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The Vikings Tailgate: Roy Wood Jr. & Alex Schubert | CIN | Episode 32 · The Vikings Tailgate

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  Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of the Tailgate. We have an
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  Speaker 1: amazing one this week. Roy Wood Junior. You know him
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  Speaker 1: from The Daily Show. He's got a bunch of specials
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  Speaker 1: on Comedy Central. He's one of my favorite comics. He
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  Speaker 1: is fantastic. He's a Dolphins fan originally, so we talked
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  Speaker 1: to him a little bit more generally about the NFL
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  Speaker 1: and a bunch of stuff. And then we had another
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  Speaker 1: buddy of mine, a great comic from Cincinnati, Alex Schubert,
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  Speaker 1: on at the end of the show to talk about
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  Speaker 1: the Bengals specifically, So you get a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: everything in this episode, Roywood Junior, and then a game preview.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, if you are a fan of
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  Speaker 1: Roy like i am, he's gonna be in Minneapolis Friday,
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  Speaker 1: February ninth at the Fillmore. They just added a show
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  Speaker 1: favorites to watch. You gotta go check it out, enjoy
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  Speaker 1: the show. Everybody, y'all know what.
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  Speaker 2: Tom did.
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  Speaker 3: Here. We gotta go and then we gotta go.
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  Speaker 4: Let's go till Tom.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, We are joined by the great Roy Wood Junior,
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  Speaker 1: lifelong Dolphins fan. Hello, Roy, Hello. I hate to start
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  Speaker 1: with this. Uh, Monday was insane. The Dolphins are the
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  Speaker 1: most interesting team in the league to me.
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  Speaker 2: Don't say it like that. You're trying to be kind
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  Speaker 2: because I'm wearing a Dolphins jersey. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: this whole That whole weekend was a lot of you're
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  Speaker 2: ten and three, but it seems like you could be
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  Speaker 2: seven and six if you start looking at it. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: but like what they did with the Eagles, they started
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  Speaker 2: looking I don't know if you saw the stat that
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  Speaker 2: came out the point differentials with the Eagles, Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they won a bunch of games, but they've all been
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  Speaker 2: close and when they lose, they lose y Whereas the Dolphins.
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  Speaker 2: It was the argument had been up until this point
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  Speaker 2: that oh, you only beat soft teams, you don't step
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  Speaker 2: up to play, when like the Eagles came in and
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  Speaker 2: pimp slapped you like you've been you've been, you've been
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  Speaker 2: slapped around a couple of times, and then a Titans
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  Speaker 2: team who you should have beaten, you lost to. So
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  Speaker 2: now who's the real tending for? You know, like, are
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  Speaker 2: you're you're a division leader? But are you're a playoff team?
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  Speaker 2: So I think there's definitely some questions, but I think
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  Speaker 2: the questions for the Dolphins are more so on defense than.
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  Speaker 1: There that That's that thing that shouting people on sports
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  Speaker 1: shows do this time of year, the pretender contender conversation,
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  Speaker 1: And I think the Dolphins have been made like the
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  Speaker 1: poster child of that conversation. But I think you're right.
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  Speaker 2: Is the icy or spicy? The icy spice? Which one
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  Speaker 2: you think? Jimmy Jerry is?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Are you are you getting? Is this team a fraud?
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  Speaker 1: Or are you giving them the nod? It's insanity. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: can we get a former a two ninety pound former
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  Speaker 1: head coach who hasn't who hasn't taken a breath near
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  Speaker 1: a football stadium in eighteen or nineteen years and have
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  Speaker 1: him scream about why your favorite team is untrustworthy? But
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  Speaker 1: it's it's all the teams though. Every you guys got
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  Speaker 1: made into the poster child. But like the Chiefs, the
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  Speaker 1: Brown all these The league is weird, man, right now.
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  Speaker 2: I'd say, I mean, even the Niners took a took
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  Speaker 2: a heavy loss. I hate to admit that the Cowboys
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  Speaker 2: might be the realest of the double digit win teams
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  Speaker 2: right now in terms of the least amount of questions
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  Speaker 2: considering who, you know who I need to pull up
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  Speaker 2: who they lost to it. But like when they win,
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  Speaker 2: they win, and they beat teams that were supposedly supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be good. The Dolphins, I think also part of it, though,
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  Speaker 2: if I'm being honest, I think a lot of it
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  Speaker 2: is also you're just happy for Tuam. You're happy to
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  Speaker 2: see a guy who deserves a chance to play well
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  Speaker 2: and have weapons out there on the field as well,
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  Speaker 2: So you know it's, yeah, the Dolphins are good. And
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  Speaker 2: then you know you can make the argument, oh they
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  Speaker 2: beat the Broncos was seventy The Broncos have kind of
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  Speaker 2: turned it around since that time.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, literally, that was the it almost that looked. Remember
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  Speaker 1: after that game, they're like, we should sell the Broncos,
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  Speaker 1: sell all them, sell everything in the building. But that
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  Speaker 1: almost they almost went the complete opposite direction than what
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  Speaker 1: everybody thought they would do after that moment.
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  Speaker 2: And that same shout and show Johnny Jammy at this
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  Speaker 2: point the Broncos is they smoking or is they joking?
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, after they lost the Dolphins, they joking. Fast
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  Speaker 2: forward to this week. I've always told you the Broncos
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  Speaker 2: been smoking. They always like a hypocritic. You don't remember
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  Speaker 2: the shit you said in October when he got blown out?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we should do, we should do. God, I would
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  Speaker 1: love Are they smoking or are they joking? Where are
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  Speaker 1: they now? Could I just get Could somebody just cut
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  Speaker 1: together every fraud or nod take from early in the
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  Speaker 1: season and just superimpose it into a singular bit.
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  Speaker 2: That would be great. That's great, dude, I would love.
