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The Silver Swan by Amo Jones - Part 2 · Lose the Plot with Carla and Emily

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Hi friends. You're listening to lose the pot
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with color and Emily. Welcome to part 2 of reading the
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Silver Swan by Mo Jones. We are covering chapters 21 to
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30 in this episode. So warning there will be
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spoilers Before we begin talking about
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this book, Please be aware that the story brings up topics
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related to sexual assault and rape and we will be discussing
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this. I'm Carla, I love animals more
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than I love people. I mean, my family have only ever
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hunted deer unless it was duck shooting, I'm Emily, there are
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humans and there are wolves and then there is me a fucking God.
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Okay, where did we leave off in part 1?
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No way. Yeah, it was kind of like the
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dad getting up them about the party, but not.
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Yeah, the the camping, sorry. Oh yeah.
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Yeah. D for the camp.
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Okay. Yeah, that's where we were.
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I'm refreshed now, I'm there love that.
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I didn't speed read it before and just forget again.
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For anyone reading at home, this is chapter 21 on Words, twice of
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the end of this book and the reason why we have to stop it at
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21 which seem so awkward. Why are you doing nine?
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Chapters is because the pacing was really off.
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It's so off. We just went by page number to
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split it half way so that at least the content would be
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similar. That's why we're doing 21:30 to
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be fair. I should add.
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Also I think we're going to drag a bit on maybe her writing.
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Well, I definitely will but it's not Because she's bad writer.
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It's just her writing. Preference is not for me, but I
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officer preference. Is it a preference?
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No, it's preference for other people.
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It's just not preference for me. Okay, that's fine.
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Even though I picked it, it's okay.
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I won't hold a grudge against you picking this book forever.
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No big deal. Okay, so they were getting ready
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for camping but I wasn't really clear.
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What the camping plan was like, what the camping is for
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speakers? Were they going with that guy?
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Friend of hers? So they were going out for
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Halloween with Carter. And that's the camping trip.
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That's what I thought it was. But then why did all the boys
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have to come? I do.
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Yeah, that's what I thought. She was weird about her not
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being able to go but then she invited them all.
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So I don't know who she didn't. She invite Nate essentially like
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the ringleader is no, it's not even Nate.
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It's Bishop. But yeah, well, I thought the
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whole point was to go with Carter to make bishop jealous
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that was initially the point. Yeah, the writing style bugs me
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because it literally is not consistent.
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This is the consistency of something, and then Madison
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acts, completely different and then we go, huh?
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Yeah. But this, she'll be like
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thinking I had, I don't want them to go and they shall invite
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them all. And it does not make sense,
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makes sense for ask the reader. That's just scrambling to figure
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out. Does she like them or not?
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Then she does for the Of that trip.
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She's not going out for Halloween camping in the middle
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of nowhere. That's 45 minutes out of town.
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It's going to be in the dark. They're just going out there to
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drink and whatever can we start there?
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Because you're going in the middle of the woods, for a drink
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up, for a piss-up, essentially, with your other teenage friends,
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right. Why the fuck you driving your
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dad's Aston Martin middle of the would like, why are you doing a
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lot of things? Why is it really getting in at
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the gym? And before you drive out, 45
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minutes is not really well. Then like, do you know me?
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Why are you going alone? That's what I mean.
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Just go with everyone and skip the gym fucking take pictures of
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the book. You're trying to read if you
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don't want people to know, she's got to get in that book time in
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that gym. Time than good swim.
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I'm not even a scary that is, it's very reminiscent of her
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going in the middle of the night to try and help Nate on her own
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in the car. Again, I just panicky in the
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middle of nowhere. It's like it.
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She only has two brain cells and they just fight and she can't
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really put together how she feels about anything or what she
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wanted together. She's a dumb bitch.
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Should what kind of star sign is medicine at this point.
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Like, just on sign, let's not get dramatic.
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Like what is T, which is the most I'm sorry inconsistent.
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She doesn't even know she's scrambling.
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She doesn't even know when she's probably born.
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He's like scrambled eggs. So she goes alone even though
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she doesn't technically know what campsite it is either, she
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doesn't know where it is, and she doesn't seem like, she knows
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how to use Google Maps, she knows how to use a compass.
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She's like standing out in the middle of nowhere.
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All the full moon, the Southern Cross.
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This is, I mean, I'm out here in the wilderness, just pitch black
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sheep shit. What if she had Captain Jack,
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Sparrow's magical Kono? Then at least she might be able
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to find should be running. To that rum.
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She was essentially, I suppose so the boys jump her again.
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Yeah, for the were eighth time this point.
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Oh my God. Is she even surprised anymore
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turnover by. She's like, who's there?
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It's like, who else? No one else gets a shit about
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you? Girl, he died.
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Doesn't your dad's not in the picture.
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He's not even home. Stepmom barely knows you exist.
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She just gets jumped again and then they start harassing her
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questioning her, and they will sort of physically holding her
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down and shit. Again again, I couldn't believe
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that they were kind of jumping her and they'll basically
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expecting her to have military-grade secrets the way
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that those really her dry humping her at the same time.
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So just dry-hump the answers out of it.
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I just her but then they They they consistently act like she
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knows everything but then says she knows nothing as if they're
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fully convinced that she knows nothing.
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Which one is it? It's, it's giving nothing.
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It's giving nothing. See, I know the answers for
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that, but we're going to talk about it all of the end.
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But it's kind of like at this point of the book, you're
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interrogating her, but then also calling her a dumb bitch for
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knowing nothing but also she knows too much.
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I know they honestly really think she knows their whole
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life. Why would she do at this point
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in the book? Why would she?
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She's just a girl. She's just I'm just covering the
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world stop. I love how like anytime they
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think she knows something to she'll have a Little Giggle and
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should be like oh you just do underground racing and they're
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like, haha, yeah, that's what we do, it's not what they do, but
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but then they're like they still old man.
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Dude, dude. I'm sorry, but I do it again.
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I think in the end book and they're like, interrogating her
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again, and she knows nothing in there, like cool far out, then
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this so surprised that she knows nothing.
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So anyway, the dry humping is a good knees and her back in her
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spine. Yeah, she doesn't even know
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who's helping her anymore. I don't even I didn't even think
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I knew hahaha. So, basically, Bishop is
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revealing himself to be the stalker that's been harassing
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her on the phone. Yeah.
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Scary movie star. Okay.
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Like I don't understand his harassment because the riddles
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don't make sense. No, and so Madison is acting
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completely unfazed, even though she was acting before hand, I
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really need to know who's doing these prank calls on me.
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It's trying to threaten me. And then when it's revealed that
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it was Bishop, she's like schmear.
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It's my he's like, uh, yeah, it's about time.
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My boyfriend. Finally, he's interested in me
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he could be bothered to have a fake phone number or private.
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Number be calling her all times of the day Thro.
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Yeah yeah. She's like sure.
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Me, sure. He's made time for me.
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I'll special good. Oh my god.
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In Spanish so Spanish, I'm not like other girls but remember,
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he's not here. This ship is picky and that's
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why it's you guys not a whole lot.
