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Stark Raving Dad (revisited) · Four Finger Discount (Simpsons Podcast)

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  You seemed like a nice guy. Why'd they put you in here? Because
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  they were a pink shirt? I understand people thought I was crazy for the
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  way I dressed. What'd you wear? One white glove covered with Ryan Stars?
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  Four Finger Discount, dude, Welcome to four Finger Discount, where this
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  week we're here to review an episode that's no longer exists. Stuck raving Dad.
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  I'm Dando, and I am the big white guy who thinks he's the
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  little black guy. No, just call me guy. You do like your
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  soul and everything? Now that, yeah? I do. Indeed, what
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  jazz instrument would you play if you were a jazz musician? Because you're a
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  very Miles Davis Askue fan, aren't you? I am so. I like
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  to think I would be a trumpet guy, although a sax guy would not
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  be bad either. DP of pants, that's the question. I was peeing
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  my pants before it was cool? Yeah? Yeah, Wor's we all well?
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  And we'll get you to continue to do so after it stopped for Yeah?
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  Yeah? Yeah. What was the point where you realize I don't care
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  if I'm not cool anymore. I'm waiting way past that now. But there
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  is a point I think it's maybe in your like mid to late twenties where
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  you go, I'm no longer like you go out to a night club.
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  I think it's the first thing to go to a nightclub and you realize these
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  people are like ten years younger than me. I'm the old guy to them.
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  Now, that's where you start going. I give a ship. Yeah,
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  it took a little while beyond the twenties. It was my thirties.
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  Yeah, I think when I because I think when I became a dad,
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  it was for me. I'm a dad now, so it's okay to be
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  uncol when you're a dad, right, Oh I imagine. So yeah,
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  so I don't have kids, so I'm what's your excuse. I'm constantly searching
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  for validation from the young generation. Have I got the Riz kids? I've
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  got the Riz right, and the future is now old man? Yeah,
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  no, no, you're right. Oh yeah, I'd probably be a trumpet
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  player, maybe a saxonist. The Lovely Louise's youngest son, musical prodigy Felix,
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  recently got his own saxophone over the weekend. He was very happy with
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  It's got inscriptions on it and up here hearing his infernal tootling on it.
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  I was like, oh man, I mean I wish I was more musical.
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  I mean, I clearly have a lovely singing voice. As listeners of
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  the podcast will know, that was a juke FIV see tune. There's plenty
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  of them. But no, I think I I like, I like the
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  idea of a trump but it just seems like a small compact instrument. You
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  know, you're not having to lug a whole. But you mean you a
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  tuba player, Nicholas A saxophonist. Is that a saxophonist? Saxophone saxophonist,
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  saxophonists. Yeah, she's writer. Remember she's great at it. Yeah,
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  she plays a lion because when she was the first thing she learned was to
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  play the Lion king songs on the saxophone. Yeah, she created it,
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  so you'll you'll get the occasional hakuna matata. Yeah. Wow, she's very
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  musical. Nicola, very very very talented. My wife, as is your
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  your lovely Louise your part, Well, her great talent was finding a good
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  boyfriend. Now you know who was very talented and still is is the Al
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  Jean, the Simpsons showrunner. Look you're about to say, Michael Jackson's like,
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  is there something you know that? And Mike Reese, who took over
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  from the show at the beginning of season three. This was their first episode
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  that went to air. They people fans of The Simpsons say that the Golden
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  Era started with this episode with season three. However, unfortunately, after they
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  is of Finding Neverland, the documentary they came out a few years ago.
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  I think that's what it's called, maybe Leaving Leaving Neverland, the movie is
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  Finding It, that's right, Leaving Neverland came out, and all the allegations
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  that Michael Jackson with you know, we've all we all know that the details
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  which had been circulating for a fair while before that documentary came out before these
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  two young men in particular went on the record. Yeah, there's a reason
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  they called him wacko Jacko, right, and then Al Jean I'm sure Mike
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  Reese as well, but Al Jean's one went on the recorder saying, we
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  took this out of circulation. This episode no longer available on streaming or on
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  free to air what you call it our syndication, Yeah, because we or
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  he believes that Michael Jackson used this episode to groom kids and when I had
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  never seen this until you sent it to me in preparation for this episode.
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  I never thought about it that way. I've always seen it as a bit
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  of a tragedy that this episode has been taken off the air because of it
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  felt like a snap judgment. All this documentary is coming out, we don't
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  want to be affiliated with it. Let's pull the episode. We don't want
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  the Simpsons to be thrown in like Michael Jackson was once on The Simpsons.
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  Let's quick, let's pull it away from circulation. He has gone on the
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  record it was worth the Daily Beast, the interview al Jean where he says,
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  I have no proof, it's just my gut feeling that he would have
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  used this to groom kids. I'm not saying he's right or wrong. It's
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  still a shame to we've lost the episode, but I can understand now why
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  it no longer exists because the guy who created it feels dirty. Oh yeah,
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  it feels complicit, and it's a shame that that happened. I was
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  surprised there's anyone to read that piece. By all that interview with Algene,
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  I hadn't really heard about it until I'll just the link for the interview in
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  the description of this because it's not all about that, but they use that
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  as the headline. Let's hook you in with this, that's right. I
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  think the reporter who did it it is a bit of a Marck breaker.
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  And yes, I'm not a huge fan, but yeah, the gist of
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  that article is about season three and about the sort of the birth of the
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  Golden age of the Simpsons. Yeah, but this is certainly comes up.
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  And Algae is not the only guy to talk about it. I mean James
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  L. Brooks has also gone on the record and saying, look, I'm
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  not for book burning, I'm not for censorship, but I think of it
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  as this is our book. I created it, and we're entitled to take
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  a chapter out of it if we choose to do so. Clear they chose
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  to do so. Now there's still a means to get access to the episode.
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  I'm holding up here, as you'll see, if you're watching this show
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  right now, hold up to the camera the season three box set. And
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  it was so lovely to pull out the box set. It felt like,
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  and I know all the othergations that are going around. I understand why it's
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  to the episode off, but it was so nice putting this episode, and
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  I think I've watched it for ten fifteen years. It was like seeing an
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  old friend, as weird as that may sound, because it's got the whole
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  MJA sort of taint to it now, but I just went, oh,
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  it's write this episod, So it's like rediscovering it again. I hadn't watched
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  it for so long, and it's just a shame that, Like, for
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  example, Alliott now he started watching The Simpsons a bit bit more often,
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  younger generations now won't really know the episode exist unless their parents say this one
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  exists too. Then it might be incumbent on parents and say, oh,
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  they may say why can't I see it on Disney Plus or why can't I
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  see it? And by any other means, and then you've got to but
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  then you've got all the other They put a little stinger at the start of
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  a Laddin and things like that, saying that doesn't reflect us. But I
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  guess there's nothing in the episode that reflects poorly. As how the episode they
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  he al Jean and James Brooks feel it might have been used. That's why
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  they've taken it down. So it's a different Yeah, that's right. I
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  mean, there's no sort of retrograde racism, no tobacco depictions, seeing a
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  lot of a lot of tobacco depictions in front of recent episodes of certain things.
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  I don't have the box set that you do. I had to obtain
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  my copy of Star Graving dad By. Well let's say it rhymes with Birasy.
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  Well there's a guy. I can't remember who it was, but could
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  I posted about it on our Twitter at four finger pot if you want to
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  follow us on Twitter because you can't follow us on Facebook anymore. This is
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  still happening at four figure discount on Instagram as well. And we're gonna get
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  into TikTok happening at four finger discount on TikTok's well, that's all right,
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  there's a we're ticking now. We're talking fifty something year old man on TikTok.
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  That's what the kids are tuning, ol Gene, we'll not be watching
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  what was I? He put the full episode on Twitter because Twitter is this
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  is a free for all now, there's no copyright, there's nothing, so
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  you can watch it for a friend on Twitter. If you just said a
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  lot of things are coming up on Twitter it's like, you'll see this posting.
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  Oh fuck it, here's the full movie of such and such. It
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  just came out, so you know it'll be on pirate bayeah and I'm just
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  uploaded to Twitter hang around forever. It's crazy. Here's the whole movie of
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  the flash. I'm like, I've got no desire to watch this, but
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  what it's there? Yeah, daddy, elon, you're not taking it down.
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  What's going on? Freedom of speech, baby, that's true. Piracy
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  be star grabbing. Dad. Do you think it's sad that it's been removed
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  from circulation. It's sad, but it's understandable. I think it's probably the
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  best way to put it right. Going back to what mister Brooks said.
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  You look, they wrote the book they're in told to take a chapter out
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  of it. I think for a show that is ostensibly a family show,
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  yeah, it may raise too many awkward questions. And I understand where el
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  Gene is coming from as well in that feeling and complicity that they may have
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  had something to do with the grooming of children. Yeh, the grooming of
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  children. And you don't want your name attached to that, I mean,
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  you just it would give you the ick but I had never heard anybody throw
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  that out there until he pitched that. So if he had never said that,
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  would you have ever assumed that, would you ever have gone, you
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  know what? He might have used this to groomed children. Was that mentioned
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  in the doco? I don't think it was. Was it? I don't
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  think so. No, I mean I can recall anyway. No, No,
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  I mean I remember watching the Neverland documentary when it came out. I
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  wrote a piece about it for or for the Music magazine when I was doing
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  my column for that didn't sound of like a debunk. I was saying they
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  met at a certain place, and that place wasn't built at the time in
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  which they said it was going to be there or something. I think you
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  had a lot of amateur sleuths going, well, this doesn't add up,
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  and this doesn't scan. There's no wind on the moon. It really felt
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  like grasping its straws in a lot of ways. I'm kind of inclined to
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  take certain allegations and certain accusations with a bit of a grain of salt and
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  until I get as much evidence as possible. Watching the evidence of these two
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  about to say young men, I mean they're still relatively young. I guess
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  when they were being interviewed for this docer, it's like, I'm one hundred
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  percent buying this. You can't, Well, you weren't there, so you
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  can't. Yeah. But these particular recollections and the way they expressed themselves,
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  the way they what they recollected, how they how they expressed that precise.
