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Chuck & Buck 4-29 Hour 3: The Logan rumors, Emmanuel Henderson Jr and apparently we haven't talked about this enough... · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Hey, good Wednesday morning to you. It is the hum
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  Speaker 1: day edition of Chucking Back in the Morning Sports Radio
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  Speaker 1: ninety three point three E K J A R f M.
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  Speaker 1: Great to have you with us, Ashley Ryan, Chuck Powell.
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  Speaker 1: When I say us, no, Bucky Jacobson today's on extended leave.
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  Speaker 1: Don't know when he'll be returning. But don't worry, do
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  Speaker 1: not fret. Everything is good. We've had some updates from
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  Speaker 1: Bucky and all. It seems to be fine on that front.
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  Speaker 1: It's great to have you with us here, and we've
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  Speaker 1: got a lot still to get accomplished here today. Ashley
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  Speaker 1: Ryan is pulling her hair out over the log here
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  Speaker 1: at the station. My hands smell like shaving cream and
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  Speaker 1: I haven't shaved since two thousand and six.
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  Speaker 2: You probably didn't, at least not with barbasol.
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  Speaker 1: Our pets heads are falling off. Yeah, there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: going on here.
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  Speaker 3: Meanwhile, our listeners are probably loving it though, because we're
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  Speaker 3: having like four minute breaks and I'm I can't figure
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  Speaker 3: out it's not the well the short break is confusing
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  Speaker 3: on its own because we never get those, but all
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  Speaker 3: like things are changing. Oh so it's like it gives
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  Speaker 3: me one time and I look at it, and then
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  Speaker 3: when I look back later, it's different. So now I've
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  Speaker 3: gone through and I've written them all down, so I
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  Speaker 3: can prove that I'm not going insane because I feel
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  Speaker 3: like I'm going insane.
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  Speaker 2: That's the problem.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think you are well down that road to
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  Speaker 1: begin with. Oh so there's that. Oh if that makes
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  Speaker 1: you feel any.
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  Speaker 2: Better, Okay, Well it does actually a short hike.
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  Speaker 1: For you, because what I'm saying is perfect. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: mean pretty much out your front door to the end
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  Speaker 1: of the driveway to the mailbox. Yeah, yep, yep. You
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  Speaker 1: didn't have far to go, not it really not a
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  Speaker 1: really long journey for you to insanity. So there is that,
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  Speaker 1: and then yeah, secondarily, you know what, it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: It's true, it doesn't really, it's true.
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  Speaker 1: I just nobody's gonna have sympathy for us.
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  Speaker 2: No, they're not.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, like when we wake up early in
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  Speaker 3: the morning, and sometimes there's certain things that happen when
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  Speaker 3: you're tired and you're like, did.
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  Speaker 2: I remember to do this? Did I remember to?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, it has changed. I wrote the time down and
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  Speaker 3: it has changed. Oh okay, So I'm not going insane
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  Speaker 3: because that's.
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  Speaker 2: The thing is like, you'll sit there. Maybe I didn't see.
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  Speaker 3: What I thought I saw, and so I thought I
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  Speaker 3: was going absolutely crazy this morning because I'm like, this
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  Speaker 3: has never happened before.
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  Speaker 2: How much sleep do I need?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it turns out I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I'm on top of it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I've seen you chewing your hair back there.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I had to put it back in this bun.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you've made meat puppets. You've got a line.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: There's other things.
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  Speaker 1: Been peeing in jars and just leaving them outside the studio.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't drank wine in three days. Maybe that's the problem.
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  Speaker 1: Thrown your nails out like Mary J. Blige.
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  Speaker 2: Oh God. And then I'm just typing like this, just
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  Speaker 2: flapping my fingers.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of evidence that maybe you already there. I
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  Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the log or the computer
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  Speaker 1: or the commercial loads.
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  Speaker 2: I'll agree with that.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I am already halfway too insane, but this seemed
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  Speaker 3: like it was putting me over at the top, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm not ready to go there today.
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  Speaker 1: It's all Wednesday, okay, Okay, Well, well we'll get there
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  Speaker 1: by Friday. Yeah, anyway, can someone else pick up Palmer
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  Speaker 1: from school today.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, somebody is already picking Palmer up from school today.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for reminding I need to send an email.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we just need to get her home,
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  Speaker 1: just get her straight home after the show. Oh gosh,
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  Speaker 1: all right, we've got some cash to give away, one
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  Speaker 1: Media those iHeart people. They've discovered there are more than
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, whatever happened to just cash, green money getting reckless?
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  Speaker 1: Win really are getting carried away?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think they figured out that people would just
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  Speaker 3: go to the website without listening and just type in
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  Speaker 3: one of the four they always use maybe and.
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  Speaker 2: One of them would eventually work.
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  Speaker 1: Well, media is your word, so enter it at ninety
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  Speaker 1: three to three KJR dot com for your shot at
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  Speaker 1: one thousand dollars in cash. Again, Media at ninety three
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  Speaker 1: three KJR dot com. Your next keyword comes up at
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  Speaker 1: nine o'clock. Emmanuel Henderson Junior is going to join us
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  Speaker 1: at the bottom of the hour. So if you wanted
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  Speaker 1: to get to know one of the new draft picks
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  Speaker 1: for the Seahawks, your first opportunity comes today here at
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  Speaker 1: eight thirty. But let's talk a little more Mariners Baseball.
