Latest / Becker’s Payer Issues Podcast / Integrating Specialty Pharmacy into Electronic Health Record Workflows: Unlocking Enhanced Value
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- 0:00Hello, everyone. This is Erica Spicer Mason with
- 0:02Becker's Healthcare.
- 0:04Thank you so much for tuning in to
- 0:05the Becker's Healthcare podcast series.
- 0:08So today, we're going to talk about how
- 0:10integrating specialty pharmacy into EHR workflows
- 0:13can support strategic objectives like improving care coordination,
- 0:17patient outcomes, and operational efficiency.
- 0:20And joining me for this discussion is Jim
- 0:22Blondin, the senior director of digital product strategy
- 0:25at Accredo Specialty Pharmacy.
- 0:28Jim, welcome to the podcast. Thank you for
- 0:30being here today. Yeah. Thanks, Erica. Glad to
- 0:32be here.
- 0:34Just a little bit about myself. As you
- 0:36mentioned, I'm senior director of digital product at
- 0:38Accredo.
- 0:39I've been with the organization for about twenty
- 0:41years. I originally am a pharmacist,
- 0:44spent a number of years across our,
- 0:46more complex therapies running branch operations,
- 0:50and have been in a variety of roles
- 0:52across operations and strategy over the last several
- 0:54years,
- 0:55most recently in digital product.
- 0:57Our team is ultimately responsible for all of
- 0:59our digital tools,
- 1:01all of the client facing, patient facing, prescriber
- 1:04facing tools,
- 1:05as well as prior off product improvements
- 1:08from a specialty pharmacy perspective.
- 1:11Yeah. Fantastic. Jim, really appreciate the context.
- 1:15Super helpful to know. And so I know
- 1:17that EHRs really are kind of at the
- 1:19center of a lot of conversations in health
- 1:21care, whether that's digital transformation or or administrative
- 1:24burden. You know, e EHRs are oftentimes the
- 1:27center of a lot of initiatives that health
- 1:29systems are deploying right now. But from your
- 1:31perspective, how are health care leaders' expectations
- 1:34changing when it comes to EHR functionality,
- 1:37especially in supporting more complex areas like specialty
- 1:40pharmacy?
- 1:41Yeah. Great great question. Yeah. Yeah. Due to
- 1:44the complexity of the specialty meds, there were
- 1:46a lot of required data elements to support
- 1:48care
- 1:49that go above and beyond the the ERX
- 1:52transaction or standard e prescription.
- 1:54This ultimately results in delays and starts of
- 1:57care because
- 1:59as a pharmacy, you tend to get the
- 2:00prescription,
- 2:01but the supporting documentation isn't always there. So
- 2:04there's a lot of back and forth between
- 2:05the pharmacy and the prescriber to obtain
- 2:08labs,
- 2:10high way procedures,
- 2:12and and ultimately progress notes as well to
- 2:14support the therapy and clinically manage those patients.
- 2:18Between health information exchange connections, direct
- 2:21EHR connections, and other connections to intermediaries,
- 2:25EHR data become in a critical piece of
- 2:26the care continuum,
- 2:28specifically for specialty pharmacy. And by leveraging this
- 2:30data, specialty pharmacy can improve the processing
- 2:34of the prescription, reducing start to,
- 2:37care time, as well as reducing
- 2:39what we call gaps in care for existing
- 2:41patients when they might have a prior auth
- 2:44that is due when their their renewal prescription
- 2:47is ready.
- 2:48And, ultimately,
- 2:49leveraging this data can reduce the prescriber abrasion.
- 2:53Yeah. Prescriber abrasion. It's such a good term,
- 2:56Jim, and it's actually something I wanted to
- 2:59go a little bit deeper on here.
- 3:01You know, you mentioned some of the ways
- 3:02that
- 3:03that EHRs can
- 3:05certainly become more more complex when it comes
- 3:07to specialty pharmacy. But
- 3:09what role does EHR integration play in reducing
- 3:12friction across specialty pharmacy workflows, and how does
- 3:16that translate into improved patient and provider experiences?
- 3:20Yeah. Oftentimes, especially meds have many clinical requirements
- 3:23such as weight or indication based dosing,
- 3:27titration based dosing
- 3:29to to make sure the patient's tolerant and
- 3:31response to therapy is correct.