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  This feels very very precise, very authentic, very authentic. It very lived
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  in. Yeah. So this interview where he said about the glooming of children
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  was twenty nineteen. I don't think he'd said it beforehand, because when did
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  the docco come out Finding Neverland or Leaving Neverland? Sorry, hold to be
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  sometime in the I want to say, maybe twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen,
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  Leaving Neverland twenty nights. It was the same year, twenty five years ago.
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  I thought it was a lot longer than that. Time keeps on slipping
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  into the future. Man. But there's another point in the interview though,
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  where he the interviewer asks about how Michael Jackson because he wrote the Happy Birthday
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  Lisa's song, great song. I love the song, one of my favorite
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  Simpsons songs. It's a shame that won't get used anymore, heard anymore.
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  But he brings up the do you think there was something to the first kiss
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  from a boy? I'm thinking you're really trying to find something here that's that's
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  great, that's big strung, that's and I think al Jenevan said maybe.
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  I was like, no, no, no, no, no no,
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  that's just it felt like a year ten student trying to like overanalyze a film
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  for an essay. You know, it's he wrote us that it fits the
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  song. He wasn't trying to hide a hidden agender about loving boys in this
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  song. It was just he was. It rhymes with joy, it rhymes
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  with joy, and it's yeah, girls think about their first kiss from a
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  boy in not Anymore. But you know, in nineteen ninety two, what
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  when this air? Yeah? Ever since Katie Perry, it's all about kissing
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  girls. What's going on? Yeah? I don't think Michael Jackson spent hours
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  and hours coming up with the lyrics to Happy Birthday Lisa. I'm pretty sure
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  this was sort of dashed up on the back of the napkin. It felt
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  like it didn't really, but that was the charm to it, because that's
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  what was supposed to have been sure, I guess up or not writing it,
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  but anyway, Yeah, But overall though, I really enjoyed going back
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  and revisiting this episode. There's a lot that goes into the behind the scenes
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  of it. It's really really interesting. So Matt Granning says that he was
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  working back late at the office one night, which I'm sure I believe that
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  back Granny been the end of one back up the office working the way.
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  But anyway, so he says, and the phone rings, and it's Michael
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  Jackson saying I'd love to be a guest on the show. First of all,
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  I'm not sure Michael Jackson would just call up, but you know,
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  he says, that's what happened. It makes for a good story, and
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  that he wanted to be a guest and took me about a minute before he
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  actually believed him, which is what they did in the show with Bart refusing
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  to leave Leon until after about a minute or so. Absolutely, but yeah,
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  Michael Jackson calling up in the middle of the night. Can I be
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  speaking Mad Green? I'm a big fan of Simpsons. Yeah, I'm not
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  sure I buy that, but that's the story they're going with. Anyway.
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  Have you watched that documentary about the making of We Other World. It's on
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  Netflix at the moment. I've seen clips of it. There was like three
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  weeks of negotiations and phone calls and contracts and all this kind of stuff to
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  actually get that going on. I doubt very much that Michael Jackson, as
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  you said, is calling up at the middle of the night give me the
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  number for the Simpsons HQ the Rat's Room. My apologies to anyone who's a
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  big MJ fan me doing this god awful impersonation. Later on I to do
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  prints, but yeah, it strikes me as very print the legend that Matt
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  Granning would say, first of all, I was working late in the office
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  one night. No, not happening. Secondly, then it's Michael Jackson.
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  He's like, no, it's not happening. But let's cut out all the
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  did asking who his last four dates of the Grammys were the one as well,
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  So okay, we've got mutually issued distraction. But he did apparently he
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  did say to Matt that or one of the one of the workers that he
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  wants to give bart a number one single. So he wrote, do the
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  Bartman. Really, Michael Jackson won't do the butt man. I didn't know
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  that. Really, I did not know that. Yeah, yep, he
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  did. He is the He is the writer of Everybody you can do the
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  Bartman. That was Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson, I'm on that bit from
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  south Park now, I know we touched him. Children. It's Michael Jackson,
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  a taxon, It's Michael Jackson. If you if you enjoy south Park,
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  check out out going down to south Park podcast and all your good podcast
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  platforms. But apparently his conditions were he couldn't sing. He could do the
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  spoken dialogue, but for some legal reasons, he could do the singing.
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  But they said when they did the first run through, he did sing the
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  songs and did everything, and they there's a there's a rumor going around that
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  he recorded his versions of Happy Birthday Lisa and all the other songs like Ben
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  when he sings Home, and at the last minute they were replaced with the
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  mj Ones. So we'll never know because they had Kick Lemon as the impersonate
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  answer. But apparently the sound guy has said no, no, that that
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  never happened. I was like, go with that man, Why ruined that
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  dream? Everybody? Just let's get our story straight. Yeah, yeah,
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  don't don't ruin this legend. You know, just if the legend was that
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  Michael Jackson wasn't allowed to at the last minute, he slipped it in the
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  last second, that make him cool? Are we glad to say that he
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  was he was talented as a musician. Yeah, it's just it's weird.
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  It's weird as it been long enough. Now we can sort of talk about
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  him as a as a talent. Or Yeah, this is something we were
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  talking about the other day, wasn't it, because we started talking about various
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  canceled individuals. Yeah, and how Yeah, sadly, there are a lot
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  out there who were very, very good at what they did. This is
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  probably why they were able to reach positions of influence or power where either they
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  were able to commit misdeeds or their misdeeds could be swept under the rug.
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  Yeah. I mean a lot of people who are now regarded as monsters being
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  punished for their crimes were actually pretty good at what they did. Or it's
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  a I think we're talking sations. We were talking about the people who are
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  associated with them. So for example, people saying we can't watch that movie
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  anymore, but what about all the people that were working on that film who
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  put their blood, sweat and tears into their role or behind the camera or
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  whatever it was of writing the movie. Now all their hard work is forgotten
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  about because of one individual. It's it's a weird thing to it really is.
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  Yeah, I'm not a fan of a cancelation for that. For that
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  reason, It's like, I don't hire them going forward, but let's not
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  cancel everything that they were in previously, because that means everyone else who worked
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  on that project as well vantalized. That's right, yeah, as have we.
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  I think someone with the magnitude of talent and influence and I guess reach
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  that Michael Jackson had is never going to be holy forgotten and there's always going
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  to be an asterisk next to their name. It's like Thriller, you know,
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  biggest album of the nineteen eighties, Michael Jackson, you know, incredible
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  run of Grammy Wins and all this kind of business. Also accused of Mollestone
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  Couch. I did love the story of they did the run through at Michael
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  Jackson's manager's house, and so they said the first thing they've been through is
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  to Michael Jackson. The second time they were there, to a lot record
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  or whatever, on the second run through, and his other guy just walks
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  in, Kip Lemon. It's sings of songs and I didn't tell the sims
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  of stuff that was gonna happen. That was sort of going it is where
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  you sing, and Michael Jackson just sat there silently, and this Kip leman
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  just bought into the room as I was singing the songs, and they're like,
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  this is weird, what's going on here? I would appreciate their heads
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  up on this one, Mike. Apparently Dave caslen Netta was twenty minutes late
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  to it as well. Oh boy, which doesn't help. No, but
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  yeah, I would have loved if he if he's even if his versions were
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  available somewhere, I'd love to hear him singing the Lissa in It's such a
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  happy song, you know it is. It is very nice. I think
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  when you got to when you've got a sister, I got a sister,
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  you want them to be happy. I do. Having said this, bitches,
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  no, no, my beloved sister Margot, who probably does not listen
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  to this podcast, I missed your birthday, Margo. You missed it.
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  I did. It was Saturday and I still haven't gotten in touch. I'm
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  sorry, my mom, Are you serious? You've realized you forgotten? So
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  are you just scared to get in touch now? Or what do you do?
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  Is it a case of your trying to think of a present. It's
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  like memento I'm remembering every twenty minutes. That's like call Margot. And I
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  was like, but I've got other stuff to do. I've got to record
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  this podcast. I've got other stuff to do. Well, I know,
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  as soon as we're done here, I'll be calling Margot. She's just sitting
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  there. Happy birthday, Margo. She's just sit at the kitchen table the
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  party had on Happy Birthday, gotten a bit of charm. My mom came
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  by the other day and said, now, were you sick on the weekend?
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  I said, no, no, lose had COVID. But now i'm
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  more aker because you missed Margot's birthday. You didn't call Margot. I'm like,
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  she must have complained to Margaret. Mary's mum was probably like, how
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  did you hear? Remember? What did I get you? Yeah? Well
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  you took her presence? No not really, really, you're a shit brother.
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  Get me presents? Really? No? No, we're just more like,
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  have a call, send a card, milestone birthdays cards are insulting to
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  me. I'm not a fan of greeting cards and birthday cards when you're a
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  little kid, so be it. But I don't know, just a waste
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  of money. You can just write that message. Do you kick the cards?
