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Who Are The Phillies? (PST Episode 617) · The Philadelphia Sports Table | Philly Sports News & Views

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show, the longest
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  Speaker 1: running weekly Philly sports podcast show in the world. I
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  Speaker 1: hope you're all doing well out there. I'm Jeff Warren.
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  Speaker 1: I'm here at my good buddy Eric Leonard, as we
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  Speaker 1: have embarked here on YouTube. For those who are watching
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  Speaker 1: us on our twelve year anniversary last month. If you're
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  Speaker 1: listening on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, iHeart Radio, it's great to
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  Speaker 1: be in your ears.
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  Speaker 2: We got a great show coming to you this week. Buddy.
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  Speaker 1: How you doing, man, I'm tired, man, Yeah, we both are.
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  Speaker 2: Man, it's been we've had a rough day.
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  Speaker 1: It's like it's like almost eleven o'clock here on Wednesday night,
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  Speaker 1: May twenty first, and it's we're dishing out the content
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  Speaker 1: for you folks.
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  Speaker 3: We're doing it shutter days today. And it was like,
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  Speaker 3: my god, man, like, what if my dad would say,
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  Speaker 3: father's work is never done?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just my dad would say my dad's was worse.
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  Speaker 1: Actually my dad's would go. My dad would go, A man's.
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  Speaker 2: Work is never done. I'd be like, god, Dad, I
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  Speaker 2: even knew that was awful? Is that like?
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  Speaker 3: Was that part was part of the day? Was never
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  Speaker 3: done with you? Like ironing your clothes and your underwear.
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  Speaker 2: Dad, exactly, Yeah, with an apple in your mouth. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Man's work has never done I have.
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  Speaker 3: Made any memories of trying to watch TV and looking
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  Speaker 3: back at my dad's and his boxers and nothing else.
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  Speaker 2: God is closed for the week. It's like, can you
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  Speaker 2: go upstairs please? God?
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  Speaker 1: My Yeah, yeah no, we got a I got a
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  Speaker 1: lot of great stuff coming to you this week, folks
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  Speaker 1: in terms of our agenda here. But I do have
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  Speaker 1: to say before we get into that, Eric Man, that
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  Speaker 1: Ai tapestry you have back there is still fantastic. I
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  Speaker 1: think I'm gonna mention it on every single show just
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  Speaker 1: so that people were listening on audio come over to
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  Speaker 1: YouTube here and check it out, because it's it is
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  Speaker 1: freaking awesome. It's just great, it really is.
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  Speaker 2: I mean just the attitude on his face.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he he kind of was the cornerstone
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  Speaker 3: of that era in terms of the attitude and and
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  Speaker 3: and the profile and just that that just says it all.
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  Speaker 2: It's the best. And he started it, yes, yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: doctor J started Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You never you hardly ever saw Everson with with his
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  Speaker 1: affro out like you never saw he always had like
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  Speaker 1: some sort of like cornrows or something like that going
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  Speaker 1: on with his hair.
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  Speaker 2: You never hardly saw the afro.
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  Speaker 3: He always looks so much cooler and harder. Yeah, when
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  Speaker 3: he had to throw out, it was very very often,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah, it's not very often. But yeah, I that's
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  Speaker 3: my favorite version of AI right there.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, all right, well, everybody, we're gonna get into the
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  Speaker 1: show here. We're gonna start off by doing our segment
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  Speaker 1: this week in Philly Sports History, and then from there
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna get into some NFL and Eagles talk and
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  Speaker 1: some general football talk as well. Of course, we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: talk about the Tush Push and the fact that it
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  Speaker 1: has survived and it will be played by the Philadelphia
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  Speaker 1: Eagles and possibly other NFL teams this coming season and beyond. Also,
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  Speaker 1: news came out that the NFL is gonna be allowing
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  Speaker 1: its players to play out or to play flag football
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  Speaker 1: into twenty twenty eight Olympics. We're gonna dive into that that.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna get into some sixers in NBA talk, as
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  Speaker 1: this postseason has been absolutely incredible to watch as we're
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  Speaker 1: in the Eastern and Western Conference finals right now, and
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  Speaker 1: in terms of the sixers talk, just want to get
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  Speaker 1: into a brief discussion if we think this team can
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  Speaker 1: actually make a push this upcoming season, now that they
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  Speaker 1: have the number three overall pick in the draft and
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  Speaker 1: they do keep that pick, what that means for the
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  Speaker 1: young coren talent on this team for the future and
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  Speaker 1: for this upcoming season and then when we're thrown down
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  Speaker 1: on the table. This week, got a great discussion with
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  Speaker 1: our good friend Liz Rocher from the Hitten Season podcast
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  Speaker 1: and the Society for American Baseball Research SABER.
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  Speaker 2: She's gonna join us.
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  Speaker 1: To discuss this Phillies team and a lot of storylines
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  Speaker 1: that we're following with them throughout this twenty twenty five season.
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  Speaker 1: But we're gonna be asking the question, who is this
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  Speaker 1: Phillies team? Like, what is their identity from a batting
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  Speaker 1: pitching perspective. We got a great discussion coming with Liz,
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  Speaker 1: So Eric, let's get started with this week in Philly
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  Speaker 1: sports history. And I've got four here that I want
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  Speaker 1: to mention. We're gonna go back to May fifteentheen seventy five,
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  Speaker 1: Game one of the Stanley Cup Finals. The Flyers defeated
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  Speaker 1: the Buffalo Sabers four to one. Really setting the tone
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  Speaker 1: for their eventual championship victory and winning the Stanley Cup
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  Speaker 1: that year. Then we moved to just a few years later,
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  Speaker 1: May seventeenth, nineteen seventy nine, in a wild, wild slugfest
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  Speaker 1: at Wrigley Field in Chicago, Philadelphia Phillies ended up beating
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  Speaker 1: the Chicago Cubs by a score of twenty three to
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  Speaker 1: twenty two in ten innings. Mike Schmidt had two home
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  Speaker 1: runs in that game, a game that featured a total
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  Speaker 1: of eleven home runs and fifty hits. I would have
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  Speaker 1: loved to have seen that game. And then we were
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  Speaker 1: gonna talk about real quick here May fifteenth, nineteen eighty two. Look,
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  Speaker 1: I was only five years old the time. I think
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  Speaker 1: you were six. But the Philadelphia seventy six ers secured
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  Speaker 1: a very narrow ninety nine to ninety seven playoff victory
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  Speaker 1: against the Celtics, and it was a significant win during
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  Speaker 1: their journey to the NBA Finals that year. And then finally,
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  Speaker 1: just a few years ago, May twenty second, twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 1: at the time, Philly's first baseman, Reyes Hoskins, he hit
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  Speaker 1: his one hundredth career home run in his four hundred
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  Speaker 1: and fiftieth game, he became the fourth fastest player to
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  Speaker 1: reach that milestone with the Philadelphia Phillies, following Ryan Howard,
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  Speaker 1: Jim Tomy, and Chuck Klin. So that is this week
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  Speaker 1: in Philly sports history. I gotta tell you May seventeenth,
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  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine. I mean, I was two years old
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  Speaker 1: at the time, Eric, But my gosh, a baseball game
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  Speaker 1: that finished twenty three to twenty two in ten innings,
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  Speaker 1: eleven homers and fifty hits.
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  Speaker 2: That's freaking crazy. I would have loved to have seen
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  Speaker 2: that game.
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  Speaker 3: And the greatest Philly of all time, Michael jack Schmidt
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  Speaker 3: had two home runs that game. Yes, and that is
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  Speaker 3: probably the number one classic. If there's a rain delay
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  Speaker 3: going on, not now, not so much, but like back
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  Speaker 3: in the eighties nineties, ye would say, Lad, these early nineties,
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  Speaker 3: there was a rain delay on the Phillies broadcast, they
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  Speaker 3: would go and show the highlights from that classic nineteen
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  Speaker 3: seventy nine game.
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  Speaker 2: Against the Cubs.
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  Speaker 1: Ye.
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  Speaker 3: I've seen the highlights a thousand times. I never saw
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  Speaker 3: the actual game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I don't even know if they had it, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know if they have it in archives anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: I've never seen the game either. It was on Instagram
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  Speaker 2: quite a bit.
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  Speaker 3: Some of the highlights, yeah today, yesterday, Yeah, I saw those.
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  Speaker 1: What was the first one again, The very first one
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  Speaker 1: was the Flyers. It was May fifteenth, nineteen seventy five.
