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A Coffee with Ryan Jespersen, Host of Real Talk! · Coffee In The Park with Jennifer and Cam

0:01
Speaker: Hi, I'm Ryan Jespersen and you're listening to Coffee In The Park with Jennifer and Cam.
0:06
Speaker: So, Blue Jays lost last night, a little disappointed about that.
0:21
Speaker: I can't believe it.
0:22
Speaker: They were winning, but then they lost.
0:24
Speaker: Can you believe that?
0:25
Speaker: I had to stop watching.
0:26
Speaker: I had to stop watching.
0:28
Speaker: I think I went and got a snack and never came back.
0:30
Speaker: My blood pressure was getting a little too high.
0:31
Speaker: I know, so for anybody who's listening to us, because there's people that listen to us all around the world, we're talking about the Toronto Blue Jays, who are in playoff baseball.
0:39
Speaker: Yes.
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Speaker: And doing good against the New York Yankees.
0:44
Speaker: The Yankees.
0:45
Speaker: And anyway, they lost last night, but they'll win tonight, so that's pretty cool, I think.
0:49
Speaker: It is.
0:50
Speaker: Jennifer, fall has arrived.
0:51
Speaker: I'm wearing short sleeves.
0:54
Speaker: I should be wearing long sleeves.
0:55
Speaker: That's all I've got to say about that.
0:57
Speaker: But hey, everybody, thanks for listening to another edition of Coffee In The Park with Jennifer and Cam.
1:02
Speaker: And we are coming to you live from the Wall Coffee Roasters in the heart of beautiful downtown Acheson.
1:09
Speaker: That's right.
1:09
Speaker: So if you hear some noises in the background, coffee whirring, people screaming, well, not people, not people.
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Speaker: Usually I say kids screaming. Usually kids screaming.
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Speaker: Yeah, not people.
1:17
Speaker: No, the coffee is good.
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Speaker: They're not screaming.
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Speaker: But it's because we do this live in the coffee shop.
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Speaker: But it's a little quiet today.
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Speaker: Well, it was really busy in here.
1:25
Speaker: It was busy, but it's a little quiet right now.
1:26
Speaker: But anyway, that's where we are.
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Speaker: So hey, if you've never been to the Wall Coffee Shop, you need to come by.
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Speaker: And they got some specials going on.
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Speaker: What are their specials?
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Speaker: Apple something.
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Speaker: Apple Spice Latte.
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Speaker: Apple Spice Latte.
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Speaker: And the Maple London Fog.
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Speaker: Maple London Fog.
1:39
Speaker: I've tried both.
1:40
Speaker: They're worth trying.
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Speaker: So hey, come on by and grab an Apple Spice Latte or a Maple London Fog and you'll enjoy it.
1:45
Speaker: And we need to tell you that this episode of Coffee In The Park with Jennifer and Cam is brought to you by?
1:51
Speaker: Our friends at Wing Snob.
1:53
Speaker: That's right.
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Speaker: And home of fresh, never frozen wings from traditional to boneless.
2:00
Speaker: They're amazing.
2:01
Speaker: What's your favorite flavor, Cam?
2:02
Speaker: My favorite flavor is Parmesan.
2:05
Speaker: Parmesan.
2:06
Speaker: Yeah, Parmesan.
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Speaker: And yours?
2:07
Speaker: It is the Snobby Q.
2:09
Speaker: Snobby Q.
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Speaker: So, hey, listen, and tonight would be a great night if you need some wings or want some wings or craving some wings.
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Speaker: They have 16 different flavors and four rubs.
2:18
Speaker: And if you can't decide, you get 50-50.
2:21
Speaker: Well, Cam, some of these, some of those.
2:23
Speaker: It's opening night of the Oilers tonight. That's right! So why not order on Skip The Dishes?
2:27
Speaker: I think they got a special thing on there.
2:29
Speaker: They do.
2:29
Speaker: They have an Oilers pack.
2:30
Speaker: On their website, you'll need to check it out.
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Speaker: 10 locations in the city of Edmonton and some of the best wings you'll ever have.
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Speaker: Check them out at www.wingsnob.ca.
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Speaker: Amazing wings.
2:42
Speaker: Yes, and Cam, we also want to give a shout out to our friends over at Mprint, Sign and Print Solutions right here in Acheson.
2:48
Speaker: That's right.
2:49
Speaker: They do a lot of printing for us at Coffee In The Park with Jennifer and Cam.
2:52
Speaker: And they do business cards, brochures, and they do wide format.
2:57
Speaker: Wide format.
2:58
Speaker: Cam, did you know they wrapped a helicopter?
3:00
Speaker: I didn't know that.
3:01
Speaker: Did they really?
3:02
Speaker: A whole helicopter?
3:03
Speaker: Motorhomes, vehicles, whatever you need.
3:07
Speaker: Well, okay, that's pretty cool.
3:09
Speaker: And so you'll find them on www.mprint.ca, some of the best printers you'll ever find.
3:14
Speaker: And we mean that honestly.
3:15
Speaker: They really are amazing.
3:17
Speaker: So you'll want to check them out.
3:18
Speaker: And they are, like we said, the preferred printer of Coffee In The Park with Jennifer and Cam.
3:24
Speaker: So check them out for all your printing needs.
3:27
Speaker: That's right.
3:28
Speaker: Awesome.
3:29
Speaker: I'm excited about our guest.
3:30
Speaker: Cam, are you ready to get into this?
3:31
Speaker: No, I'm excited about it.
3:32
Speaker: I'm just going to say it right off the top because he's like a professional.
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Speaker: Like we're amateurs.
3:37
Speaker: Like you and me, we're like, let's be honest.
3:39
Speaker: Cam, he's a podcast professional.
3:40
Speaker: He's a podcast professional.
3:41
Speaker: Listen, this is the first time we've had a podcast professional.
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Speaker: We've never had a professional podcast professional.
3:46
Speaker: Can you say that three times in a row?
3:47
Speaker: No.
3:48
Speaker: No, just like unique New York.
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Speaker: Can you say that ten times in a row?
3:51
Speaker: We're not going to retry that.
3:51
Speaker: I asked you the other day.
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Speaker: Anyway, we're getting off.
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Speaker: But this is so exciting because I want to learn today.
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Speaker: And so this is going to be really great.
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Speaker: So, why don't you introduce him?
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Speaker: Our guest today is none other than Ryan Jespersen.
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Speaker: Welcome, Ryan.
4:06
Speaker: Well, thank you.
4:06
Speaker: And I have a bone to pick with each of you.
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Speaker: Here we go.
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Speaker: I walk into this stunning location, this beautiful coffee shop, and neither of you think to mention to me that I could get an apple spiced latte or a maple London fog.
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Speaker: This Americano is fabulous.
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Speaker: And then, because I arrive on an empty stomach, then you go on to start talking about Wing Snob.
4:32
Speaker: Oh, man.
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Speaker: And I'm just sitting here, listening to this incredibly effective advertising that you're doing on your podcast, while my stomach grumbles, and I hope that the mic didn't pick it up.
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Speaker: Well, listen, we'll send you home with apple spiced latte and maple, what's the other one? The maple London fog The last thing the world needs is an overcaffeinated me.
4:53
Speaker: That's right.
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Speaker: And we'll give Mike Chadi a call.
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Speaker: And we'll deliver some wings.
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Speaker: And then you can send them over in that helicopter that was just wrapped.
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Speaker: Ryan's coming by.
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Speaker: How's that?
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Speaker: Get him the chopper, get him some wings.
5:05
Speaker: Look at you high rollers here at Coffee In The Park with Jennifer and Cam.
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Speaker: I'll tell you, it's, man, unbelievable.
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Speaker: Anyways, sorry about that.
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Speaker: But next time, we'll...
