments.
15:43
[SPEAKER_02]: And we saw time and time again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: the bears.
15:47
[SPEAKER_02]: So like, for instance, what I mean by Ben Johnson, you know, getting out coach, you know, the end around stuff.
15:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to say.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They sniffed all that stuff out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: DJ.
15:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Those are no.
15:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Those are not.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, DJ more with Roma Dunes ain't out on the field.
16:02
[SPEAKER_02]: And I know you're going to go crazy about this because you've been all DJ more get this guy the ball more.
16:07
[SPEAKER_02]: DJ more finishes football game with one catch for negative four yards.
16:13
[SPEAKER_02]: The play that Carl Brooks sniffed out and just destroyed it.
16:18
[SPEAKER_02]: They tried a lot more stuff near the line of scrimmage and it worked a couple of times, but for the most part, guys were screaming down on the screen sniffing them out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, it was going on.
16:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, that last play Kishan Nixon, they were ready for that play.
16:34
[SPEAKER_02]: on defense, the bears have been so good on third down getting off the field, they've been really good about setting up blitzing opportunities and disguising pressures and bringing pressures from different places, creating havoc and getting off the field, right, both creating takeaways and getting off the field on third down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The packers were eight of 12 on third down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: eight of 12 on third down.
17:02
[SPEAKER_02]: That is a staggeringly high number.
17:06
[SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of that was Jordan Love kept beating the blitz.
17:10
[SPEAKER_02]: They would being pressured with Chauhan Brisker.
17:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you know what?
17:13
[SPEAKER_02]: We're just going to go right over you.
17:14
[SPEAKER_02]: They would bring in pressure with TJ Edwards.
17:18
[SPEAKER_02]: not a problem.
17:19
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to scoot on right by bringing pressure with CJ Gardner Johnson.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like Dennis Allen kept who didn't have a great game.
17:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Who didn't have a great game.
17:28
[SPEAKER_02]: CJ Gardner Johnson did not have he racked up tackles, but he was behind on a lot of plays.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The cover zero play, right?
17:36
[SPEAKER_02]: The cover zero play.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They recognized Jordan love
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[SPEAKER_02]: One, I, there was, there was a specific play, Jordan love clearly understands what's going on.
17:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I know.
17:52
[SPEAKER_02]: All the Christian Watson, they get the man beater on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: was nobody deep.
17:58
[SPEAKER_00]: It was nobody deep and an over the middle.
18:00
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's that also an omelette you keep rocking.
18:03
[SPEAKER_00]: This was a tremendous was extremely missed game her this game.
18:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but that's a moment where oh, hey, we know exactly what they're doing.
18:12
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to make one check.
18:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you got it.
18:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I got it.
18:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
18:15
[SPEAKER_02]: You make this one quick slant touchdown.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
18:19
[SPEAKER_02]: There's the one played Jalen Johnson, you know, Tom Brady had to have to Tom Brady.
18:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I got to watch this game like half with the sound on half with the sound off all my summers taking a nap.
18:27
[SPEAKER_02]: So there was one inside I caught from Tom Brady and if he says it, I believe in my trust in site on the game.
18:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Jalen Johnson, not getting back in space and Packers take advantage of it.
18:39
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, like there were a lot of moments where bears bring the blitz, Jordan Love knows exactly where to put the football.
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[SPEAKER_02]: For a first down or recognizing the coverage, I know exactly what to do and we're going to score right here.
18:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you're dialing up a screen, guess what?
18:53
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to sniff it out from a mile away.
18:55
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, all, oh, we're going to call a timeout because we have a feeling we know what's coming here.
19:01
[SPEAKER_02]: we know it to be on alert for.
19:03
[SPEAKER_02]: And then just some unlucky moments, unlucky moments, where the bears are trying to make a stand, Big Bill has his great move call that has been so effective over the years, right?
19:15
[SPEAKER_02]: His move call to get guys to jump off sides.
19:18
[SPEAKER_02]: He gets his own guy, he gets awesome booker, that helps a score, that helps, you know, the packer score.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So like unlucky moments, plus that preparation, hey, don't jump off sides when Big Bill says move, because we know Big Bill says move,
19:31
[SPEAKER_02]: The packers were just extremely prepared and they executed, they executed it, time and time again.
19:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I think some of this also falls on Caleb because, again, we have to see the 22.
19:48
[SPEAKER_00]: They were, he held on to the ball sometimes in this game more than he had, but I'll say this because I can't see the back of it.
19:54
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if they were all covered.
19:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm sure sometimes they weren't, they could have been covered because, you know, the back, the pack is back in.
20:01
[SPEAKER_00]: They're one of the better.