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  Speaker 1: We weren't even born yet. Stanley Cup Finals Game one.
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  Speaker 1: Flyers beat the Buffalo Sabers four to one. It's set
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  Speaker 1: the tone. That game really set the tone for their
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  Speaker 1: eventual championship victory.
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  Speaker 3: Man, that might as well be nineteen twenty, exactly eighteen twenty.
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  Speaker 3: The only thing I remember about that series beside there
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  Speaker 3: was like there was a game where there was a
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  Speaker 3: beat on the ice and one of the players had
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  Speaker 3: to kill it.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that wouldn't leave.
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  Speaker 3: And then when they did, no one wanted to pick
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  Speaker 3: it up. Yes, And it was one game where it
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  Speaker 3: was like eighty degrees on the ice and it was
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  Speaker 3: just it was just fog. That's all I remember. Highlights
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  Speaker 3: for the year.
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  Speaker 1: There you go, folks, you got it from Eric. Right
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  Speaker 1: here is Flyers highlights. All right, Well, let's move along
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  Speaker 1: here with the discussion and show and talk about the
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  Speaker 1: news that came out today that the NFL owners taking
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  Speaker 1: the vote on the tush push and the play has survived.
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  Speaker 1: The play survived when the owners voted twenty two to ten.
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  Speaker 1: And what happened here there was twenty two owners that
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  Speaker 1: actually voted to ban it, folks, ten teams that voted
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  Speaker 1: to keep it. They needed twenty four votes in order
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  Speaker 1: to ban the tush push and obviously did not get there.
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  Speaker 1: Just an amazing in my opinion, overall, bunch of woosies
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  Speaker 1: in this league that have come together to say a
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  Speaker 1: team has perfected something. We don't like it because right now,
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  Speaker 1: at this point in time, we can't stop it, so
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  Speaker 1: we are going to complain and try to make a
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  Speaker 1: rule change because of it. Eagles found a loophole about
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  Speaker 1: four years ago and have exploited that loophole. And we
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  Speaker 1: see this time and time again in various industries. Things
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  Speaker 1: are exploited all the time. But the Eagles have done
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  Speaker 1: something that I'm not sure any other NFL team has
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  Speaker 1: done necessarily eric in the history of the NFL, taking something,
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  Speaker 1: utilizing it time and time again, game after game being
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  Speaker 1: successful with it, scoring touchdowns, getting first downs, to the
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  Speaker 1: point where other teams are absolutely baffled, and after years
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  Speaker 1: and years have still not been able to stop it.
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  Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, stop it. You'll
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  Speaker 1: have to stop it, and somebody will. Somebody will at
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  Speaker 1: some point they will figure it out, I think. I
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  Speaker 1: think because the league continues to evolve and things get
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  Speaker 1: figured out. This one's taking a long time. But it's
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  Speaker 1: just amazing to me what woosses some of these teams
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  Speaker 1: are to sit back and say, we got to ban
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  Speaker 1: this play because we don't like it, we don't like
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  Speaker 1: being taken to school by Philly here, and I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna still continue to see it. I look, I
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  Speaker 1: was on the record this past year during some of
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  Speaker 1: our Eagles post game shows Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They have
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  Speaker 1: stopped that play every now and again over the past
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  Speaker 1: few years. It seems like certain personnel figured some things out,
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  Speaker 1: or maybe the timing wasn't there by the Eagles, But
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was getting figured out and wasn't going
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  Speaker 1: to be as much of a tool for the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: to convert first downs and also to score touchdowns.
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  Speaker 2: But that kind of just went away.
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  Speaker 1: My thought process on that just obviously went away because
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  Speaker 1: it's still successful.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I just, of course I think we're all glad that
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  Speaker 1: the play is still is still around, But it really
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  Speaker 1: says a lot about NFL ownership, some of these teams, players, coaches,
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  Speaker 1: and just what whisses they are when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: something like this.
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  Speaker 3: I mean there's so many thoughts. One, I always hear
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  Speaker 3: about how much smarter the NFL is getting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but yet.
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  Speaker 3: How any Stonehenge defensive coordinators do? We have big rockheads
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  Speaker 3: who can't figure out if it's just force against force? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's not that difficult. Like our quarterback and bench like
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  Speaker 3: eight hundred pounds, and so can them running back and
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  Speaker 3: he's put behind him pushing and it's legal and our
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  Speaker 3: offensive lines massive, Yeah, go figure it out. Morons like
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  Speaker 3: I don't understand, Like there's there's pure jealousy obviously because
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  Speaker 3: other teams can't do it. I would love to see
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  Speaker 3: a cross section of the twenty two nay votes and
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  Speaker 3: what what are the dimensions of their quarterback? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: what kind of bird chested, cinemastick leg quarterback do they
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  Speaker 3: have that they can't do it themselves?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Like I'm assuming the Packers voted to know because their
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  Speaker 3: quarterback is what six four, one hundred and fifty pounds.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jordan, Yeah, he's small, believe. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I would just like to see, like what what some
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  Speaker 3: of these quarterbacks look like. And what's confusing to me
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  Speaker 3: is like it's such a copycat league. Every year, multiple
• 12:04
  Speaker 3: teams pivot in terms of like concept for the season,
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  Speaker 3: in terms of like offensive defense based on the previous
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  Speaker 3: year or two and what championship teams have done. And
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  Speaker 3: when you have like a Patrick Mahomes just Houdini on
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  Speaker 3: the field, like winning the championship, you can't copy that, right, Like,
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  Speaker 3: there's only one Patrick Mahomes in league. So I understand
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  Speaker 3: why teams don't go like, well, we'll just drafted Patrick
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  Speaker 3: Mahomes and put mediacre receivers bound and he'll figure it out, right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Whereas like with the tush push, it's like quarterbacks, huge,
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  Speaker 3: huge offensive line, we get the ball in the one
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  Speaker 3: yard line, we're pushing it in.
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  Speaker 2: Why can't we figure that out?
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  Speaker 3: Even if the quarterback can't squad eight hundred pounds, Why
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  Speaker 3: don't you get a couple of linemen that are just
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  Speaker 3: like Suma wrestlers and just copy what we're doing. It's
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  Speaker 3: led us to a championship. But yet you want to
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  Speaker 3: moan and groan not going to say it's like an
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  Speaker 3: anti Philly Eagle thing whatever, it's just that that them
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  Speaker 3: not copying, that makes no sense to me. Yeah, Like
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  Speaker 3: I understand, like probably the old concept of football, like
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  Speaker 3: you're not allowed to push from behind, Well they were
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  Speaker 3: doing that shit way back in the fifties and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I watched old football.
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  Speaker 3: It's like it's it's almost harkened to back those those
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  Speaker 3: old days. And always always thought football love their history. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and it is a copycat league. That's why this bitterness
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  Speaker 3: is really strange to me. This is one I don't
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  Speaker 3: understand the twenty two nay votes and why they just
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  Speaker 3: can't kind of copy for themselves.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very bizarre. And you also look at football too.
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  Speaker 1: The other the other aspect of this that I've been
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  Speaker 1: thinking about, Eric, is that you have NFL teams, You
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  Speaker 1: have you have teams in general in sports that work
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  Speaker 1: hard to do certain plays, to perform and generate certain
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  Speaker 1: plays on the field, on the ice, on the court,
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  Speaker 1: wherever it is. The Eagles have worked hard to implement
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  Speaker 1: this play to get it where it is at right now.
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  Speaker 1: And like you were just saying to piggyback off, what
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  Speaker 1: you were just saying, why can't these other teams work
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  Speaker 1: as hard one either to stop it or do it themselves.
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  Speaker 1: Draft large offensive linemen, Draft some really big guys that
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  Speaker 1: are athletic enough to do this. There are tons of
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  Speaker 1: big guys in the NFL, but they can't do it
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  Speaker 1: because they don't have the athleticism to do it. Jeff Stotlin,
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  Speaker 1: when he is part of the Eagles draft room and evaluation,
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: coming into each draft, once athletic base guys that are big.
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  Speaker 1: There's a reason why they selected Cam Jurgens to take
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  Speaker 1: over Jason Kelsey's spot. There's a reason why Landon Dickerson
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: took over left guard after Isaac Saamalu left in free
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  Speaker 1: agency and went to the Pittsburgh Steelers. These guys are
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  Speaker 1: extremely athletic. Yes, they're big, just like every other offensive lineman,
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  Speaker 1: but they're athletic and they've worked hard to perfect this
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  Speaker 1: particular play and craft. And it's amazing to me that
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  Speaker 1: the NFL would come down on a team that works hard,
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: works hard on a play to do it well, and
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  Speaker 1: we'll try to punish them for it.
