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- 0:18Speaker 2: With a thirty fifth pick in the twenty twenty six
- 0:21Speaker 2: NBA Draft, the Denver Nuggets select Trevin Brazil from the
- 0:26Speaker 2: University of Arkansas.
- 0:28Speaker 3: With a forty ninth pick.
- 0:29Speaker 2: In the twenty twenty six NBA Draft, the Denver Nuggets
- 0:32Speaker 2: select Bryce Hopkins from Saint John's University.
- 0:39Speaker 4: Nuggets got themselves two new players last night. ABS got
- 0:42Speaker 4: themselves two new players yesterday in a trade. Welcome to MLK.
- 0:48Speaker 4: No Brett Kaine today he is out. No Mark Moser
- 0:51Speaker 4: today he is out. So we go live to the
- 0:55Speaker 4: Lombardy Compound, high top the Hills of Golden and bring
- 0:59Speaker 4: in Vic Lombardi. Vic, how you doing man?
- 1:01Speaker 3: I always enjoy why they're out, According to you, can
- 1:06Speaker 3: you give us some clarity on why those guys are missing?
- 1:08Speaker 4: Well, Brett is uh, obviously, I mean it's it's I
- 1:12Speaker 4: don't want to make fun of it, but obviously Brett
- 1:15Speaker 4: is finalizing his divorce today. So that's why he is.
- 1:18Speaker 4: And I have no idea what how Mos is doing?
- 1:20Speaker 4: What do you think what do you think Mosr's doing?
- 1:22Speaker 4: Do you think he has to go and talk to
- 1:24Speaker 4: the judge about Is he the guy who has to
- 1:26Speaker 4: give Brett? Like you know, you go in front of
- 1:27Speaker 4: the judge and be like yes, like yeahs Brett the
- 1:30Speaker 4: witness for no is Mos the witness for Brett's to
- 1:33Speaker 4: be like he is the ole guy? He should get
- 1:36Speaker 4: joint custody. You shouldn't take those kids away from him?
- 1:39Speaker 1: Is that?
- 1:39Speaker 3: What is that?
- 1:40Speaker 4: Where Moses is at right now.
- 1:41Speaker 3: Talking to the judge? Say, now, I'm gonna say, MoES
- 1:43Speaker 3: is on an adventure to Mount Killiman Jarrow. He's hiking
- 1:47Speaker 3: kill him and jar.
- 1:48Speaker 4: There's no Can you imagine Mos You're hiking anything?
- 1:51Speaker 3: Can you get?
- 1:52Speaker 4: I mean, how about if you if we stuck Mosure
- 1:54Speaker 4: in the middle of that, if Chataqua up there and Boulder,
- 1:57Speaker 4: do you think he can make a dance?
- 1:59Speaker 3: Cool facts? Maybe that's about it. Three blocks of Colfax?
- 2:03Speaker 4: Is it Colfax like the longest street in America or
- 2:06Speaker 4: something like that?
- 2:07Speaker 3: What is I'm not sure if it's west of the
- 2:09Speaker 3: Mississippi or in America, But you're exactly right. I remember
- 2:12Speaker 3: how being so proud of that as a kid. For
- 2:14Speaker 3: some reason. If you jumped on Colfax and it ends
- 2:18Speaker 3: in my neck of the woods, but you just you
- 2:21Speaker 3: started here and drove east, that sucker just keeps on going. Man, Yeah,
- 2:25Speaker 3: that will go. Yeah, it just returns.
- 2:28Speaker 4: Rolls that Colfax marathon that they run on things, just
- 2:30Speaker 4: like a straight line, just like miles gone.
- 2:33Speaker 3: Before you get going. I do have to report this morning,
- 2:36Speaker 3: I made a horrible mistake. I last night, I spent
- 2:40Speaker 3: the night at my mother's because the siblings were rotating
- 2:44Speaker 3: spending the night with her after my father passed, so
- 2:48Speaker 3: each of us spends the night every other night. And
- 2:50Speaker 3: I rode my my hog down there. Oh no, And
- 2:55Speaker 3: on my way back this morning, you know when you
- 2:57Speaker 3: ride back at five thirty six of them? Do you
- 2:59Speaker 3: know how cold it was this morning? Oh yeah? And
- 3:01Speaker 3: what yeah? Yeah?
- 3:03Speaker 4: Now that ring that rain woke me up last night.
- 3:07Speaker 4: That was how hard it was going. So did you
- 3:08Speaker 4: get soaked?
- 3:09Speaker 3: You get freezing? Right now?
- 3:13Speaker 4: You won't catch a cold, bro Wait, no, that's not
- 3:16Speaker 4: something that happens though, right, That's one of those myths.
- 3:18Speaker 4: Like my mom always you say your hair's wet, you
- 3:21Speaker 4: don't go outside, you're gonna catch a cold.
- 3:23Speaker 3: But that's not I know. But the best rain, My
- 3:25Speaker 3: favorite rain is the rain you get in the middle
- 3:27Speaker 3: of the night like that. I think it's beautiful. I
- 3:29Speaker 3: think when you can hear rain drops while you're sleeping,
- 3:31Speaker 3: that's awesome and we need them badly, So thank you,
- 3:34Speaker 3: Mother Nature. Hopefully everybody's okay, because I heard the storms
- 3:36Speaker 3: were awful.
- 3:37Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, they were coming out hard.
- 3:39Speaker 3: All right. Hey, I was at the Nuggets last night
- 3:41Speaker 3: and got a chance to listen to both Ben Tenzer
- 3:44Speaker 3: and John Wallace. Afterwards, we'll get into what they said.
- 3:47Speaker 3: And I listen the two picks they made, I thought
- 3:50Speaker 3: fit the bill. That's what they're looking for. They're looking
- 3:52Speaker 3: to get more athletic. They're looking for shop blocking. They
- 3:55Speaker 3: got one that Brazil kid man. You know how you
- 3:59Speaker 3: watch the high lights and you see a guy playing,
- 4:02Speaker 3: You're like, I didn't know anything about this kid. All right,
- 4:05Speaker 3: let's let's be honest. There's gonna be a lot of
- 4:07Speaker 3: people that say, oh, yeah, I know. Brandon Evans, who
- 4:10Speaker 3: works at Altitude, is one of our lead sales guys.
- 4:13Speaker 3: He texted me last night and that said this kid's
- 4:16Speaker 3: an athlete, he can play. I knew nothing about him.
- 4:19Speaker 3: I knew about his teammate Acuff, who went in the
- 4:22Speaker 3: first round. Yeah, but I didn't know about this guy.
- 4:24Speaker 3: But watching the highlights, that's exactly what the Nuggets need.
- 4:28Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, forty two inch vertical brother who just yeah,
- 4:33Speaker 4: lanky just runs the rim.
- 4:36Speaker 3: That's just what they need.
- 4:37Speaker 4: Do you well? Once again? So I, once again I
- 4:41Speaker 4: get way too far over my skis cause last night
- 4:44Speaker 4: the Nuggets make two selections in the second round. I
- 4:46Speaker 4: go to YouTube, I start watching those highlights. I'm excited
- 4:48Speaker 4: about both those guys. I don't even know if Hopkins
- 4:50Speaker 4: is going to play, and I don't even know if
- 4:54Speaker 4: the guy they selected from Arkansas was gonna play, but
- 4:57Speaker 4: it is it does bring a little bit of excitement,
- 5:01Speaker 4: Like it does feel like he is Brazil is somebody
- 5:04Speaker 4: who could play that dunker spot right, And if he
- 5:08Speaker 4: connects with Joker, maybe all of a sudden, that raw
- 5:10Speaker 4: athletic talent. Joker's just throwing lob after lob after lob,
- 5:13Speaker 4: and he's just going up there and getting them.
- 5:15Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know if he's gonna play either, but
- 5:16Speaker 3: it gives you options. I remember when they drafted Ron Holmes,
- 5:19Speaker 3: I immediately shut my eyes and said, okay, he'll be
- 5:21Speaker 3: in the rotation. Well he got hurt, he wasn't in
- 5:24Speaker 3: the rotation, and when he came back, he still wasn't
- 5:27Speaker 3: in the rotation. So here's another big. And if you
- 5:30Speaker 3: think about the bigs that they have on the roster
- 5:32Speaker 3: right now, this guy's gonna join the likes of Joker's
- 5:36Speaker 3: not going anywhere. Doron Holmes is a big, Aaron Gordon
- 5:41Speaker 3: is a big. Zeke Nausey is a big. That's a
- 5:45Speaker 3: lot of guys now, yeah, one of those guys. And
- 5:48Speaker 3: I don't know what they do moving forward, but they're
- 5:52Speaker 3: filling in the back end, is what they're doing. And
- 5:55Speaker 3: you can't have enough of these guys on your bench
- 5:58Speaker 3: because you're gonna need him at some point. This guy's
- 6:00Speaker 3: gonna need to play. I'm talking about Brazil. I don't
- 6:03Speaker 3: know much about the Hopkins kid. You know the thing
- 6:05Speaker 3: about college basketball now that I don't understand, And it
- 6:08Speaker 3: still freaks me when you say, oh, the kid from
- 6:11Speaker 3: Arkansas or Hopkins, the kid from Saint John's. Well, Hopkins
- 6:15Speaker 3: with the three different schools, So how do we settle
- 6:18Speaker 3: on Saint John's right, how do we st John's is
- 6:22Speaker 3: the last school? But he transferred three times.