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  Not all? No, I don't know. Just nick Nickola is my
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  wife for you viewers and listeners, a huge fan of the card. If
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  I don't get her a card, she's really really sad. I've just never
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  cared. I just I just feel I'm spend an extra five bucks on my
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  present. Please, I don't want a card. I wholly understand where you're
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  coming from. I mean, I'm not necessarily someone who's like you forgot my
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  birthday or where's my card? Or where's my friends? This may and this
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  will lead into something I want to talk about in just a sec. But
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  I do feel bad that I haven't contacted her at the very least. I
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  mean, I think we're we will reach the stage because I mean, I'm
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  the youngest and I'm in my fifty As as long as you feel bad,
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  that's all matters. That is all that about. Now here's what I wanted
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  to talk about with this with this episode. One thing that I didn't really
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  like. I don't like people putting pressure on someone to celebrate their birthday.
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  I thought the same as well. I get that Lisa has been forgotten time
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  and time again by Bart, but it just felt a bit much of going,
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  well, I'm discerning you now you're no longer my brother. It felt
• 19:25
  a bit over the I get it, she's eight, I've got I've wrote
• 19:26
  my notes. I understand she's over dramatic. She's eight years old, so
• 19:30
  you can understand an eight year old wild feel this way. If an eight
• 19:32
  year old had their birthday forgotten, you can imagine they would respond this way.
• 19:34
  But I didn't feel like you're pushing it. It's like I never got
• 19:37
  my sister or present. When I was ten. My parents got a present
• 19:41
  for my sister. I helped to pick it out or whatever, but expecting
• 19:44
  Bart to get her a present. But I guess she only wanted one,
• 19:45
  even it was just made, but she just didn't really want He didn't want
• 19:48
  to give her a present. Yeah, I'd realize that it has to happen
• 19:52
  for the events of the story to unravel as they do. Unfold as they
• 19:56
  do. It's also if they had nothing to do, nothing for it to
• 19:59
  do. That's right, Yeah, that's right. So for her to be
• 20:03
  constantly pushing and almost committing this emotional blackmail, when did you shut up?
• 20:07
  Put a lot of shit going on your Mark Jackson coming to the house.
• 20:11
  But did margin Homer forget as well? I don't think they did. We
• 20:15
  never see them give her a present. I'm trying. I'm trying to remember
• 20:18
  the timeline of this episode, or when is her actual birthday? It's when,
• 20:22
  it's not when they it's when Leon shows up. I think, well,
• 20:25
  it must be when he shows up. It's not the morning they sing
• 20:29
  the song. That's that's late, isn't it. Yeah, that's right.
• 20:30
  So the morning of the following day or something. I can't recall. I
• 20:33
  just know she's sitting at the at the kitchen table crying. My favorite what
• 20:38
  are you favorite moments in the episode? I think they were more Homer related
• 20:41
  than anything else. I've only eve betten one here because obviously was just entralled
• 20:45
  with the episode. But I just love that. That's one of my favorite
• 20:48
  gifts of all time. I did enjoy Homer watching funny his own video.
• 20:53
  Yeah, don't gone Fire, Don't go fire, cracky up at doc fire,
• 20:57
  look at him like the dog on fire. But that was there was
• 21:02
  once upon a time when a funny Stone videos was a thing, don't I
• 21:06
  know it? Yeah it is a still kind of magic because now it's just
• 21:08
  vile clips on the internet. But he used to be in Australia. Sit
• 21:12
  down seven thirty on a Tuesday and you need to watch Australia's funny Stowe video.
• 21:15
  You will be told Australia, Australia, this is you, this is
• 21:19
  you. That's right. Yeah, and look at him and he'd be so
• 21:22
  tough if like your favorite one. It's like they want a car at the
• 21:26
  end of the year. It's like, hey, kid fell out to fight
• 21:27
  the stairs. You were a car. We're bringing back. We're bringing back
• 21:32
  this season's champions. Remember kid who fell downstairs? Fat guy on waters slag.
• 21:40
  So I like that very much. I loved I loved home. At
• 21:42
  the end, Michael Jackson aka Leon has made his impassioned speech about you know
• 21:49
  who can see who's crazy or not not me. I got this. He's
• 21:53
  got his very proud that he's not crazy. I love the stamp as well.
• 22:00
  The revelation of the reveal of Homer's test results and he gets dragged off.
• 22:07
  There's cavil Man, he wears his pants. Then another great callback to
• 22:12
  Bart, isn't it? And the one thing a line that I'd always remember
• 22:18
  but I've forgotten, was from this episode. Well, I think it's Kennie.
• 22:22
  Don't be sure your face around here again? Your tool? That was
• 22:25
  Nelson? Was that Nelson? Yeah? When they realized that MJ Isn't had
• 22:30
  a different maybe sort of pitch of voice. Okay, I'm pretty sure it
• 22:33
  was Nelson. I could be wrong. Yeah, yeah, one of the
• 22:34
  bound here again, your tool? I think it was Kenney, an established
• 22:40
  bully at this point. I'm pretty sure the three bullies were Jimbo, Dolph
• 22:44
  and Nelson. Could be could well be Nelson, Yeah, it could be
• 22:48
  wrong. What else did you enjoy? Yeah? Yeah, this had the
• 22:49
  one worries? Shall we do some Well, we've got some stone cutters to
• 22:52
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  with us, it's Simpsons mail Bag at gmail dot com. Next question,
• 25:00
  you there eating the bast trivia questions. Mister Dames, it's time for some
• 25:03
  trivia. What's your first question? Oh, I'm going to go first.
• 25:06
  You are please recite to me the crusty hotline number one nine zero nine is
• 25:14
  zero nine? Oh, you clown, mrrect I'm pretending I didn't know,
• 25:18
  but that's my first question. My first question then, for you is what
• 25:23
  does the sign at the new Bedlam Mental Asylum say. There's a sign on
• 25:29
  the wall and they're walking in m It says you have to be You don't
• 25:33
  have to be crazy to be committed, but that helps. Yes. In
• 25:38
  Lisa's poem, what kind of car hit Snowball? Chrysler? It was a
• 25:42
  Chrysler? I forgot that was in this episode. She lies, lies,
• 25:48
  she died, No deal? So is it he lied, he lied,
• 25:56
  she died, she died, she died, she died. You know the
• 25:59
  answer this one, but read it out for me. The four Dates,
• 26:02
  Brooke Shields, Diana ros Emmanuel Lewis aka Webster and Bubbles and Bubbles the monkey?
• 26:07
  Was he just the monkey the chimp? So did he just have a
• 26:11
  chimp follow him around? Like mister teeny? What was the deal with Bubbles?
• 26:12
  I've heard of Bubbles, but I wasn't old enough to sort of live
• 26:15
  through it. Yeah, I don't know if Bubbles accompanied MJ everywhere, But
• 26:21
  did you have him out in public? This monkey? I think if you
• 26:25
  went to Neverland, yeah, you would invary it with. You would invariably
• 26:33
  meet and probably interact with Bubbles. Just comes across like a guy who had
• 26:37
  so much money that he just did not to do with it anymore. And
• 26:41
  he was just what was his case of he was trying to create a youth
• 26:45
  that he never got to live. That seemed to be the thing, wasn't
• 26:47
  it. That seemed to be the armchair psychologist opinion, because he had a
• 26:49
  shit upbringing. You had all the money in the world, Yeah, but
• 26:53
  he was You know that they're making this buyer pic about Michael Jackson right now,
• 26:59
  just called Michael an apparent. Of course it is sly starring like his
• 27:08
  nephew or something like that as young Michael. And so when's it says that
• 27:12
  his whole life? I think it's I think it's his whole life. But
• 27:15
  it's one of those ones like straight out of Compton or where the Jackson family
• 27:22
  is Like the executive producer, it's like, Okay, you've got the rights
• 27:25
  that we're going to rewrite history of everybody pretty much. Yeah, we've got
• 27:27
  the rights that we'll give you the rights of the songs, but in return,
• 27:30
  you're gonna have to whitewash some of this less savory stuff baps or just
• 27:34
  you'll allude to it, but you know, for the sake of like being
• 27:38
  upfront and honest. Which is weird because I felt they did the opposite for
• 27:41
  the Freddie Mercury Behemi Raapsody film. They made it come across so much worse
• 27:45
  than what he actually was. Like the band split up and he wouldn't get
• 27:48
  back together, and they want to do live aid and he did, and
• 27:51
  I'm thinking, none of this happened. Why do you fabricated such bullshit?
• 27:55
  Yeah? I don't know. I mean, I watched Bohemian Rhapsody once and
• 27:56
  I'm like, I've got no desire to ever see this. So many people
• 28:00
  say to me. I've had people say to me, oh, it's such
• 28:02
  a great story. It's such a good film. I didn't realize that happened.
• 28:03
  I was like, it didn't happen. Though, none of this happened.
• 28:07
  It's just I understand writer's license, but I don't know, just maybe
• 28:11
  I watched it going Freddie Mercury comes across a real douchebag. Don't you feel
• 28:15
  that he came across a bit of a douche threat a good portion of the
• 28:17
  last half of that movie. I don't really recall that much of it in
• 28:21
  Unstein, just it was a lot of this huge craze for about six months.
• 28:22
  Wasn't he won? What did he win the Academy Award for it?
• 28:25
  He did? Yeah? I mean I like me Malick as an actor,
• 28:27
  but it was badwagon. Yeah, b Timezone because we all love queen songs.