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  Speaker 2: It's really bizarre to me.
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  Speaker 3: It's jealousy, it's deceitfulness.
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  Speaker 2: Nights. Yes, yeah, it really.
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  Speaker 3: Is surprising to me, and I do one of the reasons,
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  Speaker 3: I do think because of what I just stated, Like
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  Speaker 3: it's such a copycat league.
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  Speaker 2: Other teams could do it. The thing with the push
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  Speaker 2: Push that's what.
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  Speaker 3: We're calling it, right, Yeah, is it has a slogan,
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  Speaker 3: it has a name, it gets it gets top billing
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  Speaker 3: on ESPN whenever this story comes up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's its own brand.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly, And it's really difficult to create a
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  Speaker 3: brand around a single play anymore. Yeah, Like I'm sure
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  Speaker 3: back in like fifty eight, the Statue of Liberty was
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  Speaker 3: a big play, right, and every team did it, but
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  Speaker 3: we I started it. It's called the tush Push. It's
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  Speaker 3: our thing. It's the Eagles thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And there's gotta.
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  Speaker 3: Be some jealousy and deceitfulness on the other owner's parts
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  Speaker 3: that we started it and we branded it. And whenever
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: the stray comes up, it's always about the Eagles. It's
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  Speaker 3: not about anybody else.
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  Speaker 2: And the only other.
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  Speaker 3: Side of the story is these is if you vote
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  Speaker 3: against it, you're a whiny bitch. Yeah, it is kind
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  Speaker 3: of what the other side of the story is. So
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  Speaker 3: like I would just try and copy it to not
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  Speaker 3: be on the whiny bitch side of the story.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, you make a really good point about this,
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  Speaker 1: which I didn't think about the branding of this particular
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  Speaker 1: play and the fact that no other team has a
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  Speaker 1: branded play. And now this is actually the second Eagles
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  Speaker 1: branded play. Now, let's not forget about the Philly Special.
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  Speaker 1: There are two branded plays that the Philadelphia Eagles have
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: in their arsenal, an amazing brand. No other team has
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  Speaker 1: it in the NFL. The Eagles have two of them
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  Speaker 1: right now, the Special and the Push Push. There you go,
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  Speaker 1: it's jealousy and deceitfulness.
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  Speaker 3: But in other teams did the Philly Special. It's different
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  Speaker 3: degrees because college football has been doing it for years.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and and and the.
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  Speaker 3: Philly especially was just kind of a rip off, like
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  Speaker 3: you know, like a text or sec SEC kind of play.
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  Speaker 2: But this, this is very singular to the Eagles.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I do think it's just a if we
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: do it, we're copycat. But I'd rather be a copycat
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  Speaker 3: than a whiny bitch.
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  Speaker 2: Like I said, this team shouldn't be able to do that,
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  Speaker 2: but they are. So what are you gonna do now? Exactly?
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: At least your response to be like, we're gonna we're
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: gonna draft big defensive linemen to stop it. No, it's
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: just it's just this like whiny vote where you lose
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: and you look even worse that you couldn't win a
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: vote twenty all even it was twenty four votes. You
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: couldnt even get that.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Right, right, Yeah, unbelievable.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, we have some other NFL news and
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: notes really cool that we wanted to get into really
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: quick here because I read on a recent newsletter or
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: something that news came out this week that the NFL
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: is going to allow its players to try out for
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: flag football at the twenty twenty eight Olympics.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Wanted to give our.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Thoughts on this too, and apparently the idea from owners
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: to allow NFL players to do this. It's gonna help
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: the sport grow even more throughout the world. And apparently
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: this is gonna be a five on five sport. There's
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: gonna be one quarterback, one running back, three wide receivers.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: One player from each NFL roster may try out for
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty eight Olympic flag football team. Here, Eric,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I cannot imagine a member of the Philadelphia Eagles trying
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: out for this. Hypothetically speaking if AJ Brown's like, you
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: know what, I want to give this a shot. I
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: want to be an Olympian and he like tears his
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: acl or gets some sort of horrendous concussion berates his
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: shoulder because of flag football. I could not imagine something
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: like that happening. I wonder how many NFL players are
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: going to be doing this. I'm serious, I don't This
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: is crazy to me. It's really it's kind of nuts.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: It's it's as dumb as getting her playing golf, which
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: is just the stupidest thing. Like whenever I have a
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: golf in dreaming, Like, what are you talking about? You
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: just standers swinging whatever. Man, And you know, you know
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: my feelings on golf. You should go out with Jay
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: and I sometimes what a waste of time. Not for
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: one second. This this is really dumb. I just I
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: understand what the NFL is trying. I'm sure the NFL
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: has something to do with this. Yeah, it's not as
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: just this didn't just come up in the Olympic heads
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: at like mines one day, like yeah, let's do five
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: on five flag football, Like there's no way. And I
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: think it's cute that there're like any player can try out,
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: like not not one single like starter, any on any
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: team is going to try out to try out for
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: this or like freaking yeah you are Jalen Hurts and
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: I'm going to try.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: All is he going to try it?
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Now?
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, your A J.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Brown comment is a good one, Like maybe he wants
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: to get a gold medal, you know, because he who
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: doesn't want to want to go metal.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: For the country.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: Right, But it's five it's in five on five flag football.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying gold. Some gold medals aren't worth more
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: than others, but they certainly are. Let's just let's just
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: say it out loud. If you win the one hundred meters,
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: it is infinitely more important than a flag football gold medal.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Now you're compared to basketball, an NBA gold medal or
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: NBA sorry, a basketball gold medal in the Olympics is
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: kind of a big deal because the rest of the
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: world is so damn good at basketball now, like the
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Spain porch, like there's so many good Argentina. There's really
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: damn good teams. It's it's a legit competition, like look
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: at look at the last time in the US played
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: France in the finals, like that was outrageously a fantastic
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: game to Steph Curry making like crazy. If I'm just
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: saying like that is one thing. This is not football. Yeah,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: this is the kind of football kids play before they
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: start tackling, like seventh grade. I I I'll say this though,
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: I had the thought when I read the topic, if
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: you're if you're on the cusp of the roster, say
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: for the any team, right, yeah, I am trying out
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: for this with all my might to see if I
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: can make the team, because what a story. No way
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: a team's going to cut you. If you make this
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: flag football team for the US and you win a
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: gold medal, right yes, and you're on a small contract,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: you might get resigned.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: There's no way.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Even that team didn't sign, You're gonna get signed somewhere
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: for at least two.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Years, and you can use that. You can use those
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: two years.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: To to make tons of money in advertising, try to
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: make much money from the NFL as possible. If I'm
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: like a fringe player, I'm I'm going all out for this.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: If I'm not sure if my NFL future, this is
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: this is probably the way to go.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're probably You're probably right, and uh it's
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm actually going to be interested, and that's what
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: pisses me off. I'm actually going to be interested in
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: watching this in twenty twenty eight, at least one game
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: to see what it's like.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: There's gonna be other countries playing. It'll be interesting to
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: see how they do.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Okay, how's Norway gonna do against the US? Like seriously,
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: I know, I don't I don't know. I don't know, but.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: It's for this I don't know.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: I have no clue. And like there's one quarterback, one
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: running behind you, right, and there's three receivers out. Yeah,
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: I guess other countries could do well because there's not
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: a ton of planning. You just kind of get it
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: and throw the ball quick. I guess rugby players could
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: do Okay.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: They could, Australia might rugby teams.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but what what is Pakistan going to do against
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: the United States? I don't understand, Like, yeah.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Who knows, Like Japan, you know they're going to have
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean India.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: You're right, who knows what these teams are going to
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: do with this?
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: It?
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Actually they might love football. I have no clue.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just I'm just thinking of like the teams
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: that only do soccer football in their country, right. I
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: can't imagine they are going to do very well in this.
