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Calcio Carousel Matchday 34 - Inter Scudetto Celebrations & Juve-Milan Draw - Ep_ 224 · The Calcio Guys

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  It was the Culture Guy's Derby Weekend between Derby Dell, Johnye and Derby Bell
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  Nicholas E. Drano. We haven't we don't have a name for that yet.
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  Uh uh. It was let's talk about Johnny Drano and Nicholas plus uh
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  some dog sounds from Johnny's house. But guys, how you doing. I'm
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  bad. I'm bad. You guys can't complain. I'm not gonna use it
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  a dog. We have to get Toby on. Hold on, let me
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  see. The thing is, I can't breaking to my room because my cats
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  in the room. It's just gonna start hissing and attacking him. We don't
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  need any more animal sounds in this on the podcast. It could be our
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  first animal guest though. Oh no, we've we've had cats on. Jenny's
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  brought his cats on. There you go. Nebia is here, Nebia is
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  here? Uh yeah, yeah, said yeah Derby Delle Jannini. Uh Appoly
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  Roma, perfect result for you, Johnny. You know, people always say
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  who do you cheer for? They always ask who do you cheer for?
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  W napolining Roma player. You go to to perfect result, back and forth
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  game de Balla and the pen OLDI Vera and then all see men on the
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  pen to give Napoli Lee and Ibraham right at the n eighth minute it was
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  on a corner. No, yeah, that the time goal. You know,
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  even if you look at the stats, I mean Napoli did dominate and
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  shots signed to four, but possession forty fifty two in favorite roma. But
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  I don't know if you had a chance to watch it, Johnny, but
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  this was your derby, so you could take it from both sides. Yeah,
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  no, I I did have a chance to watch it. I was
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  doing work while I was watching it, And honestly speaking, I love how
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  you said it's a perfect sulf for both sides when it's actually not. Both
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  sides would have preferred to have the w at that point. You wanted to
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  walk away with a win and get those three points, especially for the race
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  Phiedoma trying to squeeze back into the top four even though the top five is
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  considered part of the Champions League now and Napoli trying to get into a European
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  spot. You know, that's that's very key for them to get into some
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  kind of European competition next year. So for either team, it wasn't an
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  ideal result. Sure you get a point, but like Napolis tied with Fiorantina,
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  but Ifena's got a game in hand, Roma now there are four points
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  behind Bologna for the top four spots. It was tough this game. It
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  felt like, you know, it was it was Roma's to steal versus Napolie
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  to to lose. Even though possession wise it was still like it was somewhat.
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  It was somewhat even expected goals for Monopoly was like like really high thing.
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  It was like near three, you know, like uh and and Roma
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  was like one and a half, like it was low. It was.
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  It wasn't a game that you know, like Napolily didn't finish on their chances.
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  Vi Laar came out big for Roma, which was very key for them
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  because he kept them in there. I think, honestly speaking, like the
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  penalty calls for both sides were valid in my eyes. The Nato Sanchez is
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  one was lazy, you know, like it was it was. It was,
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  it was. It was a silly error and it kind of it goes
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  to show that his minutes are limited because because of decisions like that, which
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  is unfortunate because Sanchez has got a lot of potential, a lot of talent,
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  but he's just pissing it away. Tommy coming back is great and getting
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  a goal for his motivation, especially after being out for a long time,
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  you know, like finally getting back into form, getting to the rhythm of
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  things. Finding the back of that against Snopoly two, which is big.
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  It was off a corner, very very late late goal, like or like
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  how it's been for Roma recently under dead Ossie. They always need to find
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  a way to score it towards the end of the game, as Man would
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  like, you know, breaking that penalty, Kurt breaking the penalty curse,
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  but this time on the positive side of the penalty versus a negative side.
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  He's usually on the bad end of those. And the Olive Aer goal was
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  kind of funny to see. I'm not gonna lie that little like we into
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  the back of the head. You take those, you take those like VLR
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  pinched on that. But he wasn't expecting that to take a deflection. For
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  then, who deflected off I don't think it's inflected off my genie, trying
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  to remember who reflected off of, but either way, just ended up in
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  the back of that Ball's goal is a very nice one. No, I'm
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  sorry, was the penalty When I say he took the penalty was it was
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  Timmy's goal that was a nice one. I'm thinking of the Battles goal and
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  the game before. That's why I'm mixing up my the one that with the
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  curl that he had. No it is was a PK overall a game that
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  Roma knew that their only chances to get them on the counter, and that's
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  how they got there. That's how they got the probably goal and the corner
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  goal. Napoli had to finish those chances. They had to finish those chances,
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  and they couldn't and that's why this game ended up as a draw.
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  They still scored too, which is still really great, but it could have
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  been so much more. Zambisa had a great run in that he just like
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  whiffed on uh Austin mean took about a scalia like there was a great opportunity
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  there. Never then we find the back of the met one of those games
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  where the draw is not ideal for either team, you know, for you
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  know, even for like a fan of both teams. You know, I
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  was like, okay, yeah, it's a draw. Cool, But when
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  he analyze it from both sides of the point. You're like, yeah,
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  draw's not great. It's it's not so it's uh, it's tough. Now,
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  Roma's got four games left in the season to you know, like not
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  like to justify a top fourth spot instead of saying that, oh, you
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  guys only got champions because of the fifth lee fifth position spot, and especially
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  with Atalanta like two points behind them, that's something that with a game in
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  hand, that's something to consider because you could potentially find yourself outside of that
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  Champions League spot because of like, you know, recent performance. But you
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  know, under de Lassie, it's We've only had I think only like two
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  losses so far, so it's not the worst. There's another squeak noise in
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  the background by by Toby the Dog Nopoly still shaky form. It's frustrations.
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  News of Conte coming to the team, Uh seems pretty crazy to me.
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  I'm not gonna believe even if even though I was the one that reported it,
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  I'm not gonna believe it until they actually put like a photo of him
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  pen to paper because for me, like him appearance appearing at the Stadt at
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  the Stadio the Madonna is nothing, you know, like I need to see
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  pen the paper, him being and discussing like this, him visiting the city,
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  taking photos in the city. It's just, you know, it's nothing.
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  It's I need to see that photo with the you know, the ABL
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  tweet or whatever. Yeah, So for now, I mean, try to
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  write till the end of the season with Alzona, it's uh, it's it's
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  it sucks, man. It sucks because this team is capable of doing well,
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  and every time they try to find some kind of ground underneath their feet,
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  uh, it just they just fall. They just stumble over their feet.
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  So that's the only downside to it. I think in the long run,
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  I would have preferred to see Napoli winning this game, just because I
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  want to see them in a European spot. I like neither team is competing
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  for the school that though, but I'd like to see both of them in
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  a some kind of European tournament next year. So I would have preferred a
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  Napoli victory in this one draws at least a point each, but it doesn't
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  help out either team. So that's that's all I have to say about that.
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  Yeah. I think also just being clinical, like you said, Jenny,
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  like the tail two halves, I think in the game like not,
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  we had chances in the first I believe it was the first half that they
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  should have finished and they did not. You know, uh, it becomes
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  a late drama. And you know, I honestly didn't think that goal was
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  on side. I know we all kind of thought it might have been off,
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  but it was. It was just on. And you know, credit
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  the time me for being in that position. You know, a player that
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  hasn't seen the pitch in a long time. I think he's finally on the
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  score shoet after almost I think it's almost a year, three hundred and almost
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  three sixty three hundred sixty something they US or whatever, almost a year,
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  So it was good for him. And you know, I think, you
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  know we've said time and time again on the show. You know that also
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  has this team point well and and I think it'll continue how long I don't
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  know, but for for what it is now, I think I don't know
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  what the points are because I saw there certain clubs that are you know,
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  have officially qualified for Europe, and I'm pretty sure Roma's in that mix.
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  Now. Is it going to be champions is it going to be Europa?
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  We shall see, you know, but I think they're right there. They're
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  in that fifth spot, you know, if they if they reached Bologna or
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  not that I don't know, not that it doesn't matter, but I think,
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  you know, as long as they get back into Champions I think for
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  them is a big is a big bass because it's a team that hasn't seen
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  champions in a while. And uh, you know that that Champions League experience
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  for for some of these young players. You know, you guys change over
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  to a fielder. He's been saving all kines. He's been he's been really
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  a really big you know, not not a new addition, but in terms
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  of a new transfer, but you know, finally getting minutes, finally showing
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  what he's worth. I think it has been huge under the Rossi and he's
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  been saving Rome a time and time again. So to get these experiences in
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  Champions League for some of these players on this team, I think helps keeping
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  a keeping a hold of a guy like the balla, which you know currently
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  I think is Roma's price possession, I think would be huge. And you
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  know, these types of players want to play in the highest of competitions and
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  that's Champions League. So we'll see. I know, this, These last
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  four or five games are going to be very very close. We always say
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  it at the end of the season is always very tight, and said,
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  yeah, so I'm excited to see how that pans out. Uh yeah,
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  I mean, I know you kind of spoke about that, that Conte stuff,
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  But how would that make you feel, Johnny? I know you just
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  said, you know, you won't say anything until until it's official, but
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  you know, got to feed families here, guys, this is our job.
