Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: N.O.R.E & DJ EFN Talks Drink Champs Success, Hip-Hop Era's, Beef's & Backlash, DMX, Ye, Kodak Black + More
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Every day up week Click yours up the Breakfast Club.
- 0:05Speaker 1: I'm finish for y'all done.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Morning. Everybody's the j Envy just hilarious.
- 0:12Speaker 3: Charlamagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. Lawna Roses
- 0:15Speaker 3: here as well.
- 0:16Speaker 4: We got some special guests in the building, indeed, and
- 0:18Speaker 4: our eighties back ladies and gentlemen.
- 0:22Speaker 2: Jan he's.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Celebrating ten years time. You're not doing a big.
- 0:38Speaker 5: Congratulations game episode one hundred plus episodes. We got a
- 0:43Speaker 5: special episode on June eighteenth, dropping will Revolt Big up
- 0:48Speaker 5: to the Vault. We've had a wonderful relationship and I'm
- 0:53Speaker 5: just I'm just I'm happy, man, Like you know what
- 0:55Speaker 5: I mean. Like a lot of people don't get to
- 0:58Speaker 5: do what I did, like you know, go back to
- 1:00Speaker 5: the beginning, nor like they could go back to the
- 1:02Speaker 5: initial idea concept of launching a podcast two year ago.
- 1:07Speaker 1: Nowadays rappers do it. It seems like nothing. Ten years ago,
- 1:10Speaker 1: it was like what you do? Know what I got?
- 1:12Speaker 1: Oh y'all money. Initially I was just saying this to Ef. Damn.
- 1:17Speaker 1: I was aggressing with my bad.
- 1:21Speaker 6: You gotta go back to militimate crazy World Rady. Yeah,
- 1:23Speaker 6: we we had serious.
- 1:25Speaker 5: Before them, and then God bless you know Prodigy rest
- 1:29Speaker 5: in peace. Uh, Prodigy wrote a book and I rebundled coming.
- 1:32Speaker 1: Here, we remember, yes, yes, Bundle coming here.
- 1:36Speaker 5: And and then I swear to God, I was in Canada.
- 1:40Speaker 5: I was just walking through and the person came up
- 1:42Speaker 5: to me. It was like breakfast club and I was like,
- 1:44Speaker 5: wait a minute, Like I was like, I either owe
- 1:46Speaker 5: them money or they owe me money, like I said,
- 1:48Speaker 5: and the people kept calling me breakfast club, and I
- 1:51Speaker 5: was just like, holy moly, guacamly.
- 1:53Speaker 1: Like like maybe I got something here. So then I
- 1:57Speaker 1: he was he was trying to get me to do
- 1:59Speaker 1: a podcast for like he didn't know what a podcast.
- 2:03Speaker 7: Hip hop.
- 2:04Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not a nerd, like you know
- 2:05Speaker 1: what I mean. Had to come back.
- 2:07Speaker 6: Jack had to come back Big tax Stones and Jackstone
- 2:12Speaker 6: Ice who did radio and radio I see.
- 2:15Speaker 5: Was the first, the first rapper, the first podcast, first
- 2:19Speaker 5: podcast and and what the but I believe the first
- 2:24Speaker 5: podcast was was Cyper and Rosenberg.
- 2:27Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm allowed to say that.
- 2:31Speaker 6: And Joe Buden was doing Joe.
- 2:32Speaker 5: Biden and then Combat Jack and uh was way before
- 2:37Speaker 5: all right, yes, yes, yes, So for us to be
- 2:40Speaker 5: ten years later and like you know what I mean,
- 2:42Speaker 5: like like I had a second career, third career, you
- 2:45Speaker 5: know what I mean if you count Reggae Throne, and
- 2:47Speaker 5: it's just like you know, you know, ten years, five
- 2:49Speaker 5: hundred episodes, you know what I'm saying, And now you've
- 2:52Speaker 5: got so many people who birthed through us, like you know, no,
- 2:55Speaker 5: I don't want to call them sons or something like that,
- 2:57Speaker 5: but you know, there's a lot of people who took
- 2:59Speaker 5: off four in a good way and they now now
- 3:02Speaker 5: they have now when I look, it's nothing for podcasts.
- 3:05Speaker 5: But when I first so that, when we first said
- 3:07Speaker 5: we were doing a podcast, people were looking at it.
- 3:09Speaker 1: They were like, man, something must be wrong with Nori.
- 3:11Speaker 8: Like why is he not he's not making music. He's
- 3:16Speaker 8: like yeah, and I understand that. But now I'm looking
- 3:19Speaker 8: at all of y'all like something you get to start going.
- 3:24Speaker 3: I've seen you. I think it was in Queens of
- 3:26Speaker 3: Brooklyn the other day. I think he was on stage performing.
- 3:28Speaker 3: Do you ever get the itch to go back to like,
- 3:30Speaker 3: now I'm gonna hit the stage, do a couple of tours,
- 3:32Speaker 3: do some new albums.
- 3:33Speaker 1: All right, that's a great question. Yeah, you know.
- 3:38Speaker 5: I did three shows in three years. Right, one L
- 3:42Speaker 5: called me for Rock de Bellis. You can't call. You
- 3:44Speaker 5: can't tell ll no, right, I can never tell all no.
- 3:49Speaker 5: And then Ice Tea called me for art rap and
- 3:53Speaker 5: I didn't get the bug back because there was other
- 3:58Speaker 5: artists on the show that you got rock, can you got?
- 3:59Speaker 5: Big Daddy came, so I know everybody's not there to
- 4:01Speaker 5: see me. But the other day Monster Energy have to
- 4:05Speaker 5: see the monsters and monsters. Uh Monster called me and
- 4:10Speaker 5: performed in Brooklyn and it was I believe it was
- 4:13Speaker 5: but Wick and everybody was there to see me.
- 4:16Speaker 1: That's it. And I was finally like, yo, you know what,
- 4:21Speaker 1: I'm gonna come back outside.
- 4:23Speaker 5: I was finally because you know, like again like we're
- 4:25Speaker 5: doing records though like that, I think you had a
- 4:27Speaker 5: hit a years ago with that for real joint. I'm
- 4:32Speaker 5: actually gonna drive. I gotta record with me Vibes, Cartel
- 4:35Speaker 5: and Todd Dollars Signs. I got a record with Doctor Dre.
- 4:38Speaker 5: I got a record with me and Capone first time
- 4:39Speaker 5: getting back in the studios with Doctor Dre Beat.
- 4:43Speaker 1: So I've been holding that, but I ain't gonna lie.
- 4:45Speaker 5: I've have been scared and that that that show in
- 4:49Speaker 5: Brooklyn really like, because again, when you're doing shows and
- 4:52Speaker 5: there's other people that's on that bill, they're not primarily
- 4:57Speaker 5: there for you.
- 4:59Speaker 1: There they're committing you, you know.
- 5:01Speaker 5: But I looked and I looked in the crowd, and
- 5:06Speaker 5: I'm sorry because you know, I make a lot of
- 5:08Speaker 5: gangs the music, or I made against the music.
- 5:10Speaker 1: When I seen the girls, I seen females like singing along,
- 5:15Speaker 1: and I was like, I missed this.
- 5:17Speaker 5: I was.
- 5:18Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I missed this, and the police
- 5:21Speaker 1: and then.
- 5:22Speaker 5: I got on stage and and I said, yo, I'm
- 5:25Speaker 5: getting off stage and I'm gonna walk through the crowd.