5:14
Speaker: You know what?
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Speaker: It gives you a reason to come back to The Wall Coffee Roasters.
5:17
Speaker: Well, I'm not going to need to be convinced to come back to The Wall Coffee Roasters.
5:20
Speaker: This place is beautiful.
5:21
Speaker: Oh, yeah.
5:22
Speaker: Michael is amazing.
5:23
Speaker: Everybody who works here is amazing.
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Speaker: It's a great place.
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Speaker: Well, thank you for joining us today.
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Speaker: For those who don't know, Ryan is the host of Real Talk.
5:32
Speaker: It's a podcast about news, politics, pop culture.
5:36
Speaker: Yeah, that's right.
5:38
Speaker: Yeah, we call it a...
5:38
Speaker: You know, people have been, I think, trying to pin us down or figure out exactly what we are.
5:43
Speaker: Right.
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Speaker: And so people say, well, are you a podcast or are you a YouTube show?
5:47
Speaker: What are you?
5:47
Speaker: And so we say that we are a modern talk show.
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Speaker: Modern.
5:50
Speaker: I like that.
5:51
Speaker: I like it.
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Speaker: Modern.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: 30 Mountain Time, and people can watch that on our YouTube channel.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Every weekday.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Or they can catch us on seven different social media platforms.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So we stream live.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But you know, if you're working, you can watch us on LinkedIn, you can watch us on TikTok.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And then our heavy lifter, our prize thoroughbred is our podcast, which is where people catch us most frequently.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And every day.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Well, I mean, you know, I mean, unless I'm taking days off, I work for myself now. And we'll get into that! Ryan, we do this once a week and it's a lot of work.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It's heavy lifting, but I feel like- Do you have staff?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We do have staff.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We have a team.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We're a professional outfit.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I want a team.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We're coming up on our fifth birthday.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Are you really?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: November 23rd will be five years.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: How do you get a team in podcast?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Well, you know what?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Again, don't get ahead of yourself because we're going to talk about that.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah, we are.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So let's, the story behind the story.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Nice hook.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Keep people in, later in the episode.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: This is her job.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Her job is to keep Cam.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Otherwise, no offense Cam, but I've already figured that out.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: See?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: He's a professional.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'm telling you.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'm telling you right now.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: He's a professional.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Anyway.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Let's take it back to the beginning.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So Ryan, where did you grow up?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Where were you born?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'm a proud Calgary kid.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was born and raised in Calgary, Alberta, in the beautiful neighborhoods of Woodlands, Parkland, and Mackenzie Lakes.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So people will know that I emigrated from Calgary's southwest to the southeast, all the way up until I graduated high school.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I went to college for a year in England.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I went to university for four years in Langley, BC, and then I came back to Calgary for two years at SAIT.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And then I started my career in Calgary then to Red Deer and then here in Edmonton where I've been for 20 years.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Langley, Trinity Western.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Is that where you went?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's right.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'm a graduate of their communications department.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I have a BA in communications and I was editor in chief of their student newspaper, The Mars Hill out there, which is really kind of what lit my fire, to be honest.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Okay, I lived in Langley for four years.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That city has exploded.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I know.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I lived there a long time ago.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I think Langley, I don't know if you've been back recently.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I don't know if you'd recognize it.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I don't think I would.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Langley is, I mean, it's always been a, let's say a bedroom community in Vancouver, but it's huge in its own right.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It was great while I lived there.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It was really awesome and I enjoyed every minute.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Then we moved to California, but yeah, it was really cool.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It was good.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Amazing.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That was a nice little humble brag that he moved to California.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Well, you know, but he moved back.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I moved back.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Long story.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Or another day.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Another day.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's right.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So Ryan, what did your parents do growing up?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: What was your background in Calgary?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: My dad was a physician, a family physician for 40 years.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Retired about seven years ago, in fact.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Retired a little bit early due to a Parkinson's diagnosis, but my dad just proudly served his patients for a long time and has a real passion for health care and for people.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: My mom is a teacher by trade.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Oh, okay.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But my mom is remarkable.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: They're both great.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: My mom actually retired from teaching, stepped away to be a mom, but never lost her passion for education.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so as I was a kid coming up, she chaired the curriculum committee at our school and was always involved.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Her dad, my grandpa, was chair of the Calgary Catholic School for a number of years.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And her two sisters are teachers as well.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So I grew up in a house that greatly prioritized health care and education, which I think set me up even before I realized it.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was going to say, that's a...
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Man oh man, you can't ask for any better than that for what you do now.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I mean, that's fantastic.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah, I feel like I've seen it.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'm immersed in politics, eyeballs deep now, but I've definitely seen firsthand what public health professionals do.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: My dad used to pick me up from school when my mom wasn't able to, four kids in the family, so we were always busy.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And my dad would pick me up and oftentimes take me on his rounds.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So he would leave seeing his patients at the office.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: He'd come pick me up at school, and then he'd take me to the hospital.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And then he'd leave me at the nurses station while he went and saw his patients.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so I got to see what it was like for nurses firsthand as well.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so I had that lived experience even through a child's eyes of understanding what they go through and what they give.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I think that's fascinating.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Did you like it?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Did you like hanging out there?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Well, I mean, the nurses were always very gracious to me.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I don't know if they loved that I was there all the time.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I don't know if they loved it or not.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Here watch my son.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But I think the trade-off would have been that I probably shouldn't be in the room while my dad was talking to his patients.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Oh, but they're always very gracious.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And you observe as a child.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And then more so, I think, in my dad's practice, I started young, a family business.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I think that this is the case.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I think it set me up to be an entrepreneur as well, to be honest with you.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: As soon as I was old enough to work and interested enough in having a little bit of income, I never really had an allowance.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: More so I was afforded opportunities to work.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so I started by cleaning my dad's office.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So I'd be in there two or three times a week, vacuuming and wiping surfaces. First jobs.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was always trained to stay away from the biohazardous medical waste.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That was not my job.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Don't play with the needles.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So my parents gave me an opportunity to put a few bucks in my pocket and also understand the value of earning a living.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And then I graduated, I guess, from that into doing some billing and bookkeeping for the practice.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So I'd come in after hours and file all the charts away.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: This is when it was still on paper.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'm pretty good with a staple remover and I'm pretty good in stacking up papers and files.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I can alphabetize charts like nobody else you've ever met.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's an important job.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You can't mess that up.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You can't mix charts or anything.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You can't.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That could cause you to lose.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I mean, this is just...
