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Friday 4pm hour 05/22/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: Back to it. News Radio 570. Dodie, can we end?
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  Speaker 1: You're on the air.
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  Speaker 2: Ron?
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, Ron.
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  Speaker 2: I've been listening.
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  Speaker 5: I listened all the way to.
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  Speaker 2: Michigan about all this Trump listen. Everybody has a right
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  Speaker 2: to disagree with Trump. And I understand how some people
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  Speaker 2: would find this super disturbing, the fact that he got
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  Speaker 2: this DOJ tax.
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  Speaker 5: You're not going to look into his taxes.
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  Speaker 2: But what people seem to forget is if you were Trump,
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  Speaker 2: What would you do? Let's not forget the fact that
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  Speaker 2: they sued this man from one side of the country
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  Speaker 2: to the other. Russia, Russia, Russia, two impeachments, Ukraine phone call,
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  Speaker 2: New York business fraud. They valued Mar-a-Lago at like, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, something insane. All the January 6th, the classified
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  Speaker 2: documents BS, the Georgia election case, all the civil lawsuits.
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  Speaker 2: And we're questioning why would he want this? Why would
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  Speaker 2: he want this agreement? It doesn't take a nuclear scientist
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  Speaker 2: to figure out why he would want this for him
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  Speaker 2: and his kids. They have shown that they will do
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  Speaker 2: anything and everything that they can in their power to
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  Speaker 2: destroy him. Now, you people are upset about the Iran.
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  Speaker 2: I get it because everybody wants economic stability. Everybody wants
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  Speaker 2: the war to end. I do, too. I'm sick of
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  Speaker 2: paying at the pump, too. But we are, Americans are like,
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  Speaker 2: we need resolution today, right now, today. We want it
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  Speaker 2: solved today. Everybody knows the timeline that's pending, right? That's
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  Speaker 2: the election coming up. We have to give them the time.
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  Speaker 2: We got to give them the time. And if it drops,
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  Speaker 2: then everybody, you know, and everybody should be questioning it.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with that. There's days I question it more
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  Speaker 2: than others. But overall, we have to give them a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of time. Before we have to burn the
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  Speaker 2: whole house down. Can't we give them a little time
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  Speaker 2: before we burn the house to the ground? That's all
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  Speaker 2: I'm saying. And if it was you and they sued
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  Speaker 2: your daughter, your son, your wife, every person you knew
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  Speaker 2: and through every lawsuit tied you up in court, you know,
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  Speaker 2: tried to bankrupt you. Do you see why he might
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  Speaker 2: want to do this?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I absolutely see why he would want to do it.
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  Speaker 1: But I would do it too.
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  Speaker 2: And any reasonable person would do it. Not because you
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  Speaker 2: have something to hide. Listen, they've already gone through all
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  Speaker 2: this finances a million different ways sideways.
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  Speaker 6: I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's back up here.
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  Speaker 2: Give me an aye-aye, Captain, because I deserve one on that.
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  Speaker 1: You know I.
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  Speaker 6: Crushed that point.
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  Speaker 4: I crushed it.
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  Speaker 2: I crushed it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, sit down here, Beavis. Now, listen to this.
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't want Beavis. Give me a different name.
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  Speaker 5: For my thing.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: Settle down, Beavis. Don't you remember that? All right, here's...
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  Speaker 1: I'm giving you..
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a nickname. All right, what?
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  Speaker 1: Here is the deal. I mean, everyone should realize what
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  Speaker 1: brought this on to begin with. I mean, you had
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  Speaker 1: somebody at the IRS that leaked the tax returns. Tax
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  Speaker 1: returns are privates. They're not supposed to be made public.
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  Speaker 1: I'll give fault where fault goes. So you had a
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  Speaker 1: person there that leaked Trump's personal tax return, which is
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  Speaker 1: against the law. Also, Sean Hannity's and other conservatives. All right.
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  Speaker 1: So the guy literally in his position with the IRS
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  Speaker 1: stole this information and released it. And I blame him,
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  Speaker 1: and he is in jail. In addition to that, though,
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  Speaker 1: I blame the media because I blame the New York
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  Speaker 1: Times and the media that took information that was stolen
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  Speaker 1: and should have never been published because it was stolen
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  Speaker 1: in private and published in any way because of their
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  Speaker 1: hatred of Trump or Sean Hannity or conservatives. So they
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  Speaker 1: publish this stuff mainly because of conservatives. And that's why
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  Speaker 1: they put it out there, Hannity's and more. And these
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  Speaker 1: media entities should be sued and should have to make
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  Speaker 1: these individuals whole as a result of putting out this
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  Speaker 1: stolen information. They should be on the hook for it
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  Speaker 1: because they were the ones that made it public. Now,
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  Speaker 1: hang on. So they have liability on this. And if
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  Speaker 1: I go one step further, okay, so they put this
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  Speaker 1: fund together as a settlement with him. That's all well
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  Speaker 1: and good. That tax return should have never been let
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  Speaker 1: go to begin with. But to get a blanket waiver..