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  We got to speculate him and they're going to kill each other? Are
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  they going to make it for Christmas? Are they not? Hypothetical? Hypothetical
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  world? Conte goes to Napolis? How do you feel? I would feel
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  pretty excited about It'd be pretty cool to see Conte approven manager manage Napoli.
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  We've seen Ancelotti. The thing is, like I've seen Ancelotti managed Napoli and
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  it didn't work out super well. Like it was going well in Champions League,
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  like he was he was beating Liverpool during their greater era, right and
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  like the start of their great era, not the tail end of it,
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  and like I felt like it was getting after there. Obviously he loses the
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  room of it and things don't come together. But now he's back to real
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  winning Champions League over there, because you know, it's the environment Anapoli.
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  It's not really like it's it's you know what I'm saying. I wouldn't say
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  it's Ancelotti being a terrible manager. So I would like to see Conte at
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  the helm, no bullshit type of manager like we have with with Catuzo.
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  It'd be, it'd be, it'd be fascinating. I want to see what
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  he can do with trying to re establish that core, maybe try to convince
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  some players to stay, and if players decide to leave, well, you
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  know, establish a new one, you know, identify what players are going
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  to be part of a future core for Monopoly. He's really good at establishing
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  his system and just getting these diamonds out of like out of the dirt,
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  out of nowhere, you know. Like we've talked about it before, is
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  zero twenty sixteen run literally you know, the roster that he fielded and taking
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  Germany to penalties to you know, and if they would have been idiots,
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  they would have eliminated Germany and they have gone to the semifinals with that kind
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  of roster. So it's something that we have to consider. It's something that
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  like, I feel like it's a good thing because he's able to you know,
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  create you know, stars out of nothing stars. But I guess effective
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  players would probably better be a better way of saying it. So I'm excited
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  for it if it does happen, because it's a competent manager. It's not
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  somebody just to fill in a spot, you know, like it's not it's
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  not a revolving door of managers. It's more like, Okay, Conte's got
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  a more permanent name to it, you know, And it's gonna be like
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  a three year thing like he usually does. He stays for three years than
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  he ups and leaves. You know, I doubt he stays beyond three years.
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  But at least it gives the Lorents three years to either a help KNTE
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  reestablish a core so like that a stronger manager can come in and take them
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  to the next level, or be it helps the Lorentis identify, okay,
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  well which players of course Toby will start barking as soon as I'm doing,
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  or helps establish some kind of future for the I don't think Toby's a fan
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  of content Anapoli. No, I don't think so either I think I think
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  I think Toby's that's why. But one thing is for sure. I mean
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  Conte is definitely whoever he goes to, and I know the speculation with him
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  with me on a bit as well, but uh, you know, he's
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  definitely gonna whip whoever, whoever, whatever team he goes to, He's gonna
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  whip those players into shape. That's for sure. These guys are gonna really
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  know what training is. And you know, it's the one thing, even
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  though it might be going a bit too far in certain cases, I think
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  it's the one thing that you know what you're gonna get with Conte. You
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  know your team is going to be fit, your team is gonna be ready
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  to go, you know, tactic wise. If you like it or not,
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  you know, it is what it is. That's everybody's preference. But
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  you know, proven manager, like Jenny said, I think is a good
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  is a good word. Obviously, he's he's he's been around, he's won,
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  you know, he's he's he's coached and managed you know, you know,
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  top clubs around Europe. So you know, I'm I'm interested to see
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  I personally him in a d L. I think that's just gonna be like
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  Leoto goal is gonna have a field day with with with him and with him
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  in a d L if that were to happen. So we'll see. I
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  don't know if they'll make it, you know, past Christmas, but it
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  would be it would be interesting. Another thing, Jenny, I don't know
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  if it will be still barking, but because you're on mute, but I
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  wanted to say, you know, obviously, if Kante were to come in
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  and this is still in the hypothetical world before we you know, go on
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  to other topics. You know, he's gonna obviously want his players. He's
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  gonna obviously want certain guys, uh, you know, accustomed to everywhere he
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  goes. He wants his core guys he's gonna get He's gonna pressure management to
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  to give him the funds to buy that these players and and you know for
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  him to to to take the A team to the level that he thinks,
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  uh, you know, they can go to like does an aussumate and will
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  still go like with with if that were to happen, like obviously that's a
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  big fund. I don't know, he's kind of dipped in form, so
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  I don't know if he's as hard as a as you know, He's not
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  really that prized possession that everybody was ranting and raving with last year, even
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  though he's still obviously incredibly talented and still has it in them. But if
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  Kante were to come in, do you think when Allan still goes in the
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  summer? So I kind of agree with your point that Kante has his players
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  and he wants to get those type of players, and obviously, you know,
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  the Loventz is gonna have to get him get these players for him.
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  The easiest way to do that is to fund it through a sale of all
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  cemen, you know, but recent reports have stated that right now there's no
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  interests for all cemen because his price tag is a little high because he renewed
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  Starry rad Older the Naze I apologize, bro. It's because when he renewed
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  his contract, his release clauses summer between I think the one twenty, So
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  no team is willing to pay that much for all cemen. I don't think.
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  I don't think Ascimen would be too excited to be spending another year Innopoly.
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  Maybe he might be convinced to stay to give it one shot under Conte
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  see where it goes because Conte is a proven manager and is a respectful manager
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  in terms of like, you know, achievements, So I mean, I
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  think he probably might give it just one more year under Conte come out Scalia
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  rumored to be looking around too, but I mean everybody's looking to be moved
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  around and stuff, and everyone's looking to be shopped around. So yeah,
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  it's gonna be tough. I think the Lodent is gonna have to set the
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  expectations for Conte and be like, look, you're coming into a team that
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  you know, we went to school at the last year, but you know
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  we were shell of our like emotionally and our back line is just a shell
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  of what we were. It's like like like he knows coming into this situation
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  that the team is looking from the outside in in terms of any European competition.
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  You know, they're they're they're they're there's potential an Aapolete doesn't play any
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  europe European competition at all next year, and that has to be considered.
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  Did this Conte want to have a year of no year no Europe? Probably,
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  you know, but we're no one year of no Europe. That means
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  you have one year of not getting additional funding to buy players that you want.
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  So it's it's a big ask for Antonio Conte. For Antonio Antonio Conte,
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  it's a big ask for him to be like, hey, you know,
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  this is our situation. You know, we have a plan, we
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  would like to achieve it, but it's it's not ideal for either the players
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  or for a manager. What say you type of thing, So we'll see
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  it all the It's hard because what happens if you know, they spend that
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  whole summer not getting any any players for for Conte as he wants, and
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  then the last day of the Mercato, a team swoops in and offers that
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  one fifty mil for US men and they're going to go shoot a contract.
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  You know. It's like, well, great, you got your funding,
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  but the Mercato's closed and you're gonna have to You're going you have to make
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  some deals for the winter to happen, you know. So it's it's it's
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  it's shitty. But that's neither here nor there. We're not at that point
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  yet. I think right now the best course of action going into it is
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  just set the expectation for Conte being like there's potential that we have money with
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  the sale of some players, or there's the potential that we have no money
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  because we're not in Champions League. We don't have us human being sold and
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  you know, like we we have a roster that's good, but we need
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  to find a way to get that motivation of spark again. So it's it's
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  a project for Comte and if he's able to if I think the one of
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  the things that might like not say it's a guarantee, but if there's a
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  factor that will persuade him, it's the fact that he can actually if he
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  says, then he comes and he takes a roster and turns it around instead
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  of establishing one. I think it's bigger than building one up. Like if
• 19:45
  you manage to take a current roster that's all out of whack and then turn
• 19:48
  them around to make them like realize like, Okay, maybe this isn't the
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  project we should give up on. I think that speaks a bit more than
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  just going for your like your specific players that are already buying into your system
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  and you know, just establishing it right away. I think that speaks a
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  bit more. So I think that might be attractive to him. Plus he
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  gets to come back to Italy, but you know for less money he wants,
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  he wants that, he wants that for sure. You can you can
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  tell, like he said it that I'm pretty sure that you know, he
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  wants to come back and coach in Italy. It's interesting, man like and
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  you know what I I commend, I commend not believe Idel really going hard
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  after a guy like going it because you know, these types of managers,
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  they don't come around the you know all too often to be available at the
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  times that you kind of need a manager or somebody to fill in, uh,
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  you know, for your club. So I don't know, we'll see.