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And then I helped in a minor role.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But as charts were moving to digital and electronic, which would have been late 90s, I helped with that, which was a huge transition, about 7,000 patient charts that had to be scanned and moved over.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And a big job that I was up for, but it meant that I was in one of the back rooms working while the practice was open.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so I saw it in real life, something that my dad was really proud of, which was affluent patients and patients that were down on their luck.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: People that were living with mental illness, people living with disabilities.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: This is the real life, and I had a real clear understanding, not just of what medical practitioners do, but also the population that they serve.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Who they serve, and what they do.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I also did my dad's billings, which means I would submit the billings to Alberta Health Services.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And that gave me, I was instructed very early on, don't ask me any questions about what the billings looked like or how much they were making.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But I learned very quickly, and I was oftentimes shocked.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And obviously I'm biased, everybody's biased, but I was shocked at, quite frankly, and this is my opinion to this day, at how very little these small business owners, we call family doctors, are actually making at the end of the day when it comes to their overhead and the services they provide.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Everybody forgets the overhead.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I remember hearing a patient, and I understand that money's tight for people, but a patient was taking big issue with the fact that my dad charged his patients $20 for a doctor's note.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I remember seeing my dad after hours when the practice's doors were locked, and when we were waiting for him at home or dinner was ready, there was my dad writing the doctor's notes, doing the paperwork, and wondering why people thought that he should work for free, especially when he was paying his nurses.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: He was paying his office manager, who was my mom.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You know, so this was a real family business.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And that stuff from my earliest awareness shaped my opinions to this day on what people should be worth and what healthcare and education is worth to a society and how we gauge that return on investment.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I think when you see stuff like that firsthand, you have a whole new appreciation.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Well, you're walking miles in people's shoes.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Exactly, yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And it's easy for us to be armchair quarterbacks and say, well, a doctor makes this or a doctor, but we don't know.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Well, because everybody knows.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And you know, you hear things about like, this didn't take long for us to get into the real thing.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: No, I know.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And we'll get away from this in a second.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We'll do a Wing Snob thing for you.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We're really sinking in our teeth.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: The guy who was choking on the chicken bone.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Nobody chokes on a Wing Snob chicken bone.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: No, no, no.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Nobody does that.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But it was true.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I'm really grateful for my upbringing because it allowed me, I think, a little bit more credibility than maybe some media commentators that really have no real world experience in some of the things that they have strong opinions on.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So you finished high school.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Barely.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Nice segue, eh?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You barely, barely.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Barely.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I like that.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Barely.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You went to?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I went to the same high school as Pierre Poilievre.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Did you really?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I did.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Did you know him?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I didn't know him.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: My brother knew of him.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: My brother is two years younger.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Okay.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's another podcast.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We can talk about the high school Pierre Poilievre.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Okay.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But I do have a question.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So you have...
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Jeff Poilievre in high school, by the way.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: There's a little tidbit for your listeners.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Okay.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Oh boy.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I want to go there.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Go there.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I didn't know him, so I don't have a lot to say about it, but yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Is it Jeff Pierre or Pierre Jeff?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'm not sure.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I don't know.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Oh, that's it.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'm asking him.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: The day he's on the podcast.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah, in the yearbook it's Jeff.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah, that's right.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Okay.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So with, you know, you were really immersed and you saw what your parents did.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Did you ever have an inkling or a desire to go down the road your parents went down, either education or physician?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Not education, and that's no slight.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I think teachers are answering a calling.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I think that, you know, and especially, I mean, this will timestamp this episode a little bit.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But as we see 51,000 teachers striking, 740,000 students out of classrooms, all of Alberta right now is at a reckoning moment of how we value teachers and what that needs to look like while balancing fiscal responsibilities.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But I just didn't, if I'm being honest with you, feel called to be a teacher.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was very intrigued by a career in health services.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was aware at an early age that I was not going to have the marks to get into medical school, if I'm being honest.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Because I like how you said that.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Health services.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: A doctor, right?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was really good at cleaning offices.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: The orderly job is available if you need it.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But I really liked the idea of helping people, and I admired my dad, and I saw how my dad would connect with patients.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I always felt as a young kid like I was the son of a celebrity.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Because we'd be out at restaurants in the front foyer after church services, and people would come up to my dad.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: People would recognize my dad in public.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I always just was so proud of him for that.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'm getting a little verklempt talking about it right now.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But yeah, at the end of the day, I actually, when I started university, my first semester was sciences, and I hadn't ruled out the idea.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was actually intrigued by a career in chiropractics.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Which is interesting.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It is.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You have your followers and listeners that know there's not always been alignment in perspective.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: No pun intended.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That was actually a great chiropractor joke.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Well done.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I love that.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Well done joke there.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But there's not, they've not always, and I'm not trying to start fights where there's none.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Right.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But chiropractors and family physicians don't always see eye to eye, but my uncle is a chiropractor and has a remarkable career, Shiloh Chiropractic in Stony Plain, Alberta.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Oh, okay.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I always admired him, still do.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Clark Mills is his name.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so I always kind of thought, gosh, I'd like to be a chiropractor.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But I'll tell you, actually, at the end of the day, I realized very quickly first semester in university, it was not for me.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Sciences were not for you.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was in the lab.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I was already struggling to keep up.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And this was semester one of year one.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yes.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah, it's a long road all the way.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But I'll tell you two things real quick.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Number one, growing up in Calgary, I was 10 years old when the 88 Olympics were in Calgary, and we were in a USSR versus Sweden hockey game.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And on the concourse of that game, my dad nudges me as we're in line for popcorn.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: He says, do you know who that is?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I said, I don't know.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: He says, that's Peter Jennings.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: He says, Peter Jennings is a Canadian that anchors ABC World News tonight.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And my dad used me as a pawn to talk to Peter Jennings.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Kids work every time, Ryan.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So Peter Jennings was there with his son, and we started chatting in the line.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And in my mind, it was 30 minutes, it was probably four, but we had a chance to talk to Peter Jennings.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Nobody had camera phones, nobody had no camera phones invented.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So I never had a photo, but from that day, from 10 years on, I would tune in from time to time to ABC World News, or when I would see his picture, is that the life changing epiphany of I met him?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And that was my earliest, at 10 years old, my earliest introduction to the art of storytelling.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I paid attention, I mourned when Peter Jennings died of lung cancer.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I mourned the loss.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That was when it was first on my radar, if I rewind it all the way back.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Second story that fits in, on a dare as a freshman, as a first year student, I was talking big, talking smack to my fellow residents.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I lived in residence, I had to move from Calgary to Langley, and the Student Association elections were underway.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I opened my big mouth, not the first time, not the last.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I bet one of my roommates that I could run and win that student election to be freshman class president.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And he said, well, I would love to be your campaign manager.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And the next thing you know, the next thing you know, we were making posters, making leaflets.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And long story short, I won that election and earned a spot on student government at Trinity Western University, much to my chagrin actually, because I realized now I actually have to take it seriously and deliver.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But for some reason, I'm like a lot of politicians, I thought, well, I gotta keep my campaign promises.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so I built a team and I didn't like, I didn't appreciate how the student newspaper was covering our council proceedings and our council decisions.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I wrote a letter to the editor of the student newspaper.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: He subsequently, and to this day, as a matter of fact, he's a lawyer now.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: He reached out to me and he offered me a job as a news reporter, as a journalist with the paper.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Now this is, if you think about it, a huge conflict of interest.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You can't have an elected official being a journalist.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But I did.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But what elected official wouldn't want that today?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was the version of that.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But I decided quickly.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I served my term.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I completed the year.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We had some great events.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was grateful for it.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But that really planted the seed for me.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So year two of university, I was the news editor.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Year three, I was the editor in chief.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So Peter Jennings.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Peter Jennings.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Milestone moment.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Student government.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Student government.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Milestone moment.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And then that led to my first job at the Calgary Herald.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Really?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah, that was my first job.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So what year did you work at the Calgary Herald then?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I worked at the Calgary Herald in 1999.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I worked there right up until the strike.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And what did you do?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was an editorial assistant and a contributing writer.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So it was interesting.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was outside of the Union.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It was an entry-level job.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was doing like layout.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You know, I was responsible.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I always thought I had the hot inside scoop because I was responsible for the layout, placing where the Calgary police would announce that the photo radar locations would be the next day.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so I could call all my buddies.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was going to say your friends must have loved you.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I could say, take it easy on the Deerfoot.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Take it easy on Memorial Drive.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Oh, I love it.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And then ultimately when that strike went down, it was the largest strike in Canadian media history.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was a non-union job and I wasn't striking, obviously.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I wasn't going to cross a picket line, especially kicking off my career, but not ever.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so unfortunately I left.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And that's why, you know, I went back to SAIT after that.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was doing some other things.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I traveled South America.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was bartending.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But I knew that I wanted to get back into the game.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so I went back to SAIT.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was trying to get a job in broadcasting with the BA in communications, having done zero career investigation along the way.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You'll find that my story involves a lot of bouncing around.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was going to say, just trying it out.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: See what works, what doesn't work, just go after it.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You know that Price Is Right game Plinko?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah, that's right.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: My career has been a big game of Plinko.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But that's where it all began.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Okay, so you went to SAIT, got a BA in Broadcasting.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It was called at the time, I don't know what it is now, but it was CTSR, which was Cinema, Television, Stage, and Radio.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So I got the diploma in Broadcast News.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And you graduated and went to?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Graduated.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And then after a really in earnest job search, it was tough.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I sent out 70, and I know because I was paying for the printing, and I was sending out at that time VHS tapes of my demo.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'm that old school.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So I think it was probably my 70th or 71st application I sent out.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was offered a job at Big 105 and 106.7 The Drive in Red Deer, Patterson Broadcasting into the exact very same first job that Ron McLean had.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Come on.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: When he was at Big 105 in Red Deer.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Then that's where I started.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Then I opened the City TV Bureau in Red Deer for City TV Edmonton, and then I came up from there.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Wow.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Did you feel filling in for or coming after Ron McLean?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: This is a good omen?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Well, You were going to be the next?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I knew.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I mean, I'll give you the serious answer is that I was a mature student going back to SAIT, and I graduated SAIT in 04.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'm a 77 born, so I was like 26, 27 when I graduated, which is Panic City if you're mid to late 20s, and you don't have a career kicked off yet.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so what I knew as I moved to Red Deer to make in 2004, $19,000 a year that I was going to have to move quick.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So I was going to have to make an impression.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so that's what I set off to do.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So kids wanting to go into radio, it's not like, I have a real, we get in touch, we're contacted by young people all the time.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I bet.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And they want to pick our brains, they want to sit in on a recording of Real Talk.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: They want to ask me, they're doing the career investigation.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I should have done if I had have a brain.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Right.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And to be candid with you, I have mixed feelings because number one, storytellers and journalism is so important.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And we need the best of the best.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And at the same time, it's a really tough industry.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah, absolutely.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I almost don't wish it on the brightest young talent.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I hope it never becomes, and I feel it has a little bit, becoming a bit of a dying art.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I don't like that.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: What I like is that I can show these young people right now that what we're doing, which is the modern talk show, is doable, it's profitable, and it's important.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah, it is important.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I don't think we should ever lose that.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We need that in our society.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Okay, so you were there in Red Deer, you quit there, you went to...
