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  Speaker 1: Let's talk some Tar Heel football.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 1: Our next guest covers the Heels. If you're a Heels fan,
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  Speaker 1: I am sure you are aware of his work. He's
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  Speaker 1: got great insight and information on all things tar Heels.
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  Speaker 1: He is Andrew Jones with Tar Heel twenty four to
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  Speaker 1: seven dot com and he joins us here on the
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  Speaker 1: Mac and Bone Show in Charlotte. Andrew, what's going on, man?
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  Speaker 1: How you doing?
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  Speaker 2: What's up? Guys doing all right? Getting ready to kickoff football?
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  Speaker 2: About nine days? First practices in nine days, so nice,
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  Speaker 2: and we'll get the first of four availabilities before the
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  Speaker 2: season starts, so you know, we're ready to the card shops.
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  Speaker 1: There you go, baby, use the use your questions wisely,
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  Speaker 1: all right? And those four availabilities, yeah, don't use them
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  Speaker 1: all at once. On Belijack what okay? So Belichick had
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  Speaker 1: some interesting things to say Friday at me at ACC
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  Speaker 1: kickoff here in Charlotte. And the one thing that he
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  Speaker 1: said in the ACC Network interview and with y'all in
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  Speaker 1: the media was he feels very confidently their head of
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  Speaker 1: last year just because of continuity, right, they've had carry over,
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  Speaker 1: there's no spring transfer portal. He's had the quarterbacks actually there.
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  Speaker 1: Do you expect, like, do you feel like that shows
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  Speaker 1: at the start? Can they? I mean, they can't get
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  Speaker 1: off to a worse start than last year. Do you
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  Speaker 1: do you think they're ready to get off to a
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  Speaker 1: better start than last season?
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  Speaker 2: I would say that there is the difference between their
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  Speaker 2: level of organization and the staff understanding what they have
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  Speaker 2: and where they are, and the process in time couldn't
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  Speaker 2: be more different than it was it is right now
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  Speaker 2: from a year ago. So I've been pitching that for
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  Speaker 2: a while because my conversations with the program started two
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  Speaker 2: days after the NC State game, where somebody in the
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  Speaker 2: program acknowledged to me that the staff realized during the
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  Speaker 2: season that they didn't know everything that they thought they
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  Speaker 2: knew about college football, that there were enough differences that
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  Speaker 2: Belichick ands and people in the program had to look
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  Speaker 2: in the mirror and had to be honest with themselves
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  Speaker 2: about some things. And I think that that's pretty significant
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  Speaker 2: because they don't mind that getting out. They don't mind
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  Speaker 2: a seventy four year old with six Super Bowl rings
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  Speaker 2: having it get out that he looked in the mirror
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  Speaker 2: and had to recognize where he was going wrong and
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  Speaker 2: what he didn't understand, and he kind of alluded to
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  Speaker 2: that a little bit last week and a couple of
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  Speaker 2: times a few times we've been around him since last
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  Speaker 2: season ended. I've gotten this sense that he's giving us
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  Speaker 2: a little bit more straight answers with some things. And
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  Speaker 2: he said that back in the spring as well, about how, hey, look,
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  Speaker 2: they had to figure some things out, they had to
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  Speaker 2: learn some things. Then you throw on top of it
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  Speaker 2: the continuity factor that you just brought up, and they
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  Speaker 2: are way ahead of where they were this time of
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  Speaker 2: year ago. But I will caution people that doesn't mean
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  Speaker 2: it's going to translate to wins on the field. I
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  Speaker 2: think you'll see a better product, a more polished product.
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  Speaker 2: I think you'll see them make better adjustments. Last year,
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  Speaker 2: in the TCU game, they started a true freshman at
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  Speaker 2: left tackle. He played twenty four snaps that night and
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  Speaker 2: played like fifteen the rest of the year. Demon June
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  Speaker 2: was their seventh string running back that night. He ended
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  Speaker 2: up being the starting running back. But within two weeks,
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  Speaker 2: so they understand what they're looking at right now a
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  Speaker 2: lot more than they did a year ago.
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  Speaker 3: And you're on paper you're talking about maybe not translating
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  Speaker 3: to the wins per se, but looking better. The schedule's different.
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  Speaker 3: How much more difficult is a schedule this year than
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  Speaker 3: it was last year? At least on paper.
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  Speaker 4: Entering the season, well, on paper it was all we
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  Speaker 4: had to go by. Nobody thought Virginia was going to
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  Speaker 4: be as good as it was last year, or even Duke,
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  Speaker 4: so they the schedule looked very manageable this time of
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  Speaker 4: year ago. It turned out to be a little bit
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  Speaker 4: more difficult. Right now it looks really difficult. There's a
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  Speaker 4: chance maybe it won't end up that way. But if
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  Speaker 4: you just look ahead at twelve games, a gosh, off
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  Speaker 4: the top of.
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  Speaker 2: My head, how many do you think they're going to win?
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  Speaker 2: Right for sure? And you say one he studis the state,
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  Speaker 2: Then you figure they should be able to beat Syracuse,
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  Speaker 2: And then it gets a little dicey with others. Not
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  Speaker 2: that they can't win those games, but you can't just
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  Speaker 2: puncle them in with a tremendous amount of confidence because
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  Speaker 2: the last time we saw this team play football game
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  Speaker 2: under most of this staff, it was not a pretty sight.
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  Speaker 2: And they don't exactly have eye popping count. They have
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  Speaker 2: four players total on the preseason all ECC ballot so
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  Speaker 2: it's not just fans and others that look at this
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  Speaker 2: roster and say man one of the stars. A lot
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  Speaker 2: of people are. David Hale put out his preseason takes
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  Speaker 2: as Carolina eighteenth, and he's basically saying, where are the players?