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  I know there's definitely still speculations of him, you know, going to
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  other places, but it's it seems like Idel is really really pushing for for
• 20:48
  to come and if it happens, I think, you know, even with
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  no Europe, if that were to happen again, we're still talking all hypotheticals
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  here, guy, but guys, but you know, Content can really push
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  not before you know, even with you know, some some additional players I
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  think, and can definitely push harder for you know, not only a tough
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  four finish, but really pushing for you know that that that first place and
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  really battling and not making it such a line slide in between one and two,
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  you know, so because he's really gonna have to only focus on on
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  on CEITII if that were to be the case. So obviously you want to
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  be in some sort of European competition for the funds. I get that,
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  But at the same time, I think trying to baby step your way back
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  to where you were last season I think can also be an alternative for for
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  this not but because we see it, we said it on the show.
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  Guys, now we just want to season the end like they're they're they're ready
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  to go. They're ready to get the summer going. You know, get
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  them cato on, see who comes in if it's Conte or whoever else and
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  uh, you know, start fresh come the summer, uh Adri. Both
• 21:57
  me and you are clubs. We have, you know, future coaching decisions
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  to make. I mean, we don't have decisions to make what our clubs
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  do. We'll talk about that soon. But zero zero, Melan, You've
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  it's got to be the friendliest derby in Cauchow because you know, before the
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  game you've as posting all these pictures, all these you know, historic players
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  of you Van Melan. Uh. You know everyone's excited beautiful derby it is.
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  It has to be the friendliest derby and people make fun of it because
• 22:26
  you've Meline fans generally get along well, especially when it comes to our hate
• 22:29
  fornter. But on the pitch, I think perfect example of where our clubs
• 22:33
  are at. Uh. You know, the Aril Poldi out camps were all
• 22:38
  over it on what was it on Saturday? Unfortunately I didn't get to see
• 22:41
  the first half. It's changing tires. I got to see the second half.
• 22:47
  Apparently changing tires was probably better than the first half though that's what I
• 22:49
  was told. The second half was it was fine. You know, you've
• 22:53
  had a couple of chances, but typically Juve fashion, they failed to put
• 22:56
  away their chances and they fail to get three points and it feels like it's
• 23:00
  been the story of the season. You know, there's a couple of plays
• 23:06
  where they had chances either passed it up or or or just didn't or didn't
• 23:11
  pass it and said, you know, there was one particular player with Ildez.
• 23:14
  It was he who was running an open space and he was caught down
• 23:17
  quickly, but I forget whom. And you know, it's just one of
• 23:21
  those plays. You have all that space, man, you're you got to
• 23:23
  use your speed, you got to create maintain that space. You can be
• 23:26
  caught up by the defender. Yeah, just just frustrating all around. Not
• 23:33
  surprised by it. I mean I would I would have expected to drop maybe
• 23:36
  a typical one to one draw, but you know, zero zero. It's
• 23:41
  exactly how both teams are playing. I don't know if you have if you
• 23:45
  saw it differently, Adri, Yeah, I know, listen, I think
• 23:48
  we stummed it up perfectly in terms of it was the WB Dela Snoosfest.
• 23:52
  There was you could you could have slept through the match. You maybe,
• 23:56
  uh, I don't know. You hata y hada a crazy as your Friday
• 24:00
  and uh you know he didn't want to wake up in time, even though
• 24:03
  it was I think a noon game here in these coasts. But and slept
• 24:07
  through where you you would have been perfectly fun. You went to miss anything.
• 24:10
  But it's unfortunate because I think you know these teams, uh, you
• 24:17
  know, even though there's nothing to play for, like we what we said
• 24:18
  last week, and we all know that, you know, still nothing changed
• 24:23
  like this could have either for on one side, on Melon side, could
• 24:26
  have you know, separate themselves further away from Juve to really claim second place.
• 24:32
  Uh, you know with four games left going into uh going into after
• 24:36
  this weekend, past weekend, but or you know, you've could have closed
• 24:41
  that gap a bit, a bit more on on you on and and claimed
• 24:45
  had more of a chance to claim second place. Now we entered the We
• 24:48
  entered the weekend five point difference, We leave the weekend still five point difference,
• 24:55
  four games left to play. I think both teams will be playing in
• 24:56
  Europe. Uh you know one shape or form come next season. From from
• 25:03
  what I've started on social media, but uh, it's just not good enough.
• 25:06
  I think it was just one of those games where you know you've had
• 25:11
  chances on targeting. I don't even think you had a chance on target.
• 25:14
  That they had nine shots, I don't think any of them were on the
• 25:17
  target. From and from my recollection, you can win. You can't win
• 25:22
  games like that. And in any sport hockey, football, soccer, basketball,
• 25:26
  whatever you want, you're you're not going to get anywhere with no shots
• 25:29
  on targets. So it's It was frustrating. I didn't know what to expect
• 25:33
  because I knew there was gonna be a bit of a makeshift formation, uh,
• 25:37
  you know, with with having three players out for for me on,
• 25:41
  you know, not having Calabria tail and tomorrow. I knew the the defense
• 25:47
  was going to be a bit of a bit of a makeshift defense. You
• 25:52
  know. Did we expect Mananto to to uh you know, feel something off?
• 25:57
  You know in the pregame warmups, no sport the able comes in and
• 26:00
  honestly matter the match, Uh saved me one plenty of times. The double
• 26:04
  saved there on. I think it was done low there. It was incredible
• 26:10
  when he was down. I think he said that. I think he said
• 26:12
  it with his face, if I'm not mistaken. He really put his put
• 26:15
  himself out there. So, you know, we can't ask so much more
• 26:21
  on on that end. We just couldn't get anything going offensively. It seems
• 26:26
  like again both I think all our teams, maybe besides Roma, because they've
• 26:30
  been actually playing and they have stuff to play for. I think we still
• 26:34
  all do have things to play for in terms of really solidifying our places in
• 26:37
  the table. But you know, me On and you've I think just wanna
• 26:42
  again. And we said it last week and and in previous weeks, like
• 26:45
  they want to get this season over with and and and and you know,
• 26:49
  call it a season. We know where we're gonna finish more or less.
• 26:53
  Uh, let's wrap it up and and and start freshening the come the summertime.
• 26:57
  It seems I know it sounds on guys, but it really seems to
• 27:00
  be the case with these teams, which is sad because you know, I
• 27:06
  don't think there's only if there's four there's four games left five for some teams,
• 27:10
  and you know things aren't officially solidified in terms of position. You want
• 27:15
  to finish as high as possible no matter what the season turned out to be.
• 27:18
  I think a bit of pride, uh is needed. Come this this
• 27:22
  this business end of the season where there's not much to play for. And
• 27:26
  yeah, listen, I'm upset. It's it's upsetting. It's it's it's it's
• 27:30
  disappointing. You know, people are gonna blain po if people are going to
• 27:36
  continue to bling POA. People are gonna blame lay out. People are gonna
• 27:37
  blame you know, the you know, the different players, the bit different
• 27:41
  top players, you know, on the on the team. But it's a
• 27:45
  collective effort. I think nobody really showed it and it's a shame. But
• 27:49
  again we'll take the point. Uh you know, I heard I think might
• 27:55
  be out for another week. I heard I think of his cheek might be
• 27:59
  out as well for a week or so. So so we'll see. I'm
• 28:03
  just I want to I just want to finish as high as possible and kind
• 28:07
  of just with a bit of pride before uh changes happen. And you know
• 28:11
  we're talking about Conte to to I know there was the rumors there for for
• 28:15
  me one as well. Fans are are are protesting against uh you know,
• 28:21
  uh Lopateeggy for for for the next manager spot. Again it's it's it's I
• 28:26
  don't want to get down this rabbit hole of a mess that just kind of
• 28:32
  ruins what we have going on because I think again like not we like even
• 28:37
  a Juventus, uh you know and these other teams, that there is a
• 28:41
  core there, There is something to work off of. There is talent on
• 28:45
  the rosters. Are they there physically and mentally? No? But I think
• 28:49
  there is pieces to work with and pieces to go into the future. With
• 28:53
  with whomever the new managers will be. So I feel like the three of
• 28:59
  us are in the same boat for for the most part, and we'll see
• 29:03
  how it goes. But not a not a not an atmosphere and not a
• 29:08
  not a game where you know when you see Yuba Melan or Milan Juve,
• 29:11
  wherever the game is, it's like you wake up for these types of games.