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  Speaker 2: I've always said that if a sportscaster predicts the game wrong,
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  Speaker 2: he should not be allowed on air the following week. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It does feel sometimes like we live in a repercussion
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  Speaker 1: list society when it comes and that's that's the great Uh,
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  Speaker 1: that is the great thing. We live in America. We
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  Speaker 1: get to have our opinions. But every once in a
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  Speaker 1: while you turn on a sports show and you're like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, there has to be if we can
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  Speaker 1: suspend a guy for making a horse collar tackle. I
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  Speaker 1: think we could suspend a guy for what he said
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  Speaker 1: on for this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they'll never do it because that's the controversy.
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  Speaker 2: It's all click seeing you know, it is what it is. Man.
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  Speaker 2: I in the AFC. I don't think Kansas City is
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  Speaker 2: going to do it this year. The receivers have let
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  Speaker 2: mahomes down repeatedly, repeatedly, and then you want to show
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  Speaker 2: confidence in them and not make any moves. But it's like, shit, man,
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  Speaker 2: you got do you think now? Do you think the
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  Speaker 2: trade deadline is still too early in football? Mm? Hm?
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  Speaker 1: I do.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's week six. Did they extend it because
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  Speaker 2: we play seventeen now? I don't know if they pushed
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  Speaker 2: the trade deadline a week, but I still think the
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  Speaker 2: trade deadline should be like week ten.
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  Speaker 1: Week ten, That's exactly right. There's a reason it comes
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  Speaker 1: after the All Star break. And yet, like if you're
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  Speaker 1: trying to which I like, I think there are traditionalists
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  Speaker 1: who are like, I don't want to get it rid
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  Speaker 1: of it, like they don't want to see the NFL
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  Speaker 1: go the way of the NBA. But I'm a huge
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  Speaker 1: NBA guy, and I think a lot of the things
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  Speaker 1: that the NBA does, I would love to see them
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  Speaker 1: come the way of the NFL. And like, I'm a
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  Speaker 1: diehard Timbrelves fan, lifelong Timbrels fan, one of the most
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  Speaker 1: you know, disastrous organizations in professional sports. And now like,
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  Speaker 1: right now we have it and is a superstar. Kat
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  Speaker 1: is a beast, this gobear thing. Despite me walking around
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  Speaker 1: town shouting at strangers about how bad of an idea
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  Speaker 1: it was, it's working. It's working. And so and now
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  Speaker 1: I go, as an NBA fan, I go, okay, I've
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  Speaker 1: got this chance, and I know what the trade deadline means,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that would be really interesting, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like you take the Dolphins for example, like you guys
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  Speaker 1: did week ten, Week ten, you know where you're at.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lot harder to know where you're at in
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  Speaker 1: week six, week seven, stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: Correct, you still make an adjustments off of the first
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  Speaker 2: couple of games, And so the receivers didn't like it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't like drop city until around week six, seven, eight,
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  Speaker 2: where it started costing them games. Like you see a
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  Speaker 2: drop or two early, but you're winning, so it's like,
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  Speaker 2: hey man, no big deal. And then it gets a
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  Speaker 2: little deep into the season and going, all right, we
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  Speaker 2: looked at the tape. You lined up off side four
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  Speaker 2: or five other times, not just on the game winning
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  Speaker 2: latter role that got called back.
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  Speaker 1: That's it's that is the one that has been the
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  Speaker 1: most interesting to watch. You know, the hip, the off
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  Speaker 1: sides with the Chiefs, the hipocrisy around what happened in
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  Speaker 1: the in the super Bowl. But I think the more
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  Speaker 1: interesting story there is. And I'm curious what you think,
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  Speaker 1: because you love Tua and two is about to two
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  Speaker 1: is about to get He's gonna get paid in some regard,
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  Speaker 1: I think, even as great as Mahomes is, when these
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  Speaker 1: guys get paid, and as they should rooting for guys
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  Speaker 1: to get paid, but when they do, it changes the
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  Speaker 1: NFL is a math aquay. Now we talk about that
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  Speaker 1: on the show a lot. It just becomes really interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Even the great Patrick Mahomes, like you are sitting there going, oh, man,
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  Speaker 1: is it is it ridiculous that we think you need
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  Speaker 1: a Juju smisch like the things that you'd be grabbing for.
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  Speaker 1: You don't even need a coke. You'd take an RC
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  Speaker 1: cola right now.
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  Speaker 2: For what I really hope, man, is that as the
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  Speaker 2: league continues to grow, you have to do something to
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  Speaker 2: make the competition better because it's hard to see teams
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  Speaker 2: that are bad turning around. That's what makes the Broncos
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  Speaker 2: so interesting is that, for the most party, you correct
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  Speaker 2: me if from wrong, most NFL teams are what they
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  Speaker 2: are by around week ten to twelve. So if you're
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  Speaker 2: a flirting with five hundred ass team, that's what you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna be. You're not gonna go on a six game skid.
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  Speaker 2: But to rare for anybody to go on a six
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  Speaker 2: to eight game winning streak either and bash their way
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  Speaker 2: into the playoffs. You could be that mid level. You
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  Speaker 2: could be like an eight and eight, nine and seven
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  Speaker 2: ass team like the Steelers were in that wildcard year
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  Speaker 2: where they won with Jerome Bettis, get into the playoffs
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  Speaker 2: as a sixth seed and then run that bitch all
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  Speaker 2: the way to the super Bowl and it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: you make the adjustments. But they were never an overly
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  Speaker 2: dominant team that where the Colts were favored in the
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  Speaker 2: game that they beat them in in that first round.
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  Speaker 2: So which also Jerome Bettis, Nobody talks about how Ben
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  Speaker 2: Roethlisberger saved Jerome Bettis's legacy. Yeah, like that was his
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  Speaker 2: last year and he fumbled like.
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  Speaker 1: That is there's a deep dive. You're absolutely right, Jerome
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  Speaker 1: Bettis Is. There would be a whole different narrative around
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  Speaker 1: that dude in his career had that not happen.