- 5:28Speaker 5: And the police from the Mayor's office came to me
- 5:30Speaker 5: and was like, you cannot do that. I don't know
- 5:33Speaker 5: who you think you are, sir, but you can't walk
- 5:35Speaker 5: through the and so we we we. I went in
- 5:39Speaker 5: the car and I'm the whole ride home, I was
- 5:42Speaker 5: just like, yo, all right, I needed to feel this love.
- 5:44Speaker 5: Sometimes you don't know you have the love until you
- 5:47Speaker 5: see it, you know what I'm saying, Like, so yeah,
- 5:49Speaker 5: i think I'm coming back outside.
- 5:53Speaker 6: Hold him to it because he always says this and hesitate.
- 5:58Speaker 1: Tell you something.
- 5:59Speaker 5: Let me tell you something. If you came out in
- 6:02Speaker 5: the nineties and you okay, it's we are scared because
- 6:07Speaker 5: this is a different eraror like let's just be clear,
- 6:10Speaker 5: like if it wasn't for that four four four album,
- 6:12Speaker 5: like this is this is like a different error. Like
- 6:16Speaker 5: I don't know how to cater to these youth. You
- 6:18Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like you know what I mean? Yes, yes,
- 6:22Speaker 5: what he's doing with massive pill but hit boy, Yeah,
- 6:26Speaker 5: but I ain't gonna lie. I was just sitting down
- 6:31Speaker 5: and somebody was talking to me and I just kept
- 6:33Speaker 5: it real. It was like, so why happen you drop music?
- 6:35Speaker 5: And I was just like, I'm scared. I wanted to
- 6:39Speaker 5: be honest with myself because it's like, just think about it.
- 6:43Speaker 5: If you get a certain quota, right, you get a
- 6:45Speaker 5: certain amount of money that you get for every show
- 6:49Speaker 5: you get. If you drop a dud album or you
- 6:52Speaker 5: drop something that doesn't work, that quote goes down, right.
- 6:56Speaker 5: So like if you look at.
- 6:57Speaker 1: Fab, you look at me, you look at.
- 6:59Speaker 5: I'm not saying Fab scared to drop music because I'm
- 7:02Speaker 5: saying b but I'm just putting fat in my category.
- 7:04Speaker 5: But we have a certain amount. We get certain like
- 7:08Speaker 5: fabtalls all all the time. So the thing about it
- 7:11Speaker 5: is when you got people like us, we I believe
- 7:16Speaker 5: I don't want to put anybody else in that category,
- 7:19Speaker 5: but yeah, if you if you can't relate to this generation.
- 7:23Speaker 5: But then, like I said, like yeah.
- 7:27Speaker 2: But you don't necessarily have to relate to generation.
- 7:30Speaker 1: So you learned that.
- 7:30Speaker 3: Now when I'm on the road and i'm doing shows,
- 7:34Speaker 3: I'm not doing the new generation.
- 7:36Speaker 2: I'm doing people thirty plus, forty plus, fifty plus that just.
- 7:39Speaker 3: Want to party, They just want to have a good time,
- 7:41Speaker 3: they just want to feel, just want to come outside.
- 7:43Speaker 1: Don't forget about us.
- 7:47Speaker 5: Of them that show in Brooklyn, I looked and like
- 7:51Speaker 5: I said, I looked in everybody pause and everyone's mouth
- 7:55Speaker 5: and everyone knew my words. And these records are twenty
- 7:58Speaker 5: five years like and they still homeboy, they still what
- 8:02Speaker 5: what condo? And I'm sitting back and I'm like, you
- 8:05Speaker 5: know what, this is my problem. The problem was I
- 8:07Speaker 5: was going to try to cater to the y ns.
- 8:10Speaker 1: No, Like I didn't. I don't know why.
- 8:14Speaker 5: But when I seen that, sometimes you just got to
- 8:16Speaker 5: see it. And when I saw that, I was like,
- 8:18Speaker 5: holy moly, guacamole. This is where I belong. Stick to
- 8:22Speaker 5: your stick to your crowd. And you know, they grew
- 8:24Speaker 5: up with me, like they grew up with me, like
- 8:26Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like I was used to
- 8:28Speaker 5: having shows and people fighting. If you ain't fight at
- 8:31Speaker 5: my show, I thought my show was whack. I'm looking
- 8:37Speaker 5: at the crowd now, I'm like, man, everybody needs is bad.
- 8:42Speaker 5: They grew with me, and I should grow with them,
- 8:44Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. I'm saying, so yeah, I
- 8:46Speaker 5: would love to do it with nas you know, me
- 8:48Speaker 5: and nas Is is very cool. The last time I
- 8:52Speaker 5: see Naves, he was.
- 8:53Speaker 1: Like, I'm not inviting you to another party if you
- 8:55Speaker 1: don't wear a suit. And I was like, damn. I
- 8:59Speaker 1: was like, I gotta grow.
- 9:00Speaker 5: I'm thinking I'm a y n too, like so yeah,
- 9:03Speaker 5: but it's it's it's great man. It's great to grow
- 9:06Speaker 5: with your audience and to realize that. So I finally
- 9:11Speaker 5: I have finally uh seen that. Yeah, and I embracing that,
- 9:14Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So yeah, So I think
- 9:16Speaker 5: I'm gonna come outside. I got and I got great records, man,
- 9:19Speaker 5: like I've just been holding them a shout out to
- 9:21Speaker 5: hit Maker hit Maker. I don't know how he became
- 9:26Speaker 5: my secret an R, but he came and I was
- 9:28Speaker 5: just like, yo, listen, buddy, like I don't I haven't
- 9:31Speaker 5: made records in so long. I need somebody to help
- 9:34Speaker 5: me structure these records.
- 9:35Speaker 1: And he came in. He cut this verse off and
- 9:38Speaker 1: was like and I was like, Dag, you know, this
- 9:40Speaker 1: is my way of me still being me, but with
- 9:44Speaker 1: that new sound. And yeah.
- 9:47Speaker 5: So the only only person I haven't gotten the studio
- 9:49Speaker 5: with is Forrell uh me and Parrell. I just love
- 9:54Speaker 5: the fact that he's got on Louis be time right now.
- 9:57Speaker 1: It's not for free. I'm like, when's the prison family back?
- 10:02Speaker 8: Man?
- 10:03Speaker 5: You know what I mean about what you're saying. No,
- 10:05Speaker 5: that's the other missing piece to podcast and records. I'll
- 10:07Speaker 5: be saying, how all these rappers have podcasts now? Like
- 10:10Speaker 5: nobody's trying to sell music, you know what I mean?
- 10:14Speaker 5: And I think there's only a couple of people that
- 10:15Speaker 5: can do it. I think you can do it, and
- 10:17Speaker 5: I think Joe can do it because y'all, y'all been
- 10:19Speaker 5: around long enough to half hit podcast. Yes, where people
- 10:23Speaker 5: trust y'all, but they would buy some type of music
- 10:25Speaker 5: did y'all put up?
- 10:26Speaker 1: Yes, I don't think you don't have enough tenure in
- 10:29Speaker 1: the podcast.
- 10:31Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, you know it's crazy. Years ago I
- 10:34Speaker 5: told Ray Kahan to drop his album on the podcast,
- 10:37Speaker 5: Like you remember that.
- 10:37Speaker 6: I was like, Yo, Ray, and we were playing your
- 10:39Speaker 6: songs at the beginning of the podcast.
