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Which Young Ohio State Receiver Will Take A Big Step This Spring? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Sunday, February sixteenth.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, tom Or. The Texas game is in
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  Speaker 1: back our friend Tony Gerdeman at Bucky Huddle dot com.
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  Speaker 1: That today we're going to be talking about the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the Ohio state wide receivers who are returning. We
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  Speaker 1: did the four guys who had some kind of substantial
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  Speaker 1: stats already. Now we're gonna be looking at some of
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  Speaker 1: the newcomers and some of the guys who get a
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  Speaker 1: chance to really make a first impression during your second year.
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  Speaker 2: This year, Tony, the.
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  Speaker 1: First guy we're going to be talking about former five
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  Speaker 1: star wide receiver Mile and Graham.
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  Speaker 2: The talent is clearly there.
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  Speaker 1: You saw him kind of coming on and playing, you
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  Speaker 1: know a little bit more of a bigger role towards
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  Speaker 1: the end of the season. This feels, though, to me,
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  Speaker 1: really like this is kind of his first season in
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  Speaker 1: Columbus because when you show up in the summer, it
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  Speaker 1: basically kills your chance to contribute as a true freshman.
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  Speaker 1: I think Malin Graham probably would have played a bigger
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  Speaker 1: role already if he had been a January in rolling
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  Speaker 1: last year instead of a Jewe.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and when a guy enrolls in June, like your
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  Speaker 3: your best hope is that they can do the Chris
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  Speaker 3: Olave thing where they start to come on over the
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  Speaker 3: second half of the season. And he played in four games,
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  Speaker 3: and two of those were.
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  Speaker 4: In the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: Now that's partly because of the blowouts against Tennessee and Oregon.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, we talked. I talked with Mylon at
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  Speaker 3: the one of the bowl games, and he was talking
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  Speaker 3: about how when he got to Ohio State and June,
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  Speaker 3: things were going really well for him and didn't practice
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  Speaker 3: started and it got a little more a little bit
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  Speaker 3: more difficult, which is kind of how things go. But
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  Speaker 3: then you you lean on your teammates, you fight through,
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  Speaker 3: and then you start to grow. And I asked Brian
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  Speaker 3: Hartline about it as well, and it's like, Yeah, you
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  Speaker 3: could really start to see about second half of the
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  Speaker 3: season where he understood more of what he was doing
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  Speaker 3: and he wasn't questioning things as much anymore. And so
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  Speaker 3: the track he's on right now, Heartline is really liking.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, when I when I talk to Mylon
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  Speaker 3: Graham back when he was a high schooler, he talked
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  Speaker 3: about how he could play slot or outside, Brian Hartline
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  Speaker 3: and talk to him about both of those things, and
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  Speaker 3: right now he's outside. But there's the possibility if he
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  Speaker 3: picks that up and it is grasps that then they
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  Speaker 3: can start to move him inside like they've done with
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  Speaker 3: Tarnel Tait and Jeremiah Smith and Macha Abuka in the past.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, this.
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  Speaker 3: Is not the deepest wide receiver room and so they
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  Speaker 3: need they need Mylon Graham to step up and you know,
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  Speaker 3: move up that depth chart and be a guy that
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  Speaker 3: has shown that he can be an incredibly impactful, dynamic
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  Speaker 3: guy with the ball.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he did not have any catches last season, and
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  Speaker 1: neither did anyone else we're talking about in terms of
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  Speaker 1: attorney scholarship players here. So this is this is all
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  Speaker 1: guys who get a second chance or a first chance
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  Speaker 1: to make a first impression this year with the ball
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  Speaker 1: in their hands. And there were only four guys we
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  Speaker 1: talked about in the last show, so there are going
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  Speaker 1: to be up tunities for the guys that we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about here. Next man up is de Maurian Witten, and
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  Speaker 1: he's someone who's he's he has not really seen much
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  Speaker 1: of the field at all, but he's had kind of
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  Speaker 1: an interesting journey he was recruited. The conversation when he
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  Speaker 1: was being recruited was he was a tight end, but
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  Speaker 1: they were going to maybe start him as a wide receiver.
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  Speaker 1: And it sounds like maybe the wide receiver thing is
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  Speaker 1: just going to kind of stick for him.
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  Speaker 4: Now. Yeah, and he's another big bodied wide receiver.
