Latest / DEEP INSIGHT / Why France is allowing terminally ill people to end their life
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Dying on your own terms. France has just approved the
- 0:04Speaker 1: law that will give terminally ill patients the right to die.
- 0:08Speaker 1: For my teen's husband, Philippe, this change comes too late.
- 0:11Speaker 1: After years of illness, she arranged for him to be
- 0:14Speaker 1: euthanized in Belgium.
- 0:17Speaker 2: When I was certain that it would work, I told
- 0:20Speaker 2: my husband. He was incredibly relieved. This is a law
- 0:32Speaker 2: that will make it easier to kill another person simply
- 0:37Speaker 2: for reasons of convenience.
- 0:40Speaker 1: So will this new law bring people more freedom at
- 0:42Speaker 1: the end of life or does it carry too many risks.
- 0:52Speaker 1: We are in Brittany, France, in the small town of Lenon.
- 0:57Speaker 1: Mateen still lives in the house she and Philippe brought
- 1:00Speaker 1: for their retirement. Today she lives here alone, surrounded by
- 1:04Speaker 1: pictures that remind her of the man she was with
- 1:07Speaker 1: for more than fifty years. In March, Philip ended his life.
- 1:12Speaker 2: When it does to me to look at this picture,
- 1:15Speaker 2: it breaks my heart because this is the man I
- 1:18Speaker 2: have always loved in how I remember him exactly like this,
- 1:22Speaker 2: him with his dogs going on walks in the forest.
- 1:25Speaker 2: It touches me deeply and I will never forget.
- 1:36Speaker 1: In twenty fifteen, Philip was diagnosed with brain cancer at
- 1:39Speaker 1: the age of fifty nine. Martine, who had known him
- 1:42Speaker 1: as an active and sporty man, saw his condition deterior
- 1:46Speaker 1: rate year after year. Eventually he depended on Martin and
- 1:50Speaker 1: several nurses to get through the day.
- 1:57Speaker 2: The day he realized that he would never walk again,
- 1:59Speaker 2: he told told me he did not want to continue
- 2:01Speaker 2: like this. I want to commit suicide. I want to die,
- 2:04Speaker 2: he said. We did not have a gun at home,
- 2:07Speaker 2: but if we had, I would have given it to him.
- 2:10Speaker 1: With no legal option in France, Martine began looking across
- 2:13Speaker 1: the border. After a long search, she found an organization
- 2:17Speaker 1: which helps foreign patients request euthanasia in Belgium. She described
- 2:21Speaker 1: Philip's condition. Not long after the call came.
- 2:27Speaker 2: Regarding your husband. There is no problem. They told me
- 2:31Speaker 2: he can come to Belgium. So when I was certain
- 2:34Speaker 2: of that, I told my husband. He was incredibly relieved
- 2:40Speaker 2: and he thanked me.
- 2:46Speaker 1: What has come too late for Philip may now become
- 2:49Speaker 1: possible for others in France. Here in Paris, after months
- 2:53Speaker 1: of political battle, the National Assembly has passed a law
- 2:56Speaker 1: on what is called aid in dying, but lawmakers made
- 2:59Speaker 1: sure access is tightly restricted. Only French adults with an
- 3:04Speaker 1: incurable illness at an advanced or terminal stage are covered
- 3:07Speaker 1: by the law. They must suffer unbearable pain and be
- 3:10Speaker 1: able to express a free and informed wish to die.
- 3:14Speaker 1: In most cases, patients would take the lethal substance themselves.
- 3:18Speaker 1: A doctor can administer it if the patient is too
- 3:21Speaker 1: weak to do so. In France, opinion polls suggest broad
- 3:25Speaker 1: public support for a sister dying. Many people see the
- 3:27Speaker 1: new law as a matter of dignity and choice.
- 3:31Speaker 2: I'm in favor because we have experienced this in our family.
- 3:35Speaker 2: Someone was terminally ill and suffered greatly.
- 3:38Speaker 3: Everyone should be able to decide when they want to die.
