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Tuesday 3pm hour 05/05/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Election Day. It's Tuesday, May 5th. It's 68 degrees.
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  Speaker 1: News radio, windy out there, incidentally. 68 degrees, overcast. We
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  Speaker 1: had spit a little bit of rain this morning in
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  Speaker 1: my neck of the woods. Then it dried up. And
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  Speaker 1: so it looks like it will rain again later. It
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  Speaker 1: will rain again later. But it's windy and definitely windy
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  Speaker 1: out there. And a little bit chilly. Anyway, good afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: 3.06 in the afternoon. Ron Furb with you until 7 tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Here on News Radio 570 WKBN. Always honored that you
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  Speaker 1: tuned in. This is Election Day. Sad part is that
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  Speaker 1: they say it's the primary season and only about 25%
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  Speaker 1: of registered voters will show up and pull a ballot.
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  Speaker 1: And I went and voted today. They asked for my
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  Speaker 1: driver's license. I said, that's racist, isn't it? But they
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  Speaker 1: asked for my driver's license. Had to give an ID
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  Speaker 1: to vote. How about that? And Then I went and voted.
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  Speaker 1: I did my thing. Are you ready for this? Are
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  Speaker 1: you sitting down? Are you ready? Are you ready for this?
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  Speaker 1: Are you sure? When I got my ballot today, when
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  Speaker 1: I got my ballot today, I voted for all the taxes. What?
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  Speaker 1: What did he say? What? What did he say? I
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  Speaker 1: said I voted for all the renewals in Austintown. Why
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  Speaker 1: did I do that? Why did you do that? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you why I did it. It's because they
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  Speaker 1: were all... Well, I voted for the county road tax,
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  Speaker 1: Genetti's renewal there. That's a sales tax, just so you know.
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  Speaker 1: That's a quarter percent sales tax. In my 41 years
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  Speaker 1: of spending time with you, I've never seen more paving
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  Speaker 1: done in this county. And the dedication from a county
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  Speaker 1: engineer like I have from this particular county engineer. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Pat Giannetti, when he went to that quarter percent sales tax,
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  Speaker 1: said that will not be used for raises. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to use this to pave roads. Percentage of the money
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  Speaker 1: we raise will go to your townships, Boardman, Austintown. So
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  Speaker 1: it will surplus their paving budgets so you can get
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  Speaker 1: more roads paved in your townships, Jackson Township, all the
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  Speaker 1: townships that are out there. And then we're going to use, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: the bulk of it to fix these county roads, many
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  Speaker 1: of which haven't been touched for years and years and years.
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  Speaker 1: And so you got a lot of paving that was
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  Speaker 1: getting done, more than I've ever seen in my time
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  Speaker 1: in the community. And obviously, it gets difficult when oil
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  Speaker 1: is so expensive because, I don't know if you know this,
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  Speaker 1: but asphalt is oil-based. And consequently, if those prices go up,
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  Speaker 1: you can do only so many road miles. But if
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  Speaker 1: they come down, it extends how many road miles you
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  Speaker 1: can pave. But anyway, you're getting your money's worth out
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  Speaker 1: of that quarter percent sales tax. You don't even notice it.
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  Speaker 1: And that's a renewal. And I supported that. And quite frankly,
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  Speaker 1: Austintown Township has some renewals for the road department as well.
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  Speaker 1: They are renewals for your roads in a township. So
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  Speaker 1: there you have it. I mean, they're not an increase
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  Speaker 1: in taxes, but roads are important. And so Genetti's, the
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  Speaker 1: countywide tax I voted for, Again, continuing, it's quarter percent.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even notice it. And the property taxes, those
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  Speaker 1: two are fairly important in Auston Township when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to the roads there. So I voted to continue with those.
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  Speaker 1: I vote against the ones that don't make a lick
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  Speaker 1: of sense, like the property tax for the library. I
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  Speaker 1: never vote for that. I never vote for that. But
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  Speaker 1: my roads, got to have roads. Got to drive on them.
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  Speaker 1: Tired of chuck holes. Got to get them fixed. And
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  Speaker 1: that costs money. And with these high oil prices, it
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  Speaker 1: costs more than ever. So anyway, make sure you go
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  Speaker 1: out and cast your ballot today. It's a primary. So
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  Speaker 1: you can see in whatever areas that you're in. Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: you vote for... Well, just go on out and vote.