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  Speaker 2: It would be it wouldn't be Scott Norwood level. You're
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  Speaker 2: a pariah, But it would be impossible to talk about
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  Speaker 2: him with talking about the playoff fumble to cost the stealer.
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  Speaker 2: But I just really think that doing whatever you can
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  Speaker 2: to increase the competition a little bit, I think is
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  Speaker 2: a good thing I do, And I'm probably in the
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  Speaker 2: minority on this because they're only at any given time
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  Speaker 2: in the league, there's only ten reliable quarterbacks out of
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  Speaker 2: thirty teams. Yeah, I feel like teams are now forced
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  Speaker 2: to pay players too much too soon, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: then you're stuck with a bunch of cap space that
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  Speaker 2: you've got to deal with for years and year.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, the amount of guys who've won titles on either
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  Speaker 1: rookie deals or second year deals that weren't as big
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  Speaker 1: as these monster deals they get later in their careers, right,
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  Speaker 1: it's Russ Aaron Rodgers won early, Roethlisberger won early and
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  Speaker 1: won on a second contract. It's and on and on,
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  Speaker 1: everybody except Bray, who took hilarious pay cuts for his
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  Speaker 1: entire career to build those giant rosters.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Flacco was that the end of his second deal. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: going into the third payday.
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  Speaker 1: That's the thing. Now, if you're viewed as, oh, we
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  Speaker 1: might have a guy here, we might have a guy,
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  Speaker 1: give him all them. He's got to get the money
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  Speaker 1: that the other guys get.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: That's the Daniel Jones thing. You have no choice.
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  Speaker 2: You have no choice. You have to pay Joe Flacco,
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  Speaker 2: even if you deep down feel like, all right, he
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  Speaker 2: was good enough to get us to the super Bowl
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  Speaker 2: based on the system, but he wasn't a guy that
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  Speaker 2: was going to just throw for four point fifty every
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  Speaker 2: single week, which is what you would expect a guy
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  Speaker 2: to get paid what Flacco got paid. Or Joe Burrow
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  Speaker 2: in its instance, now, who's gotten a super duper ria.
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  Speaker 1: I live here. It's about to get weird here.
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  Speaker 2: You have no choice because what do you do if
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  Speaker 2: you don't pay Josh Allen or Burrow? What's the alternative?
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  Speaker 1: I think it's like I'm a broken record on this.
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  Speaker 1: It's just football's a math equation to me, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't even like with the money some wide receivers are getting.
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  Speaker 1: Now you go, okay, well, then what comes off the
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  Speaker 1: board somewhere else and you have to I think, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it's ever gonna happen, but I'm curious if
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  Speaker 1: you ever. Because analytics are changing and the way teams
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  Speaker 1: are built, Like who's the GM coach combo that's gonna
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  Speaker 1: come in and go, all right, here's the deal. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna draft a quarterback every single year in the middle rounds, third, fourth, fifth, six.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna target somebody every year. We're always gonna have
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  Speaker 1: a journeyman, Josh Dobbs, Nick Mullins, you know, Joe Flacco
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  Speaker 1: late in his career, Gardner Minshew, the gas station goat,
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  Speaker 1: like any of those guys. We're gonna have one of
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  Speaker 1: those dudes on the roster, and whoever wins that job,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna give it to him. We're gonna keep that
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  Speaker 1: quarterback room money really low. We're gonna build this monster
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  Speaker 1: team like the Eagles with Jalen Hurts before he got
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  Speaker 1: that money versus after with that defense. So who's who's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be the one that goes? We will give a
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  Speaker 1: young guy a job, and unless he's Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady,
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  Speaker 1: Joe Montana, Aaron Rodgers, unless we go this is a
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Famer that elevates everybody, we're gonna cut him loose.
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  Speaker 1: And if he goes somewhere else and plays great, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna eat it. We're just always gonna have a great
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  Speaker 1: roster that cycles through. I mean, brock Perty's gonna get
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  Speaker 1: him there. And I don't know if that's because he's
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  Speaker 1: great or if he's great and cheap.
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  Speaker 2: Two hundred and sixty second pick overall Rock Party and
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna get paid and he should get paid. Who
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  Speaker 2: and he replaced Garoppolo, who was the second round pick
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  Speaker 2: in New England who they figured would be the guy
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  Speaker 2: to take over after Brady retire, and that you know
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  Speaker 2: that never came to But who was the other one?
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  Speaker 2: Was it Matt Castle that came out of New England.
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  Speaker 1: Too, Matt Castle. Matt Castle came out and did some stuff. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he wound up here in Minnesota for a little.
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  Speaker 2: Bit, I think. And and Castle was two hundred and
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  Speaker 2: thirtieth overall by the Patriots. So what you're saying is
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  Speaker 2: that you take the Patriots approach. You have a journeyman
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  Speaker 2: like a Cousin's or a Fleco who just comes in
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  Speaker 2: and he'll get your eight wins and you'll hopefully get
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  Speaker 2: two more from your two more wins from your defense,
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  Speaker 2: and you just keep drafting one dollar scratch offs mm
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  Speaker 2: hmm in the fourth through seventh rounds knowing that one
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  Speaker 2: of those got damn one dollar quarterback scratch offs is
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  Speaker 2: gonna pay fifty thousand dollars. Sooner or later, you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: get a You're gonna get a brock Perty, You're gonna
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  Speaker 2: get a six round Brady. That's what you're saying the
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  Speaker 2: strategy should be for viting.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll double down on it because I because Brady
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  Speaker 1: took those pay cuts. Every year, there's some outrageous stat
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  Speaker 1: where like, no, only in the last twenty three years,
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  Speaker 1: only twice has a quarterback making more than twelve point
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  Speaker 1: five percent of their salary cap won the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: It's Brady one year and it's Mahomes last year. So
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  Speaker 1: I think there's this huge skewed data set because Brady
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  Speaker 1: was smart to do what he did. And now you
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  Speaker 1: live in this world where I like, I think that
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  Speaker 1: parody you're talking about We're like, oh, the Chiefs they're
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  Speaker 1: missing a wide receiver, right, the Ravens. The Ravens can't
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  Speaker 1: quite put it all together. The Browns they go and
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  Speaker 1: spend all this money in a quarterback. And it's not
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  Speaker 1: like there's just this parody that exists that I think, Well,
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  Speaker 1: you're waiting for the lottery winner, like you're hoping to
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  Speaker 1: scratch a big one off. I think if you build
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  Speaker 1: your roster right, you might also sneak your way into something.