- 6:26Speaker 4: I thought of you last night when I was watching
- 6:29Speaker 4: the second round of the NBA Draft, because I was like, Brother,
- 6:32Speaker 4: I'm glad I'm not Malika, cause every how many picks
- 6:35Speaker 4: did she say?
- 6:36Speaker 3: Now?
- 6:37Speaker 4: I know it says that the Hawks are making this
- 6:39Speaker 4: selection behind me, they says, but it's actually not the Hawks.
- 6:42Speaker 4: It's actually the Memphis Chrizzlies are making that pick. She
- 6:44Speaker 4: did it for. I do believe every second round pick
- 6:47Speaker 4: last night was traded at one time. Every single second
- 6:50Speaker 4: round pick was traded at once, and one of them
- 6:52Speaker 4: vic one pick was traded seven different times to seven
- 6:56Speaker 4: different teams before they made that selection.
- 6:58Speaker 3: Brother, Nine of the last ten picks did not belong
- 7:01Speaker 3: to the teams that were in those selections. That's just
- 7:04Speaker 3: where it is. That's that's what the NBA Draft is.
- 7:06Speaker 3: The Nuggets for those of you wondering what is the plan?
- 7:09Speaker 3: And yesterday's show we talked about what is the plan.
- 7:12Speaker 3: I was completely I don't know the word disillusioned. I
- 7:15Speaker 3: had no idea what they were doing and what the
- 7:18Speaker 3: plan was. I got a little more after talking to
- 7:21Speaker 3: Tenser and John Wallace and a few people last night.
- 7:25Speaker 3: It's pretty obvious. Now they let me put it to
- 7:29Speaker 3: you this way. Let me ask you this, Burdo and
- 7:32Speaker 3: everybody listening. A year ago in the off season, what
- 7:37Speaker 3: did we think about the work of Ben Tenzer and
- 7:39Speaker 3: John Walla?
- 7:40Speaker 4: Loved it, celebrated it, celebrate because I didn't think they
- 7:43Speaker 4: were gonna be able to get underneath that apron and
- 7:46Speaker 4: open up the options that they currently have. Yeah, I loved.
- 7:49Speaker 4: I was celebrating everything. I was happy about Jonas and
- 7:52Speaker 4: Tim Hardaway and all the moves that they were making.
- 7:55Speaker 3: And now, my god, we nearly throw a We nearly
- 7:57Speaker 3: threw a parade about what they did over the course
- 8:00Speaker 3: of two months, and starting now, this next month is
- 8:03Speaker 3: going to be critical for the Nuggets.
- 8:05Speaker 4: Do you think do you think, like I still believe
- 8:08Speaker 4: that this is the deepest team Last year's is the
- 8:10Speaker 4: deepest team the Jokers ever had around them. Do you
- 8:12Speaker 4: believe that to be the case?
- 8:14Speaker 3: Well, last year's team, on paper, that roster, on paper
- 8:17Speaker 3: was a championship contender, no doubt about it. And that's
- 8:20Speaker 3: where the unrest came because they didn't get it done.
- 8:23Speaker 3: So so I'll tell you the reason I bring that up.
- 8:26Speaker 3: Tenser and Wallace, I thought a year ago looked like
- 8:30Speaker 3: they were geniuses. They didn't get dumber. Okay, they didn't
- 8:36Speaker 3: get dumber. The roster was built to win. They didn't
- 8:40Speaker 3: win for whatever circumstances you want to bring up on
- 8:43Speaker 3: this show. If you want to blame injuries, if you
- 8:46Speaker 3: want to blame toughness, if you want to blame length,
- 8:49Speaker 3: if you want, you can blame a lot of things.
- 8:52Speaker 3: But the roster that was constructed in the offseason last year,
- 8:57Speaker 3: we all assumed, and we all agreed that was a
- 9:01Speaker 3: damn good roster. All right, Fine, those same two guys
- 9:05Speaker 3: are back at it again, and the plan this year
- 9:09Speaker 3: they're stuck. The reason they're stuck is they don't have
- 9:12Speaker 3: the assets to move around. So what was this year's
- 9:15Speaker 3: draft about gaining a couple more of those assets, which
- 9:19Speaker 3: is why they moved out of the first round into
- 9:22Speaker 3: the second. Pick up a couple second round picks. Have
- 9:26Speaker 3: those in your back pocket because when trade deadline approaches,
- 9:31Speaker 3: you know next year, having a couple second round picks
- 9:34Speaker 3: is going to come in handy. If you want somebody
- 9:37Speaker 3: desperately who can help you with the deadline, they didn't
- 9:39Speaker 3: have those picks. They were berefed of picks. They were
- 9:44Speaker 3: gone through no fault of their own. It's just the
- 9:47Speaker 3: way things happened. So that's what the goal was last night.
- 9:51Speaker 3: I do know that they had their eyes set on
- 9:54Speaker 3: perhaps a point guard in the first round, and once
- 9:56Speaker 3: that guy was off the board, plan B. It was
- 9:59Speaker 3: exact exactly what they went through. Plan B was to
- 10:01Speaker 3: move into the second round. And here we are.
- 10:04Speaker 4: Do you think because there were there were rumors Yahoo
- 10:07Speaker 4: Sports is reporting that the Nuggets were trying to trade
- 10:12Speaker 4: Cam Johnson and the number twenty six pick to move
- 10:14Speaker 4: up in the first round. Sure, and that nobody would
- 10:17Speaker 4: would bite on that deal. So I mean, how far
- 10:20Speaker 4: would do you think that the Nuggets would have moved?
- 10:22Speaker 4: I mean, we talked going from twenty six to sixteen?
- 10:26Speaker 4: Are we talking ten spots?
- 10:27Speaker 3: Like question? I don't know. Take a look at the
- 10:29Speaker 3: list of guards that were taking. Okay, yeah, let me,
- 10:31Speaker 3: I got it right here on the guard and and
- 10:34Speaker 3: a lot of moving parts are here. Maybe the Stirts kid,
- 10:36Speaker 3: where was he taken?
- 10:37Speaker 4: He was taking sixteen, so that that would be ten spots.
- 10:40Speaker 4: You move up ten spots and you could have got him, yes,
- 10:42Speaker 4: maybe him and people and he went to Memphis and
- 10:46Speaker 4: people love what Memphis did that mostly because they got Cam,
- 10:49Speaker 4: but then they also got your boy from Iowa, the
- 10:51Speaker 4: guard from Iowa.
- 10:52Speaker 3: So I can make a case for le Baron Phylon,
- 10:55Speaker 3: who went a couple spots before the Nuggets.
- 10:57Speaker 4: That's a good one because I think you could have
- 10:59Speaker 4: moved up to that's only that's only what forespot. You
- 11:02Speaker 4: only had to move up forcepots.
- 11:03Speaker 3: To get him. Okay, So that didn't work for whatever reason.
- 11:08Speaker 3: And that's the thing we all talk in our business.
- 11:10Speaker 3: It's all talk, right, just trade this guy or trade
- 11:13Speaker 3: that guy?
- 11:14Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, ye crazy. They're always like I said
- 11:17Speaker 4: that yesterday. They're always like, just trade Al Harrington for
- 11:19Speaker 4: Kobe Bryant. I understand what the problem is here. You're like,
- 11:21Speaker 4: you're delusional, that's that's not.
- 11:24Speaker 3: The problem is. You have to have a partner that
- 11:27Speaker 3: is willing to work with you. So you just who
- 11:29Speaker 3: reported that they were trying to trade Cam and the pick? Yeah? Sports, Okay,
- 11:33Speaker 3: so every team in the NBA knows what the Nuggets
- 11:38Speaker 3: intent is. You'd be dumb not to right. They know,
- 11:42Speaker 3: and they still have to clear some cap space to
- 11:44Speaker 3: sign Peyton Watson. By the way, good news for the
- 11:46Speaker 3: Peyton Watson fans. Last night they came out and said it.
- 11:49Speaker 3: They intend on keeping Peyton Watson around a long time.
- 11:52Speaker 3: That's the intent. Now whether they can get it done
- 11:54Speaker 3: remains to be seen, but that's the intent to do that.
- 11:59Speaker 3: They've got to move salary, yeah, because he can't they
- 12:03Speaker 3: I got to move salary. They still haven't moved that salary. Big.
- 12:06Speaker 4: I'll let me tell you something. I was so pissed
- 12:08Speaker 4: off at Bobby Mark's last night on draft coverage because
- 12:11Speaker 4: he kept saying he kept saying it, He kept telling
- 12:13Speaker 4: teams to put together an offer for Peyton Watson. I'm like,
- 12:16Speaker 4: shut up, Bobby, what are you doing? Matter of fact,
- 12:18Speaker 4: he was like he was like begging the La Clippers
- 12:22Speaker 4: to get rid of Quiet and give Peyton an offer.