- 10:41Speaker 5: That's when I thought I was I was getting a
- 10:43Speaker 5: little bit above my bridges because we were doing so much.
- 10:47Speaker 1: And then I I played I played the record and
- 10:50Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, let me.
- 10:51Speaker 5: Call sound Exchange, because if we did three million on
- 10:56Speaker 5: this episode, that means they owe me, they owe me,
- 10:59Speaker 5: And boy is that's not a good call. So yeah,
- 11:06Speaker 5: so he like like just just imagine that, like right
- 11:09Speaker 5: now is direct to consumer, right, Like I mean it
- 11:11Speaker 5: can be direct to consumer. Imagine you dropped yea your
- 11:15Speaker 5: album and but it's on your podcast like that, Like
- 11:20Speaker 5: like that's crazy.
- 11:21Speaker 1: Yeah, so because that's really directed to consumers.
- 11:24Speaker 5: And I'm learning this new game, like you know what
- 11:27Speaker 5: I mean, Like I'm enjoying it, uh and uh so yeah,
- 11:31Speaker 5: so I'm going through my hat in the ring with
- 11:34Speaker 5: some music and have some and you know what's crazy,
- 11:37Speaker 5: It's like I don't I don't have to. I'm doing
- 11:40Speaker 5: this out of pure love. I'm doing this because I
- 11:42Speaker 5: want to do it, and I do love my fans.
- 11:45Speaker 5: Like when I sat down and I looked and I
- 11:47Speaker 5: was like, wait, wait, wait a minute, they grew with me,
- 11:49Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
- 11:50Speaker 1: Like, so I got to see that, and I got
- 11:52Speaker 1: to see it every day.
- 11:53Speaker 5: I just might have been ignored it on Instagram and
- 11:55Speaker 5: on on on on on Twitter and and and all this,
- 11:59Speaker 5: but they there, they're with me.
- 12:00Speaker 2: I just asked one question. You finished Body in the Trunk,
- 12:04Speaker 2: sequel out you and no sequel it out?
- 12:06Speaker 5: You know, you know, you know that's that's also a
- 12:09Speaker 5: dope thing to say. But you know what's crazy, I
- 12:14Speaker 5: don't want to you know why. It's such a great story.
- 12:21Speaker 5: Me and Nas how that record was made. We went
- 12:25Speaker 5: to the studio. We stole it from Jungle.
- 12:29Speaker 2: Jungle's record.
- 12:30Speaker 5: No it was Jungle was just playing around. The Jungle
- 12:32Speaker 5: wasn't rhyme it at the time, and Jungle was just saying, yo,
- 12:34Speaker 5: it's a body, it's a body.
- 12:37Speaker 1: And then me and Nas, you know you want to
- 12:39Speaker 1: be a serious no big Jungle, that's my man, thank you, but.
- 12:46Speaker 5: Uh, And then me and me and I has really
- 12:49Speaker 5: made that record in twenty minutes and it was so
- 12:51Speaker 5: put together, and I've seen an AI video of it
- 12:54Speaker 5: the other day.
- 12:54Speaker 1: I thought it was me in there, like I was like,
- 12:58Speaker 1: wait a minute, I was like, ya, my haircut wasn't
- 13:01Speaker 1: like that, and like, but yeah, so I would. I would.
- 13:04Speaker 1: I would like to do something else with him because
- 13:08Speaker 1: I love what he's doing.
- 13:09Speaker 5: I love uh, I love that legends we shouldn't we
- 13:13Speaker 5: shouldn't die because you get older, Like you know what
- 13:15Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like this is the only this is the
- 13:18Speaker 5: only uh a genre of music where they have a
- 13:22Speaker 5: word called washed up, like because you're older, Like why
- 13:25Speaker 5: why should you? Why why we can't be seasoned? Well
- 13:28Speaker 5: we can't be, like you know what I'm saying.
- 13:29Speaker 2: But it's changing though, it's changing now.
- 13:31Speaker 5: Like I said, I believe, and I keep crediting for
- 13:34Speaker 5: four four. I credit for four four because that was
- 13:37Speaker 5: the first album where I felt like I was that age.
- 13:40Speaker 1: It was and it was a mature of music.
- 13:42Speaker 5: And then and then and then you know, nas is
- 13:44Speaker 5: doing everything well, you know Havoc and Mob Deep album
- 13:50Speaker 5: and all this, It's like, all right, cool, my era
- 13:52Speaker 5: is coming back and we're cool too, Like I felt
- 13:54Speaker 5: like we might have like not being cool for a
- 13:57Speaker 5: second and then now I'm like okay, like I said,
- 14:00Speaker 5: we could cater to our audience, do not cater And
- 14:03Speaker 5: I didn't know that at the time.
- 14:04Speaker 1: And this is something recently.
- 14:06Speaker 9: Did you feel cool?
- 14:08Speaker 5: No? I mean recently, Like I mean like yeah, like
- 14:10Speaker 5: I mean, because I can't. I don't relate to drill
- 14:13Speaker 5: music as much as much bad things that I've been through.
- 14:18Speaker 5: You would think like, Okay, I can relate to the
- 14:20Speaker 5: to the young Baltimore guy, Like no, I can't, like
- 14:23Speaker 5: not just this guy.
- 14:24Speaker 1: And I was trying though, like you know what I mean,
- 14:26Speaker 1: Like in my mind, I was like, Okay, I can
- 14:28Speaker 1: see that.
- 14:28Speaker 10: I can see like with you how you were feeling
- 14:31Speaker 10: or whatever, because you still want to appeal to like
- 14:34Speaker 10: the newcomers, you know, the up and coming of young brothers.
- 14:36Speaker 7: Do you have any like favorite young artists that you
- 14:38Speaker 7: would like to work with.
- 14:39Speaker 5: I'll be, I'll be, I'll be, i'll be, i'll be
- 14:43Speaker 5: back from Jersey. Yeah, yeah, that's my favorite. Like and
- 14:48Speaker 5: the other day he just did the Bleak podcast which
- 14:50Speaker 5: is on Drink Chances, which is on Black Black Fact
- 14:54Speaker 5: and he picked me up and I was like, that's that.
- 14:57Speaker 1: That's another thing. He's like.
- 15:00Speaker 5: Sometimes when you're a fan of somebody, you don't automatically
- 15:03Speaker 5: expect them to be like you know what I'm saying,
- 15:05Speaker 5: Like I have that same amount of love for you,
- 15:07Speaker 5: and so I've been seeing seeing this and I'm like,
- 15:11Speaker 5: I said, like I love him.
- 15:13Speaker 1: Uh, who's my mass chef G chef G chef G.
- 15:18Speaker 1: I messed with them. I don't mess with a bunch
- 15:20Speaker 1: of West Coast dudes. I don't.
- 15:21Speaker 5: I don't know their name, but uh, I watched I
- 15:25Speaker 5: watched interviews and that you know when I came out.
- 15:32Speaker 5: This is the reason why we don't interview new guys.
- 15:36Speaker 5: I hate the one word answers. You know when you said,
- 15:40Speaker 5: you said, your man, So what have you been been
- 15:42Speaker 5: involved with the guy? Like yeah, I'm cooling, Like no,
- 15:45Speaker 5: we don't want you want to drink Champs cold somewhere else.
- 15:48Speaker 1: Like, but they don't have a story yet. That's the
- 15:50Speaker 1: beauty and drink. We all have a story. You have
- 15:53Speaker 1: no journey. You have to sell it, you know what
- 15:55Speaker 1: I mean.
