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Verity by Colleen Hoover - We are Quite Simply Traumatised. · Lose the Plot with Carla and Emily

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Hi friends, you're listening to Lose the Plot with Carla and
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Emily. In this episode we're reading
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Verity by Colleen Hoover. We are talking about the entire
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book, so warning, there will be spoilers.
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I'm Carla and I've heard of Resting Bitch Face, but I relate
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more to Resting Bored Face. I'm Emily.
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He didn't even touch me. He touched my fucking driver's
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license and it turned me on. Before we dive into this juicy
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us. Trigger warnings.
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Trigger warning. Colleen Hoover.
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I. Immediately know.
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Yet here we are. Because honestly, this book is
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everywhere. I see it get recommended all the
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time. Thank you.
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Just reset my brain. Abortion.
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Cheating. Child abuse.
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Child death. Violence that's from book
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trigger warnings.com I feel like there's I feel like there's so
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much more disability violence against disabled person, I guess
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is that as I think I guess violence covers it.
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Trigger warning for the most intense pygmy energy.
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Oh my God, every second of this book had me in pain.
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Literally. Pure pain.
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And the more I thought about it after I read it, the more I was
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like, everyone's crazy. Batshit crazy.
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Except crew. The child.
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He was an asshole, remember? He was still batshit crazy.
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Yeah, fuck me fucking. First of all, what kind of name
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is? Crew.
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CREU. What kind of name?
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Is Chaston. Don't get me started on Chester
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Just. I.
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Called her. How was Chester the favorite?
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I've never seen a hot Jeremy in my life.
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Never. Never.
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You know what's really funny? The new season of Love Is Blind.
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The bad guy on this season is called Jeremy.
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So that whole Jeremy energy was coming through.
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And I was like, I don't want to hear anyone talk about any
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redeeming qualities of Lowen and Jeremy.
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There you so many red flags that are sneaky hidden in there that
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it's insane. Can you believe that this was
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nominated for Best Romance in 2019?
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No. See, that's fair.
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To be fair, there is no romance. 20/19 was a horrible year.
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It was right before COVID. Started.
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It's just a. Trash file I could recommend So
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many other romances to win, surely?
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But what? Where's the romance?
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There's no romance. There is none.
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There's no eyes. Bugging out.
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Fuck, I've been completely honest.
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Carla picked this book and I got 60 pages in and I was pissed
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'cause it was boring. And I got.
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More in to where it was a bit, hmm, disgustingly abusive.
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I was pissed, but I was like, this is supposed to be a fun
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little book club. It is not fun anymore.
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Like mum pick me up. It was like, where's the fun
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car? Do you know what though?
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Every fucking time you sent me a message.
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I don't know how far you were into it, but you were like this
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is the most fucking disturbing shit I've read in my entire
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life. I'm like, bitch, you made me
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read something about someone getting Dick down by like a 10
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foot Dong getting scratched up. They're back on the rocks.
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Don't you pick that one. Oh shit.
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And I. Picked Adam 5.
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As purely 'cause I think it was funny when I messaged you that I
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was reading the abortion part. Yes.
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And obviously it hits a little home too hard when you have
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babies, right? So I was like sitting there,
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like, crying. Well, people did say they cried.
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I didn't, but I'm a psychopath. You.
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No, you're also not OK. No, you are OK.
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But it's really hard to be sympathetic towards babies if
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you don't have one on you constantly.
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True. I hate old people.
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If this was an old person, I would anytime to bring up your
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ageism, I. Swear to God.
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OK, Renee Rapp. Literally.
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Like adults, do not do it when it's coming too.
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You know what, though? I always pick the real boring,
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tragic books or you don't read reviews.
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You don't read the no synopsis. You don't?
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No. I go in blind.
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I go in with what's popular. But I.
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Tend to like the drawn out depressed.
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Real life shit. And you would prefer like a
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fantasy shit. And when it's fantasy and
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there's so much going on and everything, that's when I tune
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out and I feel like you tune out.
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When it's this real life drama. Illiterate Children's Yeah, but
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to be fair. Yeah, you love it in a.
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You're a child, don't you? There was no one in this.
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Although, although it was giving us by a story.
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To be fair to be. Fair with the fantasy that's on
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me. I sometimes throw you into a
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little too hard, too fast fantasy when you haven't read
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any. And it's because I'm so past
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immune to a fantasy. True, I've rereading it so for
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so long, so I'm just hyped for more and you're just like, this
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is too much. Can I just say it was?
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Things are straight. Up when I was just starting out,
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it was giving pen pal in the way that I was fucking confused as
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fuck. This was way better written and
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I understood what the plot was trying to do a bit more.
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Whereas when we got there I was like it was very obvious where
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it was going to go. There was no point where I was
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surprised, no. But the 1st 60 pages I think
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were just with Lowen before the meeting.
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And I'm like, what? Who is Lowen?
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Who is Verity? So let's start with Lowen.
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She's an author. She gets recruited out of the
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blue Witch. Red flag if you were.
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Lowen you'd be like. She's being recruited for this
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really super popular author who has a fiction series that hasn't
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been finished, but for some reason, mysteriously, she can't
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finish it. Yes.
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So she learns through her X slash she she's walking to a
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meeting that she has no idea about.
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Yeah, some random person dies and then she shows up on the RP
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RP, random person on the street that Hmm, I feel like was very
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unnecessary. They had got mega exploded blood
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one everywhere. I was like, yeah, this is where
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she meets Jeremy quickly. She gives her a shirt, you know,
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he's a respectful king. He's a respectful queen, even
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though I feel like he's not in any way.
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But she's going to get a ridiculous amount of money.
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They've set up for 75 K each book and there's a lot of books
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to go. Three more.
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I think it's just like what? 75 KA.
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Book. Just fire up my ChatGPT, and
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we're done. You're not giving yourself
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enough credit. Go for the go for the, go for
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the Millie, go for gold. Go for the full mill.
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Yeah, yeah. Go and, like, do something
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popular once. You might as well go full
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Millie. True.
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And he's like, what was the 1st St. you lived on?
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And like, what was your first pet's name?
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Fuck off Jeremy. I might be unusable if that's
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how I figured out my pen name. Oh, mine would sound like such.
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I have never had a normal pet name.
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True little man. I can't remember the rest, but
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they were fucking. They were a lollipop.
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Was a cat name. Who's riding under that?
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Who? Honestly.
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Die cancelled. But you can.
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Do porn or a book with that name.
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OK? Lollipop is going to be my name
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for my weird smart on random objects.
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When is that coming out? By the way, did you do the promo
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for it for real? So that you actually have an
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audience by then. Can I just bring up again me
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raging about something? Because it's been a theme in
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every book so far. Just women being dead.
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Dead. Can we just have a dead man?
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Well, we did, because not dead enough.
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What's his name? Fucking Jerry.
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His dad was dead. That's about it.
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But and the man died at the. Start.
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His brain exploded. Yeah, but it has.
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No relevance to the story. I mean, I had to be traumatized
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by this random dead man getting his head popped and I never
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heard about him again. He never came up again, no.
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He didn't matter. Well, let's move on.
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He doesn't matter. Fuck him.
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No RIP for you. No going back to dead women.
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We find out that Verity was in a car crash.
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Yeah, and she's coma and toes, pretty much.
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She's a potatoes toes. She's like coma toes.
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She's bed bound bed. Bound, She stares into space.
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Vibe. She can't eat.
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She drools. Drooling.
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She pisses herself at once. Yeah.
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Look, that's close enough to dead in my opinion, so that
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counts, yes. So she's pretty much dead.
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And then we find out that his two twin daughters died and
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fucking crew still. Alive.
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It's a misogyny, literally. It's verity's misogyny.
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Also, Loewen's mum, we find out she dies at the start, but it's
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decay because she was a shitty bum.
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Did you catch that? Yeah, she had cancer.
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She. But she was only shitty because
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she was terrified of her daughter when her daughter
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started doing weird shit in her sleepwalking.
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True. So she kind of just accepts the
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deal. Yeah, there's no thought.
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She's like, shit. I've actually got to pay rent.
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The first red flag would be the husband, Jeremy, inviting you to
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stay at the house. To quote UN quote.
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Read notes. I mean, she did have shit
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everywhere, but he could have boxed it up and shipped it to
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her. Actually, yeah, he just assumed
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she had nothing going on in her life.