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Well, so I got a job, so I was working in radio, and I mean, I say this with a smile on my face, I don't blame them at the time because they had tough budgets, but this is how pathetic it was.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So I'm making $19,000 a year, so I think my paychecks were like $740.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Either my rent was $690 and my paycheck was $740, or my paycheck was $740.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Either way, it was tight.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It was tight.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And by the way, at the time, I still had not given up my flame season tickets.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So explain that.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Those were on the credit card.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Those were on the credit card.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And of course, we'll have to talk about how I went from a flame season ticket holder to the game host.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's right.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's maybe another story.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But I knew that I was bleeding money and I needed to move fast.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I remember times were so tight that I had approached my boss, and she was absolutely wonderful.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But I approached her and I asked for a $100 a month raise, and they said no.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: What?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And at that time, I thought, well, my time here is done.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And at the same time, CityTV Edmonton was opening their Red Deer Bureau.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Okay.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I'm okay to tell you now, the first time I'm publicly admitting, that I called in sick to my radio job, and I drove up to Edmonton.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You heard it here, folks.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I got in touch with the station GM.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: His name was Chris Duncan.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: At the time, at CityTV Edmonton, and I said, I'd like to apply for this Edmonton Bureau, or this Red Deer Bureau chief.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And he said, well, you can send in your resume here.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I said, no.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I said, I'm driving it up.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I said, I'd like to meet you in person.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I walked into his office that day, and I sat down, and he said, well, let's take a look at your demo.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I said, please, let's not, because it was terrible, because all I had was from what I had done at SAIT.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I wasn't on TV when I was at the radio station, but I was applying for a TV job.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I said, I'll tell you what, I said, why don't we not look at my demo?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I said, but I'll tell you something, Chris.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I can't believe I said this to this day.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I said, you can tell.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I said, I will work harder for you than anybody in your newsroom right now.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And you can tell them I said that.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Wow.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I drove back to Red Deer Park, Edmonton with butterflies in my stomach.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And he called me when I was about 45 minutes into the drive, and he offered me the job.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And he said, now I apologize, but we can only offer you $29,000 to start.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I thought internally, that sounds like a 50% pay raise to me.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: No kidding.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Oh, I thought I'm rich.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah, outside you're playing it cool.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'm playing cool.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I said, well, I'll take it under advisement.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: No, I said I accept.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'll talk to my manager, my agent.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I said I accept.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: He said, when can you start?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I said, I'm driving straight to the station to hand in my resignation.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I said, give me two weeks.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And that's how it advanced from there.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And now you were on TV.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So I was on TV.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: From radio to TV.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Well, it was funny.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I mean, if we have time for story time, the funniest part about this is, this is a fledgling operation.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So they were hiring me not just to staff the Red Deer Bureau, for people that may not know.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So I'm filing stories to Edmonton for a Central and Northern Alberta audience.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So my job was to monitor the news in Central Alberta.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Not just Red Deer.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I mean, I was out in Eckville talking to Melissa Hollingsworth, who is the Canada's Olympic darling in Luge.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I was telling all these interesting stories on the price of canola and all kinds of cool stuff.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Canola.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Canola's up.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But it was also my job to find an appropriate office and to negotiate, at entry level terms, to negotiate the lease and then get the TV's installed and all this kind of stuff.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And about three weeks into it, I get a call from my assignment editor, another wonderful guy who really impacted my career named Randy McDonald, a real blunt to the point kind of a guy, right?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And he says, hey, Ryan, as soon as I answer the phone, he says, I've been trying to send you a fax for three hours and it keeps bouncing back.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: He goes, what the hell is the problem?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I go, Randy, I don't have a fax machine.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: What are you saying?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You're taking his fax.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Some guys get all these faxes.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so it was literally, I mean, for people that understand these big ENG cameras, these 40 pound cameras, I was pulling tape.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was grabbing my clips for the evening news by pressing fast forward and rewind on the camera, looking through the viewfinder.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We had very limited equipment, but I'll tell you what, I was so hungry.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I had my PHD, right?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: This is poor, hungry and driven.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was poor, hungry and driven, and I was motivated to make an impression on them.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I was there for 10 months until I got tapped on the shoulder and called up to Edmonton.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Wow, that's fantastic.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I love the story.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That is a great story.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It's a great story.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I hope that young people, regardless of the career that they're pursuing, recognize that you have to show that out of the gates.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Everybody talks about it.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'm a Gen X, I know there's Millennials, there's Gen Z and whatever's coming after them.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But I know that people talk about a lot of the kids these days have this sense of entitlement, whatever.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'm not sure I buy into that.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I see a lot of motivated young people.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But I will say this, that there is no substitute for hard work.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And employers are always going to be looking for the young person that's eager to make an impression in their workplace.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Sell yourself, but then live up to it.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But sell yourself.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You better deliver.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You'll be out as soon as you're in.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: They'll sniff you out quickly if you're not delivering.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's just great.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Okay, wait, because I don't know if this happened in Red Deer or if this is when you were in Edmonton, but you have to tell me the story about meeting your wonderful wife, Carrie.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Ah, yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So this happened in Red Deer.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: This was on my first shift.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So we were at the TV station.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: First shift at the radio station?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: No, the radio station.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: My very first shift.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And thank goodness I wore decent clothes and had a haircut, right?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so my wife Kari, Kari Skelton, she's a well-known content creator.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You can find her on Instagram.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: She was a hard-nosed, cut-throat news reporter at the time.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: She's got news chops even though she doesn't.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's not her jam these days, but she was an established professional and a reporter at the competing radio station in Red Deer.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So she was at Z99 in KG country.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And that's an institution in Red Deer.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so I remember I was assigned to, I think it was a school board meeting or something like that.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And then I was doubly assigned to go, the Minister of Municipal Affairs at that time, the Honorable Rob Renner, was in Red Deer at the Black Night Inn, holding a media availability in the lobby of the hotel.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So I go to my first assignment, whatever it was, and then I travel.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I couldn't believe I was driving a news station vehicle.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I mean, the luxuries that I had at the time, a Nissan Xterra, I couldn't believe it.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I pull up to the Black Night Inn, butterflies, because I'm walking in, and this was where I see the media scrum, and this is where I realized, this is my soft introduction to Red Deer's media scene, which at the time, 2004, this would have been actually, yeah, 2004, right around, it was healthy and vibrant and actually incredibly competitive.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And they had RDTV at the TV station, they had the Red Deer Advocate, they had the Red Deer Express newspaper, they had all these radio stations, they had the CBC, so I mean, it was jammed.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Big deal.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And a cabinet minister down there talking, and so I walk in, and I can see everyone kind of looking over, like who's this guy?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: By the way, strolling in like 10 minutes late.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But I was on another assignment, it's like, Kari loves the story, because she goes, he's late for absolutely everything, including his very first assignment.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But I know Peter Jennings, so it's okay.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You may have heard of him, right?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah, that's right.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So I walk in, and the scrum's already under way, and keep in mind also, backstory, I'd worked at the Calgary Herald already.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Right.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I've always had a bit of a self-confidence, you might say.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so I walk in, and the minute I walk up, boom, I ask a question.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I saw her make eyes with me, like who does this guy think he is?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I love it, that's great.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It kickstarted what's been an incredible, I mean now obviously, partnership.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We have two kids together, but she loves telling that story.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We had to keep, and the relationship didn't blossom right away.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah, did you ask her out, or did she ask you out?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Well, she invited me out to sort of as part of Red Deer's media social scene.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Right, right.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: She was dating someone at the time, and I was fresh out of a bad relationship.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Right, right.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And, no offense.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And, you know who you are.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: She's in California too, by the way.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And anyway, so that wasn't on either of our radar.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was obviously attracted to her, but that just wasn't in the cards at the time.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And then, you know, as time would go, about a year in, we started, I guess, kind of in a way considering maybe the opportunity to share our feelings with one another.