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  Speaker 2: What has Biden done? And I'm not saying just because
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  Speaker 2: one does it, the.
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  Speaker 1: Other one has to do it. What Biden did was
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  Speaker 1: he did all this stuff for his family. Now, if
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  Speaker 1: Trump leaves and pardons his family, I guess you could say, well,
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  Speaker 1: what's the big deal? Biden did it as well. So
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  Speaker 1: is that where we want to go, though, as a
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  Speaker 1: country where your family can get away with stuff? Listen,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't read enough about it, but
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  Speaker 1: I see people talking a lot about the Trump kids
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  Speaker 1: that you don't see a lot of are making a
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  Speaker 1: ton of money.
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  Speaker 2: They had a lot of money before all this.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe they did.
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  Speaker 1: This is outside that. Maybe they're making money on stock.
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  Speaker 5: But let me tell you why.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know enough about it yet to say one
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  Speaker 1: way or the other. But if it's the case, if
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  Speaker 1: they are making money because of their father's position, it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't make it any more right than when Hunter Biden
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  Speaker 1: was doing it because of his dad's position. You follow
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? If you got one standard for one,
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  Speaker 1: then you by God better have it for the other side.
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  Speaker 2: I understand that. And I agree with that. I'm saying
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  Speaker 2: that is smart. It is smart to put protections in
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  Speaker 2: place as soon as he leaves office. And if we
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  Speaker 2: lose the Senator of the House or both, they're going
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  Speaker 2: to impeach him. And they're going to start suing him
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  Speaker 2: all over again.
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  Speaker 5: I would do this.
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  Speaker 2: They dragged him to hell. They called him everything from
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  Speaker 2: a traitor to this to that. They made him, they
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  Speaker 2: dragged him through the mud for years. All politically motivated.
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  Speaker 2: I would do the same thing. And I would do
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  Speaker 2: it for my children. I would do it for anybody
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  Speaker 2: who was around me that I had to protect. It
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  Speaker 2: makes no sense. Trump has had a bazillion dollars before.
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  Speaker 2: He'll have a bazillion dollars after. He doesn't need the
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  Speaker 2: money anymore. And I could totally understand why he.
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  Speaker 1: Would do that.
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  Speaker 2: And I think you could, too, because we know how.
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  Speaker 3: Bad it was.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, would they value Mar-a-Lago at? It was like
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  Speaker 2: something insane. I mean, just any way that they could.
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  Speaker 2: They had him tied up in lawsuits. He couldn't even campaign.
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  Speaker 2: He couldn't move. He couldn't move. I mean, it was
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  Speaker 2: like he had to be in court hearings, and he
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  Speaker 2: couldn't even be on the campaign trail. It was all strategic.
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  Speaker 2: These people are crazy. They will stop at nothing. And
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  Speaker 2: in regards to this war, we do not have to
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  Speaker 2: burn the whole building down. Yes, we question and we
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  Speaker 2: good question. We're not bobbleheads. We're not mental midgets. We
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  Speaker 2: need to have brains and be thinking what is going
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  Speaker 2: on and questioning it. Do we like it? We don't
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  Speaker 2: like it. But you don't burn the house to the
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  Speaker 2: ground in this short amount of time. He knows the deadline.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he knows it's approaching. And by the end
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  Speaker 2: of this summer, there hasn't been something that is either
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  Speaker 2: driving prices down or we haven't handled Iran. And that
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  Speaker 2: hasn't concluded. He knows we're in trouble. I believe he's
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  Speaker 2: going to do everything he possibly can do to stop that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, do we think he wants us to lose seats?
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  Speaker 2: And I'm irritated with it, too. I mean, it cost
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  Speaker 2: me like $ 80 to fill out my... I just drove
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  Speaker 2: four hours to Michigan and back. I get it. And
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  Speaker 2: everything is more expensive. But we want everything right now.
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  Speaker 2: We want it right now in this country. We have
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  Speaker 2: little tolerance. And I think we would all say... If
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  Speaker 2: not him, then who? The alternative, and you know this,
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  Speaker 2: you agree with this, is insane. So we've elected him
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  Speaker 2: because we think he is, you know, the art of
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  Speaker 2: the deal. He's strategic minded. Is he arrogant? Absolutely. Does
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  Speaker 2: he make me crazy sometimes? Sometimes there's words that come
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  Speaker 2: out of his mouth. I wish I could reach through
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  Speaker 2: the phone and grab him by his neck. Or say,
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  Speaker 2: are you stupid? Like, why would you say that? There's
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  Speaker 2: a million times where I want to, like, literally scream.