• 28:33
  Correct, Yeah, I'll all follow a question for you, Daly Lama
• 28:36
  visited when nineteen fifty two one of your questions, correct, were just coming
• 28:40
  to each other question? Indeed? Indeed? But might I ask you one
• 28:41
  more? Yeah? What is Leon Kompowski's hometown? Brooklyn Patterson, NW Jewey
• 28:48
  Patterson, New Joysey. Alrighty, So the original air date of Stark Graving
• 28:52
  Dad was September nineteenth, nineteen ninety one, production Code seven F two four,
• 28:56
  written by al Jeina, Mike Reese and directed by Rich More. The
• 29:02
  episode we do have the chop ball gag as well, so we do season
• 29:04
  eighteen reviews and there's no chalk gag and like kind of stuff. But the
• 29:07
  chop boy gag, I am not a dentist. And the couch gag,
• 29:10
  the couch tips over backwards, sending the Simpsons family through the wall. That's
• 29:14
  just a fairly old school, not elaborate couch gag. It's just like,
• 29:18
  and something happens. Yeah, yeah, even just the cauch gags like this.
• 29:22
  Yeah, they take me back because when you do season eighteen, it
• 29:25
  just doesn't feel the same. Never. The episode kicks off with Lisa waking
• 29:29
  up Bart, which is what he does at the end of the the episode.
• 29:32
  She wakes up at six am. Something's happened. Dad died, and
• 29:34
  he's actually don't believe he's actually relieved. Believe. Yeah, but it's almost
• 29:38
  Lisa's birthday and she's worried about becoming double digits and as Bart says, you
• 29:41
  know, that's when your legs start to go. And Kenny doesn't taste as
• 29:44
  good anymore, and he's always She says that he's always disappointed her, and
• 29:51
  he finally gives in and says that he will get her a present. And
• 29:52
  I do agree. It's just the pressure to be given a present felt un
• 29:56
  Lisa, Like it did, didn't it. H Yeah, she seems like
• 30:00
  someone who should be I don't need physical objects. Make a donation to Peter.
• 30:06
  Peter feed the starving child. But Marge asked Bart in the kitchen to
• 30:11
  watch Maggie while she goes and gets some laundry. He calls a crusty hotline.
• 30:14
  Doesn't pay an attention if you haven't asked your parents. Nerdy, nerdy,
• 30:18
  but Chirsty forgives you. By the way, how long was the how
• 30:21
  much for the first minute, and how much read traditional metals? Two dollars
• 30:22
  for the first and fifty cents after. I'm pretty sure there's no beating you.
• 30:26
  No, no, it's photographic memory. But the thing is, it
• 30:30
  took me back. I've got my notes here. Hot lines take me back.
• 30:33
  Remember when hot lines for me it was cheats for video games. You
• 30:37
  call this hot line for five dollars a minute. We can tell you how
• 30:40
  to enter this combo for Eddie Gordo on Teke and three Did you ever go
• 30:42
  up any hot lines and things like that? For me? It was phone
• 30:45
  sex? Okay, yeah, I still do that. Does phone sex still
• 30:48
  exist? I'm not sure it does. I guess it must. I'm sure
• 30:52
  there's like an app for it or something, but I can't imagine there's one
• 30:56
  nine hundred call me call me now, I always say, and they call
• 31:00
  me now, we're waiting for your cool. That was probably like some seventy
• 31:03
  year old. She just got a really hard voice. That's right. Yeah,
• 31:08
  what are you wearing? Oh? Hotlines? But you know, Crush
• 31:15
  just laughs at the entire time, makes his money call back tomorrow, and
• 31:18
  then Maggie grabs the fan. Not I like podcasts, No, Marge makes
• 31:21
  the fan. Marge walks in Caesar she ever powered me? Then have an
• 31:23
  easy shirt for work, and unfortunately they're all pink. And it's also Bart's
• 31:26
  fault with the lucky red hat. Indeed, quick question, did Homer always
• 31:30
  have that hairy chest? It was always been curly. Yeah, yeah,
• 31:34
  I just never picked up on it. No, this is the first time
• 31:37
  I thought was just like smooth chest days or in the early days. Anyway,
• 31:42
  you always had the curly hairs on his chest. Yeah. I don't
• 31:45
  remember seeing this episode, but that's what he usually looks like anyway. But
• 31:48
  I love the line here of I'm not popular enough to be different. That's
• 31:52
  so true in many aspects. When you're growing up, you just I can't
• 31:55
  be different. Only the cool kids can be quirky. Have you ever worn
• 31:57
  a pink shirt? I own several pink shirts, but purple. Do you
• 32:01
  recall the first time that, I mean, was there ever any sort of
• 32:04
  trepidation about the first time you put one on? I remember the first time
• 32:07
  I wore it out to a nightclub, and I was very anxious, but
• 32:13
  I thought I looked good. But I thought, if someone comments on this,
• 32:16
  it's going to break me. I'm going to go home straight up.
• 32:19
  And yes, but straight away. I remember these two girls, Emily I
• 32:22
  always say, last Nights is the last name? Emily and Kate? How
• 32:25
  wish Emily and Kate said, oh, nice shirt. I remember I first
• 32:29
  thinking are they taking the mickey? It's genuine? And then I realized they
• 32:35
  weren't. I won't explained how when they ripped it off my buddy. Yeah,
• 32:39
  but then I realized I know it's okay, and it was because even
• 32:42
  fifteen years ago, wear a pink shirt was now it's whatever. You wear
• 32:46
  no shirt to a nightclub, but you feel like you look good, but
• 32:50
  you're scared to see what people or other people think. That's cool when you
• 32:52
  should't. You should feel I you feel comfortable, you should just wear it.
• 32:54
  It depends on your coloring as well, I mean share the pink.
• 32:58
  Yeah. All the lovely Louise often told me, it's like, colour is
• 33:01
  not really you it color? Is that anything that's like anything that's not black
• 33:06
  pretty much anything outside black, black, gray or blue? No, Because
• 33:12
  I mean, I'm I am kind of partial to purple. I don't I
• 33:15
  think it's I like wearing it not not necessarily an all purple apbit. I'm
• 33:22
  not prince. That was Michael Jackson. What am I talking about? But
• 33:27
  we have the Prince a little bit later in the show. We will.
• 33:28
  Indeed, I recall we were at some shop and I was like, Oh,
• 33:30
  I really like this Polis shirt. In this column. I don't know
• 33:32
  how many times I've told you this is not your color. It does not
• 33:36
  suit your personal coloring, is it? But is it that she doesn't think
• 33:38
  you look good in it? Or is it that most people will think her
• 33:43
  opinion is the only one that matters. Yeah, most people try to look
• 33:45
  good for my person actio. Yes, that is correct, and it's yourself.
• 33:49
  Guy, David, you feel you look good in purple? We're damn
• 33:51
  purple. I will, you'll buy your purple shirt for your birthday. I've
• 33:54
  got a Wayne's World shirt that's purple, and I've had it since I reckon
• 33:59
  I was seventeen. Still fits me. It's one of those shirts where I
• 34:01
  judge whether I need to lose some weight. I put the shirt on too
• 34:04
  tight. I need to lose a bit of weight. I've told you we've
• 34:07
  talked about the aspirational shirt. Yeah, yeah, might fit into mine now,
• 34:10
  Oh really yeah, that's one. So I put it on a couple
• 34:13
  of weeks ago. I would pick up Alien. I thought still got it,
• 34:15
  baby, I'd still got it, and I referred to my gut.
• 34:21
  No, you're looking great, looking, looking really really good. So yes,
• 34:24
  So basically, Homer's shirt is now pink. It's all over. March,
• 34:27
  It's all over. And then he's revealed here that as Bart's hat,
• 34:31
  as we said, March is no one's going to notice. I really like
• 34:34
  the scene the shot here of him walking in all the workers all wearing white
• 34:37
  and he's wearing the pink and burns. Is not a fan of it at
• 34:38
  all? Is he some sort of free thinking anarchist. It's one of your
• 34:42
  boobs from sect to seven g yes, and these color monitors are peete for
• 34:45
  themselves. Then Lenny gives Homer a pink frosting donut and hang and shit,
• 34:50
  and you can imagine this is what it would happen in a factory. Oh
• 34:53
  yeah, wearing a pink shirt not cool. It doesn't make him a pink
• 34:57
  donut either, No, no, but he does like it though. He
• 34:59
  does love pink frost pink. Are you a chocolate donut or a pink donut?
• 35:01
  I was alway chocolate as a kid. I'm pink all the way now.
• 35:02
  I think I would be a pink donut. Yeah. Maybe it's the
• 35:06
  Simpsons influence. I don't know, but I prefer when it comes to sweets,
• 35:08
  strawberry pink is over chocolate. Ending out the week for me. Having
• 35:13
  said that, a combination of the two is very nice. I mean,
• 35:15
  did you ever I think are American friends called bis quick, but we call
• 35:19
  it quick oh quick, yeah, yeah, you combine the two flavors,
• 35:22
  I can bind chocolate and strawberry. Was that amazing? It's pretty damn Did
• 35:25
  you ever get banana? Bananna was like the one that you go got if
• 35:28
  if everyone else is running out. This is what I'm about to say.
• 35:30
  I'm very partial to banana flavoring. I think you might have said that you're
• 35:34
  you're the kid that liked the weird things, because no one ate banana.
• 35:36
  Quick he went to your friend's house. The bananas a banana or banana big
• 35:39
  m Yeah no, yeah. And I was at the the n QR.