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  Speaker 1: I heard this in our meeting Monday. Apparently I missed
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  Speaker 1: this over the weekend, and the culprits for spreading this
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  Speaker 1: are too. Certainly one of the more nationally renowned guys
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  Speaker 1: in the business. I mean, he's not. He doesn't make
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  Speaker 1: a habit of just making up stories or sleeping with
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  Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel or anything like that.
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  Speaker 2: Just like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jeff Passing, I think is very good at what
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  Speaker 1: he does and takes the job very soon seriously. And
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  Speaker 1: and so he's floating out some Logan Gilbert trade possibilities
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  Speaker 1: to solve the Mariner's excess of starting pitching issue that
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  Speaker 1: they have right now. Number One, I don't consider it
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  Speaker 1: an issue having more starting pitching than you need. I
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  Speaker 1: don't really consider that an issue. I consider that a surplus.
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  Speaker 1: I consider that a good problem to have. So let's
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  Speaker 1: start there. It's not like we're sitting here in desperation
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  Speaker 1: mode that we're going to sell off one of our
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  Speaker 1: very good, one of our best pitchers in the organization.
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  Speaker 1: Just well, we got too many. They's got to get
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  Speaker 1: rid of one of them. No, we're not going to
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  Speaker 1: just throw out Logan in a burlap sack and leave
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  Speaker 1: him by the side of the road. Okay, he's pretty valuable.
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  Speaker 2: We like him a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that that is an issue as well. So
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  Speaker 1: and I know he's not suggesting that, but that's not
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  Speaker 1: the solution to what our surplus of potential. Let's just
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  Speaker 1: still call it potential. We still don't have Bryce back
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  Speaker 1: when we got Luis Castill with a six and a
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  Speaker 1: half era. We don't have a surplus a squad right now.
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  Speaker 2: No, we definitely don't. We just have the plan for surplus.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we do have the potential for having one guy
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  Speaker 1: too many, maybe two guys too many. The way Kate
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  Speaker 1: Anderson's going, he seems he looks better than any of
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  Speaker 1: our guys right now. Yeah, even though he's pitching a
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  Speaker 1: double a Arkansas at this point. So maybe we have
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  Speaker 1: two guys too many. But that's a good thing to have,
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  Speaker 1: and certainly we're not stressed about it up here in
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  Speaker 1: the Pacific Northwest to the degree that we trade away
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  Speaker 1: Logan Gilbert just to solve that problem. But he did
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  Speaker 1: float it out there as maybe this is a direction
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  Speaker 1: that they could go and it's based on that. There
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  Speaker 1: are there's some stuff about Logan since he had his baby,
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  Speaker 1: that he's feeling very family oriented and maybe mom and
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  Speaker 1: dad back in Florida are putting on pressure and you
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  Speaker 1: live an awful far away son. You know, there are
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  Speaker 1: a lot of us, There are a lot of other
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  Speaker 1: Major League Baseball teams anyway that you can get to
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  Speaker 1: the Braves or something like that, that it's a little
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  Speaker 1: easier for us to come see our grandchild and probably
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  Speaker 1: the thirteen more grandchildren you're going to have before it's
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  Speaker 1: all said busy because he just enjoys it. So that's
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  Speaker 1: where it stems from that. Maybe that's a solution for
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  Speaker 1: how the Mariners deal with this going forward. If Logan
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  Speaker 1: Gilbert wants out and a year and a half and
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  Speaker 1: maybe wants more money than the Mariners, and he's using
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  Speaker 1: that as a chip to maybe drive up the price,
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  Speaker 1: and the Mariners aren't willing to move on that price,
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  Speaker 1: then maybe you just make that trade now you can
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  Speaker 1: get a good return for him and help your team
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  Speaker 1: right now and trade from a surplus of starting pitching. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I get the theory, but it actually the math doesn't
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  Speaker 1: add up. Dave Schoenfeld also weighed in on this, and
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  Speaker 1: Dave Schoenfeld always has really good ideas and then just
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  Speaker 1: never really does finish. So I'm going to finish for
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  Speaker 1: both of you because I'm going to tell you that's
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  Speaker 1: just not the As a matter of fact, it just
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  Speaker 1: doesn't even make sense. Now, this is coming from a
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  Speaker 1: person that has been warning you for years there will
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  Speaker 1: be a decision between Gilbert and Kirby. You know this organization.
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  Speaker 1: You know they're spending habits. They're not going to spend
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  Speaker 1: twenty five to thirty five million dollars a year on
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  Speaker 1: Logan Gilbert and then turn around the next year and
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  Speaker 1: give twenty five to excuse me, thirty to forty million
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  Speaker 1: a year for George Kirby because the market has escalated.
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  Speaker 1: They're just not that type of organization and we should
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  Speaker 1: know that by now. I think they will choose one
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  Speaker 1: of the two. I think that that is something they'll do.
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  Speaker 1: I've been saying this for years. I think that they'll
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  Speaker 1: choose one of the two and then I think the
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  Speaker 1: other one's going to get traded this offseason. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: gonna warn you, and I don't have any inside information.