- 12:25Speaker 4: And I'm like, like, Bobby, shut your mouth. Man, shure
- 12:29Speaker 4: j is there? Well, I think a lot of people are.
- 12:32Speaker 4: But let me ask you, because there has been some
- 12:35Speaker 4: Nugget fans that are scared that the Nuggets are gonna
- 12:38Speaker 4: get Peyton thirty million dollars a year, find a way
- 12:40Speaker 4: to give him thirty twenty five a year, something like that.
- 12:43Speaker 4: But he might have a a Christian Brown season where
- 12:46Speaker 4: Christian signs the big deal and then has an off year.
- 12:49Speaker 4: Peyton signs a big deal and has an off year.
- 12:51Speaker 4: And if Peyton does that as a big piece of
- 12:54Speaker 4: this team next year, then then you're not gonna make
- 12:57Speaker 4: the the West Finals again. So I mean, what do
- 13:00Speaker 4: you think, I mean, do you think Peyton Watson has
- 13:04Speaker 4: where's his ceiling at fort Well?
- 13:06Speaker 3: I'll tell it to you this way. And I told
- 13:08Speaker 3: the boys this week, Peyton Watson is twenty three years old.
- 13:11Speaker 3: You know that he's younger than the two guys they picked.
- 13:14Speaker 4: I mean, I know Brazil was five years at Arkansas, right,
- 13:17Speaker 4: So he's twenty three, right. That's crazy, man. Peyton's been
- 13:21Speaker 4: in the league three four years, three years, four.
- 13:24Speaker 3: Years, twenty three years old. If I gave you Peyton
- 13:26Speaker 3: Watson and this year's draft, and I said, go ahead
- 13:29Speaker 3: and draft a top five pick.
- 13:31Speaker 4: He probably ooh, he'd be five, right, he'd be five,
- 13:34Speaker 4: top five pick.
- 13:35Speaker 3: I don't know where he'd go down. I mean, that's
- 13:37Speaker 3: not to me to assess. But I'm just telling you
- 13:40Speaker 3: I'm looking at the talent in the top five and
- 13:43Speaker 3: the talent that he showed you on tape already. See
- 13:46Speaker 3: the difference between Peyton and the guys that were picked
- 13:48Speaker 3: is he's already proven he could play at a high
- 13:50Speaker 3: level in the NBA. He's already proven he could put
- 13:52Speaker 3: up thirty plus, he's already proven he can do things defensively.
- 13:56Speaker 3: So you don't I'm with you on that man. Peyton
- 14:00Speaker 3: Watson is something they want to They're gonna do whatever
- 14:03Speaker 3: they can to keep him around. But who goes right?
- 14:07Speaker 3: And how did they go right? Now? They have a
- 14:10Speaker 3: bunch of six ten dudes and one of them may
- 14:14Speaker 3: not stick around. How do you get rid of them?
- 14:16Speaker 3: That's where those second round picks come in. That's why
- 14:19Speaker 3: they had to do what they did. If you can't
- 14:21Speaker 3: move a player because another team doesn't want that player,
- 14:25Speaker 3: you have to juice it up by giving them something,
- 14:27Speaker 3: And that something is going to be those second round
- 14:29Speaker 3: picks they have in their back pocket are the same
- 14:32Speaker 3: second round picks that To be honest, they were reckless
- 14:36Speaker 3: with second round picks here going up to this draft,
- 14:39Speaker 3: giving them away.
- 14:41Speaker 4: Well, I said this yesterday, I'm not sure I after
- 14:45Speaker 4: watching the NBA my entire life I'm not sure at
- 14:49Speaker 4: this point I know the value of picks anymore.
- 14:54Speaker 3: I don't like, I have no idea. It's like water.
- 14:57Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, what is going on with all these
- 15:00Speaker 4: because if the Nuggets do this deal, if the Nuggets
- 15:03Speaker 4: have to send money out to sign Peyton, what like?
- 15:08Speaker 4: So is Jonas gone? Is that ten million dollars.
- 15:11Speaker 3: For yoa assumption? I think the assumption. And you know, again,
- 15:14Speaker 3: those a gentlemen were asked about Yonas valentunas they were
- 15:17Speaker 3: asked about Jalen Pickett. They're asked about a bunch of
- 15:19Speaker 3: bunch of players last night and really didn't offer much
- 15:22Speaker 3: back because they can't talk about it and they don't
- 15:25Speaker 3: want to show their hand. But I think the reports
- 15:27Speaker 3: are out of Yona's valence Seness being offered a spot
- 15:33Speaker 3: in Europe. I don't know if the Nuggets are looking
- 15:37Speaker 3: to trade Jonas's contract and if that'll help free up
- 15:40Speaker 3: some money. But to get Peyton Watson under contract, it's
- 15:43Speaker 3: got to be a big ticket. It's got to be.
- 15:46Speaker 3: It's gotta be a Cam Johnson deal.
- 15:47Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it might be.
- 15:49Speaker 3: I'm trading Zeke if you if you sent Zeke in
- 15:53Speaker 3: Yonas valences. Let's say those two contracts that may not
- 15:57Speaker 3: be enough.
- 15:58Speaker 4: Yeah, that's been million, I think almost twillion something like.
- 16:01Speaker 3: That may not be enough. Just sign Peyton Watson.
- 16:03Speaker 4: So yeah, and if you send Cam, that's twenty three
- 16:06Speaker 4: million that you can say, So Cam and Cam and
- 16:10Speaker 4: Jonas is thirty three million combined. But once again, are
- 16:14Speaker 4: you moving off if you get rid of Cam, it's
- 16:19Speaker 4: just you're chaining you. You're sending Cam out and putting
- 16:22Speaker 4: Peyton right into that startup right right there.
- 16:24Speaker 3: Starter.
- 16:24Speaker 4: So that's what So it goes Jamal Christian, Yeah, uh,
- 16:28Speaker 4: Peyton area.
- 16:29Speaker 3: Running those guys except Peyton. Peyton Watson is getting a
- 16:32Speaker 3: lot more minutes and he's not coming off the bench,
- 16:34Speaker 3: which is gonna put some pressure on the bench rotation.
- 16:37Speaker 3: Who's your bench now? Yeah?
- 16:38Speaker 4: Right, because I mean is Bruce going to be back?
- 16:40Speaker 4: As Tim gonna be back?
- 16:41Speaker 3: It's a lot of questions an get time. That's why Burdo,
- 16:45Speaker 3: for those listening the draft for the Denver Nuggets this
- 16:49Speaker 3: year was a secondary offseason practice. Their work is going
- 16:53Speaker 3: to be done here in the next two weeks.
- 16:55Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah here in the
- 16:57Speaker 4: next weeks. Yeah, sometime early in July. We're gonna know
- 17:00Speaker 4: what we need to know. We're gonna find out that stuff.
- 17:02Speaker 4: So either way, all right, let's take another quick time out.
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- 17:39Speaker 4: White sox. You know what's crazy. Here's here's here's how big.
- 17:44Speaker 4: Notre Dame is. Like one of the first things I
- 17:48Speaker 4: heard when when Popo Leo was announced as the first
- 17:51Speaker 4: American pope, Like people started taking shots at Notre Dame.
- 17:53Speaker 4: Vic you're Alma Mater, man, People just love to take
- 17:56Speaker 4: shots of Notre Dame. They were like, see sucker, First
- 17:59Speaker 4: American pope didn't even go to Notre Dame. Man, Yeah,
- 18:02Speaker 4: the Nova guy, what's going on here?
- 18:03Speaker 3: I'm used to it. It's okay and what Yeah?
- 18:05Speaker 4: Yeah, you've been dealing with your whole life. People coming
- 18:08Speaker 4: for the Irish, coming for Notre Dame.
- 18:10Speaker 3: Were you all right? Vic?
- 18:13Speaker 4: The Nuggets made a move. Oh you know what, We're
- 18:16Speaker 4: gonna get to the Avs because the Avs made a
- 18:18Speaker 4: trade yesterday and they sent out Jack Drey. But I
- 18:21Speaker 4: do want to ask you about three NBA quick topics
- 18:23Speaker 4: before we head on over it.
- 18:25Speaker 3: That's one.
- 18:27Speaker 4: The Boston Celtics are still trying to chase trade Jalen Brown.
- 18:31Speaker 3: They made that clear.
- 18:32Speaker 4: The Hornets are now trying to trade LaMelo Ball. Did
- 18:35Speaker 4: that come from? I don't know. I don't know, man,
- 18:38Speaker 4: And I don't even like, once again, I don't know,
- 18:39Speaker 4: Like what's LaMelo ball worth? What would you give up
- 18:41Speaker 4: for LaMelo Ball? Like he is a good player, But
- 18:43Speaker 4: I like, are you setting out to first for eight?
- 18:48Speaker 3: That one confuses me. Man. The Hornets had a renaissance
- 18:51Speaker 3: last year. They were fun to watch. That team was
- 18:54Speaker 3: really fun. That team came into Denver and I watched
- 18:56Speaker 3: them play the Nuggets and run the Nuggets off the court. Yeah,
- 18:59Speaker 3: later in the season, and I said, that team's gonna
- 19:01Speaker 3: be good. They're gonna be really good. I that one
- 19:04Speaker 3: confuses me. Not sure why you're messing with that the roster.
