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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, and welcome to JFK Book Reviews, a
- 0:03Speaker 1: division of the Lone Guming Podcast. I'm Rob Clark, that's
- 0:08Speaker 1: Joe Brilly.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Damn, I don't even know where to look.
- 0:13Speaker 1: And today we're gonna be reviewing the book JFK First
- 0:19Speaker 1: Day Evidence by Gary Savage. Store it away for thirty
- 0:25Speaker 1: years in an old briefcase, new evidence is now revealed
- 0:29Speaker 1: by former Dallas Please Crime Lab detective our W. Rusty
- 0:32Speaker 1: Livingston and Joe this bad boy. It's not too thick.
- 0:42Speaker 2: It's what we called slim thick.
- 0:44Speaker 3: It's a medium.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Yeah, medium, it's deceptively thick thick as we'll find out
- 0:50Speaker 1: what the page count. But yeah, JFK First Day Evidence
- 0:55Speaker 1: by Gary Savage. Joe, tell us a little bit about
- 0:59Speaker 1: this book, Hi.
- 1:00Speaker 3: Sure well. It was published in January of nineteen ninety
- 1:05Speaker 3: three by author Gary Savage, who was the nephew of mister.
- 1:16Speaker 2: R. W.
- 1:17Speaker 3: Quote Rusty Livingston, one of the members of the DPD
- 1:23Speaker 3: Crime Lab in nineteen sixty three. It was published by
- 1:30Speaker 3: self published, wrote edited through his small publishing company, the
- 1:36Speaker 3: shop Chappe Press. And I say Choppe because there are
- 1:40Speaker 3: two pieces in that from Monroe Louisiana, and the book
- 1:44Speaker 3: is essentially a presentation and commentary on Livington's private archive, which,
- 1:50Speaker 3: as you mentioned, was in a briefcase for thirty years.
- 1:54Speaker 2: Right.
- 1:57Speaker 3: You can get it on Amazon used at for as
- 2:03Speaker 3: low as thirteen dollars and nine cents. It goes up
- 2:08Speaker 3: from there. You could get it at a similar price
- 2:11Speaker 3: from aid Books for about seventeen dollars used. There are
- 2:17Speaker 3: two new copies for over one hundred dollars one hundred
- 2:20Speaker 3: and four dollars. Specifically, it's not available via Kindle. As
- 2:27Speaker 3: far as I could tell, there are twelve chapters total.
- 2:30Speaker 3: There is a preface, acknowledgments section, a prologue, and also
- 2:36Speaker 3: on introduction before chapter one, which starts at around page thirty,
- 2:42Speaker 3: and after there's an epilogue, appendix, and a section called
- 2:46Speaker 3: work sited, as well as a bibliography after each chapter.
- 2:52Speaker 3: It's footnoted and Gary Savage obviously the nephew of our
- 3:00Speaker 3: w Rusty Livingston, not a professional historian or a journalist,
- 3:04Speaker 3: private citizen with a strong personal interest in the Kennedy assassination,
- 3:12Speaker 3: with kind of a focus on defending the reputation of
- 3:18Speaker 3: his uncle and the DPD. And you know it definitely.
- 3:26Speaker 3: Rob has a strong Loane nut Lean.
- 3:36Speaker 2: Kind of that. It does, Joe.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Uh uh. You know, I've had this book for a
- 3:45Speaker 1: while and I wanted to get it because there was
- 3:52Speaker 1: some hooplah surrounding this book, you know, as far as
- 3:57Speaker 1: being outed as new evidence right where.
- 4:03Speaker 3: We've seen that before.
- 4:05Speaker 1: Yeah, this might be. Hold on, let me guessed off,
- 4:09Speaker 1: this might be Jefferson Morley's first nothing burger ever made
- 4:16Speaker 1: with two buns and a piece of meat. Of course,
- 4:21Speaker 1: I say that jokingly, but kind of not allegedly.
- 4:26Speaker 2: Allegedly.
- 4:27Speaker 1: Now right here on the back of the book, folks,
- 4:30Speaker 1: it tells you this is not a conspiracy book, Joe,
- 4:34Speaker 1: It's not. It is a valuable reference tool, sir. And
- 4:40Speaker 1: it says now, there is a lot of photographs in
- 4:44Speaker 1: this book, over one hundred and forty original photographs. Not
- 4:51Speaker 1: copies from the Warrant Commission, not copies at NARA, not
- 4:55Speaker 1: FBI copies.
