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Ken Rosenthal’s Inside Scoop: Rangers hire Boone, Pages emerging, Correa’s Twins Odyssey · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: We never asked for the other side in this case,
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  Speaker 1: we're not.
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  Speaker 2: It's my show fair territory with Ken Rosendaal and Ken
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  Speaker 2: Rosenhaal is going to get what he wants.
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  Speaker 3: To the inside scoop with that FT senior insider Ken
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  Speaker 3: Rosenthal kind of know you're coming off the Braves Dodgers series,
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  Speaker 3: So you wrote a little bit about Mookie Betts and
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  Speaker 3: how he's doing this year. I feel like we haven't
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  Speaker 3: really talked about him enough, So can you enlighten us
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  Speaker 3: on some things that you learned from the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting with Mooky. People say, well, maybe his.
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  Speaker 2: Offense was down for a period because he's playing shortstop,
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  Speaker 2: putting so much emphasis into that, and he said, no,
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  Speaker 2: that's not.
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  Speaker 1: It at all.
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  Speaker 2: What happened was that when he lost the twenty pounds
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  Speaker 2: or so with that illness he had back in late March,
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  Speaker 2: it took him time to kind of get his strength back,
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  Speaker 2: get his bat speed back, and he was chasing bat speed.
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  Speaker 2: That's how he put it, chasing bat speed because he's
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  Speaker 2: below average in that department even with healthy and he
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  Speaker 2: wanted to get it back up there. And then he
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  Speaker 2: created some bad habits trying to chase bad speed.
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  Speaker 4: So lately he's.
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  Speaker 2: Been really good again, and I expect him to continue
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  Speaker 2: to be really good.
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  Speaker 1: He's Mookie Betts.
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  Speaker 2: And as for shortstop defensively, guys, he has played really well.
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  Speaker 2: He's rating really well according to the advanced metrics. It's
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  Speaker 2: still a little early with the sample size to get
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  Speaker 2: too deep in the woods with that kind of thing.
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  Speaker 2: But he's playing well and that's the main thing right now.
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  Speaker 5: Ken, How was that raind lay on Saturday? That's all
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  Speaker 5: I want to know. How was that raindo lay? That
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  Speaker 5: three hour rain three hour raindo lag?
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  Speaker 6: Again?
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  Speaker 2: I suggest you tune into Fair Territory on Thursday and
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  Speaker 2: tune into the dork of the Week segment, because.
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  Speaker 7: I mean the groundskeepers in Atlanta, that's not nice. Ken.
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  Speaker 2: It might be a guy who bragged about being part
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  Speaker 2: of a broadcast that was not part.
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  Speaker 1: Of a rain delay and then had a rain delay.
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  Speaker 5: It was still are three hours and twenty minutes with
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  Speaker 5: a raindowlay, and we were still three hours and twenty
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  Speaker 5: minutes with a fifty seven minute to reindo lay. I said, you, guys,
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  Speaker 5: a picture in my room. I was back at like
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  Speaker 5: jen thirty and you guys were just starting.
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  Speaker 2: We were like a three hour five minute rain delay
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  Speaker 2: and then a three hour six minute game is something
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  Speaker 2: like that, which was a first for me in my career.
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  Speaker 1: That was interesting.
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  Speaker 5: Wow, good for you, Ken, good good, good for you.
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  Speaker 5: What else are the Dodgers? What else are the Dodgers?
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  Speaker 5: I mentioned this the other day show. Hey, hit his
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  Speaker 5: ninth homer, but at the time he had eight homers
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  Speaker 5: eleven RB eyes where's the rby eyes for show?
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  Speaker 6: Hey?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I haven't looked at it that closely. It's interesting though.
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  Speaker 2: He is running again a tenth stolen base last night,
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  Speaker 2: and people were saying, well, he's gonna pitch this year,
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  Speaker 2: he won't run. It seems to me that he's going
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  Speaker 2: to run until.
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  Speaker 1: He pitches, and we've seen that so far.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you one other thing about the Dodgers that's interesting,
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  Speaker 2: and it speaks to lower half.
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  Speaker 1: Of their lineup. Lower part of their lineup.
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  Speaker 2: Andy Pies has really come on of late, and he's
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  Speaker 2: a guy who kind of is a natural hitter. Dave
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  Speaker 2: Roberts calls hitting Page's superpower, and he's a guy who
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  Speaker 2: just kind of needed to get more athletic in the
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  Speaker 2: box stopped thinking so much. Stop being so robotic, so mechanical.
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  Speaker 2: They basically said, taskar. Hernandez told him this. Dave Roberts
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  Speaker 2: told him this, Just go play man, Just get in there.
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  Speaker 7: React.