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  Speaker 1: Be an informed voter. That's all you can do. Do
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  Speaker 1: your best. Be an informed voter. And what else do
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  Speaker 1: I have for you? I want to talk about the
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  Speaker 1: economy at some point today. Think about where we would
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  Speaker 1: be if this war never happened, economically speaking. If this
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  Speaker 1: war never happened and $ 5 gas wasn't the case, just
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  Speaker 1: think of where... we would be economically speaking versus where
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  Speaker 1: we are now. And I'm going to hopefully get into
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  Speaker 1: later in the program. Economically speaking, I do not have
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  Speaker 1: a rosy scenario for you. You're on air.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Ron, how are you doing today?
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  Speaker 1: I'm well.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, real quick, like, you know, I've been listening to
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  Speaker 2: you for probably over 30 years. I used to sit
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  Speaker 2: there and listen to you with my mom, and she
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  Speaker 2: died in 93. So it's been a long time since
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  Speaker 2: I've been listening to you. And over that time, I've
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  Speaker 2: heard people call in about one person. They didn't like
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  Speaker 2: what they said, and this.
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  Speaker 1: Person didn't like what they said.
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  Speaker 2: And you've got that banter going back and forth, which
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  Speaker 2: brings me to yesterday and your boy Ted DeCee. He
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  Speaker 2: was so far off base for him to say that
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  Speaker 2: he's got police involved. He broadcasted where the boss lady's
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  Speaker 2: house is. I didn't know whether to laugh. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it was, you know, he needs to grow a pair. Seriously,
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  Speaker 2: he's acting like a baby. JJ had it right yesterday
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  Speaker 2: when he said, how old is he? My question is,
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  Speaker 2: what grade is he in? I just cannot believe that
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  Speaker 2: he got on. And then he told you, he said, Ron,
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  Speaker 2: this starts with, this stops today and it starts with you.
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  Speaker 2: What does that mean? Does that mean you're not going
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  Speaker 2: to let her call?
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  Speaker 1: No, that absolutely does not mean that at all. Here's
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  Speaker 1: what it means. As I said to him when he called,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, there's two different things. Just so you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's what you hear on what they call terrestrial radio,
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  Speaker 1: your regular radio, and what you hear on the iHeart app.
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  Speaker 1: You follow me? Here's a little-known secret. Are you ready
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  Speaker 1: for this? That if you're listening on the iHeart app...
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  Speaker 1: When we dump out swear words and certain things? Are
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  Speaker 1: you ready? That you wouldn't hear on the radio? You
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  Speaker 1: can still hear them on the app. You follow me?
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  Speaker 3: I hear it all the time.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, because that's... Because the... The swearing and that kind
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  Speaker 1: of stuff, we can't have it on terrestrial radio, but
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if it's on the app and that
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  Speaker 1: kind of stuff. So it's kind of, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to say it's the same feed, but people hear different things.
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  Speaker 1: But here's what I say to all of that. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: and I do not, I want to hear what each
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  Speaker 1: and every person's opinion is. Okay. And whether I agree
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  Speaker 1: or disagree with it, that's what, that's at least what
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  Speaker 1: this program is all about. What is your thoughts? What
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  Speaker 1: are your views? I do not. And it's troubled me
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  Speaker 1: long before that particular situation. I do not particularly care
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  Speaker 1: for people attacking callers on a personal basis. And I
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  Speaker 1: can think of no one, I'll be blunt with you,
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  Speaker 1: I can think of two callers that get attacked and
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  Speaker 1: I said to them, I'm not going to allow that
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  Speaker 1: to have people. You can disagree with their opinions, but
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  Speaker 1: when you start calling them callers, When you start attacking
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  Speaker 1: them on a personal level, when people attack J.J. the
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  Speaker 1: liberal or people attack Fort Lauderdale Frank, that's where I
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  Speaker 1: draw the line. In other words, you can disagree with
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  Speaker 1: what their comments are, what their views are, and that's
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  Speaker 1: okay for you to disagree with that. But it's not
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  Speaker 1: okay for you to attack them on a personal basis.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought J.J. 's comments yesterday were interesting because
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  Speaker 1: I can't think of any caller that's ever taken more
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  Speaker 1: guff than J.J. the liberal. Can you, caller?
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  Speaker 2: No, and you know what, Ron? There are times where
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  Speaker 2: I've listened to... Your boy, Ted, call in and complain
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  Speaker 2: about JJ. He complains about Frank from Fort Lauderdale. Even yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: he complained about Richard, the pharmacist. He didn't like what
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  Speaker 2: he had to say. But the minute somebody calls in..