- 4:57Speaker 2: These are.
- 5:00Speaker 1: Mostly photos of Oswald, evidence photos, mug shots, morg photos,
- 5:11Speaker 1: I mean, you name it.
- 5:13Speaker 3: Yeah, I think some Beckley photos too.
- 5:16Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 5:16Speaker 1: Anything the DPD took pictures of this guy made himself
- 5:22Speaker 1: what he likes to call reference copies. Joe, reference copies.
- 5:29Speaker 3: I'm not sure what that means.
- 5:31Speaker 1: But yeah, well you know, he he, he hoarded a
- 5:37Speaker 1: bunch of this evidence because it does tell him here
- 5:41Speaker 1: the story of.
- 5:44Speaker 2: How the FBI.
- 5:47Speaker 1: Was coming for all their evidence, right, because it was
- 5:51Speaker 1: the Dallas Police Department that collected a lot of this
- 5:54Speaker 1: evidence first and took these pictures and found this stuff.
- 6:01Speaker 1: And the FBI, of course stepped in rather quickly after
- 6:06Speaker 1: the assassination, within it a day or two and started
- 6:10Speaker 1: demanding that they send the evidence to Washington and orchestrated that.
- 6:16Speaker 1: That is when several I should say, because mister Livingstone,
- 6:20Speaker 1: I presume, was not the only one to sock away
- 6:25Speaker 1: a little first day evidence, if you know what I'm saying.
- 6:30Speaker 1: In fact, you know, we know the story about who's
- 6:37Speaker 1: his buddy, oh Man Roscoe White, that's it, and his wife,
- 6:46Speaker 1: of course, Roscoe was dead by the time of the HSCAA,
- 6:49Speaker 1: but she came forward with another pose of the backyard
- 6:52Speaker 1: photograph that had never been seen before. Well guess who
- 6:56Speaker 1: else had the same pose in his briefcase thirty years later,
- 7:02Speaker 1: old Rusty living Rusty. Yeah, so this was a photo
- 7:11Speaker 1: but that they never turned over to the to the FBI.
- 7:14Speaker 1: Or the Warrant Commission they kept an in house in
- 7:17Speaker 1: their own files. They also tout in here see a
- 7:25Speaker 1: Dallas police photograph of the Minox spy camera that the
- 7:28Speaker 1: FBI tried to make disappear. Now again, I say that's
- 7:34Speaker 1: why I said this is kind of a Loan nut
- 7:37Speaker 1: Lean book, because there are some things in here that
- 7:40Speaker 1: they put, you know, that kind.
- 7:44Speaker 2: Of make you hmm okay.
- 7:48Speaker 1: They even addressed the whole Marguerite Oswald. There was another
- 7:51Speaker 1: backyard photograph pose supposedly of him holding the rifle above
- 7:55Speaker 1: his head that him that her and Marina burned when
- 8:00Speaker 1: they when they found out that Lee Harvey Oswald had
- 8:03Speaker 1: been arrested, and the negatives for that one never found either.
- 8:10Speaker 1: He has included in this book the actual transcripts, actual
- 8:14Speaker 1: transcripts allegedly from the Dick de Belt recordings of the
- 8:18Speaker 1: Dallas Police Channels one and two show and it details
- 8:28Speaker 1: in here. How I mean they really are? They really
- 8:35Speaker 1: really praise Lieutenant Carl Day for his prowess as an investigator.
- 8:47Speaker 1: Yet you know, after they sent the rifle off to
- 8:51Speaker 1: the FBI, the FBI said, well, we can't find any
- 8:54Speaker 1: fingerprints on this rifle. You know, but allegedly the story
- 9:00Speaker 1: is in the book. They found fingerprints on the trigger
- 9:05Speaker 1: housing of the rifle that they dusted, but they never
- 9:12Speaker 1: lifted them because the FBI took the rifle a little
- 9:16Speaker 1: too fast for him. They were told to hand it over.
- 9:19Speaker 1: He wasn't done doing what he's doing. But the photographs
- 9:22Speaker 1: are in the book of this trigger housing, and yeah,
- 9:25Speaker 1: you can see latent fingerprints on it. Okay, but you
- 9:31Speaker 1: have to realize, I don't know how many people touch
- 9:35Speaker 1: this rifle without wearing gloves. I mean, they're up on
- 9:42Speaker 1: the sixth floor examining it in the Eliah film, you know,
- 9:45Speaker 1: they're passing around looking at it, trying to read it.