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  Speaker 2: What you do in the cage, that's preparation for the game.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't mean you have to carry everything you're doing
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  Speaker 2: into the game from the cage. And it seems to
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  Speaker 2: have liberated him. And here was a guy who was
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  Speaker 2: a big question at the start of the season, and
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  Speaker 2: now it looks like he might be part of their
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  Speaker 2: core group, integral to what they do.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, Ken, one more thing on the Dodgers. Are they
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  Speaker 5: going to be able to go college rotation the whole year?
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  Speaker 5: Yamamoto Friday Sazaki Saturday? I know was Glass now on Sunday,
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  Speaker 5: but whoever's I guess it's Dust to May Now Sunday's
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  Speaker 5: his day. Are they going to be able to carry
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  Speaker 5: this through the whole year because every start Yamamoto's had,
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  Speaker 5: Sazaki had and it was Glass now has been Friday Saturday.
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  Speaker 5: So it's like a college rotation.
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  Speaker 2: No, and they don't plan to do that, And in fact,
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  Speaker 2: the way their schedule shapes up, AJ they're going to
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  Speaker 2: go I don't know if it's a pure five man,
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  Speaker 2: but Yamamoto would be pitching on the fifth day his
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  Speaker 2: next turn. In fact, Dave Roberts on Friday night took
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  Speaker 2: him out an inning earlier than he might have because
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  Speaker 2: the next start will be on the standard four days rest,
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  Speaker 2: so it's not going to be a college rotation all
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  Speaker 2: season long. They're going to manipulate it as they always do.
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  Speaker 2: We know that, but because of the schedule, they've got
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  Speaker 2: to go to.
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  Speaker 8: A more normal grouping right now, Ken, in a spirit
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  Speaker 8: of this segment, the Inside Scooped, I need you. I
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  Speaker 8: need to get an inside scoop on a subject that's
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  Speaker 8: been talked about a lot lately. So I promise I
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  Speaker 8: won't go too far into this. But you joined Jason
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  Speaker 8: Stark and you know Saras and writing the story about
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  Speaker 8: the strike zone changing and the things they've gone along
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  Speaker 8: with that. What I am fascinated to know is how
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  Speaker 8: did that, how did the strike zone be becoming smaller
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  Speaker 8: come to your attention? How did this story even come about?
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  Speaker 8: Because I'm always bad, and how you guys learn about
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  Speaker 8: this stuff and then decide to pursue that story.
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  Speaker 2: Trevor, I won't give exact names here, but I'll tell
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  Speaker 2: you the idea of how it came about. So basically,
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  Speaker 2: Jason was in the clubhouse one day and I won't
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  Speaker 2: name the team even, but a picture on that team,
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  Speaker 2: prominent picture kind of came up to him and said, hey,
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  Speaker 2: what is going on with his own And from that
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  Speaker 2: point Jason discussed that with him and kind of thought,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, this is something we should look into.
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  Speaker 2: It's something we started looking into. And at the athletic
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  Speaker 2: we have the ability because we have so many writers
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  Speaker 2: to kind of ask everyone on our staff, all right,
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  Speaker 2: ask your pictures this, ask your catchers this, ask your
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  Speaker 2: managers this, and that's what we did, and we collected information.
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  Speaker 2: We have also maybe the best data driven writer in
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  Speaker 2: the world.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Sarahs.
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  Speaker 2: So he started looking at the data and confirm that
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  Speaker 2: what the pictures were telling us was true, that the
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  Speaker 2: zone is different. And then in talking to officials from
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  Speaker 2: Major League Baseball in the Union, we learned that in
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  Speaker 2: the umpire CBA the definition of the buffer zone changed.
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  Speaker 2: The buffer zone being that area around the zone that's
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  Speaker 2: actually outside the strike zone, and it was two inches
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  Speaker 2: all the way around.
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  Speaker 4: In the umpire CBA, they changed it to three.
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  Speaker 2: Quarters of an inch, So basically, Trevor, it was a
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  Speaker 2: step by step process, but it began with the player. Actually,
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  Speaker 2: multiple players coming to us and saying, hey man, this
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  Speaker 2: doesn't seem right. And it's funny because when we went
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  Speaker 2: to Major League Baseball we kept telling them this is
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  Speaker 2: player driven.
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  Speaker 1: This is not us trying to stir it up.
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  Speaker 2: We often get accused of that and sometimes we're doing
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  Speaker 2: it and sometimes we're not.
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  Speaker 4: But in this case, this was player driven.
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  Speaker 5: Speaking of players, duh Boone as he used to want
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  Speaker 5: to be called, is duh da Boone is now a
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  Speaker 5: hitting coach.
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  Speaker 7: Did anybody see this coming?