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  Speaker 1: Well, now, wait a minute. I don't disagree if he
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  Speaker 1: was disagreeing with Richard, the pharmacist, voting process. That was fair.
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  Speaker 1: You can disagree with somebody's opinion. I don't have a
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  Speaker 1: problem with that at all. That's all the boss lady's doing.
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  Speaker 2: She's just disagreeing with this candidate.
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  Speaker 1: Right, but here's where I made the mistake. When she
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  Speaker 1: came on the air and basically said... does he squat
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  Speaker 1: to pee? Well, that should have never, you know, she
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  Speaker 1: should have never engaged in that either. I mean, that,
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  Speaker 1: that was, that was wrong. And I won't tolerate that
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  Speaker 1: from her. And, and it's just something that from my standpoint, listen,
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  Speaker 1: I love Ted, the conservative. I love his calls. I
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  Speaker 1: love his thought process and, and what he has to say.
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  Speaker 1: And I enjoy the boss lady and what she has
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  Speaker 1: to say. But by God, I'm not going to engage
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  Speaker 1: in people personally attacking callers in that fashion. It is
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  Speaker 1: not going to happen. And let me tell you, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when she said that, you know, that's insulting. Deal with
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  Speaker 1: his thoughts and his opinions. They are both Republicans. They
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  Speaker 1: both view the commissioner race differently, obviously, who she supports
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  Speaker 1: and who he supports. And it's, and it's, okay to
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  Speaker 1: discuss your candidate and your thinking and your reasoning with
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  Speaker 1: that as well. And we go from there. That was
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  Speaker 1: my point. And quite frankly, I take it all personally.
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  Speaker 1: in that sense, as constructive criticism, because I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to allow that to continue to happen.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, Ron, you said about her before, she's harmless.
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  Speaker 2: She's absolutely harmless. She's 5'1, 110 pounds, soaking wet.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: And he's attacking her like she's some animal. She doesn't
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  Speaker 2: fight with pigs.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, Ted. Grow up. Listen, I don't want him...
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  Speaker 1: But she started it with some of her insults towards him, too.
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  Speaker 1: So it takes two to tango, but I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to let it continue. I know.
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  Speaker 2: That's what JJ said yesterday. He said, listen, I don't
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  Speaker 2: understand Ted, because he throws back stuff at her, too.
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  Speaker 2: But the idea that he said... He's going to meet
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  Speaker 2: the po-po.
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  Speaker 1: In her driveway? I don't think that's going to mean anything.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so either.
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  Speaker 1: He needs to grow up.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Grow up, Ted.
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  Speaker 1: Well, everybody can have a bad day. Now, I can't
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  Speaker 1: control what people do on social media. But I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you something. Social media, to a large extent, is highly
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  Speaker 1: overrated media. It's highly overrated, and a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: people that are on there are what they call these
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  Speaker 1: keyboard warriors and that kind of stuff. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: tip the cards here, and I don't know if I'm
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  Speaker 1: breaking the rules or something like that I should be.
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  Speaker 1: You know, like you'd get these people that would send,
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  Speaker 1: how would I put it, emails here to the, radio
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  Speaker 1: station or to me and that kind of stuff. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that only gets you on the radar screen. In other words,
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  Speaker 1: in other words, those emails don't get deleted. They go into,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, ever since some of these, um, How do
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  Speaker 1: you put it? I don't want to just say the
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  Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk assassination, but before that, there's been problems in
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  Speaker 1: the industry with people that email certain types of things.
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  Speaker 1: And they all go in a separate file and they
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  Speaker 1: all go for further review. It just gets you on
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  Speaker 1: the radar screen. So I don't know if I'm breaking
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  Speaker 1: the rules to tell people that or not, but I
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  Speaker 1: like to be straightforward with people. If you don't have anything, Decent,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, to email. My suggestion is it probably is
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  Speaker 1: best not to email them because you get on the
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  Speaker 1: radar screen. Let me just put it that way. They
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  Speaker 1: don't go away. Let me put it that way.
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  Speaker 2: Let me say this much. I'm on Facebook. I'm friends
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  Speaker 2: with her on Facebook. We're both part of the same
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  Speaker 2: political group fighting property tax and all that. And I
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  Speaker 2: challenge anybody to go on her page or our political
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  Speaker 2: page and find out once, once, where she criticized him.