• 23:34
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• 23:37
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• 24:22
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• 24:24
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• 24:28
  Speaker 1: All right, We're back here and Eric we got to
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: dive into this NBA postseason here, and a little bit
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: of Sixers talk as well. Before we get into the
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia Phillies. Let's get in some predictions here for how
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: this Eastern Conference Finals are gonna go and the Western
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Conference Finals as well. I think both of these series
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: are gonna go seven games. I'm just gonna say that
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: right off the bat. I think you and I are
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: gonna differ in terms of who we think is going
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: to win the Eastern Conference Finals. I am going with
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: the New York Knicks, and I think you're gonna be
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: going with the Pacers if I'm not mistaken here, Look,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: both teams look fantastic, and I think for me, with
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: the Knicks, they were undoubtedly good during the regular season,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: far far from dominant. With I think they had like
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: something like a fifteen and thirteen record after the All
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Star break, they generally beat the teams they were supposed to,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: but they have gotten hot and have been on fire
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: during the course of this postseason here. I think momentum
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: is on their side, one of the reasons why I'm
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: picking them. So No, that wasn't the great analysis in
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: the entire world, but look, I'll let you. I'll let
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: you talk about your prediction here, because I think you
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: got the Pacers correct.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: I like the Pacers and seven. And that has nothing
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: to do with the fact that they're up three and
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: overtime right now. Okay, with fifteen seconds I'm watching on
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: my phone right now.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow again.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Our friend Dave is a lifetime Knicks fan, Yes, longtime
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: friends of our friend of ours. He's got to be
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: shitting his pants right now. I feel really bad for Davis.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: I know this sucks, and I would love to take
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: the Knicks, but I just think the Pacers are a
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: better team top to bottom.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: I think there.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: I think their path to the conference finals was tougher
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: than the Knicks. I think the Celtics are a damn
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: good team. But the Pacers has just wiped out the Calves,
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: the top seed and one of the best teams in
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: basketball all year long. Yeah, and I think people just
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: kind of like, yeah, but at the Pacers, it's like, dude,
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: they crushed the Calves, you know, and like just just
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: completely eviscerated them.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, You've got a player like Tyr's Haliburton as well,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: who he's had like two winning shots too, like he
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: basically game winning shots. In the postseason, he's averaging like
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: seventeen point five points per game, five point five rebounds,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: playoff high nine point three assists, which I mean, he's
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: part of that relentless offense that the Pacers do have.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: But you know, you also look at what Jalen Brunson
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: has done, his consistency over over over these games within
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: this postseason, and he's another reason why I think the
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Knicks can actually get to that next next level, along
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: with Karl Anthony Towns too. I mean, the chemistry I
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: think that the Knicks have here during the postseason. I
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: just wasn't expecting it. Like I said, they they weren't.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: They weren't killing it. They were they were a middling
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: team after the All Star break. You know, they weren't
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: killing it. I wasn't even sure that they were gonna
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: get past the first round, to be honest with you.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: But now the chemistry really seems to be there from
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: that postseason standpoint, again, another reason why I'm picking them. So, yeah,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: you want to move over to the West here and well,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: just real quick, yeah, I mean they're gonna win. PACER's
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: gonna win by three points. That's a massive Game one victory.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: They were down seven points in the fourth quarter of
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: two minutes left.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you can come back and win by three points
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: in overtime in MSG which that place had to be
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: insane tonight, and to go in and just rip the
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: heart out of those fans like that, that is a
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: tough place to start for the Knicks in Game two,
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: and just real quick and looking at the box score,
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: like the Pacers have been doing this all postseason. They
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: have seven guys in double digit scoring. They have guys
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: like Ben Mathurin he didn't really do well tonight offensively
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: with him and Nemhart and Naysmith, they are just mean
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: and nasty players, kind of like the Pistons have. But
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: they also have scoring unlike the Pistons did, and they,
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: like the Knicks, can oftentimes become just the towns brunts
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: and show.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: And that's kind of what happened tonight.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: Like they didn't score a whole ton of points beyond
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: those two, whereas Indiana kind of spread it out across
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: seven players. I just think they're the more well balanced team,
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: and this is a huge game. If I knew this,
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: I'd probably pick them in six games to be honest
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: with you because the six game, the sixth game is
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: in Indiana.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I could say it. Look, I can say it.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: I really could that. My gut was telling me Nicks.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: But of course, after this game won, I mean, wouldn't
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: surprise me at all if the Pacers won in uh
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: in six games? What about? What about in the West?
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm thinking we're both gonna be on the
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: same page. Okay see, after they completely demolished the Tea Wolves,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: my god, I mean, they just absolutely murdered I I'm
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: thinking that series was gonna go in seven games. That
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: actually could go in six, But I was initially thinking
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: seven games because I mean, we saw what the Tea
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Wolves have done so far this postseason and very formidable.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: But man, after last night's ass whooping, I don't know,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: that may have taken something out of the t Wolves,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: you know, some steam out of their engine there.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and and the fact that, okay see, took them
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: seven games beat Denver. On the surface, You're like, man,
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: they should have beat them in five games. But Denver
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: has Yo Kich, Denver has playoff pedigree. And the fact
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: that you know they they came back from from game six.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: We you know loss to to then win game seven,
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: you know yea, And the way they won game seven,
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: they just wiped Denver off the court and that like
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: when they lost game six, I think I text you
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: guys after like during game six, I'm like, Okay, so
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: he's gonna have to like grow some balls here or
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: this is going to be one of those classics, like
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Jordan's not ready to.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Beat the Pistons yet, right, And Pistons weren't ready.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: To beat the Lakers yet, like that whole or of
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: the Celtics, right, Yeah, And like then they came out
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: in Game seven and won by like thirty five points. Yeah,
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: in Game seven, and then the t Wolves have time
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: to prepare and rest and they're up by four points
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: in the third quarter. Okay, see makes one adjustment, maybe
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: two defensively, they went they went small, really smart, and
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: because Nasrieve's been.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Playing like shit, so why not go small, And.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Within like ten minutes, ten minutes of real time, they're
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: up ten and then they go on to win by
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: almost thirty points, down four in the middle of the
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: third quarter, just with simple adjustments.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: They just have way more personnel.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: They have way more draft pick, Like they're just a
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: better run franchise, but like the personnel. Now, what's scary
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: about them is like say they go on to just
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: destroy the Tea. I think they're gonna be I think
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: win the beat up the Taals by like play five games,
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: is playing my prediction. I didn't like how I didn't
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: like how the Taals looked at all, Andrew Anthony Edwards
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: overturn his ankle, didn't like how his shooting was going.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Julius Randall was holding them up. And I never trust
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Julius Randall for as much as like like far as
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: I can throw them. But just just watching that first game,
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: I'm like, man, this is good. This feels like just
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: full example in front of me, Like what's gonna happen
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: this whole series, like the Tales could not just stay
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: with Oka se and okay, see is so frightening. If
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: they go and win the title this year, which I
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: think they're going to, I think so yeah. They have
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: draft picks, capital money around that they could with all
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: of the teams, Like on the second Apron they owe
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: two in a million dollars in tax money next year.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: This team's like destined to go like five six years
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: with this squad. If they want to, and they don't
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: want to, they'll just draft somebody else, pay them less.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Money and do just as well. As long as you
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: keep like the stars around.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we maybe this may be the beginning of a dynasty.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: And look, look, Jalen Williams is probably pissed off because
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: the NBA fined him twenty five thousand dollars for the
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: T shirt thing.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Jesus, I think after last night's performance in the contract,
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: he's gonna get.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, he is a beast.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: They just have beasts up and down the roster. This
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: guy's playing fifteen minutes. I'm like he should play thirty.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: He played thirty minutes for the Sixers.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt, Yes, exactly exactly.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: It's it's you look at where these teams are and
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: where the Sixers are at, and it's a good segue into.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Where that was on purpose.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, where the Sixers are going to be going. Look,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: the number three overall pick nothing to sneeze about.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: The debate is you know who they're gonna take. Is
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: it actually gonna be Ace Bailey? Are they gonna trade
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: the pick? I don't think, just based on reports that
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: have come out, I don't think the Sixers are going
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: to trade the pick, and I don't think they're gonna
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: trade it for some star veteran player like kdfact to
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: our friend of the show, Sean Bernard, and I were
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: talking about it this past week on the Table Talk show.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: You can go back and check out that podcast. I
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: don't think that's gonna happen. I think this team wants
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: to start thinking younger. And maybe that's just my thought
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: process on this Eric, because they have to get younger
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: when you have Paul George and joellenbi I feel like
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Embiad's been around for thirty years at this point, and
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: his body certainly probably feels like he's been in the
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: league for thirty years at this point, but.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Been it's been twelve years, it has twenty fourteen.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, so at this point you have to
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: have more of that young core nucleus. Jared McCain, Tyre MAXI,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: you bring in possibly Ace Bailey. You know that that
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: is a pretty sweet core for the future.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Now, is it?