20:02
[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about it in the, in the pre shelf for this.
20:04
[SPEAKER_00]: They're one of the best defenses and they showed.
20:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And the reason I'm saying this is, I think, what's the bears couldn't get anything vertical consistently.
20:13
[SPEAKER_00]: then they knew to play the screens, you know what I'm saying?
20:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Because that's all they were going to have left.
20:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Just a similar to where the bare safety plan back where all you heard was Jordan Love can't can't can't can't can't all game long because Jacobs was going run for six to seven yards because the safety's were planned back.
20:33
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, that partially goes on.
20:35
[SPEAKER_00]: The linebackers being hurt TJ Edwards had like three to four
20:42
[SPEAKER_00]: on Jacob's where he got Jacob's almost in the backfield, but Jacob's failed three to four yards after he got him, or whatever, but again, I think then line back and cool.
20:53
[SPEAKER_00]: This, to me with the defense and I don't think, I don't think we, are we switching the defense now?
20:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Because it seems early in the conversation.
21:00
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we're just going wherever this conversation is going.
21:03
[SPEAKER_00]: That's just a crazy game.
21:05
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're just, yeah, this, the injuries, the injuries showed in this game.
21:10
[SPEAKER_00]: with the defense where there's only so many times you can cover up some funk.
21:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, jaylin is clearly playing hurt.
21:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and I think if that they had maybe a couple of their other defenders that he maybe would have, I know they, he seemed like he was still in a snap count, but he may have been able to rest.
21:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Kyla Gordon not being there hurt them.
21:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Kyla Gordon was there.
21:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Captain, this is a free game warm-ups, man.
21:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man, like that hurts because you so think about everything that Dylan's out of had planned to create pressure and colors out.
21:44
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
21:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, how good is Kyleras stopping the run in the backfield?
21:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Like being that nickel that can tackle will also.
21:54
[SPEAKER_00]: Terry Stevenson and his physicality, it hurt the he's he was out and again CJ you you just see sometimes with the speed that you know he's good in certain situations but then he just got the speed got him in this game.
22:13
[SPEAKER_00]: Listen it was they had that play where Jacob's got past TJ I mean a sweat
22:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, he lost the contained.
22:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, I know he'd like what the hell are you like, what the hell are you doing?
22:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Like the fair sweat did make up for that.
22:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I think like one snap or two snaps later with the big.
22:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but you're right.
22:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they did have answers for Josh.
22:41
[SPEAKER_00]: That you have
22:43
[SPEAKER_00]: you're at your home on this defense.
22:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Like someone has to lead the way up front.
22:49
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
22:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Someone has to be the harboring that, but here we go.
22:54
[SPEAKER_00]: We're coming for you.
22:57
[SPEAKER_00]: So that was frustrating to see.
23:01
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, look, also I flip it.
23:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Join Lovehead one of those games where it was like that's why they let Aaron Rogers go.
23:09
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, that, like, this was, you know, towards the end of the season.
23:12
[SPEAKER_00]: He can get hot if he's healthy, like it was two years ago.
23:16
[SPEAKER_00]: He was hot.
23:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I did think the bears were going to get her an exception on him.
23:22
[SPEAKER_00]: They did.
23:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I will eat crow.
23:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I said that Rome was going to play.
23:26
[SPEAKER_00]: I was wrong.
23:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, on the, on saying Rome was going to play.
23:30
[SPEAKER_00]: That was me, my hopes were, were dashed.
23:32
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think if Rome was out there, you would have had a better game.
23:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Burt anymore has more than one catch for negative.
23:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Probably.
23:38
[SPEAKER_00]: But the, but see, vertically, the thing is, too, is now with Rome, the top can come off.
23:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
23:44
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's up to more in the middle.
23:46
[SPEAKER_00]: It opens up so that even the run game would have been better earlier because the threat, the safety's can't sink because of the threat.
23:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Even though damn that you don't even need to save these out there for us seven was out there playing as far as the packers, but injured, I'll say, the, of course, the bad play at the end of the game, but the context the game was so much more than that one play, even then that one play cost the game, but injuries to me.
24:11
[SPEAKER_00]: on top of that, really bit them when you're now facing the teams that are the team, maybe, outside of the ramps that has a good chance to win it all, or at least represent the NFC, I should say, in the Super Bowl this year, because I don't think the Eagles, the Eagles can't get hiding going to run.
24:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't get the twist with what I'm trying to say.
24:31
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think if we're just saying on paper right now, it will probably be some, some way of, and the bears would be in there and every
24:40
[SPEAKER_00]: But the Rams or the pack one or two or whatever.
24:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess Seattle.
24:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
24:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know about Darno win in the playoffs when things are on the line.
24:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I grew form.
24:51
[SPEAKER_00]: When he came out of SC, I was rooting for him or what.
24:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll send you some Sam Darno Rose ball highlights.
24:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
25:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
25:00
[SPEAKER_00]: That'll do something.
25:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, this that I think injuries play to huge part.
25:08
[SPEAKER_00]: Finally, and there's only so many times you can cover up for having so many players out when you're facing one of the best teams in NFC.
25:17
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad you mentioned Roma Dunesay and a vertical threat would have helped the run game early.
25:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Because this is something that I also kind of do want to take Ben Johnson to task for a little bit that bugs me early in this football game.
25:34
[SPEAKER_02]: That he to his credit to his credit remedied right away.
25:39
[SPEAKER_02]: The first play.
25:41
[SPEAKER_02]: The first offensive play for the Chicago Bears was the DeAndre Swift run for five yards to set up second and five.
25:49
[SPEAKER_02]: After that, they went incomplete paths to Luther Burton.
25:54
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a pass where a Caleb Williams had to scramble and then there was the holding on Darnell Wright so that was gonna be a pass play.
26:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Then an incomplete pass to DJ more, obviously you're passing on 1315, so that's fine.
26:09
[SPEAKER_02]: The bears go pass play.
26:11
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the one that Colson Loveland looked like he caught it and then it looked like he fumbled it and then it was rolled in incomplete.
26:18
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Colson Loveland fall starts and then Caleb Williams incomplete pass and then Caleb Williams incomplete pass.
26:25
[SPEAKER_02]: And then finally, right after that, the bears run the ball twice in a row and get a first down there, first down to the game.
26:33
[SPEAKER_02]: And that was something that bugged me.
26:34
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like the first play of the game.
26:36
[SPEAKER_02]: You ran the ball and you got five yards.
26:39
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you just go on a fathom free, you know, I don't know, that that also just kind of bugs me when you knew this is a game that you probably want to get in a rhythm early.
26:51
[SPEAKER_02]: And I guess that they wanted Caleb Williams to get some completions under his belt to get in that rhythm, but they were hurt and for completions.
27:00
[SPEAKER_02]: They were hurt and for positive plays.
27:03
[SPEAKER_02]: They went, um,
27:05
[SPEAKER_02]: They went three and out twice to start the game right they went three and out twice before they finally got that first first down on their third drive of the game and it was just like
27:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And he got five yards from the football that first time, maybe right it again.
27:22
[SPEAKER_02]: And it because the run game worked, the run game was great.
27:25
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, to his credit, they got back to that run game, DeAndrey Swift and Kalmanungai between the two of them ran it 27 times, Luther Barton carried it another time.
27:34
[SPEAKER_02]: So they did get back to that run game.
27:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And obviously that run game was very important.
27:38
[SPEAKER_02]: DeAndrey Swift, 4.8 yards per carry, Kylemanungai, 4.1 game, 4.1 yards per
27:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of thought that, hey, maybe if you lean on that run game a little bit, maybe you can build some momentum and then maybe it's not 14.
27:54
[SPEAKER_02]: But ory early on.
27:56
[SPEAKER_00]: But the first series after the incomplete plastic burden, Caleb breaks a tackle and gets runs for 10 yards and it's a flag.
28:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
28:05
[SPEAKER_00]: It's holding our nail for hugging Rochon gear.
28:08
[SPEAKER_00]: He was hugging him.
28:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
28:12
[SPEAKER_00]: It was
28:15
[SPEAKER_00]: that being right now like two of them could have worked out right yeah right like constant level if you catch that then we're not having this conversation right and then you that that part then it's the incompletion them when I got he's under pressure he got rid of it as he should then the third series swift for seven swift gets one he completed a pass for
28:42
[SPEAKER_00]: and this is Matt LaFlor being in a real-a-coach.
28:45
[SPEAKER_00]: They picked up that what the bears were switching on that wham block, and Swift got nothing, right?
28:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Like those two pool, and it was like, no, we know y'all like doing this, right?
28:55
[SPEAKER_00]: And most people, they were practicing, and then Kenneth was under pressure through the way, parsing and uh, Gary were on him.
29:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Forfeering month month for three monograph for four bootleg P.A.
29:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Titan was covered ghost through his next progression.
29:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I wrote for burden for the first under pressure barely got the ball off.
29:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Dixon and Parsons and so monograph hit Parker like a wall hit this is monograph hit Packer like a wall.
29:22
[SPEAKER_00]: This was when he hit Cooper in the helmet.