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  Speaker 2: All she ever said was Ted DeCee. In fact, she
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  Speaker 2: was out with her family, and a guy came up
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  Speaker 2: to her and said, I heard you on the radio.
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  Speaker 2: Would you like to know who Ted DeCee is? She
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  Speaker 2: didn't do any investigating. She didn't really care, but he
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  Speaker 2: told her anyway. Okay, but now he goes and looks
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  Speaker 2: up where her street is.
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  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I just, you know, I'm just, listen, he's
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  Speaker 2: an okay caller. I don't think he's anything next to
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  Speaker 2: Alec or Frank or Rich, but he's got to. He'll
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  Speaker 2: never be a county commissioner with that type of, you know,
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  Speaker 2: if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen, dude.
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  Speaker 2: My God, if he was Geno, he would have been
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  Speaker 2: crying already by now. The way we beat up Geno.
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  Speaker 1: Listen, live and learn and move on from it. Let's
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  Speaker 1: have a certain degree of decorum. I mean, it takes
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  Speaker 1: two to tango. She should not have said some of
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  Speaker 1: the things that she said towards him and said, And
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to take that as constructive criticism from my standpoint.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm just not going to allow it. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to allow it. And the people who get it
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  Speaker 1: the most, I'll set those two aside because really they
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  Speaker 1: will correct their behavior. And I will say the part
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  Speaker 1: that always disturbed me more than anything was when people
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  Speaker 1: personally would attack J.J. the liberal. Because JJ's entitled, it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't matter whether I agree or disagree with him, he's
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  Speaker 1: entitled to his thoughts and his beliefs and his views
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  Speaker 1: and to express those. And you have people like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: they hate him because he doesn't agree with their views. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it is America. People have different views based on their perspective,
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  Speaker 1: their economic situation, and what's going on in their life.
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  Speaker 1: And that's okay with me. Well, you know, Ron, this.
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  Speaker 2: Goes back further than... before she said that about him.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Well, I don't want to dwell on it. I
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  Speaker 1: just don't want to go on.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to go on dwelling on it. I
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  Speaker 1: want to move on from it. You know, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to, I'm not going to bring it up with Ted.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to bring it up with her. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to discuss it further. It's just going to be,
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  Speaker 1: you got, you got something to add to the program
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  Speaker 1: and say there are no personal attacks. Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Good.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks. And.com slash rules. Youngstown's news, weather, and talk station,
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  Speaker 1: 570 WKBN. And Ron Verb from the Kingdom of Mahoning
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  Speaker 1: on NewsRadio 570 WKBN, and you're on the air.
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  Speaker 4: Hello.
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  Speaker 3: Can you come back to me?
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  Speaker 1: I'm coming back to you.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: You're welcome.
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  Speaker 6: Hello?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, can I?
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  Speaker 2: Can you just come back? I'm sorry, can you come back?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I'll come back to you. You're on the air.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 7: I just choked on a piece of coconut.
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  Speaker 1: Well, really, do you want me to get over to
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  Speaker 1: your house and Heimlich you? No, no. I'll be there,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: and I'll Heimlich you and save your life. As long
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  Speaker 1: as I can do it during a commercial break. I've
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  Speaker 1: got to get to your place and back in five
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  Speaker 1: minutes or less.
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  Speaker 7: I'm too far away anyway.
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  Speaker 1: And you're a walking dead man.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I am.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I..
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  Speaker 7: I'm going in for heart surgery here pretty soon.
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  Speaker 4: But anyway.
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  Speaker 1: How old are you?
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  Speaker 4: I'm almost 80.
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  Speaker 1: 80 years old. All right.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What do they got to do? Bypass or just stents?
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  Speaker 4: Well, they're not sure until they do exploratory, but probably
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  Speaker 4: a new valve, a new flapper.
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  Speaker 1: What's your symptoms? Okay.
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  Speaker 4: Too many to list.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. Well, good luck to you at 80
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  Speaker 1: years old.
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  Speaker 4: Well, anyway, and I still work. But, you know, all
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  Speaker 4: these people that are complaining about gas prices and everything
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  Speaker 4: that's going on right now.
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  Speaker 3: I was here.
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  Speaker 7: I built a home during Jimmy Carter's years.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And..
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  Speaker 7: Gas prices.
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  Speaker 5: Jumped overnight 50%.
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  Speaker 4: That's if you could get it.