• 35:46
  I went there with Alliott maybe three days ago. He was in heaven.
• 35:50
  He walked in, he goes, look at all these lullies, look at
• 35:52
  all these lolo prices. Well, we would have gone to the same n
• 35:58
  QR. It's just around the corner from Dando's pad if you do live around
• 36:00
  here. They've got three dollar limp bunnies, which are perfect for Easter time.
• 36:04
  That is correct. Friend of the pot. The other thing they had
• 36:07
  though, And while I'm trying to be on something in their healthcare, this
• 36:12
  is too good to pass it because it's not something that you often see in
• 36:15
  Australia. And even beyond that, it's kind of like a added affordable price.
• 36:20
  It's a variant of I love when they get the US of variants and
• 36:22
  shit, yeah it was banana flavored Twinkies. I still wouldn't eat it,
• 36:28
  but I can imagine you would have loved it. I bought the box,
• 36:30
  the whole box. Yeah, yeah, well they went certain an individually.
• 36:34
  Okay, yeah, you had to get a box of ten. I'm like,
• 36:37
  you feel like an absolute boss when you just drop the box on the
• 36:38
  cannon too. You're like, all of them, give it to me,
• 36:43
  Give it to me, because Nicholas, she loves these protein bars and it
• 36:45
  usually cost six dollars each. Right at the supermarket, they've got it for
• 36:49
  a dollar fifty each. What I bought three boxes of them? What dollar
• 36:52
  fifty? They all went out date like six months ago, but it's still
• 36:55
  a dollar fifty. There's I think barely is the difference between the best before
• 37:00
  date and the used by use by. Don't go past that best before Yeah,
• 37:05
  that's fine. Just blow it a bit and be fine by stuff.
• 37:07
  When you chuck with the scraped little white bits off it lou was cleaning out
• 37:10
  of her cupboards not long ago. I think I might have told this story,
• 37:14
  and you know, you double up on various things like oh, I'm
• 37:16
  out of so and so. Well, oh, wait a minute, there
• 37:17
  were actually three bottles way back in the cupboard. We're cleaning out of the
• 37:21
  cupboard, and there was I think we did like maybe four, four or
• 37:24
  five big garbage bags of this like this past is to use by date or
• 37:28
  whatever, and there was some where it's like I think that's the best before
• 37:31
  I'm trying it out and said, well, man, maybe i'll take that
• 37:34
  back tonight. It took like a big bag of stuff that had best before
• 37:38
  or was just past its use by data like oh users the next couple of
• 37:42
  days she was looking at me like I was some kind of freak. I
• 37:45
  had a good memory as you were talking. Then, I've very rarely seen
• 37:46
  my mum drunk. It was just speaking of things sort of like in the
• 37:49
  back of a closet. And my mom used to have this is it port
• 37:53
  like port? Oh yeah, but it was a Geelong Cat's football one right
• 37:57
  that she got just as a present for I was born, right, someone
• 38:00
  said, and I said, when the Cat's win the flag. You can
• 38:01
  drink this, right, And of course the Gelong Cats in the AFL here
• 38:05
  we're in the eighty nine, ninety two, ninety four, ninety five Grand
• 38:08
  Final. I never won them, so it just sat and used to sit
• 38:10
  on the on the bench at our house for years, decades, right,
• 38:14
  and I'm never for getting two thousand and seven when the Cats won the Grand
• 38:16
  Final and I said, Mom, you can drink that port now. And
• 38:20
  to see Mum get drunk on his port was just like such a great many
• 38:22
  was like Mom's finally finally gets to drink his port, Like nineteen years later,
• 38:28
  she's finally drinking his port. Yeah, dear port, I can't drink
• 38:30
  it anymore. I got absolutely shit faced on it, like New's Eve around
• 38:37
  maybe nineteen eighty nine or something, and maybe it was the same same batch.
• 38:40
  It could Oh I forgot where I was, but it was at like
• 38:45
  some event. There were like little shot glasses of port, you know,
• 38:47
  because you don't have it in big glasses. You have it like it's a
• 38:50
  minded little bits of it. And I had like maybe six or seven maybe
• 38:54
  more. Mom had a Sharon size drinking it, and I just got I
• 39:00
  I ended up ushering in the new year, out in the garden, just
• 39:02
  puking my guts out. Don't let mom seem pretty much. I have not
• 39:07
  drunk port since. Okay, let's go pinky. You don't understand my son
• 39:15
  just threw his red head and with the white laundry spear me the tire semantics
• 39:21
  of the Simpson family take him away. You know, mister Burns, his
• 39:23
  body cavities are to reveal nothing, and we must have actuated him one hundred
• 39:27
  times. Maybe he's telling the truth. Well, perhaps you toured in Coots
• 39:30
  Smith. There's anything to recall. You had a pension for Bill Bedham trousers
• 39:35
  back in seventy nine, sir, that was my costume from the plant.
• 39:37
  Production of him has been off for it. No years. Of course,
• 39:40
  you spirited horn pipe stool the shoes, I recall. But then we get
• 39:44
  an appearance from doctor Marvin Monroe. Yeah, I forgot that he was in
• 39:46
  this episode, and he says that he used to take months to find out
• 39:51
  if someone was insane. But now thanks to what oh I forgot take home
• 39:55
  personality test. That's right, I knew it was the test of Yeah,
• 40:00
  it answered twenty questions and determined how crazy sugar no sugarn someone is. I
• 40:06
  love it when normally Krusty is the mouthpiece for one of all expressive Yiddish terms,
• 40:10
  but I like it when someone else gets to throw one in. But
• 40:13
  then he asked Marge to fill in the forms because she won't do it.
• 40:15
  Then he asked Lisa, and this is where we get the whole meditation of
• 40:20
  an eight year old or thoughts of an eight year old. Basically her poem
• 40:22
  man it had meditation, I think in ruminations or something terribly pretentious. Liza,
• 40:29
  you like homework? Could you fill out this form for me? Well,
• 40:31
  all right, if you listen to the poem I just wrote. Meditations
• 40:37
  are Turning eight by Lisa Simpson. I had a cat named Snowball. She
• 40:40
  died. She died. Mama said she was sleeping. She lied, she
• 40:45
  lied. Why why is my cat dead? Couldn't that Chrysler hit me instead?
• 40:52
  I had an amster named Snuffy. He died, she lied, she
• 40:55
  lied. Hoad is bowling. There, It's just the perfect. Now can
• 41:02
  you say no deal now without doing the X? No deal? I think
• 41:07
  I can. People on the Deal and odeal show just love doing it.
• 41:12
  No deal actually Champion. By the way, this is an audio thing,
• 41:16
  but we were actually doing the no Deal No Deal. Yeah, so he
• 41:22
  has Bart here, but it's not sure. It's not that time you let
• 41:23
  me vote for you. But Homer watches funny Stone videos as Bart's doing it
• 41:28
  and baby with a nail gun, dog on fire, Dog on fire,
• 41:30
  dog on fire. It just says yes to everything here and unfortunately he does
• 41:35
  not pass the test, and so that's Kaffman. He wets his pants so
• 41:38
  good. He's then taken to New Bedlam. The mental asylum is you got
• 41:42
  to say that these days mental asylum, mental hospital, I think mental hospitals,
• 41:45
  even a mental hospital. Well it is be your mental health. Yeah,
• 41:50
  that is true, mental health hospital. Maybe. Yeah, it's the
• 41:52
  rest hope for the emotionally interesting. Apparently that's what the science says. Lovely
• 41:57
  ephimis. They show him the ink spots and the boy, the boy.
• 42:00
  That's actually a great payoff. Later there is a buck, but they stamp
• 42:06
  his hand. He's insane and whoever has this stamp isn't he? Then he's
• 42:10
  thrown in with the big white guy who thinks he's a little black guy and
• 42:14
  cue Michael Jackson. Well, I'm Homo Simpson from the Simpsons. Homer doesn't
• 42:19
  know who Michael Jackson is, unfortunately, does the Billy Jean dance, does
• 42:22
  the moonwalk? What's that thing? And you know what, what are you
• 42:23
  throwing it for? For wearing one white glove? Kevin and Rahyinstein's and the
• 42:31
  kids now watching Itchy and Scratchy. It has banged the cat slowly. I've
• 42:36
  got here. They showed the kids laughing at it. They looked hideous.
• 42:38
  The animation here was, oh, really terrible. It's worth going back if
• 42:43
  you can find access to this episode. Check out Spartan Lisa laughing at this
• 42:46
  scene. It's really bad. Just looks like a you know when they said
• 42:51
  in the earlier episodes where they said they they had to delete, although they
• 42:53
  had to go back and reanimate some episodes. It was Summer Chanted Evening.
• 42:55
  It felt like the animation from that is really really bad. But Lisa hints
• 42:59
  he that you know, we're about that present and as barsis, you want
• 43:01
  that once a year empty gesture, You've got it, And I guess that's
• 43:05
  what a lot of it is. Isn't it your birthday? Better get you
• 43:07
  a present? I guess so, and then we're at the mental health hospital
• 43:13
  and he introduces Frank the Idiot. He's an idiots advance. It is advant
• 43:15
  Yeah, that's the term that's sort of fallen out of favor. Hmm yes,
• 43:19
  and fight by no wow, and the chief who's the chief from the
• 43:24
  chief is from One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest Vaness. It's nineteen sixty eight.