- 3:33Labs and test results are typically needed to
- 3:35support therapy.
- 3:37A lot of times DME or the pumps,
- 3:39orders,
- 3:40ancillary meds, and home nursing orders are all
- 3:43all needed to start therapy.
- 3:45And many of these, are require a form
- 3:48from the prescriber,
- 3:49in in current state.
- 3:51Those forms come in the form of prior
- 3:53auth forms,
- 3:55referral forms,
- 3:56REMS forms,
- 3:58HIPAA consents,
- 4:00patient assistant forms. So there's a variety of
- 4:03documents that pharmacies tend to get.
- 4:06And Surescripts recently cited a study that that
- 4:08says prescribers spend about three hours per week
- 4:12filling out paperwork to get patients started on
- 4:14a specialty med, while their nurses, roughly 50%
- 4:17of those nurses spend about ten additional hours
- 4:19per week on what on top of what
- 4:22the prescriber is doing to get a patient
- 4:23on therapy or get patients on therapy.
- 4:26And many of these fields on the forms
- 4:28are already present,
- 4:30present in the prescriber EMR,
- 4:33And,
- 4:33it's really a duplication of effort from the
- 4:36prescriber perspective as well as the pharmacy
- 4:38if you have access to that record.
- 4:41Therefore,
- 4:42you know, by obtaining access, you can reduce
- 4:44the friction and, again, reduce time to start
- 4:46a therapy and improve clinical management of these
- 4:49patients.
- 4:50Mhmm.
- 4:51Yeah. And I know as health systems are
- 4:53looking at any opportunity
- 4:55that they can to reduce
- 4:57administrative burden for their team. So it sounds
- 4:59like certainly that duplication of forms is a
- 5:02a key area
- 5:04that you've identified.
- 5:06And I know that EHR capabilities,
- 5:08they are expanding. You know, we're seeing,
- 5:10some providers add, you know,
- 5:13AI and other functions to EHRs. And then
- 5:15at the same time, specialty pharmacy is growing
- 5:17very quickly in the health care ecosystem. So
- 5:20what strategies or tools or even new models
- 5:23are emerging
- 5:25to better support access adherence and care continuity?
- 5:29Yeah. It's HR capability expands or automation capabilities
- 5:32such as EHR data ingestion,
- 5:35parsing technology to help distill the relevant information
- 5:38out of that chart,
- 5:40to support the therapy.
- 5:41Prior auth automation,
- 5:43which sometimes includes AI, as you had mentioned,
- 5:45to improve benefit investigation,
- 5:48as well as enhanced partnerships with prescribers to
- 5:51leverage that EHR data, as well as the
- 5:54AI to facilitate prior auth requests more efficiently.
- 5:57And when we have EHR data, we're seeing
- 6:00about a three to four day improvement
- 6:02in turnaround time for pharmacy
- 6:04prior auth
- 6:06and up to about seven day improvement in
- 6:09turnaround
- 6:10for prior auths related to medical
- 6:13covered therapies
- 6:14in our most complex
- 6:16therapy,
- 6:17groups when they're infused. So,
- 6:19we have that EHR data. We can significantly
- 6:22reduce turnaround time. And, again, that that
- 6:24that's the back and forth between the prescriber
- 6:28obtaining data that we we we tend to
- 6:31have access to already within that EHR flow.
- 6:34So it's it's a much better experience.
- 6:37Mhmm.
- 6:38Yeah. Thanks, Jim.
- 6:39And I know that we've we've touched on
- 6:41prior authorization just a little bit already.
- 6:43But can you elaborate on how enhanced EHR
- 6:46integration can help health plans improve the prior
- 6:49auth process efficiency and also reduce some of
- 6:52that admin burden for both patients and providers?
- 6:56Yeah. You know, I represent this this specialty
- 6:59pharmacy. This response is is kinda from my
- 7:01perspective and what I've seen in the market.
- 7:04But really through EHR data integration, the health
- 7:06plan can develop
- 7:07insights in the patient's clinical journey. They better
- 7:10understand a complete picture of the pharmacy and
- 7:12medical claims data to support care. And by
- 7:15leveraging this info, many of the required PA
- 7:17elements can be automatically answered such as questions
- 7:20related to
- 7:21prescriber,
- 7:22especially the diagnosis for that therapy.