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  Speaker 5: Is this one of the more this I don't know
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  Speaker 5: if this ranks as high as Sean Casey getting the
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  Speaker 5: Yankees jobbuster, because at least Casey was on MLB.
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  Speaker 7: Network and he was around. But Brett Boone. I saw
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  Speaker 7: him in San Diego.
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  Speaker 5: He was just hanging out at the beach and hanging
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  Speaker 5: out his home, and you know, he went and saw
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  Speaker 5: the Braves and that was it.
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  Speaker 7: Now he's the hitting coach. Is this one of the
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  Speaker 7: crazier moves in baseball?
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  Speaker 1: I was surprised, aj very surprised.
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  Speaker 2: Now I know the Boone. I remember him as the
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  Speaker 2: Boon was doing a podcast. I even was a guest
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  Speaker 2: on this podcast, I don't know, a couple of months ago,
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  Speaker 2: and it was pretty entertaining.
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  Speaker 4: He was It was a good podcast.
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  Speaker 2: But I guess now you can go from doing a
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  Speaker 2: podcast to becoming a major league hitting coach. Now, certainly
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  Speaker 2: he was a major league hitter in his day, had
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  Speaker 2: a good career, but he has a prior relationship with
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  Speaker 2: Bochie and that seemed to be part of this. And
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  Speaker 2: maybe they just want someone with his kind of energy
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  Speaker 2: and his feel for the game. It's interesting to me
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  Speaker 2: that a guy coming into.
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  Speaker 1: The game now having been out a few years.
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  Speaker 2: It's a whole different world, as you guys know, with
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  Speaker 2: the information that coaches have to process and relate to
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  Speaker 2: their players all of that. But the Rangers, I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 2: have two other coaches to do that. They have a
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  Speaker 2: hitting coach justin field, an assistant hitting coach. Perhaps Boone
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  Speaker 2: is just going to be this would be oversimplifying, but
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  Speaker 2: more of a vibes guy and more of a guy
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  Speaker 2: just kind of seeing things, working with hitters and doing
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  Speaker 2: it that way while the other coaches that they have
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  Speaker 2: deal with the analytics and all of that.
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  Speaker 5: He's maybe that's why they did bring him in Ken
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  Speaker 5: is just to not have all the analytics in their
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  Speaker 5: head and just try to be more of a player
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  Speaker 5: and like, go hit. But it might be time for me.
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  Speaker 5: It might be time for me to bring back my
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  Speaker 5: shirt that says I know the boom that he gave
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  Speaker 5: me once he's like, you have to be a friend
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  Speaker 5: of mine. He gave me a shirt that said I
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  Speaker 5: know the boom.
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  Speaker 2: Personally, I'm just happy he's back in the game. We
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  Speaker 2: need more guys with his kinds of personality because he
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  Speaker 2: is a live wire.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's an entertaining SoundBite. And like Ben mentioned, I
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  Speaker 3: mean he's a podcaster, right, and a different kind of podcaster.
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  Speaker 3: I know Casey had a show too, but it's a
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  Speaker 3: little more tempered Brett. Boone will get after it, so
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  Speaker 3: I hope that he gives us some money quotes. He
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  Speaker 3: has fun to cover. What do you think this says
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  Speaker 3: about the state of the game when we do get
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  Speaker 3: guys mid season jumping in like this right out of
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  Speaker 3: black Field. I think Casey's a great comp right, they're
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  Speaker 3: both forms biggers. They were not touching anything in the
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  Speaker 3: coaching world during that time period. They're both doing like
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  Speaker 3: little media stuff and then they just hop right into
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  Speaker 3: the mix of a very serious base all season.
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  Speaker 2: To me, it's surprising because of just what you said.
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  Speaker 2: These guys are not part of the.
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  Speaker 1: Mix, so to speak. They're not in the game really, Okay.
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  Speaker 2: See as Aj mentioned was on MLB Network or maybe
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  Speaker 2: a year that mentioned it's Scott.
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  Speaker 1: He was kind of in the mix to some degree.
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  Speaker 1: Boone has not really been.