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And it's like, Oh yeah, just totally move in.
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It's practically. Like you're part of the
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furniture. It's.
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Like, he does so many things like that.
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And then it's not until later you get why?
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I don't know if you picked up the little.
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Like, it was me that put your name forward.
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And I'm like, you're just as obsessed with her.
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It's Corey and him all over again.
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Like, it's both of them. They both fell in love with her
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because of her writing. And I'm like, Jerry or not.
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OK, here's my thing. We're spoiling.
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We're jumping right ahead and then we'll go back.
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Jeremy is very Corey and Lowen is very Verity.
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She's doing very Verity things, but it's hidden in there by
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Verity being worse. Well, they have so much in
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common to begin with, yes. Verity.
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Didn't even know this Lowen girl how?
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Fucking pissed, would you be if you were.
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Verity Yeah, you'd have some random girl in your house.
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Some were hitting on younger replacement.
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A younger replacement. I fucking your husband at any
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point. Also, April Verity's nurse #1
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fan of her. She clocked it day one, but who?
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Wouldn't clock that. Oh, I.
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Mean. It's Jeremy's fault.
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He made it look so bad and it's. Just so.
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Typical. Yep.
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And also stop. I have a feeling April knew
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Verity was fine. There's no must be a way.
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She must have known because she was all like them up and down.
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Yeah, I don't know. Surely you know you're you're
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spoon feeding her every 5 minutes.
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There's going to be a time where your eyes connect to hers and
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then you're. Like, sorry girl.
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Sorry girl, but if I'm getting paid, make it easy.
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If I was pretending to be someones nurse, I'd be loving it
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'cause you getting paid the same, but if I had to fucking
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wipe your Gooch. And you don't, actually.
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Need me to? I'm a bit like girl.
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The jib is up. Just pretend you have your own
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shower. I'll just sit in the corner.
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We'll lock the door and knit. I don't know.
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Fuck me. I don't know if April's in on
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it, but she's kind of. It doesn't technically matter.
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No, it doesn't. But I feel like she is.
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Yeah, it's cannon. It's cannon.
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We need a little gavel. I just feel like April's the
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smartest one out of this entire book.
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April was not here for anyone's shit.
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April was here for the paycheck, and I respect that.
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And she was here for respecting Verity.
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She was just not. About.
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It she was just here for the business.
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Like, fuck Verity, but still. Couldn't even.
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What do we really know about Lowen at the start, apart from
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she's poor, she doesn't like her mom.
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She's. Poor she's.
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Depressed, she had a situationship with her agent.
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And then? They like.
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Hooked up the 1st. Night he gave her a compliment.
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So self esteem in the trash. It's in the trash.
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But he also was really suss than Jeremy.
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And he's like, watch out for Jeremy, but also, if you're
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moving into someone's secluded mansion, yeah, I'd be like,
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watch out for anybody. And his whole family's fucking
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dead. Literally.
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Literally. This is the start of one of
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those conjuring of, like, haunted house.
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Literally. It's the start of every kind of
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Agatha Christie. Like what?
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What? You're just dumb at this point.
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You know what? Pissed me off more than
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anything, and it happened throughout the book.
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Lowen kept going. Oh, I'm scared.
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I have to leave immediately. And she would keep saying that.
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She doesn't even. Leave for fuck off she's.
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Like. In this house forever, she never
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leaves. I think the house itself is like
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haunting her a little. Bit.
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So it should She's getting sucked into the weird.
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Yeah. Family curse that's going on.
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Oh, lock your door. Go stay in a hotel.
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Just be like I'm not comfortable staying here.
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Pay for my hotel? Exactly.
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He's willing to pay for everything else He would've Fuck
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Lowen girls. Stupid girls, dumb girls dumb.
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Why are you getting the feels for a guy?
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Who's. Why just lost his two twin
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daughters recently and his wife technically in this horrible
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accident? Why?
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I don't care what manuscript you're reading, if he's the
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character in it, why are you getting the hops for the sex
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scene? With the trauma, the abuse
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extent, I would be so horrified. I know she was doing exactly
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what Corey was doing with her character, even though it's a
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manuscript. Why are you falling in love with
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Jeremy? Because you're reading him in a
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book, you're doing the same thing.
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True, This book was giving really Walmart version of Gone
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Girl. I've never oh.
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OK, so it's I've been called Thriller.
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Yeah, and the chick is psycho, but this is way less satisfying.
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Stupid. When I started reading the
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manuscript parts, I was like, Verity is a nine year old woman.
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She writes sex scenes like a 90 year old woman.
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The sex scenes scared me. I actually had no interest in
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any sex scenes. None of her.
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And Jeremy's? None of Lowen and Jeremy's.
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I actually skimmed them so quickly because they were trash.
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Why was she being? Drowned in cum.
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All the time, all the time, all the time, any time.
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She had to manipulate Jeremy. She's like, I know he loves
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having his Dicks. Yeah.
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Oh my. God.
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Oh my. God.
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She was. Spilling the tea, so at least I
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was a bit like. A jaw and hinge.
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Huh. A jaw.
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I'm. Here.
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Like this? Is.
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A horror movie. This is fun.
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Do not visualize anything in this book because you will have
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nightmares for days. I surprisingly didn't have
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nightmares, which I'm really glad about oral sex.
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This girl was addicted to sex, no doubt.
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Yeah, no doubt. Or at least the character she
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was creating in the manuscript was.
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Yeah, So Lohan's reading this and she's thinking like fangirl
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over Jerry. She she is rubbing one out to
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the manuscript. You can't tell me otherwise.
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She's sitting in that office, windows open, just staring at
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that man on the dock rubbing one out, dusty manuscript which was
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never supposed to be seen the light of day.
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You know, Also this was giving haunting Adeline because skip to
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the skip to the end, bitch. You're a writer.
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It does not take you like 6 months to read one
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autobiography. Skip to the important shit,
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bitch. And she would just what?
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Fold it back up and put it away? And like, oh, are you telling me
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you're reading some crazy traumatic Verity needs to be put
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in jail shit. And you're like, I'll just read
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another chapter tomorrow. I would have stayed up all
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fucking night same. And it would take, what, a total
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of 12 hours at Max to read the whole thing.
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Is it like a fucking 10,000 page biography?
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Calm down. Read it all in one go on the
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first night and then get out of there.
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Take it for just like, you know. What I'm going to see how it
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works. Go read it at A.
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Fucking coffee shop like a normal person?
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Exactly. Take it out of the premises,
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Yeah. And also, she was supposed to be
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working on the fictional series, which we heard nothing about, by
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the way. I was pissed about.
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Not until the end to the epilogue where she was like I.
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Read it. You're.
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Telling me that she was putting in like 8 to 10 hours of this
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new series within the back of my.
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In her mind, she's got this personalized confession.
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No, I'm reading that first, and she kept saying I'll just read a
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little bit more. I feel like I'm rummaging around
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in Verity's undie drawer. Not only was she rummaging, she
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was putting them on and rubbing one out.
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She was putting them on and rubbing them out.
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And then she was also trying to replicate bits of the
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manuscript. There was a bit where she copied
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what she was doing in the manuscript.
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Get a life, Get a life. You're telling me you you're
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red, so I'm getting a head. You're telling me you read a
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thing where she sits on her pillow, Verity humps a pillow.
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She bites the headboard. You're just going to copy that.
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You're just going to grow up on their pillows that Verity
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probably humped and bite the exact same spot on her
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headboard, and you're not going to think you're fucking crazy.
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How much sleepwalking cover Crazy because?
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Like there's no excuse. Like, fucking hell, At the
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start, when she asked for a lock, I was like, that's
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literally fair. I don't want some Creek called
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Jeremy walking in on me changing.
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And then when he acted weird about it, I was like.
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And then he he was offended that she might have been scared of
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him, like his whole family hasn't just passed away.
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Literally. Like him and the only son are
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left. That's not the creepiest thing
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in the world. That's the most creepiest thing
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in the world. You know what, though?
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So she's. Accepted that she's going to
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stay in this house. For two weeks between when she
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gets a new apartment and she's like, OK, the paycheck will hit.
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Yeah, I'll have my new apartment and I can move out.
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And by then I've already read all my notes, right?