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  Speaker 1: It's just me trying to figure out. Reading the tea
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  Speaker 1: leaves here that they're not going to extend both of
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  Speaker 1: them when they've already extended Josh to a big deal,
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  Speaker 1: Kyle do a big deal, Julio do a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: Now Cold Emerson to a big deal. Cold Young's probably
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  Speaker 1: gonna get a big deal. So we're not going to
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  Speaker 1: end up with all four of these starting picks, you know,
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  Speaker 1: before it's all said and done. So I've said it
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  Speaker 1: for a long time. They'll choose between Gilbert and Kirby,
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  Speaker 1: try to get an extension with one of them, and
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  Speaker 1: then they're going to trade the other one this off
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  Speaker 1: season while their value is really high, and I think
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  Speaker 1: that they'll restock with prospects. That's what I think they're
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  Speaker 1: going to do. I don't think it's gonna that way.
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  Speaker 1: It opens up the entire field. You're not just trading
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  Speaker 1: to teams that are in contention. You can trade them
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  Speaker 1: to a team, You can trade them to anybody at
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  Speaker 1: that point. If you wait until the off season, and
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  Speaker 1: if it's Kirby, I think you even get more because
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  Speaker 1: you've got two years of control over George Kirby and
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  Speaker 1: I have a feeling because of Gilbert and the Cal
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  Speaker 1: Rawley thing, and I know George is close to Cal two,
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  Speaker 1: but I just kind of get the feeling that their
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  Speaker 1: preference would be Logan. And then you could move Kirby
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  Speaker 1: in the off season and just get a boatload of
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  Speaker 1: stuff in return for him, and then in a couple
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  Speaker 1: of year, as long as Miller and Wu both stay healthy,
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  Speaker 1: I think you're going to make a decision on one
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  Speaker 1: or the other there as well. And you've got Kate Anderson,
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  Speaker 1: who's ready for the starting rotation maybe now, he's certainly
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  Speaker 1: going to be ready by twenty twenty seven. And then
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  Speaker 1: you've got Ryan Sloan who's going to be ready at
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  Speaker 1: the latest by twenty twenty eight, and he might even
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  Speaker 1: be ready by twenty twenty seven. So we're ready to go.
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  Speaker 1: We're good to go. And if you can move a
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  Speaker 1: couple of your pieces over the course of the next
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  Speaker 1: five years, you can just keep replenishing this thing and
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  Speaker 1: keeping it young and keeping it keeping the payroll in
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  Speaker 1: check for John's sake, because he worries about that and
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  Speaker 1: you and yet you don't have to slow down the machine,
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  Speaker 1: the winning machine here either. So I do believe that
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  Speaker 1: there is a trade with one of the starting pitchers coming.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't see a world where you're doing it now.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't add up to me, and I think it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of lazy to kind of float it out there.
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  Speaker 1: Here's why, all right, So let's take the third teams
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  Speaker 1: we have. Do you think they're going to trade him then?
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  Speaker 1: American League? Last team?
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  Speaker 2: No, No nofing chance.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so we can already eliminate for that. You're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna trade him to a rebuilding team. Why would a
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  Speaker 1: rebuilding team want one and a half years of control
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  Speaker 1: over Logan Gilbert? And what do they have to give
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  Speaker 1: us that helps us win right now? Because can you
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  Speaker 1: imagine if we traded Logan Gilbert in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: a season for prospects in the middle of a season,
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  Speaker 1: people they would lose their minds. And if we moved him,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna move him, you've got to
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  Speaker 1: move him for a piece, Okay. So we move him
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  Speaker 1: from an area of strength to make up for an
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  Speaker 1: area of deficiency. And this is an all star caliber
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  Speaker 1: pitcher who's very young and has a year and a
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  Speaker 1: half control making a pretty reasonable salary. So we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have to get really something special in return. So, by definition,
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  Speaker 1: a rebuilding team probably doesn't satisfy that. What do we
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  Speaker 1: want with a guy for a year and a half
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  Speaker 1: and we're not gonna win for two or three year? Ys,
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  Speaker 1: this is not the National Football League. Rebuilding efforts in
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  Speaker 1: Major League Baseball take three to five years. The White
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  Speaker 1: Sox aren't close. The Colorado Rockies, no chance. The Washington
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  Speaker 1: Nationals aren't close. The Minnesota Twins just traded away nine
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  Speaker 1: veterans six months ago. They're not thinking about we need
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: we needed a starting pitcher right now. That puts us
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  Speaker 1: over the top. That's not happening. I'd even put the
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  Speaker 1: Saint Louis Cardinals in that category, even though they're off
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  Speaker 1: to a pretty good start this year. And I do
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  Speaker 1: not want to go through these Cardinal rumors again. I
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: don't even want to deal with Saint Louis fans over
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  Speaker 1: a trade rumor again. Oh yeah, we'll we'll get out
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  Speaker 1: with Logan Gilbert. You're gonna have hoesay for bing and
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  Speaker 1: Pedro Pahes and one of our hitting instructors. No, we're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna play that game with the Cardinals again. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So I don't think that they're a possibility. So that's
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  Speaker 1: five more teams that I've taken out of the equation
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  Speaker 1: plus us, that's ten of the thirty that I've already eliminated. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we're not trading him to the Yankees, are we? No?