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He's not. It's even better if you get
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Cherry Picked by him because he's not like other boys.
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It's not like other boys and she felt like other going on.
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Okay, so what's even the fucking point of having a gun?
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If someone snatches it with him, put five of the same?
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I mean, I thought she was supposed to be like a gun,
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sealing up the Gun Slinger. Actually I want to point out
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something that really annoyed me.
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And this entire bit the very American was as she's like It's
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not guns that kill people. It's people with gun.
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The people killing people that, hang on.
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Let me find it. It's so stupid.
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It's not people, it's guns its guns.
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It's not because people it was something.
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Oh my God, guns don't kill people, people kill people guns,
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are there to protect people who need to be protected from people
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who kill people. Also, it's actually, if you have
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a garden, you intend to kill someone with it.
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You're not allowed to because truce, but you can only using
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done against a person. If they were already trying to
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kill you first. Yeah, problem solve it probably
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was a gun. Yes, exactly.
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America. That's my Looks like that's
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basically the logic. So you get zip-tied within 5
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Seconds. Anyway, she's so slow.
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Why bring it? I thought she was going to the
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gym. It's just going to get my
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slogan. Stir the gun.
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Oh yeah. No point bringing it.
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I would have shot them all my Firefly.
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It would Wane in. I was shot everyone.
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So yeah, so you bitch. Well, she doesn't really make
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action though. She just is all talk.
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I mean, And the whole like my daddy says, if you don't have
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the balls to shoot someone and she's like, I got big balls
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right now, good for you, you don't, she would have less
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people to aim out if she just hit them with her car.
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The first time exactly what she's got.
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The Aston so she doesn't make any dents, right?
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I didn't I wonder if like that was then getting rid of her the
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bigger car. We'll probably because wasn't it
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as Shifty reason. Why she was even using that car
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in the first place? The fuel pump was broken, my dad
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doesn't care. Do they have like 11 cars?
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Anyway, they're going to love and car garages.
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So why do you have to bring the most this stupidest car to go in
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the middle of the woods? Imagine it's like, I know, it's
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not like the car in Harry Potter but it's just like Club over and
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over. Oh yeah.
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Those toys are not made for that.
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They're not made for our food. Exactly.
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Literally, that's how I imagined her driving through the
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Forbidden Forest like the punk, punk.
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Yes. Oh my God.
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So it's giving when Riverdale had the fake cult gang thing,
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God, and all of the forest, whatever the fuck.
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Oh no, it's giving that. Oh my god, do you think?
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Yeah, it's giving. Yeah but it's not it's not
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because he's always giving is dry-humping just dry humping.
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It's such a fear tactic Rah dude I'd be scared.
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If it was me now, be like, oh no, then they like one non
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stupid of the seven. So many, there's so many just
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too many. It's like, maybe she's telling
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the truth and it's like, she's got rocks in those.
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But do they even really care what she's saying?
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But I don't really seem to care. No, it's all about the body.
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The body Audiology. Can I just complain about
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something for a moment that I feel like I didn't cover
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properly in part one. Yeah, go for it.
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He was just the huge insult Vibes that they all keep forcing
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the kitten nickname. Oh my God picked it up.
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Yeah, it's giving huge insulin for Dora Vibes and then she
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refers to herself as kitten. I'm like don't try and make it a
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thing, Kitty's, not a thing since When did Nate have wolf
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colored eyes? Like a, we going a Twilight
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Direction? Where is this going?
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Actually, it kind of gives that Vibe sometimes.
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But what like, Nate, he seems like the whitest guy ever.
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You're imagining blue, right? Yeah.
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Not wolf-like blue sir. Free kind of.
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Yeah. You know what I mean?
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He's like, what you would imagine a crumpet to look like
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if they were person giving beige, Pump it.
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I didn't even I must escape that.
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Oh, it was just in there a probably traumatize me.
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It's probably what I'm not gonna lie.
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I want to know how many variations of I don't know what
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the fuck you mean. Madison has to say to them to
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get them off her case because she said that many times I know
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I don't know what you mean. What the fuck?
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You mean like that and then one will be like oh maybe she
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doesn't know maybe she doesn't know what our mood and they're
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like, no. She knows everything.
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She's practically the CEO. At this point.
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Can we stop with the bad dream? Yeah, I guess this was my
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witness on the stand and be like bedroom objection.
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Badgering the witness. No cash, literally tries to get
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Nate and Bishop to think maybe she doesn't know anything, but
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he doesn't actually intervene and that's enough for Madison to
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like him a little bit more. That's, that's something that
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that's what I was talking about that sad because medicai Shine
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cash. He's a good guy, but he doesn't
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even need to be. He's so good one.
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He's just watching them continue.
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Yeah, and he's like, maybe she doesn't, I think he see older
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generation, so he's not technically their generation.
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Oh what's he even doing, huh? You know, this is doing with
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these kids. Trying to catch a case out here
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is cash I might be wrong. Oh well they're all the same.
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They're all the same. No faceless nobodies there's no
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character development apart from Nate and Bishop it's really
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centered around. Nate Bishop Maddie and then
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kadem yeah, he didn't a tan like she gets a bit screwed over in
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her character because she started off pretty strong and
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then she just disappeared off the face of the Earth.
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Yeah, because Nate didn't want her anymore.
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She was just Ariel to the story. Yeah, pretty much.
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And it was kind of like, what was the point of that?
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I think it was the point of that was so that the author could
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almost make fun of her for becoming a slot for having sex
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while the scales of worse. Like it literally gets worse.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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I know. So they start sort of talking.
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I think it's between Nate and Bishop.
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They were talking about like whatever the BET was or
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something. Yeah I bet it just literally was
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whoever bangs her first wins. I just yeah, like how much more
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simpler could it be. It's exactly.
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The plotline of my every teenager.
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I'm like our route is it though? Because you got Nate, they say
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that shit and then you've got Nate saying something straight
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after. Like if you make her cry I'm
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gonna put in a swing and it's like you can't have it both
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ways. So you can't like try sleep with
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her for a bed and then pretend you give a shit pretend you're
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give a shit. Well, it was objectifying her in
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front of her and everyone else around.
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Yeah. And she fails to identify that
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as being a bad thing. I just don't think she knows.
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Like, I just don't think she's aware.
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Yeah I mean we're character is written sorry.
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Did see. Mmm but then so smart in other
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ways and they sort of stop interrogating, her.
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I assume they take the zip ties off again.
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It's low-key, fine that she was kidnapped, assaulted and
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sexually, and then she just walks.
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Yeah, she's like cool time to party.
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Whereas I would have gotten car and went home and then pack my
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shit and probably moved, I probably would have grabbed a
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friend and said, let's get the fuck out of here.
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We're driving home. Yeah, but instead she does the
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exact opposite and she has As sex immediately with Bishop.
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What the hell was that about? You can't be like, stand your
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ground. She literally said, you'll never
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touch me again. Never let him touch you again.
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When did she even say that? Was it recently?
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It was when she was tied to the tree, you gotta hold your
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ground. Girl, would you gotta she lost
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it a second? Make him wait.