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So she's there one night, just walking around the house.
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And then? She hears this bed going and
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then she's like, that sounds like Jeremy's humping her.
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Yeah, and she was just she was ready to call the police.
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And what she? Thought she would excuse.
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Jeremy. Literally lobbing off.
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Bury his head in front of her. I actually feel like she would
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be the one to walk upstairs and peek.
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She's such a pika. She is and she would justify it.
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She'd be like, oh, she looks. Like she was awake.
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She looked like she was happy. I've read the manuscript.
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She's a little bit of a nympho. So it's fine.
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I can't. Lowen would, but she's freaking
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out internally. This was the first time.
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She's like, I should probably get out of here.
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And then he comes up behind her like, mellow like.
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It's the. Scariest thing that happened in
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this whole book. Jump scare.
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Literally by. So yeah, Jeremy just pops up
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behind her. Get.
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This. Though he goes, yeah, that's her
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really expensive mechanical bed that moves her body around so
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she doesn't get bed sores and stuff.
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I'll turn it off if the noise is bothering you.
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Yeah, Yeah. You're gonna let your coma and
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toes, Wife. You're just gonna let her get
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bed sores because this bitch who moved in yesterday is like.
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Oh, it's a bit owl. It's a bit.
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Loud like she can't put in fucking headphones.
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She's a night owl. Anyway.
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Honestly, at this point I think we're on Red flag fucking 5000,
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which is like night one. You can't hate your wife that
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much. You're going to turn it off
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until ever this bitch decides to leave.
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She could be here forever. She's homeless.
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She could never leave. She didn't know that yet,
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though. She thought she could just.
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Not pay rent for an indefinite time and she wouldn't get
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blacklisted. This.
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Bitch. She was pre approved.
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She wasn't even approved. That's how dumb dumb this bitch
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is. She wasn't.
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The guy on the phone was like no, you're no you're on a list.
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She doesn't really bond with Crew because Crew's got this
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weird kind of vibe, and he tends to say things as if Verity's
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currently talking to him. And in the back of her mind,
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she's like, wait, Verity's the problem, right?
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Because it couldn't be Jeremy so.
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Obviously. Yeah, Verity's laugh.
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Verity's fine. She's.
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Fine, to be fair. Verity was.
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Mind fucking the shit out of Lowen and you can't tell me she
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wasn't doing it on purpose. Because there was the 1st.
22:29
Instant. I'm sure she didn't do it on
22:32
purpose, where she was waving to crew, but Lowen ran upstairs and
22:36
she was like, Oh no, the fans on but the TVA off.
22:39
And then Verity would do shit like she knew Lowen would know
22:43
the TVA on and then she'd turn it off and then get back into
22:46
bed. You can't tell me she wasn't
22:48
doing that to want the shit out of her.
22:50
Well, maybe she just wanted her to leave.
22:52
But wouldn't you? You're already bamboozling your
22:55
husband and your kid. Yeah, now he's an extra person.
22:58
Yeah, that's terrified of you. So she should be.
23:01
That's basically a replacement. You 100% you can't tell me
23:05
Jeremy was not as obsessed. What could be that good about
23:10
this first book of hers, this debut?
23:11
Book this indie book. What could be that good?
23:14
Nothing if it's the same writing style as Coho.
23:20
OK, so my prediction at this time, I wrote this down before I
23:23
kept reading. That was either Jeremy read her
23:26
memoir and then got her in the car accident on purpose as
23:29
revenge, or he was smart enough to write the memoir afterwards
23:35
to blame Verity in her perspective for everything that
23:37
went wrong. But he was the one who killed
23:40
them. Which is?
23:41
Way better ending. The way better.
23:45
Than go. Honestly.
23:47
You've taken some of these writers out with your ideas,
23:49
isn't? That.
23:51
A better idea, though. Jeremy is such a fan of writing
23:54
that he faked the whole memoir. Lo and dum dum come along and
23:58
read it and thought it was actually Verity at this point
24:02
was very much. Verity's getting her revenge for
24:06
her lack of attention, and she was getting her attention by
24:13
being crematose. Yeah.
24:14
Because she's a sex. Addict.
24:16
You can't tell me she wasn't. She hated her children.
24:19
And at this point I was like, she's getting revenge by being a
24:22
burden. What are you basing that on it?
24:25
OK, so at the end you have to make a decision.
24:27
Do you believe that the real Verity is the memoir version and
24:32
that was her real account of things?
24:33
Or do you believe that it was the letter Verity, which was
24:37
her? The memoir was a writing
24:39
exercise. I have a big theory about this,
24:41
and for me, for me, because I know it's Team Manuscript and
24:46
Team Letter, I feel like they're the same person.
24:49
I don't think there is a different team.
24:50
I think if you think about the letter a lot more, it's the same
24:53
with the book. Where you miss certain things
24:55
about Lowen is literally Verity. They're the same person.
25:00
They do very similar manipulative things.
25:02
But when you take in a lot of things in the letter, she openly
25:05
admits she drowned her daughter and then she blames it on
25:10
Jeremy. So I feel like she wrote it as a
25:13
way she was going to leave. And then she was trying to get
25:17
back at Jeremy. She said something like you told
25:20
me to take him out on the water. It wasn't that deep.
25:23
Me as a person, if it wasn't that deep, I can stand in it
25:26
fine. And then immediately after,
25:28
she's like me and crew, we're going to drown.
25:31
So why are you in the water so deep that you're going to drown
25:34
if it's not that deep? Yeah, because she's like, oh, we
25:37
went out further without me noticing.
25:39
Yeah, no, I honestly think this was her trying to.
25:42
Cover it up. Afterwards.
25:43
Yeah. So the memoir is real.
25:45
I reckon She tried to destroy it, remember?
25:48
Yeah, she tried to destroy it. But I also feel like she
25:51
admitted to everything in the letter and blamed it on Jeremy.
25:54
Jeremy, when he read that letter, he went psychotic and he
25:58
didn't know that was the truth until then.
26:00
Oh, well, he didn't read the letter.
26:01
He only read the oh, no. I mean, when he read the
26:03
manuscript, he didn't know about it.
26:05
And apparently, in her letter, she had already read the
26:08
manuscript. But he hadn't, so he went full
26:12
psycho after he read the manuscript.
26:14
You know what's hilarious? Jeremy was able to, in one
26:17
sitting, read the manuscript. But Owen took.
26:20
This entire book, yeah. But I'm like, there is no way
26:24
the letter is real if he had that reaction when he read the
26:27
manuscript. Also, why would someone commit?
26:32
To. Method acting their entire life
26:36
through this manuscript. But then she did, because she
26:39
pretended to be injured. For.
26:41
Ages as well. So I'm I'm like, what?
26:43
There was like an interview of Colleen Hoover and she said she
26:47
was confused by writing it. But she reckons very.
26:50
Yeah. Yeah.
26:51
She was confused from writing perspectives, but she believes
26:54
Verity is evil and I OK, cool, I agree because there is no if
26:59
your kid, OK if your daughter died and you had that kind of
27:04
biography. Wouldn't you fucking?
27:05
Burn it? Wouldn't you feel guilty?
27:07
Yeah, but instead, she didn't feel guilty.
27:10
She went. And yeah, I love that the author
27:13
can't even. Claim she can't even she's like.
27:16
So anyway, going back to the start, she's there like one
27:20
night. Lo.
27:23
And he starts calling her. Lo starts a nickname, which is
27:25
just like but calls her Laura to everyone else.
27:28
But I have a feeling because Verity wrote in a letter too, he
27:32
was sitting at this table, ignoring me on your phone.
27:36
What if she? Knew he was obsessed with Lowen,
27:39
maybe because she said he was reading an ebook that was like
27:44
she than hers or whatever, and he was trying to hide the fact
27:47
that he was obsessed with Lowen. Yuck.
27:51
Do you reckon? He would have googled what she
27:52
looks like. Yeah.
27:53
I don't even know what Lolan looks like.
27:55
Do you? No.
27:57
Or the only person I know is varied.
27:59
Is hot, hot, skinny, blonde, massive titties.
28:02
Maybe. Maybe.
28:03
Maybe. Maybe.
28:04
So Laurie was just. Reading.