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  Speaker 2: Just to put the lesser of the evils. Like, the
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  Speaker 2: stuff that comes out of his mouth or the policies
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  Speaker 2: that he, you know, or the closed border. I've got
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  Speaker 2: to pick. And, you know, Trump, listen, people say, oh,
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  Speaker 2: Trump's vindictive. I mean, he just goes after it. I
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  Speaker 2: totally hate, I hate that he does it. I hate it.
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  Speaker 2: It sickens me. Trump wasn't any different four years ago,
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  Speaker 2: just so everybody listening knows. Never tolerated. You were either
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  Speaker 2: on his team or you were against him. He has
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  Speaker 2: not changed. He wants all the players on the field
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  Speaker 2: moving in the same motion with.
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  Speaker 5: The same goal.
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  Speaker 2: He's always been that way. And if he even smells
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  Speaker 2: to disagree with him, he don't want to on his team. Now,
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  Speaker 2: he elected that. You're going to cry about it today.
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  Speaker 2: That's my thought, and I think I should get an
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  Speaker 2: IR captain, and I'm not Beavis. You can come up
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  Speaker 2: with another name. Don't give me Beavis. I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: give you Beavis.
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  Speaker 1: All right. I'll go with Butthead then. All right. Have
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  Speaker 1: a great week.
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  Speaker 2: Ring the bell. Where's your bell? Go ahead and ring it.
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  Speaker 1: Wait a minute. Hang on.
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  Speaker 5: Hang on.
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  Speaker 2: Ring it because I crushed it, Ron.
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  Speaker 1: You're awful demanding.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I just want you to know. I get a
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  Speaker 2: standing O for that, and you're going to be stingy
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  Speaker 2: and try not to give it to me, but I
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  Speaker 2: already know that you know that I know.
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  Speaker 5: So here's that.
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  Speaker 1: There you go, Sia. There you go. That's enough. All right.
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  Speaker 1: Have a great weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Bye.
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  Speaker 1: NewsRadio 570 WDQ. on the air.
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  Speaker 6: Ron, how you doing?
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  Speaker 3: Good.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, it's kind of interesting listening to that last caller.
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  Speaker 6: You know, she, it's very interesting when you listen to
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  Speaker 6: people who are defending Trump, you know, especially on Iran,
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  Speaker 6: talking about inflation, the economy. The basically only reason or
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  Speaker 6: the only justification you hear from people is that, well,
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  Speaker 6: we have to give him time. I trust him. We
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  Speaker 6: need to give him more time. There's never any, like,
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  Speaker 6: reasons given for why we should support Trump with his
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  Speaker 6: war in Iran, why people think it's worth it. It's
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  Speaker 6: all just trust. You've got to trust him. So I
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  Speaker 6: think those arguments are extremely weak. And basically, that's why
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  Speaker 6: Trump's suffering so bad in the polls right now. Now,
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  Speaker 6: the other thing I wanted to talk about is, you know,
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  Speaker 6: talking about the economy and Most people are actually, Frank
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  Speaker 6: was kind of talking about it, like, you know, some
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  Speaker 6: people think that, oh, we should have, like, a businessman
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  Speaker 6: who runs the economy or is in charge of our government.
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  Speaker 6: That doesn't even make sense. The point of a business
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  Speaker 6: owner or a CEO or someone who's a head of
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  Speaker 6: a company is to make money for that company. If
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  Speaker 6: you have a person who's a head of the U.S. government,
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  Speaker 6: and their job is to make money for the U.S. government,
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  Speaker 6: the only way the U.S. government can make money, I mean,
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  Speaker 6: they can make some investments outside the country and things
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  Speaker 6: like that, but is to take money out of the
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  Speaker 6: private sector and to put it in the public sector.