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  Speaker 1: You might go, oh shit, did Gardner Minshew did? Josh
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  Speaker 1: Dobbs did? And I know people are gonna be like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about two guys who haven't had great runs here,
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  Speaker 1: But I think great roster right now is winning in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. I And if you get Joe Burrow, hell yeah,
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  Speaker 1: give Joe Burrow every cent you have. But what are
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  Speaker 1: your standards for paying a dude?
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you look at dude. You live in New York.
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  Speaker 1: You watch Daniel Jones get get a boe bunch of money.
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  Speaker 1: Good for him, But then.
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  Speaker 4: You watch this.
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  Speaker 1: Italian insanity here like Tommy DeVito. I mean, it's the
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  Speaker 1: most fun in the world. And you also go, oh,
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  Speaker 1: my gosh, what if Tommy DeVito can do anything and
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  Speaker 1: he's not like blowing you know, the stat book up,
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  Speaker 1: but like, what if he can do that and you
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  Speaker 1: build a team around him. So I'm fascinated by the
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  Speaker 1: math of it.
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  Speaker 2: That's such a New York name.
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  Speaker 3: To the amount of pride that New Yorkers I can
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  Speaker 3: just I just know they're walking the streets with right
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  Speaker 3: now like they did it.
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  Speaker 2: But I think that's good. I think it's good when
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  Speaker 2: a city has a player that matches the mentality of
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  Speaker 2: the like this is a different sport. But Bryce Harper
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: playing for the Phillies, it's perfect. He's bearded, he's kind
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: of an asshole. He never smiles. That's Philadelphia, Like, I
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: like you, but I'm not gonna smile for you. And
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: if you disrespect me, bro we could go right now
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: wherever you want to do. Like he's staring at people
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: as he's rounding the basis. There was a sports writer
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: who said we love I think it was a Philadelphia
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: sports writer who said that we love Jalen Hurts, but
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: man brock Purty would be the king of the city.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: And you know, everybody took it as disrespect to Jalen
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: and oh it's racist, and you're just saying a white
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: man would get more love than a black man. And
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I'm like, it's Philadelphia. Didn't even make me telling the truth. Man.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: It's like that old Bill BurrH rant where he said
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: you'll have a statue of Rocky and he's not even
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: a real person. But Joe Lewis is actually from here
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: and you won't get him a.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that should be. That would be a fun league
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: if all of a sudden we just scrambled all the quarterbacks, right,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: all right, nobody has a quarterback anymore. We're gonna scramble
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: them all and we're gonna develop a committee that goes,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: we're gonna pick which quarterbacks personality most fits your city,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna ship them there. And there's actually some
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: ones that that match pretty well. I gotta tell you,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I think I think Kirk Cousins. Probably Kirk Cousins is
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: eating casserole and hot dish with a lot of a
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: lot of families and fitting and fine justin Herbert and
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: that hair makes the only place he makes more sense
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: than in Los Angeles is where they used to be
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: San Diego. There's a few of them that really really
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: makes sense Already.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Mark Jackson in Baltimore, He's got a rugged collar look
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: to him, like to me, a quarterback fitting in. The
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: question is could you picture that quarterback working a regular
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: job in that town. Lamar Jackson looks like he worked
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: a shift at a factory sometimes, like just disheveled and
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: just you got to get these kids up, man, God
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: damn it, man just stressed out. Tua looks like one
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: of those people in Miami where you I don't know
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: how you make your money? Yes, Like you ever see
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: people like that out in public just on a random
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: day and I'm like, it's work hours, Yeah, what do
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: you do? Miami's Miami's like Vegas, Like why are all
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: these people not at work?
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: He's got that. I could my money could come from
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: some sort of combination of DJ TikTok, Like there is
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: he's got that. If his hair was just a little higher,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: you'd be like, you're in a music industry that I
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: don't understand currently.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's a new technology thing. And
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: the way you monetize is that you get the digi
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: points and then you take the digit points and you
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: invest those. It's like beyond crypto, and and then they
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: just mumble the word block and chain, And then anytime
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: I hear the word blockchain, I just tune out. I
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: know it's important, but I just added.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Four hours later, you're just googling digi wallet, still not
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: understanding anything from the conversation.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what theck is this?