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Oh, I'm such a petty person. If anyone did that shit to me, I
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would never see them again. If they did have a shit, but if
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I told someone you're never touching me again, I think that
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to the Grave Clearly there's like a billion people in the
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world that can talk to you instead of like I mean, doesn't
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have to be this he's short he's got a whole crew.
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They're all the same anyway. They probably look all the same
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and so I okay so I had to just highlight this morning is it was
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too much? Sorry, I'm not so bad you're my
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Nemesis who I always get panty lists.
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Oh my God I actually creating changed basically.
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Why do I think I had to put it down that would Give me the egg,
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this man would give me the egg but how does he what?
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Like she said, they're about to hook up again and he's like,
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Hank. Is that good?
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It's not enemies lovers. Are you kidding?
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It doesn't make. There's no reason to be like
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you're looking at me like it's just still doesn't make sense.
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And I know if the reason so dude, I feel like, even if you
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were painting, listen, that moment you got to pull them back
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up and get out the tent go. My vagina would Stitch itself
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Could be holed up closed for business ties.
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There's no there's no vagina here know what?
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Come on. Oh and freeway, I just can't
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believe like her. He says that it was the worst
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thing I've ever experienced and I experienced it twice because I
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had to do a refresher and when I heard it this time I was like
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there was nothing sexy about that sex scene.
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You know how sometimes in a book you can understand Maybe that's
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sex scenes not for me, but it might be sexy for people or one
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of the out there was nothing to appreciate here.
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Hmm. It's really hard to like, read a
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book about teenagers with sex scenes in it because you want to
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be disgusted that they're teenagers and you're reading
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about it, but your like we get in through the book.
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So you just pretend that they're not teenagers.
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Yeah. But to be fair, she wrote them
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like know teenagers. I've ever heard of before the
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things that they say it. But that's what I just assumed
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that they all roll around in like Pastel colored polos.
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They are doing an awful lot of cringey talking just off the bat
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where did all this weird creepy, affectionate talk how to smoke a
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joint was like enough to make me want to put the book down again.
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This was kind of like the other sex scene, how it just ended
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right as it sounded like there was starting to get into it.
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It just sort of hinted. Yeah, I'm like huh.
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And then they were walking out of the tent and then rejoining
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group immediately. Lee while she had no underwear
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on. It was like no sex though, the
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sex started. And it wasn't a Fade to Black,
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like time passed. It was like, okay, we're done,
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we're done, we're done. So we get outside of the sex
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scene, and Nate's, like Pinder Torah tree again, like that
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wasn't traumatic. The first time you did it, she
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trusts me. And then he goes, and does this
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shit anyway, he wouldn't trust him.
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Then, you know, it's a bit of a, like, abusive relationship.
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Um, he's and he's harassing her about everything that she
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apparently. Is yeah, but then he says
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there's so much she doesn't know.
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Hmm. And again he's giving nothing.
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It was driving me insane because I'm like, haven't we had this
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conversation? A hundred times already.
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Yeah and then Nate says you're going to die context.
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Please tell me why so I can prevent myself lying old age or
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like I mean I've will eventually be what what's our timeline?
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What's our time frame like? What do you know that you're not
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telling me? Apparently.
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What is it? That he knows she should start.
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Flipping the script and start interrogating, all this stupid
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asses and zip tying them, I would me.
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I mean she could at this point though they were all scared of
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her originally when they thought she was going around, killing
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people. Exactly, I don't know if much
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happened that night. Apart from the cringy, then
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smoking weed together Tilly group sex till he had sex, made
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some of the things they say just make me want to hell and Carter
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was like a non-event. He was supposed to make thing, I
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jealous. What was the point that he's
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just not? She's to into bishop and they
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can, she's just not, but I don't know if we're supposed to ask
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the audience, like Bishop, is he supposed to be the sultry bad
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boy that we're kind of rooting for because he's not.
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I don't think he is in this book but you kind of do in the second
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I think is second or third. Okay, all right, because at this
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point I'm like I fucking hate Bishop.
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So the next day this is still the camping trip.
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They're just casually hanging out in the water.
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She never mentions the trauma that she's dealt with, she just
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doesn't care. R.
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I don't think she fully accepts. It I'd be bitching to my
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friends, all the next day and saying I'm leaving early.
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If I got harassed multiple times a night before.
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Oh, you could have literally told me that second and we would
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already be in the car but I know we would have slept in the car
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and then less exactly. Like why give these guys the
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time of day Bishops in the water.
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The way that I cringe when he was licking the lake water off
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his lip. Oh my God, there's so many
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things that made me cringe and it was like Started with the
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board shorts and don't give us board shorts.
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Don't I do reckon board shorts and Walker in G to Australians
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because the ones that they sell here are so foul.
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Yes. Yeah.
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They're very like colorful and gross grow back where these like
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dad's fully wear these but then they look like they should be on
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a two-year-old. All they wear the ones with dull
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half-naked women printed on them you know the ones.
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Yeah so anytime I pitch a board shorts.
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I picture the half-naked women. The airbrush Women with the
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titties. Yeah.
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The ones from City Beach like I lay still think, yes, they are.
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Sadly, no, absolutely not. So back to the top clicking
23:11
before we go licking the dirty like water off his lips, not the
23:16
parasite. T just ingested, I figured
23:19
straight into his dick. He deserves those little fish
23:24
dick thing. I hope he goes home and he's
23:32
peeing blood. So they're like chilling out in
23:37
the water and then she was supposed to be all like
23:40
complimented that he came over to her.
23:42
Yeah. Uses her like a goddamn like
23:46
watching a call it that is no exactly.
23:53
And you exactly what you meant. I just it slipped my mind.
23:57
He literally uses her like a Fleshlight and she's surprised
24:01
when he comes over. Oh yeah.
24:04
And she's like, oh my God, out of all the people that are here
24:07
it's what it's just chili and tight only being fucked by Nate.
24:11
Anyway hmm I thought take him wasn't it?
24:13
No Tatum is that that's all good.
24:15
She got fucked by j.j. so hunter in the tent while they Were all
24:23
in there. Could I?
24:24
That's what I hated when they started writing about, Tatum
24:26
that way. Because I'm like, she get a room
24:29
girl. Why would she?
24:31
Ya know, like good for her? Sure.
24:32
But she literally is in the tent.
24:34
She's like, I'm sorry like mid sex and it's like, oh, you just
24:38
wait till everyone's drunk and then go elsewhere.
24:41
Do the boys, not have their own 10.
24:43
There's like, 10 of them. Are they all just sleeping
24:45
outside or keys? So then she's getting fucked on
24:48
the Rock again. Rock.
24:53
Hey Emily. Did you know?
24:55
Did you know fun fact that the opposite of cock block is cock
25:02
bait? Oh my God, I don't even know
25:06
what that Vision called her cock bait.
25:09
No not the chart. I thought she said that someone
25:13
said I swear she said is this your cock block?
25:16
Because she said hoo ha she called it her heart and she's
25:21
like you know, The opposite to Cock bait.
25:24
I'm like, I don't even know what cut bait means.