• 29:15
  You're excited that you know it's on the calendar, You're you you want
• 29:18
  to watch these games. You know it didn't even matter if you watched it
• 29:21
  or not. Nothing really happened. So and you know, there's not really
• 29:23
  much the recap. So what we go on? Like I said, four
• 29:27
  more games and uh, you know, we'll see how this end of the
• 29:30
  season fans out for for Melan and for the rest of our teams. I
• 29:34
  feel like this summer is going to be like the summer of twenty nineteen when
• 29:37
  Roma Juve. Back in twenty nineteen, Roma You've a Melan inter and uh
• 29:44
  not believe did not change their coach that year, but they did later in
• 29:47
  twenty nineteen. It feels like it's gonna be one of those summers where all
• 29:49
  the big teams change change their coaches. Yeah, you know what the whole
• 29:56
  mealon saga with with Retegi and uh little little Pati I was. I was
• 30:04
  already thinking of the Eurosie channel, the whole like change or petition as fans
• 30:12
  think that that doing doing that is going to change something. It's just nice.
• 30:18
  It might. It might the reports, you know, I don't hate
• 30:21
  to read into some reports, but it's like then you see, like you
• 30:25
  know, love prote is a concrete option for miland then this whole petition like
• 30:30
  goes out and it's like now Milan will be re evaluating the you know what
• 30:36
  after seeing the petition will reevaluate uh and really want to get the you know,
• 30:41
  the decision right. So yeah, I don't know. Again, just
• 30:45
  I wanted to make the decision. I don't think a little pate. I'm
• 30:48
  sorry to cut you off, but I don't think a little pategy really takes
• 30:51
  us that to another level. Like, like I said earlier, envy abl
• 30:56
  for really pushing hard for Galleconte. You know, if if you're very serious
• 31:00
  about Diego Malta, like these are serious acquisitions and you know acquisitions, I
• 31:06
  can take these teams to another level. I don't think again, I don't
• 31:08
  know too much about Lopatechi in terms of what he can really offer, but
• 31:14
  it just doesn't excite myself. I know it doesn't excite a lot of Mealan
• 31:17
  fans. So it almost feels like that cliche. You know, you're you're
• 31:22
  you're changing four quarters for a dollar and we've been down that path before and
• 31:26
  you know, it's not really anything to to to write home about. And
• 31:30
  we want that, we want to get to that next level. But is
• 31:33
  a guy like over techy that guy right now? I don't think so.
• 31:37
  Yeah, I don't know. But it's just interesting because you have the whole
• 31:40
  camp saying you know yo, and then and then you know there's a potential
• 31:44
  replacement, it's like, no, no, we don't want him, you
• 31:47
  know, like you're not getting you're not getting Guardiola, You're not getting clopp
• 31:51
  you know absolutely, of course yeah, or Antolia, like of course,
• 31:59
  you know, there's no is gonna be fans upset with stuff. But when
• 32:01
  it comes to this coaching stuff, sometimes a team needs a change and a
• 32:07
  change is good and that's what's gonna change. And and you know, I
• 32:09
  think you've aised in a position for that where you know historically, Yes,
• 32:15
  he's a good coach. I still think he is a good quach. I
• 32:17
  think he's a good I've talked about this before. I think he's at least
• 32:21
  a good leader, and he did get you through this tough period in the
• 32:23
  past year and a half. But I think now it's it's good for a
• 32:27
  change. And you know what, Manta is not to the same pedigree as
• 32:30
  agree if you if Manta comes in, he doesn't have the same pedigree.
• 32:34
  He's had one fantastic season with Bologna so far, he's won zero trophies as
• 32:38
  a coach at the senior level. But does that mean it's a bad higher
• 32:44
  No, you know it's it's a it's a change. We're gonna see how
• 32:47
  it is. I've said this before. I don't expect like a whole miracle
• 32:54
  to happen if Manta comes in. You know, you've a'sed in third place
• 33:00
  right now, they'll probably be fighting for the top three, maybe they'll go
• 33:02
  up to two. You know, then you okay, you could complete.
• 33:06
  You're gonna compare the points total this and that. You know it's next year
• 33:10
  there's gonna be Champions League. You know they have the club World Cup at
• 33:14
  the end of the next season, So there's other challenges that Multi will face
• 33:16
  if he becomes the coach. Like again, this is all based on reports.
• 33:22
  You know, we're what April twenty ninth today, so what so season
• 33:25
  another month left of the season, so we're gonna talk about this again in
• 33:29
  the month. But you know, there's just there's always gonna be people who
• 33:35
  were upset. You any think back in the the Pierlu season where you know,
• 33:42
  obviously he was the first coach, like the school had to run into
• 33:45
  that at the end of that year. But I don't think he was a
• 33:50
  bad coach at all, And I think you was fine that year. They
• 33:53
  were fun to watch. They still won the Super COVID and the Kope Italia.
• 33:58
  But you know, he was fired and and a Leur comes in and
• 34:00
  then Ve is worse, so all the people who are calling for Pire low
• 34:05
  out and then Aleegur comes in there like scrambling to defend the Leger at least
• 34:08
  in that first season. You know, I also think that with Manta or
• 34:15
  any other coach coming in, there's a transition period, so kind of like
• 34:19
  how Alaguri had a transition period back and it was a rough season, that
• 34:22
  twenty one to twenty two season. That's could be what we're seeing, what
• 34:27
  we'll see next year. You know, at the end of the day,
• 34:30
  it's the eleven guys on the pitch that make the difference. Obviously, a
• 34:32
  coach comes in. Every coach has their tactics. They're the ones who motivate
• 34:36
  the guys this and that. But you know, even if you give Ancelotti
• 34:40
  eleven pieces of would he can't build the treehouse. You know, he still
• 34:46
  needs he still needs the screwdriver and the screws and everything. Right, Mont's
• 34:52
  not coming in with this current squad with Juve for example, and changing any
• 34:57
  other coach, even Milan, they have a good team, but neither Meland
• 35:00
  or you've e are as good as into right now. So you know,
• 35:06
  considering their second we're both second and third in the table. How much better
• 35:09
  can we be? You know, Yeah, you know its remains to be
• 35:15
  seen. You could talk about it all day, but yeah, it's uh,
• 35:20
  there's a lot to talk about with these coaches. Yeah, I don't
• 35:24
  know. I don't know if Jenny has anything else that either. I think
• 35:29
  it's just, you know, it's just it's one of these things. Where
• 35:31
  you know these projects, you know, I think they're are more majority of
• 35:36
  these teams are are have obviously different ambitions and their projects are have different trajectories.
• 35:43
  But you know, like I said, there's pieces to work with at
• 35:49
  the very least. So you know, I think whoever it is hired again
• 35:52
  hypothetically, like we're speaking based off what we see in the in the news
• 35:57
  and you know they got dead and all the reports. Uh, you know,
• 36:00
  there are pieces to work with. There, there is a there is
• 36:02
  somewhat of a foundation. But again it starts at the top, uh,
• 36:07
  like it always does, you know, in any business. So I don't
• 36:10
  know, like I want to, I'm curious to see, like how these
• 36:14
  things, how these things work out, because yes, I think there is
• 36:16
  obviously a gap currently with between a team like Inter and you know the rest
• 36:22
  of our teams here and just the rest of said Yeah, but you know,
• 36:27
  we said that about aptly last season. And you know, I don't
• 36:30
  want to I don't want to shut an uply, but you know what happened
• 36:34
  this season, right, So I'm not saying that's what's gonna happen to to
• 36:37
  Inter next season. But you know, a couple a couple of pieces go
• 36:42
  and and it's you know, it could be a whole different ballgame. So,
• 36:45
  you know, I think it's really a time will tell type of thing
• 36:49
  for for all these situations. You know, fans can fans can you know,
• 36:54
  hope and pray for you know, certain you know players or managers to
• 36:59
  come in. But at the end of the day, it's what makes sense
• 37:02
  for the club, uh, and that's what will happen again. To speak
• 37:07
  for Melon, it's you know, there was already I remember obviously when I've
• 37:13
  said it timeless times on the show. But you know before, as before
• 37:16
  even became the Melon manager, there was always there's already the po olt hashtag
• 37:22
  right now with the Lope uh, you know reports and rumors, there's already
• 37:29
  the no patay hashtag. Right So is it another situation where you know,
• 37:35
  like like it was with again, we don't know. Only time will tell,
• 37:39
  you know, POI wasn't anything to write home about. He brought us
• 37:45
  to a scudetto a semifinal of of the Champions League, and and took us
• 37:50
  to heights that we hadn't seen in quite some time. Well, a guy
• 37:52
  like Ope, you do the same. I I personally don't think so.
• 37:55
  And that just me off of off of a limb kind of how I feel
• 38:01
  about that. But it's curious to see. And we said that even you
• 38:07
  know, for the whole Tego month, because it seems like that's the strongest
• 38:09
  rumor. And again, I know Milan was rumored with him as well,
• 38:13
  and but you know, with the host rumor to Juve, it's like we
• 38:17
  already said it on the show. Guys, it's like small sample size.
• 38:22
  I wish him well, we hope he does well, you know, up
• 38:24
  and coming the Italian coach. But you know, Bologna and you and Juventus
• 38:30
  is two different, two different, you know, clubs, standards, expectations.