28:06
The manuscript amongst all this trauma and then just fantasizing
28:09
about banging Jeremy and she's like, oh, the vibe is so there
28:13
and I can't do it. And like she was giving Ariana
28:17
Grande still your man on 1000%. Yeah, she was obsessed.
28:24
But for what like? This woman is in the bedroom.
28:27
Above you. I have some respect.
28:29
I don't. I've never.
28:31
OK. I have never.
28:32
Met a man where I'm that obsessed that I'm like his
28:35
comatose wife is upstairs. Can't wait to pull the wool over
28:38
his comatose wife at that point. Just fucking Pillower, honestly.
28:44
Unhook whatever machines that are connected to her.
28:46
Not that it matters anyway. She's fine.
28:49
She just gets up. She's.
28:50
Keeping a knife from the floor? Yeah, what was with that little
28:53
hidey hole? Also, why would?
28:55
She. Hiding a knife.
28:58
Who was she going to stab? Crew accidentally stabbed
29:01
himself? Stabbed himself in the hand.
29:04
Was she trying to kill crew? Like who?
29:06
No, he got himself in the chin. Oh, I thought.
29:09
Oh, the blood maybe was on his hands.
29:10
Yeah. I just.
29:12
Do you reckon? She was stashing the knife in
29:14
case she had to use it. I just don't know.
29:16
She was paranoid as fuck and not at any point until right at the
29:20
end did she see Verity walk around.
29:22
She was just going off a hunch, yeah, but that's what she wanted
29:26
to believe. So I feel like.
29:28
Sometimes what Loewen was seeing was what she wanted to see,
29:30
because Jeremy never fucking physically saw it.
29:33
Yeah. So she could have been going.
29:35
Cuckoo because she's got this. Condition the sleepwalking.
29:38
But she also might have a bit of psychosis, right?
29:41
So I feel like a bit of Loewen was trying to justify not
29:44
feeling guilty because Verity is an evil bitch, so I can take her
29:48
man, because she's evilly staring at me from that window
29:52
or whatever. Why wouldn't?
29:53
She. She lives there.
29:54
She has every right. She every right window.
29:57
She has every right to look wherever she's looking.
29:59
Who? Are we rooting?
30:00
For none. Of.
30:01
Those. April, April Is it check girl
30:06
for no reason? She don't even have to be.
30:08
Like lowering at some point got caught staring at Jeremy out the
30:12
window and he's like. Who's.
30:14
Even making the food, because Jeremy's just heating up
30:17
leftovers. You'd think they could afford a
30:19
chef slash nurse or something, or a housekeeper.
30:23
He's like, what is your favorite food?
30:25
Also, he whipped up a cake out of nothing and then sing.
30:29
When he was making pizza, she was like, OK, great.
30:32
And then it said I hate pizza, so go buy your own food, bitch.
30:37
You're a little freeloading bitch.
30:38
Excuse to just. Be a pick me for Jeremy.
30:42
She would take even just food. Just how hard is it to say I
30:46
don't like my pizza? She is.
30:48
So desperate. This is what I hated about it.
30:51
She is so desperate for Jeremy, but she's so desperate to be
30:55
Verity. Yeah, every step.
30:57
Yeah, even their sex scene. She was like, I'm going to bite
30:59
harder into the headboard. I would be.
31:02
Offended. He would be making me sleep in
31:04
their bitten headboard. Exactly.
31:06
That's a bit too much. Why are you dead ass biting?
31:10
Into. Her bite marks, she was like,
31:12
oh, there's a whole headboard just for me.
31:14
But I'm going to bite and share it, OK?
31:16
You fucking Gopher. Leave it alone.
31:19
Fucking weird little bitch. She's the weirdest little bitch.
31:24
She. Is so.
31:25
You know that. She's got these goldfish eyes
31:27
like, little like boggling out of her head.
31:29
Oh, and honestly, there was a bit right where Jeremy never
31:34
read any of Verity's stuff. Was he?
31:39
Illiterate. No, I'm thinking.
31:41
But he only read Lowen's and I'm like, was he obsessed with Lowen
31:44
or was he a shit partner? Because wouldn't she be so
31:47
excited? Wouldn't she want to know how
31:50
your bills are being paid? Wouldn't she want to know how
31:53
she's the biggest and my? Seller right now.
31:55
He's like, oh, she it's just scary being on her head.
31:59
Wouldn't you just be fascinated by how creative this fucking
32:02
woman is? I thought he read her original
32:05
first draft. He did and he thought it was
32:07
amazing, but then he keep reading her stuff, but then he
32:10
was too scared to read her stuff.
32:13
I'm like he got too intimidated because he wasn't the man at the
32:15
house anymore. 100. Percent.
32:17
And he had to become that. Stay at home, Dad.
32:19
Honestly. And he was pissed when she
32:21
literally took the kids to daycare.
32:23
Yeah, although she was psychotic.
32:24
She would unplug the monitors. Honestly, this is where I was
32:29
like, I hope she dies. The fact that they were crying
32:32
all day and also the weird love for Chaston and not Harper.
32:37
Yep. I don't think they're probably
32:38
going to talk about any of that because it is horrible.
32:41
It is horrible to read. That's if the manuscript is
32:43
true, but it was still horrible to read because I I think it's
32:46
true as you're reading it. I really think it is true
32:49
because she only wrote that after she seen Lowen banging her
32:53
husband. So really, I reckon the letter
32:56
was flown. Yeah.
32:57
So there is non-stop oral sex with very Jeremy in that
33:02
manuscript for whatever reason. I don't know why it was always
33:05
oral. She looks up at him and he's
33:07
like, How many women have sucked your Dick?
33:09
And he was just like. Oh, like 30.
33:12
He says 20 for. Shame, Jeremy.
33:17
For shame. You little hoe, Jeremy, you
33:20
little hoe. Disgusting things are none one
33:25
sitting here acting like he's a house husband.
33:28
He's not. He's for the street.
33:30
He is. How did he even get?
33:32
Cuffed up. I'm so confused.
33:34
I'm surprised he didn't try. Fuck April.
33:36
Honestly, she probably did. That's why she was eyeballed.
33:40
Alone but like. What the hell is this?
33:42
Jeremy. What kind of what?
33:44
Just fucking lottery is this shit.
33:47
He. Needs to be stoned.
33:51
He's. Only. 30 something And they were
33:53
together for ages. Well, true, they were together.
33:58
It'd been nine years, I reckon. Yeah.
33:59
So they've been together nearly a decade.
34:01
Yeah. So that just.
34:03
What? Yeah, honestly, that's an old
34:06
man when you think about it, because he's being just chewed
34:09
up, spat out. At this point, he's fucking
34:11
ready to go into a retirement home and he's out here getting
34:15
Dick down. He's not.
34:18
He's not husband material. No.
34:20
Like his value is on the floor, through the floor.
34:25
It's like Earth core level. I wouldn't even look at that man
34:27
on the street. Is he even a person?
34:30
He has STI's up the Duff, up the poof off.
34:37
I just, I can't feel anything about this man anymore, 'cause
34:41
he's just lost my respect this. Is my favorite bit.
34:51
Like, how dare he. Foul.
34:53
Disgusting. He needs to be.
34:55
Punished. Death row.
34:56
At this point, everyone needs to stand in the street screaming
35:00
shame and throwing stones. Throwing stones because of his
35:04
pencil Dick. It has been used up, worn down,
35:07
sharpened to a tee. There's nothing left, There's.
35:10
Nothing left. The skin has been exfoliated to
35:13
nothing. That's not the kind of quality
35:15
of man that should produce offspring at that point, because
35:18
like, he's been used up so he's infertile.
35:21
The sperm like, is watered down. Yeah, with every ejaculation it
35:26
is less and less quality. Verity.
35:29
Didn't even. Know.
35:30
That Lowe existed, and that was like the first call out Later,
35:35
when Jeremy admits that he was the one that fell in love with
35:38
her stupid debut book, yes, and admits that he's the one who put
35:42
her name forward, Wouldn't that be the biggest red flag out of
35:45
pretty much all of them? That's what I mean.
35:47
Like that is Corey can't complain about Corey and then
35:50
Jeremy do the same thing. He had essentially trapped you
35:53
in his house and he hand picked you.
35:56
Hand picked you had nothing to do with Verity.
35:59
Honestly, everyone is de Lulu. The.