25:27
Everyone knows what called book is, we are Bishop we don't need
25:30
coke bait to let us not miss blockers.
25:33
Have all the boys born in the 1900s.
25:36
Wait, so she called it her hoo-ha.
25:39
Yeah. And he was like, don't call it
25:41
your hoo-ha. Absolutely.
25:48
It's okay. So he's like kitty, don't call
25:50
it a hoo-ha. The way I would have thrown my
25:55
phone out the window. Considering how cheesy is?
26:00
I like he is so complain about hoo-hah.
26:03
Mmm, he hasn't always stand on. He's a massive hoo-hah.
26:12
Walking bottom, dude, but it's because of the source material,
26:19
ah, by the end of this episode, we just going to be going
26:22
through, huh? It's gonna make sense.
26:27
We're gonna be like cook baby. Who, who is she?
26:32
She's just not like other girls. Shit.
26:36
So what was up with that sex scene?
26:38
Because I kind of all right, these okay.
26:40
So this next scene, the thing that I thought of which was
26:42
really funny. What is with books that
26:45
sometimes have girls having immediate orgasm zero effort?
26:49
It's not real. Is it just because they're bad
26:51
at writing a sex scene so they just want to escalate it quickly
26:54
quickly. No.
26:55
Because there's like people, I reckon that because you read
26:58
other books and now they put the full effort in.
27:01
Yeah. But, you know, she's on a rock
27:04
and she's just orgasm in five. Seconds later, I mean with your
27:07
like with my unless you had like a thing for pain I suppose.
27:11
Yeah, you know like when you're having sex my back was on fire
27:17
from all the scratches on the Rock.
27:19
I would not be. We talked about, we talked and
27:21
smooth Rock. We took an oath because she
27:23
Jagged Edge Jagged Edge because she gets up and he's like shit
27:27
and she's like, it will heal like he cared the first couple
27:29
of times - like fully office. She's a little heel.
27:35
You can actually imagine see department has spun popping up
27:44
and he's like Get Naked a bit like.
27:51
Wasn't that sick seen over really quick too?
27:53
Because I couldn't quite picture what was even happening, you
27:55
know, I sex scene, you can kind of maybe even imagine what
27:59
they're doing. I'm sure work out how she there
28:02
was a bit worried. She was like he Lifted Me Above
28:05
The water does that mean his waist was above the water?
28:08
Because it seems like his face was in the water face first into
28:18
the water like She's like on the rock.
28:56
He's doing that. So he's looking for his Ransom
28:59
and then he's doing like the little shark fin, Eliza things
29:03
like do Nana. What you up Maddie?
29:09
Oh shit. Anyway another sexy that was
29:11
prematurely over imagine Bishop saying that kidnapping and
29:16
sexual assaulting her is quote unquote would your own good?
29:20
Oh my God. Absolutely and they collectively
29:23
don't even want to be doing it but she's not ready to know the
29:26
truth, I mean. Yeah.
29:28
But also he's all-knowing and God like, oh my God, that
29:31
reminds me of the, on the Rock, the tattoo, what's with these
29:35
tattoo? What was it again?
29:36
It's something like Tommy embarrassing.
29:38
No doubt. It was it was like there's
29:40
wolves are as people something and then there's me God.
29:44
Like the way I would actually kill myself by a friend.
29:54
So are you killing yourself? You're not the one with that
29:57
tattoo. I-i'm not in the air, like you
30:00
would do me. I would never if a man ever said
30:04
that to me, that's what would tell you, Don, their body.
30:07
Didn't she see it? And then have sex with him.
30:08
Oh yeah, she's like, oh, of course you do.
30:13
Ha ha I would run. I would run.
30:17
It's just like, he's just saying, oh, hey, it's all good.
30:21
That we did that because it's through your own good.
30:23
I mean, Like credit a groomer 101 or something.
30:26
Yeah, blaming the person who is being groomed, hmm, I hate how
30:34
old she fucking wants to do is read a stupid cult book and
30:38
she's only you know, she's only doing it to appear different.
30:41
She's like all my friends are dumb.
30:43
Skanks, she's having more sex than any of them put together.
30:46
I know, she literally goes. I think my friends are whores
30:49
and he's like, yeah, they are. Well, what are they really just
30:53
lost her? Virginity like a week ago.
30:55
Give her a break and she's the one banging a guy that doesn't
30:58
even like her left, right and Center.
31:00
I know, doesn't matter have this sex as much as you want, enjoy
31:05
it like as long as it's consensual like fucking relax.
31:08
What you gonna do, audit your friends for the rest of their
31:10
lives but she says it all the time like I don't like it just
31:13
keeps going like she's like all their skates and it's like girl
31:16
you just got fucked on a rock. Exactly.
31:19
Dirty water. Yeah, I mean, if we're comparing
31:23
exact if we're slut I mean, yeah, I know would flood this
31:27
needs to be that mean we're that guys looking in the mirror and
31:29
pointing, as I was reading the book, I was really confused by
31:33
all the slut talk. Why does he all to keep going on
31:36
and on and on about who's a slot, everyone's asleep at me so
31:39
that's not something I'm gonna like it never ended.
31:41
They know it doesn't and that's the thing.
31:43
Like I don't know if it was just a her trying to get into like
31:46
the teenage character or if she would that misogynistic.
31:48
I feel like teenagers don't even care that much.
31:51
I'm not even that judgmental been a while for me.
31:55
It's been a while since I was a teenager.
31:56
But why would you turn around and care that much about your
31:59
friends is sex lives that you're constantly calling them slots is
32:02
what I mean? I mean, wouldn't you be happy
32:04
for them? You just beat rolling with it
32:06
for the tea. Yeah, I'd like get it.
32:08
Girl. Come back with some stories.
32:09
Yeah, you wouldn't be like, everyone's us lat.
32:12
Well, that's gonna tilian title mob.
32:14
A kind of like come back with all the stories.
32:16
Yeah, and then she goes and participate though, she doesn't
32:18
tell them. She's the worst friend fucker.
32:21
She doesn't spill any tea. How dare she Doesn't know what
32:24
the fuck's going on. Even, she doesn't even know.
32:28
So they get home and Nate's fucking someone.
32:33
He's room and it's Tilly, right? And Bishop kind of ring.
32:37
Since like a packed bag. Be ready in five minutes, no
32:39
context given. And she like, barges in there,
32:42
like, we need to go and five minutes and dates.
32:45
Like no, we don't. And then Bishop comes in and
32:48
they leave, but they weren't going to take Tilly, and then
32:51
everyone was like, no she needs to go.
32:53
She's been Fucking around with me.
32:55
She needs to go. Yeah but then she's like come on
32:58
chilly. Let's go randomly to somewhere.
33:00
We don't even know what's going on.
33:02
I mean yeah then off they go off.
33:04
They go for a five-hour drive Bishop could just say drop your
33:08
panties and run around in a circle.
33:10
This Mike, we've gotta leave immediately dive off the roof.
33:13
She would she would, it's just dumb.
33:15
She's not learning anything that there's zero character
33:18
development. No, see.