• 38:37
  That piazza is very different than the Bologna piazza. You know it's you
• 38:40
  know, you go to Juventus like the only thing that matters is winning.
• 38:45
  Uh, you know that that's that's for all these top teams. Winning is
• 38:47
  most important, you know, the one that you can play a beautiful football,
• 38:52
  you know you can, you can experiment a bit, you can have
• 38:54
  these these moments you know, with a Juve with a me, one with
• 38:59
  with an inter and you know these the Roman teams, not pu it's you
• 39:02
  know, there's there's a fine margins of of been able to really push the
• 39:07
  envelope in in these fashions like at the end of the day, like these
• 39:10
  these clubs need to win, These clubs need the three points. There's nothing
• 39:14
  in between. So we'll see. Listen, it's going to be an interesting
• 39:19
  end of the season in terms of where teams will finish. I think the
• 39:22
  coaching carousel that we've that we saw, you know, four or five years
• 39:25
  ago, potentially can or will probably happen again this summer. And it's for
• 39:30
  me, it's a it's a time hotel type of situation for how things pan
• 39:35
  out. Uh, Jenny haven't spoken in a while, so we do have
• 39:40
  a question on so social media you could you could probably answer this. It's
• 39:45
  all right in the lean of this topic. Uh. From Die Rob's eleven
• 39:49
  I read earlier that Mata to you is pretty much a done deal. How
• 39:52
  do you think he'll do and how will Bologna cope with him? So,
• 39:54
  you know, we talked about how how we think he'll do it without him?
• 39:58
  I like the second part, how do you think balloon it would be
• 40:00
  without him? Good? Honestly speaking, I don't even think Bologna repeats next
• 40:07
  year, because that roster is gonna get picked apart at the end of the
• 40:09
  season. I feel like as if there's a lot of players that are gonna
• 40:12
  be bought and moved, and if Matta leaves, then Bologna is gonna go
• 40:15
  back to not to redundancy, but back to like like being like the bottom
• 40:21
  ten team. Done deal will be a bit too much of a stretch to
• 40:27
  say it's but it is a bit of a steep challenge for him to do.
• 40:32
  But it's a great way to see if he's ready to manage a top
• 40:35
  tier club versus a middle tier to lower tier club. But I don't think
• 40:40
  Bologna even even if they lose, even if they lose Matta, but but
• 40:45
  keep the same roster, It's not gonna be the same. It's not gonna
• 40:47
  be the same. It's a players subconsciously might have that system in their mind,
• 40:52
  but obviously, at the end of the day, they're gonna have to
• 40:53
  play with whatever their new manager is going to give them in terms of a
• 40:57
  system. And if these players flourish under a different system, there's gonna be
• 41:00
  a clash and obviously there might be issues. But I feel like it's if
• 41:05
  that roster is gonna get picked apart once the season ends and during the summer,
• 41:08
  I feel like it's is Bologna was really great to see, but it's
• 41:12
  not gonna be something that will like will repeat itself. But not that I'm
• 41:20
  wishing them will like like I want them to not repeat. It would be
• 41:22
  pretty cool, like I it would be very nice to see that. It's
• 41:25
  nice to get like an eight sister competing, but let's be realistic here.
• 41:30
  It's uh, it's it's a one off. It's a one off essentially.
• 41:34
  So that that's my thoughts on that question. I I think Bologna doesn't even
• 41:37
  cope at all, but not just because a month they leaving, because a
• 41:40
  lot of those players are gonna be sold immediately because they have their highest value
• 41:45
  now. And if you're an owner of that team, so you know,
• 41:49
  Joey Supputz, you know what you're gonna be doing. You're gonna be selling
• 41:52
  those guys and you're gonna have the fans get angry at you, and Saputo's
• 41:54
  gonna be like, oh, we at least I have the impact and then
• 41:57
  do fuk all with the impact. But that's definite no. But hey listen,
• 42:01
  you know they you know, if they, if they do sell these
• 42:04
  players, which you know obviously guys like zer zay Uh, you know,
• 42:07
  Calafioti, Lewis, Ferguson, like all these players. You know, maybe
• 42:13
  even a guy like Orcelinia, I don't know, are going to get probably
• 42:17
  taken. And it only takes those three to four players to take off that
• 42:21
  squad. And you know you're gonna really have to reinvest properly. I think
• 42:24
  is the biggest thing, because you saw these players, you're bringing in a
• 42:28
  profit. You're going to get that European money, if it be Champions League
• 42:31
  Europa, whatever it's you know, I I saw it before we got on
• 42:35
  here. Obviously that video that was going around with Orcelonian is none now,
• 42:37
  which was which was beautiful, you know in tears, you know, Boonie
• 42:42
  after twenty two years back in back in the European competition for next season.
• 42:45
  So that is wrapped up. Where it will be in terms of Champions or
• 42:49
  Europa again remains to be seen. But if all things point away they go
• 42:53
  in, it's going to be a Champions League spot and you know for a
• 42:58
  you know, for a team like Bonia, it's gonna be a ma And
• 43:00
  so it's a shame that all things are pointing to this team getting really blown
• 43:07
  up, not only from a manager perspective, but even a player perspective,
• 43:10
  because I think they could have. I always fought a bit, you know,
• 43:15
  in Europe and had those experiences and and and and been able to to
• 43:17
  build a little bit of a cycle. But we'll see again. Who knows
• 43:22
  who were to come in, who would they go after? I don't know.
• 43:25
  That's a whole other ballgame, a whole other you know, talking point.
• 43:29
  But you know, a Monta leaves, you know, zerk Say goes
• 43:34
  somewhere, a call of Fiorty, everybody is on him. And I agree
• 43:37
  with Johnny, like, not like you're if you're a you're a business owner.
• 43:40
  And obviously Joyce Putu is h you know, this is when you're gonna
• 43:45
  make your money these players, like Johnny said, and I agree totally.
• 43:49
  And it's a good point that you brought up. Is these guys are at
• 43:52
  their their highest of values a lot of these players, you know, so
• 43:57
  you might as well capitalize on that now because it's not it's not forever.
• 44:00
  So it's a shame because these types of stories you want to see kind of
• 44:06
  prolonged a bit longer. But who knows, maybe they're maybe they pull another
• 44:09
  Atalanta type of type of story, and and and they continue on, you
• 44:15
  know, year in and year out, pulling diamonds out of the rough and
• 44:17
  and and and fighting for you know, for Europe and in whatever case that
• 44:21
  may be. So again, we'll see. But great question, uh,
• 44:27
  a great question on social media. There it's it's it's really it's it's a
• 44:30
  hard work answer. But I think at the same time, it's there's kind
• 44:32
  of obviously the obvious part of it as well, you know. That's yeah,
• 44:38
  how I kind of see it as well. Nick. I don't know
• 44:39
  if you saw it differently, but yeah, I agree with you guys.
• 44:45
  I think, you know, this is a purple past season for them,
• 44:47
  great season, but if they lose players next year, it won't be the
• 44:52
  same. I think, you know, they could either go one of two,
• 44:53
  so they could go with the Atalanta route where they reinvest in their team
• 44:58
  and maintain you know, let's say a top seven battle every season and they're
• 45:02
  competitive at least for the next five ten years, or they go like a
• 45:07
  Sosolo route. Where you know, one season they'll be in top seven,
• 45:12
  then then next season top ten, the top twelve and now so Solo is
• 45:15
  going down to City of b Or they're on their way down to City B
• 45:17
  So I think going into as If Or they'll probably just be like Fiorentina where
• 45:24
  they're right in the middle, right in the heat of it all all the
• 45:27
  time, where they'll probably you know, qualify at least now. You know,
• 45:30
  with Conference League, there's an extra spot for those mid to upper mid
• 45:35
  range teams like Bologna. But you know, if they do lose the coach,
• 45:38
  it'll be hard to go back at Tolanta route because Atlanta they've they've maintained
• 45:43
  it because of Gaspadinian, because of the system he's had in place, and
• 45:46
  they've also invested in all these youngsters. Every year it seems like they have
• 45:51
  these youngsters or guys they bought from you know, smaller European leagues come through.
• 45:57
  So yeah, it means to be seen obviously. I don't you know,
• 46:00
  I don't see them qualifying again for Champions League after the next season,
• 46:04
  but hey, they're gonna get a lot of money they could, even if
• 46:07
  they lose a couple of guys, if they invest right, they could get
• 46:10
  other players to fill in. But speaking about other European competition, obviously,
• 46:17
  this week Europa League is back, so Roma plays on Thursday as well.
