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MINI SCROLL: Danielle Bernstein speech drama, Swiftologist vs. Adam McIntyre + Charly Anne Adventure scandal · Mini Scroll

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  The first story that I have for you guys is that fashion
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  influencer Danielle Bernstein is being accused of stealing her
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  engagement party speech from another influencer.
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  So if you're not familiar with Danielle Bernstein, she's the
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  founder of We Wore What and also a fashion influencer.
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  As I mentioned, she is a pretty polarizing figure and has
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  recently found herself in another controversy.
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  So TikTok users are calling out Danielle for allegedly stealing
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  a wedding speech from another influencer.
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  Danielle seemingly gave the speech at her own engagement
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  party around a week ago and people are saying it is almost
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  word for word. So at Be or Bay seem to bring
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  the story to light. So she made a TikTok saying she
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  believes that Danielle stole this speech from the creator at
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  Maya Labella Clark. And in this video where she's
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  talking about how she thinks that Danielle has stolen this
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  speech, she said she left a comment on a post by by Danielle
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  accusing her of this, and the comment was quickly deleted.
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  I left my first ever hate comment and it was towards
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  Daniel Bernstein though we were what girl?
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  It obviously got deleted within like minutes.
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  Her speech she gave at her engagement party is nearly
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  identical to a speech a girl on TikTok gave at her wedding.
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  The only reason I noticed is because I saw the first girls
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  video like the day. Prior, the comments underneath
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  this original video are very critical of Danielle.
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  Most could not comprehend why she would copy a speech for her
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  own engagement party, while others wondered whether the
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  whole speech was taken from ChatGPT.
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  The video has since spread to other platforms like Reddit,
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  with posts on our slash NYC influencer snark getting
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  hundreds, if not thousands of upvotes.
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  Now, part of the reason why this has gained a lot of traction is
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  because Danielle has faced accusations of stealing many
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  times throughout her career. Back in 2018, for example,
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  Danielle was called out by fashion industry watchdog Diet
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  Prada for the similarities between the Lulu DK and We Were
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  What Fine Jewelry Collection and pieces from other brands like
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  Foundry. The post read quote at We were
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  What did you miss the memo on social responsibility in 2018?
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  Because it seems like your jewelry line with Lulu DK
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  lifestyle for Nordstrom is cherry picked out of your
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  personal jewelry collection. Pieces from hard working
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  designers not only shared their work with you, but some even
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  invited you into their homes. Pretty cruddy way to show
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  support and tagged a few different brands that they felt
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  like her line copied from if you ask us.
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  And then a couple of years later, Danielle was also accused
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  of copying being designer Cecilia Benson in her Macy's
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  collection. Now, these are just some
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  examples, OK? But many people have taken this
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  to show that she has this pattern of behavior of copying.
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  And there are so many examples that have been floating around
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  for years of her allegedly copying ideas, copying designs,
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  copying concepts, and I guess now allegedly copying speeches.
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  OK, The next story that I have for you guys, this was a Spotify
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  comment that we got. Somebody asked us to cover the
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  Swift ologist and Adam McIntyre. And I actually had seen
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  something about this last week, but I genuinely thought the
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  video that I was watching was possibly AI and I didn't trust
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  it. And then I thought, OK, well,
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  this will come across my desk in another capacity if this is
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  true. So I just kind of moved on.
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  So then when we got the comment, I was like, oh, I guess that was
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  real. So let's look into it.
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  So there is some drama in the commentary community,
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  specifically between Zachary Horan, who is known as the
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  Swiftologist, and Adam McIntyre. This all goes back to the somber
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  drama that we actually did report on here.
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  But as a quick reminder, Somber, who is an up and coming singer,
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  got a lot of backlash after responding to criticism of his
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  show from a 25 year old woman and it kicked off this whole
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  discourse between 20 year olds and 25 year olds online.
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  So both Adam and the Swiftologist shared their take
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  on the situation. Adam was pretty firm on his
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  stance and was not favorable towards Somber.
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  He had a particular issue with how he talks to the young
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  audience at a show, noting that it is sexualizing the crowd, who
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  is, as we know and as I reported on, is apparently filled with
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  tweens and teens. Meanwhile, the Swift had a much
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  more favorable take toward Somber, and his title of his
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  video was actually Justice for Somber.
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  OK so Adam went on to react to the Swiftologist take on stream
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  and he felt that the swiftologist take was 1
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  misogynistic toward the woman who made the video about
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  Somber's concert and two, that he was leaning in toward the
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  Aegis discourse online and that he excused what many considered
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  over sexualized behavior because he was defending Somber.
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  Adam even speculated that it was paid PR because he could not
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  believe that he had this take. This video was posted on October
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  24th. Now, Adam has posted a follow up
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  video titled The Swiftologist is Threatening Me where he revealed
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  that the creator is threatening legal action.