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Tyrese Haliburton level is a Jalen Brunson level. Probably not,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: But any other type of acquisitions that are made, if
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: if Darryl moy is smart here. I mean, the question is,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: could the Sixers actually make a push next season for
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know, probably the playoffs, probably, but I don't know,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: could they make a push next season, you know, based
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: on what happens during this offseason with acquisitions.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you mean a push, like to actually
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: be in the playoffs, yeah, I mean that would be
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: considered a push, right, considering how.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Awful they were this year. Yeah, I think that's totally possible. Yeah.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: What the biggest thing about winning number three is now
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: they have at least some leverage to maybe do some
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: things right.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: They're pretty well capped out.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: The money is just absurd and beads extenses even Kekenya,
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: it's the worst extension history. Paul George makes more money
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: than Durant. I was looking at that over the next
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: three years.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: It's outrageous.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: But I'm not going to focus on that, like focus
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: on the young to get the number three pick save
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: the season, honestly, the upcoming It's saved the entire tank
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: and the upcoming season because they if it had gone
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: to okay, see at number seven, we wouldn't even talking
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: about the sixtions right now.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Be a joke. Yep.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: The So the thing I like about is they do
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: have leverage to make a trade if they wanted to.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: So they have three, they have the young players, they
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: have the Clippers future first round picks. I mean, who
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: knows how long that team's going to go. Kawhi could
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: get hurt and that team could be shit. But I
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: the what I do kind of what I'm hoping Morey does.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: I kind of don't want him to sit at three
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: and just take Ace Bailey. Really, okay, I Ace Bailey
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: scares me. Ace Bailey for some reason, to me is
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: like the ultimate wild card. I think he has the
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: biggest potential for bust out of the top five. Wow, okay,
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: all right, just because of the way he plays.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: He doesn't play defense. I know he's young.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: I'm just you know, whatever, he can learn to play defense, right,
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Why didn't he play it at all? Rutgers didn't one
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: lick at defense. I know he was in a shitty offense,
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: but he still put a eighteen points. Again his game
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: just I don't know, he's a long wing, he shoots well.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: He just has like busty potential. I think more He's
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: probably more in love with VJ. Edgecomb from from Baylor
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: in terms of today's NBA. He's six', five one hundred
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: and ninety, pounds ridiculous, athlete can get to the rim
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: like Your Jalen brunson's Your Tyree saliburton's. Right he's more
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: in line with what THE nba.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Does.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: NOW i know we HAVE i know we Have maxi and.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: McCain McCain's a shooter And edgecomb can. Shoot WHAT i
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: like to do is either they just sit and Take
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: Edge comb of three or the teams that kind of
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: fell out of the top three or four and are
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: just kicking themselves, now like A utah or The. Pelicans,
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: right they have they have some like they have some
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: good veteran players but still. Young just trade out from
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: like number three to like number seven for like A Herb,
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: jones like throwing LIKE i heard this trade multiple, places
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: like trade number three In Kelly ubrey For Herb jones
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: and number seven you still Get Trey, johnson a good,
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: guard good shooting, guard you get the kid to do,
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: canoeble and you Get Herb jones's an elite. Defender he's
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: proven in THE nba average like fifteen, points could shoot the,
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: three but a phenomenal defender a better version Of Paul
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: george Than Paul george is. Now but something like that
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: or even Like lori marketing from from The utah from number,
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: six like just swap, It like you're not going to
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: go wrong with bringing in a really good you, say.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Veteran these kids. Are they're like twenty, six twenty seven years.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: OLD i know, so and you're still going to get
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: a six or seventh pick of the. Draft that's what
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: number three did for this, franchise AND i think that's
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: what's going to vault them into the.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Playoffs it's not gonna be an. EMBIID i don't.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: Think you even see him be next year until like
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: he had knee surgery at thirty a few months. Ago
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: what did we Give Paul george The Ghost like what
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: the fuck was?
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: It The Ghost?
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: Award, look we had no idea who he, is where
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: he's where he, is what he's. Doing i'm just looking
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: at the core and doesn't involve those two the most
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: expensive guys in the.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Team so we're fucked in that.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Regard but LIKE i do think with the team they
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: have With, maxi with whatever they bring in and McCain
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: and like the pieces they have they could probably make
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: the playoffs because The east is gonna be worse next
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: years Because jest goes to The, west even worse than
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: you can. Imagine, yes absolutely no and no No tatum next. Year,
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: yeah absolutely, yeah getting all emotional.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: There oh my, gosh the microphone.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Were the finals next?
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Year oh my. Gosh all, right great.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Discussion let's move on before we get to our interview
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: and discussion this week With Liz roscher from The hit
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: And season. Podcast talk about This phillies team as we
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: close things up here before the. Break this is a
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: team that's sitting in first place in THE Nl east right.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Now just want to give some quick thoughts on what
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: we've seen from this, team how the season is going thus.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: FAR i, mean there was.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Sight i'm gonna get into this With liz of course,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: too but so many questions even from a pitching. Standpoint
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: the pitching has certainly seemed to. Stabilize from the starting pitching,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: standpoint the bullpen still so many. QUESTIONS i feel, like you,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: know there's they just don't have a good handle on,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: things and especially after Now Jose alvarado with his, suspension
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: what the heck is gonna? Happen like the whole next
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: man up theme is gonna be very prevalent over these
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: next weeks and. Months who is gonna step. Up the trade,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: deadline of, course is gonna BE i, think very imperative
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: in terms of the. Bullpen they're gonna need to bring
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: in some sort of, Piece, Eric but, overall this is
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: a team that's playing, well and LIKE i feel like
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: there's not the excitement that there should. Be they're in
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: first place in THE nl right. Now The mets have
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: faltered a little bit here and there over the past,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: week week and a half or, so and it's this
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: team has been. Consistent they're beating teams that they need
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: to beat as. Well that's a key component of baseball in.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: General The phillies are having a darn good season in
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: my opinion so, Far.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Jeff they're the top team in The National. League, yes,
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: yeah Second detroit in all of. BASEBALL i, KNOW i.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Feel like the fan base like isn't there, though you
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: know WHAT i? Mean, LIKE i feel like there's sectors
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: of this fan base you're, like, man they should be
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: a bit more dominant and, stuff and you kind of
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: hear it and see it and then, yes it's on
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: Stupid twitter AND x but, man.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Shut the just shut the fuck.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: UP i, MEAN i know this is A philly sports
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: show for the, fans but shut the fuck. Up YEAH i,
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: know but that's what the show's, About like like, hooray
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: horay or shut the fuck.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Up like it's just.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah BUT i Mean i'm going through the stats right
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: now as a. TEAM i, mean for all the complaining
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: we do about trade, turns, right he's averine, three he's
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: our top.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Hitter it's not him.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: Close, Yes schwarber's Having Babe ruth type home run, numbers.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Which by the, way for his age in his, career
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: he's like had this, resurgence like this second resurgence of his.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Career it's. Incredible let's just not test his. Blood let's
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: just let it. Go let.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Ride i'm not saying there's nothing, happening but, YEAH i just.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: INCREDIBLE casti has been. Solid stottonbaum are finally like kind
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: of heating up a little, Bit thank The lord for For,
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: Wheelers lozardo And. SANCHEZ i, mean our starters are Just
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: Aaron nola's. Done APPARENTLY i didn't get the memo that he's.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Cooked his career is. Over he has been horrendous this.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Year.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Like like Like John lieber two thousand and seven, bad
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: two thousand and six, bad like the. Worst He's he's,
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Horrendous like everything he goes out, There i'm, like should
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: we do?
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: THIS i wonder How, yeah how long is he going
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: to be on the entail walker pitch? Instead? Yes, WALKER
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: i know because he's. Playing he is pitching well this,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: year he absolutely.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: Is AND i mean and EVEN i mean Swore as
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: his pitching, poorly but he also had some injuries like
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: maybe he'll bring it.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Back but but.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: You're right, THOUGH i, mean Besides strom and Besides, alvarado
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: who we're not going to see you seem no. MORE i,
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: mean they they don't have much in the way of
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: pitching like they're gonna have like if Can painter come
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: up and do some starting down the?