• 46:22
  So a Roma plays lever Custon, Atlanta plays Marseille and then Conference League Fiorentina
• 46:30
  plays Bruges on Thursday. But that's not exactly what I want to talk about,
• 46:32
  because I don't know if you guys saw so At Atlanta Fiorentina, they
• 46:35
  still have to play their game that was canceled when when when Joe Barona Joe
• 46:39
  Baroni passed away. Uh, And apparently now so so At Atlanta plays this
• 46:45
  Thursday, they play the Thursday after on the ninth, and then the week
• 46:51
  after they play on the Wednesday, which is the fifteenth, as a Kopi
• 46:53
  Italian final, and then and then I think after that, there's there's no
• 47:00
  other date that they could play because well there there's games on the nineteenth and
• 47:04
  twenty six, So I don't know why they can't play the in the middle
• 47:07
  of the week of the last last week of me uh, but uh,
• 47:10
  they might have to play that. They might have to play that game after
• 47:14
  everyone else finishes this is classic city. I don't know if you guys have
• 47:16
  any thoughts on this whole weird situation. I mean, I understand why the
• 47:21
  game was postponed between that's a lot of Fiorentina obviously would have been a tough
• 47:24
  situation for the for the Fiorentina players, But I don't know, what do
• 47:28
  you what do you guys think of what the city actually do here? Try
• 47:32
  to find some sort of spot like I mean, I've been seeing that,
• 47:37
  I heard that there's it almost seemed like there was more chances of them not
• 47:42
  playing the game, like in within the calendar year, like in quotations and
• 47:46
  you know, wait for after this season, which again at the end of
• 47:51
  the day, like we already know these guys play way too much cultural like
• 47:53
  it's it's a known fact at this point. But like, squeeze this game
• 47:58
  somewhere else, like squeezes, I would try to squeeze it in. Again,
• 48:01
  I don't have an answer to why they can't squeeze it in on that
• 48:06
  last match week, if I guess it also depends on if if these teams
• 48:12
  progress in Europe, because unfortunately the two teams at hand with this are also
• 48:17
  you know, in semi finals of European competitions if they were both to advance
• 48:22
  the finals, hawes that work after the dates. So I know it's a
• 48:28
  busy, a busy schedule, So maybe that's kind of another factor as to
• 48:31
  why you know there is no quote unquote room in the schedule to to fit
• 48:36
  this game in or try to squeeze it in somewhere. But it's it's a
• 48:39
  weird one obviously, something that you're not gonna you can't really expect. I
• 48:45
  still stick by the fact that you know, the right things were done on
• 48:49
  that match day, you know, canceling the game and postpone into another time,
• 48:52
  because at the end of the day, you know, health and and
• 48:58
  you know people's lives are more important then then, you know, then a
• 49:01
  ball on a pitch kicking it around. So I do understand that, and
• 49:07
  I'm totally not saying they shouldn't have done that, but I hope they have
• 49:10
  find some sort of happy medium to try to find this This game we're slipping
• 49:15
  in somewhere in the season, because I think it'll be weird to see it
• 49:17
  after not only weird, but I don't know how, Like I could already
• 49:22
  see the drama with all that you know after the season, and you know
• 49:27
  Atalanta is close to in points with with you know, the Aromas of the
• 49:32
  world, and again, who knows what happens in these last four match days,
• 49:37
  but like, can we could we just imagine if there's you know,
• 49:42
  some sort of thing on the line in terms of who's going to get that
• 49:45
  champions millue ball, who's not This game is not playing after the season,
• 49:49
  so you know teams are gonna have to wait for that game to be played
• 49:51
  to really know where they finish. I just don't want it to be a
• 49:53
  mess. I feel like it's going to be ultimately, I don't think there
• 49:58
  might be a choice, but it I hope they do the right thing and
• 50:01
  then and they find a spot for this game, because I could already see
• 50:06
  the future and and the drama that ensues, uh concerning Sadi and and the
• 50:10
  schedule Johnny any any anything? Well, I mean I'm gonna comment, but
• 50:16
  like there's a dog sweaky toy in the background, so I mean, like
• 50:19
  I'm it's uh, so I apologize to the listeners because trackles my door and
• 50:25
  hopefully that helps things out. I think it's rather silly, but I understand
• 50:32
  it's it's what can you do? It's like, especially not a lot of
• 50:37
  situation. You have so much culture to play, like, there's so much
• 50:40
  you got. It's it's a big ask. I think that it's the best
• 50:46
  situation for both parties. And yeah, you know, the league's gonna have
• 50:51
  to wait a bit, especially when if it's gonna be a match that's gonna
• 50:52
  determine standing. So you know, it sucks. But hey, look on
• 50:58
  the bright side of it, I mean, there's gonna be a lot of
• 51:00
  viewership on that game because there'snna be a lot of eyes watching it to see
• 51:02
  like, oh, like does this affect the standings or it doesn't affect the
• 51:06
  standings? You don't like obviously it before before we even get there. It's
• 51:09
  to the point where it's like, okay, well this game is not gonna
• 51:13
  determine standings. It's gonna pretty much it's just gonna determine if they're more solidified
• 51:15
  or not, like if it's a switch between four and five and or like
• 51:20
  like excitement's gonna be exist switch between seven eight, you know, so we'll
• 51:24
  have to see whenever we get there. So I'm curious to see what what
• 51:30
  that result is gonna be I think I think it's okay though that it's at
• 51:34
  the end of season. I'm on the side that it's the best solution.
• 51:37
  It's the one that makes the most sense. It does suck that we're gonna
• 51:39
  have to wait, but logically speaking, it would be way too condensed to
• 51:43
  try to squeeze it somewhere else. So that's that's on. That's that's what
• 51:46
  that's That's what my thoughts are. People are probably gonna hate me for that,
• 51:50
  but that's probably what my thoughts are on that it is where it is.
• 51:52
  I think it comes down to it is where it is. It is.
• 51:54
  That's that's what it is. Where all you want to I'm like,
• 51:57
  I'm saying like I'm gonna say, I hope they are finding or could find
• 52:00
  a spot into the schedule. But if there isn't, I think there's so
• 52:05
  many factors like and if there isn't, I mean, what more do you
• 52:09
  want, you know, the way to do? I mean, there's it's
• 52:13
  an unforeseen thing, you know, from from him from Joe Barona being hospitalized
• 52:19
  to ultimately passing away. I mean in such a short period of time,
• 52:22
  like you can't expect you couldn't have expected these things. You couldn't have really
• 52:25
  thought these things were going to come up. So, like I said,
• 52:30
  people's lives and and and you know, uh, it's comes very comes way
• 52:35
  before culture. So again I'm for the decision. I'm glad it got you
• 52:39
  know, canceled and postponed. But it's just, uh, it's it's unfortunate
• 52:45
  that it's going to have to come down to these types of options come the
• 52:49
  ind of the season. Uh. And lastly, guys, regarding these Europa
• 52:54
  League games Roman Laver clupse I think for me that's the most interesting one because
• 52:59
  Laver's close and I don't know exactly what the numbers are. It's over forty
• 53:02
  five games unbeaten. Uh. They they tied, they tied this past weekend
• 53:09
  against Stute Guard to two, and it was the last minute goal, ninety
• 53:13
  six minute goal that they scored to keep that streak alive, which is it's
• 53:17
  just crazy, guys that the season they've been having so unexpected, you know,
• 53:22
  this is really the story of the year, and now Roman has to
• 53:24
  play them in Europa League. They did beat west Ham two nothing and then
• 53:30
  tie them one one in the quarterfinals of the of the Europa League. But
• 53:35
  against Carabag it was to two in the first league and then three to two
• 53:37
  in the second league, so you know, they could score a lot,
• 53:42
  but they also get scored a lot on a lot, which is kind of
• 53:45
  the opposite of you know, the typical Italian game, right, So it's
• 53:50
  gonna be interesting obviously with the ROSSI this is his first venture into European you
• 53:53
  know, this deep into European tournament as a coach. Jenny, I mean,
• 54:00
  what do you what do you expect for for Roma here? I expect
• 54:04
  them to give them they're all I mean, what else can you do,
• 54:06
  especially with give them the competition that you have piecing right in front of you.
• 54:09
  I think Roma is capable of, you know, getting the surprise result.
• 54:14
  I think I wouldn't count this team out, I think, and I
• 54:17
  think the way the players are playing, they're more focused on getting to like
• 54:22
  playing in Europa League. They're not really focusing on Setia itself. I feel
• 54:28
  like this is that the like for them. Their qualification for champions is most
• 54:31
  likely coming from winning the Europa League title instead of finishing in the top five,
• 54:36
  but they could still obviously finish that top five they're not sound as if
• 54:38
  they're they're giving up on it. It's just like from the way you see
• 54:42
  them play, it just feels like as if they're more focused. I think
• 54:45
  they're balancing it very well, to be honest, like they've they've surprisingly balanced
• 54:50
  it very well. Like that'll see. I think has done well in terms
• 54:54
  of balancing both. I think the only hiccup in terms of that was obviously
• 54:58
  that Beloning game on the twenty second there that they were totally out of it,
• 55:04
  and you know, they they picked up I think the the second or
• 55:07
  third loss under de rossi uh since he since he joined as coach. But
• 55:12
  I think they've been bouncing the pretty well. Obviously, they've really showed up
• 55:15
  in Europa League, which is nice. And I think that prior experience under
• 55:19
  Marigno get into different heights, you know, in finals in both Europa League
• 55:25
  and Conference LEA definitely helped this court. You know, this core squad.