36:03
Whole Everyone's de Lulu. So.
36:07
Things are heating up between Jeremy and the Captive though.
36:11
Like obviously they are kissing properly for the first time.
36:16
Verity is just. Bugging in the background,
36:18
standing, staring at them. And that's the only.
36:21
Reason that Lowe stops? Yeah, if Verity wasn't in the
36:25
background, she would not stop. Are you kidding?
36:29
Yeah. Would it keep going?
36:30
And that's why I think she's De Lulu.
36:34
This man's just a sex psychic. He actually has no interest in
36:37
her as a person. I don't think it just gets
36:40
progressively worse, but. Also, why is he so?
36:42
Lovingly affectionate to her. Because I.
36:44
Hadn't even had sex yet, and he was broken her hair, holding
36:47
onto her in the bed and stuff. And I was like, yeah, cuddling
36:51
because she was scared of his current host wives upstairs.
36:55
But he was acting like she's the replacement.
36:58
He. Obviously thought his wife was
37:00
horrible. You can't convince me otherwise.
37:02
If your wife is upstairs, why would you even be interested in
37:07
cuddling some random chick? Exactly.
37:09
Go cuddle your wife. Go read her book, you fucking
37:12
Dick. He's found me.
37:14
Well, he was lying the whole time because he had already read
37:17
everything, obviously. Yeah.
37:19
So why drag this? Poor.
37:21
Replacement girl into this mess, yeah.
37:25
She can't fucking write. Just.
37:27
Go on a dating app. And.
37:29
Go do your adultery in a hotel like a normal person.
37:32
Absolutely. Was he just too?
37:35
Slack Like he's like, you know what, I'm just going to do a
37:37
2IN1. I'm going to get this book
37:38
contract and I'm going to make her fuck me.
37:40
Yeah, for free. Yeah, because that's what it
37:43
seems like. He was just too lazy.
37:44
He just outsourced it. Just go date and tell people
37:47
that you've got a comatose wife. Fucking weirdo.
37:50
People wouldn't even care. Well, even when he goes shopping
37:54
with her at Target or whatever, some of Verity's friends point
37:57
it out. They're like, and he's like, I'm
38:00
just getting on their level, pointing out the guy she's
38:02
sleeping with. I'm like, you weren't even
38:04
sleeping with this bitch at this point.
38:05
Why is he trying to be on the moral high horse?
38:08
And Lo loved it. She ate it up.
38:09
She was like. And he.
38:11
Was like and she's like, I love it when calm is reserved for
38:14
people like that. You don't even know this lady,
38:18
and also you don't know that Jeremy is not a psycho.
38:21
This is when Jeremy started locking Lowen from the outside
38:26
of her room because he found out about the sleepwalking.
38:28
Yep, she woke up. In.
38:31
Verities bed very didn't do a thing.
38:35
And she was, practically. About to hump.
38:36
Verity. That's because she's.
38:38
So. Obsessed with her.
38:39
She's so obsessed with Verity. I would have suffocated that
38:43
bitch in my bed if you were Verity though, because you're
38:45
pretending. Wouldn't she be rolling around
38:48
all the time? Snoring?
38:50
I don't know, doing normal stuff in the bed?
38:52
Maybe She can like her brain. Still kind of works.
38:56
Yeah, but she's literally. Pretending to be injured so
38:59
well, they lock her in her room, so you never know.
39:01
They get to a point where Jeremy starts looking very in her room.
39:04
Yeah, both of them. Yeah, because Ono I lo scared of
39:07
her. What Leave?
39:10
Yeah, exactly. She doesn't even.
39:12
Have to be here. The only reason why she?
39:14
Stayed is because conveniently, her apartment she was
39:17
blacklisted and she couldn't move into a new apartment and I
39:20
was like, oh, you know, she never moved out.
39:22
She went straight from. Being homeless.
39:25
Living in this creepy mansion and then in a relationship with
39:28
him, Yeah, and that's where it just gets worse and worse.
39:32
I actually, there's one moment I'm proud of Verity and it's
39:35
when they start hooking up and Lo is screaming in her face.
39:40
She's like, I hope you choke. I'm going to go fuck your
39:43
husband in your bed because you know, I'm so obsessed with you
39:46
and I just want to wear your skin.
39:48
And Verity pisses herself. And to me at the time, I was
39:52
like, that's fat. And I was like, no, it's so
39:54
smart because April's gone home for the day, April's left it
39:57
downstairs for the first time in ever, and then Jeremy has to go
40:02
clean her up, put her into bed for like 2-3 hours.
40:06
That's what you get, bitch. You're so thirsty for her
40:08
husband that all she had to do was piss herself.
40:12
This point, she doesn't even want to be with Jeremy.
40:14
This is the long con so that she can quote UN quote escape with
40:17
crew. Yeah.
40:18
Her plan at this stage wasn't to get back with Jeremy.
40:21
Yeah, it was to leave his ass, 'cause he's just as crazy as
40:24
she. I I don't really reckon she was
40:25
just saving face. I don't think she would have
40:28
left. Really.
40:30
Yeah. I don't think she would have
40:30
left. So you think she if she maybe.
40:32
Yeah. If she was that obsessed with
40:34
Jeremy, she would have interrupted before they had sex.
40:37
She wouldn't have let this chick have sex with him.
40:40
No. She would have killed.
40:41
Her before she had sex, it was true.
40:43
But I also don't think she would have taken crew.
40:45
There's no way that girl liked any of her children.
40:48
She. Liked.
40:49
Cruz. Is it just because he's a boy?
40:51
I think so, yeah, Because he's not a threat, I suppose.
40:55
Because she kept mentioning it. That was the plan.
40:57
And that's what Lo was paranoid about.
40:59
She's like, she's going to pop open and be alive and take root
41:02
just to spite Jeremy. But that was what she was
41:05
saying. Not long after they end up still
41:07
having sex. Right after anyway.
41:11
They, like, fucked all night. They fucked all night.
41:13
But he didn't have a condom. And he she wasn't on the pill.
41:17
And now we're just like, I'll pull out.
41:19
That's all right. That's going to be fine.
41:21
Because she goes, yeah, that's all right.
41:22
And then he's like, all right. But he did successfully pull out
41:26
that time. It was a different story later,
41:28
which was even more, which is worse?
41:31
They have sex. One, it's the most mediocre sex
41:34
scene I've ever read in my life, which is fine.
41:36
But two, she's like. For half.
41:38
An hour? He was just switching me in
41:40
positions. Half an hour is not that much.
41:42
Why are you impressed? Take a shot for every time that
41:45
Verity wrote down that she was washing a chicken.
41:48
Oh my God. When she finds.
41:50
About out about Chaston, yeah. Yeah.
41:53
She was washing. A chicken.
41:55
She was washing a chicken. Honestly, she was washing
41:58
washing a chicken and then she vomited on the chicken.
42:00
I was like, this is the worst part of the book.
42:05
A raw chicken. First of all, you don't wash it.
42:07
You fucking kill the germs in the oven when you cook it.
42:10
Bitch. Honestly, that's how we do it.
42:13
That's the most strange. It's America that washes their
42:16
chicken and I don't understand it.
42:18
I do not understand it. You're spreading the salmonella
42:20
everywhere. That's what I like.
42:23
Yuck. What?
42:26
Why is your? Chicken, that slimy.
42:27
Also. That's the real question.
42:30
You know what? I just wanted to at this point.
42:32
And I know this is the manuscript version, but I wanted
42:34
to grab Verity and shake her and just be like Harper's got
42:39
Aspergers. She's not trying to kill chest
42:42
off, just she's constantly like. Harper.
42:47
'S because I had a nightmare about it.
42:48
Harper's purposefully trying to kill.
42:51
Chest off this whole fucking book.
42:53
You know what's? Fucked about that, right?
42:55
She's blaming this on Harper like she didn't shut the door on
42:59
her four week old babies and let them starve to death all day.
43:02
How are you? Better.
43:03
She's acting like she didn't multiple times try to abort them
43:08
in utero. And then she's.
43:10
Like, how dare this child? How?
43:12
Dare. I'm like I have been abusing
43:15
them day in and day out by this, but she immediately.
43:18
Goes. I looked at Harper, and she
43:20
clearly did it. You know why?
43:23
Because. Harper was the one who scratched
43:25
Chester's face, and then she's grand.