- 9:48Speaker 1: You know, you see Fritz carrying it at some point.
- 9:50Speaker 1: You see Carl Day walking around with it, you know,
- 9:54Speaker 1: outside the school book depository and in the police headquarters
- 9:58Speaker 1: holding it above his head. So what they're doing is
- 10:03Speaker 1: he is comparing a photograph of a fingerprint to Oswald's
- 10:13Speaker 1: fingerprint card that they got from him.
- 10:16Speaker 2: After he was dead.
- 10:20Speaker 1: So there's a picture in the book of Oswald and
- 10:23Speaker 1: the Morgue, and Livingstone tells the story how they went
- 10:27Speaker 1: there and they used inkless fingerprint cards and rolled his
- 10:34Speaker 1: hands and got printed ink fingerprint cards to compare to. So,
- 10:46Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how much I trust the evidence. Now,
- 10:50Speaker 1: what I will say that I like about this book, Joe,
- 10:54Speaker 1: is that you know how when you open a book
- 10:59Speaker 1: and pages feel like paper, you know, paper pages right, right,
- 11:04Speaker 1: and then you get to the middle of the book
- 11:06Speaker 1: and then maybe there's a glossy feeling section where all
- 11:09Speaker 1: the photos are.
- 11:10Speaker 3: Yeah, I know exactly what you mean.
- 11:12Speaker 1: Okay, I'm glad I'm relating that eloquently. Well, this entire
- 11:17Speaker 1: book is printed on that glossy feeling paper because there's
- 11:23Speaker 1: so many photographs in it, every page feels like that,
- 11:28Speaker 1: and that may be why it's possibly so uh deceivingly
- 11:33Speaker 1: lim thick, if you will. But they're all glossy, and
- 11:36Speaker 1: you know, it makes for a nice, a nice feel.
- 11:39Speaker 2: It's a book, you know.
- 11:42Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I said, it's glossy reflects lightwell, so it's
- 11:46Speaker 1: very easy to read.
- 11:49Speaker 3: That fact that factors in the rating.
- 11:53Speaker 2: Quality. Right. Yeah, there's other things in here.
- 11:57Speaker 1: I talked about the palm print allegedly found, he says,
- 12:01Speaker 1: and I'll quote this here from the book. Lieutenant Day
- 12:04Speaker 1: told us that after he had photographed the trigger housing
- 12:07Speaker 1: prints and been stopped by Captain Doty. He continued work
- 12:11Speaker 1: on the rifle under the order of Captain Fritz, and
- 12:14Speaker 1: it was at that time he noticed a print sticking
- 12:17Speaker 1: out from the barrel. He said it was obvious that
- 12:21Speaker 1: part of it was under the wooden stock, so he
- 12:23Speaker 1: took the stock off and finished dusting the barrel. He
- 12:28Speaker 1: said he could tell it was part of a palm print,
- 12:30Speaker 1: so he proceeded with a lift. He told Rusty and
- 12:34Speaker 1: me that he could tell it wasn't put there recently
- 12:36Speaker 1: by the way it took the fingerprint powder. He said,
- 12:39Speaker 1: what makes a print of this sort is a lack
- 12:41Speaker 1: of moisture, and this print had dried out, so he
- 12:44Speaker 1: said he took a small camel hair brush, dipped it
- 12:47Speaker 1: in fingerprint powder, and lightly brushed it. He then placed
- 12:50Speaker 1: a strip of two inch scotch tape over the developed
- 12:52Speaker 1: print and rubbed it down, before finally lifting the tape
- 12:56Speaker 1: containing the print off and placed it on a card.
- 13:00Speaker 1: He said he then compared the lyft to Oswald's palm
- 13:02Speaker 1: print card, and he was certain that.
- 13:03Speaker 2: It was Oswald's.
- 13:05Speaker 1: He also said that after the lift, he could still
- 13:07Speaker 1: see an impression of the palm print left on the barrel.
- 13:11Speaker 1: So again, in order for this palm print to be
- 13:13Speaker 1: on this barrel, it had to be put on there
- 13:16Speaker 1: while the gun was disassembled, because the stock covered it,
- 13:23Speaker 1: and it was old.