- 19:07Speaker 4: I think maybe they think it's Lamello's that because they
- 19:11Speaker 4: got the rookie that that great con Ca Nipple, the
- 19:15Speaker 4: guy who was just raining threes all season long, and
- 19:18Speaker 4: min almost was as good as Cooper Flag could have
- 19:21Speaker 4: won the h Brandon Miller, Miiles Bridges. You're right, that's
- 19:23Speaker 4: a good team.
- 19:24Speaker 3: I just don't know.
- 19:24Speaker 4: Yeah there, but once again, I have no idea what
- 19:28Speaker 4: the value of a LaMelo ball is.
- 19:30Speaker 3: And he has three years left on his deal.
- 19:32Speaker 4: It's not well oh sorry, sorry, sorry sorry, vic or
- 19:36Speaker 4: that we we got LaMelo just got traded. Oh no,
- 19:39Speaker 4: he got traded to the Timberwolves. Oh my gosh, holds
- 19:42Speaker 4: red hold on, hold on, now, I gotta figure hold on,
- 19:44Speaker 4: let me see what shamp hold on? Hold on, what
- 19:49Speaker 4: is happening here? Why?
- 19:51Speaker 3: Why are the the Timberwolves getting rid of all their
- 19:54Speaker 3: their size? They got rid of Julius Randall and now
- 19:57Speaker 3: nos Red.
- 19:58Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, Okay, oh okay, Vick, listen to this.
- 20:01Speaker 3: Listen to this.
- 20:02Speaker 4: So the Hornets are trading LaMelo Ball and Josh Green
- 20:05Speaker 4: to the Minnesota Temples. Four nas reed a twenty thirty
- 20:11Speaker 4: three unprotected first round pick, three first round pick swaps,
- 20:16Speaker 4: and three second round picks all for LaMelo Ball. Oh
- 20:22Speaker 4: Tim Conley? All right, Vick, you tell me what that
- 20:25Speaker 4: was all about.
- 20:26Speaker 3: I I and I'm not trying to say this just
- 20:28Speaker 3: because Minnesota beat the Nuggets? What are you doing?
- 20:35Speaker 1: What do you do?
- 20:35Speaker 3: I mean, that makes no sense to me. They got
- 20:40Speaker 3: no sense to me, because Minnesota they.
- 20:42Speaker 4: Just signed Ao, right, I mean they just re upped Ao.
- 20:45Speaker 3: Soon move.
- 20:46Speaker 4: You have a bunch of guards, Yes, that's like you
- 20:48Speaker 4: gotta watch your guards.
- 20:49Speaker 3: You got Lamello, you got Dante DiVincenzo, you still got Conley.
- 20:53Speaker 4: They drafted a guard down a duke, they drafted a guard. Yeah,
- 20:57Speaker 4: they got Terrence.
- 20:57Speaker 3: Shit.
- 20:57Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right. You got a bunch of guards. And
- 21:00Speaker 4: then you gotta go Beart who can't shoot? You got
- 21:03Speaker 4: rid of a a great power forward to add you
- 21:07Speaker 4: already have.
- 21:09Speaker 3: This is weird?
- 21:10Speaker 4: Are you doing yeah, what do you think Conley's thinking here?
- 21:12Speaker 4: What do you think he's thinking? You know, if something
- 21:14Speaker 4: else they're doing.
- 21:15Speaker 3: I shook my head when they brought in Rudy Gobert
- 21:20Speaker 3: and gave up all that stuff. Obviously it worked for
- 21:23Speaker 3: him though, because they've beaten the Nuggets several times since then.
- 21:26Speaker 3: It worked. So maybe they just know a lot more
- 21:29Speaker 3: than we do on what's next. But that is a
- 21:32Speaker 3: lot to give up for LaMelo ball number one. It's
- 21:35Speaker 3: a lot to give up number two. Nas Reed. Yeah, yeah,
- 21:40Speaker 3: you nos. Reed's been nothing but glorious for them.
- 21:44Speaker 4: You only have now They only have Rudy Gobert and
- 21:46Speaker 4: Slow Mo. That's it, man, that's their bigs. That's it,
- 21:50Speaker 4: And Kylie Anderson and Rudy Gobert, that's it.
- 21:53Speaker 3: I'm freaking out over that.
- 21:54Speaker 4: Par They've loaded with guards though, But they have to.
- 21:57Speaker 4: They're gonna send somebody else out right, They got to.
- 21:59Speaker 3: They gotta get a bit big somewhere in there. They
- 22:01Speaker 3: gotta go get a big I mean, I forgot they
- 22:02Speaker 3: still got bones too, They got bones, right, they this
- 22:06Speaker 3: is wild brother Wild.
- 22:08Speaker 4: So they gave up. So what if Josh Green doesn't
- 22:11Speaker 4: really matter? But LaMelo Ball and Josh Green to the
- 22:14Speaker 4: Minnesota Timberlves for nas Reed, a unprotected first rounder, three
- 22:19Speaker 4: first round pick swaps in twenty twenty eight, twenty twenty nine,
- 22:23Speaker 4: and twenty thirty, and three second round picks. That is
- 22:26Speaker 4: a monster haul for LaMelo Okay, yes, does Anthony Edwards
- 22:29Speaker 4: and Lambello Ball make? Is that? What kind of backcourt
- 22:32Speaker 4: is that?
- 22:32Speaker 3: I don't know, But if you're a Nuggets fan, this
- 22:34Speaker 3: is a win. This is a win for the never
- 22:36Speaker 3: Nuggets because in my opinion, Minnesota got worse. They got worse,
- 22:41Speaker 3: and I know they still have money to work with.
- 22:42Speaker 3: Minnesota has a lot of money to work with after
- 22:44Speaker 3: unloading the Randall contract. Yeah, so they still have money.
- 22:48Speaker 3: They can go sign some bigs. But currently I thought
- 22:52Speaker 3: that nas Reed was simply going to move into the
- 22:54Speaker 3: stardan lineup. That's what I thought. He was gonna be
- 22:57Speaker 3: a starting lineup guy. Yes, So this is crazy to
- 23:00Speaker 3: me that that they're rebooting that entire team. And I
- 23:03Speaker 3: think there are a bunch of Nuggets fans that are
- 23:05Speaker 3: hoping that the Nuggets reboot a little bit right rebooting
- 23:08Speaker 3: of their own. Minnesota looked at their roster in the
- 23:11Speaker 3: offseason and said this ain't good enough. They're redoing it all.
- 23:15Speaker 3: This is Crezy doing the whole damn thing. This is crazy.
- 23:18Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean yeah, Conley's taken a flamethrower to
- 23:21Speaker 4: that team right now.
- 23:22Speaker 3: And they lost their chief assistant coach, Mikenori, who's now
- 23:25Speaker 3: the head coach at Portland. So some major changes for
- 23:28Speaker 3: the Minnesota Timberwolves. But you know what, listen, Tim Connelly's
- 23:34Speaker 3: always been hey, man, if you're not winning this the
- 23:37Speaker 3: NBA championship, what are you doing. We're gonna shoot for
- 23:39Speaker 3: the NBA title. We tried. We got as far as
- 23:41Speaker 3: the Western Conference Finals two years in a row. This
- 23:44Speaker 3: year we took a step back. So let's cut it up,
- 23:47Speaker 3: cut it right open, start again.
- 23:49Speaker 4: That is I mean, well, you tell me, Isoul, would
- 23:54Speaker 4: you suggest the Nuggets make take a swing like not
- 23:56Speaker 4: this trade because you're right, this trade is crazy, but
- 23:59Speaker 4: something like that. So LaMelo has now been traded. Jalen
- 24:02Speaker 4: is still out there. You mentioned Mike andre jb. Bickerstaff,
- 24:05Speaker 4: the head of the NBA's Coaching Association, came out and
- 24:07Speaker 4: just hammered that entire contract about it. But I guess
- 24:11Speaker 4: there was more things in Micah's contract. Than I realized
- 24:15Speaker 4: that some of his money's based on how well the
- 24:18Speaker 4: Blazers do next season, So he gets more money if
- 24:20Speaker 4: they win more and less money if they lose or something.
- 24:23Speaker 4: But I mean, everybody likes Mike and Nory. Why did
- 24:28Speaker 4: he have to take this job to prove that he
- 24:30Speaker 4: can be a head coach.
- 24:31Speaker 3: In the league. Maybe he's that confident in himself and
- 24:33Speaker 3: he sees that Portland roster and says, I can win
- 24:36Speaker 3: with these guys. He saw that Portland roster up close
- 24:38Speaker 3: a few times in the division. So that's a pretty
- 24:41Speaker 3: talented team, A young team that's got some things. I
- 24:45Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, more stuff's gonna break here. This
- 24:50Speaker 3: is again the draft has been pretty boring. Yeah, there
- 24:54Speaker 3: was only one deal last night, Isaiah Stewart traded from Detroit.
- 24:59Speaker 3: But I think the next nine days, with free agency
- 25:01Speaker 3: next week, this is where the Nuggets gonna make some changes.