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  Speaker 2: And again, when you go in now, when you've been
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  Speaker 2: out a little bit, even if you've been out a year,
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  Speaker 2: things change in a year, more data becomes available, different
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  Speaker 2: kinds of data becomes available. But again, with teams using
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  Speaker 2: multiple hitting coaches, multiple pitching coaches, there can be room
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  Speaker 2: for everything. And I believe that's where this is going,
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  Speaker 2: and that's where it's right now. You have a coach
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  Speaker 2: to do, a a coach to do be, a coach
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  Speaker 2: to do see. They all of course have overlapping duties
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  Speaker 2: as well, but perhaps there is a place for the
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  Speaker 2: X Big leaguer again who has a great knowledge of
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  Speaker 2: the game that has been frankly not taken so seriously
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  Speaker 2: enough over the past few years. And in addition to
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  Speaker 2: the drive line kinds of coaches and the other data
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  Speaker 2: driven kinds of coaches and the unorthodox places that they
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  Speaker 2: come from, we can have the standard type of coach,
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  Speaker 2: or at least the one that used to be more prominent,
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  Speaker 2: and kind of mix it all together. That is what
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  Speaker 2: would be great to see, and it would reflect a
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  Speaker 2: balance that we have not seen necessarily over the past
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  Speaker 2: several years. And I would like to see that kind
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  Speaker 2: of balance come back into.
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  Speaker 8: The game, speaking of the blending of old school and
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  Speaker 8: nude school ways of playing baseball, and I think that
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  Speaker 8: we are seeing a lot of that blending happening again,
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  Speaker 8: and I think the game is getting healthier for it.
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  Speaker 8: But another guy bringing a little bit of an old
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  Speaker 8: school I guess skill set to the game.
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  Speaker 6: Chandler Simpson. Love watching the guy run.
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  Speaker 8: So what does he mean to the Tampa Bay Rays
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  Speaker 8: Because he doesn't even seem like he's worried about how
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  Speaker 8: hard he's hitting the ball at all. He just wants
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  Speaker 8: it between the lines so that he can show you
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  Speaker 8: how fast is Trevor.
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  Speaker 2: He's meant a lot, and I talked about him at
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  Speaker 2: length yesterday on Fair Territory. He's one of my favorite
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  Speaker 2: players now.
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  Speaker 1: And he's one of my.
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  Speaker 2: Favorite players because he defies everything that teams are looking
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  Speaker 2: for now.
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  Speaker 1: Exit velocity.
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  Speaker 2: No, in his case, exit velocity isn't necessarily a thing
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  Speaker 2: that you're chasing exit velocity, hitting the ball hard. In
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  Speaker 2: his case, it's better off when he doesn't hit the
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  Speaker 2: ball hard, when he mishits it, when he's off balance,
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  Speaker 2: when a soft ground ball.
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  Speaker 4: Can let him use his speed.
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  Speaker 2: He's also a guy that, in addition to this incredible
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  Speaker 2: contact ability and speed, is evolving as an outfielder. He's
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  Speaker 2: in center field. He's kind of new at the outfield,
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  Speaker 2: but he has incredible speed, and eventually the Rays believe
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  Speaker 2: that his game will catch up to his running ability.
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  Speaker 1: It's not there quite yet, So to me, it's just
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  Speaker 1: fascinating to see this player.
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  Speaker 2: And here's one other point about him.
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  Speaker 1: Fascinating to see a.
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  Speaker 2: Player who, yes, we have war to measure him, wins
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  Speaker 2: above replacement, and we have all the typical measures. But
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  Speaker 2: when you have speed the way Chandler Simpson offers speed,
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  Speaker 2: there is a disruption that takes place.
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  Speaker 1: In the game that cannot be quantified.
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  Speaker 2: He makes the pitchers nervous, obviously, makes him throw more fastballs.
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  Speaker 2: He makes fielders react more quickly and sometimes haphazardly.
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  Speaker 1: There are all kinds of.
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  Speaker 2: Things that are going on with him that make him
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  Speaker 2: kind of an intriguing impact player. Now, what does he
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  Speaker 2: need to do offensively.
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  Speaker 4: To be a true impact player?
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  Speaker 2: The way it was described to me, if he hits
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  Speaker 2: three hundred with a three fifty on base and a
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  Speaker 2: three fifty slug that's kind of a low slug, then
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  Speaker 2: he'll be fine because of all that he offers on
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  Speaker 2: the bases and presumably in the future defensively as well.
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  Speaker 2: I love watching this guy play. I like players who
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  Speaker 2: are different. Luisa Rise is different. This guy is Luisa
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  Speaker 2: Rise with speed and defense.
• 14:02
  Speaker 5: Ken Carlos. Aaron Gleiman recently wrote an article about Carlos
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  Speaker 5: Karah and his struggles. What's going on there and is
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  Speaker 5: there anything to do with health or is it a
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  Speaker 5: simple Hey, you signed here and we promised you we're
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  Speaker 5: gonna spend a bunch of money and now we're not
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  Speaker 5: doing anything well.