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: Road can they able kid do it? Again?
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: Yes and and and can they make some moves for
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: some bullpen relief because they're gonna need it now with
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: With alvarado. Gone but they just have this is kind
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: of like that, consistency like that that veteran, consistency and
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: the young guys are starting to heat, up like this
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: is kind of what you. Expected offensively And it does
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: help that you play The rockies And pirates back to,
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: back but still you're supposed to beat the shit out
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: of those teams and they, did so you're the second
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: best team in.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Baseball i'm not.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: Going to, complain all, right exactly like how many games
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: into the season for, Yeah, like.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Don't complain about, it folks that quit being jerk.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Offs, LISTEN i had the sixers all year and you't.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: CONSISTENT i, no, NO i don't want to hear. It
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: it's not not.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Cool, like all, right, well, Buddy i'm gonna let you.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Go we're gonna talk To Liz rocher in just a few. Minutes,
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: yeah what's?
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: UP i remember we sued to talk To Liz rocher
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: when she was just for The Hitting season.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Podcast, yeah she was the writer For Yahoo sports as. Well,
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: yeah but now she works For. Saber like IS nasa? Next?
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Like what is what is going on with?
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: Her?
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: UH i know her resume is fantastic at this. Point
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: stupid Stupid Yahoo sports let her go for some. Reason
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: now she's With. Saber it's freaking. Awesome it's.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: FUN i think the first time we would talk to,
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: HER i she AND i realized we're at the Same
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: Phillies mets. GAME i was, there my. Family she be
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: there with her like fiance or.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Something, yeah, yeah. Yeah now we're, like, yeah yeah.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah now she like she would, uh she'd be in
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: a luxury. BOOTH i wouldn't be allowed near.
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: It probably next you'd be, like, hey this Is eric
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: from The philadelphia sports.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Table she'd, say get him out of. Here do you
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: have my? Drink i'm at the, Waiter get out of,
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: It get out of my.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Face, yes all, right, BUDDY i am gonna let you,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: go But i'm gonna see in a couple of. Days
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: you AND i got a concert that we're gonna be
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: seeing this. Weekend, uh we're gonna be seying some we're
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: gonna be saying some metal.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Stuff just say the name of the, Band Jeff, obituary.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: Folks, yes we couldn't really see the name of the
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: last band we went and.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Saw we really. Couldn't eric can barely wear THE t
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: shirt he GOT i weard around the. House, yes my
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: kids seeing me, like, oh dad's wearing his shirt.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: Again it says, dirty dirty things on.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: It so, yes, Buddy i'll see in a few days
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: at the, show and we're gonna take a quick. Break everyone,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: here And i'm gonna pay some. Bills we're gonna be
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: back in just a.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Bit and now on the, table.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: All, right and joining us now to talk about This
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia phillies, team how this season has been, going and
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: to get into a robust discussion about who are The Philadelphia.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Phillies we have from The hit And season, podcast and
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: she's over AT saber as. Well if you don't know,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: folks WHAT saber, is it is The society For American Baseball.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Research she's. Fantastic we love having. Her Ms Liz, Rocher
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: how you, Doing?
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: Liz i'm doing.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Great how are? You i'm doing all.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Right i've been enjoying the season to, believe believe it or,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: not i'd be ups and. Downs they're in first place right.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Now how can we not enjoy the season with my?
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: Goodness it's.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: This looks.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: Good, YES i mean they're not playing The, yankees but
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: you know they're supposed to beat bad. Teams that's the
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: point we're supposed to. Do but allowed to enjoy.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: That it was like last year when they had that,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: amazing you, know first half of the.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Season so they're, like, well they're they're beating bad.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: Team, well, yes good teams are supposed to beat bad,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: teams and when you're playing a good, team it's supposed
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: to be a competitive.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Game that's what's supposed to happen in, sports.
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: Right that's exactly.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Right, gosh all.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Right, well let's get into the topic in the theme, Here,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: liz which, is you, know who are The phillies? Here
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: because there are questions about who and what aspects of this.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Team you know who they, are what their identity. Is
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: but of course we need to really talk about the
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: bullpen because of the big story from this past, week of,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: course talking About Jose alvarado his, suspension what it means
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: for This phillies bullpen and the team. Overall it's a huge,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: loss to say the. LEAST i know you all have
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: talked about it over at The hit And season podcast,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: already tons of other folks talking about this as, well
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: in terms of not just how it affects The, phillies
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: how it may affect THE Nl, east and just where
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: this team goes in the. FUTURE i, mean we can
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: assume they're probably gonna be looking to acquire a closer
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: before the trade day at. Deadline at this, point who.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: KNOWS i think they probably will wondering what are your
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Thoughts lis on what happens with the bullpen as a
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: result Of alvarado's suspension.
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: Here, well the news isn't. Amazing i'd say there's some
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: guys that we don't really. Trust Tanner BANKS i think
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: has been a little bit better of, late BUT i
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: don't trust, him Right Orian, kirkering he's still having a rough. Time,
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: uh let's. See Matt straw has been a little bit.
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: Steadier he's been looking. Good but you know There's Joe.
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: ROSS i keep forgetting who that.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: IS i know me.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: TOO i don't Think i've Seen Carlos hernandez in like
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: a week and a.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Half it's been a. While.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: Yep i'm looking at some of the other names on
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: The baseball Ref is just to make SURE i get,
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: Anybody And i'm, like who Is Matt? BLAZAAR i don't
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: know who that. IS i doubt in one.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Game one game that's. It we're probably gonna end up
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: seeing him maybe a little bit.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: More who knows what's gonna happen, Here but, like this
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: is significant not Having alvarado in the in this.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: Bullpen, yeah he was the one guy that you knew
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: That Rob thompson, trusted even if he sometimes gave you
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: reasons not. To he was the one guy That thompson always, trusted,
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: Yes and he was the guy he'd always slot at
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: the at the end of the game or if it
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: was a real difficult seventh or, eight then he'd call
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: him in then because he knew That alvarado's speed could
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: get it done if he could just overcome the control.
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: Issues right, now things aren't quite as quite As. Rosie
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: it's hard to figure out who's going to slot in where,
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: Right and LIKE I i don't Think Rob thompson has
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: been too strict over the past couple of years about bullpen.
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: Rolls like he has a couple of GUYS i remember
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: from last year in the year, before if you guys
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: he'd like to use near the end of the. GAME
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: a few guys he'd, use you, know if if a
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: start was, short one or two, guys you'd be okay
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: with long. Relief and it's it's a little bit more
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: amorphous this. Year it's just it's a little it's a
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: big wobbled jello thing.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: AND i feel like it's it's throw something against the
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: wall here at this particular point in, time during the,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: game and let's see if it. STICKS i feel like
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: we're seeing a lot of that this year.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: Exactly and this is sort of the time to figure that. Out,
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: yeah you know right, now like they're playing The rockies right.
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: Now i'll ADMIT i don't know how The a's are.
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: Doing that's who they play. After but they play The
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: a's next in a minor league fields the second time
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: this year they've played in a minor LEAGUE s, medium
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: and they did pretty well against The. Rays they're not
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: the same, team but like these, are this is the
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: time where it's gonna be okay For thompson to sort
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: of figure. Out all, right let's decide that this Is
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: Jordan romano, week and let's see how he performs at
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: the end of. Games, yes you know this is you
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: know we're gonna eventually they'll have to figure out something
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: to do With Taiwan, walker right, Right they'll have to
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: figure out what to do with, him SINCE i don't
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: THINK i mean if they include him in a. Trade
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: my guess is that if they trade for someone at
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: the deadline they'll include they'll Include Taiwan walker as a
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: salary jump and make that like a make that like
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: a condition of the. TRADE i, MEAN i wouldn't mind
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: that because he is sort of the odd man out,
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: sometimes So i've been impressed with how he's done for
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: the most.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Part, yeah AND i think, that you, know up until
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: the trade, deadline he could be that integral part of the.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: Bullpen but it leads to that question, of you, know
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: what is the identity of this? Bullpen we just, said you,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: know they're trying to just throw some stuff at the
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: wall in certain game situations and seeing what. STICKS i
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: don't necessarily think that's going to work for postseason. Success
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: so they're trying to figure it out right, now like you,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: said but.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Really what is the identity of this?
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Bullpen in your opinion, Here, liz what are your thoughts constant?