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  Speaker 1: No chance? Are we trading them to the Blue Jays. No,
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  Speaker 1: we're not gonna trade them to any team that we
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  Speaker 1: think we're gonna have to face in the American League playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: We're not gonna give them a starting pitcher, a number
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  Speaker 1: of potential number one, no doubt, at number two, or
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  Speaker 1: at or a phenomenal number three. No, we're not giving
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  Speaker 1: them to Detroit. We're not giving them to Cleveland. They
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  Speaker 1: don't need pitching anyway. So that's four more teams that
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  Speaker 1: we can knock off of this. If he wants to
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: go closer to home, and we're gonna trade Logan and Gilbert,
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  Speaker 1: then doesn't that take San Francisco, Arizona and the Dodgers
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  Speaker 1: out of the equation and the Padres.
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  Speaker 3: Because I would think they'd I guess that he'd try
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  Speaker 3: to have a say in where he's going.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if he wants to go, I mean maybe the
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  Speaker 1: Padres would trade for a year and a half. They're
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  Speaker 1: kind of crazy like that. Maybe I had to make
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: an exception for the San Diego Padres, But then who
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  Speaker 1: do you get in return. They're not gonna give us fatisse. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and John Stan's not gonna make John Stan's not gonna
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  Speaker 1: make that trade. They're not giving us Jackson Merrill. They're
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  Speaker 1: invested in him.
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  Speaker 2: Both of them. We'll get both of them.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean they're not. They're not giving us tatiss
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: and John wouldn't take to tease, he makes too much money. True,
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  Speaker 1: we're not. They're not giving us Jackson Merrill. They're invested
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  Speaker 1: in Jackson Merrill like we are in Julio. So I mean,
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  Speaker 1: maybe Jackson Merrill, I suppose that could be something that
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: you could work out if Padres wanted to win. Now,
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  Speaker 1: So maybe I won't eliminate all of them, but it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't sound I mean, if you're sending him to San
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: Francisco in Arizona and he's already telling the world, Hey,
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: the reason that I will even considered leaving Seattle's because
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: I want to be close to Florida. Well, yeah, California,
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: Northern California is closer to Florida, I suppose. But it's
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: not close. No, Grandma and Grandpa are still complaining.
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  Speaker 2: It seems.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: If you're saying you want to be closer to home
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  Speaker 3: and you go to San Diego, that would be odd.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So now that's just discussing the market. Okay,
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: what would the Mariners want and turn for Logan Gilbert?
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  Speaker 1: What do we want? What would what do we need?
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  Speaker 1: What is it? Where's our hole? What is it that
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: we would fill by trading away from our surplus starting
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: pitching by giving up a Logan Gilbert? Any ideas? No, Well, yeah,
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: we could use a hitter. Well, we could use a hitter.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that Brandon Donovan's locked in
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: at third base, So maybe a right handed hitting third
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: baseman we seem to struggle against lefties. Maybe a more
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: consistent right handed hitting right fielder, or maybe even just
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: a hitter, just a right handed hitter that could play
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: d h So, yes, we would be in the market
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: if I'm looking at it right now, at upgrading our
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: roster by adding a no doubt thumper, right handed hitter
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: so that we're not as vulnerable against left handed pitching.
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  Speaker 1: So I will entertain that as possibly what we would
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  Speaker 1: need because we don't need starting pitching. That's the issue
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  Speaker 1: to begin with.
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  Speaker 2: Please don't trade him for aw We're not.
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  Speaker 1: Trading Logan for another starting pitcher and we don't need
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: and it's silly to trade a Logan Gilbert for a
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: relief pitcher. I don't care how good he is. Maybe
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Mason Miller, but that would be about the last that
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: probably be the only guy in the universe that you
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: would consider doing that for. So that's out of the question,
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: not to mention, not really a problem for us right now.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: We got good relief pitching. So now we've identified that.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: But let's think about how narrow we've made this Jeff
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Passing and Dave Schoenfield. So we have to find in
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: a trade partner something they have that is an affordable,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: available comparable to Gilbert's status right handed hitter who plays
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: right field or third base, from a contending team that
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: wants to get better.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of options.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Then Fred meet Needle, Hey, you don't really how narrow that?