43:28
With it, she's. Like yes.
43:30
I really think she's so deep in her own mind.
43:34
She's like, finally someone to blame.
43:36
Who's responsible? Not Jeremy.
43:38
No, not by myself. Harper, honestly, she was just
43:45
geared up to kill Harper. She was so excited at that
43:48
point, she just told someone. She has the towel.
43:52
She lives on her own. She's.
43:54
Mad because. Jeremy wouldn't let her get her
43:56
job. Back.
43:57
He's. Kind.
43:58
Of low key abusive they both are.
44:00
He's kind of in the way. Subtle controlling.
44:03
Yeah, because he feels intimidated by her, so he would
44:08
go around. Acting the victim.
44:10
And that's what. I mean the whole entire book, if
44:12
you actually pay attention, which was really hard, not going
44:15
to lie, struggled, struggled to the house.
44:19
They're. All just as abusive as each
44:21
other. You know what Lohan's?
44:24
Not a girl's girl, but Verity's. Not a girl's girl, obviously
44:28
either, but. You're.
44:29
Allowed to be obsessed with your husband like she was obsessed
44:33
with her own husband. But Lauren is obsessed with some
44:37
other woman's husband. That's even worse.
44:39
That's that's fair. A whole new universe of pygmy
44:43
energy. And honestly, she's.
44:45
Your own man. She's your own husband.
44:49
She wants her even. Corey didn't want.
44:51
Her. No, I think.
44:52
That's why she her self esteem is so far on the ground.
44:56
She knows she'll never live up to Verity in her career, and she
45:00
knows she could never pull Jeremy without the situation.
45:05
If. Verity was alive and alert.
45:08
Jeremy wouldn't even. Look at.
45:09
Her. And she wants to be her so bad.
45:13
That's why she locks him in, literally.
45:15
When they're fucking, she locks him in with her legs, yeah?
45:20
And then she fucking holds the sperm in.
45:23
I'm like. Bitch.
45:24
That was the point. I was like you were.
45:26
No. I was like you were no better
45:28
than Verity. This is when I actually started
45:30
thinking about the book. I was like, she is no better
45:32
than Verity. She's like, absolutely, I'm
45:35
going to trap this poor man. And she hadn't even read the end
45:37
of the manuscript either. You didn't even know if Jeremy
45:40
knew about this kind of stuff yet.
45:42
And you're still going to be like, you know, what's a good
45:45
thing to do right now is to bring another child into this.
45:47
Well, she even says he deserves to be with someone who will put
45:50
her love for his children before anything else.
45:53
And that's when I was like, oh, wait, what's happening?
45:57
Children? He's got one.
45:59
And then she goes. And then I put my the pillow up
46:02
and I didn't move and I was like, oh, also, it ended up
46:06
being a girl. Of course.
46:07
Yeah, of course. Of course.
46:09
And honestly, I don't like Jeremy, but give this man a
46:13
fucking break. Also.
46:14
I know. Just let him.
46:16
Be it is his own fault. Just don't get involved with
46:19
someone. Yeah, but he's so like he's
46:21
mentally not there. You can't tell him he is.
46:23
And you're like, yeah, let's just wrap him with a fucking
46:26
baby. He's definitely on autopilot.
46:29
She's just morphing into Verity as hard as she can.
46:33
I never asked you if you were team Manuscript or if you were
46:36
team letter. What are you feeling?
46:39
When I had just read it, I thought I was team letter.
46:42
Yeah, but then I'm like. There would be no need to.
46:44
Stretch out faking the injury for so long unless you were
46:48
guilty. Yeah, because why would you go
46:50
to that length when you could literally leave, get safe.
46:54
Yeah. And then you are the victim.
46:57
It doesn't make any sense. And also if you were writing
46:59
some sort of manuscript like that, wouldn't you prep your
47:03
husband? Would you be like, I'm writing
47:05
this manuscript? I do not feel this way.
47:08
I might need a little mental support regarding I hate.
47:12
I also wouldn't have that in my house.
47:14
I know. What if your kid finds it and
47:15
they're like? And your.
47:17
Children actually died. What if this got leaked online
47:20
somehow? Someone hacked your G Drive,
47:22
your Google Drive, and then they were just like, yeah, Verity.
47:27
Is. Insane, yeah.
47:29
And also if she went to so many lengths to throw it out.
47:33
How did LO just magically? Find it.
47:35
Apart from Jeremy obviously putting it right there, because
47:37
that's what he would have done. Yeah.
47:39
Come on, girl. You didn't look hard enough.
47:40
I feel like she didn't have the opportunity to check the house
47:44
until Lo was there. And then Lori found it first and
47:48
obviously had it with her all the time in the letter.
47:51
He deleted it off our computer. But I'm like the reaction he
47:54
had. He gets the manuscript, he reads
47:57
it and then he's like Verity, if you don't open your eyes right
48:00
now, I'm going to the place and you'll never see crew again.
48:03
And then he goes, what the fuck was going on?
48:05
And she was like, I can explain when you already said that you
48:09
did that. So I'm like, wouldn't you like
48:13
as low anytime throughout this whole book because she keeps
48:17
going, oh, I'm so. Scared.
48:18
Fucking put a little. Camera in her room.
48:21
You could have done that the. Entire time.
48:24
Put one of those video baby monitors the whole time, not at
48:28
the very end for no reason. Oh, sorry.
48:31
If you're smart enough, why would you put it in her room?
48:35
Put it outside her door? Because she knew you'd put it in
48:37
there and that's why she I think she was going for the knife when
48:42
she fell out of bed, but she didn't have to wait till the
48:44
very end. She could.
48:45
Have done it. This whole time, yeah, you could
48:47
have said to Jeremy day one, like, oh, you should really put
48:50
a like a video. Camera in here to make sure.
48:51
April's not sealing stuff like, Oh yeah, like she's actually
48:54
looking after. Yeah.
48:57
Any any excuse? Put it up in the corner.
48:59
What's she? Going to do verity's probably in
49:01
there. Like, if this was my personal
49:02
room, I'd be in there working out twerking, dressing up the
49:08
footage of Verity. Just twerking.
49:09
In the mirror. Like.
49:12
She's supposed to be comatose. Also.
49:16
She's just full. Like ass out.
49:19
She's. Like I need to get some exercise
49:22
in WAP is playing. Just.
49:28
Just imagine her turning ahead and being like April.
49:31
I've bought a shit like, can we literally?
49:33
But how did you as a person who's not Coma Antos?
49:38
Right. Have you sit there and let the?
49:41
Mechanical bed Rotate you all night?
49:44
Get fucked. I'm turning that shit off.
49:46
Well, so. Why did they move her upstairs
49:49
if she's in a fucking wheelchair?
49:51
Wouldn't you keep her on the 1st floor in the master bedroom with
49:55
the duh shooter headboard with the shooter, the fucking little
50:02
toddler bed headboard and the bath down there?
50:06
Like why is she upstairs? You're fucking.
50:09
You're still that whole elevator in your house when you could
50:12
have kept that bitch downstairs. Literally.
50:14
Yeah, and they could have been the ones upstairs making the bed
50:17
noises on very on top, very should see underneath.
50:24
Chewing. We should have free Ranger Own
50:28
offers. You know what, though?
50:31
You mentioned the very end, right?
50:32
So the big climax. Because I was like.
50:34
I don't know where this. Is going to go.
50:36
When I was. Reading it, I thought she was
50:37
fully chromatosis and they were just screaming at a dead lady
50:41
essentially. And I was like, just let her
50:43
live on life support. I don't know.
50:45
And then? She just like.
50:46
Pops her eyes open and she's like.
50:48
Let me explain. At this point.
50:51
Wouldn't. You just chain her up to the
50:54
bed, Yeah, and hear her out. Why do you go straight to
51:01
killing her? I have.
51:02
This is my theory with this, though, is if he read the whole
51:07
manuscript, it's his memory too. So he's probably lining up the
51:12
the memories, lining up her hate for Harper and all the things
51:16
that he lived through. And he's like, actually, I
51:19
noticed that shit because remember, there was like the
51:22
daycare, even knew that she didn't like Harper.
51:25
So I'm assuming all of that happened and he's like, fuck,
51:27
this all makes sense. And then went insane.