- 15:55Speaker 5: That's that's why, Like if you ever look at boxers,
- 15:58Speaker 5: like they always paint a better picture of box boxes
- 16:01Speaker 5: is not the most articulate people, but you know you
- 16:04Speaker 5: have to tell that story.
- 16:05Speaker 1: So uh yeah, so I want to. I want to.
- 16:09Speaker 1: I want to get back into this and I want to. Yeah.
- 16:13Speaker 5: I like the conversation about catering to the youth because
- 16:16Speaker 5: I tell folks, if you cater to the youth, you
- 16:18Speaker 5: change every three years.
- 16:20Speaker 1: Wow and literally like every three years you'll be doing
- 16:22Speaker 1: something new.
- 16:23Speaker 5: So why not just stick to you and who you
- 16:25Speaker 5: are and just growing involved as a person and give people.
- 16:28Speaker 6: Who you are in that moment, right you know, yeah,
- 16:30Speaker 6: it doesn't mean you won't get a youthful audience as
- 16:33Speaker 6: long you're authentic.
- 16:34Speaker 9: I think y'all weave stuff in and out, like not
- 16:35Speaker 9: super new, but like I remember well the Kodak Black episode.
- 16:39Speaker 1: You know, wait, wait what you said. I think y'all
- 16:43Speaker 1: do a.
- 16:43Speaker 9: Good job of the people who people want to hear from.
- 16:45Speaker 9: To a certain extent, y'all try to bring them on
- 16:47Speaker 9: to have conversations, but it don't always good.
- 16:50Speaker 1: I love Kodak Black. Let me just tell you something.
- 16:53Speaker 1: He is a real one.
- 16:55Speaker 5: Like when I tell you he showed up early and
- 16:58Speaker 5: stay the latest, like and I'm looking like because you know,
- 17:04Speaker 5: you know, he's he's about that life. He's he's outside
- 17:07Speaker 5: like he's a good one. But I see him like
- 17:10Speaker 5: a lot and he does a lot for the hood
- 17:12Speaker 5: that I that I see that I hear about.
- 17:14Speaker 1: Yeah, he does a lot. He's he's actually he's actually
- 17:18Speaker 1: what you're about.
- 17:18Speaker 3: To don Okay, we got to give him the cups.
- 17:27Speaker 6: You're gonna drink something drink.
- 17:29Speaker 1: But yeah, okay, I know what. I don't know if you.
- 17:34Speaker 5: Know, I just I just like that, thank you for
- 17:38Speaker 5: bringing that up. Because that he's he is considered a
- 17:40Speaker 5: new generation. And but I relate to him like he's
- 17:45Speaker 5: a person I relate to like you know what I'm saying,
- 17:47Speaker 5: uh and his hood. Yes this is all y'all FN's idea. Yes, yes,
- 17:53Speaker 5: but but yeah, I relate to Kodak. I feel like
- 17:57Speaker 5: I feel like he's very very necessary. And again, Kodak
- 18:00Speaker 5: has the best story I've ever like like we went
- 18:05Speaker 5: out to eat and Kodak brong his own food to
- 18:07Speaker 5: the to the spot and like I just I can't
- 18:11Speaker 5: get over that, Like it was like this my mama food,
- 18:15Speaker 5: she cooked better than this. I was all right, but like, yeah,
- 18:18Speaker 5: so that's that's a that's a person I relate to.
- 18:21Speaker 9: Do you feel like because I know people were on
- 18:22Speaker 9: y'all because they felt like YA should have edited some.
- 18:24Speaker 1: Of that interviews. And then did you see all the
- 18:27Speaker 1: interviews that he did after that?
- 18:29Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 18:29Speaker 1: Yeah, so I I let me be honest with you.
- 18:36Speaker 1: We didn't edit period. That was our thing. That was
- 18:40Speaker 1: our thing. And then Kanye told us a very valuable lesson.
- 18:45Speaker 5: The second episode. The first episode was so beautiful, the
- 18:49Speaker 5: second one was not so much, and we learned to
- 18:54Speaker 5: edit from there. We were like, wait a minute, because
- 18:56Speaker 5: we knew there were certain things, but he literally asked
- 19:00Speaker 5: us to film Sunday night. No, no Sunday, no Saturday morning,
- 19:05Speaker 5: Saturday morning, and drop it Sunday. So we were competing
- 19:08Speaker 5: with the super Bowl. Yes, so we were competing with
- 19:10Speaker 5: super Bowl. We were actually beating the super Bowl in numbers.
- 19:13Speaker 5: Wasn't the super Bowl, it was something It was football
- 19:16Speaker 5: because I remember two month from YouTube calling me and
- 19:19Speaker 5: was like, yo, you guys are.
- 19:23Speaker 1: What is that called? Like when when the people stay
- 19:26Speaker 1: for the long attention?
- 19:28Speaker 5: We was beating in that and then we was beating
- 19:30Speaker 5: in the numbers and then but I didn't I'm saying
- 19:33Speaker 5: for myself, and you can speak for yourself as well.
- 19:36Speaker 5: But I didn't pay attention to the rhetoric what Kanye
- 19:39Speaker 5: was saying, and when it came out, that's why I
- 19:42Speaker 5: was apologized.
- 19:43Speaker 1: That's why you know I did go on apology to
- 19:45Speaker 1: all like I did.
- 19:46Speaker 5: Was like because even though I didn't say that, I
- 19:51Speaker 5: understand that I have a responsibility now, like you know
- 19:54Speaker 5: what I'm saying. Like like I like, like if someone
- 19:56Speaker 5: comes along with my show right now and they say, man,
- 20:00Speaker 5: forget yes and then forget envy, I.
- 20:03Speaker 1: Know the same because if I laugh, they think I'm
- 20:07Speaker 1: co signing it. What if it's funny. I don't know
- 20:14Speaker 1: how much I have to edit myself now. Like now,
- 20:17Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, you.
- 20:18Speaker 2: Gotta edit that because that happens.
- 20:20Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no, no envy somebody.
- 20:23Speaker 6: I got it.
- 20:23Speaker 1: I got it, I got I got a personal relationship
- 20:26Speaker 1: with you. If I let Clue, I'm just giving. I'm
- 20:30Speaker 1: just kidding. I'm just I'm just saying because the first
- 20:32Speaker 1: person I thought of if I let Clue come on,
- 20:34Speaker 1: it be like, yo, you're really doing shots. I'm in okay.
- 20:37Speaker 1: I thought I was okay, but I let Clue go
- 20:40Speaker 1: on and be like mess Envy, you know, en Vy.
- 20:44Speaker 1: I have to go like this mm hmm. And I
- 20:47Speaker 1: have to almost say that's Clue's words. What if you
- 20:50Speaker 1: say NB used to be my boyfriend who I'm not
- 20:54Speaker 1: saying what if he did? I'm gonna leave that party.
- 21:04Speaker 2: Talking about when.
- 21:05Speaker 9: I saw you say Diddy was the one that called
- 21:07Speaker 9: you to tell you that editadd yes, that's ironic now.
- 21:11Speaker 1: And you know what he said. You know what he said?
- 21:13Speaker 5: He said, not my part because you know, yay this
- 21:17Speaker 5: Diddy And he was like, you can leave this part,
- 21:21Speaker 5: but don't He said, yo, you sure you want this part?