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the smallest opportunity or pool.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: I would say no Again, I'm gonna go back to
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: what I said earlier. I think Logan Gilbert and or
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: George Kirby's gonna wear another uniform for the next phase
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: of their career. One of them is wearing a Mariner
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: uniform for the last season. And I do believe in
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: the offseason we will trade for a boatload of prospects.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: They're gonna We're gonna get a really good package of
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: near major league ready players in return for one of
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: these two guys. But we're not gonna do that in
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: the middle of the season. Not when you're trying to
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: win a World Series. I don't care what kind of
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: surplus starting pitching that you have. Yeah, So where does
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: that leave us? We don't have a lot of teams
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: left on this on this roster, Philadelphia Phillies don't have
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: anything other than high priced veterans who are having bad years.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: So we're not doing that. And they're not giving up
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Schwarber or Turner or Harper in the middle of a season.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: They're going to dangle Alec Bohm. No, thank you, he's
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: hitting one forty eight. You couldn't get rid of him
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: the last two offseasons.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: What do you think they've for the last couple of years.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Why do you think you're gonna get Logan Gilbert? So
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: they were out of the question. Cincinnati has no match
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: whatsoever unless they want to give us a Sal Stewart
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: or Elie de la Cruz, and they wouldn't do that
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: in a millionayears, I'd take Ellie though, unless you're a
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: big Spencer Steer fan, but no, thank you. Not for
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Logan Gilbert. Tampa Bay that's close to Florida. They might
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: want Gilbert while he's kind of cheap over the course
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: of the last next year and a half, but they're
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: not trading cam and Aro. Aronda is pretty much just
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: a young Josh Naylor and Yondi Diaz I like, but
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: he's not at this age and what position he plays
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: worth a Logan Gilbert. So they're out of the question.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: So it really, I mean, I really racked my brain
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: on this last night. I'm like, where's the match? Where's
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: even the possible match? I came up with three things.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Kansas City's Michale Garcia, All Star third baseman, right handed hitter,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: more of a speed guy than he is a power guy.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: But he's developed himself into an All Star. He won
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: the WBCMVP if you remember. I mean he's a good player.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: He's a really good player. Royals love him. I doubt
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: that they would part with him, but maybe for Logan Gilbert.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Of course, they're twelve and seventeen right now. They got
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: to dig out of their hole. We kind of dug
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: out of ours. They dig out of their hole before
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: they would even consider some sort of trade. So maybe
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: that maybe the Chicago Cubs, because they have so much
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: injury to their roster right now pitching wise, that they
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: would be desperate enough. I mean, Saya Suzuki has entered
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: a new stratosphere. He's like one of the best hitters
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: in baseball right now. I mean that is that maybe
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: a possibility that the Cubs. This is one of those
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: midseason you don't even see them anymore, trades of two
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: contenders who are saying, all right, I want to shore
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: up this and I have a lot of this, so
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: will let's just dance partner. I got the Rollerskate, you
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: got the key kind of thing, and let's just get
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: together and try it out. Maybe. And then the other
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: thing I thought of was Austin Riley from the Atlanta Braves,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: right handed hitter, third baseman, tremendous talent, but he hasn't
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: really been good or healthy in three seasons and he
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: makes twenty one million dollars a year. Now you could say, well,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: if you're going to extend Logan and he's turning down
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: your money, you're probably giving up more than that in
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: your offer right now for Logan Gilbert, So you'd actually
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: be saving a little bit of money. But you're trading
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: away a guy who's really good at what he does
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: versus a guy that for whatever reason, cannot stay on
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: the field and can't find that magic that he had
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: three seasons ago. So I don't even think that's a match.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: So it's really difficult to find a trade partner in
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: the middle of a season for a really good starting pitcher.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Doesn't matter if you have a surplus of pitching anyway,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: because contenders want to contend and they don't want to
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: subtract from the rest of their roster. It only just
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: the math only adds up. So I mean, I get
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: what the National guys are trying to do. You have
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: excess pitching, and you could you could use an upgrade,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: certainly on offense, So why not trade Gilbert since I'm
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: hearing he wants to be closer to his family eventually anyway, Well,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: that's fine. That's what he ultimately chooses to do. We
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: can accommodate that. But in the middle of the season,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: like I said before, what we would need in return
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: is an affordable, available, comparable, all star right handed hitter
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: that plays either third base or right field from a
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: contending team that wants to get better this year. And
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: that is a really difficult thing to find.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, as you said thread and meat needle, I mean
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: that is that is a small pool that you have.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: To choose from.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think he's staying here.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I hope so too.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Brace yourself. He might be gone in the off season.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: It depends on how badly he wants to be nearer family.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Apparently they're nowhere. They apparently there's either not been any
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: discussion or there's been an initial discussion, and they might
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: not be anywhere close to what the Gilbert agent thinks
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: he's worth. So you might see it happen this offseason.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: We might have to say goodbye to one of my
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: favorite mariners in Logan Gilbert. But the time to do that,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: surplus of starting pitching or not, because I don't think
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: our deficiencies are so great that we have to have
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: a third basement or have to have a right fielder,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: or have to have a right handed hitting DH. We're
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: not that desperate to move on from Logan Gilbert in
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: the middle of the year. I'll live with my pitching
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: surplus to hold on to Logan till the end of
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: the season at very least.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, and then keep with our plan towards a world championship.
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, for sure. That's the only thing that matters this year.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: All right. Coming up next, Emmanuel Henderson Junior will join
• 23:01
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  Speaker 1: number three and we now have Emmanuel Henderson Junior to
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: discuss here on this radio program and an opportunity to
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: get to know him here on Chuck and Buck. Good morning, sir,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: how are you?
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: Good morning man? How you doing?
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I'm doing great? How's it feel to be a Seahawk? Man?
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: It feels amazing, man. Drenycon true for sure.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: What's it been like since Saturday afternoon? How much has
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: your life changed. How crazy is it gotten?
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: I definitely got crazy. You know, I've been getting congratulated
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: by a lot of people. You know, my phone band
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: blowing us. I was just you know, trying to get
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: back to it as much as possible.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if anybody asks for money, tell them to back off.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: All right, do that for me? All right? Well, take
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: me back to Saturday. What were you going through Saturday morning,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon, waiting for wondering if your name was going
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: to get called? And then lead us all the way
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: up to the moment you did get that call from
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks and John Schneider almost definitely.