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But what we realized was- That in itself is two reporters sharing their feelings with one another.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's got to be interesting right there.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's right. And who goes first?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: To ask a follow-up question.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But our jobs required us to act as though we were pursuing the demise of the other radio station.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Oh, it's a ratings thing.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So we had to keep our relationship on the down low.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So now, when it comes to- I'm coming back from my interview with Chris Duncan and Edmonton with City TV, and I come down to let my boss at the time know that I'm leaving.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I pull her in to an audio booth to deliver the news.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: She says, listen, she says, you've been great.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: She says, I wish you well.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And she says, by the way, I know you're dating Kari Skelton.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: There's no secret.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That is the best.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So as soon as I join forces with City TV, we can make our relationship public.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And there it is.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So obviously, she came here.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So we distance dated for a while.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I moved up to Edmonton.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: She was still doing her thing in Red Deer for about a year.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And then when she was able to secure employment with a morning show, her first job was with Rob & Audie.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I mean, yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So that was where it was actually, so it was a country station called Big Earl.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It was 96.3.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And when they rebranded to become Capital FM, it was Rob & Audie with Kari Skelton in the morning.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So that was what brought her to Edmonton.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: All right.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Wow, that's just great.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I love that story.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah, life comes at you fast.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Okay, so now you're on TV, full time in Edmonton.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah, I mean, a junior, cool.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: They didn't call me a junior reporter, but that's what I was.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So I was a videographer, which is now par for the course.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Nobody really aside from maybe the CBC has shooters and editors.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Everyone's doing it themselves.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But I would shoot my own stuff.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'd bring it back.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was lucky enough to work with an editor because that's not my strong suit.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It's just editing is its own special skill.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And yeah, but I would work weekends.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I would fill in.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I remember I got to host the 11 p.m.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: sports on the Saturday night when they used to have that.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: What a thrill for me.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I know Gene Principe has been on your podcast.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: This is one of my favorite stories to tell.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: This guy has been pure class from the very first moment.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: One of my very first assignments when I came to Edmonton was to go to Rexall Place and to interview Sean Horcoff who was on his way to the NHL All-Star Game.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I came in and I was shooting for myself, these big cameras, I had a microphone in one hand and I was trying to get in and now you're talking National League Reporter, TSN, Sportsnet, and the Journal, everybody's there.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I'm lying if I say I wasn't intimidated.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I'm trying to get the shot, I'm trying to get into the scrum and all the cameras are there.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And you know what, I feel this hand and Gene Principe takes my mic for me and puts it in the scrum so I can use both hands to run my camera.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I love telling that story because Gene Principe has been pure class from the minute I moved to Edmonton.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: He is a class.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I love that guy.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I love that guy.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: He was so willing to come on the podcast and we're just this little podcast and he was like right here.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: He's just an overall great human being.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Great human being.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah, he is.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And his wife's wonderful and she's gonna win in the riding and so it's gonna be great.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You know what I'll say, it's like, Gene didn't know that 20 years later, somebody was gonna be telling this story on a podcast.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Absolutely.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: He just did it.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Because he saw a young or, I wasn't young, but that was part of the problem.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was 30.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But he saw someone that he didn't even recognize, somebody that was obviously new, struggling.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: He knew that I was either gonna have poor audio or poor video based on how I was trying to juggle it and he helped me out.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Wow, that's fantastic.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Okay, so you're there now?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Where you go from there?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So I'm a journalist, I'm doing the VJ thing, I'm covering stories that are important, but they weren't leading the show, they weren't leading the broadcast.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Paul Menier, Jennifer Martin were our anchors at the time.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I remember anytime I'd get in the first block, in the first 11 minutes, that was a real win for me.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But it was rare.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And then I've been there, I guess, for a year and a half, two years, and just happy to be there.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But obviously you start thinking about your, again, I'm 31 probably at the time, and I'm starting to think about like, where's my career going and what's next?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And as a broadcaster in particular at that time, but still to this day, I'm thinking, am I going to move to Vancouver?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I can move back to Calgary?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Am I going to move to the States?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Which I hadn't ruled out.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I always wanted to anchor on KTLA in Los Angeles.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That was always a goal of mine.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Probably still is a goal today, it would be unreal.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And as chance would have it, one of the hosts on Breakfast Television was away on like a two week vacation.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And they needed somebody to fill in remotely for the legend Bridgette Ryan.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Bridgette, she was our live on location.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: She was live on location.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: She was filling in, in studio for the host that was on vacation.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so Paul Menier comes out, our Six O'clock anchor and boss.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And there was kind of like what you want to call it, like the pit, we'd call it, where all of the TV reporters had their desks.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: There's about six of us.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And all of these reporters have gone on to great things.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Asha Tomlinson, who's an investigative reporter for CBC.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Suda Krishnan, who does reporting out of Quebec.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So Paul comes up and he says, Suda, I need you to fill in for Bridgette on location tomorrow.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Can't, I've got an interview at the legislature.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Asha, I need you to fill in for Bridgette.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Can't, I'm doing this.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I'm facing my backs to him.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I'm facing, my eyes are out on Jasper Avenue.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I'm typing away and I'm working.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And the universe taps me on the shoulder and says, say something.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I turn around in my chair and I go, I'll do it.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And he smirks.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And then I go, I'll do it.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And he goes, you're in.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And he goes, tomorrow morning, Bellrose Composite high school, it's the bike-a-thon.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And you're filling in seven live hits, four minutes apiece.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I said, I'll be there.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Wow.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And then I soiled myself.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Four minutes live times seven.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: What?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so I showed up, adrenaline coursing through my veins and had a lot of fun.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And that was the first time.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I mean, it's a totally different gig.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You're not president of city council or whatever.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You're having fun.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You're the personality.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You're the live on location guy.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You're the life of the party.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I guess he saw, I mean, I was green, but he saw something in me.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That was a Thursday.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: He said, you want to do Friday?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I said, I want to do Friday.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I did the Friday show live on location.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And then that opened the door.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: They promoted me to what was called a swing host, which meant that when Breakfast Television personalities would go on vacation, I jump in and co-host.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And otherwise I would revert back to being a VJ, a video journalist.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And six months after swing host, they offered me the big chair and I was host to Breakfast Television from 2008 to 2014.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's awesome.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I mean, I got lucky.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's a long time.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But when the universe taps you on the shoulder, you better be ready.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Absolutely.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Say yes.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Here I am.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Take me.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's cool.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So beginning of December of 2014, leading up to what nobody knew was coming, which was the orange wave, Rachel Notley beating Jim Prentice, Justin Trudeau beating Stephen Harper.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Total political shift in Canada and the province.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Massive.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Massive.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Like a generational political shift.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I was feeling it, and I was feeling the energy.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And although I was doing, and I mean no disrespect because I loved my job at Breakfast Television, I was doing cooking segments, I was interviewing comedians.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But I always felt, like I said, education, health care, politics.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I always felt like there was something there for me.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I started doing these little bits of commentary on BT, right?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I would start really giving hot political takes.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I was getting subtle reminders from management.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Like you weren't the political director.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: This is not your job.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: This is not your assignment.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But it caught the attention of 630 Ched.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And they reached out to me as time would have it.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I mean, sometimes you just have dumb luck.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And it just so happened that my contract was up for renewal in 21 days on the 31st of December in 2014.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I had not yet been offered a renewal.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It would come, by the way.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But I had no...