• 43:30
  Nobody else getting in that time. Somebody reached out to me. I
• 43:35
  think there is another it's not not as obvious Cookoo's Nest reference, but there
• 43:40
  is someone a little bit later who looks like Jack Nicholson as McMurphy from Really
• 43:45
  Well, it's just sitting in the hospital. No, no ask. I
• 43:50
  think Homer's asking how do I get out of it? Yeah? There's one
• 43:52
  way eating the nurse oh yeah yeah, And he looks a bit like Jack
• 43:54
  Nichols and that nurse that look too bad. She's probably you have to be
• 43:59
  tough to work in the place like that, I'd imagine absolutely. Yeah.
• 44:01
  Yeah, you get a lot of shit thrown at your own just yeah,
• 44:05
  literally and metaphoric. But he calls home, what are the other places on
• 44:09
  the on the speed died? Did you see I did Larry Kings show oprah
• 44:15
  Rado and then it just said got a field on who and a ski report?
• 44:20
  Why ski report that? I don't know. Yeah, I'm sure the
• 44:22
  joke there's somewhere that I've missed. But he's too embarrassed the course against Michael
• 44:25
  to call for him. Just crematorium, you'll kill him. We grillham.
• 44:30
  Hello, who is this? Bert Simpson? Who the hell are you?
• 44:32
  I'm Michael Jackson, the Michael Jackson. No way, it's true. I'm
• 44:37
  with your father in a mental institution and he's Elvis with you. He could
• 44:42
  be. It's a big hospital. That's always been the thing, isn't it.
• 44:45
  Alvis is still alive. That's sort of that they're still to this day
• 44:47
  used two Park and Alvis. They're the two ones. Yeah, I mean,
• 44:52
  there was that whole thing about Paul McCartney is dead and Elvis is still
• 44:54
  alive. People actually believe Pau McCartney's dead. That's wild to me. And
• 44:58
  they believe that Pau mcartney's and an imposta, so weird. He's there,
• 45:05
  He's simply having a wonderful Christmas time all the time. I'm not a huge
• 45:09
  fan of that song. Though I like, it just felt very just.
• 45:14
  You listen to it and you go, Paul was just trying to make money
• 45:16
  with this. He's like, I'm gonna write a Christmas ching. You just
• 45:19
  put that in there to be commercial. Yeah. How many times have I
• 45:22
  said, though, that's we should do that. We should knuckle down and
• 45:25
  write a Christmas song and then we're just on Easy Street forever. Yeah,
• 45:28
  man RYA Kerrey, what a resurger she's had every every December twenty five,
• 45:34
  Yes, it was December first. She cracks out of the ice, but
• 45:39
  he wants him to stand the line whilst goes and tells his friends and family.
• 45:43
  But he says, you know you better up. And then was he
• 45:45
  said, you don't et you dad to have a little botomy. You want
• 45:46
  you dad out of you are sure you're right? Basically, Hom's like he's
• 45:49
  worried's never gonna get to he reasure its home. I don't worry, you
• 45:52
  will get out the only one get out. As you said, eating the
• 45:53
  norse wise guy voice. It's a little wise guy. I mean I think
• 45:58
  it was wise guy voice. Yeah. Also trying to put that nickelsony and
• 46:00
  sneering. Yeah, yeah, Marge shays that I told you one day,
• 46:05
  he's dad to the crazy house, poor house, crazy house, poor house.
• 46:07
  He's a shame to admit to to MJ that he is scared. That's
• 46:09
  a big deal for a guy, even to this day, to admit that
• 46:12
  they're scared. Oh, very much. Yeah, because we're just we're raised
• 46:15
  to think you've got to be tough and strong. And I think i've ever
• 46:17
  I've seen my dad cry once was when a family member passed away. But
• 46:22
  did you ever see Bobby cry very even not very often? Once? Yeah,
• 46:25
  yeah, and that was that was very bracing. Yeah. I do
• 46:28
  like the idea though, of like Homer admitting to another guy, I'm scared.
• 46:31
  You know, he obviously is scared. He's ever going to get out
• 46:34
  and is where Leon slash MJ sings Ben or Homer. I've always liked this.
• 46:39
  Oh it's just a nice little spin on it. But then pancakes football,
• 46:44
  This slayed in my household when I was boobies and bubbles. Is going
• 46:51
  to be a long night. Then it's time for a therapy session. And
• 46:52
  we've got Dave here who suffers from agoraphobia, just baby smoking and group therapy
• 46:59
  as well. It's like, yeah, nineties or magical time. Marge pleads
• 47:01
  to the doc. You know, don't just don't mention, but there really
• 47:05
  is a but good lot. Marge is very well dressed. She's picking up
• 47:08
  when she's pleading her case. That's like she's going to prison. Yeah,
• 47:12
  prison. But she embraces Homer and he's revealed here there's not a threat to
• 47:16
  yourself or others in writing. Please and they give him They're not Insane certificate,
• 47:22
  a diploma diploma. Yeah, and Michael says that he can come home
• 47:27
  as work with only there voluntarily because you're sad When in the nineteen seventy nineties
• 47:30
  Off the Wall record only one or was nominated for one lousy Grammy? That
• 47:35
  sounds about right? Yeah? Is that true? Shall we look it up?
• 47:38
  Off the Wall? I feel like Off the Walk won everything. It's
• 47:40
  just so renowned. But it's got rock with you on it, which is
• 47:45
  one of my favorite Michaels. What's the other one? I want to be
• 47:47
  starting something? Oh that's on Thriller? Or is it on bad lem on
• 47:51
  the Boogie? That's Off the Wall, right, isn't it? I think
• 47:52
  so? Or? Yeah? Is that just a Michael song? Or is
• 47:54
  it a Jackson's Oh you could be right there. Off the Wall. Let's
• 47:58
  get the track listing for Off the Wall. It's his first album. I
• 48:01
  remember having it owing it track listing scroll out to the bottom. God,
• 48:05
  damn was a little bit much. But don't stop to you get enough.
• 48:07
  That's what I'm thinking of a dub it. You got rock with you,
• 48:09
  working day and night. Off the Walk, Girlfriend, She's out of my
• 48:12
  life. It's falling in love. That's they're the singles that were released from
• 48:15
  it. Yeah, I'm say my mom, Samakusa. Great record, and
• 48:19
  then it was Thriller just changed everything, right, Thriller changed a lot of
• 48:23
  things. Yeah, it was particularly like music videos, didn't they? Oh
• 48:27
  yeah, absolutely? I mean, wasn't it an event to actually see the
• 48:30
  full It was an event to watch the making of Thriller. Really, that's
• 48:32
  pretty cool. That really spawned MTV, didn't It was a TV a thing
• 48:37
  before that. MTV was a thing before that. But I think certainly took
• 48:42
  you took just sort of, yeah, we can make movies out of this
• 48:46
  now. Yeah. So back home though, so they're all happy at that
• 48:50
  at the at the mental health hospital. But back home, Lisa is sad
• 48:52
  she's seeing Happy birthday to herself, Happy birthday to me, Happy birthday,
• 49:00
  Happy birthday. Oh I look to me child, happy birthday too. You
• 49:13
  do feel bad for her that they've forgotten her on her birthday. But there's
• 49:16
  a lot going on. There is a lot going on. Still, it's
• 49:19
  a daughter. But then we get they call home, Joe's taxid him and
• 49:23
  you snuff them. We stuffed them. I feel like you couldn't say we
• 49:25
  snuff him anymore, could you. I don't think he could right on a
• 49:30
  kid show, we snuff them or you snuff them. I think it's a
• 49:32
  perfectly acceptable alternative to Yeah, maybe all right, But he pretends so.
• 49:38
  But this was basically Homer calling up home and he threatens Bart but then he
• 49:42
  pretends he's been nice when the dog's looking at what's going on here, and
• 49:45
  he says he's bringing Michael Jackson home to make sure there's plenty of cold cuts
• 49:47
  and beer on ice, But unfortunately is a vegetarian. Are you sure you're
• 49:52
  here voluntarily? I'm a vegetarian. I didn't drink. Yes, promises not
• 49:54
  to tell anybody, but he can't help it, so he just tells you
• 49:57
  just does he know, and of course it spreads all the way through even
• 50:05
  to the bulletin on KBBL radio. And they're going to play an extra long
• 50:08
  version of it in the Gada Divita. Is that so they can go out
• 50:10
  and see Michael. I think it must be in a garda divida is already
• 50:14
  long, yes, so extra long version, yes, So that's what they
• 50:17
  That's what Bart uses in. Bart seals his soul. By the way,
• 50:20
  it was in the Garden by Iron Butterfly, great song, yes, who
• 50:27
  then closes for the first time ever so clear it's a big deal here in
• 50:30
  spring for the Michael Jackson is coming to town. But then over here is
• 50:32
  the helicopter over the over the house, and the mayor announces that they're going
• 50:36
  to announcing the new expressway, the Michael Jackson Expressway. And so this is
• 50:40
  post bad but pre dangerous dangerous. Was eighties, wasn't it? I thought
• 50:45
  it? I thought it went thriller, bad dangerous And what is black and
• 50:51
  white? Michael Jackson album Black or White? Just have a Look So dangerous?
• 50:55
  Was ninety one for the same year? Ish? Okay, yeah,
• 50:59
  all this what when when ninety wanted to come out? I think in twenty
• 51:04
  sixth November. So this air before Dangerous? Yeah, so it thriller was
• 51:07
  I was eighty I thought three was eighty okay, so eighty two bad was
• 51:12
  eighty seven? Yeah? What was the one that had him bo is a
• 51:15
  history where he's like a statue on the front. Yeah, and that's like
• 51:16
  mid nineties. That's the one I remember the most of the kid because all
• 51:20
  the singles when I was growing up on video hits used to put the album
• 51:22
  cover next to the song title. I think that was like you and Loon.