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  Speaker 2: He has been dealing with a risk thing and he
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  Speaker 2: had Planter faciitis the last two years, different feet, so
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  Speaker 2: health has been part of it.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: He's not a guy who makes excuses, and he hasn't
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  Speaker 2: made excuses, but for what they're paying him, the production
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  Speaker 2: is simply not where it needs to be, and he
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  Speaker 2: knows this. So the Twins, they're getting Royce Lewis back
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  Speaker 2: or got Lewis back.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see what they can do when healthy.
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  Speaker 2: They've had a very disappointing start to the season, been
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  Speaker 2: better of late. They have a really good rotation, some
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  Speaker 2: pieces in the bullpen that you like, but they're in
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: a tough division. Detroit is better, Cleveland is always good,
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  Speaker 2: and Kansas City is again showing signs that it could
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  Speaker 2: be a contender. So I'm not quite sure where it's
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  Speaker 2: going with the twins, but they need Korea to be
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  Speaker 2: healthy and productive, they need Lewis to be healthy and productive,
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  Speaker 2: and so far Buxton has been that both healthy and
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  Speaker 2: productive and really good.
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  Speaker 9: Ken.
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  Speaker 3: I know we're a little bit early, so I'm not
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  Speaker 3: going to go too crazy, but eventually we are going
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: to shift to some trade talk. I'm wondering if you
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  Speaker 3: think that there could be any action over the next
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  Speaker 3: let's call it six weeks or so. We did get
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  Speaker 3: one from what I recall last year in Luisa Rise,
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  Speaker 3: and there are quite a few clear cut teams that
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: aren't going to be involved. And because there are so
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: many teams in the wildcard discussion that might make the
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: playoffs by a game, let's look back at last year
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: Diamondbacks just missed, Mets and Braves had the madness at
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: the end of the year. It could be the difference
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: between a team winning a World Series and not. Do
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: you think that could maybe push us to get anything
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: done a little bit early, because I hear the other
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: side from executives saying, hey, the draft has really messed
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: us up. Just don't want to focus much until after
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: the draft, I'm like, damn, then let's move the draft
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: back to June.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Well, the draft should be back in June. This is
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: an MLB thing that I've never quite understood, and it's
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: kind of wrecked the lives of people in the front
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: offices because.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: They have all this going on in July.
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know that MLB much cares about that, and
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: maybe they shouldn't if it's best for the game in
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: their minds. I just don't think the draft is getting
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: that much more attention in July than it did in June.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: That said, can we see early trades.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: Of course, it's possible, but it seems to me that
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: the deadline is always what drives the bulk of the activity.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: And yes, a team like the Marlins acted quickly last
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: year with the rise. Sandy Alcatra is their big guy
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: this year, and he's struggling right now. He's struggling to
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: regain his equilibrium as a pitcher after missing so much
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: time coming off to Tommy Johns. So you don't want
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: to trade him now. You want him to get some
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: momentum and go back to being what he was if he.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Can get to that. So that's going to be a
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: while now.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Yes, you have teams like Chicago White Sox and Colorado
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Rockies who are.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Already out of it.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure they have great pieces to move, impact pieces.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: So teams can just wait and see what develops and transpires.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: And teams also want to look at them all their
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: own particular needs, not just at this time, but looking
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: ahead as well.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: What they might need now.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Is entirely different than what they might need in late July.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: And why fire the bullet now and trade certain prospects
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: that you might want to preserve for a future deal.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: So all these things work against it. Scott, It's not
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: out of the question that a deal could take place
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: in May or early June or late June. But there's
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: a reason, or there are multiple reasons why those deals
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: don't frequently occur.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: Ken you mentioned the draft. Why can't we here's a
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: great idea for you, And I didn't come up with this.
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: Someone else did way smarter than me. To have the draft.
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: At the College World Series, right, you have all the best,
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: supposedly the best eight teams there with the best players.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: Then you have all the high school kids fly out
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: there that are all committed to these schools. So then
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: these kids get drafted and then we can watch the
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: college coach try to cry and be like, no, please come,
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: We'll pay you a million dollars to come to Florida
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: instead of going for five million in the draft.
• 18:16
  Speaker 7: Please think of the drama we could have. It'd be
• 18:18
  Speaker 7: an awesome show. Plus everybody would be in one location.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: I like the idea of the draft of the College
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: World Series, not necessarily for the reason of seeing coaches cry,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: but it is a logical thing to do. It would
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: kind of increase interest to the College World Series.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: And the draft in my opinion.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: But MLB again seems hung up with the idea that
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: it's better All Star Week, and they believe that it
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: is drawing more attention all Star Week. I just don't
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: see that it's making that much of a difference, that
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: much of a difference where you needed to push it
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: back until July when you had it in June. But
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: people can disagree, and MLB has its reasons, and obviously
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: they're one of there's the reason.