33:20
If someone she got worse, she started off like I'm I'm
33:24
different and I at least know guns and I don't try and people
33:27
are key and then now she just trust anyone.
33:30
Yeah, reason for no reason. Ridiculous.
33:34
I mean, if you were like getting kidnapped consistently from this
33:37
these people. Why would you get in the car
33:39
with them willing? What does having sex with this
33:41
person like twice change? I know.
33:45
Well, she trusts people then Nate had to just do bare minimum
33:49
stuff and she's like, I love him because he's my brother.
33:52
I mean it wasn't the third day in on her being there just like
33:55
they would never do that. Oh yeah.
33:57
You don't even know this kid, your stepbrothers trying to fuck
34:00
you like every step of the way. Ready like the number-one friend
34:05
Fat flag. Number one, is he made a bet to
34:07
see who could fuck you first and you think he cares to be fair.
34:12
He had the upper hand with that bit too because he physically is
34:16
there. So he thought he could probably
34:18
do it before Bishop code because just proximity.
34:20
Yeah. Well, it's surprise for that bit
34:23
her vagina. I know.
34:27
So there isn't like they're driving to Urgent random
34:30
location it randomly. Haitian which is Bishops cabin
34:35
family cabin in the middle of nowhere.
34:37
But what it's like a five hour drive and they'll like they'll
34:43
check all the boys houses first and then they'll come here
34:48
laughs. I'm like if you've been here for
34:49
five hours it probably takes about five minutes for them to
34:53
check all the people's houses and then they only been four
34:57
hours behind you, not over an hour behind you.
35:01
But have they ever heard of Can you just ask them, like guys,
35:04
are you good? Do we have to escape, but
35:06
whatever, my alway all of them, right?
35:14
And also, you're in a, in a car together for five hours and
35:17
still, no one can give you answers.
35:18
Absolutely. Like, I have appointments
35:21
scheduled tomorrow, I have to go to sleep.
35:23
The way. I would be so annoying, that I
35:24
would ask so many questions into.
35:27
I'll be there yet. I'll be there, I'll be there.
35:29
Yeah, just on repeat, like what are they gonna do?
35:31
Nothing. More than what they have done.
35:33
Yeah. So for me reading this book, I
35:36
was getting really tired of miscellaneous.
35:38
Emergencies, / reasons to kidnap / assault, there's no
35:43
connection. It's just all over the place.
35:46
And there's only so many times you can really pull that in a
35:50
book. Yeah, this is what the fucking
35:53
fourth time that they've whisked her away or, and I mean, they
35:57
just go home after and then there's never resolution.
36:00
Yeah, it's like, oh, it's okay. Safe now, it's just like, well,
36:04
why couldn't you just fucking ride down the road?
36:06
Half an hour to these? Why wouldn't the why can't you
36:10
just go camping? Half an hour away.
36:11
Why did it have to be five hours?
36:13
Literally just came home from camping.
36:15
Yeah. So there was a real safety issue
36:17
and they tell the parents Madison takes a random drink
36:20
from Bishop at this point. Would you even trust him not to
36:22
root for you at any time? Absolutely not.
36:26
She fully trust him though. Yeah, so there's a text exchange
36:29
between Madison and Tatum. Yeah.
36:32
And then they're just talking back and forth and then Tatum's
36:34
literally like, do you think you're falling in love with
36:37
bishop and it was just so Random.
36:39
I mean I don't know where it's like girl has been 14 days.
36:42
Like relax express shipping on this dude, right?
36:46
Even think I've ever asked you about that with your long-term
36:48
relationship. No never.
36:51
Why would I we've been friends for that long and I don't think
36:53
I've ever we've ever. Why would we ask such a weird?
36:57
Do you think about being in love with him?
36:59
Who cares? This is me.
37:02
You're okay. I'd be like, I think you're a
37:04
dumb bitch right now, dude. It's just water corrected.
37:08
It's ready. I'm like, I feel like you're
37:12
missing the whole point. I feel like when you close
37:14
friends with someone, you don't word.
37:16
Big picture question like that randomly in a text message.
37:19
No, you don't. When you're having a DNM in real
37:21
life or something? Yeah, and all the time, if
37:23
you're that close with friends, you can just tell without asking
37:26
any way. Actually.
37:27
You don't need that to be confirmed.
37:29
I do. Did she not really quite answer
37:31
the Nor did I think Bishop came back to the room and he was
37:35
literally, he came back to the room and he's like, I've had a
37:37
rough day. I just need you to open your
37:39
legs. If anyone said that to me, I'd
37:41
be like, hmm. Closed closed for business.
37:45
Weren't they just in the car forever?
37:47
Yeah, he's spoken to stay outside or something.
37:50
Also, they've arrived at Bishops cabin now.
37:52
Yeah. That would be nice hours.
37:54
Yeah. Well again she's just his
37:56
flashlight. Uh-huh.
37:57
She's not like really there for any particular reason.
38:01
Ian Waite was there a sex scene there, there was a sex scene, it
38:05
was like a very minimum sexy, and I think, and then it was
38:07
like, the next morning and they had like, a him watching her.
38:12
Get off, thinking that way into sex.
38:15
Okay. It was like, it literally goes
38:18
do what you would do if I'm not there and he's like, slight, I'd
38:22
be like, borrow, you were never there my whole life.
38:24
So yeah, even I don't even know who you are.
38:29
You just watching. Netflix is eating I'll cool.
38:32
You just pull up that picture real quick, um, like that's what
38:35
I meant. I'm like.
38:36
Okay, okay, so I have no idea where this court is coming from
38:40
because nothing in this book, really chronologically make
38:43
sense. So if I say something random
38:45
it's because I wrote it down as a note, but usually it's Parks
38:49
information for me too. Okay, so this one bit.
38:52
So I think this is Madison talking to herself.
38:56
She thinks she would shoot to kill some slut who shot a
39:00
mountain lion. And oh yeah, she was talking
39:03
about how she was against hunting particular animals and
39:08
she said I would shoot to kill any slut who killed a mountain
39:13
lion so she doesn't value human life as long as it's female.
39:16
So, right. And therefore if you're female
39:19
your ass lat first of all let's get that let's get that coming
39:22
on. Imagine having a set of like a
39:24
healthy sexual relationship with your partner but okay.
39:27
Any other person very much anti-choice she He's given
39:31
Merica. She's giving Republican, she's
39:34
giving pro-life. Um, so I think the next day they
39:38
do a traditional paintball game, but it really, and the how that
39:43
spark that. And she gets shot out first by
39:46
Bishop, but then she takes Brantley and stuff out because
39:50
she's like, I must play. Where are they doing this out?
39:53
In the cabin out in the forest, in the wilderness?
39:57
So they just add Bishops cabin and they just happen to have.
40:01
I mean, they're in a high-stress situation, but they must have a
40:04
traditional Bible. They have a bit of a chill down
40:07
with some paintball. Yeah, hello.
40:09
I mean, that's not the way I would go for a chill down.