- 3:41Speaker 3: Of course, there need to be safeguards and strict conditions.
- 3:44Speaker 3: It cannot be done carelessly.
- 3:48Speaker 1: Others are against the law for religious reasons.
- 3:53Speaker 2: Life is a gift, we should not take it away.
- 3:56Speaker 2: That's why for me, euthanasia is something very serious. It
- 4:00Speaker 2: may start quietly, but I see it as the beginning
- 4:02Speaker 2: of a path towards killing.
- 4:05Speaker 1: For opponents like Lilli Giganorus and Nicoladobridge, the debate goes
- 4:09Speaker 1: beyond individual freedom. They say it is about the way
- 4:12Speaker 1: society treats people. Who are ill, old or disabled, and
- 4:16Speaker 1: whether some lives are seen as worthless.
- 4:21Speaker 2: It is this idea that becoming disabled means decline, and
- 4:24Speaker 2: that suicide somehow becomes the logical solution. As a disabled person,
- 4:28Speaker 2: I've had strangers in the street tell me that I
- 4:30Speaker 2: should kill myself. That is not just an isolated insult.
- 4:34Speaker 2: It reflects a deeply rooted system of oppression.
- 4:40Speaker 1: They say, France should, above all, make sure that people
- 4:43Speaker 1: have the palliative care they.
- 4:44Speaker 3: Need before fighting for a right to euthanasia. We should
- 4:50Speaker 3: first fight to make sure every patient has access to
- 4:53Speaker 3: care and to every form of support that can help
- 4:56Speaker 3: them cope with the shock of illness.
- 5:02Speaker 1: They are also worried about the wording of the law.
- 5:04Speaker 1: They argue it applies not only to people who are
- 5:07Speaker 1: terminally ill, but also to those at an advanced stage
- 5:10Speaker 1: of the illness.
- 5:12Speaker 3: The term advanced stage could even include people who are
- 5:16Speaker 3: not yet facing death.
- 5:21Speaker 1: Professor Francois Damas works at the Citadel Hospital in Liege, Belgium.
- 5:26Speaker 1: He has helped hundreds of patients access euthanasia, including people
- 5:30Speaker 1: from France. Martin's husband Philippe, was one of them.
- 5:35Speaker 3: The law is a step in the right direction. It
- 5:38Speaker 3: gives patients more freedom to choose how they die when
- 5:41Speaker 3: they are facing a serious illness that has become incurable.
- 5:45Speaker 3: That for me is the biggest progress. We are talking
- 5:48Speaker 3: about the end of life, we are talking about death.
- 5:52Speaker 3: These laws have made that conversation possible.
- 5:56Speaker 1: He hopes that now French patients won't have to cross
- 5:59Speaker 1: the board order to Belgium, and he reject the idea
- 6:02Speaker 1: that legalizing his sister dying will automatically lead to abuse.
- 6:07Speaker 3: Thinking that there is an inevitable slippery slope where euthanasia
- 6:11Speaker 3: becomes normalized and carried out carelessly. That is simply not true,
- 6:16Speaker 3: because the decision belongs to the patients, surrounded by their family.
- 6:20Speaker 3: That is a real barrier and there are major safeguards.
- 6:29Speaker 1: Martine and her family want to keep the memories of
- 6:32Speaker 1: Philippe alive, thankful for the time they had right up
- 6:36Speaker 1: to the very last moment together in the hospital room
- 6:39Speaker 1: in Belgium.
- 6:45Speaker 2: We should not judge how other people face suffering at
- 6:47Speaker 2: the end of life. Some people want to keep going
- 6:50Speaker 2: until the end, even through extremely painful experiences. I have
- 6:54Speaker 2: deep respect for that, But others cannot bear that suffering.
- 6:58Speaker 2: They should have the right to choose when to go.
- 7:03Speaker 1: Martine says helping Philippe was one of the hardest things
- 7:07Speaker 1: she's ever lived through, but she believes he should not
- 7:11Speaker 1: have had to leave his own country to make that choice.