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: Here's the reason.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: It saves them a year because a lot of the
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: guys don't get to play that first year because they
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: pushed the draft back so far. The minor league seasons
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: are like, oh, just don't play this year and by
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: the time they sign and all that, the season's over.
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: Whereas before in June, I signed, so that counted on
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: a year as a year for me to get to
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: my Rule five status. They don't want that anymore. It
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: gives them next year control.
• 19:21
  Speaker 9: It's simple.
• 19:22
  Speaker 7: It's a simple reason.
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: They cut the minor leagues, and therefore they don't want
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: on as many players and they don't want to have
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: as many people playing. It's it's a simple equation. It
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: has nothing to do with popularity. It has to do
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: with they just don't want to do it.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Guys do play, yeah, but they also change the rules
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: where that year doesn't count.
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: That year doesn't count, and there's a different rules than
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: what it used to be. Because you could get to
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: that Rule five you know, had to be protected on
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: the forty man faster.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: All right, aj, I must admit that I'm not fully
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: well versed on this particular topic. So I'm going to
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: pass on a comment to your comment.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: I went, I'm gonna turned into a debate and on
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: Saturday debate.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know Saturday.
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna play that over and over I want to
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: hear that, and I'm just gonna play it Saturday every time.
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: Let's go to Ken. I'm not as smart as Ajay Boom.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna leave you with this, Scott, I'm gonna leave
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: you with this.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Tune in to Fair Territory on Thursday.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: For the Dork of the Week because we're gonna have
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: some fun and I'm talking to one of the people
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: who is a really strong candidate for that. In fact,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: he's not even a strong candidate.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: He's the winner.
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: Wow, first two time winner.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: No, Well, it's named for John Fisher for a reason.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: John Fisher won so many times that we at some
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: point just decided to name it after him.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: But it's pretty rare to win twice.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: And we're gonna show some text messages that will reveal
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: exactly why you're the dork.
• 20:47
  Speaker 9: Of the Week.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: I truly genuinely as someone who gets to sit next
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: to our friend so often and be very excited for
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Fair Territory.
• 20:55
  Speaker 9: And my last question, it will be a quick one
• 20:57
  Speaker 9: for you.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Here on the way out, Ken, how many seconds does
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: aj get to talk on Fair Territory?
• 21:03
  Speaker 9: How much talk time does he get on your show
• 21:06
  Speaker 9: to be.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Able to oh perfect, Okay, so it'll be a one
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: sided dork of the week, call out your favorite AJ.
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: That's what reporters do. They just ambush it and then
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: they don't give you a chance to rebut it.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I understand that's exactly what reporters do. You nailed to AJ.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: We never asked for the other side in this case,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: we're not.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: It's my show Fair Territory with Ken Rosenthal, and Ken
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Rosenthal is gonna say what he wants.
• 21:32
  Speaker 9: It's in the mission statement for Fair Territory. So Ken,
• 21:35
  Speaker 9: thank you. We look forward to Thursday show. We'll see
• 21:38
  Speaker 9: you then. Thanks guys, thank you.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, check out Fair Territory on Thursday, coming in hot.
• 21:44
  Speaker 9: Okay, if you like this show and you're waiting for
• 21:47
  Speaker 9: that moment, we'll get it.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Also, just because I didn't have time and I wanted
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: to let those two go at it, I have not
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: met a single soul or talk to a single fan
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: that's like, yep, that's the spot for it right there,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Sunday night before the All Star Week begin, I want
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: to spend a minute here trying to figure out what
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Ken's going to bring up on Fair Territory. I genuinely
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: don't know aj do you have a hint forest, Did
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: you guys have a little back and forth?
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: No, So our crew was in Baltimore on Saturday and
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: his crew was in Atlanta, and so the whole thing is, oh,
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: you guys are going to get one hundred percent of
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: the country because we're going to start in raindolay, So
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: you guys be ready, which was fine. So we do
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: our show and I'm kind of texting them before the
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: game there you know, I know all their crew and
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: all the people behind the scenes and.
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: Ken and Adam. I mean, who's my buddy.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: And I just said to him, I said, enjoy that
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: rain delay. We got it, Watch and learn kids. And
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: then about after the first inning, we got a fifty
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: seven minute raindo lay because I sent that which, by
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: the way, it came out of nowhere, literally nowhere.
• 22:44
  Speaker 7: It was clear skies.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: And then we see the groundskeeper for Baltimore go to
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: the umpire and they throw the tarp on it. We're like,
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: it's not even going to rain. I mean, in thirty
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: seconds it started monsooning, and fifty two or fifty seven
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: minutes later, but they started up again and we still finished, right,
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: we finished, and they were just starting their game in Atlanta.
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: So then I sent them a picture of me in
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: my hotel room watching their game as I was laying
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: in bed.