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: You know, I had me and my family. We went
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: to Gostors on Alabama on the beach. You know, that's
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: why I had my draft party.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: We had a good time, you know, just beening some
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: quite of time together, you know, watching the Druve, you know,
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: and you know when I got my name call, it
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: was just chaos. You know, everybody's screaming, man, you know.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: And motion started going.
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: You know, it got the crazy experience.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: What does family think about you moving all the way
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: to Seattle, Washington, all the way up into that upper
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: part of the Northwest. What was their reaction to learning
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: where you'd be playing your professional football Oh.
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: They ain't had no problem with it. You know, I
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: have an uncle that lives there. They've been living there
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: for about three or four years now, and they're just
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: really happy. I got the opportunity, you know, to go
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: take my dream.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: What's it like to join a Super Bowl champion? I mean,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: you get to begin your career with the best team
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: in the National Football League? Is that intimidating? Is that exciting?
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: How would you describe that?
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: That's exciting to me. You know, I went to Alabama.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: You know, I have a national championship, So it feels
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: like fresh me all over again, you know.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: So it's very exciting.
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: I can't wait to do it.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: As a guy growing up in Alabama, I know you
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: dream to play at Alabama your entire life. I'm sure
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: you got to play there for a few years and
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: then the move to Kansas. What was the experience like
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: in Kansas that you felt helped prepare you for being
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: a professional football player.
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: It was great. You know, I got to showcase my talent.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: You know, I got the opportunity to go out there
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: and do my thing. So Jaz fairs, you know, just
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: being able to learn more before the NFL. You know,
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: it was a great, you know decision to go there
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: for sure.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Emmanuel Henderson, Junior, our guest picked for the Seahawks on Saturday,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: sixth round out of Kansas, joining us right here on
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Chuck and Buck in the mornings. And I know that
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: you explained your background as a special Teams player. I mean,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: you won Big twelve Special Teams Player of the Week.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I think a couple of times talk about just your
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: special teams experience and your history with it.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: I'm well, definitely. You know, I've been started spec a
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: team since my freshman year of college to my last
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: year of college, so that team is something I definitely embraced,
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: you know, in Marian's value to the table. So you know,
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: I just love doing it, you know, I love everything
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: about it.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: And not just returning kicks, which is sort of the
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: glamour special teams position because you might take one to
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: the house. You love being in coverage, don't.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: You Almost Definitely, you know I've been covering every year
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: my college dread.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Would you rather have a touchdown or a big hit
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: that pops loose a fumble?
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: I do a big hit for the fumble. You know
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: it was for game. You know it was a game
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: changing moment most definitely.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, those are game changing moments, There's no question about it. Uh. Well,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: when do you When do you make your way to
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: uh Seattle? And what's something that you're looking forward to
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: doing when you get up here?
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: Almost definitely? You know, I report Thursday, and you know
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: I got some former teammate that that's on to see.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: How now, Robbie Hut and Jala merro So, anyway to
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: see those guys again?
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Oh? Great? Yeah? Do they have they gonna take you
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: to dinner? Are they going to pick up the bill?
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: We don't know. Yeah, we're gonna see you, man, I
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: see you.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Faith Well, if they're decent men, they do it. I'll
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: tell you that much. Emanuel. You got to welcome the
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: newcomer up here to Seattle. And what about your fellow
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: draft picks that you got taken with by the Seahawks
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: in this draft? Do you know any of them personally
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: have any background with the other Seahawks? Oh?
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Julian Julian Okay, the cornerback we had we trained together.
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: We trained together a pre draft in Dallas. So I've been.
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: I've been. I've been with him for a couple of
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: months now, So that's kind of awesome, you know, to
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: see that we both gonna be taking a jurney together
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: and we was really just training together all a couple
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: of months.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: All right, come on, So that's really that's great. Yeah,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: he's he's fired up to be a Seahawks, There's no
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: question about it. So did you at any time the
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: last couple of days, because I would have done it.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Did you just go to all of your favorite places
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: in Alabama around your friends you grew up with and
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: family members and just shout out, hey, NFL player in
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: the house? Make way you did that? You did some
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: of that.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: I'll definitely definitely well.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Manuel, A pleasure to get to know you a little
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: bit here this morning. Thank you very much for coming
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: on the radio show. I hope you have a great
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: experience as a sea UK and we look forward to
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: meeting you.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: Yes, their appreciated.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: I can't wait to get down.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: There all right. Emmanuel Henderson Junior joining us right here
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: on Chuck and Buck in the morning. Sixth round, Pick
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety ninth overall out of Kansas and man,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: that's got to be music to your ears when you're
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: John Schneider and Mike McDonald. When you hear about a
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: guy that four four forty, that was a top prospect
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: obviously coming out of high school. If you got recruited
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: to Alabama, Ghost Alabama, and yeah, you go to Alabama
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: because you think I'm gonna be a star at Alabama.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the next Davonte Smith. I'm gonna win
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: the Heisman. I'm gonna catch you know, eighty balls a season. Huh.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be damn Forrest Gump. I'm gonna just keep
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: running back touchdown over and over. That's what I'm gonna
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: do at the next level. And then you know, you
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: don't quite achieve that glory status. You end up transferring
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: away to Kansas where you get a little more playing time,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: get a few more touches. You get that one year
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: to show the National Football League that I am worthy