• 51:28
  What was the earth song on that one? Oh yeah, let's remember
• 51:30
  the time. I think the remember get a better Please God, I haven't
• 51:35
  thought about that song for so long. Yield the wood, make it a
• 51:37
  better pace for you and for me. Great guy, maybe not the best
• 51:46
  babies that no, apparently not no, but I all think Michael Jackson's going
• 51:51
  to be coming to Springfield though. Leon gets out of the car and they
• 51:54
  realized, oh, he's three hundred pounds, he's white, he's just with
• 51:58
  that flare all things that have been leveled at you'rs truly. Yes. Everyone
• 52:02
  then leaves and gets a punched. Thank's aroun here again your tool? Yeah,
• 52:07
  then Lisa asks about the present, and she's afraid to ask. You
• 52:10
  should trust your instincts on that one. So she basically is gonna delete him
• 52:15
  from her life. She's very sad about this. Homer tries washing off the
• 52:19
  stamp, but it's not coming off, and Michael overhears Lisa writing the letter
• 52:22
  to Bart. Dear Bart, I am using the stationary Mom and Dad gave
• 52:27
  me for my birthday to inform you that we are now brother and sister in
• 52:32
  name only. Perhaps if a professional so advice is I'll give you a hut.
• 52:37
  It's a far distant family reunion, but rest assured there will be purely
• 52:44
  for a show. It's a bit dramatic, but I guess she's eight year
• 52:49
  old, Yes, eight year old. But he goes and tells Bart,
• 52:52
  you know, let's go write a song to show that you can. You
• 52:54
  know when I was your age six girl records. It's like, you're actually
• 52:58
  fucking crazy. You didn't and basically, what was what is it that makes
• 53:02
  him think? No, it's the it's a threat of not So he goes,
• 53:07
  you could not write a song for your sister, or you could take
• 53:08
  advantage of potentially having Michael Jackson, and he's like, Michael, it's like
• 53:13
  you just wanted to believe. It's Colin. When you say things like sometimes
• 53:15
  you just choose to believe. It's like when you clap your hands to say
• 53:19
  you believe in fairies to bring tinker Bell back to life. Have you ever
• 53:22
  done that? I think I did it once. It did it work?
• 53:24
  It did on Yeah, it actually did. When you're a kid, though,
• 53:28
  and you know it's not true. We discussed this in South Park.
• 53:30
  You know it's not real. But there's still that fear of saying bloody Mary
• 53:35
  three times in the mirror. Never a sleeper. There's that one kid that's
• 53:37
  gonna do it. Don't do it times, don't do it again, don't
• 53:45
  do it. But they he writes the Gasoline Song about Lisa. Her name
• 53:52
  is Lisa, and so I'm not going to go down. Well, so
• 53:54
  they go to look at Lisa. She looks sad, she's discussed, she
• 53:59
  knows we're looking at her, but she still would have been sad. But
• 54:01
  then they write the song I really call me crazy, but I really love
• 54:06
  the draining wheels. Come after your bag about dad boys, you like whatever.
• 54:09
  I was like, even that is like a jingle like Michael Jackson just
• 54:14
  had it man. Indeed, and even if he does throwing a yeah to
• 54:17
  be commercial, that's fine. Yes, that was his thing. But they
• 54:21
  enter Lisa's room the following morning and they sing one of my favorite sims of
• 54:24
  songs of all time, the Happy Birthday Lisa and just I always had this
• 54:27
  thing when I was a kid, I always said that when my sister gets
• 54:30
  married, I'm gonna I was gonna sing, Stacey, it's your wed ding.
• 54:34
  I was gonna like change the words for that. That was always my
• 54:36
  thing, say to get married, I can do it. Please married.
• 54:39
  Yeah, it's such a happy song. Someone's marrying Stacy. Yeah. And
• 54:44
  you just we you loving good will. I love that song. I know
• 54:47
  it's deleted and I'm not almost likely groomed children apparently, well that's the that's
• 54:52
  the belief, but I do, I do love that song. Homer is
• 54:58
  still sleeping. You know you slipped me with he's not in saying award next
• 55:01
  and they thank Michael. This is where his voice changes and he reveals that
• 55:05
  he's actually on Compowski from Patterson New joy Ysy And to make a tire point,
• 55:08
  which one of us is crazy me I got this and you're a credit
• 55:13
  to Dementia. By the way, Yes, the voice is now switched to
• 55:17
  Hanker's area is a Hank Now Hank is doing There we go and that's the
• 55:22
  end of the episode. Yeah, as he's seeing that a list it's And
• 55:28
  they have a actual version of the song over the closing credits as well,
• 55:30
  they do, indeed, but probably still sung by what's his name, Kip
• 55:34
  Lemon? Lemon. Yeah, I love this episode. I'll always love this
• 55:37
  episode. It's a shame that it's not existing anymore in you know, in
• 55:42
  streaming or whatever. Understandable. But if you can go get a DVD or
• 55:46
  access it and find it, find access to it somehow, because it's it's
• 55:49
  great. It's a great use of a guest start. So weird, isn't
• 55:52
  it It is? Indeed, Yeah, I don't think it's anything that anyone
• 55:55
  was expecting at all, least of all Matt Groening when he was working later
• 55:59
  at the otherice that night and got a call from Michael Jackson. And Michael
• 56:00
  Jackson didn't even use his name in the credits. He's referred to as John
• 56:05
  J. Smith, not the initial J. The word J A Y I
• 56:07
  wonder if they marketed at the time obviously wasn't there, But did they marked
• 56:10
  Michael Jackson's going to be on The Simpsons? But then did did the viewers
• 56:15
  feel cheated because they didn't? If you were just watching the show and you
• 56:17
  didn't go we couldn't go online. But if you didn't watch the news and
• 56:21
  find out that Michael Jackson actually the voice, if they said Michael Jackson's coming
• 56:23
  to the Simpsons and you saw that as a kid and then you realize it
• 56:25
  wasn't Michael Jackson, would you have felt cheated? Do you think as a
• 56:28
  viewer because he wasn't never listened to the credits. I think the people at
• 56:31
  Simpson's HQ were probably working over time, certainly the marketing department, to let
• 56:36
  you know. It's like, yes, it's builders John J. Smith,
• 56:37
  but we all know who it is, right, We all know that Sam
• 56:40
  Etick is Dustin Hoffman and we all know that John J. Smith is MJ.
• 56:45
  Yeah. Look, it is sad that this episode has been quite unquote
• 56:50
  canceled or memory hold or what have you. It's also sad that we didn't
• 56:52
  get the proposed sequel. This would have been awesome. So it was Prince.
• 56:58
  That's who they had in mind. Lean was going to to return as
• 57:00
  Prince. What's the actual story of the episode, though, they do have
• 57:05
  it somewhere listed online, But basically I remember reading going this just feels like
• 57:07
  a rehash. It felt from what I understand, it seemed kind of strange
• 57:12
  that Leon came back to Springfield and now he was more like Prince. He
• 57:16
  sort of had more of a Prince identity than Michael Jackson identity. Surely everyone
• 57:20
  remembers him though from the first time, and basically wanted Springfield to sort of
• 57:23
  loosen up and be love sexy in the Prince day. So, I don't
• 57:28
  know, this feels pretty thin. Even though it was Conan O'Brien who wrote
• 57:32
  the script, ConA was it. I think Conan either wrote or worked on
• 57:36
  it. It's gonna be a propose sequel somewhere on the I produced sequels.
• 57:39
  A year after Start Grabbing Dad aired The Writer's Plan, a sequel which Campassi
• 57:44
  would return, this time claiming to be the pop star Prince. The script
• 57:46
  was written by freelancers and polished by Conan and O'Brien. That Conan polish,
• 57:51
  Yeah, According to Mike Reese, it saw Kampaski encouraged the Springfield residents to
• 57:54
  loosen up, become more flamboyant, and become more sexually open. Prince agreed
• 58:00
  to voice Kampowski and sent notes about what his character would wear, but the
• 58:02
  writers discovered that Prince was referring to a script that had been written by his
• 58:06
  chauffeur, so he must have rewrote the script. Prince disliked their script and
• 58:09
  demanded the other one be used, but the writers refused. The script became
• 58:14
  one of the few unproduced Simpsons scripts. Following Prince's death. In twenty sixteen,
• 58:16
  Show and Our Geen posted two screenshots of scenes from the script. There
• 58:21
  like a museum for Simpson stuff like that. Oh god, it's a bit
• 58:23
  like the end of Writer the Lost Arty. Just this warehouse full of unproduced
• 58:29
  golden ear of Simpsons episode. Yeah, absolutely, I am on Prince's side.
• 58:32
  I'm going to say I wouldn't have brought him to that either. That
• 58:35
  seems very thin, as you said, and a rehash of theion. Hey
• 58:38
  he returns as a different but everyone he's just been here. Everyone knows he's
• 58:42
  not Michael Jackson. Is it just that everyone going, Oh, just let
• 58:45
  Leon be Leon. Let's see. I think Leon left Springfield not under a
• 58:49
  cloud, but I think the residents of Springfield kind of like, ah,
• 58:52
  we were short changed by this guy. Yeah. Actually, I guess the
• 58:53
  residents of spring Fold don't know that he wasn't real, do they? Only
• 58:58
  the Simpsons know that. Oh yeah, and he came clean to the Simpsons
• 59:00
  family. Oh yeah, good point. I mean, that's that's a whole
• 59:04
  new can of worms. The only way our Gene, for us to know
• 59:07
  this is to release the entire script. We need to see it, both
• 59:10
  scripts. The only way that we can be sure about this is for Ol
• 59:15
  Jean to come on four Finger Discount and talk about it exactly right, our
• 59:17
  mister Gene. Please, mister Jean, come on, come on the show
• 59:21
  and let's talk about it. Yeah, it want to be great. We
• 59:23
  want to compare script. I'd love to compare Princes's script, his script.