- 25:06Speaker 3: And I'm curious who else on that Minnesota roster is
- 25:10Speaker 3: ripe for the taking, because it looks to me like
- 25:12Speaker 3: they are redoing it. They are gonna redo the entire roster. Yeah,
- 25:16Speaker 3: there were some bigs so they zick Nausey's a big
- 25:22Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I see, I see what you're thinking.
- 25:24Speaker 4: I see what you're thinking. Do you think Conley would
- 25:26Speaker 4: do a deal with the Nuggets?
- 25:27Speaker 3: If? Like, why not? Chris McFarlane's doing deals with Joe
- 25:31Speaker 3: Seki constantly.
- 25:33Speaker 4: They talk all the time, it sounds like, and it
- 25:35Speaker 4: seems to be working out for both teams. So yeah,
- 25:37Speaker 4: I mean, boy, I would have loved to get nas Man.
- 25:40Speaker 4: The Nuggets didn't have like a lamello to give up.
- 25:42Speaker 3: NOAs if I looked at that Minnesota roster and obviously
- 25:47Speaker 3: envy because they beat you, right. Yeah, the one player
- 25:51Speaker 3: that I thought was consistently really good and for the
- 25:54Speaker 3: last three years, nas Reid has been. He's that guy
- 25:57Speaker 3: that Nuggets didn't have. He didn't have that. He was
- 25:59Speaker 3: a big off the bench. You contributed right away. He's
- 26:02Speaker 3: a former sixth Man of the Year winnering sixth Man
- 26:06Speaker 3: of the Year.
- 26:07Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's young, still so still young.
- 26:10Speaker 3: I need somebody to explain to me why Carolina, Oh,
- 26:16Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Charlotte, A lot of activity in that Carolina area.
- 26:20Speaker 3: Why is Charlotte trading LaMelo ball? To begin with? Why
- 26:24Speaker 3: did that need to happen? Yeah? That team was on
- 26:26Speaker 3: a resurgence, and then if you trade him, why is
- 26:30Speaker 3: Minnesota taking on? Now think about the two personalities they
- 26:34Speaker 3: have in their back court.
- 26:36Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right. I hadn't thought about it. That's going
- 26:38Speaker 4: to be Crapy court is drunk. That back court is drunk.
- 26:41Speaker 3: That court is going to be insanity.
- 26:43Speaker 4: You know how much Anthony Edwards likes to talk. You
- 26:45Speaker 4: know how much Lamela likes to talk. I mean, LaMelo
- 26:48Speaker 4: got into it with they were in the playoffs this year,
- 26:50Speaker 4: and he got into it with somebody, right, I mean, yeah,
- 26:53Speaker 4: you're right. That's that's a crazy backcourt in Minnesota. Now,
- 26:56Speaker 4: stupid that court.
- 26:58Speaker 3: Here's what Minnesota has on their team. You've got ioed
- 27:01Speaker 3: assumed who you just resigned to, A big number guard,
- 27:04Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards, guard LaMelo Ball, guard Dante DiVincenzo, who's out
- 27:11Speaker 3: with the he's out another year guard. What are you
- 27:16Speaker 3: doing now?
- 27:18Speaker 4: You give up You have more guards than you know
- 27:20Speaker 4: what to do with, and so in the trade you
- 27:23Speaker 4: give up a power forward. None of that and one
- 27:26Speaker 4: of I mean yeah, not only that, Nas is a
- 27:28Speaker 4: playoff performer. Man, I'd love to have nas read on
- 27:30Speaker 4: my team in the playoffs.
- 27:32Speaker 3: That.
- 27:32Speaker 4: Yeah, that is crazy. Now you got Rudy Gobert and
- 27:35Speaker 4: Kyle Anderson is your front No, no, no, no, joker's
- 27:39Speaker 4: gonna tear that front court down.
- 27:42Speaker 2: Uh.
- 27:43Speaker 3: Somebody says here on the text line, that's not a
- 27:44Speaker 3: lot to give up for LaMelo. It's essentially just LaMelo
- 27:48Speaker 3: for a first round in nas Red. Listen. I love
- 27:52Speaker 3: LaMelo's game. I just think the LaMelo next to Anthony Edwards,
- 27:57Speaker 3: it's almost excess that position. I mean, he needs to create.
- 28:03Speaker 3: He's an artist. LaMelo is like an artist who needs
- 28:05Speaker 3: room to create. You give the ball to Anthony Edwards,
- 28:09Speaker 3: how much creativity will you really have?
- 28:11Speaker 4: You're right, is Anthony?
- 28:13Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 28:14Speaker 4: Is Anthony gonna let LaMelo run the offense?
- 28:17Speaker 3: Or they you know what I mean?
- 28:18Speaker 4: Are they gonna let LaMelo be the primary ballhander or
- 28:21Speaker 4: or his aunt gonna be like no, no, no, no,
- 28:24Speaker 4: you give me the ball? Like I thought they they
- 28:27Speaker 4: signed aoh, I thought they were gonna start Ao, you
- 28:29Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like I thought that was gonna
- 28:31Speaker 4: be their new guy there in the back cover. No, no, no,
- 28:34Speaker 4: LaMelo ball.
- 28:35Speaker 3: All right.
- 28:35Speaker 4: Well, now now we gotta wait till Jalen gets traded
- 28:38Speaker 4: because that's definitely gonna happen now. But if you're giving up,
- 28:42Speaker 4: if you're giving up what they just gave up for
- 28:44Speaker 4: for LaMelo and whatever, the you still gave up three
- 28:48Speaker 4: second round picks and the first and all the pick
- 28:51Speaker 4: swaps and for for Anthony, I mean, for uh, for LaMelo.
- 28:56Speaker 3: So that's funny. I keep reading these comments from people, well, oh, well,
- 29:01Speaker 3: I wonder who wins that series? Now, well, the series
- 29:03Speaker 3: is over, guys, Minnesota won the series. Is no replay
- 29:06Speaker 3: in that series, it doesn't matter. It's over palace. Yeah,
- 29:10Speaker 3: I mean I understand that. Listen, Minnesota is not as
- 29:14Speaker 3: good today as it was a month ago. But they're
- 29:17Speaker 3: not done, right, that's the thing, right right, they're not done.
- 29:20Speaker 3: They still have a bunch of money to spend.
- 29:22Speaker 4: Yeah, and they and they although their name was in
- 29:25Speaker 4: the LaMelo rumor, their name is also in the Jalen rumors.
- 29:29Speaker 4: Like you don't think they're gonna also get jail? I mean,
- 29:31Speaker 4: now we'll see, nah, but would surprise me. The Timberlves
- 29:37Speaker 4: are just restructuring their entire squad man, that is what. Also,
- 29:41Speaker 4: they have so many I mean, go if you need
- 29:43Speaker 4: a guard called Minnesota, because they got excess. They will
- 29:46Speaker 4: trade you one of those dudes. Man, absolutely insane, although
- 29:51Speaker 4: I like it.
- 29:51Speaker 3: I like it.
- 29:52Speaker 4: Man, dude's doing trades at seven in the morning. He
- 29:55Speaker 4: here on a Thursday. Uh So LaMelo's gone. LaMelo's out
- 30:00Speaker 4: of Charlotte. And you're right, I kind of like Charlon,
- 30:03Speaker 4: didn't they Charlotte got super mega red hot at the
- 30:06Speaker 4: end of the season, right they did. They started cooking
- 30:08Speaker 4: with that lineup.
- 30:09Speaker 3: Yeah, they may again. It was a renaissance season of
- 30:12Speaker 3: sorts for the Hornets, but clearly there's something about LaMelo
- 30:17Speaker 3: that they did not like.
- 30:19Speaker 4: That's interesting.
- 30:20Speaker 3: So his car a lot, I know that much.
- 30:22Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. He's just the worst. He's the worst
- 30:24Speaker 4: driver on the plane. He is just terrible. But okay, well,
- 30:30Speaker 4: I mean the streets of the streets of Minnesota, streets
- 30:33Speaker 4: of Saint Paul are not gonna be safe once LaMelo
- 30:36Speaker 4: gets there. But there you go.
- 30:38Speaker 3: Ah, that's a that's a.
- 30:41Speaker 4: Confusing deal, just a confusing deal. But you're right. There
- 30:44Speaker 4: must be something else to it. There must be this.
- 30:46Speaker 4: They can't be done. They can't be done, you.
- 30:49Speaker 3: Know, thrown into this and this goes back to the
- 30:51Speaker 3: value of second round picks and why the Denver Nuggets
- 30:55Speaker 3: had to replenish the tank in second round picks. Three
- 30:59Speaker 3: second rounders were in deal. The Timberwolves added three second
- 31:03Speaker 3: rounders at the end of this to make this deal happen.
- 31:06Speaker 3: Just now, those aren't just throwing Those are valuable picks now. Yeah,
- 31:10Speaker 3: So that's why the Nuggets had to do what they
- 31:13Speaker 3: do to get second round They had done, they had done.
- 31:16Speaker 3: They were not judicious enough with those second rounders in
- 31:20Speaker 3: the last three years. They just threw them around.