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I gotta tell you. Dak Prescott a human man named Dakota,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: like playing that that one. And I know, I know
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: it's funny that Dakota is an actual state and it
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: would make sense, but I don't know dak fits in
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I think Cowboys. It was fun to have uh
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Tony Romo there because he was one of the few
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Cowboys quarterbacks who didn't walk up to the podium like
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: hey y'all. And I know they don't talk like that,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: but they all have that swagger like I got guns
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: on my hips, I'm a cowboy. It's very weird how
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: that organization engulfs a personality.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence doesn't feel like a Jacksonville guy. He's loved
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: there and he loves the team's talking and shit. But
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: just yeah, if I saw just a picture of Trevor Lawrence,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I would not guess Jacksonville. The hair, the hair flows
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: too nicely.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they you'd have to guess. Did you hear Portland
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: started a football team.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you one. Two that fit in. And
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: maybe it's because they're so iconic now you can imagine
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: them anywhere else. But Marino in Miami. Yes, because Marino
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: was fun and just happy. He matched the vibe of
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: the city.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Looks like he wears a sport coat with a T shirt.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: That's what Marino looks.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he really does. You see him in sketch
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: your commercials and shit like he looks he looks like
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: that dude. Then there's Drew Brees in New Orleans who
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: you can look at Drew Brees and just go, yeah,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: that guy's got black friends. You got to in New
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Orleans like the white black dynamic. It's that city. The
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: racial dynamic is very communal, where you're seeing as a
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: New Orleanian first and your race second. Yeah, that's what
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: I've gleaned from New Orleans. So yes, he's a white
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: boy that I could see him kicking it with black
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: folks at some second line and him being perfectly accepted
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: with his family and his kids, and it not be
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: he he doesn't look like he would feel out of
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: place around other races.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: That's a really great take on New Orleans. And I
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: wonder because I've only been there, performed there, spent time
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: there post Katrina, So I wonder how much that cohesion
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: and that like community and that we're New Orleans first.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I wonder how much of that. I mean, that's certainly
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: not a football podcast.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Like Detroit's another one of those Yes, you're from Detroit first,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: and then you can be white or whatever you want
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: to be black after that. Yeah, but Detroit first and always.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: I met Marino once.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I need to hear it, because here Marina was almost
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: a Viking.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Didn't go well, Marino let me.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I want to hear about it. But I have to
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: tell you Marino, I think he's the I think Patrick
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Mahomes probably the most talented guy to ever throw football,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: but Marino's right there, and it might be Marino. I think,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: had he won a title, I think he's the greatest
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: quarterback to ever throw a football. I I'll have this
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: argument until people don't want to hang out with me anymore.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: He almost signed with the Vikings in two thousand for
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: a year, which would have been really fun. That was
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: the big thing when when they drafted Dante Culpepper, Marino
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: leaked out. He leaked it out recently, like in the
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: last few years. That after Wansted came in in that
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: last year and he was out, he had two options
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: to keep playing. One of them was Pittsburgh and one
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: of them was my One of them was Minnesota, and
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I as a lifelong fan of him, that would have
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: been really, really fun. I also, do you remember when
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: he was on the CBS show Know, Yeah, did the
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Morning's Have you ever seen any of the clips? He
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: has to be the most insanely competitive man on the earth.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: They would show him because those guys sit in the
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: studio and watch the game. They would show him. There's
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: videos on YouTube if they're still up, of him watching
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: his records get broken, and it's a level of rage.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Roy.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: What it's like is like a thirty year one night
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: or road Dog watching some kid open for him that
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: he just found out got a set on Colbert Like
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: that was the vibe, Oh god, the rage. I love Marina.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got an invitation to the Dolphins facility. I
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: was good friends with the guy who at the time
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: was a beat writer for the Dolphins, and he and
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: I went to college together. Because any man, you're doing
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: a show down here, come on out and come to
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: the practice. So I figure, all right, I'll just wear
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: a jersey. The only jersey I had at the time
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: was a Miami Dolphins custom Jake Cutler jersey that I
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: had made as a joke. And it was the year
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: after they released Cutler. Cutler was off in the summer
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: or whatever on a yacht naked. I don't know if
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: you remember that photo where he was on a yacht
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: with some woman with his ass out or whatever, and
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: so everybody used to call Jay. There used to be
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: a meme on Twitter called smoking j where when Jake
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Cutler was on the sideline, somebody added a cigarette to
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: his mouth to make it look like he really didn't
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: give up. And I think the play that defined Cutler's
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: time in Miami was he was lined up in the Wildcat,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: he was lined out wide and he just straight up
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: didn't even try to run the play and the action
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: is happening away from him, but he doesn't even bother
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: trying to sell to the corner that's covering him. It
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: was like the most laziest shit. So his name is
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: dirt for the most part within the Dolphins organization. And
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: then who comes onto the practice field today and moron
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: in a J. Cutler jersey, going, man, I'm so happy
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: to meet you, mister Marino, and and like a guy
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: pulls me to the side with another jersey, Hey man,
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: why don't you just go put this one on real quick?
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Just go. They wouldn't even let me go outside to
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: watch practice until I change shirts. The only thing I
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: can compare it to is like when you go, I
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: don't know if you've ever visited someone else's religious temple.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: You know you're breaking a custom because everyone's looking at you,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: but you don't know what you're doing wrong, Like is
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: my hat on? Should I take my shoes off? I'm
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: wearing a J. Cutler jersey at the Dolphins facil me
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: and that imagine waiting your entire career to meet the
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: man that was like an icon to you, but he
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: represents the organization and you're wearing the jersey of a
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: dude they just had to let go because he ran
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: shit into the ground. And it was just awkward for
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: the rest of the day for me at the facility.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: The first couple of minutes, the people I met after.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: They were very kind. This is pre Mike timeline. This
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: is the year after Cutler left, so this is like
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: five years ago, maybe six it And then here's the
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: other thing. Football is not that interesting to watch being practiced.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I was happy for the invite, I was happy for
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: the access. It was cool to see. But in the
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: bigger scheme of things, I wish I could have met
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Dan Marino at an autograph show. Yeah, and it probably
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: would have gone a lot more smoother and simpler. But
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: you know, football is battle. It's two a days in
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: the Florida Sun.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I just got done being by another grown man just
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: two days ago. All the grown men hit me. I