• 55:29
  You add a guy like Luca who you had a guy like uh, you
• 55:32
  know, Dibala with with their experience and you know, obviously the ball is
• 55:37
  a top player and he's been he's been you know, Champions League and stuff
• 55:42
  like that. So you know, these players know the know the stakes,
• 55:44
  and I think I think, honestly, like I don't want to, I
• 55:46
  didn't want to cut you off the journey, but I think, you know,
• 55:50
  has really bounced both of them, you know, pretty like pretty well
• 55:53
  and in an unideal time. But at the same time, he's doing the
• 55:59
  best with what he had. And I think, just to add on to
• 56:02
  that, I totally agree, like these players are meant to play in those
• 56:06
  type of competitions, and it's Tammy coming back is pretty huge for Oma because
• 56:09
  it gives them, They gives him a threat off the bench, you know,
• 56:13
  like like if it's not gonna be Devala, it's gonna be Timmy,
• 56:15
  it's not gonna be Time, it's gonna be LOOKACKU Like It's like it did.
• 56:19
  It's it's something that offers so much for them, and I I feel
• 56:22
  like, especially like I said before, with the loss last year in the
• 56:28
  final to Savilla, I feel like they have a chip on their shoulder.
• 56:30
  They really want to go for the win. It's gonna be tough, but
• 56:36
  I think they have a every fighting chance. And then on the other side,
• 56:39
  Atalanta Marseille, I mean, I don't know too much about the season
• 56:43
  Marseilles having, but it feels like Atlanta is just getting hot at the right
• 56:45
  time. You know, they had they had the comeback win against Uarantina.
• 56:51
  It seemed like Fiorentina was gonna make it to the final and the copy Italian
• 56:53
  Colpi Italian. Then Atlanta came back with what was it two or three league
• 56:59
  goals andrew. You know, Fiorentina was down to ten men last week.
• 57:02
  But regardless, it's it's a gutsy win. You know, I'm even looking
• 57:06
  at Marseilles stats. They they won on the weekend against Lens. They tied
• 57:10
  to to last week uh twice last week actually against Nice and Toulouse. And
• 57:16
  in Europa League they beat they beat Benfica on penalties. Uh so, and
• 57:22
  honestly looks like they haven't they haven't been having the best season. They lost
• 57:25
  to Ran in March, they lost to lil they lost to PSG. Where
• 57:29
  are they on the on the on the table. Uh They're seventh in France.
• 57:31
  So you know, this is obviously a lot easier uh matchup for for
• 57:37
  Atalanta than Liverkusin is for Roma. So you know, if if I'm a
• 57:43
  betting man and you know, one Italian team makes it to the final.
• 57:45
  I would choose Atlanta Roma, but it would be really cool to see to
• 57:50
  Italian teams in the final. We you know, missed out on that last
• 57:52
  year when you've lost to SIFA in the in the semis. But we were
• 57:57
  in the same situation last year, right to Italian teams in the opposite semi
• 58:00
  finals of Europa League and then Conference League. Farentina is playing against Bruges,
• 58:07
  which again I can't tell you how they're doing. I'm gonna look it up
• 58:09
  right now in in in the Belgium League. They're in fourth place. They're
• 58:15
  in fourth place in that league, so you know, typical conference league team.
• 58:22
  I guess it's that that that was probably more of a toss up,
• 58:25
  but again you never know. To get to this point. They beat uh
• 58:31
  Poke from the Greek League p a ok I don't know if they they go
• 58:37
  piok or if they say p okay. And they also beat Mold from Norway
• 58:40
  and on penalties in the round to sixteen. So yeah, I mean,
• 58:46
  it would be cool to see if Fiorentina in the final, especially after what
• 58:49
  happened with them. You know that we just talked about uh and I think
• 58:52
  I think they're gonna be determined to go to the final two half they after
• 58:55
  they missed out on the Cope Tally final with with what happened last week,
• 59:00
  so it should be interesting. I don't know if you guys had any last
• 59:01
  thoughts about those those matchups. I think I think the all Italian final is
• 59:07
  the ideal situation for all us cultural fans and Sea fans. Uh. And
• 59:13
  again I think, but why not, like you know what I mean,
• 59:17
  I'm gonna say that. I think I'm gonna say it's gonna be all the
• 59:20
  Italian Final. I know it's gonna be crazy. I know everybody's gonna lean
• 59:22
  towards Bio Leverclusin. But what a story it would be if it would take
• 59:29
  like you know, this Roma team under the ROSSI to to dethrown this this
• 59:34
  mighty bier Leverclusin, uh, you know, in in Europe. So listen,
• 59:38
  they took care of business against Milan, you know, all credit to
• 59:43
  them. Let's see if they can make it to the final now. And
• 59:45
  and same thing for Atalanta. And I think Nick you said it. You
• 59:49
  said it before, and I think you said it in previous shows, you
• 59:51
  know, getting hot at the right time for this Atlanta squad. Certain players
• 59:53
  getting hot, like beautiful goal, uh for for Skamanka. Uh, you
• 1:00:00
  know, the scissor kid going in the Corpyitalia last week. Uh, these
• 1:00:06
  players are getting hot coop miners. Uh. You know, lookman, whoever
• 1:00:09
  may be, you know, these players are getting hot at the right time.
• 1:00:13
  And you know the only thing that's missing for this Atalanta team is it's
• 1:00:16
  somewhat of a some some sort of a trophy something to show for, like
• 1:00:21
  you know, all this, all this effort, all this there's there's one
• 1:00:25
  sweat and tears into into playing this type of football and and too and to
• 1:00:30
  you know, be this the story that they've been over these past seasons.
• 1:00:34
  Gaspardini has never been able to get over that hump and and you know,
• 1:00:37
  bring a trophy for these types of efforts. So you know what, let's
• 1:00:40
  see, he has two shots at it, uh you know Corpitalia, which
• 1:00:45
  we can maybe touch upon before we get out of here. But uh and
• 1:00:49
  obviously the the Europe week so uh, you know, I don't know if
• 1:00:53
  he takes home both, but he has an opportunity to take home potentially one
• 1:01:00
  or none. But again, there there's always that that hope that you know,
• 1:01:02
  you can you can make it to a final and and and finally win
• 1:01:06
  one after all these all this all this effort over these years. So we'll
• 1:01:12
  see. I think for Fudentina before we wrap this up, is you know,
• 1:01:15
  they they've they've really played well in conference league. They've they've really kind
• 1:01:21
  of I don't want to say own the competition, but they've played well.
• 1:01:25
  You know, maybe they haven't gone over that hump yet. And I know,
• 1:01:29
  obviously this is a new competition. Filentina's new ish in this in this
• 1:01:34
  competition, but these past what two seasons now that they've been in conference like,
• 1:01:37
  they've again obviously it's conference so it's not uh, you know, heavy
• 1:01:42
  duty competition. But still I think they've they've shown that they're capable of of
• 1:01:47
  doing it, and they've gotten to this point. You tell you, I
• 1:01:50
  know again needs to get over this hump and and try to you know,
• 1:01:54
  uh, do something more than just you know, people owing and all in
• 1:01:59
  about you know, the type of culture he plays. You know Italiano ball,
• 1:02:01
  you know Italian is the next whatever, like enough of that and and
• 1:02:05
  and you know, you know, boost up that trophy cabinet a bit.
• 1:02:09
  These managers have the opportunity to do so, uh, and I'm hopeful to
• 1:02:14
  see what happens with that. But yeah, it's it's it's it's gonna be
• 1:02:20
  fun. And and I hope these Italian teams don't shoop the bed like they
• 1:02:23
  did last year in terms of we had how many how many finalists in or
• 1:02:28
  how many semi finalists and how many finalists and we lost in all all sets
• 1:02:31
  of an all three finals. So uh, we don't want another repeat of
• 1:02:37
  that. And hopefully for for freely uh to to have these teams progressing to
• 1:02:45
  these finals and hopefully take a trophy home, it would be nice. I
• 1:02:52
  want an all Italian final just for the storyline. I believe that if there's
• 1:02:55
  any team that's buying into the US right now, Alma is doing a very
• 1:02:59
  good job of it. Players really do have, uh, they seem to
• 1:03:01
  have like a trust in him, and they do feel like as if like
• 1:03:05
  they're they have a new life to them that they're you know, they're they're
• 1:03:08
  finding they're finding ways to succeed. Manchini is a player renewed, it's been
• 1:03:15
  is a player renewed. Tammy's getting back in form. It's it's a different
• 1:03:19
  Roma, uh compared to Roma of six months ago. It's and it's not
• 1:03:23
  nothing to lose as well. And I'm not hitting on Moino like I'm not
• 1:03:27
  hitting on Mourinho at all this like I loved Mourinho as as the listeners know.