40:12
If someone needs to find them, wouldn't be look at his second
40:15
address. I mean, it was handed down to
40:17
their family in generation. He's had it since he was 15 on
40:22
the books. It's on the books.
40:24
The first place I'd fucking look if I'll even go to school
40:27
anymore but no, you know what? Confuses me because I don't know
40:31
if I just miss something or whatever when the hell was
40:34
Bishops dad, even chasing Madison.
40:37
So I love how it's just me, burying something up and then
40:40
you having to explain it. I think it's fine.
40:44
It's what I'm here for. So the guy the old guy in that
40:48
when they were doing the car race you know, was Bishops Dad?
40:52
Yep and He see, I could spoil like everything for everyone
40:58
right now, and I don't know if I should.
41:00
So I'm just like, maybe we'll save the spoilers for The
41:02
Mirror, save it for the answer. I've got to be careful.
41:05
It's Bishop start, and he finds out that he's with Madison, and
41:09
he thinks Madison is this person, which she is this
41:12
person, he thinks, so they're trying to kill her.
41:14
Hmm. And that's why they're hiding
41:16
okay? Yeah.
41:18
Oh, dad's not going to know where his secret cabinet that he
41:20
handed down to him when he was 15 years.
41:22
Actually, that's not going to know.
41:24
There. I mean for someone that is the
41:27
god person of his group and is the leader.
41:29
He's sure. I ain't got some smarts in
41:32
there. Yeah.
41:33
And he only had to make a phone call and then he he could have
41:38
fixed it. You know what I mean?
41:40
Yeah. She was like, oh, it's all good.
41:42
It's oh, gee. I just called my daddy and it's
41:43
fine. But she was like, it's saying
41:45
that in the whole time in the car, she's like, can you just
41:47
call your dad? It's a lie.
41:48
I'm not who I am, and it's like, it's not that simple and that it
41:51
was, it was assembled. It was that simple.
41:55
Be sure you made everyone do a 10-hour drive but not anything.
42:00
I just sent his data text just be like it's not her.
42:05
Yeah, just be like it wasn't me, it wasn't me.
42:09
It wasn't me, but Shaggy plays on car radio.
42:13
That's this book is a fucking series of nonsensical events as
42:18
long as if she's got a dartboard and she's sorry, pops up.
42:24
That's the next Point like it doesn't connect and it doesn't
42:28
make sense. So it'll lose the sport.
42:31
That's a big lead wrong together.
42:33
It would make more sense if their dad won't out there with a
42:36
group of people and was like, this is the time this is where
42:39
time we're fucking shit up but it doesn't.
42:42
It never does. And also wouldn't it be cool if
42:44
they had the hunting element in it?
42:46
Because I always want my guns? Always talk about this.
42:48
And that well, they did. Kinda she was like, I wonder how
42:50
that hunt and he was like, you got my dick hard and then that's
42:53
when their dad. That's when Daddy Bishop was
43:01
stopped. Yes.
43:03
Oh Homer, they go pop. A big old fluffy dick of a plot.
43:14
Anyway, I was very heavily confused.
43:18
Um, all right, so Madison says that she loves Nate and they
43:21
grew together quickly. Oh no.
43:24
What is that based on? Because the minimal interactions
43:27
have really had. I think she's just that horny
43:31
all the time. Like horny shouldn't translate
43:33
to brotherly. Love something is not math and
43:38
it sounds like she's just like I love him so much and like we
43:41
grew together so quickly within the first five minutes.
43:43
I mean I like is there like a time job?
43:46
Is that what happened? Has it been six months?
43:49
It feels like it's only been five days the way.
43:53
I would need the biggest nap ever owned all this shit.
43:56
Oh girl. So Maddie cares.
43:59
That Nate slept with someone else because he was originally
44:02
sleeping with Tilly to Tatum because he flipped at a time
44:08
first, some potato fast. Yes.
44:10
And then he sleeping with Tilly. Hmm.
44:12
But then she doesn't even tell Tatum that he hooked up with
44:15
Tilly. But Hayden kind of knows, I
44:18
think, but she kind of has no girl code who Maddie.
44:22
Yeah, I actually think she does till.
44:25
He says it in front of Tatum and Taylor literally goes, I don't
44:27
care that much. It was I was using him.
44:30
She does care. So she goes back to school, so
44:33
they actually do go to school. All right.
44:35
And when well, apparently, I mean they're Saturday night
44:38
asked me that while day, she gets this video and her the
44:42
expose video is on YouTube. All places, why wouldn't it be
44:45
on Tick-Tock guy's ass? Story Time with Ali, like in
44:48
front of it, on the green screen with the screenshots and the
44:50
bank account, like why would it be on YouTube.
44:52
This lady needs to update where you might expose someone because
44:55
this book was written like two years ago.
44:57
Hey or a year ago, wasn't it? Why would it be on YouTube?
45:01
No one's going to find it. I mean Twitter even and also it
45:03
would get banned straight away. He's got videos of medicine
45:06
having sex with multiple people and she's a minor to yeah.
45:10
Technically associate video of them in the tent.
45:13
Yeah, she had. What else does she have?
45:15
He had her making out with Nate and then how did she get that?
45:20
Come on. And I think there was a video
45:22
of, I don't know, I'm pretty sure it already came up where
45:25
all and the video of Brantley front of sleep with her, but I'm
45:28
like it wasn't a lie that took the video.
45:30
Yeah. So who was it?
45:32
And I don't think it ever come back around and why would she
45:34
have like a clear video of they're making out in the lounge
45:37
room in their own home? The thing is too, like, with the
45:40
End of This Book to, it doesn't make sense that she did.
45:43
It will. She's the one posting it and
45:46
we're supposed to think it's because she's jealous of her and
45:48
Bishop. Yeah.
45:49
But what that just makes you look like a weirdo.
45:51
Yeah. Stalker.
45:53
Yeah. And couldn't that be, then you
45:54
could be charged with stalking. I think if he's charged with
45:58
practically child. Pornography.
45:59
Yeah. Anyway.
46:03
So yeah. She's a bit sad about that.
46:04
Wasn't she sort of like depressed and stressed out at
46:06
school? Yeah, just go home.
46:08
I think she did end up going home.
46:11
Are we supposed to believe that Ali's just the main Do I know
46:15
this is so weird. It literally made my sense to
46:18
any of the storyline anyway every time that any passage of
46:21
that called book came up I literally skipped ahead just
46:24
like ramble, absolutely ramble. Actually that reminds me there's
46:28
you know how in the start of the chapters as a couple of quotes.
46:32
Mmm it's to own right as core. What do you mean, some of the
46:37
little quotes that start out the start of the chapter, you know,
46:40
how the random quotes and it's like quoted by.
46:43
It's the author's quotes the whole book is you've girl, the
46:50
only been I remember next, is her breaking into Bishops House?
46:53
And that's where they've killed Ali, right?
46:56
So she went home, upset, that Ali, publish this video online,
47:00
and yeah, and then she breaks into Bishop.
47:01
Was she trying to get answers? I can't quite remember.
47:04
I think she would. She took the Book with her,
47:06
she's trying to get answers. And she just like stormed into
47:09
his house and went downstairs. And there's a lie, dead.