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: TERROR i would say. THAT i, mean right, now they
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: don't have their. Identity Is Jose alvarado got? Popped, yeah
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: and that's kind of their. Identity no one's thinking beyond
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: that if they're not A phillies. Fan, yes and SO
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: i think they are going to use the next couple
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: of weeks to figure that. Out they do have, to
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: they do have to figure something, out AND i Trust
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: Dave dombrowski to get it.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Done Dave DOMBROWSKI i think for the most, Part liz
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: has really done a good job in terms of baseball
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: valuation and whether it's the scouting team and, department but.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: His overall decision.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Making, look there's NO, gm there's no player personnel person
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: In Major League baseball that's going to be one hundred
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: percent all the time and they're not going to hit
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: all the. Time But Dave, DOMBROWSKI i think in, general
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: over the years he has been here In philadelphia has
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: done a pretty damn good job making sure that the
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: acquisitions that are brought in are control cotributing to the
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: way they thought that they were possibly going to contribute
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: to the. Team of, course there have been a few
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: farts here and. There, okay there absolutely have, been but,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: again nobody is. Perfect Dave DOMBROWSKI i think is a
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: pretty pretty good front office personnel for where this team
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: needs to go in the, direction in the direction he's
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: taken the.
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: Team absolutely if this team made, it like he had
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: a year of an evaluation year and he did a
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: couple of things, then but like pretty much right after
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: that he dove right, In, yeah and he made changes
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: that this team.
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: Needed he provided. Stability he made sure that you, know
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: the the guys on the field were talking to the
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: guys in front of the computers and they were talking
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: to you, know the gms and assistant gms and everyone's
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: communicating and make sure that everyone down in the miners
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: is on the same. Page like, that in and of
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: itself is such a huge, improvement AND i think you
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: can see it with The. Phillies haven't gotten some really,
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: positive some really positive contributions for minor league guys over
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: the past couple of. Years, ABSOLUTELY i mean we just
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: saw make able to have a great. Start Cody clemens
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: would come up every now and Then west And wilson
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: like there are more Guys i'm, forgetting but those are
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: the ones that jump to, mind that are that are
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: products of A i would say a good minor league,
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: system because even if not all of them Are phillies.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Prospects, right how About Bryson stott too coming up and
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: he was In TRIPLE. A i was watching him In
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: TRIPLE a for a.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: While, yes that.
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: IS i mean him And Alec boum are also really big.
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: Wins AND i think the fact that they were able
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: to make it to where they were and then catch
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: on so easily to What dobrowski was having everybody. Do
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: it just shows how great their talent level is and
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: why they've both been able to stick in the. MAJORS
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: i will stand here and take, everyone's, uh take everyone's
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: praise for being absolutely right last year WHEN i constantly
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: said the steam like a one year thing For, stott
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: just give it some, time, Right and it's true he
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: was injured and now he's.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: Back absolutely.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, look we're gonna get into some of the, battings
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: some of the offense that we have seen from some
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: of these guys who are starting to become veterans on
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: this team, here who we deemed to be. Veterans BUT
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: i wanted to stick with the pitching here with, You,
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: liz because the starting pitching here has been, very very
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: interesting this twenty twenty five season in terms of who
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: is This phillies team and the theme that we're talking about.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Here we've seen some pieces of success when it comes
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: to certain. Pitchers you Mentioned Mick abel his call, up
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: and my, gosh what an amazing first Major league debut
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: for that Gentleman Tywan walker you mentioned. Before they both, performed,
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: well it's Got Zach, Wheeler Christopher, Sanchez Jezus lozardo having
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: really nice. Seasons but you, know when you look at
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: the pitching, overall which has done and fared very very,
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Well i'm wondering your thoughts on the identity of this
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: starting pitching this season when we talk about you know that,
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: phrase you, know who are? They what are your thoughts, Here.
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: LIZ i think they're a pretty fearsome. Bunch, YEAH I
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: they're not a rotation that eighteen likes to see coming
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: because they've got right, now they've got like three guys
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: that are just absolutely mowing guys. Down two of, Them
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: Zach wheeler And Hayesu's lozardo are like on the leader
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: boards for all of. Baseball you go to The Baseball
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: reference leaderboards right, now and you could See wheeler's name
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: And luzardo's name on. THERE i, Mean luzarna actually IS
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: i think a, WELL i think it. DEPENDS i DON'T
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: i have a check since his last, start but last
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: TIME i Saw lozarder had like a slightly higher pitcher.
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: War he actually still. Does he is a higher pitcher
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: war Than Zach, wheeler which is.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: Nuts that is, Crazy.
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: Like what every Season Dave debrowski has made one one
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: opposition one, trade one something that has really changed and
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: helped the team this. Year It's, lozardo which is just
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: a brilliant. MOVE i don't even remember who they gave
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: up For. LOZARDO i don't.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: Care, YES i don't even remember. Either but, look, LOOK
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: i mean this isn't pitching. Either like we were talking
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: about With Dave, DOMBROWSKI i think he deserves a lot
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: more credit at times and what he. Gets but let's
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: look at all, right our good friend and, buddy mutual
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: Buddy John stallness and his takes On Max kepler before the.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Season and, Look Max kepler hasn't been the greatest baseball
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: player necessarily this, season but it's been a productive member
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: of this team so. FAR i didn't actually mind. IT
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: i don't mind what's going. On but like you, Said
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: Dave dombrowski doing a damn good job bringing these guys,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: in and the fact that pitching was such the concentrated
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: effort during this, OFFSEASON i think we're seeing the fruits
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: of that really come into fruition.
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: Here, absolutely it's Been it's nice to know that there's
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: some kind of plan with. Everyone, Yes like everyone was
• 56:51
  Speaker 4: so frustrated When Andrew painter lost two, years but The
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: phillies didn't. Panic they, said, listen this kid has talent
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: and we know. It we've, helped we've developed. It so
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: he's going to get this done and he's going to
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: come back. Better it'll be, frustrating but this is our.
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: Plan like they actually willingly shared a plan or like
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: parts of a, plan which is not something that The
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: phillies have done in the, past, Right AND i think
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: it just shows how much they care, about you, know
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: him as a prospect and all the work that they've
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: put in and that they're not they're just they're never
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: getting ahead of. Themselves they've made the decisions that have
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: to be made and they're just going to stick with
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: it and. Go not that they're you, know calcified in their,
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: ways but they you, know they know a good plan
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: and they're just sticking to. It it's it's kind of
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: overwhelming to see our team apts so well.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Exactly make good decisions being, made people, producing you, know
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: As phillies fans throughout our entire.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: Lives you, know this is a new thing over these
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: past few. Years for.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: Sure again yeah, again, folks we're talking To Liz rocher
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: from the hitt And season podcast and does she is
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: over At saber as well doing some good good. Work
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: search her out On Blue Sky Liz. ROCHER i follow her,
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: there fantastic. FOLLOW i post the show over On twitter
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: slash x every now and. Then are you still over
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: there at all or?
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: NOT i keep my account, there, yeah BECAUSE i can't
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: get rid of. IT i, mean even though my husband's
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: account has been his original account has was. Suspended that's
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: where my husband AND i, met and so we met On,
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: twitter and so it JUST i can't get rid of my.
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: Account i'll never. Leave, yeah AS i, Said i'll never
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: leave this, place, yep as horrible as it, is BUT
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: i do not go there. Routinely LIKE i went there
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: to post my recent job news and like it was
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: incredible the change in.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: Reach absolutely absolutely we.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: Could we could do a whole show on. That but
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: we're talking about The, Phillies, yes yes we. Are we're
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: talking about The phillies, Here so moving along with the,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: CONVERSATION i want to talk about the bats, now moving
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: over to, them AND i want to kind of divvy
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: these guys up here in terms of of who is
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: This phillies team and what the identity. Is AND i
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: want to really dissect the players WHO i think we
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: could describe as the true star veterans on this. Team
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: i'm talking About Bryce, Harper Trey, TURNER j T Real.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: MUTO i even you, know hesitate to Put Nick cassianos
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: in this. Group so when you look at this group
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: of gentlemen in terms of their offensive, productivity here these
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: star veteran players as a, Whole, liz who are they
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: when it comes to this offense and this.
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: Batting they are becoming more, Consistent they're becoming more. CONSISTENT
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: i don't think As Kyle schwarber was in that, group
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: But i'd put him in there for.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah. Absolutely and he you.
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: Know he's he's been the he's been sort of the
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: canary and the coal mine for the the veterans on the.