• 1:03:31
  It's just you can't deny the fact that motivational wise, they're a completely
• 1:03:35
  different team. So if there's a team that can probably you know, you
• 1:03:38
  know, take a stab at Levuson's like crazy run right now, it's probably
• 1:03:44
  a Roma, especially this because there there's such an X factor team, Like
• 1:03:50
  I know they're confident going into the game, then probably they have the full
• 1:03:53
  right to be confident going into the game. But I don't think Alma is
• 1:03:58
  going to be that much of a pushover team as Lever Cousin thinks they are
• 1:04:01
  going to be. You know. So I would love to see Alta Marseille.
• 1:04:04
  I was sorry. I would love to see Atalanta beat Marseille and have
• 1:04:08
  a Roman at the final. I'd be sick. That'd be crazy. Uh,
• 1:04:12
  it would be something really fun to watch and I think, uh it
• 1:04:15
  would speak volumes for it. It's Italian soccer. If if that actually happens,
• 1:04:19
  So my heart wants that to be the final. Logically speaking, level
• 1:04:25
  Coast is the heavy favorites, but upsets happened in these competitions, spark that
• 1:04:30
  bus, there's no yea, so so we're good. Uh yeah, I
• 1:04:39
  think, uh that's a lot of it's gonna be interesting game. I feel
• 1:04:46
  like Atalanta always has U's number. But uh, you know it's one age
• 1:04:55
  like you said, yeah, like you said, they haven't won a trophy.
• 1:04:58
  I mean even you know you've been them in the final, was it
• 1:05:01
  three year? Three years ago at Tolanto? They lost Tolato was at twenty
• 1:05:05
  nineteen. So they're a bit snake bitten in these Cope Itali finals. But
• 1:05:11
  you know, you never know. It's it's been three years since us are
• 1:05:15
  two years since you've played in a COPE Italian final, which they lost to
• 1:05:17
  Inter obviously the year before twenty twenty one they beat that Atlanta. Uh,
• 1:05:23
  they have experience, and la Re has experienced. He won what was it
• 1:05:27
  twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, four years in
• 1:05:30
  a row COPE Talent finals all played in Rome. So it's gonna be back
• 1:05:33
  there in May fifteenth. Guys, I figured out why the city had the
• 1:05:38
  leader weeks in May White Atalanta. Fear in Atlanta, far in Tina can't
• 1:05:42
  play that week, or at least they can't schedule it right now. It's
• 1:05:45
  because those those two weeks are the europe League and Conference League finals. So
• 1:05:48
  if Atlanta, if you're in Tinah play in those finals, you know,
• 1:05:54
  they can't schedule it those weeks. Obviously, if they don't make it opens
• 1:05:59
  up a whole new schedule opportunity for the city. Yeah, but yeah,
• 1:06:02
  copy Italian. I'm excited for it. I mean this is for me.
• 1:06:04
  I think this is like a sendof It could be a perfect sendoff for Legry.
• 1:06:09
  You know, when the when the copy Taliah, you know, thank
• 1:06:11
  you very much. You know, time to move on. But the way
• 1:06:15
  they're playing, it's gonna be tough. I I wouldn't be surprised if it
• 1:06:19
  goes to like extra timer penalties, though I don't know classic that that's that
• 1:06:24
  that'll be. I forget that's when. That's fifteen May fifteenth, So two
• 1:06:30
  weeks from now, two weeks away, yeah, two weeks from now,
• 1:06:34
  well, two weeks from Wednesday. Yeah, all right, No, I
• 1:06:39
  think I think I think it's it's a bigger game. You know, it's
• 1:06:45
  it's a it's a competition that I think. You know, you here is
• 1:06:48
  old obviously in the last like let's say ten years or so. But you
• 1:06:54
  know, at the linet, like I just finished saying, here's your opportunity
• 1:06:58
  to bring something home some trophy wise, why not when in the Tali final.
• 1:07:02
  So mostly but uh so I think that will do it for us,
• 1:07:10
  guys. Uh one thing I wanted to mention obviously, you know inter they
• 1:07:15
  had the their celebration game pretty much for the school that I mean, I
• 1:07:19
  know they didn't uh lift the trophy one second, guys, I just I
• 1:07:25
  and you pulled it up. Pulled this up because there was an all female
• 1:07:28
  referee crew, and I forget, I'm just gonna pull up their their names
• 1:07:32
  to give them a proper shout out. Gotta find the city at website,
• 1:07:36
  which is impossible to find on Google. It was so there was one of
• 1:07:41
  the first female refs, Ferrari the Caruso or whatever she was, the first
• 1:07:45
  female ref that broke into Refine I think was it was one of the head
• 1:07:50
  refs and shod her her her you know, her team alongside him. But
• 1:07:58
  yeah, the name, yeah, exactly, just uh, internet is slow,
• 1:08:09
  apparently perfect time to be slow. I don't know if you guys ever
• 1:08:12
  have to look up stats on the city website, but you Google City,
• 1:08:15
  I like their actual website is like the eighth result on on Google, which
• 1:08:19
  is like it's crazy, you know, search up NFL, search up NHL,
• 1:08:24
  like you know, their their websites are are are first right there,
• 1:08:28
  and you could barely go on the website. It's so slow. I can't
• 1:08:31
  even open pages. Yeah, typical, typical. I think it was,
• 1:08:43
  uh, what is the name Maria Maria something? I got the match report
• 1:08:51
  here, guys, Yeah, Maria Maria. So, Maria sol Putia is
• 1:08:57
  the referee, so she's been in the league for a while. Francesca di
• 1:09:00
  Monte was the assistant, and uh the other assistant Didiana Trashati. So congratula
• 1:09:06
  three of them the first time it's there's been three women as a referee in
• 1:09:11
  the City that match. Obviously, Uh, Maria Sol she's been around for
• 1:09:16
  about a year or two now refereing City games. You know, she's worked
• 1:09:19
  her way up obviously, City City d City Chief City. Yeah, so
• 1:09:24
  you know, she she's definitely earned it. You know, cool to see
• 1:09:27
  her. Crew two and they got what was it called, I forget the
• 1:09:31
  name when all the players stand and clapp the not the bridge of honor,
• 1:09:35
  uh the guard, the guard of the Guard of Honor. They got it.
• 1:09:40
  They got it from the Torino player players, mainly because the to Reno
• 1:09:43
  players were getting it alight giving already to the Inter players. So you know,
• 1:09:47
  congrats to them, obviously, Inter Uh, you know, we would
• 1:09:51
  have we would have liked to have a guest thought to talk about Inter obviously
• 1:09:55
  unfortunately couldn't make it. But they had their schoolto celebrations, you know,
• 1:10:00
  mean line was draped in blue and black, a lot of people out in
• 1:10:03
  the dormal, a lot of celebration. Yeah, that's it, Like,
• 1:10:09
  you know, they deserve to party, and they'll there'll be another celebration when
• 1:10:12
  they left the trophy at the end of the season. But but yeah,
• 1:10:15
  that's pretty much. I just wanted to give that shout out to to the
• 1:10:17
  referees. Yeah, I know, it's it's well said, and I think
• 1:10:21
  I'm glad we we had that had the time to include that, because you
• 1:10:26
  know this, these are barriers being broken, uh in our game. So
• 1:10:30
  we hope to see see more of this, you know, them getting maybe
• 1:10:34
  a bit more important games as well, going down the down into the future,
• 1:10:39
  and we're just more games, would would would be nice to for start,
• 1:10:43
  So happy for them, Happy for for for said he had to make
• 1:10:46
  this happen. And and uh, you know, seeing these uh you know,
• 1:10:50
  female referees, I guess I breaking down these barriers and and hopefully inspiring
• 1:10:55
  you know, other young girls to to to pick this, uh pick this
• 1:10:59
  up up and and and maybe uh you know, see themselves there one day
• 1:11:02
  as well, not only on the pitch as a player, but maybe if
• 1:11:05
  that's not the path that you know fits fits yourself, you know, fits
• 1:11:11
  you you and your abilities. Maybe they're the refereeing world is and we've got
• 1:11:15
  to we're glad to see it. And we hope for for not only maybe
• 1:11:19
  this crew, but maybe more crews and more women referees, uh, you
• 1:11:24
  know, get in there and and like I said, break down these barriers.
• 1:11:28
  So yeah, happy for them. But I think that's pretty much all
• 1:11:30
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• 1:11:32
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