• 23:09
  Speaker 9: All right, that's the good stuff. That's the good stuff
• 23:12
  Speaker 9: right there.
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I like that.
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: I won, and I got a picture of them in
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: the in the elevator at one fifty seven am. They
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: had just gotten back to the hotel, so that there
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: was a picture of them in the elevator going up
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: to their room and that was long since a sleep.
• 23:27
  Speaker 9: So that's aj side. We'll get Ken side on Thursday.
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  Speaker 8: I actually went down in twenty twenty three to Salt
• 24:37
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• 24:40
  Speaker 8: salt Lake to rehab to get back in shape after
• 24:45
  Speaker 8: my anxiety sent Okay, I all said. When I got there,
• 24:49
  Speaker 8: I was told, Hey, here's which system musing. So I
• 24:52
  Speaker 8: got to pitch three times. I believe I pitched once
• 24:55
  Speaker 8: with the ABS Challenge or two with the ABS Challenge
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: system and one just ABS straight up. And one of
• 25:01
  Speaker 8: the questions I had for my pitching coach was where's
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: the strike zone? Okay.
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: Unfortunately he didn't know this was a quote. He said.
• 25:11
  Speaker 8: The son smaller but I can't tell the pictures exactly
• 25:14
  Speaker 8: how we just know it is. It seems up and
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: down have tightened up, but we haven't gotten clear information
• 25:20
  Speaker 8: on how much it's tightened up. Meaning strike someone got shorter, Okay,
• 25:24
  Speaker 8: and that's just part of like figuring out how this
• 25:26
  Speaker 8: thing's going to work.
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: So I was actually then I got to the back
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: to the big leagues. I was in Detroit and there
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: was someone who works for the Detroit Tigers, and I'm
• 25:35
  Speaker 8: so sorry, sir, if you're watching the I cannot remember
• 25:37
  Speaker 8: your name for the.
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: Life of me.
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: By someone who is intimate with the testing process. They
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: are overseeing it, and I've talked publicly about it a
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: little bit. He's like, hey, let me give you some
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: background on him, and I go, what's the biggest difficulty.
• 25:48
  Speaker 8: It's funny, I'm interviewing this guy, but I'm in uniform
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: and I'm in the bullpen, and he goes, the biggest
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: difficulty is just the calibration of it, deciding how we
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: want the robots to determine what a strike is.
• 26:00
  Speaker 9: Good stuff.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: I like that show. I watch it on Mondays. It's
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: called May Day. So Trevor, how do you think you
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: did on your monologue. Is it weird to watch yourself
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: back when you just get on a.
• 26:10
  Speaker 9: Roll like that.
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: I'll be honest, I'll watched every single one. I just
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: love it.
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: No, actually I only watched that one because I wanted
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: to hear how that lab mic sounded. But yeah, that
• 26:23
  Speaker 8: that was an interesting, really interesting story. And then I
• 26:26
  Speaker 8: got to, you know, obviously ask Ken about earlier and
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: I do rates and Barrels with Eno Sarras, So I
• 26:32
  Speaker 8: was like, we were trying, we were preparing for our
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: show that we do on Fridays when he's trying to
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: figure out when that story's going live. So I got
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: to hear all about this and a lot of things
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: that I personal conversation I had kind of kind of
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: linked it all together. So the interesting thing about that
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: strike zone thing is they're trying to decide whether or
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: not they want to do a three D zone or
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: a two D zone or because right now it's like
• 26:53
  Speaker 8: wherever it crosses the front of the plate, they don't
• 26:55
  Speaker 8: know if they want to do the back of the plate.
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: They don't know if they wanted to do like half
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: the balls a strike as opposed to the just a
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: little bit of the ball, Like, all of these questions
• 27:01
  Speaker 8: were things that were constantly going through their mind and
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: they were testing and that's why it's taken so long
• 27:06
  Speaker 8: for this thing to get to major leagues. But I
• 27:08
  Speaker 8: think the change of the strike zone is an indicator
• 27:10
  Speaker 8: that we're about to get the at least the challenge
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: situation probably next year, which I think is a good thing.
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: I'm excited to see how teams use their challenges. I
• 27:19
  Speaker 8: think it's a new mechanic in a baseball game that
• 27:22
  Speaker 8: could be that could team some teams are going to
• 27:24
  Speaker 8: be better at than others, and that that's always something
• 27:27
  Speaker 8: I'm a fan of. So it was, but it was
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: fascinating hearing about how that's all kind of played out for.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: In game experiences. It is going to change things significantly.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, we had been seeing the pitch clock for
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: I want to say twelve this year's at this point,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: because it hung around for a decade before it was
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: finally implemented, and I feel like there was some generation
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: of younger fans that we kind of lost because the
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: games were getting out of control in terms of the pace,
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: not the time, the pace, and for me, aja when
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: this gets implemented next year year. I think the fan
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: experience is going to be wild.