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  Speaker 6: That would be the only way for the U.S. government
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  Speaker 6: to make money. Now, if you actually want to look
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  Speaker 6: at like a chart, you could pull this up, you
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  Speaker 6: could look at the the amount of money that the
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  Speaker 6: private sector has, like private sector profits, and you can
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  Speaker 6: compare that against public sector debt. Now, this is, I
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  Speaker 6: could send you the chart if you're interested. They exactly
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  Speaker 6: mirror each other. So there is no way for a
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  Speaker 6: private business to make money unless the government has produced
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  Speaker 6: money and handed that money out into the economy for
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  Speaker 6: people to make money. So that's what people, when people
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  Speaker 6: refer to the debt, when people say, oh, there's a
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  Speaker 6: $ 40 trillion debt on our government, well, yeah, because they've
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  Speaker 6: put $ 40 trillion into our economy. They've given money to
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  Speaker 6: pensions funds. They give money to private businesses. They give
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  Speaker 6: money to all these institutional investors. That is literally the
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  Speaker 6: only way. That is, in fact, how our economy works. Now,
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  Speaker 6: I think it's a legitimate concern to say, well, maybe
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  Speaker 6: the government shouldn't put all that much money into the economy. Okay,
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  Speaker 6: that's one argument, but that means the only way to
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  Speaker 6: reduce that deficit is to take money out of private citizens'
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  Speaker 6: hands and put it back into the government. And, you know,
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  Speaker 6: the debt that's owed by the government is owned by,
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  Speaker 6: I've already kind of mentioned it, pension funds, institutional investors,
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  Speaker 6: things like that. So if the government were forced to
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  Speaker 6: pay those out, all those people who made those investments
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  Speaker 6: by buying treasuries and things like that, they would get
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  Speaker 6: less of a return than they expected. So most people
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  Speaker 6: are extremely confused about what it means for our government
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  Speaker 6: to have a debt, what it means when the government
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  Speaker 6: creates money. Things like that. People are just extremely confused
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  Speaker 6: about it all.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that that's confusing. Debt isn't a good
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  Speaker 1: thing for the government to have because, as I said,
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  Speaker 1: your second biggest expense is solely the interest on the debt,
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  Speaker 1: not lowering it. And it continues to grow. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: so the reality is of your $ 4. 5 trillion coming in
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  Speaker 1: a year and your federal income tax dollars, your second
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  Speaker 1: biggest expense is the interest on it. You've got to
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  Speaker 1: cut spending.
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  Speaker 5: And you've got to get them.
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  Speaker 6: Who are they paying that interest to?
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  Speaker 1: Well, in many cases, I don't care if it's China
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  Speaker 1: or Japan or American investors, it doesn't make it right.
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  Speaker 1: It isn't a good thing when so much of your
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  Speaker 1: tax dollars are going to pay for nothing other than
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  Speaker 1: interest going out as opposed to using it for other purposes.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 6: But the government's not forcing people to borrow or to
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  Speaker 6: buy government debt.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's becoming more and more difficult. It's becoming more difficult.
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  Speaker 6: Stand by.
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  Speaker 1: Stand by. Hang on. Finish my conversation with him. Take
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  Speaker 1: more of your calls straight ahead. 422 Ron Verb from
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  Speaker 1: the Kingdom of Mali. 570 WKBN. So then according to
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  Speaker 1: your philosophy, then, it doesn't matter to you if the
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  Speaker 1: debt's $ 40 trillion or $ 100 trillion.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right. If you look at Japan's debt to GDP,
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  Speaker 6: they're almost like double. We're basically like we're about as
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  Speaker 6: much in debt as we make in GDP a year.
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  Speaker 6: If you look at Japan, they're about double. They're about
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  Speaker 6: double in debt over their GDP. Now, I mean, there's
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  Speaker 6: a lot of reasons why you wouldn't want to do that.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe the government's making bad investments. Maybe you think they're
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  Speaker 6: not going to be able to make their payments on
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  Speaker 6: that stuff in the future. You know, that's all, like,
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  Speaker 6: completely legitimate. Like, you know, I think it's a really
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  Speaker 6: bad idea for the government to go into debt in
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  Speaker 6: order to spend money on a war in Iran. I
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  Speaker 6: think that's a terrible investment. But, you know, an investment like, hey,
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  Speaker 6: let's spend some money on Medicaid so that, you know,
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  Speaker 6: we don't have as much, you know, pain and suffering
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  Speaker 6: throughout the society. People can actually see the doctors they
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  Speaker 6: want to. Well, I think that's a good investment. You know,
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  Speaker 6: but that's exactly the opposite of how conservatives and Republicans
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  Speaker 6: view it. And I think it's actually, like, really detrimental
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  Speaker 6: to our economy. You know, what they say is, you know,
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  Speaker 6: we're Republicans, we want less taxes, smaller government. I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I agree they want less taxes. They don't want smaller government.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, look at what George W.
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  Speaker 3: Bush did.