- 21:25Speaker 1: That it was the Jewish part like when he like
- 21:28Speaker 1: and and and I was like, I was like, oh
- 21:32Speaker 1: because I didn't know what I didn't know at the time,
- 21:34Speaker 1: and the George Floyd part to George Floyd Park.
- 21:37Speaker 5: Listen, I regret leaving the Jewish part, and I regret
- 21:40Speaker 5: leaving the George for Floyd Park because one.
- 21:46Speaker 1: I'm black man, I saw that.
- 21:47Speaker 5: I saw that video, Like I was hurt like everyone else,
- 21:51Speaker 5: and like to this day, like like like I'm like
- 21:56Speaker 5: still have like a little bit of smoke because of
- 21:58Speaker 5: that because it's like yo.
- 21:59Speaker 1: But I but but I said I'm sorry.
- 22:01Speaker 5: So as a man, when you say you sorry, like
- 22:04Speaker 5: like I felt like I should have been forgiven. Like
- 22:06Speaker 5: and it's one person in this world that I don't
- 22:08Speaker 5: think he forgives me, you know what I'm saying.
- 22:10Speaker 1: And I got, I got, you know what.
- 22:12Speaker 5: I came to the realization, I'm gonna respect it. Like
- 22:14Speaker 5: I'm gonna just stay in my zone.
- 22:15Speaker 2: You apologize, you know, he doesn't have to accept it.
- 22:18Speaker 5: But he did accept it. That's what that's the part
- 22:21Speaker 5: that's kind of messed up were talking about.
- 22:24Speaker 1: You know, just watch I'm embarrassed by this. I mean,
- 22:30Speaker 1: I'm too grown like and when I when.
- 22:32Speaker 5: I seen the back and forth that I did on
- 22:34Speaker 5: my behalf, I'm I'm I'm embarrassing, you.
- 22:37Speaker 2: Know, just say so.
- 22:42Speaker 5: I'm talking about that because because you know, I let
- 22:47Speaker 5: the Internet gas me.
- 22:49Speaker 1: I did. The Internet came to me was like, why
- 22:51Speaker 1: he ain't had that same smoke for that white man
- 22:53Speaker 1: that he had for you? And it's the truth.
- 22:55Speaker 5: So it was just like I was like, all right, cool,
- 22:58Speaker 5: and I did let the Internet gas me. But a
- 23:01Speaker 5: super a super regret a super I'm bad. I know better, bro,
- 23:04Speaker 5: Like you know what I'm saying, Like, so if it's
- 23:06Speaker 5: if it's if it's still smoke, that's up to you, man,
- 23:09Speaker 5: Like you know what I'm saying, Like, because I did
- 23:12Speaker 5: say I'm.
- 23:12Speaker 1: Sorry, and I am sorry.
- 23:15Speaker 5: I'm not taking this back. So I thought that, like
- 23:17Speaker 5: he must have had this phone call on tape. So
- 23:21Speaker 5: I'm thinking that that's what it was, but it probably isn't.
- 23:24Speaker 5: And and maybe he forgot. Maybe you know, he smokes
- 23:26Speaker 5: a lot, he says, he says, I drink a lot.
- 23:28Speaker 5: He smokes a lot.
- 23:29Speaker 1: Maybe he doesn't remember that I actually said I'm sorry,
- 23:32Speaker 1: Like no, you said you said it through text. No, no,
- 23:35Speaker 1: that's not the truth. I got on the phone. I
- 23:36Speaker 1: got on the phone.
- 23:37Speaker 5: I got on the phone with you, I got on
- 23:39Speaker 5: the phone with y'all. I was on the phone with everybody.
- 23:41Speaker 5: Because this is how I felt. I'm not taking back
- 23:43Speaker 5: how I feel. I was sorry, like like if I'm sorry,
- 23:48Speaker 5: like when MB said I try to charge him, I
- 23:51Speaker 5: always say I'm sorry for you.
- 23:52Speaker 1: I always feel like I never.
- 23:53Speaker 5: Took back my apology. I always like an MBYO my bad.
- 23:56Speaker 5: I was probably feeling myself at this time, like and
- 23:59Speaker 5: it on you to forgive me. You did forgive me.
- 24:02Speaker 3: We we have we have history, we speak, we talk,
- 24:05Speaker 3: and it's different, I mean, and I know it comes
- 24:07Speaker 3: from a good place like he and You've always had
- 24:09Speaker 3: a great relationship where you want to see each other prosper.
- 24:12Speaker 2: So it's a different part. But if somebody doesn't, it's
- 24:14Speaker 2: you know.
- 24:14Speaker 5: Yeah, I do want to see you and Stephen work
- 24:17Speaker 5: that I do. I do, y'all both for good brothers,
- 24:19Speaker 5: great in this media space. You'a got mutual friends like
- 24:22Speaker 5: fan Joe like there's no reason for y'all both on
- 24:25Speaker 5: black effect, like there's no reason and and and and
- 24:29Speaker 5: you know what, I'm gonna be the bigger person, like
- 24:31Speaker 5: I don't want to. And I don't know if this
- 24:32Speaker 5: is called an olive branch or whatever, but what I'm
- 24:34Speaker 5: saying is I said sorry. If you didn't remember that,
- 24:37Speaker 5: I said sorry, And if you thought I said it
- 24:39Speaker 5: through texting you, you might be smoking because I wanted
- 24:43Speaker 5: him to hear my voice and I wouldn't like I
- 24:47Speaker 5: remember you even telling me like yo, you you didn't
- 24:51Speaker 5: say that else?
- 24:52Speaker 1: Yay who said that?
- 24:53Speaker 5: But I was I still felt obligated to go because
- 24:56Speaker 5: I'm black, Like I think this what happened, this, this was,
- 24:59Speaker 5: this was and for me letting that on my platform,
- 25:02Speaker 5: and that has changed how I moved forward, Like how
- 25:05Speaker 5: we move forward now. It's like, all right, cool, I
- 25:07Speaker 5: know that Charlomagne could come on my show and say
- 25:12Speaker 5: forget Jess, and Jess can be mad at me. She
- 25:18Speaker 5: could be like yo, no no no no no no
- 25:21Speaker 5: no no. To a certain extent, she can be mad
- 25:24Speaker 5: at me. She can say, yo, you knew he was
- 25:26Speaker 5: gonna come up there with that, you knew he was
- 25:28Speaker 5: going to swing that type of energy, and you would
- 25:30Speaker 5: allow that to happen.
- 25:31Speaker 1: So to a certain extent.
- 25:33Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to be more responsible and that has
- 25:36Speaker 5: has changed us both, and it has changed us both.
- 25:39Speaker 5: I want to be so when I'm engaging and I
- 25:42Speaker 5: did this, and I did what I did the other day,
- 25:46Speaker 5: like I was embarrassed, like not no one had to
- 25:49Speaker 5: come and tell me, Like I looked at myself in
- 25:52Speaker 5: the mirror and.
- 25:52Speaker 1: I was like why like like like why like you
- 25:56Speaker 1: know better?
- 25:56Speaker 5: Like and you know it is could lead to like
- 25:59Speaker 5: and that's it responsible of me as a person, like
- 26:02Speaker 5: I would rather, I would rather, I would rather to
- 26:04Speaker 5: take the high role.
- 26:05Speaker 1: At this point, like, and I know that's that's Some
- 26:07Speaker 1: people might be.
- 26:08Speaker 2: Like, oh man, that's growth and that's evolution.