51:30
If it wasn't a real manuscript and he read it, he would have
51:32
been like, I don't remember any of this shit, but everything was
51:35
obviously down to AT because she's good.
51:38
Yeah, at that. Point I want to get.
51:40
Answers out of this hoe, I'd be like, why'd you piss yourself
51:43
first of all? When they pull in on this.
51:47
OK, pissy pants, calm down. I'd be like.
51:49
How do you want me to end this stupid?
51:50
Series. I would be.
51:52
Asking her questions. I'd be like, OK, who does the
51:54
main protagonist get with them? I'd be.
51:57
Drilling her for answers about my work that I had to do for
51:59
half $1,000,000 because hello, but instead Lola was like, yeah,
52:02
kill her. Oh, she would?
52:04
Yeah. Fucking take her out the
52:06
competition. Say let's shoot ourselves into a
52:09
bucket up to the moon, and she would say.
52:11
When are we? Leaving.
52:12
I would honestly hand that bitch over to the police, make her rot
52:16
in fucking jail. I think they're too scared that
52:19
she's so manipulative that she'll talk her way out of it.
52:21
Or she could plead insanity and then she'd still be alive.
52:25
She's Cruz's mom, so they're scared of her having rights to
52:28
her own child. Oh my God.
52:30
I do think it's fucking delicious at this point that she
52:34
died the same way she was trying to torture Harper.
52:36
Yeah, And that's the only thing that mattered to me at this
52:39
point. How did Lori know that to do
52:42
that? She's already thought about it.
52:44
She's either already thought about it or that's how her mum
52:46
died. So we both.
52:49
Probably both. She Gypsy Rose, that bitch.
52:53
She did. She's been waiting.
52:55
She was like, she's like, I'm out of dollars at this point.
52:58
You got to go. Well, she found out her mum ran
53:00
out of money and she was so pissed about it.
53:02
She was like, thanks Mum. Why wouldn't Jeremy just put
53:05
that bitch in a home? That's what Loy was trying to
53:08
tell him to do. Also, every single time they
53:12
talked about Verity, Loy was like, just do something for
53:16
yourself. He's not allowed to look after
53:19
his wife. Can you imagine 'cause if it was
53:22
her she'd be like in sickness or in health?
53:25
She'd be like your vows. You've got to look.
53:27
After me, Jeremy. But because it was Verity, she's
53:29
like she's practically. Half in the bin.
53:31
She's. Just sorry, yeah.
53:35
She's like, we could get a nice. Urn.
53:41
We got his goldfisher. She practically is.
53:46
We could just lock the door and fire April, and we'd lock the
53:52
door and light the house on fire.
53:55
And then she. Acted like she hated the house.
53:58
I was like the house did nothing to you, lady.
54:01
She's like, there's too many memories, but she's OK chomping
54:05
on the bit that still has verities DNA on it on the
54:07
headboard. But you're not OK with the whole
54:09
house. What?
54:10
The house do. What the house?
54:12
Throw out the bed. Throw out the.
54:14
What's? Wrong with having memories of
54:16
your children in the. House.
54:18
Fucking kids. She was like those.
54:20
Kids didn't exist until I had a baby girl.
54:23
Yeah, me. We'll worry about crew later.
54:25
Yeah, they killed her straight away.
54:27
For what? Because seriously, I would
54:29
interrogate that bitch for like 48 hours.
54:31
Also, I would interrogate the shit out of crew.
54:34
He knew so much shit. Yeah, he was sneaky.
54:37
I know he's 5, but also how convenient that he goes gets his
54:41
little drawings out of the 1 hidden spot.
54:45
Like if he was drawing for his mom, why would she hide them?
54:49
That letter was bullshit. Oh, it was so bullshit.
54:52
It was just bullshit. No one's doing an exercise for
54:55
like a 10 million word essay when you've got books due.
54:58
I'm like, no one is doing an exercise about torturing your
55:02
kids. I wouldn't write that shit down.
55:05
You wouldn't willingly write down that you murdered your
55:08
daughter and then in the end of the manuscript and then she
55:11
goes, Then I went into a tree. Yeah, I really think she was
55:15
kind of commit suicide as like, fuck you.
55:17
No, fuck you to Jeremy. This is what you get for not
55:20
loving me enough. Good.
55:21
I don't even like good ridders. Bitch get ridders.
55:25
If you actually attempted to kill your kids in that, you
55:28
deserve to go into a tree. Bye.
55:31
Bye. Honestly, I'm slightly
55:33
traumatized by this entire book. I'm very traumatized.
55:35
I was reading bits. I needed breaks.
55:38
I wanted my mum to pick me up. You're like.
55:41
Get Me Out of. Here I was.
55:42
I was so mad. I was saying this is.
55:45
Horrible. Who is this book for?
55:47
I can't. By the time I read the end of
55:49
the book, I was like, I get it. But it's predictable.
55:52
Why would you willingly want to read half of that?
55:55
I'm like and there was no romance.
55:57
There's no fucking romance. No.
55:58
How am I supposed to feel? Good about Jeremy and Lowe.
56:02
Jeremy Breeding kink. Jeremy.
56:06
She was like, immediately. Pregnant.
56:07
I mean, that girl Laura just wanted to wear her skin.
56:11
Verity skin. That's all it was.
56:13
She was so obsessed with this bitch and that's it.
56:15
She just had nothing else going on in her life.
56:17
She was like, let's just adopt an entire identity.
56:20
I feel like Laura was unintentionally leaning into the
56:24
becoming the villain as well. Yeah, she was doing the exercise
56:28
as well. That's what I mean, You can't
56:30
read that and be OK. I know.
56:33
Also, if that was an exercise, wouldn't you put on the front
56:35
page of that manuscript? Yeah, my man.
56:37
Real. Like a little disclaimer, just
56:39
in case someone read it. The funny thing was when Jeremy
56:42
was scared about April. Finding them in bed.
56:45
Together I was like, he cares more about what April things.
56:47
I'm like, dude, you're guilty as fuck.
56:50
If you're not. Ashamed of what you're doing?
56:51
Why does it matter when the fucking nurse comes in?
56:54
Unless he's fucking April too. That's what I think.
56:57
I'm like. April's getting it.
56:59
April's getting also. You can't tell me there is.
57:02
I know they say they put crew into therapy, but that kids
57:06
going to grow up to be a serial killer too.
57:07
You can't tell me otherwise. They keep talking about the kid
57:10
getting therapy. None of the fucking adults are.
57:12
What the hell? They're the ones you.
57:14
Need it? The most of.
57:15
Everybody it it made me. So mad they were like.
57:19
Oh. Hello.
57:22
They didn't even acknowledge Jeremy's grief.
57:25
Yeah, they're like, yeah, he's functioning normal.
57:29
I feel like he's the kind of guy that would just be sitting on
57:31
that dock zoning out, just dissociating for 10 hours.
57:34
There was a bit where they were like, oh, you're building a new
57:37
dock. And he's like, no, I'm ripping
57:38
it down. I'm.
57:39
I want nothing to do with the dock.
57:41
I'd want to go on. He was traumatized, too.
57:44
But then I don't even know if I feel bad for me that I'm just
57:47
making just stupid choices. No, I feel I do not.
57:50
I honestly feel like all the characters were the same
57:52
character. They were just sneaky with Lowen
57:56
and Jeremy. It's funny though, because
57:58
Jeremy admits at the start that he's still in love with Verity.
58:01
Verity was full at her normal yeah capacity he would be with
58:05
Verity. Yeah.
58:06
And Lowe was OK with that, 'cause she was like, oh, I'm
58:10
happy to just be a replacement then.
58:12
No, get alive. You should have moved out the
58:15
moment you started feeling that way.
58:17
But what does she expect is gonna happen?
58:18
It's just happy family. She was so excited when they
58:20
moved out. So at the very end, they're
58:22
obviously together. She's pregnant.
58:23
She knows it's a girl. Yeah.
58:25
So she's like, I'm so glad that I could provide this life for
58:28
Jeremy. He's always gonna be thinking
58:31
about him and Verity. They had that much sex, bitch.
58:35
Good sex. It's like The Notebook, where
58:37
his true love is always going to be Verity.
58:40
Stupid bitch. Yeah, you're just honestly the
58:44
placeholder. The placeholder, forever new and
58:46
fresh, comes along because isn't she Very young, I think.