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  Speaker 6: He lowered taxes and increased spending on wars. That is
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  Speaker 6: the exact same thing Trump is doing. He did the
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  Speaker 6: big bullcrap bill, and he lowered taxes on the wealthiest
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  Speaker 6: citizens in our society, the wealthiest companies, and then he's
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  Speaker 6: borrowing more to go to a war in Iran. Or
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  Speaker 6: he's taking health care away from people who are disabled
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  Speaker 6: who deserve Medicaid. I think it's absolute insanity. It is
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  Speaker 6: such poor investing. And it's just sad to me that
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  Speaker 6: most people don't really understand that that's how the economy works.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think Trump is wrong by saying, or the
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  Speaker 1: Republicans are wrong saying, if you're 25 years old and
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  Speaker 1: of work age, that you shouldn't be able to sit
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  Speaker 1: on your ass and get Medicaid? That you've got to
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  Speaker 1: grow up and go get a job with benefits?
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  Speaker 6: Well, it would be Medicare. Do you know what it
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  Speaker 6: would be?
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  Speaker 1: No, it would not be Medicare. Medicare is only for
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  Speaker 1: the elderly. I'm talking Medicaid.
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  Speaker 5: You're right, Medicaid.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, you're right. Do you know what it takes to
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  Speaker 6: apply for Medicaid?
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  Speaker 1: I've never been on it, but this was the argument
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  Speaker 1: when they said, oh, he's taking away Medicaid from young people. No,
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  Speaker 1: they said merely you shouldn't be. He wasn't taking it
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: away from. There's a couple of things as I back up.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: They wanted to take away the additional supplements that the
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Democrats put in with a five-year time limit. frame on
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: it that the Democrats put in, that this should sunset
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: after five years during COVID. So during COVID, they weren't
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: supposed to come to win in. They weren't supposed to
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: be permanent. So it was a misconception to begin with.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: So consequently, it just went back to where it was
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: before the additional supplements were there.
• 18:31
  Speaker 6: I already explained to you why spending on health care
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: is a good investment. Spending on war is a bad investment.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Well, we're still spending on health care. We're just not
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: spending as much with the additional supplements that were put
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: there for COVID. It was not meant to be permanent.
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: People who are not on health care.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Well, is there personal responsibility in this society at all?
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Do you have any personal responsibility? I say this all
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: the time, and I would ask you this question. When
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I grew up, my father covered me with health care.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: When I became an adult, as he said, you either
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: find a job that has it or you go out
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: and buy it on your own. It's called growing up
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: and being personally responsible.
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: Don't you think?
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: I've got a really simple response to that.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: All right, stand by. I want to hear it when
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: I do my headlines, and I'll come back. And listen
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: to it right after this. NewsRadio 570 WKVN. Stay tuned.
• 19:17
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• 19:22
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• 19:26
  Speaker 1: May 22nd. Ron Verb, NewsRadio 570 WKVN from the kingdom
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: of Mahoning. Do you believe then that an individual should
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: have personal responsibility for their decisions and their behavior?
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, of course. I don't know anyone who would disagree
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: with that.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: All right. So, I mean, when you're talking about, see,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: you always make these things sound so vicious. So is
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: it wrong to say that a 25-year-old, as I said,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: as growing up, I don't know how your life worked,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: but you were probably covered by your parents' hospitalization. Then
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: as you got older, you either found a job that
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: had it or you went out and bought it. Those
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: were your options. It's called being an adult growing up.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: The argument was you can't sit at 25 years old,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: do nothing with your life, and expect the taxpayers on
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: an able-bodied young man or woman to pay for your
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: health care. Nor should we pay for it. At some point,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: you need to kick any ass in the personal responsibility.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Just as if you make bad decisions, you have to
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: suffer the consequences. If you choose to smoke and you
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: come down with heart disease or lung cancer, that isn't
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: my fault. That's a decision you made. And those consequences
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: will be suffered by you. I mean, I don't know
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: where you go with that type of mentality. Now, if
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: you're saying to me, would I would rather see my
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: tax dollars spent on my fellow Americans? Yes, as opposed
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: to any foreign country. That's where I agree with Massey completely.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: I am totally opposed to foreign aid. Because we've got
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: enough problems in this country. And I'm not opposed to
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: people getting unemployment because it means they were employed. I'm
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: not opposed to Social Security because it means you worked
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: and earned that. That's an earned benefit. I'm not opposed
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: to Medicare. It means you worked and you earned that.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: And I'm not even opposed to Medicaid for people that
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: are truly disabled and need that assistance and or benefits.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: We see many cases that are responsible people and they
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: lose everything because of being in a nursing home. I
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: fully understand that as well. As I say, everybody's one
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: bankruptcy away from one major illness away from bankruptcy. So
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I get all of that. I'm not opposed to that
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: type of spending. But the philosophy that you have that, oh,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: debt is good when it comes to government, it is
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: not good. When this much of your yearly tax dollars
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: coming in is going to pay the interest, that is
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: not good return on the money you're taking from your
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: citizens for the tax dollars. You're living beyond your means
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: as a country. At that point. And you can't continue
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: to do that. And grow it. Because as you grow
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: that debt. As the interest rates can go up. Then
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: that becomes your number one expense. Or the economy collapses.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: So no. You have to get rid of the debt.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: You don't put it on future generations. You don't act
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: like it's a good thing. We are having difficulties. Getting
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: rid of some of these T-bills. And bonds now. Countries
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: do go bankrupt. And they do go insolvent.