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We live stream weekdays at 8: For your nerds that understand broadcasting, I had zero non-compete language in my contract, which is a big deal.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's huge.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And Ched reached out to me on the 10th of December, my sister's birthday, and offered me a job.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: They asked me what my non-compete was.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I said nothing.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: They said, when can you start?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I said January 5th, and I signed.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Wow! And for people, again, like we have listeners all over the place, 630 Ched in Edmonton was the station.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It really was.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Like, it was back in the day.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Back in the day, absolutely.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And not just the station, but the nine to noon time slot.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's the flagship time slot.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You go back to when I was pulling the staples out of the charts in the medical practice, my dad's practice.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was the only 15-year-old in the province of Alberta religiously listening to Dave Rutherford.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And the fact that I was being offered the Rutherford time slot blew my mind.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And Dave Rutherford was an icon.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: He was an institution.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: He was everybody, well, every adult.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I mean, he had that job in 25 years.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: He was amazing.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And now you have this job.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Now I have this job.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Incredible.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Well, and you think that I was nervous when I had seven times four minutes segments at Bellrose Composite high school.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Now I've got, not filling in.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Well, I'm making over.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's what I mean.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But now it's three hours.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And now you're taking phone calls.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And now everybody's listening at that time anyway.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And boy, oh boy, was that a level up for me.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That was when I felt, I mean, I could not have been more thrilled.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Right.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Did you feel you'd reached the pinnacle?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Was that it?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I did.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I mean, not from the salary stand point.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: There's still some work to be done there.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's the reality of radio these days.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But absolutely.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And how long have you been married now?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You're married.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Well, I took the job January 5th, 2015, and March 22nd, 209 was my wedding.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So I've been married for six years.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Five, six years.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So this is pretty cool.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: This is going great.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: This is cool.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: This is happening.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And we can buy a house now.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Cool.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We can start talking about having a kid.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah, yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: All that kind of stuff.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's awesome.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Okay.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So how long were you there?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was there right up until the day I was fired, which was September 25th of 2020.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So I was there for about six years, five, six years.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And that was a big deal.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Me getting fired?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah, you're telling me.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: No, for you.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'm sure for you, it was the bigger deal.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: In the media world in Edmonton, that was huge.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It was huge news.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It was huge.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It was on the front page of the paper.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It was huge.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's really difficult as an individual, as a human, especially because, I mean, if you want, I'll speak frankly, it was very political.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I think that it was spun in certain ways, depending on who you're listening to.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I had had a, do you want the real story?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Do Coffee In The Park listeners want the real story?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: What's particularly strange about this for me is that Jason Kenny, when he was a young elected MP, was my parents' choice and I lived in Jason Kenny's riding in South Calgary.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Okay.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so we didn't have a lawn sign on our front lawn.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We had a four by six Jason Kenny sign on our lawn.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: My parents would host fundraisers in our home for Jason Kenny.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Everybody knew who you were voting for.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: When I got accepted into SAIT, I sent Jason Kenny an e-mail in my early 20s to let him know that I had been accepted and maybe one day I'd be interviewing him and he responded.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So I want people to know that there was history there.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Of course.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Again, so Jason Kenny was a prominent member of parliament for many years.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Until he became the premier of Alberta.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: He was the cabinet minister.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: He was Stephen Harper's right-hand man.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's right.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: He was the guy.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: When it came time to where the political climate was at in 2015, everything got turned upside down.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Rachel Motley wins, Justin Trudeau wins.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: What would be wins for any talk radio host, for example, getting the prime minister of Canada in his studio like I did.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yes.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Having an exclusive interview with the- three weeks ago.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Well, yeah, but I mean the first time.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Okay, way back.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So we bring in Justin Trudeau into the 630 Ched studio for an exclusive.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's a big deal.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yes, we get the prime minister.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Rachel Notley's first interview as Premier of Alberta.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's a big deal.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Huge.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: How do you think that lands with the conservative audience at 630 Ched?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So they think I'm a left-wing plant.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: They think I'm an operative because I'm not hurling insults and calling them names.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'm doing objective interviews.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Right.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And it was a very interesting time.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'm a progressive conservative.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's how I describe myself to people.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: People always try to pin me down on the political spectrum.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I say I'm a small P, a small C, progressive conservative, and I conducted myself accordingly.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But that's it.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: If I have to go back and identify kind of where it all began at Ched, it almost started at the very beginning off on the wrong foot, which is crazy because we quadrupled our audience share when I was there.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: The show was sold out, but the conservatives in Alberta didn't necessarily like me because I was not actively opposing the government every single day.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Right?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so that's kind of where it all began.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But again, as a journalist, that's not your job.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It's to tell the objective story.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I know.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We talk about that a lot.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We talk about it a lot.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Cam and I do talk about that a lot.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We've gotten away from that you were doing your job.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And you know what would be so funny is like, to not interview an NDP premier, to not interview a NDP premier.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Of course it would.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so this culminates and builds to the point where...
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We live stream weekdays at 8: By the way, we're starting a new party.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We just want you to know that.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It's called the Realist Party.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: There's no fee to join.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: There's no...
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Just be a realist.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Because that's what you were being, was a realist.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'll make that.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'm one for one in elections, as you know.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'm a freshman class president.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So maybe we can...