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  Speaker 7: We used to have to wait in line, and you
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  Speaker 7: could only get so much.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Listen, I know interest rates were extremely high.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, 18%.
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  Speaker 1: But that doesn't make it acceptable.
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  Speaker 4: We went over budget by $ 7, 000. And I went..
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  Speaker 7: To get an extension on a loan, mortgage rate 18%.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 4: So I had to sell.
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  Speaker 5: I had to sell because I couldn't afford it.
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  Speaker 7: But, you know, a lot of the problems that.
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  Speaker 5: We're dealing with now have all been caused by other administrations.
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  Speaker 7: And the thing is that..
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  Speaker 4: As far as the economy is.
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  Speaker 5: Concerned, I blame the American people themselves. You know, when
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  Speaker 5: my grandparents came to this country from Czechoslovakia, even up
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  Speaker 5: until the old age.
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  Speaker 4: Until they passed, if they went to buy something, if
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  Speaker 4: it didn't say..
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  Speaker 7: Made in USA on it. It was put back on
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  Speaker 7: the shelf.
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  Speaker 1: Stand by for a minute. Stand by, old-timer. I'll get
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: back to you in a minute. News Radio 570 WKBN
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: and Ron Furb, back in a minute. News Radio 570 WKBN.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Let me go right back to you, old-timer. Listen, with
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: all due respect, I don't live in the past like
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of people do. I lived through those days
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: like you did. And I could sit here and say
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: people that are bellyaching about 6% interest rates on home loans,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I refinanced to get down to 6%. We thought 6%
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: was a pretty good rate because– You're correct. We were
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: having 13%, 12%, 11%, 10% interest rates that was taking place.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, there are many variables on how much you
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: made and the inflation, how much a house actually cost.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: versus what it costs today and the inflation. There's a
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: lot of variables there. So I don't know how comparable
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: any of that is, but we were happy to get
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: it down to a 6% rate. But that was then
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: and this is now. All I can say to you, though,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: and I want to say, let me say this to you.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: There is nothing good going on. Economically, I think the
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: economy is in a difficult situation right now. So I
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: don't care about Jimmy Carter. I lived it. I don't
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: compare it to today because a lot of things have
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: changed since then to today. It's difficult today for young
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: people to buy a home because of the inflated price
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: of them, because of the burden of property taxes on
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: top of the interest rate when you're financing that much
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: more money. And it's more difficult to put 20 percent down.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Five dollar gasoline. I don't give a damn how anybody
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: tries to justify it. I'm here to tell you I
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: would be complaining about it if Biden was president. And
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and not complain about
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: it because Trump is president. It is devastating the economy.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: And I go back to say, if this war didn't happen,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: where do you think the economy would be when we
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: were at about 250 a gallon and all the economic
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: indicators weren't a good place? I think the economy would
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: be a much better place and all of our finances
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: would be in a better place. I don't think the
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: economy right now is in a good place at all.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people are struggling because
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: of that. Property taxes are too high. Electric rates have doubled.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Natural gas prices are too high. Now you throw gasoline
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: on top of that and the effect that it has
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: on everything else that comes from it. and the prices
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: that are going up. So I don't care about Jimmy Carter.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I deal with the here and now.
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: I realize that, and I don't either.
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: You lived through it, and you dealt with it. But
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: what I'm saying is all the problems we're having today
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: are because of other administrations all the way down. Iran,
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: something could have been done with them four presidents ago,
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: five presidents ago.
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: And nothing.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Now it comes down to.
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: Where it may be critical.
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: We don't know everything that the administration knows and Trump knows.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, there's no way for us to know that.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: But they had to be dealt with at some point.
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: And the thing is, as far as the economy is concerned,
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: it wouldn't be in a the problem that we have
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: with it if people wouldn't have bought Chinese products.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Well, that's easy to say, but a lot of stuff
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: is made in China, and it's not made in America
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: anymore these days.