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: And I don't want to see that. Yeah, I completely agree.
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: I mean, America is making horrible investments right now. Right.
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: I mean, that's why the bond market is going down.
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: The dollar is going down. I mean, just in the
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: last year, it's, you know, 10, 10, 15, 20 percent
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: down the dollar.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: And there's concern about the petrodollar.
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: And Republicans are good. They prefer that. They don't think
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: that the dollar should be controlled by the government. The
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: dollar should be a free-floating private asset, basically. That's what
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: most conservatives think. That's why they favor a Bitcoin and
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: things like that. But I wanted to respond to you
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: about the personal responsibility of a 25-year-old I mean, yeah,
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: I completely agree. Yeah, if you're 25 years old and
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: you should be able to work, yeah, I don't think
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: you should qualify for Medicaid. You know, I mean, that's
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: why they have all those tests that you have to do,
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: forms you have to fill out, you have to prove
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: that you're not able to work. You know, and I
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: would kind of flip it on you and I would say, well,
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: doesn't our society have a responsibility to those people who
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: are injured? Like, let's say you have epilepsy. And you
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: can't be employed. Like, there's no..
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: It's a business owner, which I am.
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: A business owner has a responsibility to make money for
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: their business. So you can't hire someone who's disabled. You
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: can't just pay those people. Just out of the goodness
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: of your heart, that's irresponsible.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Nor am I saying..
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: Someone has to take care of those people. And I
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: believe it's all of us that have to do that.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Well, no, that is genuinely what's... OK, let's.
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: Talk about it. But this idea that it's like cut
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: and dry is just completely wrong.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: No, but that is what Medicaid is for.
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: Invest in war, invest in military, invest in weapons and
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: not invest in health care is one of the worst
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: investments I've ever heard of.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Well, can you invest, can you spend way too much
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: in a military industrial complex? I think we were warned
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: about that. And I think the answer to that obviously
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: is yes. I don't think you'll hear many people say to,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: when you talk about people that have serious health issues,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: if I can finish my thought, as I said to you,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: if somebody loses everything because they've had a stroke or
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: an ALS or something and end up in a nursing home,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: We're not going to put them out on the street.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: That is what these relief programs like Medicaid are for.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: They're being abused by people that are able-bodied that need
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: to go out and operate on their own. So I
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: don't think you get an argument from people.
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: Do you know anyone personally who's abusing it?
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, the answer to that is yes. Unfortunately, there are
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: plenty of people– well, I shouldn't say plenty. There are
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: those people that say– some might say it's smart, not dumb.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: They don't want to make additional money because if they do,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: they would lose their benefits. And as a result of that,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: it would cost them more money because they would have
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: to buy their benefits. But that is growing up, and.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: That is– Yeah, I agree.
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: We should get rid of all that stuff.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: All right. Well, that's– There's a saying, and you need
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: to learn it. Don't make your problems my problems.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Don't make your bad decisions my bad decisions. Don't reward
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: bad behavior.
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: The whole economy is going in the tank. It's insane.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: The people who are supporting this guy, they don't understand
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: what's going on.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Well, what's going on?
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: I'm here calling in to try to explain it to you.
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: You're still not listening.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm listening.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: So how is..
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: You say because of Trump, the whole economy is going
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: in a tank, and the reason for that is what?
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: Well, as I've already said, the dollar is down 10%
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: to 20% actively because he's destroying... Our international relationships, people
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: who have money in other countries are not really interested
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: in investing in America. We're just going to betray them,
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: stab them in the back.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: How do we do that?
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: Actively degrading our ability to act in the world. I
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: think it's, I think it's absolutely.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: How is he doing that? Do you think he was wrong?
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: Pushing away the Gulf states right now, Saudi Arabia is
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: not letting us fly over their country. They are one
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: of the most, the country most responsible for the success
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: in our stock market is Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar. They're
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: all pumping oil, and then the money they make on
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: that oil, they invest in the U.S. economy. That's called
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: the petrodollar. That is at serious risk. It's okay. I mean,
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: it might make sense to go away, like in the
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: grand scheme of things. I think that's probably a good thing.