29:24
[SPEAKER_00]: He spruced all off right then he got he got up and kept running which is again.
29:30
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like man calm monograph
29:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Monaga got to Monaga got for Monaga got three and a half and we started running on that run game.
29:39
[SPEAKER_02]: They started leaning on that run game and then all of a sudden the offense got its legs under them.
29:43
[SPEAKER_02]: But it took them until that fourth drive to really lean on that run game, right?
29:48
[SPEAKER_02]: That third drive you picked up a first down with the run game and then they kind of abandon it again.
29:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, so that, that, you know, that's, that's just another thing that just, it just dinged for me early on.
29:59
[SPEAKER_02]: It just dinged for me early on there.
30:00
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, hey, this is your bread and butter.
30:02
[SPEAKER_02]: This is your identity.
30:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Why are you throwing the ball over the fields when it feels like six degrees in Lambo, you know, this is a total black and blue.
30:09
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think not.
30:10
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the blue day.
30:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we just stayed and going through it because this is frustrating.
30:15
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a, um, this is a frustrating episode.
30:18
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's, look, it's,
30:21
[SPEAKER_00]: It's good frustration because this is not like, man, it'll never, like back in the days, it's like they'll never beat them.
30:26
[SPEAKER_00]: This is just, this is what, and this is like, no, they will beat them, but this was another chance to steal.
30:32
[SPEAKER_00]: It's nothing better than I'm early to the dance and I'm leaving with the best looking girl that was there.
30:39
[SPEAKER_00]: And I wasn't even supposed to be here and I didn't even think my outfit was gonna hit, but it is slamming right now.
30:45
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's where they're at.
30:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And they almost left out of the back door
30:51
[SPEAKER_00]: and that escalated turn into a hoopty.
30:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Before we could pull off and I told Alice, I was like, get in the car, Alex, get in the car.
30:59
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like two more minutes, kind of two more.
31:01
[SPEAKER_00]: There's like, boom, and then everybody saw the hoopty because they thought we had to escalate.
31:06
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what Caleb did at the end of the game.
31:08
[SPEAKER_00]: The hoopty jumped out so fast and it was like, no.
31:13
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry, what's up with the hoopty?
31:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Whoopty is a best of car.
31:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Good.
31:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, whoopty, whoopty.
31:20
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I learned something today.
31:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's that's old.
31:24
[SPEAKER_00]: That's around the time you kind of should you should kind of know what it hoped is all right.
31:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, from Chicago land, you should kind of know to hope.
31:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, now I do.
31:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
31:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for teaching me now.
31:33
[SPEAKER_00]: I do this here.
31:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm all except for you.
31:35
[SPEAKER_00]: At any time.
31:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I hope to be like ran around around in it.
31:38
[SPEAKER_00]: So it would be like many ran around in a hoopty like it's a busted a car which you don't want to like I had I had a real quick story so we could have a little levity and high school one of my closest friends in high school like my dad would drop us off and then he would start to get his grandma to pick us up and she had like a
31:59
[SPEAKER_00]: There was Brown and Rusty and it was like a boat and she would park it right in front of the door to main door, right?
32:07
[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes people like, oh, go to my go, you know, go in the car and grab, I was like, hey, I'm not going to go out there like that's my grandma's car.
32:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm walking with you, all right, hey, this is my school, your rep is everything.
32:20
[SPEAKER_00]: But that and that car was a hoopedie, all right, that car was a beater if you will.
32:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, see what it's a beater, I never, yes, it was a beater, all right, but yeah, that again, just to ask some levity because we've got to laugh a little, um, the bears are now nine and four, they're making it into the playoffs.
32:42
[SPEAKER_00]: They still have a chance to get back at Green Bay in two weeks.
32:46
[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to beat Cleveland and whatever that coach was doing at the end of that game would take us to
32:56
[SPEAKER_00]: for the two-point conversion.
32:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't see this.
32:58
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, she didn't wait before and one, you know, he had one Russian touchdown, three touchdowns.
33:04
[SPEAKER_00]: And at the end of the game, they're going to the two, I don't know if it was a tie on winning.
33:08
[SPEAKER_00]: They made them in the tie it.
33:10
[SPEAKER_00]: And they put in, I think, Juckins, because Juckins, he puts Juckins in at Wildcat.
33:15
[SPEAKER_00]: They sniffed it out, and Juckins starts running backwards, Alex.
33:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Start running, and it was like, what are you doing, right?
33:23
[SPEAKER_00]: What are you doing?
33:25
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, buddy, getting away, who cares what the Browns are doing.
33:27
[SPEAKER_00]: This is about the Bears, but again, the Bears, man.