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: don't wanna, I don't wanna mess around right now, get
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: me out of here.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I and I really think of all the
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: professional athletes, football players are the toughest. They are straight
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: up gladiators. Man. So yeah, there ain't a lot of
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: chit chat. You just kind of wave if you look
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: up and make eye contact with one of the players
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: or something. But it was hope for a nod. Yeah.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: And then the only thing weirder than watching than having
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: an all access pass to watch football like I could
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: smell the players like I was close. The only thing
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: weirder than that is that people show up to watch
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: this in the preseason, Like I went to a Titan's practice,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: just goofing off half drunk, and there people They're like, yeah, man,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: I'm here to I'm here to see the team and
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: see all the half these is getting cut. No, I
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: get it. You get to see Derek Henry up closing
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: for free or eight dollars or whatever they charge. But
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: it was just such an to see people excited about practice,
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Like you, you know, you you think you're a fan,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: and then you go, oh, no, I'm not a fan.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: He's a fan. I just like him. Like fans go
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: watch practice. So when people are a football fanily, you
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: know met Dan Marino bad under unfavorable condition. So it's fine,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: it's fine to go watch them practice. But I just
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: read the watch. I'm just good just watching the game.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I like the games. I'm a big game guy. Yeah, yeah,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: I think that's okay. I think that's okay to have
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: your your limit. I talk about that a lot on
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: the show. Like I love the Vikings. I love watching them,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: my family watching them. It's been amazing to be a
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: part of the organization doing this show. But I have
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: a I think I have a good set of limits,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: and I think that's an important thing in sports. And
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: I also think that there are certain people who can
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: handle like I think it's an individual thing, like how
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: what are you as a person able to handle in
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: terms of emotional like commitment and influence and stuff where
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden you have Like I think, one
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: guy can watch his favorite team all the time, watch
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: the practice, listen to games, and then be very normal.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: If I did that right, I would be an absolute lunatic.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I would be the most unenjoyable person on the planet.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I have to set my boundaries and enjoy my team
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: as a fan correctly, or people will be like, so
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: I can't come to dinner. I hate him, he can't come.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just you know, I've tried to temper fandom.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: You know, I grew up selling selling so I was
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: a stadium vendor at Alabama games in high school. Oh wow,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: So I've seen fandom. I've seen like people fighting. But
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: the early days at the SEC Championship when it was
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: still played in Birmingham, when it was still building the
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Georgia dun Oh wow, ninety one, the Jeens Starlins national
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: championship team. I saw Peyton Manning and College Jamal Lewis,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: the Steve Spurrier old ball coach days with Danny Whirfol
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: and all of them mother they all came through Birmingham
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: and the fights you would see in the bathroom between
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Florida fans and Alabama fans every year doing those national
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: championship there were those a SEC championship days. That was like, oh,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: I'm not a fan. I just like, I'm not fighting
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: strangers on a piss covered floor because Eric Ritt is
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: a better running back than David Palmer. I'm not. I
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: did that just for the Viking fans by the way
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: out to deduce So like that, like or like when
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: I when I saw the Cubs win the World Series,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: I'm a Cubs fan. And then I heard stories of
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: like guys who during Game seven took a radio and
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: listened to the game next to their father's grave because
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: their father never saw the Cubs. I'm not that big
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: of a fan. I'm happy for you.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: You don't love the Cubs enough to be a part
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: of the start of a horror film.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: No, No, like what if a hand comes up the
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: ground and goes, thank your son. You did it.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Roy, You're the best man.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. Man. I appreciate it.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate it, dude, thank you.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: That was the great Roy Wood. Now we need to
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: talk about what's right in front of us. Let's talk
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: a little bit of Bengals. Let's talk a little bit
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: of Saturday. Joining me to help with that, not just one,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I have two human beings from Cincinnati. Fantastic comedian, longtime
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: friend of mine, and a Bengals season ticket holder, the
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: great Alex Schubert. Hey, Buddy, Hey Cyrus.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: I'm happy to be here.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: Thank you for me on Man, I'm appreciated.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: And also joining me is producer Jay Nelson, who I
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: have forced to be on this show because he and
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I have been discussing this.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: Game all year long.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I've spent a long time in Cincinnati. I've been looking
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: forward to this game. I've been riding the roller coaster.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I'm a fan that worries. We've established that on the show,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: and earlier in the year I was like, oh shit,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: we have to go play Joe Burrow. And then I
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: was like, oh boy, we get to play Jake Browning Jay,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: And now, as you know, over the last two weeks
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: via my text, my attitude has shifted to, oh shit,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: we have to go play Jake Browning.
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's the enemy that we actually know,
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: you know, with Jake Browning here at the Vikings for
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: a handful of years. And the thing about Jake Browning
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: is that he's been playing out of his mind the
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: last couple of weeks. So for me, it's been fun
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: to watch him do that and to see that, you know,
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: whenever you see somebody that you know succeeding, especially another spot.
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: The problem now is that we actually have to face him.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: It's terrible. I congratulations, Alex. I'm so happy that in
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: a year in which we are seeing our fourth quarterback,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: somehow one of our former backups is having a insanity
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: style moment. Also, let's talk about how bizarre the quarterback
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: carousel league wide has been. And for you guys especially
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I know down there, when Burrow went down half the city,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: if not more, we're like, it has to be aj McCarran.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: And it has shifted quickly. There are a lot of
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: people walking the streets of Cincinnati admitting they had the
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: worst take a couple of weeks.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: Ago, because it was after the Pittsburgh game. The Bengals
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: only put up ten points against a meager Pittsburgh defense.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: And then we're like, we gotta get aj mccaeron and
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: because he almost wanted a playoff game for US seven
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: years ago. But then immediately, like when Browning blew up
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: on Monday night, it's oh, we might be fine, and
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: we're as just as surprise as you are.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: And it's crazy how fine you've been. I mean, that
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: performance he put up against the Jags was bonkers, dropped
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: two thirty four point performances, and I would dislike you
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: and your team for it. But here's the thing. There
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: are very few organizations, not just in football but in
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: professional sports that go through the tortured fan base experience. Yes,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: now there are teams like the Jaguars who haven't done
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: much of anything, they haven't been around that long. But
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I'm talking the Cincinnati Bengals, you know, the Cubs before
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: they won the World Series. There are a small handful
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: of these teams. Alex and you and your fan base.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: It's it's hard to have any animosity for a team
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: who's had it so horribly for so long.