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: But that will actively hurt our economy. And it is
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: actively hurting our economy right now.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Well, the stock market, as I say, there's a disconnect
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: between Wall Street and Main Street, seems to be doing
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: quite well. Record highs.
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: Which one? Main Street's doing well?
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: No, the stock market's been doing extremely well. I said
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: there's a disconnect between Main Street and the stock markets.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: Well, do you think that's good, that the stock market's
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: doing well and the Main Street's doing poor?
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think that's good at all. I think
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: there's a serious issue with what they call affordability and
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: the amount of taxes, people's money that's taken from them,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: the inflation that has taken place, the energy costs that
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: are out there. I don't think there's anything good about
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: that at all, and we're making life difficult. much more
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: difficult for our younger generation to achieve the American dream. So, no,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything good about that at all.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I prefer him to get back and focus on that.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: I want him to go back and focus on that.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: I believe in America first. I do not believe in
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: foreign aid. I do not care if these other countries
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: that you express. Well, I don't know that you're expressing
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: concern in that sense. I want them to hold countries
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: accountable if they say they're supposed to give this much
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: to NAO. Stop crapping on the United States of America,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: having us carry all the burden. You want to be
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: a part of it, you contribute to it. And we'll
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: leave it there. I appreciate your call, and onward we go.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: You're on the air. Hello? Well, maybe you're not there.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: Hello?
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: I think that was Ted the Conservative. I hung up on.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Call back right now. Call back right now. You're on
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: the air. You're on the air.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Hey, Ron. How are you? Good, Mike. Hey, that guy, boy,
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: what a tough listen. If he thinks, I mean, I'm
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: not sure what I heard, but I think he said
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: we could probably print our way to prosperity, not directly
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: like that, but indirectly. But that doesn't matter?
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: Is that what I heard?
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: No, he was saying that debt isn't always a bad thing,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: that in fact you had– that somebody's getting the interest
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: off the debt. It was a strange economic philosophy.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: They had a term for that in high school, which
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: I can't repeat. Well, I'm not going to even go
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: there then. All right.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: It doesn't even make sense, his whole entire argument.
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: You know, if..
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: If we're $ 80 trillion in debt, maybe prosperity will be
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: twice as much as it is now. His argument just
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: did not make sense.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense to me either because you're strapping
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: future generations. You cannot have this large portion of your
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: tax dollars going to pay interest.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: It's ridiculous.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: The only way that we're going to have higher prosperity
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: is to have higher productivity.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: That's the only way. And that's what..
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: And cut spending. We're not into the Bitcoin stuff. Yeah,
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: cut spending, absolutely. But higher productivity is going to lead
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: to a higher standard of living. And if we had,
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: our dollar was coupled with precious gold or silver, things
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: that are worth something, our government couldn't spend like this.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: When we went off the gold standard in the early 70s,
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: is when things started to really take off in terms
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: of the government having the ability to spend whatever they
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: wanted without any recourse. They've just pumped it all on
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: to future generations, which is not fair to the future generations.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: They have no voice in this debt.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: Now, I heard your opening monologue earlier, And I remember
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, Ted, you know, he was
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: really big on the, you know, calling people cult, cultish
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: and stuff like that. And it was the days that
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: he was not a, he didn't think Donald Trump could win,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: quote unquote. So he was, you know, using that manipulative
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: language to try to change minds. Well, you know, I've just,
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: I've listened to Ted kind of evolve on, on Trump
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: and he, You know, recently he's talked about just trust
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: in Trump. I trust Trump, right? Well, you know what?
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: I never did. He was the best choice of a
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: very weak group that he was running against. And as
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: of today, right now, and I told you this... When
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: he went after Massey, I wish he had gone after
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: the Democrats or the people that were actually barriers to
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: prosperity in this country. If he had gone after those
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: people as hard.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: As he did, Thomas Massey, maybe we.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't be talking about the Save America Act being stalled
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: in the Senate right now.
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: Maybe we'd be thrilled that it was passed.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: I just, you know, when Ted talks like that, I hear.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: That and I go like.
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: Man, did you forget.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Where you were?
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: The point that I was making, and I remember that.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: I was just trying to get the time frame on it.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Ted's call at that time, I can remember it. He
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: was merely talking. He was saying it's okay to disagree
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: with Trump and view things differently. He was merely saying
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: to me, I remember that call. that there is a cult,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: that there is like a cult that no matter what
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Trump does, you can't disagree with him. And he was
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: saying that that bothered him, that type of mentality. That
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: was a cult. I don't think, no, no, no, no, no.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: There's no way. Ted's a pretty smart guy. Here's what
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Ted says. Ted, in essence, says, It's okay for people
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: to disagree with the war. It's okay for people to
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: agree with the war. He might view it as something
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: worthwhile to do. I would have to ask him the
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: specifics of it. But he says, let's give it some time.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: And I do agree with one thing. These people obviously
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: know more than we do about what's going on. So
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: they get a little bit of the benefit of the doubt,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: but not all of it. I think they've also made some,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, some poor decisions. I would agree with.