33:30
[SPEAKER_00]: They had it, and hopefully this is a game that they can learn some less of.
33:35
[SPEAKER_00]: But really, hopefully it just gets healthy.
33:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully, man, hopefully, man, the Bears comes off for IR soon.
33:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I think that will mean a lot for them.
33:44
[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully, Kyla Gordon, he's not going to be hurt for a prolonged part of time.
33:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Because the league now knows a lot of what the Bears like to do.
33:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, that's what this is all about film, studying and great coaches are I learn how to just to what you there's been fitting you.
33:59
[SPEAKER_00]: So it doesn't benefit you as much moving forward and that to your point earlier about what the Packers were doing on offensive defense, it was showed a lot as far as that program being further along.
34:12
[SPEAKER_00]: And also they had this this game circle like any game, it was going to be circle this year.
34:16
[SPEAKER_00]: This was for the last sister Eagles game.
34:20
[SPEAKER_00]: This was the game for them, that they were going to send a message and I don't know if they really sent it.
34:27
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they are still really good, you know what I'm saying.
34:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And the thing is to let you to your point too about running a ball.
34:35
[SPEAKER_00]: If you keep running a ball, guess what?
34:36
[SPEAKER_00]: It also helps you with bears.
34:38
[SPEAKER_00]: It helps you with Mike Parsons being on the sideline.
34:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, because that's that's one thing is not really good at right.
34:43
[SPEAKER_00]: And you could take him off and then maybe you can do some other stuff with Triggeration as far as passing them all because one of the best past rushes that's generational basically when you're talking about what five straight years with 12 more sacks sitting his ass over there next to his coach, but Yeah, Alex.
35:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going through it, man.
35:03
[SPEAKER_00]: It's game.
35:04
[SPEAKER_02]: It was good because you don't have to wait long for the rematch if that's any kind of region.
35:10
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the best part and I mean, they're coming here and I hope the bears put it on them.
35:16
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'll say this though, and I'm not getting making excuses for the bears.
35:21
[SPEAKER_00]: even if Green Bay wins and of course contact contact matters, still to know where the bears are at this year.
35:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Because we talked about smoking mirrors, then it got to be like down.
35:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Now they did, they're that good.
35:34
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is again, it's a loss and there's no more victories, but they're still that good that they were having an off game and was in Green Bay with Green Bay's quarterback dealing with
35:44
[SPEAKER_00]: about to perhaps win the game at the end of the game.
35:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that speaks volumes to where they've come.
35:51
[SPEAKER_00]: They have to get over this hump though to get where they want to go.
35:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you got to take care of business against Miles Garrett, who is Miles Garrett, not to do not overlook Miles Garrett.
36:03
[SPEAKER_00]: He's breaking a record.
36:04
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to break the record this a week.
36:08
[SPEAKER_00]: At least, but you know, at least we're talking about some of these.
36:10
[SPEAKER_00]: Did he not get it?
36:11
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm, I'm obviously out of the list.
36:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I know he got 20, I know he's at 20.
36:15
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I don't think he broke out of it, too.
36:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I would have seen most of it.
36:20
[SPEAKER_02]: If Miles Garrett has history in his sights, against the Chicago Bears.
36:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Now this is not, this is not last year Chicago Bears when Caleb Williams was getting sacked all the time.
36:32
[SPEAKER_02]: They, they have done.
36:33
[SPEAKER_02]: their scores better.
36:35
[SPEAKER_02]: They're way, way, way better in past pro.
36:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Caleb Williams is doing his magician act still.
36:42
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's all better, right?
36:46
[SPEAKER_02]: But man, Miles Garrett, Miles Garrett chasing history is he got the 20 of sack.
36:51
[SPEAKER_00]: So he got his 20 of sack this season.
36:54
[SPEAKER_00]: The record is 22 and a half.
36:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think Caleb
37:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think Caleb wants that talk to history like he hasn't been in the league long enough to be like, you know what, so kind of cool if I'm the quarterback did, straight hand gets to record on and Caleb is difficult to bring down.
37:13
[SPEAKER_00]: We've seen that today where the defender had his hand on Caleb was like, okay, look at him.
37:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Like us, so we'll see, I do, I'll say this.
37:22
[SPEAKER_00]: I would prefer not against my team, but I do want Mao's Garrett to break the record because it's something when you've been on with a loser franchise, at least historically, it would call back to how great you work as you can be forgotten playing for bad franchises and having being a generational player as Mao's Garrett is, I don't care if he took the money, they didn't want to let him go.
37:44
[SPEAKER_00]: And if I want to stay, I may as well get paid, supremely.
37:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I will.
37:47
[SPEAKER_00]: the money!
37:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah a lot of us take the money.
37:52
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna take the money.
37:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if they're not, they don't want to let me go and I'm a sell.
37:57
[SPEAKER_00]: whatever, anyway.
37:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, yeah, exactly.
37:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Been the best past Russia since Aaron Donald without question, been unreal, been unreal player.
38:06
[SPEAKER_02]: So all of that is to say, don't overlook the Browns.
38:10
[SPEAKER_02]: What the bears need to do and what, you know, to continue to show the growth.
38:16
[SPEAKER_02]: But we've said it all year, that games like this were going to happen, there were going to be ups and downs where on this roller coaster Caleb Williams could be
38:24
[SPEAKER_02]: in that second half like he was and he was dealing.
38:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Kateth and I were texting each other back to back, dialed all caps in regards to Caleb Williams because he was dialed that offense was marching and then roller coaster ride makes a late throw under throws the ball game over.
38:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Now again, like on this roller coaster ride, if you want to show you're over one of the hump, if you're past the scariest drops of this roller coaster ride, you've got to take care of business against the Browns and then get back out against the Packers two weeks later, where Tremant Edmunds is eligible to return.
38:58
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see if he actually does return, but he will be eligible to return for that second game against the Green Bay Packers.
39:05
[SPEAKER_02]: So,
39:07
[SPEAKER_02]: In years past that this could have been a loss where okay now this is the start of a three game losing streak and play off that seemed so attainable are now like whoa you're on the outside looking in because things are tight in the NFC a couple of losses in all of a sudden they could be on the outside looking in so is this a new year is this a new dawn is this a new day can the bears just take care of business against an inferior opponent like they're supposed to as a good team.
39:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Are they going to get better against the packers?
39:39
[SPEAKER_02]: Is there best yet to come?
39:41
[SPEAKER_02]: So like, yes, today is super frustrating.
39:44
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's another measuring stick.
39:46
[SPEAKER_02]: It's another moment on this roller coaster ride.
39:49
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, I still think there is reason to be optimistic for this team for the future.
39:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And now, again, bear show us what you're made of.
39:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Show us what you're made of.
39:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Take care of business against the Browns.
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[SPEAKER_02]: show what you learned against the packers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they'll be in the Browns next.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you this, the Browns still won.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'ma be up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, you know, the rose, the rose color glass, you know, the guy forget his name.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's something stallion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's on a social media and like he'll eat something then he'll throw his glasses or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the guy I'm talking about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't know that guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, all right, I'll lose you different.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know my algorithm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, I love your algorithm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's wild.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's what I will do if the Browns, even if she do her playing better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I would hope that can expose some of it his youthfulness as far as making some mistakes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But they better be the Browns next week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because the standard is set as higher.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like you, you, they've been beating everybody and you ran up against a Packers team that you almost beat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now you know, okay, we have to get there.
40:56
[SPEAKER_00]: We have to get past this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's not hit go back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like one thing that we worried about a lot this year was things probably weren't going to be linear as far as we're going to keep rising and going up and going up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They started getting linear like four to five weeks ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The quarterback, the last three weeks has been linear.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't even look at this game as being like, oh my God, he fell back.
41:21
[SPEAKER_00]: This was one of those you got to know what you can do when you can't do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You, and I know you are possible to hit home runs, but sometimes you got to take the single, take the double, you know, you got to move, move the guy alone, just move the guy alone, we'll score, we're gonna score, just get to the guy on third, and we will get him in, don't worry about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he needed to do that, and that's just part of growth moving forward.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes you've got to stop in the high here because he can he can end up causing them to get penalties, but look the burden had a really good game today and that's good to see his ability for yet after contact is always a parent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and those things where you need to find ways to get these versatile receivers that you have open more often, also with these tidings, Caleb had that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: great over the shoulder throw up the sideline.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, they're with the times Caleb has to be more consistent with getting the ball to receivers and he has to have more completions.
42:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you can't be a student MBA numbers out here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bill Goperson inches.
42:36
[SPEAKER_00]: You need to be doing better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: of the net, but yeah, I wanted to make sure Luther Burton got his props.
42:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not just think if Rome was there, I think if Rome was there to bear his win this game.
42:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just being honest.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, because I, there's one, he would have had at least one or two deep throws.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I just think what it would have provided for the run game and the other receivers to have him be the focal point that that that that that they will probably bracket over top if they were going to move a safety I think it just would have really helped them and then would have helped Caleb to have his guy out there and again, you got to move on you and I'm not saying that it's an excuse.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, for cutler.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This isn't one of those situations.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not the a dontrell in men years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Eddie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, more is still very good.
43:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Why do stever you and I should not have more receiving yards today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then DJ more, which you did.
43:36
[SPEAKER_02]: You listening to this podcast at home, you had more for receiving yards than DJ more.
43:41
[SPEAKER_02]: That shouldn't happen.
43:42
[SPEAKER_02]: That shouldn't happen.
43:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, anything else sticks out to you before we close this out.
43:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think the things that I wanted to talk about the D. I think we've kind of said the D was more bend than break.
43:57
[SPEAKER_00]: Usually, it's, no, it's a lot more break on it to say than Ben, this time.
44:02
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not really trying to come down on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some, I said it early, injuries are going to hurt hurt you and they are shooting us a really good team, even though you had this team dead to rights.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The break in, the break downs in the back in were a parent, but a lot of that, I attribute to, I attribute to injuries on this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like with Jaylin and some of the missed assignments,
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[SPEAKER_00]: that if he was healthier he would be like he has he he hasn't been there with this Dennis Allen defense throughout the season for the most part you know what I'm saying to know the tendencies of now what his his DB mates do in these situations you know what I'm saying so when this is where it hurts when you've missed the entire year and right so when buyer comes each account
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, and like so that I fill again where the injuries really kind of got to them or whatever, but yeah, that's kind of what I have, but we're going to be the Browns now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there you go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: One thing I want to talk about just because we've kind of hammered this guy over the year saying it hasn't been good enough Tory Taylor.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, I thought I had a nice day when they needed him to have nice kicks to stay in it for punts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: 288 yards average 52 yards of punt, one touch back which you don't want, but you'd have to inside the 22 that were pretty nice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So overall solid day for Tori Taylor, the bears need more performances like that from him.
45:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, that bot squeak kick by Cairo, the dirty, the dirty kick at the dirty, yeah, but he did, you know, he had a good game.
45:41
[SPEAKER_00]: He had a, he had a decent game today when doing his job job job.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not mad at him or whatever.
45:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have any game balls to give out?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not today.
45:51
[SPEAKER_00]: No, nobody's getting jacked today.
45:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why he's getting nothing!
45:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm about in the extra points.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I actually do have an extra point.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead.
46:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh...
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here, I'm taking this head off and I'm putting back on my USC meatball hat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So this is an Alex Shapiro, the USC meatball incredibly disappointing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That once again, USC is not participating in the college football playoff unacceptable for the program.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This, the 12 teams make this thing now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're letting anybody in and USC can't still make it.
46:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you kidding me?
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it does bring my heart a little bit of joy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Apologies.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm taking the meatball hot off a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Apologies, Chris Emma.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wherever you are, uh, because Chris Emma is a good guy and he's a big Notre Dame fan, but now with the meatball hot back on, I'm so happy Notre Dame is not part of the college football playoff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They got leapfrogged on a day where they didn't play football.
46:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Where it's like, hey, hey, what are you guys going to extra game?
46:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, oh, you want to be independent.
46:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you don't want to be in a conference.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you want to play Syracuse and Cupcakes and all of this and play three big games every year and it just beyond NBC and then, but, but, oh, we got to leapfrog in the college football playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I absolutely love to see it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't even give you the sarcastic hate to see it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's how much I love to see it.
47:17
[SPEAKER_02]: So Miami, hey Miami beat Notre Dame.
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[SPEAKER_02]: had the head, they beat him, what do you want to do?
47:23
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you want me to do?
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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's coming down to Miami or Notre Dame.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Both of them were off.
47:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, Notre Dame was technically ahead of them in the rankings, but guess what?
47:33
[SPEAKER_02]: But guess what?
47:33
[SPEAKER_02]: That's how the, that's the way the cookie crumbles.
47:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Miami beat Notre Dame way, way early in the season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So Miami gets to keep playing football.
47:41
[SPEAKER_02]: And Notre Dame just seems just so unfair.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to, we're not even going to play
47:46
[SPEAKER_02]: I absolutely did the extra marinara sauce in me with the Melson mozzarella and Parmesan 12 inches the footlong meatball subbing me love to see it Where where do you get these where do you get your meatball sounds where you get yours from?
48:09
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's tough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't order it often because a lot of them have pork in it or can it that's what I'm saying.
48:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the part.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the best meatballs I ever had in my life that I recently learned had pork in them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought they were beef.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got bad info from somebody and then the waiter like on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even ask the question because somehow I'll often ask, hey, did these have pork in them?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, they do or no, they don't and then I move on with my life.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even ask this guy just goes Are lovely pork meatballs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a real pork line.
48:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, do you got a real for me?
48:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyways, so I used to eat them Lavo in Lazy
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[SPEAKER_02]: Vegas in Las Vegas had the most phenomenal meatballs and they had this cocktail called the Meadows.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was like vodka blueberry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a fruity cocktail guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I own it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love a blueberry vodka cocktail.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's delicious.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't like I don't understand why you got to get on my case about me like in a blueberry vodka cocktail.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know you're out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Those meatballs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: at Lavo in Las Vegas.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll see you there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I've put in my request for fish at Sphere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll see you there at Lavo, not eating the meatballs before fish at Sphere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully we'll see how the ticker request goes out.
49:24
[SPEAKER_00]: I get my ins usually.
49:26
[SPEAKER_00]: When I used to work off Van Buren from Fontano's, it's right there on Van Buren.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the one that's on 95th out in Beverly, they have pretty good meatballs sandwiches.
49:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Just got to do it, get it right, but they have a,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And usually they're about stingy like what I was a kid.
49:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't like me ball sound just because I didn't think the proportions was right where it's like what about that back in so like someone who breaks it up and make sure it feels the sandwich.
49:52
[SPEAKER_00]: They're those people.
49:53
[SPEAKER_00]: They do that for the most part.
49:54
[SPEAKER_00]: That's like don't disrespect me and like have like three meatballs and one half of this is like now you got to who breadbites just to get like don't don't don't don't play me like that.
50:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't play me like that.
50:05
[SPEAKER_00]: But also I'm happy for your extra point where you
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[SPEAKER_00]: the college football playoffs.
50:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, of course, my family is from Alabama.
50:16
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think Alabama deserves to even be in the damn thing.
50:20
[SPEAKER_00]: George beat the breaks off of us.
50:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Kirby, we've got you.
50:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't even hate Kirby because we got you so many times.
50:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, I talked to Tony Gill, my other Alabama brother.
50:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Kelly, you got one more year that has been happening.
50:37
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
50:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I talked, I offended you.
50:39
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, I offended you, but this, but I mean, it's what we talk a lot about context context, y'all got y'all has beat.
50:47
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, Georgia put it on like I couldn't even mad after a minute.
50:53
[SPEAKER_00]: I was just like can this game just end because Georgia led it to be known Man Kirby shout out to Georgia shout out to Jay Hood and everybody I know that the Georgia fans y'all got it.
51:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I told him I wasn't I told him I thought out a band was probably going to lose an account I said my don't kick as I am fully touched your happiness your head's your happiness there
51:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought you get six of them.
51:15
[SPEAKER_00]: You, I saw a sound tone this.
51:17
[SPEAKER_00]: You, some of it you just got to be like, damn.
51:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I, I, I could be a Patriot fan during that era and I'm like so upset, right?
51:24
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, let give me like five years.
51:27
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, to kind of, let, like, I mean, like, I can't, like, let Nick Saben was just dropping off championships, like, like, Christmas gifts.
51:36
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so like, I can't get mad, but yeah, I'll give you one more year.
51:43
[SPEAKER_00]: When I'm coming back, coming back, when I plan this stuff next year, you're gonna have more of your players there going into your third season.
51:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Mr. DeBorne, take care of that business.
51:52
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, roll tight, roll, because you got rolled by Kirby Smart knows Bulldogs.
51:57
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
51:58
[SPEAKER_00]: everybody we always appreciate you sitting here with us during the Wednesday podcast if you watch or you listen we're thankful that you take the time yes the bears did lose and green bay yes the bears quarterback had a a bad play at the end of the game
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not the end of the world, because there's still one of the better teams within NFC, and that's proved by some of the things that happened a day with a roster that's been defeated.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know everybody has injuries at this point in the season, but still it's true.
52:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Green bet doesn't have anywhere's near the mid-India is I know that craft is out, but they don't have the injuries that the bears have right now.
52:36
[SPEAKER_00]: And even when you look at the bears, offensively on how well they played, and that packers heat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: for you all day, you're strafing that damn password you change a life!
52:51
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, we'll be back during this week to preview the Cleveland Browns game before the end of the week and of course after the Browns game, Alex and myself here is the Winni City podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Be here to break down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Victoria's Bears is a beat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The She-Door Sanders is a Browns even though who knows the fast he may sit on the go wildcat or put in Dilling Gabriel and let him throw for 6,000 attempts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we appreciate you taking a time as we try to bring you a little bit of levity on this bears lost to the hate it Green Bay Packers don't worry two weeks they'll be here and the bears to get them and we'll be here to celebrate it see you midweek be safe and we always appreciate it