- 31:23Speaker 4: Yeah, Calvin was kind of loosey goosey with those things,
- 31:27Speaker 4: and it is come back to bite you. But you're
- 31:29Speaker 4: right if you can just throw in I mean the
- 31:33Speaker 4: first round pick swaps, I guess or whatever when you're
- 31:36Speaker 4: talking about Charlotte and Minnesota.
- 31:38Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna ask you a question. I have
- 31:40Speaker 3: a question for all basketball fans. I know we're gonna
- 31:42Speaker 3: get into the Avs, but I want you to chew
- 31:44Speaker 3: on this question because in the next hour we'll hit it.
- 31:48Speaker 3: Now that LaMelo ball is joining forces with Anthony Edwards,
- 31:54Speaker 3: which team in the NBA has the best backcourt, the
- 31:57Speaker 3: best duo, the best combo guard backcourt in the NBA.
- 32:00Speaker 3: I think there's another team that I would say is
- 32:03Speaker 3: better than Anthony Edwards and LaMelo Ball. And we'll debate
- 32:06Speaker 3: that coming up in the next hour. Okay, I like it.
- 32:09Speaker 2: I like it.
- 32:10Speaker 4: I'm here for Are you saying, are you gonnay the Nuggets?
- 32:13Speaker 3: Is that the Nungs? No, I'm not gonna say the Nuggets.
- 32:18Speaker 4: Yeah, I got I got one too, I got one.
- 32:20Speaker 4: How about how about we how about we do this.
- 32:22Speaker 4: Let's take a quick time out. When we come back,
- 32:25Speaker 4: we will break down exactly what the Colorado Avalanche did
- 32:29Speaker 4: yesterday when they made a trade, and we got some
- 32:32Speaker 4: some news from around the NFL as well. We'll get
- 32:34Speaker 4: to all that coming up here as we roll on
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- 32:50Speaker 4: to Mosie, Lombardy and kin on this Thursday, June the
- 32:54Speaker 4: twenty something, twenty third, twenty fourth, somewhere in there, twenty
- 32:57Speaker 4: fifth and I'm behind a little bit, okay, So we
- 33:04Speaker 4: just had a big trade in the NBA as a
- 33:07Speaker 4: LaMelo Ball was traded to the Minnesota Timberwolves, and so
- 33:12Speaker 4: we're gonna get more information out of that. Sham's also
- 33:15Speaker 4: reporting VIC that Al Horford, the Ageless Wonder, has declined
- 33:21Speaker 4: his player option and he's gonna sign a two year,
- 33:24Speaker 4: fourteen million dollar deal to stay with Golden State. He
- 33:28Speaker 4: is forty years old. He becomes just the thirteenth player
- 33:30Speaker 4: in NBA history to get to twenty NBA seasons for
- 33:34Speaker 4: the record.
- 33:36Speaker 3: Last summer, when the Nuggets are shopping for a backup big, yeah,
- 33:41Speaker 3: I wanted Al Horford over Jonas.
- 33:43Speaker 4: I mean, I like Alf, like he can still play, right,
- 33:47Speaker 4: I thought he was a.
- 33:47Speaker 3: Better fit here for what they needed. But he obviously
- 33:51Speaker 3: wanted a different role. He want that ten minutes off
- 33:55Speaker 3: the bench roll.
- 33:57Speaker 4: But I mean, would do you think the nug It's
- 34:00Speaker 4: gonna give their back a big more than that next season? Like,
- 34:03Speaker 4: I don't know will they will they allow Joker to
- 34:05Speaker 4: play less.
- 34:06Speaker 3: Minutes next might have to reinvent the way they play. Hey,
- 34:08Speaker 3: I I know the the the Avs have to reinvent
- 34:11Speaker 3: some stuff because this was the deepest team up the middle,
- 34:14Speaker 3: and Moser always talks about that man, there's no team
- 34:16Speaker 3: that's up the middle deep. Well, they took their fourth
- 34:19Speaker 3: line center and just traded them to the Nashville Avalanche.
- 34:22Speaker 3: Is that we're gonna call Nashville now? Man?
- 34:25Speaker 4: I asked that just a little while ago, Like how
- 34:27Speaker 4: often do you think Chris McFarlane and Joe Sacke have talked?
- 34:32Speaker 3: What else you got?
- 34:34Speaker 4: So?
- 34:34Speaker 3: Uh?
- 34:35Speaker 4: Like Jack Drury is a really is Everybody likes him.
- 34:38Speaker 4: He's a really good teammate, and he's a really good center.
- 34:40Speaker 4: But the the Avs depth is so good that their
- 34:46Speaker 4: fourth line center can play third or second line center
- 34:49Speaker 4: for another team. Like he's gonna be Nashville's third or
- 34:51Speaker 4: second line center and Nashville is gonna pay him like
- 34:54Speaker 4: a second or third line center and the Avs could
- 34:57Speaker 4: so So here's so let me ask you this, vig.
- 35:00Speaker 4: So they make a deal, They send out Jack Drury,
- 35:03Speaker 4: they get back two young, twenty three year old players,
- 35:07Speaker 4: former first round draft picks In Freskov and Zachary Lavou
- 35:13Speaker 4: Lavu LaRue, excuse me, Zachary LaRue. Now, Shretzkov is a center.
- 35:18Speaker 4: Can't play fourth line center for the Avs or or
- 35:21Speaker 4: or play down in the A. Now Laruvic LaRue. LaRue
- 35:27Speaker 4: is a nasty dude. He and I mean that in
- 35:30Speaker 4: the best possible way. He is a nasty, mean guy,
- 35:36Speaker 4: good who has a serious edge to him. Like I'm
- 35:39Speaker 4: not just talking about like a guy who'll beat you.
- 35:42Speaker 4: I'm talking about a guy who will get suspended because
- 35:45Speaker 4: he's got that kind of edge to him, you know
- 35:47Speaker 4: what I mean. So yeah, like I mean, is that
- 35:49Speaker 4: what you're looking for? If is that you're looking for,
- 35:51Speaker 4: This is the kind of guy that every other team
- 35:53Speaker 4: in the league hates and your family loves.
- 35:56Speaker 3: That's the kind of player I love in sport. Yeah,
- 36:00Speaker 3: my favorite kind of player, I guess.
- 36:01Speaker 4: So Schwetzkov has a really high ceiling. He could be,
- 36:04Speaker 4: he could be somebody, he could turn into somebody.
- 36:06Speaker 3: I love it.
- 36:07Speaker 4: And LaRue has a really high ceiling too. But also
- 36:09Speaker 4: he's just nasty.
- 36:10Speaker 3: He's just mean man. Well, I mean mean nasty whatever
- 36:13Speaker 3: it takes to win. I mean, I love that attitude.
- 36:16Speaker 3: I think every player should have a player like that.
- 36:18Speaker 3: Every team, I'm sorry, should have a player like that
- 36:20Speaker 3: in any sport.
- 36:22Speaker 4: So honestly, so, yeah, the ABS got got a little
- 36:24Speaker 4: bit younger, they got a little bit cheaper, and I
- 36:27Speaker 4: bet you, I'm sure they still have moves to make.
- 36:31Speaker 3: You know what, they have seven million to work with
- 36:34Speaker 3: before the deal. They clearly they have things in mind.
- 36:38Speaker 3: They clearly want to bring a couple of other defensemen
- 36:40Speaker 3: in in town, and that's going to cost money down
- 36:44Speaker 3: the line, Kle mccarr is gonna cost money. These are
- 36:47Speaker 3: things that now they're in the same situation the Nuggets
- 36:50Speaker 3: are in, and money is part of the deal here,
- 36:53Speaker 3: and they have to clear room. They have to clear
- 36:56Speaker 3: cap space and say what you want about See. I
- 36:59Speaker 3: like Jack drewy. I thought he was Yeah, I liked
- 37:02Speaker 3: him a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, But that's a luxury
- 37:04Speaker 3: item on this team, right, It's a luxury item that
- 37:07Speaker 3: you can part with and still play at a certain level. Yeah.
- 37:11Speaker 4: I don't know what Jack's gonna get, but you can't
- 37:13Speaker 4: be paying a fourth line center the millions that he's
- 37:16Speaker 4: gonna get, even though, like, yes, everybody likes Jack, he's
- 37:19Speaker 4: a really good player and he's a really good teammate.
- 37:21Speaker 4: But yeah, you can't be you can't be making you
- 37:23Speaker 4: can't you can't.
- 37:23Speaker 3: Pay that fourth line center.
- 37:25Speaker 4: Now, Uh, well that's a good question. It could be
- 37:27Speaker 4: Shretchkov the guy that you just traded for because he
- 37:31Speaker 4: is a center, or you go down to the a
- 37:34Speaker 4: and uh, grab a man, that's a good question. I
- 37:38Speaker 4: don't even know who your fourth line center is gonna be,
- 37:41Speaker 4: if it's not Shreshkov, or if there's somebody down there
- 37:44Speaker 4: with the Eagles that you can grab. Do you think, like,
- 37:47Speaker 4: how different is Joe Sackett gonna.
- 37:53Speaker 3: I think he's adding he's gonna add some sandpaper to
- 37:56Speaker 3: this roster.