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We live stream weekdays at 8: A little conflict of interest.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But we won't talk about that.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So I won't get too much into my new show, but I will say this.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: There were hard feelings behind the scenes.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And what became particularly interesting is I had forged a friendship and a professional relationship with one of my idols to this day, a huge influence in my career.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And that is now Senator Charles Adler, who was the host of Charles Adler tonight.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: He's an RTDNA lifetime achievement award winner.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: This guy was talk radio in Canada for three years.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Again, for those listening, not in Canada, Charles Adler was the guy.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: He was, and nationally.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: He was Rush Limbaugh in Canada.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: What a great way to put it, because he was national.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And in those days, there weren't many national people in Canada, and he was national.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So everybody listened to him.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So here's the true story of what happened.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So Adler taps me on the shoulder, I think it was the 4th of April in 2019.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: There was a candidate in Drayton Valley that was running for the Conservatives, for the United Conservatives, and they're working to get rid of what they were calling the accidental Rachel Notley government.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: This Conservative candidate was not caught on Camera, did it himself, but in delivering an address to his church, he said, gay love is not real love.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so Adler's producer calls me and says, Adler wants to do a live hit tonight nationally to talk about this, which I was thrilled to do.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so I go on and I make no bones about my position, which is that the Conservatives are building a big tent party.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And if they're serious about it, they're going to win this.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I said this.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I said, they're going to win this election.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I said, but they can't do it with this candidate in Drayton Valley.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: They have to send a message that that's an unacceptable perspective.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So cut to election night.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'm walking into the big four building down in Calgary to be on the global broadcast that night on a panel with Danielle Smith, by the way, my colleague in radio for a lot of years.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: As I'm walking up the stairs to go in, the man who I've known well, who would go on to become Jason Kenney's Director of Communications, walks up beside me and says, you will never get an interview with the Premier.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I walked in that night realizing that the stakes had changed, and that culminated over the course of the next number of months.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That was April 2019.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was fired September 2020.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So I was able to last it for about 18 months because our ratings were so strong, but it ultimately got to the point where I got into a bit of a bickering bit with an Edmonton City Councilor who had lit a fire.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: With his fellow Councilors, Mike Nichol had a sanctioning hearing with his fellow Councilors because of his conduct on social media.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I made an off-the-cuff comment that this guy's got these chimpanzees typing out these idiotic tweets, and I'll get serious for a quick second because I don't think there's anything funny about the allegation, but his office argued that I had racialized the matter.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Obviously, that's not a racial comment.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Again, politicized, behind the scenes.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Everybody can picture the chimpanzee with a cigarette in his mouth, typing at the typewriter, but that was very difficult because then ultimately, when I was fired and there was blood and I received word.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I mean, this is the inside scoop for your listeners.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I received word from a friend who works in Crisis Comms, and she says, I can tell you that the Chorus Executive Board has been contacted by the Premier's Office, and she said, you're gone.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And that was it.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was fired on September 25th of 2020, and Real Talk was born on November 23rd.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So, okay, at this point, Ryan, are you, I mean, did you have any inkling that this was ever going to happen to you in your career?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Getting fired or starting something new?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Well, no, the whole getting fired piece.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You thought you were safe.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I had a 20 year plan.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I mean, I was, you know, the only reason I thought that I would leave 630 Ched was to go host a national show.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Right, yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And Adler had hosted his national show out of Winnipeg for years.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yes, he had.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So, as a matter of fact, because I was also the Oilers' in-game host, I was the Jumbotron guy for seven seasons, while six plus COVID interrupted.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You know, I didn't see any reason for us to leave Edmonton.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I've always been very proud to be from Alberta, but I did have an aspiration of a national show, which I guess I now have.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But getting fired was not on my bingo card.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You have more than a national show, you have a global show, really, now.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: 37 countries last month.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: See?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It's amazing.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So you're fired, and then you start...
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I mean, what else was I going to do?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Had you ever been thinking about going that route?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Well, my wife likes to take credit, and she deserves it, because she'd been in my ear for a while.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'm being a little more candid here than I expected to be.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'll give you another little tidbit.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So about 18 months before I was fired, this would have been the end of 2017, so going into 2018, I was renegotiating my contract.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: My contract was up for renewal, and we had a very different view on what I was worth.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Right.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I still wanted to be paid like Terry Evans, and I still wanted to be paid like Garner Andrews, and all these guys.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I love those guys, by the way.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And obviously, there was a different reality that was not coming.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It was already there.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And the fiscal reality meant that nobody was getting rich in talk radio anymore.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so it was a really difficult renegotiation where I realized that the writing was on the wall, and I was never really going to be able to achieve what I wanted to career-wise.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I'm just being real with you guys.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so I had said to my wife, I don't think I've ever said this out loud, I said to my wife that I signed a three-year extension, and I said this will be the last contract that I signed with them.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But you know, they talk about pro athletes that go to arbitration with the teams.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And when you go to arbitration, the team's job is to try to clamp down as much as they can.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so they talk about everything that you do poorly.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And they often talk in sports about how some relationships never recover from arbitration, because the athlete fears the team will blow up.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And when I look back on it, although I still showed up like a pro, I realized that there had been damage done in that renegotiation.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so our plan was to have a three-year runway to figure out my next move.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I got halfway through, and got canned.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But my wife had always said to me, you've got to start a podcast.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: She says, like, respectfully, nobody's listening to AM Radio anymore, and everybody's listening to podcasts.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But I thought, well, it's easy to say when you have a six-figure salary, and you're good.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And it's still a hit show.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And it's still a hit show.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah, of course it is.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You know, and I'm getting all the, you know, and it made no sense to me.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I had a car provided, all these kinds of things.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And it didn't make sense to blow it all up and leave.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But I'll tell you, it makes no sense to blow it up and leave with no controversy.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But when you are on the front page of the newspaper and when you're loyal, following the leafs, we were the only AM talk show in Canada that was rated top five in the major market.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So we were top five rated in Edmonton.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Nobody was doing that in Montreal.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Nobody was doing that in Vancouver.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Nobody was doing that in Toronto.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So it didn't necessarily make sense to leave.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But when I got fired, the outpouring, and actually, can I say guys, it actually does mean a lot to me.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: When you say that that was a big deal for you, and when you say that was a, I did you say tectonic shift, or you said something?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah, it was.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: When I was canned, because we were flooded with messages from people that were saying, wherever you go and whatever you do, we've got you.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I have a sponsor right now.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I want to recognize them right now.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Mercedes-Benz Edmonton West.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: They reached out to me.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I had one of their cars.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I knew I was gonna have to give it back.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And the owner, they sponsor our Feature Reviews To This Day on Real Talk.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: The owner of that dealership called me the day I was fired, and he said, is it true?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I said, it's true.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And he said, the first thing I want you to know is that you've got 30 more days with that car.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: He said, the last thing I need you to do is worry about how you're gonna get your family around.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And he said, and whatever you're doing next, we want to be a part of it.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And Freson Brothers did the same thing, and other sponsors of mine have done the same thing.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So we started with an unfair advantage, which was name recognition, existing audience, existing sponsorship, right?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And a sense that there had been an injustice.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's right, controversy.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Controversy.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so when I posted confirmation on my Twitter, I'll never forget, I was down at my parents' house in Calgary and I released a statement that I'd been fired.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And my tweet had 9,000 likes.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I thought, we might be on to something here.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And good for you, because some people would have just faded into the woodwork.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And hung their head and walked away.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So good on you.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Thank you for saying that.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I will also say I was petrified.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah, I'm sure.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was so nervous.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was mostly nervous.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Let's say somebody sinks three quarters of a million dollars into a new restaurant, and then nobody shows up on opening night.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But if I can just say I kind of get the sense with you that being nervous or petrified is what drives you.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It's one of my best.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It's when you do your best.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It's when you thrive.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Which is a great trait, a great characteristic.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It's okay to be nervous.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It's okay to be fearful.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Turn it into positive.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: A hundred percent.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah, I love that.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So if we get cut, if we get canceled, hopefully Wing Snob will still give us 30 days of wings.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's all I'm saying.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Because we heard it in the program.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Are you listening, Mike Chadi?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You're gonna keep giving us wings.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's right.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We want 30 days of wings.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You know what the beauty of what you guys are doing and the beauty of what I'm doing now is that, I mean, aside from obvious fiscal realities, only you can cancel your own show.