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: If you never bought it to begin with, it wouldn't.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Be being sold.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Well, not necessarily. There's many arguments that are made for
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: foreign products that people say... Listen, I can go back
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: with you and remember when American cars were just pieces
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: of crap that would rust out. And the American car
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: industry changed because of Japanese cars. Because of how satisfied
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: people were with Toyota and Honda and how dependable they were.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: It made the American auto industry much better. Because the
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: American auto industry acknowledged... that once you switch to those brands,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: they could never get you to come back, so they
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: had to step up their game. So competition isn't necessarily
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: a bad thing. Some economists argue that if you buy
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: something that costs you less because of competition, you have
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: more money in your pocket to buy other stuff or
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: to have a better lifestyle.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: Well, the only problem is it puts your neighbor out
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: of work.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: That is true. So less people working, less.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: People paying into the tax structure.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: That is true. That is absolutely true. There's two sides
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: to every story, to say the least. But there's arguments
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: that can be made on both sides. Listen, I'm for
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: trade on an even playing field. I say a million times,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: we cannot compete with slave wage nations at all. We
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: can't compete with India and China and Vietnam and this
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff.
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: But..
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: The other economist would argue to you, they would say, well,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: if we didn't have that coming in, how much would
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: you be paying for a T-shirt or a pair of shorts?
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: It could be astronomically more. Or even as expensive as
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: your iPhone is, how much more would it cost if
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: we didn't have those options?
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: Probably not much more.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I do think that people would think,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: minimum wage should be $ 15 an hour, and it's pretty
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: much there. The marketplace has driven it up there. Well,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: does that not also say the person that's running the
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: facility has to raise their price? So if I'm paying
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: you more, I got to raise prices to cover the
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: cost of your wages. And if inflation goes up, everybody's
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: got to charge more. I mean, it just... Inflation is
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: a big problem. I go back to say this economy
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: was soaring.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: People working in the workplace.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Well, there's going to be even less of them with AI.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm not.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Right. You're 80 years older.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: 100%.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: You think about A1. All right, old-timer. Stay healthy. I
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: appreciate it. You're on the air.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Hey, Ron, you did a great job telling that caller,
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: don't blame the economy on China.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Not now. The current economy that's going on right now,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: and the problems are solely as a result, in large
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: part due to the situation with the war in Iran,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I should say.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Well, you know when you send low-paying jobs to China,
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: you create higher-paying import jobs in America. So maybe his
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: neighbor was out of work, but his neighbor should... improve
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: his skills, and get a higher-paying job because he'll have
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: more opportunities.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't want to get into all of this.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I said a million times the best social program is
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: a good job, but the reality is you can't fight technology.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: AI is going to replace a lot of white-collar jobs,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: and there's not much you're going to be able to
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: do about it other than figure out what to retrain
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: and what to go do. and adjust to it as
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: time goes on. You're going to have to make an adjustment.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Well, the Chinese economy is doing great. All my Chinese
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: stocks and Asian stocks are going way up. And China's
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: economy is going strong.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know that it's going strong. Some of
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: what I happen to see doesn't necessarily indicate that. China's
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: economy is directly related to the American economy, too. We
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: are their biggest consumer of goods. So they need a
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: decent economy in the United States of America. Listen, I
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: will say I don't believe the economy in general is
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: in the United States of America. I don't at the
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: present time think the economy is doing very well at all.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: I think that we have serious economic problems as we
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: speak today. And I don't make excuses for it. I'd
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: be just as critical if Biden was doing this. Trump,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter to me whether they're Republicans or Democrats.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: There are serious issues with inflation that are going on
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: in America and continue to get worse. and energy prices.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: You tell me, Frank, if we continue to have people's
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: property taxes go up, if we continue to double the
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: charge for electricity, natural gas rates are still high, gasoline
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: now at $ 5 a gallon, and when you take a
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: look at diesel fuel and the inflation that comes from
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: passing those costs on, And the increases that go on,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: is that an economy in the United States of America
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: that's in good shape right now? And I don't think
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: it is.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Well, you're correct. China is dependent on the American economy.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: The American economy is dependent on China. But we're in
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: a global economy now. Everybody's dependent on everybody else. And
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: right now, this war in Iran... is doing damage to
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: the global economy.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Amen.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Except for Asia. Like I said before, when all the
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Persian Gulf countries had their oil infrastructure destroyed, all that
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: cash they had didn't go to America anymore. It's now
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: first has started flowing towards Thailand, and now it's going
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: to Hong Kong. That's probably the main reason why all
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: my Chinese stocks and mutual funds are just soaring, while
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: the American stock market is pretty much staying the same. Now,
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: NASDAQ and the S & P are at all-time record
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: highs today. And here's the news. Dow up nearly 400
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: points as oil pulls back. Well, you know, Ron, oil
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: may be pulling back, but... There's also another report that
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: says Trump wants to get out of this war, but
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: he says we're going to have to keep this war
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: going longer. The longer this war goes on, the more
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: damage we're going to have to the American economy. And
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: you know, the thing is, the United States only gets 6%
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: of their oil from the Persian Gulf. I want to
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: tell that previous caller, it's not previous administrations and it's
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: not Iran putting sanctions on our oil. it's because the
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: Federal Reserve continues to print money out of thin air.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: You know, prices are not going to go down until
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: the Federal Reserve contracts, does a contraction of the money supply.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: That's what most people don't understand. You know, we're a
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: nation of economic functional alerts, and I can understand because
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: We don't teach people economics in high school or college.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: I would start teaching people economics in second or third grade.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: When me and you went to school, didn't we have
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: to open a bank account and get our parents to
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: give us a dollar to open an account and learn
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: how to, you know, use a passbook, checkbook, and a
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: savings account? I think that was very smart.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: They get that type of education.