- 13:25Speaker 2: Okay.
- 13:27Speaker 1: And so you have allegedly here a palm print, an
- 13:31Speaker 1: old one that they compared visually, I'm assuming to Oswald's
- 13:39Speaker 1: fingerprint card. Now they did Joe pull a Joan Mellon
- 13:44Speaker 1: with this book, right, They went and retained the services
- 13:53Speaker 1: of a Jerry Powderill, who is an expert fingerprint examiner
- 14:03Speaker 1: with the City of West Monroe, Louisiana.
- 14:07Speaker 3: Powder L.
- 14:09Speaker 1: You're gonna make me say that again, pow drill.
- 14:13Speaker 2: Okay, got it? P ow d r I l l Okay.
- 14:17Speaker 3: It sounded like an alien's for a.
- 14:19Speaker 1: Second, Jerry L. Pow drill Okay, okay. And here was
- 14:25Speaker 1: his expert conclusion.
- 14:29Speaker 2: Okay.
- 14:30Speaker 1: He says, in October ninety one, you approached me with
- 14:33Speaker 1: a request to compare Layton fingerprints to known ink prints.
- 14:36Speaker 1: At that time, I received from you the following items.
- 14:39Speaker 1: And he goes through in states what he got from him,
- 14:41Speaker 1: you know, as far as the photographs and the fingerprints
- 14:45Speaker 1: card and all that stuff, he says, upon examination of
- 14:48Speaker 1: the above listed items, the inkless card and the known
- 14:51Speaker 1: ink impressions on quote JFK Exhibit F four hundred were
- 14:56Speaker 1: compared to the unknown partial Laytons shown in the four
- 15:00Speaker 1: black and white photographs, and this was.
- 15:05Speaker 2: The trigger.
- 15:06Speaker 1: Housing examination revealed that the right middle finger of Lee
- 15:11Speaker 1: Harvey Oswald and partial Layton scene in one of the
- 15:14Speaker 1: black and white photos have the following similarities. Both were
- 15:19Speaker 1: ulner loops, which is the type of fingerprint pattern. Both
- 15:24Speaker 1: have a ridge count of fifteen or sixteen friction ridge
- 15:28Speaker 1: count from delta to core. Three points of identity in
- 15:35Speaker 1: the photographs matched three points in the known ink cards.
- 15:39Speaker 1: Three other points of identity in the photograph Layton had
- 15:43Speaker 1: very similar characteristics as in the known ink cards, but
- 15:47Speaker 1: positive points of identity cannot be made. So in conclusion,
- 15:53Speaker 1: Joe above, looking at the above mentioned photos and ink
- 15:58Speaker 1: cards for countless hours, I can say that sufficient evidence
- 16:02Speaker 1: does not exist to conclude that the Layton print is
- 16:06Speaker 1: in fact that of Lee Harvey Oswald. However, there are
- 16:10Speaker 1: enough similarities to suggest that it is possible that they
- 16:14Speaker 1: are one of the same. So again, maybe I mean
- 16:22Speaker 1: not the first nothing Burger in the case, of course,
- 16:25Speaker 1: but it's a nothing burger. Nonetheless, Now why they would
- 16:30Speaker 1: publish this in their book, I mean, I guess it's honest,
- 16:33Speaker 1: honest publishing. I guess even though you don't have something
- 16:37Speaker 1: that worked out too good for you. You know, sometimes
- 16:41Speaker 1: you swing and you hit a home run, Joe, and
- 16:43Speaker 1: sometimes it's a swinging to miss right.
- 16:47Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
- 16:50Speaker 1: But you know, there's a lot of photographs that are
- 16:54Speaker 1: in here that, like I said, are rarely seen. He
- 17:02Speaker 1: I mean, they pretty much say that Oswald had a
- 17:04Speaker 1: minox camera. You know, you can see it right in
- 17:07Speaker 1: the evidence photo as clear as they Then you talk
- 17:11Speaker 1: about a map that was drawn by the Dallas Crime
- 17:16Speaker 1: Lab detective Studebaker of the layout of the sixth floor
- 17:19Speaker 1: crime scene, and it was never turned over to the
- 17:24Speaker 1: Warrant Commission, And he had a copy of that, and
- 17:30Speaker 1: it was drawn on graph paper, interestingly enough, and it
- 17:35Speaker 1: details the exact location of bag shells rifle as found
- 17:43Speaker 1: on the sixth floor.