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: Whole Bryce harper's been HAVING i, mean HE'S i didn't
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: realize he's hitting two seventy. TWO i still remember when
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: he was hitting much less than, that and it just
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: sort of picked up an, instant which is what he
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: does and who he. Is his power still isn't, great
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: AND i still think that is a result of his
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: surgery is emo searchery from a few years, ago and
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: almost certainly his desire to get back as suit as humidly. Positible,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: yes it's a decision that was, made AND i you,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: know whether or NOT i agree with, it it's immateial.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: Now But i'm glad to see him doing. Better AND
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: i think it's probably time for, me at least everyone
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: else can do what they want for me at least
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: to kind of stop expecting the power to come back
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: and just sort of enjoy what he is because he's great,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: Still he's still an incredible, Player like he's been able
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: to pull his batting average up without a whole ton
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: of like, power, Right AND i think that's. Great what about.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: The almost WHAT i like to call the almost stars
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: on this, team you, know on the flip side of,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: things you, know we want to look at the offense
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: from the on this. Team, again they're not veteran, stars
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: but they're important to the team's. Success players Like Bryson,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: Stott Alec, Bohm brandon marsh, even LIKE i mentioned, Earlier
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: Max kepler as. Well when you when we start asking
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: that question of like who are, they how would you
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: describe this crop of guys and the talent that they
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: have brought to the team this, YEAR.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: I think it's. OUTSTANDING i, mean Both stott And Alec
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: bohm are keeping their averages looking pretty. Good Bryson stott's
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: on base percentage is. Climbing you, know neither of them are,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: powerhouses but they've you, know they've been able to knock
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: onon or two at really opportune. Times, yeah as for the,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: REST i don't know if i'd put them in the
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: same group As Alc baum And Bryson. Stott, Right Max
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: kepler hasn't been a massive, disappointment and that he's hitting
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: above The mendoza line and have five home, runs, YEP
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: i would, SAY i, MEAN i wouldn't call it a,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: win but i'd call. It calling it neutral seems a
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: little too, petty pleasant perhaps least surprised there's still room
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: for him to do. Better he's hitting two nine with
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: a three twelve on base which is not, great not
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: good at, All but like they've been able to contribute
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: important things at important, times AND i think that's what
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: this team is sort of getting that like the eight team,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: had you, know those teams in that. Era it's that
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: not everyone's gonna be able to get it done every, night,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: right but we need to make, sure you, know there's
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: going to be someone every night who's gonna be able
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: to try hard or to pull us over the. Line you.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: Know sometimes It's shmarber hitting two home, runs you, know
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: and putting the team on his. Back sometimes It's harper
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: hitting a bunch of. Doubles sometimes It's bryce And, stott you,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 4: know going three for five with you, know a triple
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: and a home. Run, yep you, know it's. All everyone
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: has a part to, play and everyone knows that they
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: can contribute any time it. Point and that's that's what
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: those teams. Had you knew that someone was always going
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: to step up or at least try to step up
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: and make the difference so they can win the. Game
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: AND i think we've seen that a lot over the
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: past few.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: Weeks, yeah, absolutely absolutely, Correct.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: Liz BEFORE i let you, go my, FRIEND i want
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: to talk about one particular individual and He, no he
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: doesn't get into the batter's, box doesn't run around the,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: bases doesn't play defense at, all but he's an important
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: component of who This phillies team. Is when we're talking
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: about who are The phillies want to get into the
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Manager Rob. Thompson and with that theme we've been discussing,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: here who are The. Phillies how Does Rob thompson as
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: the manager of this team really fit into the equation?
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Here in your, opinion.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: He's definitely more background even than he was last. Year,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: yeah AND i THINK i don't think that's a bad.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: Thing if the teams seemed like they were floundering without
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: leaders ship or whatever it, is, LIKE i don't know
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: if there's like a clubhouse leader. LEADER i Know schwarber
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: sort of takes a role In castianos, occasionally but it
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: feels sort of like this, Year thompson is, like everybody
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: knows what their job. Is, YEAH i don't have to
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: tell anybody what they're supposed to do because everybody already.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: Knows everyone's you, know coming to, work going to their,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: lockers doing all of their, exercises doing everything they should
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: and coming. Back you, know my job is to put,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 4: stuff you, know put guys in the game and take them.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: Out and there have been times he's made some puzzling,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: decisions but by and Large i've been. Happy by, Large
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: i've been really happy with how he's done this. YEAR
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: i was looking again on Their Baseball reference. Page you,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: know they've had fifteen players play positions this, year And
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: i'm just used to this list being so much. Longer,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: yes and by the end of the, season it'll definitely be.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: Longer but he's had he's been able to take advantage
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: of the stability and move guys, around which in the
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: past he was not he did not like. Doing, yeah
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: we would see the same the same, lineup AND i
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: know that even The, phillies Even thompson who's been switching,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: lineups The phillies still HAVE i think used the least
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: amount of different. Lineups BUT i think that's because he's
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: comfortable with where guys. Are he knows that the guys
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: are comfortable with where they, are and unless they are
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: going to be, major you, know major issues with how they're,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: hitting THEN i don't there's no reason to change them
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: except for you, know this reason or that. Reason, Yeah
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 4: SO i think it's a. Positive think it has been.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: Great he's continuing to, grow AND i think you want
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: that with any manager in, baseball with any coach in any,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: sport and it's really nice to see that he's continuing
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: with that. Growth you, know with This phillies team that
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  Speaker 1: we have a lot of high hopes for this. Season
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  Speaker 1: so that being, said, folks She's Liz. Roe sure you
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  Speaker 1: can hear her awesome voice as well over on The
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  Speaker 1: hit And season, podcast and she is also doing great
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  Speaker 1: work over at The society For American baseball Res Search. Saber,
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  Speaker 1: liz thank you so, much my friend for taking the.
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  Speaker 1: Time it was great talking to. You a great scene
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  Speaker 1: you and come back join us And i'd love to
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  Speaker 1: get into More phillies and more baseball talk with.
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  Speaker 4: You. Absolutely, hey good news The tush push.
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  Speaker 2: Survived, YES i know Were eric AND i were talking
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  Speaker 2: about that. Earlier it's awesome and, yes to pull back the.
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  Speaker 1: Curtain liz AND i were talking about this probably about
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  Speaker 1: an hour and a half after we got.
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  Speaker 4: THERE i haven't talked to.
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  Speaker 2: Anything it's.
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  Speaker 1: Fantastic you know, what all those teams that decided and those,
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  Speaker 1: owners those ten votes that said, no we want to ban,
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  Speaker 1: it try to stop.
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  Speaker 2: It how about, That try to stop The tush. Push
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  Speaker 2: get to.
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  Speaker 1: That next level, yourselves try to stop. It The eagles
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  Speaker 1: have worked hard to get to where they are at
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  Speaker 1: to perfect AN nfl. PLAY a lot of teams around
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  Speaker 1: THE nfl work hard to perfect certain. Things eagles have
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  Speaker 1: done it in this. Regard try to work hard and
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  Speaker 1: perfect stopping.
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  Speaker 2: It that's WHAT i. SAY i don't know what are your? Thoughts?
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  Speaker 4: Yep, yeah this twenty two owners that looked at the touch,
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  Speaker 4: Push so it's twenty two owners that voted in favor of.
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  Speaker 4: It looked, said, well we have something like this that
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  Speaker 4: we've done or there's no reason why we can't do.
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  Speaker 4: This why would we not want? To it's a really
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  Speaker 4: good football, play, Yes and that's how they. Voted like
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  Speaker 4: it shows that that all of the crap we've been
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  Speaker 4: hearing about the touch push is coming from like just
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  Speaker 4: one small group of.
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  Speaker 2: Guys.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, PROBABLY i would love to see. WHO i don't
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  Speaker 4: know if we know who voted, no But i'd love to.
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  Speaker 4: See and if we, DON'T i could take some guesses
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  Speaker 4: because it's almost certainly a lot of bad. Teams, yes,
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  Speaker 4: absolutely whiney whiny.
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  Speaker 1: Owners absolutely great way to end this. Show, again, folks
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  Speaker 1: she Is Liz. Rocher find her over On Blue sky
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  Speaker 1: just search her out and she's a, great great Follow.
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  Speaker 1: AGAIN i would love to have you on the show
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  Speaker 1: at some other point down the. Road liz join us
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  Speaker 1: at whether it's over the. Summer i'd love to.
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