58:49
She's early. 20s or something, right?
58:51
Because he would be. Him and Verity were together at
58:54
least a decade, so that, well, they got together when he was 27
58:58
and then they had nine years together, so.
59:01
So he's 38. Yeah, essentially.
59:03
Yeah. Yuck.
59:05
He's old. Dating some 23 year old or
59:07
something. Yeah, very neat.
59:09
Should have killed the shit out of her.
59:12
The. Shit out of both of them.
59:14
Honestly, it's just so gross. The next available vagina that
59:19
moves into my house is just going to become my wife.
59:22
How convenient that he is so obsessed with a fresh early 20
59:25
year old that he needs in his house.
59:29
It's giving relationship of convenience and it's giving just
59:34
proximity. She ate that letter and was
59:37
like, I never want anyone to find out that you don't even
59:41
know your own partner. You really think that he already
59:45
knew and made a crash into a car and you're just OK with it?
59:49
Exactly. And not only that, his solution?
59:53
For. Verity, like pretty much opening
59:54
our eyes, was to immediately kill her, which indicates he's
59:58
guilty of something. Yeah, because if he wasn't
1:00:00
guilty, he would hear her out. Yeah.
1:00:03
And the fact that he goes, Oh my God, Lo, let's just fucking kill
1:00:05
her. There's.
1:00:06
Something. The second you do something
1:00:08
wrong, Lo, he's going to fucking kill you.
1:00:10
Yeah, so good luck with that. And why do you eat it?
1:00:14
The toilet is enough, bitch. No one's going to be able to
1:00:17
read. She wanted her words like inside
1:00:19
of her. She's so upset.
1:00:22
When she was like trying to flush the toilet.
1:00:24
I'm like, what are you doing? Okay.
1:00:26
Why did Lowe even need to? I'm going to just take this to
1:00:29
the grave, of course, because the letter indicated that you
1:00:33
were wrong, bitch. The letter saying that this was
1:00:37
an exercise and Verity's a better woman than you, so she
1:00:41
was. Like, oh, I can't face that.
1:00:43
Reality. So she tore it up.
1:00:45
That's the only reason why, when I read the book, I wanted Verity
1:00:48
to be the good mum and it was all an exercise.
1:00:51
Just to be low in the bad guy. That's what I That would have
1:00:54
been amazing, but it could be. That could be my interpretation.
1:00:57
You can just. Choose what you want.
1:00:59
Because I wanted Lowen to be the worst one.
1:01:01
He was too naive and stupid to think a single thing through.
1:01:04
Because she was digmatized. Because she read a couple oral
1:01:07
sex scenes. I It would speak so much better
1:01:10
if he was not that good. And Jeremy was supposed to be so
1:01:14
good because he gave the shirt off his back.
1:01:17
There was blood all over her shirt.
1:01:18
It was a halfway decent thing to do, that there's not a big deal.
1:01:21
Yeah. And why was he always shirtless?
1:01:24
She was always looking at him. And she's like, I've seen him
1:01:26
shirtless before, but like blah blah blah.
1:01:29
You can't tell me crew wasn't picking up on all the vibes when
1:01:32
they went out to dinner that time And she was like, it feels
1:01:34
like a date. There's a 5 year old right next
1:01:36
to you. Psycho.
1:01:37
Traumatized. 5 year old too. Not like AI could just imagine
1:01:41
her coaxing him to finger her under the table or something.
1:01:45
I wouldn't be surprised because she'd be like this is our first
1:01:47
date. And then?
1:01:48
Everyone's like. Oh, cruisy, huh?
1:01:50
Just April sitting right there like, I'm like, he wasn't even
1:01:54
taking you out to dinner. He just felt bad and was taking
1:01:57
you along with crew. They literally they went to
1:02:00
Maccas like farm town. Maccas.
1:02:03
Eat your little French fries and shut the fuck up, bitch.
1:02:06
It was a bare minimum. He has never treated you like he
1:02:09
actually respected you. He was like, it's on me, OK?
1:02:12
You're $10 Happy Meal because you're a child bitch.
1:02:17
I hate this book. So much so, she hated how Corey
1:02:20
loved her for the character she wrote in the debut novel, but
1:02:24
she was OK with Jeremy falling in love with her for the
1:02:27
character in the debut novel. But then she was.
1:02:29
Also falling in love with Jeremy for being in the members of your
1:02:33
script. All falling in love with the
1:02:36
fake versions of themselves written by other people.
1:02:39
But that's. She's like, Verity is a psycho,
1:02:42
while she's also doing psychotic shit.
1:02:44
But Verity is the worst one, so I'm better.
1:02:47
At least she's smart. This is like the Pygmy Olympics.
1:02:51
Honestly, I don't even know who won.
1:02:54
They all kind of tied at this point.
1:02:56
OK, so. Look.
1:02:58
You know what? You know what?
1:03:00
You know what? The nicest thing I can say about
1:03:02
this book is that she kept it to a respectable word.
1:03:06
Count. I know it dragged.
1:03:08
Me, But I had an audio. Book.
1:03:09
So I fucking had it on double. Speed.
1:03:12
And it wasn't that long. So if I'm going to be completely
1:03:15
honest, I skim the shit out of this.
1:03:18
There's some, yeah pages I glanced and I was like.
1:03:20
Nah, and just. Yeah, nothing's happening.
1:03:24
Honestly. So fucking boring.
1:03:25
The 1st 100 pages are the worst. If I went and bought like a
1:03:29
hardcover book and spent like $20 on it, I wouldn't be fucking
1:03:32
fare all about it. That's why I don't buy physical
1:03:34
books. I literally.
1:03:35
Can't do it. Because I don't want a physical
1:03:38
thing taking up room of something I hate.
1:03:40
Yeah, yeah. And for this, I think I got this
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on Audible for $5 on discount, so it was worth it.
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What should we rate this out of? Washed.
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Chickens. Some vomit chickens or Ariana
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Grande, yeah. How many?
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Yes. Out of five.
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How many love and cares? Yeah, How many love and cares
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from me? A 0I honestly fucking hated it.
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I didn't. Even do a zero on Goodreads.
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Did you know that Ferrell Goodreads?
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Ferrell Ferrell Ferrell. Number one, like one star is.
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I didn't like it. It's not even a star.
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Worthy book. I'm sure people loved it.
1:04:26
Good for you. One, I'm not a fan of Colleen
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Hooper books. I never enjoy them.
1:04:31
They're not fun. Also, it's fucking trash.
1:04:34
I think the problem with Coho is she's so misogynistic.
1:04:39
It hurts. She's so misogynistic.
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But also she writes at like a 10 year old level.
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And I'm not saying I read quality.
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Books. But there was no.
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Fun time. I gave it to ya out of five.
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Because. On Goodreads, that means it was
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OK. The reason why I thought it was
1:05:00
OK is because it was trying to be a thriller.
1:05:04
Yeah, but it's not a romance. I would give it zero for
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romance. No.
1:05:08
Absolutely. It's not a romance.
1:05:10
Yeah, it's a thriller, not a thriller type for me.
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I just can't do children. I just can't.
1:05:17
Yeah, that was a bit. It was a bit very in your face.
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The only suspense was when Jeremy.
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Walked up behind her about the mechanical.
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Bend you just. The rest was just like how
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honestly, I really just thought all of the characters were
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stupid. Yeah.
1:05:32
I just think there was no point to it.
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No. I like a book where you can
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choose the ending you want though, and that's why it went
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into the two instead of a one, because at least I can pretend
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it's a better plot. But you know what?
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I really would have thought it was better if Jeremy was the
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problem. Yeah.
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But he's too dumb to be the problem.
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But if he was, and he if he took it, that next step, and he was
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the one who wrote the manuscript.
1:05:55
Then I'd be like. Chef's kiss.
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Chef's kiss. Because at the end of the day,
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yeah, it's a psychological thriller.
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But I wasn't. It was predictable.
1:06:03
I wasn't thrilled. I wasn't thrilled.
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No, I wasn't. I wasn't confused.
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No. I knew what was happening.
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I knew she was fine. I knew she murdered her
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children. It's it's fine.
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I didn't even. What was Jeremy even doing with
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his whole life? Nothing.
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He was just being a little bitch at home.
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