- 26:11Speaker 1: Some people might. But I don't. I can't do this
- 26:14Speaker 1: like I can't. I can't, like I don't need to.
- 26:18Speaker 2: But but that's good.
- 26:19Speaker 3: And shall tell you even myself, I buy I bow
- 26:22Speaker 3: out now, like I'm like, it ain't worth it.
- 26:24Speaker 1: How many too many problems used to be.
- 26:29Speaker 3: I don't bow out, No, y'all handle step away because
- 26:41Speaker 3: I don't want to go that place and I don't
- 26:42Speaker 3: want to go that far.
- 26:43Speaker 1: Life is too good, said to me the other day.
- 26:46Speaker 1: And you be mad at you and you don't even know.
- 26:48Speaker 1: It's just certain things.
- 26:52Speaker 2: It's just certain things to respect.
- 26:53Speaker 3: Right if you look out for somebody, and really look
- 26:56Speaker 3: out for somebody, no matter thick and thin, and when
- 26:59Speaker 3: they you know, when you were on the floor, they
- 27:00Speaker 3: step on your neck, you just remember it.
- 27:02Speaker 2: You just remember because when it always comes back around,
- 27:04Speaker 2: and when it does come back.
- 27:05Speaker 1: Around, you just remember it. That's all.
- 27:06Speaker 2: But don't it doesn't matter who you are, just you know, yeah,
- 27:09Speaker 2: a virgo thing.
- 27:10Speaker 1: Yeah. Let me ask you a question.
- 27:11Speaker 5: What interview do you think changed the trajectory of drink
- 27:15Speaker 5: change and made you realize like, oh, it is bigger than.
- 27:18Speaker 6: The first DMX episode. That was that that took like
- 27:22Speaker 6: we were already out the gate first episode of Fat Joe,
- 27:25Speaker 6: we were doing numbers, we knew it was a success,
- 27:28Speaker 6: but it was that DMX one that just took us
- 27:30Speaker 6: over the top and it was just so raw.
- 27:32Speaker 7: Like I feel like I.
- 27:33Speaker 6: Always say, we can make a documentary of the making
- 27:35Speaker 6: of that episode, because we filmed it in a hotel
- 27:38Speaker 6: lobby and dm definitely didn't know what the podcast was
- 27:41Speaker 6: and our computers broke down and we had to reset them.
- 27:44Speaker 6: It took an hour to get set up again. It
- 27:46Speaker 6: was just a crazy episode.
- 27:48Speaker 1: Put it like this. Put it like this.
- 27:51Speaker 5: So I go to see X and exits smoke a
- 27:55Speaker 5: cigarettes at the time. I don't smoke a cigarettes just
- 27:57Speaker 5: ten years ago. So I smoked a cigarette and he
- 28:00Speaker 5: gets a phone call and I'm going, I'm there to
- 28:03Speaker 5: ask him for an interview. So he gets a phone
- 28:05Speaker 5: call and it's from his cousin and they're like.
- 28:07Speaker 1: Yo, this is your cousin dogs.
- 28:08Speaker 5: He's like, all right, cool, and he goes, uh, Power
- 28:11Speaker 5: ninety nine want to do an interview with you.
- 28:14Speaker 1: He goes, I'm gonna do fucking interviews and he hangs
- 28:17Speaker 1: up and I'm like, what the hell am I saying?
- 28:20Speaker 5: What?
- 28:21Speaker 1: I'm here for this?
- 28:22Speaker 5: So I said, so I made sure not to word
- 28:24Speaker 5: it as an interview. I was like, yo, I got
- 28:26Speaker 5: a podcast, and he was like a podcast, well like jail.
- 28:30Speaker 5: I was like no, I'm like no, He's like, all right, cool.
- 28:35Speaker 5: I was like, but it's just gonna be us talking.
- 28:37Speaker 5: So we went upstairs. I don't know if you remember
- 28:39Speaker 5: that part. Remember he set up upstairs and we set
- 28:43Speaker 5: up like in his room, like, and X didn't want
- 28:46Speaker 5: to go upstairs, so we got to take the whole
- 28:48Speaker 5: thing down and we got to bring him back downstairs.
- 28:51Speaker 5: Now X is X like you can't change him, you know,
- 28:54Speaker 5: God bless him. And so we literally did the show
- 28:58Speaker 5: in the middle of the lie be on a pool
- 29:01Speaker 5: on a pool table in the hotel and X is
- 29:04Speaker 5: still like, so he's so hot at the time. The
- 29:07Speaker 5: people don't even want to tell us you can't smoke, like.
- 29:10Speaker 1: He's smoking cigarettes, he's drinking a hotel lobby.
- 29:14Speaker 5: We didn't ask the forermissioned the lobby music they had
- 29:18Speaker 5: and they actually comply.
- 29:19Speaker 1: So I don't want to pick up that hotel because
- 29:22Speaker 1: they might have got fired. But it was that was
- 29:25Speaker 1: that was, that was from that moment. Well, Joe, Joe knew.
- 29:30Speaker 5: And when I say Joe, I'm talking about Fat Joe
- 29:32Speaker 5: because there's a lot of other Joe's out there. Fat
- 29:34Speaker 5: Joe knew from the time that he sat down with us.
- 29:37Speaker 5: Because our first guest was n was Kenny first recorded guest.
- 29:43Speaker 5: It didn't come out. I mean it didn't, It didn't
- 29:45Speaker 5: come out at that time. But when Fat Joe sat
- 29:48Speaker 5: down with us, he was like, Yo, you guys are crazy.
- 29:51Speaker 5: You guys are doing something different, but you guys got
- 29:53Speaker 5: something right. And then we held a Kenny Anderson interview,
- 29:58Speaker 5: and then we got DMX and once d MX we
- 30:01Speaker 5: I believe we went through the roof and then everyone
- 30:04Speaker 5: and ironically our first guest, Fat Joe, second guest d MX,
- 30:10Speaker 5: third guest, Jada Kiss. Just think about how ironic that
- 30:17Speaker 5: lines up. Now, man, big up to Joe and Jada.
- 30:20Speaker 5: People used to I don't know why people think the
- 30:23Speaker 5: guests that we had the most on, Joe and Jada
- 30:25Speaker 5: is the guest that we had the most on. So
- 30:27Speaker 5: big them up. I am so proud of what they're doing.
- 30:30Speaker 5: I'm happy. I think they even got a whole interview.
- 30:32Speaker 5: And if they don't got it, I'm throwing.
- 30:34Speaker 1: It in the air. You know what I mean.
- 30:35Speaker 2: Go ahead, y'all going and you do spoiler alert. We
- 30:38Speaker 2: see Fat Jeroy City got the biggest artist ever. It's
- 30:41Speaker 2: spoiler alert.
- 30:41Speaker 1: I hope, So, I hope so.
- 30:45Speaker 5: Because hole is outside, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, man,
- 30:49Speaker 5: I love what they do and I love the fact
- 30:51Speaker 5: that they listen to me, you know what I'm saying,
- 30:54Speaker 5: And they so those are those are my brothers, Like
- 30:56Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, so h And I love
- 30:59Speaker 5: I love I love I love that hip hop media.
- 31:04Speaker 5: Hip hop is now in control of media, you know
- 31:07Speaker 5: what I mean? Like I remember, I remember at times
- 31:10Speaker 5: and I'm sorry to sounds like the old dude, but
- 31:12Speaker 5: you remember at times like I can say something about
- 31:16Speaker 5: about envy and this this won't come out till March
- 31:20Speaker 5: because you know, the editorials and all this, and then
- 31:23Speaker 5: by the time this comes out, me and envy does
- 31:25Speaker 5: squashed out.