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  In the stream, Adam went on to read the e-mail that he received
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  from the swiftologist. According to the e-mail, the
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  swiftologist allegedly asked Adam to take down his previous
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  video or certain parts of the video, claiming that it was
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  defamatory. He took particular issue with
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  the way that Adam was questioning whether the
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  swiftologist had been paid by Somber's PR team and manager.
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  The swiftologist also said he was dealing with reputational
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  harm and targeted harassment as a result of the video.
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  Adam notes that this was largely impossible because he had sent
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  this e-mail just over 24 hours after Adam's video had been
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  published. Adam was saying he was really
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  taken aback by the situation and didn't expect the Swiftologist
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  to react like this, especially because he is a commentary and
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  review creator himself. Adam also explained that he had
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  long been a fan of the Swiftologist content so this was
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  quite a shock. And then earlier today, Adam
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  posted another video about the situation titled Dear the
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  Swiftologist Leave Me Alone where he discussed the fallout
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  since the last video. He began by noting that many of
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  his followers started sharing the content from the
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  Swiftologist discord, which some of it was about Adam.
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  One of his followers told Adam that the swiftologist long had
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  quote one sided beef with him where the Swiftologist had
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  allegedly described Adam as a loser during the peak Colleen
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  Ballinger cancellation, which is really horrific.
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  If you know anything about Adam's relationship or former
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  relationship with Colleen Ballinger and you know
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  everything he went through and how he spoke out against her
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  during that time. If this is true, if this is
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  actually how Zach reacted to that, that is really horrible.
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  Also, I don't know why I keep saying this with ologist.
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  I'm going to start saying Zach. It's actually quite a mouthful.
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  So Adam went on to receive compilations from fans of Zach
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  talking about him and then Adam emailed the swiftologist to
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  verify whether these screenshots were true slash if he had any
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  commentary about it. Adam says he did not receive a
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  response before filming his video and had waited 24 hours.
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  He also alleged that Zac continues to post about him in
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  the discord but refuses to respond to his emails.
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  So Adam is insinuating that the reason why Zac emailed him in
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  the 1st place is because he's been waiting to come for Adam.
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  Adam saying he clearly had problems with him before this
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  whole situation and he was using this as his opportunity.
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  At the time of recording. Zac Jack has seemingly posted a
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  community post on his YouTube channel about it.
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  He wrote Hey everyone, I want to quickly address what's been
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  circulating. I won't be commenting on it
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  further right now because it's part of an ongoing legal process
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  that's already in motion. To be clear, this isn't about
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  someone making a commentary video about me.
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  That happens every day. You are all entitled to say
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  whatever you like about me. This is specifically addressing
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  a false claim that I was paid to promote an artist or push a
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  narrative. That's not true and it's
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  defamatory. He goes on to talk about how
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  integrity is important to him. And I did want to say this
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  actually is a pretty common narrative.
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  I remember once people on TikTok were accusing me of being paid
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  by Hailey Bieber because I defended her in some situation.
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  I can't even remember what it was it was like years ago.
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  But there does seem to be this kind of out of control belief
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  amongst people online commentary creators, podcasters, whatever
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  are being paid off often by celebrities to give them good
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  PR. And I'm sure that happens here
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  and there, but it was so laughable that at the time
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  people thought that Haley Bieber was paying infinite scroll.
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  And this was like years ago. This was well before we had, we
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  probably didn't even have 50,000 listens a month.
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  Like, I don't even know. We were like a speck of a
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  podcast, okay? And it's so wild when you see
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  these narratives. So I understand why he's like,
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  this is crazy. Like this is obviously not true.
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  But I also think if you're someone who watches commentary
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  content, you understand that a lot of what is being presented
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  is opinion as opposed to fact, especially the way that it's
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  framed, like the way that this was framed.
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  Like obviously Adam does not know if Zach is being paid off.
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  OK, so Adam took issue with the fact that Zach said he would be
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  handling this offline but won't even respond to his emails.
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  And at this point in time, it doesn't look like Adam is going
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  to back down when it comes to talking about this publicly.
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  So I guess we'll see what happens.
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  And it also seems largely like the Internet is on Adam's side,
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  at least at the time of recording.
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  OK, the next story that I have for you guys, I have a little
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  Charlie Ann C and the Welsh 5 friendship fallout update.
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  So back in May, I did a mini deep dive on the falling out
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  between Charlie Ann and the Welsh 5 five and that episode
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  did weirdly well. So I wanted to share this small
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  development that's been going on this week.
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  So in case you don't know the Welsh 5, they're this group of
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  friends from Wales who rose to fame on TikTok together,
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  becoming known mostly for their food content.
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  The original group included Charlie Ann Kane.
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  Ian, I'm so sorry if I've said that wrong.
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  I do have in my notes to pronounce it like Ryan but
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  without an R, but I don't even know if that's right because I'm
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  pretty sure that's how I pronounced it in the entire
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  former episode that I'm referring to.
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  And I got absolutely annihilated because I said it wrong, like
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  the whole time. So I don't know.
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  I'm very sorry. And I watched their content.