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  Speaker 4: I remember, so I have a story about this. I
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: was at a game in twenty fifteen. The Bengals started
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: eight and oh that year, and the ninth game was
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: a Monday night game against the Texans, which we lost
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: and was the close game. We lost it, and there
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: was one fan that shouted same old Bengals. I was like,
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: your eight and one? How but shoobs? What happened at
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: the end of that season. AJ mccaron came in and
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: we thought we had a playoff victory.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Same old Bengals. That man, you think that's a funny story.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: The man was right, and that's what I'm saying. That's
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: why it's I can't attack the Bengals fan base. I
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: think there's a kindred nature to our two teams. Now
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: that being said, I want you to lose and lose
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: miserably on this. We have to play on Saturday, which
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: is warping my brain as we approach the weekend. I
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: don't I don't. I know we're getting closer and closer
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: to football every day of the week, but the Saturday
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: thing just never sinks correctly in my brain. Uh, Jay,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: you have been egging me on with here's what the
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: people need to know about me. What I do every
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: year is I emotionally circle on on the schedule games
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: that I think we are going to succeed in and
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: games that I think we're going to struggle in, and
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: then there's this extra set of games that are games
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: that we should succeed in and we won't. And you,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: as a friend slash terrible person, have taken a lot
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: of the moment Burrow went down, I was like, that's
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: the one. Yeah, that's the one I didn't I didn't
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: see the Bears coming. Yes, I did not see that
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: one coming. But I've had this one circled and you
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: have been egging it on by showing basically this Chase
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Brown thing. Chase Brown has been nuts for the Bengals.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: They had, they have been terrible all season in the run,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they their version of Devin ah Chan,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: their version of Tony Pollard, their version of who pick
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: your fast speedy, you know, lightning back, and their team
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: is just entirely different.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: Well, what's crazy to me is that Joe Mixon has
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: been just such a workhorse for those guys that he's
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: been mister reliable, and then for them to all of
• 39:19
  Speaker 5: a sudden have their backup also blowing up here for
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: the last couple weeks. Like the thing that drives me
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: nuts about that is you go, oh, we got one
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: guy stopped, and the next guy comes in gives a
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: completely different look, and it kind of reminds me a
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: little bit of when we had Delvin Cook and Alexander Madison.
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: Get a little bit of your thunder and lightning there
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: with those guys. And so that's something that's really concerning
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: me this weekend about what the heck are we going
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: to see coming out of the backfield there in Cincinnati.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: That's the other thing. The AFC is wild. This isn't
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: the Tom Brady AFC, and it's not the even the
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes of last year or the year before. AFC.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: Every single team seems beatable on any given week. If
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: you told me that Joe Flacco and the Browns we're
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: gonna be in the AFC Championship, no shit, I would
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: believe it. If you told there's not a team that
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: you can tell me in the AFC that's in the
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: picture that I wouldn't buy into on some level, and
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: so on the scale of man, we thought our season
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: was dead and all of a sudden two thirty four
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: point performances later, we got a shot to win the
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: playoffs like that versus oh my god, if we had
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: finally got healthy, t Higgins comes back, Chase Brown is back,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: and everybody's playing with if we had Joe Burrow, we
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: might be a super Bowl contender. Like, where are you
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: existing on the emotional fans scale? Is it more just
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: happy to be in the playoff race or more like,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: holy shit, if Joe Burrow wouldn't have got hurt, this
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: could have maybe been our year. With how wide open
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: the AFC is.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: Well for me, I know now that we have Burrow,
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: I know that this is not out like we didn't
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: lose our last chance because Burrow is out for the year,
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: but he's also gonna come back next year. He's gonna
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: have Chase, maybe he has Higgins, wh knows he'll have Boyd.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: He'll still have his full weapons around him and an
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: improving offensive line. So with this year, I'm like, if
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: we get a wild card win or even a divisional win,
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: I'll be thrilled, especially with the backup.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: But now I'm gonna push I am gonna push back
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: on you. It's about to get weird for you, and
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't mean to bully you on the show,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: but it's all I talk about this show. For people
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: who listen, they have to listen for the great guests,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: because I say the same four or five things week
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: in and week out. I already said this on the
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: section with Roy, but your boys getting paid.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: As he is.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Next week it starts. It's gonna be really interesting that
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by which guys can continue to elevate a
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: roster when they don't have as good a roster as
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: they had when they were on their rookie deal. So
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: I I will say because I was down in Cincinnati
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: spending time in Cincinnati when they went on their Super
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Bowl run that first year, Yep, it was fascinating to me.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: And I remember doing this as a kid. When the
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: ninety eight Vikings lost in the NFC Championship, I was crushed,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: but I also remember thinking, well, this is just the start.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: We're gonna do this a whole bunch of more times.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: And that was the vibe in Cincinnati. It was people
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: were bummed, but everybody's like, well see you next year.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: It doesn't work like that.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: I think that's kind of the hope. Right now, like
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: this year, the AFC is so wide open. There are
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: six teams right now that are seven and six, and
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: the Bengals are one of them. And it seems like
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: of those six teams, the Bengals have the most momentum,
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: maybe out of all six.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Of them, absolutely and maybe weirdly, one of the least
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: flawed teams. If Jake Browning can be a legitimate game
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: manager and Jay that's why I've been scared of it
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: the whole time. I think they just have a lot
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: of pieces and there aren't. Interestingly, these two teams look
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: a lot alike to me. Yeah, you know they have
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: they're running with a backup quarterback and all the weapons
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: are getting healthy Because we just found out Jefferson's gonna
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: play right.
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: Thanks to the child reporter at the Christmas gifting event
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: that he had. The kid was pressing him as he's
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: walking down the aisle, and then Justin actually admits, Yeah,
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: I'm going to be playing Saturday.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: So no, for people who haven't seen that on social
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: JJ and I believe kJ Osborne, Yep, we're doing a
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: gift thing with They brought a bunch of kids into
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Target bought a bunch of gifts. It's a really great video,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: but one of the kids just wouldn't let it go shoots.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: He was like, are you playing? Tell me? Are you Like?