• 59:29
  That's fantastic. Princess who knows Prince better than that guy though all the time?
• 59:35
  Yeah, pretty bit of an odd not not an odd ball, but
• 59:39
  I mean he showed upon a new girl, just did his own thing.
• 59:44
  Man, I love to hear what's what songs? You don't they would have
• 59:47
  used peple range. People raised the big one, right, I imagine.
• 59:50
  So yeah, although Prince probably being a pretty savvy businessman, what was it
• 59:54
  he released around the late eighties with sort of We're not in My name is
• 1:00:01
  Prince? E seventies, wasn't it. Yeah, we're in the Diamond and
• 1:00:06
  Pearls. Yeah, we're in Cream and Cream. What a song? So
• 1:00:10
  dope. I need to find the the quote because Prince was just full of
• 1:00:16
  these great quotes. I need to find Remember when he passed and there now
• 1:00:21
  on the radio, I pulled over. I was like, wow, that
• 1:00:23
  affected me. The three deaths that affected me, Prince, David Bowie and
• 1:00:28
  Robin Williams. I just they stopped me in my tracks. Oh yeah.
• 1:00:31
  And it's always weird when you sort of it happens in the middle of your
• 1:00:36
  day, like you don't wake up to that news. Yeah yeah, I
• 1:00:38
  mean I think I was on social media and started, well, yeah,
• 1:00:42
  Matthew Perry was a recent one, has a big one. Yeah, he's
• 1:00:44
  Ledger And that was kind of like here he's Ledger's dead. Sorry, I
• 1:00:49
  need to find this quote from Prince, from Prince and him, hang on,
• 1:00:52
  Prince and matt Damon it's the quote, just gream. The headline is
• 1:00:58
  Prince had no time for Damien's pedestrians, small talk, good sanctioned his bufoonery.
• 1:01:04
  What were they working on together? This was just at a party.
• 1:01:07
  Oh okay, here it is. This is a quote from Julius Stiles,
• 1:01:08
  who co starred with in the Bourne movies. After The Born Older Maiden came
• 1:01:13
  out, there was a premiere in London. Prince actually came to it,
• 1:01:15
  then got tickets for the cast to come see him perform. We were summed
• 1:01:17
  into a room to meet him after the show. Matt said, so you
• 1:01:21
  live in Minnesota? Are you live in Minnesota? Damon Prince said, I
• 1:01:24
  live in my own heart, mad demon. Most people will be just like,
• 1:01:32
  yes, I'm talking about Damon Princess live in my own home. Goddamn
• 1:01:38
  lord. What does David say back to that? What do you do?
• 1:01:44
  Nice neighborhood? Good? What's the weather like? Good? Good school catchment?
• 1:01:52
  But yes, so the unproduced sequel, it's a real shame because yeah,
• 1:01:54
  I mean the story is it's kind of bleak if you ask me.
• 1:01:58
  But we don't know the full story obviously, the full premise of the episode,
• 1:02:00
  but it would have been nice to have had prints on the on the
• 1:02:02
  Simpsons at some point, it certainly would have. It'd be nice to have
• 1:02:06
  Prince still with us, honest, exactly. Yeah, the man just burned
• 1:02:09
  out rather than faded away. This was also the episode that had the rerun
• 1:02:14
  when or when it was had the George Bush saying that it should be more
• 1:02:17
  like the Waltons and less like the Simpsons. That's correct. Yeah, So.
• 1:02:20
  January thirtieth, nineteen ninety two rerun of the episode featured a brief alternate
• 1:02:22
  opening, which was written, I know so it was written in response to
• 1:02:25
  him saying that. So. It was written in response to a point made
• 1:02:29
  by the then President, George W. Bush Senior, three days earlier.
• 1:02:31
  The show had previously had a few but the president's wife Barbara Bush, when
• 1:02:36
  in the October first, nineteen ninety edition of People, she called the Simpsons
• 1:02:38
  the dumbest thing she'd ever seen. The writers decided to respond on privately sending
• 1:02:44
  a polite letter to Bush in which they posed as Marge Simpson. Bush immediately
• 1:02:47
  sent a reply in which she apologized. Later, on January twenty seventh,
• 1:02:52
  nineteen ninety two, George Bush made a speech during his re election campaign,
• 1:02:54
  which included the statement We're going to keep it trying to strengthen the American family,
• 1:02:58
  make it families a lot more like the Walls, less like the Simpsons.
• 1:03:00
  The writers wanted to respond quickly as Barbara Bush had to them. As
• 1:03:04
  each episode of The Simpsons takes more than six months to produce, it's difficult
• 1:03:07
  for the show to comment on current events. The writers decided to add a
• 1:03:12
  brief response to the next broadcast of The Simpsons, a rerun of Start Grabbing
• 1:03:15
  Dad. This episode on January thirtieth, Nancy Cartwright, the voice of Bart,
• 1:03:19
  was called in to record a line. The broadcast included a new tongue
• 1:03:22
  in cheek opening. The scene from the episode Simpson and Delilah begins in the
• 1:03:25
  Simpsons living room, where the family is watching Bush's speech. We are going
• 1:03:30
  to keep on trying to strengthen the American family, to make American families a
• 1:03:36
  lot more like the Waltons and a lot less like the Simpsons. Hey,
• 1:03:39
  we're just like the Waltons. We're praying for an end of the depression too.
• 1:03:45
  And the opening is featured on the season four DVD box set. That's
• 1:03:46
  actually pretty clever, yes, well the Simpsons. Someone say they're kind of
• 1:03:51
  clever. Yeah, you should have waited a few years and come like,
• 1:03:55
  you know, more like the Waltons, less like the Griffins. Yeah.
• 1:03:59
  No, one wants to be like the Griffins. Right, No, they
• 1:04:00
  do not know. That's not talking about the Griffins. But this has been
• 1:04:02
  our review. I've start roving Dad. We hope you guys enjoyed it.
• 1:04:05
  It was just so much fun to go back and revisit such a classic episode
• 1:04:08
  that if I had been doing this review, I wouldn't have because I had
• 1:04:11
  to pull out the DVD's and I very rarely pull out the DVDs anymore,
• 1:04:14
  which is a shame, because like, oh, let's get it. I
• 1:04:15
  love I love just holding it. No, it's a cool box set.
• 1:04:17
  Hold up to the camera. There see a slipcase, the cool cover.
• 1:04:21
  When was it originally come out in two thousand and they just come out every
• 1:04:25
  year the first or two that this would have been two thousand and three.
• 1:04:27
  This one came out like that calls that right all the we love physical media.
• 1:04:31
  We do love physical media. Get the booklet here and everything. I
• 1:04:34
  just I loved it. I love pulling it, putting the DVD in Alien
• 1:04:38
  actually put the David in and he was like, what is this? What
• 1:04:40
  is this? There's the medium Dando says. I love pulling it out and
• 1:04:43
  putting it in and putting in the disc into the player, I should say,
• 1:04:48
  but yeah, it's just it was just so nice having a menu.
• 1:04:51
  I was like, I remember the menus because basically when you were a kid,
• 1:04:55
  I would have been what twelve when this one came out, maybe a
• 1:04:57
  bit older, twelve thirteen. I used to put these v he is going
• 1:05:00
  to go to sleep, used to listen to the commentaries so quite off,
• 1:05:02
  and I wake up the middle of the night and it's just the men you
• 1:05:03
  know, you wake up to our menu. Yeah that was your ASMR.
• 1:05:06
  Yeah. So like I would wake up and like, these menus are just
• 1:05:11
  ingrained in my mind. You know. It was just a flashback. But
• 1:05:14
  anyway, start graving, Daddy Clai great episode. The next classic episode we
• 1:05:16
  might review. I'm actually gonna be doing a I'll plug it here. It's
• 1:05:20
  gonna be at four thirty in the morning, so you won't be doing this
• 1:05:23
  one with me. I can't tell it is with a podcast. I could
• 1:05:27
  murder a podcast and do like a true crime podcast over in the UK and
• 1:05:30
  we're going to be tackling who shot mister Burns Part one and Part two?
• 1:05:32
  Oh okay then yeah, four thirty in the morning. You're available, you
• 1:05:34
  can do it. You're right, I'm probably not gonna be we can here
• 1:05:38
  at four thirty, but have fun. And we're thinking of tackling as if
• 1:05:42
  it's a true crime a bit of a different spin. Wow, getting innovative.
• 1:05:45
  Yeah, I could murder a podcast. So check out those guys as
• 1:05:48
  well, and they're going to be coming on here at four figure discount in
• 1:05:50
  friends of the pod having a merry old time. Yeah, but thank you
• 1:05:53
  guys for either listening to the show or watching us here whoever you're watching this
• 1:05:56
  podcast with For now Miasi Davis. Any final words for those incredible appauters out
• 1:06:00
  there, We hope you've enjoyed this episode of four Finger discount to the podcast
• 1:06:02
  that is not poppy on enough to be different.