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  I don't know Leah and Corey. For context, Leah and Corey are
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  in a relationship. So it was confirmed back in May
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  that there was some major drama within the crew and that Charlie
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  Ann was taking a step back from these friendships.
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  This was particularly sad given that Charlie was childhood
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  friends with Corey and they were super close with each other's
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  families. And as a result, Corey, Charlie,
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  and Leah became this like threesome that we all followed
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  on TikTok and they were so so close at the time.
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  The group confirmed through shady TikTok comments that
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  Charlie stopped being friends with the group because of her
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  new girlfriend Emily. So this girlfriend seemingly put
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  a wedge between Charlie and the group.
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  Charlie made a response video at the time saying this is not
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  true. And sometimes you just basically
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  need like distance from certain friendships.
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  And she basically just said, like, my girlfriend's not the
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  problem. Anyway, So this week, the drama
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  was dredged back up when Corey and Leah had their baby and
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  announced that it was named Adventure.
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  And then right after Charlie again, their former best friend
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  posted a vlog with her girlfriend saying that they're
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  going on an adventure. And in the caption, she still
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  like going on an adventure like with my baby.
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  So fans were like, Oh my God, this has to be a dig at Corey
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  and Leah obviously having a baby, having their first baby is
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  like the biggest milestone in their lives.
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  So people were connecting those two and thinking that it was
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  Charlie and her girlfriend being shady about their baby and the
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  baby's name. They should have just moved on,
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  OK? But they didn't.
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  So Emily went on to stitch creators who were talking about
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  this. And this made the situation
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  worse because she was pretty savage.
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  And you could hear Charlie in the background of some of these
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  stitches. And she was also like
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  participating in being a bit savage towards them.
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  They made several response videos and it's.
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  Very much like. You're throwing shade.
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  Genuinely, this is just barbaric.
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  Imagine you are a wannabe content creator.
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  Like you want to do this for your job.
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  You are really trying to make it somewhere.
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  You are really clutching at straws to make your content go
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  somewhere. And then you make this video in
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  hopes, in hopes that it will get you somewhere.
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  But where has it gotten you? Where is it going to get you so
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  sinister? It's so.
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  Sinister and I get it, OK, like we all need to touch grass.
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  I do think that it was a reach from TikTok users and fans to be
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  like, Oh my God, they're shading Corey and Leah and the baby.
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  I do believe it is a bit of a reach, OK, But yeah,
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  unfortunately they went a little too far in the responses.
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  I think they've taken it overboard and it feels like now
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  it's an overcorrection and people are like, OK, this
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  obviously must have been then about the baby because you have
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  just harped on this so much. I also think the other option
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  here is that they are trying to repair their friendship, like
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  Charlie might be trying to repair her friendship with Corey
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  and Leah. And then to have the whole
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  Internet trying to continually like dredge up this wedge
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  between them and talk about them at such a sensitive time when
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  they've had their first baby. Possibly that is also the
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  motivation behind her continually trying to defend
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  that this is not what happened and this is not what she meant.
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  Because it would be very frustrating.
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  Like, I do understand that side of it.
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  And like I said, I do think it's a reach and I think we all need
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  to touch grass. But I think you cannot respond
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  like this. This is when things get even
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  worse. And I'm talking about it now.
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  And I would not have been talking about this if they did
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  not make all of these response videos.
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  OK. The last thing that I very
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  briefly wanted to touch on. This is not like a real story,
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  but I'm sure you guys have seen the viral conversation around
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  the row sample sale. Like Mary Kate and Ashley's
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  clothing line, very expensive luxurious clothing line.
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  They had a sample sale and people were vlogging, lining up
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  for like hours and hours to get up to 75% off the row.
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  And now everyone's doing their halls.
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  And what is going viral is discussion around the halls and
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  how people are like, I can't believe that even up to 75% off
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  people have spent still spent like 10s of thousands of dollars
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  on like the most boring basic clothing.
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  But I wanted to share my experience, OK, because I have
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  actually bought a pair of pants from the row.
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  I did not buy them full price. I didn't buy them directly from
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  the seller, but I have a pair of pants from the Row.
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  They were very expensive. And I was like, these are going
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  to be my work pants. Like these are going to be my
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  like very nice tailored perfect slacks that I can wear to good
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  meetings and they will last me so long.
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  And I've never had pants that are worse quality in my life and
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  it shocks me. And I don't know if any of you
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  guys have ever tried the row or bought the row but if you have
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  please let me know because I was so shocked by the quality of
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  these pants. They look good from like far
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  away and they would look good in pictures, but when you're
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  actually wearing them, you realize how many issues they
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  have. And I would love to hear other
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  people's experience with the Row because while I've been watching
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  all of these videos of people criticizing the halls and
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  talking about how like the Row is overpriced and like they
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  don't get the hype, I'm like, yes, as somebody who owns pants
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  from the Row, yes, I subscribe to that.
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  I get it. All right, guys, Well, that's it
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