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  Speaker 3: He's I think he what did he tell you that
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  Speaker 3: he wide receiver's just more fun than tight end. I
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  Speaker 3: can't remember if that was that was a conversation with
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  Speaker 3: you or somebody who's like, yeah, you know, it's just
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  Speaker 3: more fun at receiver than tight end, which you can
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  Speaker 3: you can understand if you've ever seen the two positions
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  Speaker 3: in action. But I still go back to the one
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  Speaker 3: game I saw of him as a Glenville tarbe letter
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  Speaker 3: where I think he did not play in the first
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  Speaker 3: quarter for whatever reason, and I think Glennville was trailing
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  Speaker 3: like three nothing after the first quarter and then Ted
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  Speaker 3: Ginsenior in search him into the lineup in a halftime.
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  Speaker 3: The score is thirty eight to three Ladville something like that,
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  Speaker 3: and he just took over. He played safety, he played receiver,
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  Speaker 3: tight end, quarterback. He kicks like he's just a really
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  Speaker 3: really natural athlete and still kind of developing and growing
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  Speaker 3: into a guy that can be called upon and relied
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  Speaker 3: upon as a receiver all of the routes and things
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  Speaker 3: like that and the blocking that has to take place.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, that's that's a guy. I think it's pretty
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  Speaker 3: forgotten when you talk about the Ohio State receivers, but
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  Speaker 3: is a guy that they're still, you know, just as
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  Speaker 3: high on as ever, especially now that he's solidified where
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  Speaker 3: he wants to be. And a lot of times most
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  Speaker 3: times it's once the player is all in on where
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  Speaker 3: they want to be, that's when the progression and the
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  Speaker 3: blossoming really takes place, because, as Ryan Day said, they're
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  Speaker 3: never going to move anybody that doesn't want to move positions.
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  Speaker 3: It has to be something they want to do. It
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  Speaker 3: also has to be something you want to do if
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  Speaker 3: you're staying somewhere like it's you've got to want to
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  Speaker 3: do it, and clearly he does so I'm looking forward
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  Speaker 3: to seeing what he can do. He's one of these
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  Speaker 3: guys that can make an impact early on in spring,
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  Speaker 3: just base on the fact that he's going to get
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  Speaker 3: a ton of reps.
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  Speaker 1: Someone else who could make an impact this spring is
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  Speaker 1: Quincy Porter, five star. He's at a Bergen Catholic High school,
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  Speaker 1: a big northeastern Northeast New Jersey powerhouse, my old neck
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  Speaker 1: of the woods. That is Taylor Ham Country Tony No,
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  Speaker 1: this pork role nonsense. Taylor Ham Country in North Jersey.
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  Speaker 1: Got two North Jersey wide receivers in this class. Actually
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  Speaker 1: we've got the other one a little bit later. Quincy Porter, though,
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  Speaker 1: five star wide receiver, big frame, big playability, like this
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  Speaker 1: is like I think this is a okay, go ahead,
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  Speaker 1: like this is not Jeremiah Smith. Set your you know,
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  Speaker 1: adjust your expectations accordingly. This is not Jeremiah Smith, but
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  Speaker 1: by like normal non superhuman standards, like this is the
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  Speaker 1: next wide receiver you can go ahead and get excited
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  Speaker 1: about at Ohio State.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, another five star signee for Brian Harline, somewhere between
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  Speaker 3: a Marvin Harrison and a Jeremiah Smith.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, but Tony responsible.
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  Speaker 3: But like that's the kind of the recruiting rankings that
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  Speaker 3: he has lived legitimately between Marvin Harrison and Jeremiah Smith.