- 37:56Speaker 4: You think so, you think that's what But once again,
- 37:58Speaker 4: me and Nelly were talking about an hour ago, the
- 38:01Speaker 4: problem with the way the Aves slipped on the banana
- 38:04Speaker 4: peel and crashed out of the playoffs is is like
- 38:08Speaker 4: there is no one, even hockey experts, can't watch that
- 38:11Speaker 4: series and point to one particular reason why the Avs
- 38:15Speaker 4: got smoked. So you can't just say, well, listen, man,
- 38:18Speaker 4: it was. It was brock And or Marty or whoever
- 38:21Speaker 4: it is. You can't just point to one thing and
- 38:22Speaker 4: say all we have to do is fix that and
- 38:24Speaker 4: we're fine. Not everybody played bad in that I mean
- 38:26Speaker 4: that was everybody crashed out in that series. So you
- 38:29Speaker 4: can't it's hard to give one particular reason other than well,
- 38:34Speaker 4: you know, everybody played bad, So I almost put more
- 38:37Speaker 4: more of the blame on your best players because in
- 38:40Speaker 4: a game in a Western Conference finals, your best players
- 38:43Speaker 4: have to be your best players, and for the Avs
- 38:44Speaker 4: they were not.
- 38:46Speaker 3: No, And the dynamic now between McFarland and Pachic is
- 38:51Speaker 3: funny to me because in the back of my mind,
- 38:54Speaker 3: you're thinking, who's getting the best of whom? Yeah, Like,
- 38:58Speaker 3: what's happening here? Yeah? Is is somebody in another guy's
- 39:01Speaker 3: here saying hey, you know, take this guy? Or is
- 39:04Speaker 3: another guy Hey, I'll take that guy. Like Who's who's
- 39:07Speaker 3: winning these little deals here?
- 39:09Speaker 4: Like it feels like so it was the first deal
- 39:11Speaker 4: with was Ross Colton, Right, was it Ross? Where McFarland's like,
- 39:15Speaker 4: I love him, let's bring him in. Yeah, And I
- 39:17Speaker 4: bet you he already knew as soon as he accepted
- 39:19Speaker 4: the Nashville job. He was like, I couldn't pay Jack Jury.
- 39:22Speaker 4: I know, they can't pay Jack Jury. They don't want
- 39:24Speaker 4: to pay him what I could pay him, So let
- 39:26Speaker 4: me call it side. Yeah, he was driving the car here,
- 39:29Speaker 4: so he knows exactly who you go after. Yes, he
- 39:32Speaker 4: knew exactly. He was like, yeah, we're not gonna be
- 39:34Speaker 4: paid to be able to pay Drury what he wants.
- 39:36Speaker 4: So let me let me call Colorado and try to
- 39:39Speaker 4: get him so it's all worked out. But I don't
- 39:42Speaker 4: mean vic is is do you think anybody else is
- 39:45Speaker 4: gonna go?
- 39:45Speaker 3: Is anybody?
- 39:46Speaker 4: I mean? Are they gonna send Val out?
- 39:48Speaker 3: Or you know? Are you have difference between the Nuggets
- 39:50Speaker 3: and the Abs? Is this? And tell me if you
- 39:51Speaker 3: were on the same page, if you told me run
- 39:55Speaker 3: it back with both franchises, and in cluarly, the Abs
- 39:57Speaker 3: are not going to run it back. They've already rid
- 39:59Speaker 3: themselves with two players role players. I would be more
- 40:03Speaker 3: comfortable in the Avalanche roster running it back because I
- 40:06Speaker 3: really think that things the way they unfold it. You
- 40:08Speaker 3: can make a couple of little tweaks and I can
- 40:12Speaker 3: play that series ten times over. They're not gonna get
- 40:15Speaker 3: swept ten times over. It's not gonna happen that way.
- 40:17Speaker 3: It's just not I really believe that. Some of you
- 40:20Speaker 3: may think otherwise, but I believe that this team, this
- 40:23Speaker 3: roster is good enough, it's good enough to run it back.
- 40:27Speaker 4: So do I don't know if you feel the same way. Yes, No,
- 40:30Speaker 4: I kind of feel the same way. I mean, listen,
- 40:33Speaker 4: I love to hit the panic button because I overreact
- 40:36Speaker 4: to everything because I'm a prisoner at the moment, and
- 40:39Speaker 4: after you lose four straight to a team and that
- 40:41Speaker 4: I hate, I get kind of freaked out. Un let's say,
- 40:44Speaker 4: let's blow it up. But me and Ella were having
- 40:46Speaker 4: this conversation when we were talking about vibe checks for
- 40:49Speaker 4: the four major teams here in the city. And you
- 40:51Speaker 4: know what, you know who's fourth place on the vibe
- 40:53Speaker 4: check and it's the Nuggets. It's Nuggets. Because I got
- 40:58Speaker 4: I got. I feel really good about what the Broncos
- 41:01Speaker 4: are doing. I feel pretty good about what the Abs
- 41:04Speaker 4: are doing. Listen, the Rockies are still the worst team
- 41:08Speaker 4: in Major League Baseball again, but they you know what
- 41:10Speaker 4: I mean, like they at least there's hope. At least
- 41:13Speaker 4: there's a little bit of hope. And I just I
- 41:15Speaker 4: just can't wrap my head around losing to Minnesota without
- 41:21Speaker 4: what three of their best players winning two games in
- 41:25Speaker 4: the first round of the NBA Playoffs. That's that's a
- 41:28Speaker 4: failure of.
- 41:31Speaker 3: You know what.
- 41:31Speaker 4: Everybody keeps talking to Joker, and Joker just you know,
- 41:35Speaker 4: he he just spits the truth. He just tells you,
- 41:37Speaker 4: He's like, no, we just weren'tn't We weren't good enough.
- 41:38Speaker 4: We're not good enough. We're not good enough. And if
- 41:41Speaker 4: you if you're John Wallace with Ben Tenzer or Josh
- 41:45Speaker 4: Cronky and you hear Nicole O could say we're not
- 41:49Speaker 4: good enough. And this is the like the four teams,
- 41:52Speaker 4: I just mentioned that the vibe checks, the greatest player
- 41:56Speaker 4: is playing for the Nuggets of all, you know what
- 41:58Speaker 4: I mean? Like, the best basketball player is playing for
- 42:01Speaker 4: the Nuggets. So why are the vibes so off?
- 42:05Speaker 3: What do you do?
- 42:06Speaker 4: How do you dress that? How do I mean when
- 42:08Speaker 4: you hear jokers say what he says? And he said
- 42:10Speaker 4: it more than once now he said right after the
- 42:12Speaker 4: playoffs ended, and then he said it when he was
- 42:13Speaker 4: talking with the Serbian team just this week. What do
- 42:17Speaker 4: you if you hear that and your Ben Tender and
- 42:19Speaker 4: John Wallace, what do you think?
- 42:20Speaker 3: Well? I think when you don't arrive at expectations, whatever
- 42:25Speaker 3: those expectations might be, you're always disappointed. Some teams expectations
- 42:30Speaker 3: are just to make the playoffs. Others are to win
- 42:33Speaker 3: a playoff series. The Nuggets had the highest expectations you
- 42:37Speaker 3: can possibly have with this roster. The expectations were simple
- 42:41Speaker 3: a year ago, when we looked at this team on paper,
- 42:43Speaker 3: we said, this is a championship team. It's a championship
- 42:46Speaker 3: team that's going to play in the NBA Finals. Well,
- 42:49Speaker 3: they finished woefully short of those expectations. Mark, Yeah, that's why.
- 42:54Speaker 3: That's why, I mean, I don't understand why people in
- 42:58Speaker 3: even in the Nuggets organization, why anyone would be surprised
- 43:03Speaker 3: that they're catching heat over any moves that were made,
- 43:07Speaker 3: or you lost in the first round. That's woefully short
- 43:14Speaker 3: of expectations. And those are expectations.
- 43:17Speaker 4: Set by your own players, coaches.
- 43:20Speaker 3: Team, Those were your expectations as well. That's why it's
- 43:26Speaker 3: pretty simple. The Rockies, Like I'll take the Rockies for example,
- 43:31Speaker 3: what were their expectations going into the season.
- 43:33Speaker 4: Oh, just don't be the worst team in the history at.
- 43:35Speaker 3: Baseball likes again, right, yes, yes, well you know they're
- 43:39Speaker 3: getting there, right, They're getting there? Yeah? Yeah, at least
- 43:43Speaker 3: that's how I view sports. That's how I look at sports.
- 43:45Speaker 3: And again, everyone's expectations are different. But for the Avs
- 43:51Speaker 3: and the Nuggets, we expected parades.
- 43:54Speaker 4: Manh it's Tyler nothing and it will be again next year?
- 43:58Speaker 3: Is that is that wrong? Is it? No? Is it overboard?
- 44:03Speaker 4: I don't know, No, dude, I mean, wait, like both
- 44:06Speaker 4: of us love the Nuggets, both of us work for
- 44:08Speaker 4: the Nuggets. Do you think we're are we looking at
- 44:11Speaker 4: this issue through nugget colored glasses?