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: I was just reading this prior to going on. I
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: pass this along to you. Let me find it here.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Frank could get this. Gary Schilling, the legendary forecaster known
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: for his bearish accuracy in being fired from Merrill Lynch
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: for predicting the 1969-1970 recession, is sounding the alarm on
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: a 2026 economic collapse. In a recent interview with Business Insider,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Schilling warned that a U.S. recession is almost inevitable by
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: year end, driven by a frozen housing market, corporate investment indicators,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: and a weakening consumer base. Stocks are very expensive, and
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: there probably is a major correction coming somewhere in the
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: relatively near future, Schilling said. A decline of 20 or
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: 30 percent is no big deal by historical standards, so
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I would say that's probably in the cards. I sort
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: of made a career looking for these hidden flaws, and
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I don't see anything right now that is just screaming
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: for a big sell-off, but that doesn't mean it isn't there,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: he added. Across America, real estate buyers and sellers have
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: been reluctant to make moves as interest rates remain elevated
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: and mortgage loan rates slowly tick down. There is also
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: a lack of affordable inventory and reports of rising foreclosures
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: signaling homeowners continue to get squeezed. Schilling also pointed to
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: what he described as a collapse in capital expenditures or
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: large investments that companies expect will last for years and
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: boost overall future values. Business Insider cited that broader capital
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: expenditures grew just 3.9% by the end of 2025 compared
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: with a pandemic peak of 24% cap growth. The Economist
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: spotlighted the state of the U.S. consumer as the third
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: pillar leading to a recession with the Federal Reserve preferred
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: inflation gauge remaining stubbornly high in March, going up 0.7%
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: month over month and up to 3.5% from a year ago.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: When it comes to economic solutions, Schilling said a downturn
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: could be prevented by fiscal stimulus or strengthening consumers, both
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: of which he thinks are unlikely. That's really on very
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: thin ice in terms of income. in terms of people's
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: willingness to spend. Other economists appear divided on economic outlook
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: for 2026. BNY Wealth, head of investment strategies and equities,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Alicia Levin, said no recession is coming on making money.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: With Charlie Payne last month, around the same time, billionaire
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: investor Leon Cooperman told Fox Business' Liz Klayman, that the U.S.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: is heading toward a recession. My own view is there's
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: a lot of problems out there. The market's too highly valued. Well,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: I could go on reading this. I was just reading
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: that prior to going on the air from these different
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: economic gurus. But it's simple math, and I put this
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: out there for everybody. You can't double somebody's electric rate.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: You can't go from 4.5 to 9. The cost of
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: electricity is doubled. The cost of natural gas remains high.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: The interest rates are people consider to be high at
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: six and a half percent. Housing prices are still inflated
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: to a large extent. And the burden of property taxes
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: and the inflation on groceries and everything else, insurance, you
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: name it. You can't have all of that stuff up
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: and think that. We're a consumer-based economy, that that's not
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: going to have an effect on the economy. If you
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: think it's not, then you've got blinders on. People only
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: have so much money.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad you read that, because I agree. And
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: I want to say to that previous caller, investment capital
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: will always seek the lowest cost of production anywhere in
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: the world. And if you try to do like Rich
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: the pharmacist saying, oh, I want to create a law,
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: where you can't export oil or anything, you're just going
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: to ask for smuggling.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. We did have a law against that.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Then we changed the law. I mean, sometimes you've got
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: to look at America from an American first standpoint. All
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to say is, and a lot of the
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Trumpsters get upset with this, think of how much better
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: off all of us would have been, economically speaking, if
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: this war would have never happened. Inflation was going down.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: The economic indicators were in a much better place. Gas
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: prices were down about $ 2. 50 a gallon. The economic indicators
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: were going in the right direction. That's been basically erased
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: by this. And we shall see how long this goes
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: on and how long people can tolerate this increase. And
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: that's not to say, as I like to emphasize, that
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Kamala Harris or Biden or any Democrat would be a
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: better choice. Hang on, Frank. I'll get back to him
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: and more of your calls straight ahead. We're on from
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: the Kingdom of Mahoning. Frank, let me ask you some
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: quick questions. Give me a yes or no answer. I'm
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: not optimistic on the American economy for the reasons I stated.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Energy costs too much. The huge and continuing growing debt
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: and deficits of the country. The burden of taxes. And
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: I'm not optimistic where our economy is in our country
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: at the present time. Are you? Yes or no?