47:12
Yeah, and she was like the fuck and then that's when they run
47:16
out and that's pretty much the end of the book.
47:18
So she was running away from witnessing a fresh murder yet.
47:21
Book falls out onto the ground. She's on her hands and knees.
47:24
She looks up and it's her own dad, bump a bomb and then she
47:29
shocked to see him, right? And then she casually reads the
47:32
next chapter, on all fours of the grill.
47:34
And then she Sit out. She works out everything but
47:37
that's how we set it up. Like, hold on Dad.
47:39
I know you're up there looking at me down on the ground and
47:41
then she runs out and then she's had time to read the whole
47:45
chapter on the ground, telling me that bishop and they would
47:47
have fucking not Pinder to the ground.
47:50
And it's like, hey Dad, can you just put your flashlight on
47:52
cycle? Is really this on the ground for
47:53
a sec? I'm just I'm I'm pulling
47:55
together. Everything.
47:56
All of sudden. I know people keep telling me to
47:57
finish the book but I just I'm just leaving it.
47:59
Now is the time now is the time. I'm just leaving it for as long
48:02
as possible and then she's like out of there and her and Tate
48:05
Um, I like running and Bishop running after them in the gates
48:08
shouting. It's just very Princess Diaries.
48:11
I don't know. So, okay, when she casually read
48:16
that last chapter and she was piecing, it all together.
48:19
Is she the silvers? Wonder?
48:20
She's broken puppet. She's the surface one, but then
48:23
we're introduced to Bergen puppet as well because he calls
48:26
her a bargain. Papa, I think, at one point
48:29
because he likes to put the piece and I think Ella.
48:32
Yeah. Which makes sense.
48:33
With that weird thing. He said about us.
48:35
On the actually got a sickness fun, and that's it.
48:42
So there was no answers. There was no answers.
48:47
Okay. So, any final thoughts about
48:50
this first? Silver Swan, don't read it, just
48:54
listen to a podcast. Don't read it.
48:56
There's no need, we've explained as much as we can.
48:58
Yeah, there's no point, there's not even good sexy, instead
49:01
balance it out, at least, if it was a shit book, it had good
49:05
sex. Seems you'd be like, worth it
49:08
but oh, mighty good romance. You've got to have one.
49:10
You can either have everything really good and shitty sex
49:13
scenes and be fine, but you can't have it all shit.
49:15
No, no, no. It's just I don't know where
49:18
you're going. It's like you're alone in a dark
49:21
dumpster and you don't know where to turn and it stinks in
49:25
there. That's what it's like reading it
49:26
because I feel like she's trying to get as much as she could out
49:29
of the series and she just kept roaring it out with.
49:33
No. But I first book should be.
49:35
Setting up the basics. Yeah, should be working on your
49:39
main characters. Yeah.
49:40
You should be developing them and then there should be the
49:43
subplot of whatever's going on, big picture in the background.
49:46
So that if you wanted this to be the first book, then it starts
49:49
ramping up in the second book. Yeah, like you can't give us
49:51
nothing and doesn't even, I would I care about the
49:53
characters if you giving me nobody.
49:55
Yeah, there's no information, absolutely not.
50:00
So I mean, what else is there really to say was there any good
50:03
parts that we could know nerve here?
50:09
And there look it was a beautiful, big flop.
50:12
I mean if you're fully dedicated to reading the entire series and
50:16
you think you can get through it, maybe read it.
50:19
But for what value, it's just teenagers running around and
50:23
running. Amok.
50:24
Running amok in this town. Yeah.
50:27
A little Polo just like their mellotts from The Simpsons old
50:30
man. Screams of cloud.
50:32
That's just us to this book. Like I feel like I started
50:37
getting where she was trying to go but she just never really got
50:40
there. Yeah.
50:42
Okay, so before we get into spoilers for the next couple
50:45
books, how about we give this a rating?
50:48
I thought we should read it out of five slots.
50:53
Someone and a half slot for me, really.
50:56
It's a semi slot one-and-a-half slots, Okay, so I'm gonna have
51:01
to give it zero slots out of 5. Yeah, because there's nothing
51:04
there. It's a non-event.
51:06
I feel like that is zero sluts. Oh, you just retracted your
51:10
one-and-a-half slut. I feel like I was being nice
51:12
because I don't want to rag on it because unlike Rose, if she
51:24
put the work in, dude, what? No, no, I mean if she put the
51:27
work in, if she made it very Then if she took out the Wattpad
51:31
Vibes, dude, I'm thinking this could never be enough.
51:34
I just never get a true. This is no, we're just trying to
51:38
be nice editor in the world. Could get this to a five slot
51:41
founded by McNuggets. So, because you are dedicated
51:46
and looked into. So, did you finish book two and
51:49
three? I finished book, two and three,
51:51
but it's mainly because I wanted answers, but it did put me in a
51:54
reading slump for about two weeks.
51:56
Okay? So do you want to let us know
51:59
what? In two and three.
52:01
I'm just going to give you random facts about a, okay?
52:04
So spoiler alert, if you haven't read two and three, and you want
52:06
to don't listen to this well, Lola and Trigger warnings.
52:09
Okay? Because it's, it's dark in a way
52:12
that I feel like. It shouldn't be like.
52:13
It could have been another. So.
52:16
Okay. After they disappear, they go to
52:18
New Zealand. Where what?
52:20
They're even are? They starting from Elaine
52:22
America? Yeah, so they go to New Zealand
52:25
with Tatum becomes a stripper and it.
52:28
Wait, why do they go to New Zealand?
52:29
They're on the run from these guys, so they go to New Zealand.
52:33
She becomes a tattoo artist, Tatum becomes a stripper, which
52:36
Maddie, of course, hates that she's a stripper.
52:38
And then Tatum goes down, this weird, stripper, drug alcoholic
52:42
panel, and then they get found and Bishops.
52:45
Like, I already knew where you were this whole time and do it.
52:47
So only medicine and Tatum go, yeah, they're running away from
52:51
Bishop and her dad, they're running away from them all.
52:54
So I'm just gonna so you like Madison and Tatum to He went
53:00
missing after the cabin. Okay.
53:02
She's been missing this entire time, so plot Point fertility
53:06
will quickly get to the other way.
53:08
She runs away. She gets caught by a mum, which
53:10
is Cats, er, which is the crazy Lost Boy lady.
53:14
If you remember that, or if that's not in that book.
53:17
Anyway, the lost boys killed. The silver swans, the silver
53:20
swans. I just girls that are born under
53:22
the leaders, the 9 L. So, if Bishop ornate, or anyone
53:27
in their seven had a girl, They would get killed.
53:31
So their whole thing is like a weird misogynistic cult, right?
53:37
Okay, they get power but it does change in the last book, where
53:42
Tilly has a Silver Swan, she's pregnant with Nate, that's why
53:45
she's missing and they save her and then silver sounds really
53:49
bad. But the thing that I thought,
53:51
why are you laughing? Why are they loud?
53:53
It was weird because they didn't have a resolution for that and
53:56
then they're like, Maddie you're my hero.