• 28:02
  Speaker 9: You know, if you're.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Age eligible, maybe you throw back a few and and
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: you're into every single call from the home plate dump
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: and you get to play along and tell you're a
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: manager to challenge when you think that they're off the mark.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: You also will get humbled if you think that they
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: should challenge and they do, and then you're wrong. But
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty excited about it. What do you think?
• 28:21
  Speaker 9: Do you do you understand the whole three D two
• 28:24
  Speaker 9: D thing?
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: For me?
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the thing for me is the strike zone
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: is actually supposed to be three D. Right, if the
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: ball touches any part of the plate and any part
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: of the strike zone, it should be a strike. So
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: if you throw like a big curveball and it might
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: miss and it might just clip the front of the
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: plate and it almost bounces on the plate, that can
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: be called a strike. So it's supposed to be three D. Now, well,
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: how will they'd figure that out?
• 28:46
  Speaker 7: I don't know.
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: The technology is supposed to be way better than that.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: But I was at a game in spring training when
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: we did our Philly show in Philly and Clearwater and
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: they had it is the first time I saw the ABS,
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: and there was like three challenges in the first inning,
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: and every time the guy went like this, the whole
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: crowd was, oh, he was right, yeah, and they all
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: cheered because the Phillies guys were and the Empire missed
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: like three in the first inning, right, but they were.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: Everyone's on the edge of their seat. The little graphic
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: pops up, Philly is challenging the call, here comes the ball,
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: and then they got it right in the whole crowds like, yeah,
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: we got one right. It was just something added entertainment
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: to the game.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Actually, Trevor cebe Buckner with a day like he had
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: the other day, is going to potentially extend these games
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: by another ten to fifteen minutes because you get.
• 29:33
  Speaker 9: To do a heat check. If you're hot and you
• 29:35
  Speaker 9: know your zone, you can just keep challenging.
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: Until everyone just a whole game.
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: And then and then Sebee has to like adjust and
• 29:44
  Speaker 8: he can't just gaslight ess to say he was right,
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: Like he's got to prove it. And it's funny. A
• 29:51
  Speaker 8: j I noticed that as well, that the fans really
• 29:54
  Speaker 8: loved it. It's like they're watching the hat game like
• 29:56
  Speaker 8: fifteen times in a game now and that instead of
• 29:59
  Speaker 8: just once.
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: So they're like, it's two, it's two, and then they
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: all get excited when they're right.
• 30:03
  Speaker 8: So if it adds a little bit of like tension,
• 30:06
  Speaker 8: a little bit of excitement because it is quick, they've
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: like locked that in.
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: It's not taking too long. They haven't had that issue.
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: So that was the first thing they were worried about,
• 30:14
  Speaker 8: like slowing the game too down, too much. But they're
• 30:16
  Speaker 8: fast with it, and honestly, the umpires takes a little
• 30:19
  Speaker 8: pressure off them. And some of the reactions from them
• 30:22
  Speaker 8: have been pretty funny too, where they're like, despite my
• 30:24
  Speaker 8: best efforts, I was right, you know, like stuff like that.
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: I love that too. It added some fun. So I
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: just don't think there's a real downside to it.
• 30:33
  Speaker 8: I just think more calls getting right, and the players
• 30:36
  Speaker 8: have a say, and the managers have a say, and
• 30:39
  Speaker 8: the fans have something to get excited about and a
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: little bit of tension built. So I think it's a win, win, win.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: And millions of dollars are on the line in a
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: variety of ways. You're gonna have consistency. That's generally cool.
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: I like consistency. I mean, this is you know, one
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: of those topics where I feel like AJ often says,
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: I can't talk because I didn't play. I'm happy to
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: stay aside, but on this part, I'm talking from the
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: fan perspective.
• 31:03
  Speaker 9: This is freaking awesome. It's going to be great.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Is there a line, sure, five, six, seven challenges something
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: crazy like that where you're getting way too many of them? Okay,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: that might be the line right where there's like so
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: many borderline calls being checked. But if you only have
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: a few, you've got to make sure you use them
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: correctly and get rid of the blatant ones. So if
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: an UMP's brutal or having a bad game and keeps
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: missing the zone really badly, then I'm okay with fifteen
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: challenges in the game because they'll keep reactivating since you're
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: getting them right.
• 31:36
  Speaker 9: So anyway, fun topic.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: We'll keep an eye on it because I think we
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: all agree that next year is probably the year where
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: it's happening.