- 44:15Speaker 3: Like? Do you?
- 44:15Speaker 4: I mean, are we too positive on the roster that
- 44:20Speaker 4: the Nuggets have? Because you're right? I mean, what are
- 44:22Speaker 4: they won fifty four games last year? I think it
- 44:25Speaker 4: was fifty four that they won last year and they
- 44:28Speaker 4: get bounced in the first round. They win just two
- 44:30Speaker 4: playoff games against Minnesota, timber littles team that you know
- 44:33Speaker 4: was banged up and beat up.
- 44:35Speaker 3: What so, what.
- 44:39Speaker 4: Do you think like my love of Joker and my
- 44:42Speaker 4: love of Jamal and Aaron because they brought the first
- 44:46Speaker 4: title to this team, do you think that is blinding
- 44:48Speaker 4: me and the Nuggets staff to what they really need
- 44:51Speaker 4: to do, which is kind of do what Minnesota's kind
- 44:54Speaker 4: of doing right now and just.
- 44:56Speaker 3: The toughest thing to do in sports is to say
- 44:59Speaker 3: goodbye to those who gave you something you've never gotten. Hey,
- 45:03Speaker 3: nas Reed can never say this. He didn't give Minnesota championship. No, no,
- 45:09Speaker 3: he did not Julius Randall can't say. Guess what, Anthony
- 45:12Speaker 3: Edwards can't say. They're not a player on that roster
- 45:16Speaker 3: over there who was involved in a parade, right, Nuggets were.
- 45:22Speaker 3: So it's a little different in it. So people say, oh,
- 45:25Speaker 3: look at Minnesota's being really aggressive, Well, guess what I'd
- 45:30Speaker 3: be aggressive too if you the best you got is
- 45:33Speaker 3: a Western Conference final. Right.
- 45:35Speaker 4: The Timbwolves have never been to the NBA Finals in history, right,
- 45:38Speaker 4: and the team.
- 45:39Speaker 3: Is they've never even been there, let alone won there. Yeah, yeah,
- 45:42Speaker 3: so it's different. It's different, dude, it just is.
- 45:46Speaker 4: Right, But don't I mean, are there any Nugget players
- 45:49Speaker 4: you believe are coasting on their title? Like one that
- 45:52Speaker 4: got to the top of the mountain said I made it, man,
- 45:54Speaker 4: I made it, and then kind of it's coasting, yes.
- 45:56Speaker 3: And I think it's just human reaction. And I'm not
- 45:59Speaker 3: saying I'm not going to accuse anyone of coasting. You
- 46:03Speaker 3: saw it in that first round series, they didn't seem
- 46:06Speaker 3: as hungry as Minnesota. It seem as hungry. Now maybe
- 46:11Speaker 3: they were just from the naked eye, they didn't seem
- 46:14Speaker 3: as hungry. Maybe to the playoffs bro the way, like
- 46:18Speaker 3: I wanted to ask this question last night to everybody
- 46:22Speaker 3: watching the NBA Finals, hell, watching the NHL, the Stanley
- 46:26Speaker 3: Cup Finals. What did those teams have that your team
- 46:31Speaker 3: did not?
- 46:32Speaker 4: Had that dog in him, had that fight, had it
- 46:34Speaker 4: man battle?
- 46:35Speaker 3: That's it. And last night when John Wallace was asked
- 46:39Speaker 3: about the two acquisitions, the two draft picks, the thing
- 46:42Speaker 3: he mentioned is we wanted to be tougher, tougher. He's right,
- 46:47Speaker 3: they do need to be tougher.
- 46:49Speaker 4: I feel like it for someone like you who loves ball,
- 46:54Speaker 4: the way the Nuggets lost in the first round had
- 46:58Speaker 4: to be I mean, you had to hurt your soul,
- 47:01Speaker 4: that edited your heart, because what happened was the Minnesota
- 47:04Speaker 4: timbulves called you punks and you did nothing about it.
- 47:08Speaker 4: You did nothing about you took it.
- 47:14Speaker 3: I heard you talking in the appetizer hour, and Avalanche
- 47:17Speaker 3: fans are obviously disenchanted as well because you got swept
- 47:20Speaker 3: bies and getting swept is never fun. Sucks. But when
- 47:25Speaker 3: the Nuggets lost the way they did, I feel like
- 47:28Speaker 3: a piece was taken away, like a piece of your soul,
- 47:33Speaker 3: because they challenged your manhood publicly and took it.
- 47:41Speaker 4: Yeah, something I never thought i'd see mark Stone.
- 47:46Speaker 3: Mark Stone did not go in front of the cameras
- 47:48Speaker 3: and say yeah, no, that blue line is soft, we
- 47:52Speaker 3: can skate right by. He didn't say that, right, He
- 47:55Speaker 3: didn't say that yeah, but J McDaniels did, and you folded.
- 48:01Speaker 4: They called you.
- 48:03Speaker 3: That bothers me more than anything that took place in
- 48:06Speaker 3: the series. And I know rational human beings will say
- 48:10Speaker 3: to me, well, you can't get emotional. You can't win
- 48:14Speaker 3: on emotion. But that's the part of sports I love most.
- 48:19Speaker 4: That's what sports is.
- 48:20Speaker 3: Sports is emotion. Sports is everything that you want. It
- 48:25Speaker 3: is the highs and the lows. And if you can't
- 48:28Speaker 3: get emotionally fired up, when somebody calls you weak and soft,
- 48:33Speaker 3: why are we playing?
- 48:34Speaker 4: Yeah, you're fat? If yeah, it almost felt like they
- 48:37Speaker 4: were fat and happy, and it was just like whatever, No, No,
- 48:40Speaker 4: you got called out and you didn't answer the bell,
- 48:43Speaker 4: you didn't show up, you got knocked down and you
- 48:45Speaker 4: didn't get back up, and it's.
- 48:46Speaker 3: Am I off on that. I'm speaking to everybody listening
- 48:50Speaker 3: here because I hear coaches, executives, everybody in sports say,
- 48:57Speaker 3: you know, don't get too emotional, play your game. But
- 49:02Speaker 3: when you get called out, all bets are off. Yeah,
- 49:06Speaker 3: screw that.
- 49:07Speaker 4: You gotta you gotta step up. Somebody bows up and
- 49:10Speaker 4: you got it.
- 49:10Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what, you won't be surprised by
- 49:13Speaker 3: this berdo when when I was at Notre Dame, we
- 49:16Speaker 3: had this this this big basketball tournament called Bookstore Basketball.
- 49:20Speaker 3: It's the largest five on five UH tournament in the world.
- 49:23Speaker 3: Over a thousand teams playing right, and it's big. It's
- 49:27Speaker 3: a big deal. It's the biggest thing on campus. And
- 49:29Speaker 3: you you work all year to play in this tournament.
- 49:31Speaker 3: I mean, like, teams get serious. My senior year, I
- 49:34Speaker 3: was voted the most hated man in Bookstore. I hated.
- 49:38Speaker 3: They actually have an award for that.
- 49:42Speaker 4: You were Dylan the villain at Notre Dame. You were
- 49:45Speaker 4: you were that guy where you just love it. I
- 49:48Speaker 4: love it.
- 49:50Speaker 3: I love to be hated.
- 49:51Speaker 4: And we need one of those guys on the nugget.
- 49:52Speaker 3: I love it.
- 49:53Speaker 4: We need one of those guys.
- 49:54Speaker 3: Give me five of those guys.
- 49:55Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they don't have one of them. They just don't.
- 49:58Speaker 4: But you, I mean, find me one of those guys.
- 49:59Speaker 4: Vic find me one on every team. Yeah, you can't go.
- 50:03Speaker 4: Can you trade for Jane? I mean Minnesota's wild out
- 50:06Speaker 4: right now they're trading everybody. Maybe you go get Jake.
- 50:08Speaker 3: When when when the Avs won the Cup in twenty two,
- 50:11Speaker 3: do you remember how hated Noskadri was? Oh yeah, yeah,
- 50:14Speaker 3: yeah yeah. Do you remember how hated he was?
- 50:16Speaker 4: Yeah, he was getting booed while scoring a hat trick
- 50:19Speaker 4: in that game and say yeah he yeah, hated that
- 50:21Speaker 4: guy score.
- 50:22Speaker 3: For So did that harm the avs chances of winning
- 50:25Speaker 3: a Cup? Oh?
- 50:26Speaker 4: No, helped help?
- 50:28Speaker 3: Why do people? Why are people afraid of emotion when
- 50:31Speaker 3: it comes to that's not hard of it, man.
- 50:33Speaker 4: Maybe it's the nerd analytic guys who are like, I'm
- 50:35Speaker 4: not in it for the.
- 50:36Speaker 3: Moment, the analytics crowd. I don't resonate with them because
- 50:41Speaker 3: they take emotion out of.
- 50:43Speaker 4: Sports, and the reason we play sports is for the emotion.
- 50:48Speaker 3: And nothing more. It's for the emotion.
- 50:52Speaker 4: I get you, brother, Well, you know what we talked way,
- 50:55Speaker 4: we got to take a quick time out. We will
- 50:56Speaker 4: roll on with MLK next