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: He just kept going at him. And that's literally there
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: are reports all over the internet now that and they
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: don't even mention the kid. That's the crazy thing. Yeah,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: I'll be on Instagram and it'll be like breaking news.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: JJ says he'll play this weekend. Nobody cited the kid.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: The kid is getting absolutely no credit. But Jay, that's it.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: They are. It is very, very similar teams. It's kind
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: of that Spider Man meme. Yeah, a bunch of weapons,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: a backup quarterback, a defense that can be really good
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: and let's see what happens.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: And I think the thing for us right now is
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: there's been this kind of backs against the wall mentality
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: for the last five games at this point. When Kirk
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: went out after that that Green Bay game, I think
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: there was really a rallying within the locker room saying
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: like cas is not dead. We're still fighting at this point.
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: And so for us, it's been something where we've been
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: in this kind of go mode for the last five games.
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: And I think when you look at a team like Cincinnati,
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: as dangerous as they are and multiple weapons, especially an offense,
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: and then you're getting the backup quarterback. It's not like
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: you're getting him one week off of you his first start.
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: You've seen a little bit of tape on him, and
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: you've kind of known who he was inside this building.
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: So at least for us, we kind of know what
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: we're up against, and hopefully that's going to help with
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: Flores's game plan going into the game here on Saturday.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: It'll be shoobes. It's hard to not ask a very
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: generic question right now. Okay, the Belichick coaching tree thrives
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: against backup and quarterbacks. Confusion is the name of the game,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: and Flores has played it very very well all year long.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: I'm curious, from your perspective as a Bengals fan, what
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: has to go right for your team this weekend? Like,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: answer this question, If blank happens on Sunday, the Bengals
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: are probably going to win this game.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: So one area that the Bengals have massively struggled in
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: which the Vikings are one of the probably the best
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: things in the NFL, is the Bengals have really struggled
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: to cover tight ends, and you guys happen to have
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: one of the best tight ends in the NFL in TJ.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Hockinson.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: And I'm not going to pile on here, but you
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: and I have gone back and forth about this a
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: lot because you got IRV Smith, and I have family
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: members who I watched jay this offseason when the Bengals
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: got IRV Smith. I watched Shoobes be enthusiastic about IRV
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Smith and hopeful, and then I watched family members of
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: mine ridicule him. Sure, and it was a fascinating dynamic.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: And now we get to see Irv. It just hasn't
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: turned out for you guys on tight end. You lost
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst. You can't. You haven't put yards on the
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: board on offense. But you're right, more importantly, you can't
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: stop it. It's almost a two way problem.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: There was a tweet a couple weeks ago that I
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: think a betting site put out that said, this man
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: is going to score tonight, and it was a picture
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: of Evan Ingram for the Bengals Jags game, and he
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: did on top of nine receptions in eighty two yards.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's and I gotta tell you, I think Hokinson
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: and the team need that. I think they need to
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: get right tight end week. So I would be happy
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: for Zach Taylor and company to just lay that out
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: for us. Now here's the thing I might come to
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: the game this weekend.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Alex.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, Jay. One thing you need to know about Alex
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: is he made a I'm gonna call it a lunatic decision.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: He loves the Bengals, made an take decision to buy
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: a single season ticket, and that either means you're one
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: of the biggest fans in the stadium or one of
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: the biggest wild cards as a human being. Alex might
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: be both.
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: I was gonna say, I think the ANSWER's got to
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: be both on that one.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: He's potentially both.
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: It's both.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: But the Bengals fan base, this isn't Philadelphia, There's not
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: There's not going to be an aggression down there. But shoobes,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: what is the what is the emotional vibe of the
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Bengals fan Because it to me, if I had to
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: describe it, I think that and this is how I
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: think a lot of Viking fans feel. But I think
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: they view themselves as Charlie Brown about to kick the
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: football that Lucy's holding.
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: And it's just instead of him missing it, it just
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: clanks off the upright.
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: But the thing is, shoobes. You can't take that from us. Literally,
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: Charlie Brown's from Minnesota.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: At this point, I was I, here's the thing. We
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: don't talk a lot of shit on this show, but
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: I've known Alex for twelve years and he's such a
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: sweet person. I just teed you up for the easiest
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: comeback stab, and you were too nice to let it happen.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I can't be a part of it. I don't talk
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of trash, but I will talk it in
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: this matchup. But I don't know. I think it's gonna
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: be a really interesting game. I think it'll be wild
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: to see Jake Browning. I never feel good playing a
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: prominent player that used to be on our squad. I
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: think professional athletes, no matter if they're a third stringer
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: getting their first start or a Hall of Famer, they
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: thrive on this shit. They love this. This is like
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: the psychology that makes someone achieve at the highest level
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: in athletics. You know, it drives the mentality that I
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: expect Jake Browning to come out with something to prove.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: I expect this to be a really, really tough game.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: I want to do predictions here, shoobes. We make everybody
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: do it each week. I know you're gonna be there
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: on Saturday. What do you got in this game? What
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: do you what do you think the final score is
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: gonna be?
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: I think if the Bengals can cover Hockinson and Justin Jefferson,
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: which very tall task.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Not possible.
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: No, it's not, especially since we're down KM Taylor, but
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: which sucks. But I'm gonna say, for my sake, with
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: the uncertainty, that the Vikings of a cord because this
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: is Nick Mullens's first starting like two years, so I'm
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: gonna say Bengals twenty three, Vikings twenty. I'm sorry, Sacket.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: Well, don't apologize. Be a grown up. The I refuse
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: to apologize for my score prediction. And I'm not even
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: gonna normally I tee it up. I'm not gonna tee
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: it up. I didn't like that apology. Thirteen for the Bengals,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty eight for the Vikings. Okay, that's
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: what I expect. It's not the jay The bit doesn't
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: work that well, when I deliver it like that, I
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: just didn't like. I didn't like being apologized to. I'm
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: the one that worries about my team, not you. Thank
• 49:57
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