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Right?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: There's not, there's not, and I have many, many friends still at radio stations and TV stations.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Some of them were just laid off last week. Yes, there was another round of layoffs.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I hate to see it.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But I will say this, even if you have a successful show, even if your show is sold out and profitable, you're always looking over your shoulder, wondering when the guillotine is going to drop on you.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah, exactly.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I, that, yeah, I mean, yeah, we're all lucky.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We can say what we want.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: There's nobody really gonna, I mean, people either like us or don't like us.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: They either like you or they don't like you.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: More like you than don't like you.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: So they're gonna watch.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I love the hate listens too.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah, exactly.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We'll take anybody.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Hate downloads are some of my favorite downloads.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's right.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We don't get a lot of hate mail, but then, just wait till this episode comes out.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Ours is coming in a couple of weeks when we interview the trainer of the seal and the penguin at the mall.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That is gonna be ugly on a day.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But anyway, that's what there's gonna be.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We're gonna be picking out of the Wall here.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We interviewed the penguin.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Make sure you loop in some Lucy the Elephant stuff.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That was gonna be our next interview.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We want that one too.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Wow, this is fascinating.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: This is just, man, I just appreciate this.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: This is amazing.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Okay, we're at 59 minutes.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We've never done a podcast and I could go for another 59 minutes.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: This is incredible.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Well, I mean, I would just say what's taken us to this point, and we haven't even talked about Real Talk, which is fine.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: People can check out ryanjespersen.com and talk about it.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We just had Prime Minister Mark Carney in the studio.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: He did.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Danielle Smith two years after that.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We're doing Mayoral Debates Edmonton last Friday on the 3rd of October.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Calgary's is coming up on the 10th.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We have a passionate audience.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We're one of Canada's most downloaded daily news talk shows.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'm grateful for the opportunity every single day.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We are Alberta's talk show of record.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We would not be that without our audience, but we're still learning.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We have a beautiful studio in Mercer Warehouse downtown, which we're really proud of, but it is still a grind every single day.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But I'll tell you one thing, the format may change, the platforms may change, but people still need reputable, objective talk shows where they feel like their views can be represented, and that's what we're committed to delivering.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Let's just be real.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Stay on the realist party, man.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Stay there.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Well, that's co-branding opportunities.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: All I want to say is, I can sue you if you get too close to us around the town.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: All I want to say here is, A, just all we ask is one mention on your show. And secondly, 30 dyas of wings! Do I get to record a one-liner for wings? We'll talk to Mike Chadi.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: One other thing, and I'm only half-joking, because you're always closing, right?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And that's been an evolution for me as well, is we always joke in broadcasting that we're the teeth and the hair, and I was always surrounded.
1:01:49
We live stream weekdays at 8: I've tried to throw some names out here in this episode to really recognize people that showed faith in me and that have really supported me, including when I was fired.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But I never was producing my own show, I was never selling my own show, I was never promoting my own show aside from the obvious.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And now taking all of that on as a small business owner and an entrepreneur has woken me up to that reality.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It's a huge challenge, everything requires a separate skill set.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so this is really pushing me.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'm 48 now, I'm almost 50.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I mean, this is going to be what I do, this will be my life's work.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Well, you know what, that was going to be my next question.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: What's next for Ryan Jespersen?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah, well, our parent company, which I own, we're not owned by anyone, but it's called Relay.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And we're learning and we're growing and we're producing other shows.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We've released five different podcasts nationally.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We've released a sports podcast, we've released a women in politics podcast, and we're really proud of that work that we're doing.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I believe, like I said, that the future is wide open and we'll continue to expand those offerings.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And I do so with those same butterflies.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And let me tell you, there's always room for the story behind the story podcast.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'm just saying.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: No shame here, let me tell you.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But I love it because this is, I said to Jennifer earlier, this is why I wanted you on the show, because I wanted to learn.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And today I've been to school.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I've been to school today.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Seriously, I've been to school.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Because we're this little fish, and you're in a bigger pond.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And we're learning, we want to get there.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: This is just been, this is unbelievable.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I could go another hour.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I want to tell your audience something.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: From the minute that I walked in here, these are the warmest handshakes I've received.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Your eyes are bright, your smiles are huge.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And you're bouncing in your chairs.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We're doing it in a coffee shop, man.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: How many coffees do you have before I got here?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: But I will say, it's obvious that you guys are passionate.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Not just about Acheson, and not just about Parkland County, not just where you are here in this beautiful province that we call home, but also about what you're doing and why you're doing it.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And if you understand your why, and if you have the passion, and if you understand sort of what means a successful venture, how do you define a successful venture?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Then I think that you guys are absolutely killing it.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's great.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We gotta finish here, because we've never gone over an hour, but I don't really care.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I don't care if you had to go pee or whatever, come back.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You had to know what you were getting into.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Exactly, when you invited me here.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Okay, so you have two kids.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Wyatt and Noah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Wyatt and Noah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: All right, and they're in school. Well not right now.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Exactly.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah, Wyatt's 10 and he's in grade 5 and he's just loving it.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Loves playing hockey, loves playing basketball, loves snowboarding.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And Noah's 3.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And so we have this wonderful adventure.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We've talked about our fertility journey.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Our family is just a beautiful family and with the older brother, younger brother dynamic and I'm thrilled.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: They're the lights of my life.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Fantastic.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's fantastic.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Final question, Cam?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah, final question.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That we ask all of our guests.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Jennifer asks every guest this question.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It's really important to us.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It is.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Ryan, what is the best piece of advice you've been given in your career or in your personal life that you carry with you to this day?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: This is from my buddy.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Sorry, I don't know why.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Sorry.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It's good.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You're trying to make me cry.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Gretzky cried.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yes, he did.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: My buddy John Rabby in Vancouver gave me this piece of advice.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And that is that a person should always wear a coat with two pockets.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And in one pocket, a note that says, I am nothing but dust and ash.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And in the other pocket, a note that says, the world was created for me.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Wow.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Come on.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Mic drop.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: What a way to end it.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: One day, one, and we are, one day we're going to, I mean, we've done 71, 72 episodes.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: We're going to, we ask that to every guest, and we're going to write a book with all those quotes.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I think that's an incredible idea.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And that one will be, that's good.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's just good.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's just good.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Ryan, where can they find Real Talk?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Yeah.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Thank you for asking.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Go to ryanjespersen.com, three Es, no Os.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: You can find us on every social media platform at Real Talk RJ, and of course, wherever you get your podcasts.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Wow.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: There it is, folks.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I mean, come on.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That was it today.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That was the best.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Wing Snob, thanks for all you do.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Thanks, Mike.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Tonight, if you...
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I'm literally driving there now.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I was going to say, the parmesean wings.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's right.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: When you're...
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I don't even think I'm joking.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: The day you listen to this podcast, well, Ryan will go tonight.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: The day you listen to this podcast, go get wings.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Go get wings.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And Mprint, thanks for everything you do for us.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Thank you, everybody.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: How do we thank you?
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Make sure you tell everybody about Coffee In The Park with Jennifer and Cam.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Tell your friends, tell your neighbors, tell your enemies.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: If you don't have a friend, make ones just so you can tell them about the podcast.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And that's it.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That's great.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It's awesome.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I don't know how to quit this one.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I just want to keep going.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: It's awesome.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Maybe we'll have part two.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Maybe we will.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I hope.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I hope.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: I hope one day we could do that.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: That would be really great.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Thanks, everybody.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: And thank you, Ryan.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: Thanks, guys.
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We live stream weekdays at 8: This means a lot.