- 17:45Speaker 2: But it's very very small.
- 17:51Speaker 1: It tells you where the pomb prints were, where the
- 17:54Speaker 1: windows were, where the rifle was, just you know, some
- 17:57Speaker 1: things that you've probably never seen before, because we've all
- 18:01Speaker 1: seen the the Warren Commission, FBI recon reconstruction or crime
- 18:08Speaker 1: scene photos if you will, of the school book depository
- 18:11Speaker 1: that are in the Warren Commission exhibits. But you know what,
- 18:16Speaker 1: the Dallas police took their own photos of the sixth
- 18:19Speaker 1: floor that day, and they took a shitload of them,
- 18:23Speaker 1: and there is a lot of them in this book
- 18:27Speaker 1: that I've never seen before. So for that alone, you know,
- 18:33Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not mad at this book. You know,
- 18:37Speaker 1: I'm not mad at it at all. It does have
- 18:40Speaker 1: a little bit of value.
- 18:41Speaker 2: In that sense.
- 18:44Speaker 1: I mean, some of these photos are crazy, Joe like,
- 18:48Speaker 1: like I've never seen it before, So in that sense,
- 18:53Speaker 1: it's good.
- 18:55Speaker 2: There's a lot of photos that that he took book.
- 19:01Speaker 1: From Lee Harvey Oswald's possessions that are probably very rarely seeing,
- 19:08Speaker 1: some stuff that when he was in Russia hanging out
- 19:10Speaker 1: with friends, and all kinds of stuff I've never seen before.
- 19:16Speaker 1: They may be in the Warran commissioned exhibit somewhere, but
- 19:18Speaker 1: you might have.
- 19:19Speaker 2: To dig for him.
- 19:19Speaker 1: But all in all, Joe, I mean, that's that's about it.
- 19:24Speaker 1: I'm not mad at it. But if you could, dude,
- 19:30Speaker 1: give us your your impressions of the book.
- 19:34Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, I think you summed it
- 19:38Speaker 3: up really nicely. There there is some benefit to this
- 19:42Speaker 3: book almost. It makes me think of our review of
- 19:47Speaker 3: Robert Oswalt's book also alone Nutterer, but did have some
- 19:53Speaker 3: interesting information on Oswalt and their childhood and stuff like that.
- 19:57Speaker 3: And I don't know how many of the hundred plus
- 20:00Speaker 3: pictures were unreleased at that point in nineteen ninety three.
- 20:07Speaker 3: I would guess a few of them are not widely circulated.
- 20:12Speaker 3: Obviously lone not lean. I obviously don't agree with a
- 20:20Speaker 3: lot of it, but like you mentioned, there are some
- 20:23Speaker 3: interesting little tidbits. So based on the quality of the
- 20:29Speaker 3: book right of good quality, and based on the fact
- 20:35Speaker 3: that a lot of things seem to be permanently what
- 20:39Speaker 3: do they call it memory hold in the internet, right
- 20:42Speaker 3: pictures seem to disappear. If you could get this book
- 20:47Speaker 3: for fifteen bucks, I'd say just for the photos, it's
- 20:54Speaker 3: not horrible. So based on that, I think I'm just
- 21:00Speaker 3: gonna give it. And I've been going between a four
- 21:10Speaker 3: and a five, but based on your description of its quality,
- 21:16Speaker 3: I think I'm going to lean higher and just give
- 21:18Speaker 3: it a five out of ten. Worth it alone and
- 21:21Speaker 3: considering the time, nineteen ninety three, right, AARB is really
- 21:28Speaker 3: just getting started. I think i'll give it a five
- 21:33Speaker 3: out of ten. Five guns up.
- 21:37Speaker 2: Thank you, Joe. How about you?
- 21:39Speaker 1: Well, you make a good point there about the aar RB.
- 21:44Speaker 1: And I don't know if they went after this guy,
- 21:48Speaker 1: Rusty Livingston's files. I don't know that they could since
- 21:53Speaker 1: it was a Dallas Police department thing and not federal
- 21:59Speaker 1: government type of thing. But you know that was part
- 22:02Speaker 1: of what the ar a ARB was doing.
- 22:07Speaker 3: I get it wrong, like half the time.