- 31:28Speaker 1: How you felt.
- 31:32Speaker 5: Like? So now nowadays that we're controlling media, I love
- 31:36Speaker 5: this like I love this.
- 31:37Speaker 1: I love what is it? Jim uh uh fab you know.
- 31:44Speaker 5: I didn't. I been knew how funny Fab was, God blessed,
- 31:49Speaker 5: I didn't know how to I didn't know how to
- 31:50Speaker 5: tell Fab. You your personality. People think you quiet and
- 31:54Speaker 5: you're quiet. Started to see it on Twitter back in
- 31:57Speaker 5: the day. It started with rain J started with that,
- 32:02Speaker 5: you know, you know, you know, Fabs first freestyle, the
- 32:05Speaker 5: first time the world has ever showed with you. For me,
- 32:08Speaker 5: I put you on, Fab. I'm playing around, but I'm
- 32:16Speaker 5: not playing around because it's the truth, you know what
- 32:20Speaker 5: I'm saying. Like when I see them, when I see
- 32:22Speaker 5: you know, Jim Jones, When I see Cam and Mace,
- 32:26Speaker 5: the evolution, the fact that they squashed it and then
- 32:29Speaker 5: they can't, And I was this is real talk. I
- 32:32Speaker 5: was with Cam for like a week straight, like just
- 32:34Speaker 5: trying to like I knew, I knew he had the personality.
- 32:39Speaker 5: I knew he had the person that I knew. Cam
- 32:42Speaker 5: and Trick Daddy, it's probably the illest personalities in hippodty
- 32:46Speaker 5: and and I'm and I might be putting that and
- 32:50Speaker 5: me and Joe, you know what I'm saying, like, but
- 32:53Speaker 5: that's who I saw. I saw Fab, I saw I saw,
- 32:56Speaker 5: Excuse me, I saw Cam, and I knew he was
- 32:59Speaker 5: gonna do and Cam basically was like he took my advice,
- 33:03Speaker 5: but he did it his way, which is the way
- 33:05Speaker 5: he's supposed to do it, and he went and did sports.
- 33:07Speaker 5: And look every day I'm seeing them on first take now,
- 33:10Speaker 5: like I love it, Like you know what I'm saying. Like, so,
- 33:14Speaker 5: the fact that we controlling media, the fact that I
- 33:18Speaker 5: can go wake up in the morning and I could
- 33:20Speaker 5: listen to Cam.
- 33:23Speaker 1: Instead of first Take, or listen to Cam and first
- 33:25Speaker 1: take like I listened to my own people. He talks
- 33:28Speaker 1: my language.
- 33:29Speaker 5: The fact that I could look at you know, Joe
- 33:31Speaker 5: and Jada and like what they're doing and they're interviewing
- 33:35Speaker 5: you know, you know, everybody, and.
- 33:37Speaker 1: Like that to me is like I feel like I'm home.
- 33:41Speaker 1: Like I feel like I'm home when I say.
- 33:43Speaker 9: I was going to say, what you're doing with black
- 33:45Speaker 9: effect with your own That's why Drink Champs network is
- 33:49Speaker 9: dope because even what you bleaks, podcasts and a lot
- 33:52Speaker 9: of the other things that have happened, you're just creating
- 33:53Speaker 9: more of it.
- 33:56Speaker 1: I don't want to beek. They have no guests though, Joe,
- 33:58Speaker 1: you know what he told me, You told him that
- 34:01Speaker 1: and I agree.
- 34:02Speaker 6: I told him that too.
- 34:03Speaker 1: I agree. I told him I need him to get
- 34:05Speaker 1: hein like painting the ass to be as cold that.
- 34:08Speaker 5: Would be great, yes, yes, And and Bleak is doing
- 34:12Speaker 5: phenomenal like like like you know what I mean. I
- 34:15Speaker 5: love the fact you know that you know right now?
- 34:19Speaker 5: To me, I predicted Tony Yoo as well, like listen, listen, listen,
- 34:24Speaker 5: I predicted this work on this podcast. Yeah, they took
- 34:28Speaker 5: the bag immediately, but.
- 34:33Speaker 1: I for weeks. Actually, yo, yo, this is real talk.
- 34:36Speaker 1: I was.
- 34:37Speaker 5: I don't want to say, but I was just on
- 34:39Speaker 5: the phone with him, like yo, and this is this
- 34:41Speaker 5: is gonna sound real crazy, but let me let me,
- 34:43Speaker 5: let me make it make sense. Like if I had
- 34:45Speaker 5: a chance to sign jay Z or Bleak, I would
- 34:48Speaker 5: sign Bleak because I know Jay ain't gonna talk like that.
- 34:51Speaker 5: If I had the chance to sign fifty or ya Yo,
- 34:53Speaker 5: I would sign ya Yo because ya Yo is Yayo
- 34:57Speaker 5: is like listen, fifty would be good, but he's gonna
- 35:01Speaker 5: do it once like you know what I'm saying, but
- 35:06Speaker 5: no questions.
- 35:09Speaker 1: Let me tell you about ya Yo. Let me tell
- 35:10Speaker 1: you and Yayo, he I told this to ya I
- 35:13Speaker 1: don't know what.
- 35:15Speaker 5: Okay, guys, but Yayo, Yayo hasn't even like like like
- 35:27Speaker 5: shown like his real real personality, Like he has a wonderful, wonderful,
- 35:32Speaker 5: wonderful person and he's funny. My favorite argument on drinking
- 35:36Speaker 5: chapter is ya Yo and yeah Fin, it's probably the
- 35:39Speaker 5: quietest I've ever been because he he's from the West Coast.
- 35:45Speaker 5: A lot of people don't know that he's originally from
- 35:47Speaker 5: l A and he loves ice Cube and.
- 35:51Speaker 1: I mean, you got to that. We got to mention that.
- 35:55Speaker 5: And ya Yo was arguing about Biggie and I swear god,
- 36:00Speaker 5: the passion that they both had, and I just stood
- 36:03Speaker 5: there and I was just like, I fell back. I
- 36:05Speaker 5: was like I didn't want to stop it. I was
- 36:07Speaker 5: just like, you just let him keep the debate exactly.
- 36:10Speaker 6: It was, well, he asked me who's my top five
- 36:13Speaker 6: and I said Cube at the top, and then he
- 36:14Speaker 6: just didn't like that answer and he was like Biggie, Biggie,
- 36:17Speaker 6: and it just it was out of hand because we're
- 36:19Speaker 6: already late in the episode. We were drunk, and it
- 36:21Speaker 6: was just a debate between ice Cube and Biggie.
- 36:23Speaker 1: That's what it was.
- 36:23Speaker 6: This is my favorite, and I just said, Biggie didn't
- 36:25Speaker 6: get out to he didn't get to live his life
- 36:27Speaker 6: to the career that that I ended up having. You know.
- 36:30Speaker 1: That's that was my argument. And to your to your
- 36:32Speaker 1: h I want ya Yo and Murder to argue all day, like.
- 36:41Speaker 2: Leave they just get too mad.
- 36:45Speaker 3: Y but Yayo to this day, if he sees you,
- 36:47Speaker 3: he gonna say something slick about ice Cube, you know,
- 36:49Speaker 3: because that's what we've.
- 36:49Speaker 1: Already talked in it.