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: I'm not optimistic. And Peter Schiff says rising oil prices
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: are not inflationary. They are recessionary, and Ron, I think
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: we might already be in recession, but the feds might
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: be manipulating the numbers because two quarters of negative economic
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: growth is the definition of recession.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: All right, follow-up quick question before I get a break
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: from my headlines. I think the economy would be in
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: a much better place had he never got to start
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: this war in the first place. Would you agree with
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: that or not?
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: Oh, definitely, and as long as we continue bombing Iranian
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: oil wells, once they cap those wells, oil droplets seep in.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: I got a break.
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: From ABC News, I'm Chuck Sievertson. Surveys of fuel pump
• 37:16
  Speaker 8: numbers show gasoline prices are now the highest since July 2022.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: $ 4.
• 37:20
  Speaker 8: 50 a gallon for a national average. ABC's Karen Travers
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: at the White House.
• 37:26
  Speaker 9: We have heard the president say repeatedly that as soon
• 37:28
  Speaker 9: as the war ends, gas prices are going to come
• 37:31
  Speaker 9: plummeting right back down to.
• 37:32
  Speaker 8: Where they were before the war started.
• 37:35
  Speaker 9: But experts and analysts continue to say that is just
• 37:38
  Speaker 9: not going to happen as quickly as he is saying.
• 37:40
  Speaker 9: It's going to take time for all of this to
• 37:42
  Speaker 9: snap back after how much this has been impacted because
• 37:45
  Speaker 9: of what's going on in the Strait of Hormuz. So
• 37:47
  Speaker 9: even if the president says this week the war is over,
• 37:50
  Speaker 9: we're not likely to see gas prices go down for
• 37:53
  Speaker 9: some time.
• 37:53
  Speaker 8: ABC's Karen Travers.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: The U.S.
• 37:55
  Speaker 8: Military, under what officials call Project Freedom, is ensuring safe
• 37:59
  Speaker 8: passage of commercial ships through the Strait of Hormuz. No
• 38:02
  Speaker 8: word yet how many shipping companies and their insurance carriers
• 38:06
  Speaker 8: will agree to it. Secretary of State Rubio announcing that
• 38:09
  Speaker 8: the U.S. would forward a new draft resolution before the U.N.
• 38:13
  Speaker 8: Security Council to defend freedom of navigation in the Strait
• 38:17
  Speaker 8: of Hormuz.
• 38:17
  Speaker 10: There is no scenario here in which if they decide
• 38:21
  Speaker 10: to join a ladder of escalation, they wind up getting
• 38:23
  Speaker 10: the last say. But our preference is for these straits
• 38:26
  Speaker 10: to be opened to the way they're supposed to be opened,
• 38:29
  Speaker 10: back to the way it was. Anyone can use it.
• 38:31
  Speaker 10: No mines in the water. Nobody paying tolls. That's what
• 38:34
  Speaker 10: we have to get back to, and that's the goal here.
• 38:36
  Speaker 8: To lower gasoline prices, Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear says he
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  Speaker 8: plans to keep the state gas tax at its current rate,
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  Speaker 8: stopping a small increase set for July. Isolating in their cabins,
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  Speaker 8: 150 passengers and crew on a Dutch cruise ship anchored
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  Speaker 8: off the coast of West Africa. Three passengers have died.
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  Speaker 8: At least four others are sick. Health officials say it's
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  Speaker 8: from hantavirus, usually spread by inhaling contaminated rodent droppings. Medical
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  Speaker 8: teams have just finished assessing three patients on board before
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  Speaker 8: evacuations as the World Health Organization. You're listening to ABC News.