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  Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying, Tom, the recruiting rankings. But is
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  Speaker 3: another like you said, big bodied guy six three, two
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  Speaker 3: hundred and five pounds six four or some somewhere around there,
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  Speaker 3: but can also do stuff after the catch. He's not
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  Speaker 3: just a possession receiver who's going to move chains. So
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  Speaker 3: you know, a guy that also, once Ohio State got
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  Speaker 3: in on started climbing the recruiting rankings as well. But
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  Speaker 3: it is a playmaker and like I said before, the
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  Speaker 3: catch after the catch, and a guy that go ahead
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  Speaker 3: and get excited about but also realize it. Past five
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  Speaker 3: star receivers like Brandon Ennis and Mylon Graham took a year,
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  Speaker 3: but they didn't get in until june Quincy Porter getting
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  Speaker 3: in in the winter. Let's see what he can do
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  Speaker 3: in the spring and how quickly he can make some noise, Tom,
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  Speaker 3: because I will always go back to Stein, Garrett Wilson
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  Speaker 3: and Jackson Smith and Jigba as true freshman in the
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  Speaker 3: spring and saying, Okay, that's that's legitimately something Marvin Harrison
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  Speaker 3: as well, and of course Jeremiah Smith. Let's see if
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  Speaker 3: there're another another one can be added to that list.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we have definitely seen that a number of times
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  Speaker 1: over the years, and I'm excited to see where he
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  Speaker 1: stands on that because they don't need him to be
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  Speaker 1: an immediate impact guy, but if he can that, potentially
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  Speaker 1: the reps will be there if he is ready to
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  Speaker 1: do that. I'm doing this sort of in order of
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  Speaker 1: star ranking. It's just because I just how I wrote
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  Speaker 1: these down. The next guy up is someone who is
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  Speaker 1: not probably going to be an immediate impact guy by
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  Speaker 1: any means, because he's a little bit more of a project.
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  Speaker 1: Bob Vin Miller. He is out of Ontario, Ohio. That's
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  Speaker 1: kind of up by Mansfield. He's someone who is really raw.
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  Speaker 1: He played high he played quarterback in his high school team.
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  Speaker 1: He kind of did just a little bit of everything
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  Speaker 1: on his high school team, and so the receiver thing.
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  Speaker 2: Is going to be kind of new to him.
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  Speaker 1: He is potentially a really exciting prospect, but he's also
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  Speaker 1: someone who I think people should go into this year
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  Speaker 1: expecting you probably won't see a ton of him as
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  Speaker 1: he kind of just learns how to be a wide
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  Speaker 1: receiver for a year or so and then you see
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  Speaker 1: what you got, you know after that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, not unlike Demarion Whitten last year.
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  Speaker 3: A guy who played a multitude of positions and Bob
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  Speaker 3: ben Miller played quarterback, he played quarterer, like when they
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  Speaker 3: needed him to shut down the opponent's top receiver, they
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  Speaker 3: would put him on there and he would do that.
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  Speaker 3: But a guy at quarterback who would rush for a
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  Speaker 3: thousand yards and could run.
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  Speaker 4: Around and make plays.
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  Speaker 3: And so yeah, there's gonna be a lot of development
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  Speaker 3: that needs to take place. But I've talked with Brian
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  Speaker 3: Hartline about him as well at one of the Bowl games,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, recognizing early on that he could be
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  Speaker 3: a guy that could do something. And then he had
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  Speaker 3: been camping for a while. We saw I think we
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  Speaker 3: saw on the day that he got offered working out
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  Speaker 3: at a June camp and really impressing and just you
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  Speaker 3: could tell he looks like a very tall receiver, which
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  Speaker 3: he is. He's legitimately sixty four sixty three sixty four,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, runs really well and cuts better than
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  Speaker 3: you would expect for a guy that big. And I
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  Speaker 3: think that's something that you can say of Quincy Porter
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  Speaker 3: as well, like they've got some really good athletic guys.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, Bob Penmiller, he understands it's going to take
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  Speaker 3: some time as well, which I think is a benefit
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  Speaker 3: for the for everybody. Like he's not he's not looking
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  Speaker 3: like a Jeremiah Smith put up thirteen hundred yards I'm
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  Speaker 3: thinking at least fourteen hundred for me, Like he's he
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  Speaker 3: understands the process that's gonna that that it's gonna take
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  Speaker 3: to get him to where to the point where he's
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  Speaker 3: ready to go.
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  Speaker 1: The Buck guys have pulled some talented receivers out of
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  Speaker 1: California over the years. Next one of those four star receiver,
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  Speaker 1: five star hair Philip Bell out of Mission v A Hill, California, Tony.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And interestingly, when the initial the early signing, the signing day,
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  Speaker 3: Ryan Day compared him to a Mecca Abuka as a
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  Speaker 3: guy who could play inside or outside, and they're very
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  Speaker 3: similar in size six ' one one hundred and ninety
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  Speaker 3: five hundred pounds both of those guys, and he's a
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  Speaker 3: guy that is effective around the in the red zone
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  Speaker 3: and his guy that can go up and get a ball,
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  Speaker 3: but also can run different kinds of routes. So this
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  Speaker 3: is one where does he end up where they like
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  Speaker 3: the need is greater in terms of the outside the
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  Speaker 3: inside probably, but can also move around, So there'll be
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  Speaker 3: one where they want to get him ramped up on
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  Speaker 3: where they see him right now, and then as he
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  Speaker 3: grasps that, then you can start to move him around.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, I'm not sure if how much will
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  Speaker 3: be expected of him this year either. I think he's
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  Speaker 3: another possibility as a red shirt guy. But you can
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  Speaker 3: get your four games in and then another four games
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  Speaker 3: or so in the playoffs if things go well.