- 22:08Speaker 2: I know a r RB, Yeah, RB, I.
- 22:13Speaker 3: Say a r RB all the time.
- 22:16Speaker 2: It is RB. I always say a RB.
- 22:19Speaker 3: Well I got it wrong.
- 22:21Speaker 1: Records Review Board a r r B is right. So
- 22:28Speaker 1: but yeah, they were tasked with compiling and collecting any
- 22:35Speaker 1: documents related to JFK. They were out there that maybe
- 22:38Speaker 1: we didn't have. And you know, when guys like this
- 22:42Speaker 1: come forward with a briefcase full of shit or suitcase
- 22:46Speaker 1: full of shit that they've been sitting on for thirty years,
- 22:49Speaker 1: you think they might would have asked for it. I
- 22:52Speaker 1: don't know if they did.
- 22:55Speaker 2: But when you have.
- 22:57Speaker 1: Original a ridge, no photographs or copies of original photographs,
- 23:06Speaker 1: you know, in good shape. I mean, that's kind of
- 23:08Speaker 1: invaluable stuff. And I don't know whatever happened to this
- 23:11Speaker 1: guy's collection or what happened to it or anything like that.
- 23:15Speaker 1: I have no idea. Apparently this guy wrote wrote one
- 23:19Speaker 1: book and that was that.
- 23:20Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think he died in twenty sixteen.
- 23:24Speaker 2: Who's savage.
- 23:25Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure Rusty Livingston died way before that.
- 23:29Speaker 1: But yeah, again, it's it's not an overly loane nut
- 23:36Speaker 1: book where it like a Posner or a Boogliosi, where
- 23:39Speaker 1: they keep shoving shit down your throat, you.
- 23:42Speaker 2: Know, page after page after page. This is not like that.
- 23:45Speaker 1: They admit their mistakes. They give it to you honest.
- 23:48Speaker 1: If it didn't match, they it didn't match, you know.
- 23:54Speaker 1: And there is there is some value in this book
- 23:56Speaker 1: with with the photos and the evidence, because you have
- 23:59Speaker 1: to remember, you know, the DPD collected at all first,
- 24:03Speaker 1: and they make that case in here, the fact that
- 24:06Speaker 1: they were very proud of. He feels like the Dallas
- 24:09Speaker 1: Police Department did an excellent job in collecting the evidence
- 24:12Speaker 1: and analyzing the evidence before the FBI came in and
- 24:14Speaker 1: kind of said here, give me that shit.
- 24:16Speaker 2: Right, So With that.
- 24:20Speaker 1: Being said, for this book's value, I'm going to give
- 24:27Speaker 1: it a solid six Joe six guns up.
- 24:38Speaker 3: That's respectable. I agree it has It has has value,
- 24:43Speaker 3: especially when you consider, which we always do in our ratings,
- 24:47Speaker 3: when it was published, right.
- 24:50Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is thirty years after the assassination,
- 24:53Speaker 1: This was over thirty years ago from today.
- 24:57Speaker 2: Does it hold up? I mean it is what it is.
- 25:02Speaker 1: Loan nutters love to pull it out and say, well,
- 25:04Speaker 1: back in this day, in this book, you know, they
- 25:06Speaker 1: said they found Layton Oswald's Laton fingerprints, but I read
- 25:10Speaker 1: you the letter from mister Powderill who says they cannot
- 25:17Speaker 1: conclusively state that those prints came from Oswald. You're comparing
- 25:21Speaker 1: a photo of fingerprints with a fingerprint card from a
- 25:25Speaker 1: dead man.
- 25:26Speaker 2: So interesting.
- 25:33Speaker 3: They love to use that wording right, it could most
- 25:36Speaker 3: likely be or could possibly be right. They love to
- 25:39Speaker 3: do that and then and then harp on that right
- 25:43Speaker 3: as as fact.
- 25:44Speaker 1: That's one of their favorite things to do. Yes, yes,
- 25:48Speaker 1: well that's it for this book. JFK First Day Evidence
- 25:51Speaker 1: by Gary Savage. And if you enjoyed that book review,
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- 27:12Speaker 2: Appreciate it.
- 27:12Speaker 1: Until next time, folks, I'm Rob Clark, that's Joe Borelli
- 27:18Speaker 1: and we are out peace.
- 27:21Speaker 3: Thank you for one