- 7:25Have they tried and failed therapies? Are they
- 7:28on concurrent therapies? And then as well as
- 7:30progress on therapy questions.
- 7:32All those things can be automated leveraging the
- 7:35EHR data. So that that's a much improved
- 7:38process for us going back and forth to
- 7:39the prescriber to get that information or having
- 7:41the pharmacy
- 7:42intermediary.
- 7:44And again, this reduces,
- 7:45the burden we talked about earlier as well
- 7:48as improves the patient's experience.
- 7:50Mhmm.
- 7:51Yeah. Thanks, Jim.
- 7:53And I know that we've already talked a
- 7:55lot about the data capabilities within the EHR.
- 7:59What role does EHR data transparency
- 8:02play in helping payers make more informed decisions
- 8:05around specialty drug management and care coordination?
- 8:09Yeah. Again, this is from the pharmacy lens.
- 8:12But although EHR data transparency could be instrumental
- 8:15or can be instrumental in supporting care for
- 8:17specialty drug management and care coordination.
- 8:19There's still plenty of work to do for
- 8:21payers to have more access to data and
- 8:23leverage.
- 8:24In conception with the right connections, payers could
- 8:27help guide the clinical journey more proactively by
- 8:29approving care paths,
- 8:31associated therapies for those care paths at or
- 8:34before the time of prescribing versus the current
- 8:37state, which is typically retrospectively
- 8:39after the prescription is written.
- 8:41So it guides the prescriber through the the
- 8:44care journey,
- 8:45versus stopping stopping the process.
- 8:48Additionally, there's significant opportunity, as you mentioned, to
- 8:50leverage AI to improve the process.
- 8:52We're aware of several tech companies. They're experimenting
- 8:56with embedding AI products into the EHR.
- 8:59These products
- 9:00tend to interpret the EHR data.
- 9:03They have ingested
- 9:05payer policies, and they can essentially embed
- 9:08the clinical data into the prior auth question
- 9:11set itself,
- 9:12essentially teeing it up for the prescriber to
- 9:15to submit.
- 9:16And in future state, payers could really harness
- 9:19these AI products to capture these required data
- 9:21elements and guide guide care like I had
- 9:23mentioned earlier.
- 9:25And even if they can't guide care proactively,
- 9:28they certainly could automatically
- 9:29approve these PAs
- 9:31to improve care coordination.
- 9:34Yeah.
- 9:35And, Jim, I really appreciate the insights that
- 9:37you've shared today. It sounds like there are
- 9:39so many opportunities
- 9:40within the EHR to really streamline a lot
- 9:43of these processes and specialty pharmacy, get patients
- 9:46the the treatments that they need more efficiently.
- 9:49And I can only imagine
- 9:50down the line the outcomes that could produce,
- 9:52in terms of care outcomes
- 9:54and costs. So thank you again so much
- 9:57for all the insights today. Before we wrap,
- 9:59is there anything that we missed or any
- 10:01other final
- 10:07cusp of of really
- 10:09connecting the dots on EHR connectivity across the
- 10:12industry. There's a lot of stumbling blocks to
- 10:13them. There's certainly some
- 10:15competitive strategies that are out there. But, ultimately,
- 10:19the the more that we can connect data
- 10:21to the pharmacy,
- 10:22to the health plan,
- 10:24you you you can really improve the clinical
- 10:26journey for our patients and prescribers. So,
- 10:29really excited about where some of this stuff
- 10:31goes including,
- 10:32as we talked about earlier, where AI will
- 10:34take us in the future.
- 10:36Yeah. Thanks, Jim. Really sounds like connectivity is
- 10:39key here.
- 10:40So thank you again for the time that
- 10:42you spent with us today and for all
- 10:44of your insights. Really appreciate it. Thanks very
- 10:46much.
- 10:47And we'd also like to thank our podcast
- 10:49sponsor for today, Accredo Specialty Pharmacy. Accredo is
- 10:53a specialty pharmacy that serves patients with complex
- 10:55and chronic health conditions,
- 10:57including cancer, hepatitis c, HIV, bleeding disorders, and
- 11:01multiple sclerosis.
- 11:03Accredo understands the complexity of these conditions and
- 11:06treatments, and their specialty trained pharmacists and nurses
- 11:09are available to provide personalized care to patients.
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