53:58
She did not think she She literally did not think Maddie
54:01
is actually related to Hunter Jace and two.
54:05
Other ones wasn't Hunters. Knee up in her groin.
54:08
Yes, Hunter was also the one in the tent where she was like I'll
54:12
just have sex with Hunter. Yeah.
54:15
So she really had sex with her biological brother and then
54:18
she's a dad just fucking everyone.
54:20
What's going on? No see, she's adopted what?
54:24
I know what the fuck, right? She's adopted and she has a twin
54:26
brother. That's Damon.
54:27
Whose schizophrenic and he actually shoots her in the side
54:31
of the head. It's grazes her son, fuck knock,
54:34
sorry aren't casual graze on the side.
54:35
That's just a casual Graves deal.
54:37
She was adopted out because she was a Silver Swan, but her twin
54:40
brother was a lost boy. So he kills the Silver Swan.
54:44
I'm so cool. That's any way, that's healthy,
54:46
that's healthy. So that's pretty much what I
54:47
gathered. Most of the book, the trigger
54:50
Warning part is that the reason Brantley hates her is because
54:55
brantley's, Dad was the one that used to rape Madison as a child.
55:00
Yeah. But but Brantley hates her
55:03
because his dad used to do it to him, and Madison was the first
55:08
girl that his dad made him have sex with when he was like five.
55:14
Yeah, so that's why he hated Madison because it was like kind
55:16
of the start of his sexual assaults Lori.
55:20
Anyway they kill brantley's dad together.
55:23
She might happen and Brantly yeah she gets kidnapped by them.
55:27
Yeah she gets kidnapped and again by the all the dads so
55:31
that's including her own adoptive dad then not in that's
55:34
not her adoptive dad her adopted dad's really the only one that
55:37
cares about her but barely barely barely damn it.
55:44
Their minimum, I'm like all over the place but I'm trying my best
55:47
to remember it. So Madison stabs are brantley's,
55:51
dad and then Brantley, what stabs him like a thousand times.
55:54
You know, when they'll like, what do you know?
55:57
That's what they were trying to find out because she was brought
55:59
up in that life and then they were on the run, right?
56:02
Elizabeth is Madison's adoptive mom but her mom never died and
56:09
kales was never dead either. So Kyle's got pregnant by
56:14
Bishop's, dad, so Bishops dad is against the rape of children but
56:19
he got a 15 year old pregnant. Oh my God.
56:24
Yeah I know. And then in the third planet.
56:27
Yeah, I know by the end of the third book, the dad and cows are
56:30
in a relationship. I'm like I know that was all
56:33
over the place but literally that's the only interesting
56:36
bits. Okay so they're really just a
56:37
misogynistic cult who and then e of the sex scenes improve.
56:42
Know I love Hannah. I love how that's your go-to so
56:46
I just I need to know like what's but really the only thing
56:49
she got she got a couple of Brothers She was raped Brantley
56:54
hated her because he was raped. Oh my God.
56:56
They just as I am. Yeah.
56:58
It's just a thing, is Bishop calls out his dad for like
57:03
practically raping Calles. He's like, that's not okay, but
57:06
he does it to Madison disaster disaster.
57:09
Yeah. I see nothing exciting.
57:11
I still don't know what's happening.
57:12
I got to the end and I was like, I've had enough so till he's
57:15
been kidnapped. Card is a bad guy.
57:17
Oh, does it go. How many books are there?
57:21
Do you know? I think there's like, Seven or
57:22
eight. That's too much.
57:23
That's too much iron around. Like I might maybe don't even do
57:28
it anymore. Don't even do it, do it.
57:30
Do it yourself. I'm like, the last page was
57:32
Carter kidnapping Tilly and her baby.
57:35
Why is everyone kidnapping everyone?
57:37
Because fucking all that doesn't have no one from the school or
57:40
anybody's checking in on these people.
57:42
Well, police having a funeral for Damon, which is Maddie's
57:47
twin, brother, that's schizophrenic and he killed
57:49
himself. And then who's at the Neural all
57:53
of them, even though they all hated him and that it was like,
57:56
I love him. You can, we have a sibling Bond.
57:59
Even though they literally couldn't have a conversation
58:01
because the guy only New Orleans.
58:05
It's funny because Bishop gets up.
58:06
He's dad for the sexual assault thing.
58:08
But when they find out that brantley's, Dad has been raping
58:12
Maddie and Brantley their entire life.
58:14
The bishop sides, like, I'm against rape, why he didn't get
58:17
a 15 year old pregnant? It's the same fucking thing.
58:21
My guy It's the same thing, the same category.
58:24
Yeah, my good fellow, it's you bitch.
58:28
It's yours again the guy pointing in the mirror.
58:32
Oh my God. Yeah that's it.
58:33
That's all I can remember. Well thanks for.
58:35
You really took one for the team there.
58:38
As I saw it, I still didn't fucking work.
58:40
Anything out. That's your punishment.
58:44
For suggesting this book in the first place it is, but you had
58:46
to read this, to be fair. I didn't, you know what?
58:49
I should have listened because it going Tick-Tock, I can't
58:51
remember a name who had a rage and I live about it.
58:54
She was like, don't read the second and third because they're
58:56
not any better. I should have listened.
58:58
Should have listened. You were warned, I was warned,
59:00
you learn gave that author some money.
59:03
I did. Yeah, by making that purchase.
59:06
I mean, maybe she could take some riding lessons and work out
59:08
a pot. Yeah.
59:09
Or start fresh to start all over, take out a lot of the
59:12
rape. Take out a lot of the sexual
59:14
assault. This dark room, it's have to
59:16
include rape. Does it have to actually not?
59:20
Because as the book that people keep talking about on Tick-Tock
59:22
where they're like, he broke her legs.
59:23
I'm like, yeah, that's probably fine for a dock or a minutes but
59:27
like totally fine. But I'm like, I feel like I draw
59:30
the line at sexual assault, you know?
59:31
Yeah. Like it doesn't have to be that
59:34
hell. Yeah.
59:35
Why does she need to be ripe? Continuously over a whole lot of
59:38
some people use that as character development but she's
59:42
gotten our care. Development.
59:43
Yes, she's fucking dumb as a doorknob.
59:46
Paul saying nothing Jack's. Imagine having that life,
59:49
absolutely not anything else to add apart from?
59:52
Don't read it now. That's it.
59:53
This time. Read it.
59:54
Cool. All right, well, I hope it was
59:57
some entertainment value. I'm sorry like, we were
1:00:01
everywhere with this book. It's really hard.
1:00:03
Not to be because it's written, like it's so scatters, so, it
1:00:06
sort of makes you feel scattered.
1:00:08
Yeah. Well you read it.
1:00:09
So if you want someone to just mind, fuck you and not in a good
1:00:12
way. Maybe like this, if you have a
1:00:14
high tolerance and yeash, you would be okay with her writing
1:00:17
style, then. Yeah, maybe yeah.
1:00:19
But it's not, it's not very thought out.
1:00:21
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1:00:17
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1:00:21
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