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: That 100%, Ron.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: I don't think we're on the right track. And I think,
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: you know, probably going back a month or five weeks,
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: whenever this started, there were very few voices that were saying, hey,
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: Trump's going down the wrong path here. And Ted was
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: not one of them. Rich was not one of them.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: I know Frank was one of the voices, but..
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: You know who else was one? This might surprise everybody.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: G2 was not in favor of this.
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: No, no.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: I know he was not.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: I think you were in favor of it, but I
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: think you were listening.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: And I've seen.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: Your, you know, over the last, you know, five weeks.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: Four weeks, I've heard, I've seen, because.
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: I listen as much as anybody, Ron.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: Okay. I got to tell you, your show, it's great.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: If it wasn't, I wouldn't listen. But I've seen you,
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: your monologues have evolved. Your discussion with the callers has changed,
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: and I think it's, you know, I don't want to
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: sound arrogant or anything like that. I think it's in
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: a good, going in a good direction. Not that I
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: would be the judge of.
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: That, but I think in the end, we can't be
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: at war and have... we can have artificial prosperity, you know,
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: war economy is artificial.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Eventually that bill is going to be, that's that, that bill,
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: that check's going to come due. And, you know, we're at.
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: The end here, you and I, I don't want to
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: see our kids, right.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: All this dumped on our kids. And that's why I
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: get so, um, I guess upset about, you know, the
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: direction that we're going, you know, that, If you think
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: you're going to fix this country by throwing people like
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  Speaker 3: Thomas Massey out of office, you have no idea what
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  Speaker 3: this country is about. That's where I'm at.
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  Speaker 1: I totally agree with that entire statement. Thank you, Mike.
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  Speaker 6: Have a safe weekend.
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  Speaker 1: You too.
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  Speaker 5: Ronald.
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  Speaker 1: Ted the Conservative.
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  Speaker 4: I've heard my name a few times, so I figured
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: I'd give a call.
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  Speaker 1: Did I enunciate or give the correct scenario about when
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: you were talking, this goes back a while, about cults?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes.
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  Speaker 4: And that doesn't mean I don't support them, but many
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: things could be true at the same time. I do believe,
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: let's go back 10 years. I remember when G2 and
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: I would have strong disagreements because I didn't agree with
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: everything that Trump said. And I still don't. I told you,
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: I've learned how to internally process that stuff and filter
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: out all the garbage he says. And in full transparency,
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: I think his second presidency, his second term has been
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: a failure so far. And I don't think he's doing
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: the things that we elected him to do. I think
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: he's made this more of a retribution tour. I don't
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: like the slush fund. I strongly disagree with people that
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: have said it's okay for him to do what he's
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: doing with the Department of Justice. I mean, let's be honest.
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  Speaker 4: Like you said yesterday, if Joe Biden brought his personal
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: attorney in and did this stuff, we'd be losing our minds.
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: If you want to protect your family, there's a way
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: to do it. So don't circumvent it. Just be a man,
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: put your big boy panties on, and issue pardons to
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: all your family members and your businesses for crimes that
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: may have been committed, knownly or unknowingly, for the last
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: 25 years. Do what Biden did. This slush fund is
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: just a horrible, horrible thing. And I think that's why
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: you're seeing the backlash from the Republicans because now we're
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: in a, we're in a fight for our life in
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: these primaries and he keeps giving the opposition fire fuel
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: to put on the fire. You know, he's lost focus.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: I think of the, of the primaries because every decision
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: he's made is going against us and making that hill
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: that we're trying to climb steeper and steeper. But you,
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: you gave a good analogy of my, my beliefs on Trump.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, I, You know where I stand. We've
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: been talking about him for a long time. It doesn't
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  Speaker 4: mean I don't support him.
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  Speaker 1: But you were the first guy, and oddly enough, I
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: remember this call. And we had a disagreement that day.
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  Speaker 1: I can remember it specifically. You were the first guy
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  Speaker 1: who said to me, Ron, there is a Trump cult.
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  Speaker 1: There are people that if you don't adhere to everything
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: he adheres to, then you're bad news even though you're
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: a Republican or you disagree. There is that fraction of
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: the Trump supporters. And I think you and I argued
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  Speaker 1: about it that day. And you are 100% correct about that.
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  Speaker 1: a minute. Ron Furman, NewsRadio 570, WKBN. Stay close.