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: of the next league. But along the way, along your path,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: the downs and the highs, the highs and lows, the
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: downs and the ups. Emmanuel Henderson Junior discovered special teams
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: and fell in love with it. Did not treat it
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: like I'm above that. I'm a pass catcher. You know,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Julio Jones didn't return kicks and punts in the National
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Football League. I'm not either. Yeah. No, you get introduced
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: to it, and not only as a returner. He's a
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: gunner on special teams. Fell in love with that. I mean,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: that's music to the ears of Mike mc Yeah.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: I gotta reach the ears of any Seahawks fan.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: I got a receiver who runs a four to four
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: forty that was one time considered like a four to
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: five star recruit at Alabama, and he loves special teams.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: That means there might be some receiver potential to tap into,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: but at the very minimum, what I have is a
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: special teams monster. I don't think anybody in the National
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Football League has been emphasizing that more than what the
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: McDonald Schneider era has been emphasizing. And do not sleep
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: on how valuable that was to the Super Bowl Championship run.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: They've talked about all three phases my entire life. I'm
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: bored with the phrase all three phases because I don't
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: really think that teams fully committed themselves to all three phases.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I ever really did see that
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: all three phases is what won the Super Bowl for
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: a team. It usually was, Yeah, we are decent at
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: all three phases, but we are fantastic at there's one
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: phase over here. But not this team, not the Seahawks.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: This year, they were outstanding in all three phases, and
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: there was no doubt. On Day number three, John Schneider
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: was doubling down on trying to find guys who could
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: be not just special teams contributors, not just willing to
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: play on special teams. I want special teams monsters. I
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: want guys to pair with Tyreese Knight on kick coverage.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: They're just gonna blow a mother blanker up, That's what
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I want. And now you've got a gunner, a speechster,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: and Emmanuel Henderson Junior who's already in love with the idea.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: So that's it. You don't have to convince him that's right,
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  Speaker 1: that's right, and that's that's great. That's music to the
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: ears of John and Mike, and it's the reason they
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: drafted him, I guarantee it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And every Seahawks fan, as I said, should be
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: excited about that, because I mean, if you watched any
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: of last season, you know how important special teams are.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, it certainly was for that team. They were excellent.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: They were excellent in that area. There's no question about it.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: All right, coming up next, you know, we ended up
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, just like the New England Patriots,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: but our head coach didn't have to sleep with a
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: reporter to get there. Mike Rabel and Dianea Russini. There
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: is a suggestion that we're not covering this story enough. Ridiculous, Okay, weird,
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  Speaker 1: but all right, I'll address it. Sports Radio ninety three
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  Speaker 1: point three kJ r.
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  Speaker 5: F M.
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  Speaker 1: Bam, bam bam. By the way, are you gonna go
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: watch that Michael Jackson movie? No, you're not, No no interest.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: No, I don't. I just don't know. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I know that there was some controversy about things that
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: got left out and things like that, and now they're
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: saying that maybe they set it up for like the
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: second part of it, which would then be I don't know,
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  Speaker 3: I don't, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Just seems like being talked about everywhere.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: It does it positively, but it got horrible reviews. It
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: is start but then like broke records.
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  Speaker 3: Huh, I don't know, crazy, it's all over the place
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: you see it.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know there's a lot to it. I
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: think I probably will because I do. I just I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I just I kind of just categorize. I mean, that
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: guy's an entertainer. For me, he's not raising my children.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: He's not going to be around my children. I don't
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: even have.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Children, except for your fake daughter.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: But but I've just I don't have never put athletes
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: on a pedestal. I don't put actors, I don't put singers.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: So I just have always kind of separated it, Like
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I want to see his musical quest and I get
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: that there's some personal stuff that I probably detest. But
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: I may not even know the whole story. Who knows.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: But the point is that I can kind.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Of separate the Yeah, and I will say this, I
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: love his music and I listen to his music. I
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: just I don't like I don't really ever watch any
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: of those music biopics.
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  Speaker 2: It just doesn't interest me.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Oh really, yeah, yeah, No, you didn't watch Johnny Cash. No, Oh,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: I think you're making a mistake.
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  Speaker 2: Probably has a lot of other movies that I have
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  Speaker 2: to watch.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: They make too many of them. Now, I'll give you that,
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  Speaker 1: But when they but the ones that are done well
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: are really done well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure they are. It's just not really my
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: cup of tea.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: So this isn't any different than those, And then I
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: so had the yeah, it's not any different than the others.
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  Speaker 2: I just haven't.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know. It does seem to be there's
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: some controversy around it, but but ma'am, what a talented person.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Probably the most talented person we've ever ever ever come
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: across is Michael j And his name was Michael, so
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Diana Russini probably slept with him at some point. So
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Robert Griffin the Third put out a tweet yesterday and
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: again I try not to I really do. I try
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: to separate myself. I'm not going to act like because
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: one person tweets something out that everybody's talking about it.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of talk shows do that, and
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I think that's a mistake. But certainly, I mean, I
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: heard I wasn't going to talk about it, and then
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: I heard it being discussed on the drive in, and
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, So I wasn't the only person that
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: saw this, and it's not just him. I've seen a
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: few other people suggested as well, that why aren't we
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: talking as much about Russini and Frabel as we have
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: about other similar incidents from the past, And he listed
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: off Udoka, and he listed off Sharon More, and he
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: listed off Clay and Megan, that we're covering these from
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: the from twenty four to seven NonStop, but we're not
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: shedding true light on the Russini rape? Are you?