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  Speaker 1: And the last guy, and I've heard this name two
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  Speaker 1: different ways. It's either DZ Jones or Dizzy Jones. I've
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  Speaker 1: heard it both ways out of De Paul Catholic in Wayne,
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  Speaker 1: New Jersey, also Tony and Northern New Jersey. Guy a
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  Speaker 1: little further out from the city, twenty or so minutes
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  Speaker 1: out from New York, but still De Paul Catholic up
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  Speaker 1: in it's I think that's Passaic County not Bergen County,
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  Speaker 1: but still very much a North Jersey.
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  Speaker 4: Guy, pork Roll guy or Taylor Ham guy.
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  Speaker 2: Taylor Ham country for sure, Tony.
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  Speaker 4: That's fine.
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  Speaker 3: I would say this is the definite slot receiver of
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  Speaker 3: the class for Ohio State. And he's got some Jackson
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  Speaker 3: Smith and jigbit to him in terms of just inside
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  Speaker 3: route running and his ability to cut. So he's he's
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  Speaker 3: an entertaining watch if you go check out his huddle
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  Speaker 3: tapes and tapes videos, whatever you want to call him,
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  Speaker 3: but HS yes, go plug in the VCR, get your
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  Speaker 3: red cable and your yellow cable and try to figure
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  Speaker 3: out which slot's going which and then the white cable
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  Speaker 3: does nothing. But his ability to get open is pretty impressive.
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  Speaker 3: And so that's that's another guy that again, like I don't,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how much he's going to see the
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  Speaker 3: field this year because they've got they're pretty top heavy,
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  Speaker 3: which they were last year, so they didn't necessarily get
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  Speaker 3: too deep into the freshman class aside from the obvious,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't know that they'll need to do it.
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  Speaker 3: They could probably do the same this year, but they've
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  Speaker 3: got more options among the freshman class I think than
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  Speaker 3: they did last year. But yeah, Jones is a guy
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  Speaker 3: that can can run routes on the inside and do
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  Speaker 3: it very well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is not a bad position to be in
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  Speaker 1: where you have a bunch of talented guys, but you
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  Speaker 1: don't need to rely on the young guys. You've got
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  Speaker 1: enough depth at the top, you know, veteran guys coming
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  Speaker 1: back that you don't need to throw those guys on
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  Speaker 1: the field before they're ready. If they're ready, great, If not,
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  Speaker 1: that's fine. You see them in twenty twenty six and
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  Speaker 1: you see him in you know, some of those early games,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, if you're ready by the end of
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  Speaker 1: the year, great, If not, that's fine.
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  Speaker 2: Next year.
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  Speaker 1: Next year will work as well. So but before we
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  Speaker 1: get to next year, we got to go through this year.
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  Speaker 1: There's got a lot of exciting stuff about to happen
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  Speaker 1: in Columbus. Well, starting today basketball Buck Guy's hosting Michigan
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday, will have coverage from the shot of that.
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  Speaker 1: But then once basketball season's over, boy, this spring football
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  Speaker 1: is coming. We've got that schedule for you earlier in
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  Speaker 1: the week and did a whole show about when that's
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  Speaker 1: all going to be happening. Right after spring break and
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  Speaker 1: then the Spring Game or whatever is substituting for a
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  Speaker 1: spring game this year coming up on April twelfth, and
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  Speaker 1: it should be a really, really fun and interesting spring
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  Speaker 1: ball because there's a lot of new faces and a
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  Speaker 1: lot of positions open for grabs up for grabs, and
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  Speaker 1: some new coaches as well. It be a very eventful
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  Speaker 1: spring and we hope to share that spring with you.
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  Speaker 1: At Buckeye Huddle dot com. That's where Tony Kevin and
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  Speaker 1: Buckeyehuddle dot com. That'll do it for today. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: guys all for joining us.
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  Speaker 2: Have a great day. We'll talk to you tomorrow.