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  Speaker 2: So we will find out there are probably really good
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  Speaker 2: players there that people don't know about, because that seems
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  Speaker 2: to be the thing in college football now. But right now,
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  Speaker 2: looking ahead, it's hard to see them guaranteeing it's hard
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  Speaker 2: to guarantee a certain number of wins after a couple.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Andrew Jones is with us talking tar heels right
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  Speaker 1: here on the Mack and Bone Show tar Heel twenty
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  Speaker 1: four to seven dot com. Andrew, let's talk about the
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  Speaker 1: quarterback position. I mean, do you feel is this wide open?
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  Speaker 1: How many are truly have a chance to start? Is it?
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  Speaker 1: Is it really just two? Three? Are all four involved
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  Speaker 1: in the mix? What are your thoughts on that QB battle?
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  Speaker 2: I think they're gonna look at all four legitimately for
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  Speaker 2: different reasons. One, I would say Travis Burgess at some
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  Speaker 2: point went healthy because he's the most talented guy in
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  Speaker 2: the room. But he's he wasn't how he injured his
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  Speaker 2: ACL at the beginning of last season. He wasn't one
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  Speaker 2: hundred percent during the spring. We don't know exactly where
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  Speaker 2: he is in that respect right now. But the other
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  Speaker 2: thing that's been pushed behind the scenes, and that I've
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  Speaker 2: been told by the program since last December, is that
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  Speaker 2: they're really looking at twenty twenty seven. If you start
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  Speaker 2: to talk to people in the around the athletic department
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  Speaker 2: and the program, they Golchick isn't trying to win big
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  Speaker 2: right now. He would love to win big right now,
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  Speaker 2: but he's trying to build a foundation. And part of
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  Speaker 2: bringing in forty freshmen and a lot of young other
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  Speaker 2: transfers that maybe didn't play a ton at other schools
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  Speaker 2: is that they're pitching development hard and they're pushing toward
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven. So if you're aiming at twenty twenty seven, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Billy Edwards seems like the obvious guy right now, but
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  Speaker 2: not the twenty seven component that would be somebody else
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  Speaker 2: because he'll be gone. So I do think all four
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  Speaker 2: quarterbacks are going to get really good looks. But I
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  Speaker 2: do also think that when day one starts next Thursday,
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  Speaker 2: that Billy Evers will be QB one at that time.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, we've talked to people associated with him say
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  Speaker 2: that he's been told that.
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  Speaker 3: Andrew, what would you say a successful season would be
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  Speaker 3: for the Tals team.
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  Speaker 4: I would say number one, no drama and it's gonna start.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean, that's it, because that was the story
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  Speaker 2: last year. That week after the week after Clemson was
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  Speaker 2: bigger than what Clemson did in the first quarter of
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  Speaker 2: that game. So they you've got to avoid the drama.
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  Speaker 2: Number one. Number two, they have to look competent. It
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  Speaker 2: has to everything that we're being told behind the scenes
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  Speaker 2: that they are way ahead of where they were a
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  Speaker 2: year ago. A lot of things were learned. They have
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  Speaker 2: to look like it on the field. At number three,
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  Speaker 2: they're going to have to win at least four games.
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  Speaker 2: And I've talked to people in the athletic department that
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  Speaker 2: would play a role in making decisions, and they're not
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  Speaker 2: too worried about win numbers right now. No one's going
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  Speaker 2: to give you a win number, but they will say
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  Speaker 2: you've got They've got to show significant improvement. They have
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  Speaker 2: to show that this thing is pushing in the right direction,
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  Speaker 2: which could lead towards twenty and twenty seven outbreak Andrew.
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  Speaker 1: I know you're real sourced in obviously with the program.
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  Speaker 1: Do you feel like when you hear nationally all to
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  Speaker 1: talk about at about Belichick, it's like, Oh, is he
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  Speaker 1: going to survive? Is he coaching for his job? Do
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  Speaker 1: you feel but yet he goes out They go out
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  Speaker 1: there and they bring in the forty freshmen that you
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  Speaker 1: talked about this big freshman class and talk about building
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  Speaker 1: you know, with young players. Do you feel like, is
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  Speaker 1: he coaching for his job? Is there a world where
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  Speaker 1: he gets fired after this year? Or do you think
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  Speaker 1: there's at least another year to his leash there? What
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  Speaker 1: do you think?
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  Speaker 2: I think there are two things at play here. Number one,
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  Speaker 2: if he goes to a season where they go to
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  Speaker 2: and ten and there's more chaos and lot of narratives
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  Speaker 2: are about things not on the field because people are
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  Speaker 2: looking for stuff like that, how much more does he
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  Speaker 2: want to do it? That would be one question. The
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  Speaker 2: other one would be that again they're not looking at
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  Speaker 2: win numbers right now. There's the athletic departments view of this.
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  Speaker 2: Let's have patience. This guy is a legend for a reason.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see if he can figure it out. We're North
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  Speaker 2: Carolina we've spent the last one hundred and twenty years
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  Speaker 2: trying to figure it out. What's another year or two? Essentially?
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  Speaker 1: I like that.
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  Speaker 3: I like that all right.
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  Speaker 1: He is Andrew Jones. Everybody, you know, he's going to
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  Speaker 1: have you locked in on football stuff, basketball stuff. There's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of great basketball stuff that he has pumped
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  Speaker 1: out here too recently as well. AJ Tarheel two four
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  Speaker 1: seven on Twitter. That is his handle tar Heel twenty
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  Speaker 1: four to seven dot com. Andrew, You're great man, Thank
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  Speaker 1: you so much. Appreciate you.
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys. Take care enough