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Where's how far.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Is your head buried in the sand? I can't go
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: anywhere without Rabel and Russini being covered or talked about now,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: certainly not at ESPN.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: And that's probably their issue.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: They're burying it. But if that's what you're trying to do,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: then direct your criticism towards ESPN. You don't have an
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: affiliation with them anymore, So why don't you just direct?
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Because that's what you're really trying to say? Why is
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: ESPN covering this up? Why aren't they talking about it enough? Well,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: because they're covering it up. Because they're covering it up, right,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: they are. They're literally covering it up. But my goodness,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: you can't you can't click, you can't open your computer
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: without seeing an update on this. This is the most
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: reported on, most discussed most hammered thing that I can
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: remember in in sports. I mean it was there was
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: we were doing draft coverage and it's like, should I
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: be talking about Russini and Vrabel? It seems like that's
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: all anyone wants to discuss on social media. So I
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: don't get where anybody's coming from that they think that
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: the media is covering up for Vrabel and Russini because
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: that just is not happening.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: No, And I think there was definitely there has been
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: cover up of it because now it's coming out that
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: they think that or they're saying most NFL coaches knew
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: about it and it was just kind of the thing
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: that nobody talked about. So there's that aspect, But that's
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: not the media covering it up. That's other people covering
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: it up.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: And there are individuals that are covering it up. Yes,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: and they're announcing that we're covering I mean ESPN is
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: not announced it, but we can read between the lines.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: But like Nan LeBatard and Stu Gotts and guys like
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: that are like, she's my friend, I'm not going to
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: talk about it. Yeah, so they are announcing no, I'm
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: not going to talk about it because I am personally
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: involved in the story, and I don't want to want
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: to discuss it. Certainly some there's some of that. For
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: anyone to say that any of those three stories, oh
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: my gosh, have been discussed more than Russini and Vrabel.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, you have an agenda against ESPN. I understand
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: why you do, but make it about them, right, just
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: call them out, don't don't call out the entire media
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: like we're scared to discuss this topic because that's insane.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: It makes you look like an insane person.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Well, it wouldn't be the first time.
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  Speaker 1: We've been covering that up for years. We've been wanting
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: to talk about RG three has lost his marbles, but
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: unfortunately we are just not fair journalists, so we've been
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: covering it up for years.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: So now the cat's out of the bag.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what's going on here. But anyway, I
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: even saw yesterday speaking of not covering it up, there
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: was I mean that legitimate speculation that we haven't heard
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: the end of this. Rabel's going to continue to look
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: worse than this, and that it might end with him
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: walking away because right now you've got media sources following
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: his wife. Yeah, the true victim in all of this.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, his wife and kids should not be brought into
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: any of this.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and now they're following her to the airport. Agreed, Yeah, agreed.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they'd had nothing to do with it. This is
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: about Russini and Rabel and that is it.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Uh huh. And you can come after them. I'm not
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: going to say all you want too.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, but if you're going to talk about it,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: talk about them.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it's so big that we have media
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: outlets following Mike Rabel's presumably innocent wife and a really
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: obviously wretched state of emotions being followed in the airport
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: by TMZ. Yeah, that's how much it is getting.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: To TMZ, who wouldn't cover the story at first until
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: like a week later, when then they're like, okay, well
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: now it's so big, we have to cover it.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: And now they're the ones that are going to follow
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: his wife. I mean that's gross.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it does. I mean when it first came out,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: I thought, oh, no, Rabel's fine. But the more we
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: hear and how long it's been going on, and the
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: information that people are uncovering that she shared and now
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: we know who the source was, and how it got
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: out there and how it might have manipulated free agency
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: or it might have manipulated trade value. She had ap votes, Yeah,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: stuff like that. I mean, she's she's cooked. But in
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: terms of Rabel, whether or not Raye should be held
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: accountable for this, it's looking worse and worse. And now
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: that if he has to face another layer of embarrassing
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: truths that potentially could come out, then maybe he would
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: just want to step out of the public eye for
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: a little while and may give up his dream job
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: in order to do it. So we shall see. But yes,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: satisfied RG three. We talked about it.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. We stopped covering it up.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: We stopped all of our talking about Sharon more.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's endless to.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Make sure that we satisfied your desire for more Vrabel
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: and Russini content. This as a quick aside. Yeahoo. Sports
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: is announcing that ESPN's finalizing a deal with Ian Ferness's
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: friend Ian Rappaport. Looks like he's moving to ESPN and
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: apparently the main reason they hired him hasn't slept with
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Mike Rabel.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well that's a good reason or someone.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's now the top of the list.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Now it's a smaller pool to choose from you.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: If so, if you have that at the buried at
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: the bottom of your resume, put that near the top
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: these days.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, or that up there, either Rabel or Rassini, either one.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: I'll get you far if you haven't slept with them.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, some big font on that. Just slide it right
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: up that resume.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you know, if you're a coach, make
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: sure you say you haven't slept with Diana. And if
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: you're a reporter, make sure you say you haven't slept
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: with Rabel.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: All right, Coming up next, Ryan Healy is going to
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: join us here on the program. We'll talk to Mariners
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Baseball with the former Mariner on Sports Radio ninety three
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