- 36:51Speaker 3: He's already said slick ship And we were talking about
- 36:54Speaker 3: Banks and fab I was like, I was like, yay,
- 36:56Speaker 3: what's up?
- 36:56Speaker 2: How you doing?
- 36:57Speaker 1: You know?
- 36:57Speaker 2: Banks on tour right now? Like, y hi, bro, that's
- 37:02Speaker 2: just ya.
- 37:04Speaker 1: And Yale's mad lawyer, Like I love that. He's a
- 37:08Speaker 1: good dude. I love Listen, listen.
- 37:10Speaker 5: We tried our best to get them, but at the
- 37:13Speaker 5: very last minute they went their way.
- 37:16Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's cool, that's cool, Like
- 37:18Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We're not hating, but uh,
- 37:20Speaker 1: we tried. We tried.
- 37:21Speaker 3: I want to you know, I want to know for
- 37:23Speaker 3: y'all coming out and how quote unquote tough rap used
- 37:26Speaker 3: to be, right, I see with Fat Joe, I see
- 37:27Speaker 3: it with you, I see with kiss, I see with Jim.
- 37:30Speaker 2: When people play with y'all, does that make you feel
- 37:33Speaker 2: like I wish I could go back to that. Ever,
- 37:35Speaker 2: somebody up because.
- 37:36Speaker 4: The way I hear him talking about y'all can't hand
- 37:39Speaker 4: them talking about And Joe was really because they played
- 37:45Speaker 4: with Joe a lot, and I'm like, if this would.
- 37:47Speaker 1: Have been but same thing with Joe.
- 37:51Speaker 5: With Joe, let me just tell you why. Well, something
- 37:55Speaker 5: happened happened with Joe and uh, he had he had
- 38:01Speaker 5: he had flu to the Dominican Republic. I felt like
- 38:03Speaker 5: I flew the Dominical Republic to see Joe because the
- 38:06Speaker 5: one thing about it is he pays attention to his haters.
- 38:10Speaker 1: He does, like.
- 38:13Speaker 5: A lot of times I can't, yeah, because I'm just like,
- 38:16Speaker 5: all right, cool, Why why I'm gonna pay attention to Jeffrey?
- 38:19Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like why Like, but then
- 38:23Speaker 1: it's hard.
- 38:24Speaker 5: It's hard, like it's hard for somebody to tell you
- 38:28Speaker 5: forget you or f you, and you know, like you
- 38:30Speaker 5: can do something to this person.
- 38:32Speaker 1: But then it's like what I said.
- 38:34Speaker 5: Earlier, it's like, yo, we got to grow up, man, Like,
- 38:37Speaker 5: like you know the other day, like, you know, I
- 38:41Speaker 5: did Angie Martinez podcast and Ansie Martinez was like, yo,
- 38:44Speaker 5: you know I've only seen you like with one woman,
- 38:49Speaker 5: like and she was like, why you don't never promote that.
- 38:52Speaker 5: I was like, I don't even know how to promote
- 38:54Speaker 5: being a loyal man, Like I don't know how to do.
- 38:56Speaker 1: It, like you know what I'm saying, like that's not
- 38:58Speaker 1: even fly. But and.
- 39:01Speaker 5: I said, you know, sorry, I'm changing the subject, but
- 39:03Speaker 5: I'm still on the subject. And I said, I said,
- 39:07Speaker 5: you know what's crazy. I never seen my father flirt
- 39:11Speaker 5: with another woman. My father had green eyes. You know,
- 39:14Speaker 5: I can't look at another man to tell another man
- 39:16Speaker 5: that he looks good. But you know, my pops you
- 39:19Speaker 5: could tell like he's put together. And so I say,
- 39:33Speaker 5: I say the other day, I'm like, man, I never
- 39:35Speaker 5: seen my pops flirt. I never seen And then my
- 39:37Speaker 5: kids turn to me and say, Dad, I never seen
- 39:40Speaker 5: you flirt.
- 39:42Speaker 1: I was like, I said, you change the subject.
- 39:47Speaker 5: Because I was so like, I don't know how to
- 39:50Speaker 5: I don't know how to promote being grown like because
- 39:53Speaker 5: you know what it is, it's so much that like
- 39:56Speaker 5: you said, like I'm trying to answer your question, but
- 39:59Speaker 5: what you say that is back in the days that.
- 40:02Speaker 1: Wasn't cool, Like like like we used to go to
- 40:05Speaker 1: the tunnel. Do you realize the tunnel had no girl bathroom?
- 40:13Speaker 1: What was wrong with us? None of us said nothing.
- 40:16Speaker 5: None of us said, Yo, why are we This is
- 40:20Speaker 5: maniac stuff that we're a part of. And so to
- 40:23Speaker 5: answer a question, yeah, at times, and then I don't
- 40:28Speaker 5: want to act like, uh, we're extinct from that or
- 40:34Speaker 5: because I do, sometimes I do engage. Like you know,
- 40:39Speaker 5: someone called me, uh the N word right, It was like,
- 40:44Speaker 5: what's up, my nigga? And I was like, Yo, I
- 40:45Speaker 5: don't don't call me nigga, Like you know what I'm.
- 40:49Speaker 1: Saying, Like damn, I just said. I said, I was
- 40:51Speaker 1: trying not to say it, and I just said, but
- 40:54Speaker 1: I'm involving.
- 40:54Speaker 5: Like so like when I sit around and we're in
- 40:57Speaker 5: the elevator and somebody called me the N word, I'm
- 41:01Speaker 5: just looking, I'd be like, Yo, don't don't call me
- 41:03Speaker 5: that no more. Like I don't want to be I
- 41:04Speaker 5: don't want to be niggas on the run eating no more.
- 41:06Speaker 5: I want to be now we're on the run eating,
- 41:08Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Because from Afar from a distance.
- 41:13Speaker 5: No one knows which one of us is ignorant, you
- 41:16Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like if somebody's calling, like and
- 41:18Speaker 5: I'll be in like restaurants and we're sitting there and like,
- 41:22Speaker 5: so now we got this thing, Like we got this
- 41:24Speaker 5: thing like if you call me the N word, you
- 41:26Speaker 5: got to do fifty push ups, like and wherever we at,
- 41:29Speaker 5: it's on demand.
- 41:30Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
- 41:31Speaker 5: I just want to be a better person. Like I'm
- 41:32Speaker 5: not trying to change the world. How about IM gonna
- 41:34Speaker 5: change my world around me anywhere? So if you all
- 41:36Speaker 5: have like a five star restaurant, that's why we that's why. Yeah,
- 41:39Speaker 5: now you start doing push ups and not whit people
- 41:41Speaker 5: like look at the niggas be like yo yo, when
- 41:46Speaker 5: I get outside, you could do you could do it.
- 41:48Speaker 5: But I feel like there's always room for growth, Like
- 41:51Speaker 5: there's always like you know what I mean, Like look
- 41:54Speaker 5: at this, like envy, I've rhymed the Envy's mom's basement.
- 42:00Speaker 1: Seriously, Okay, is this the killer? I'll take one?
- 42:16Speaker 5: This is I think this is Thank you, Va, thank you,
- 42:25Speaker 5: thank you, thank you, but and big up to Kevin
- 42:28Speaker 5: Hart as well.
- 42:29Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Uh, uh, because I kept
- 42:33Speaker 1: using his name during this.
- 42:34Speaker 9: But while we take this shot to you and to
- 42:37Speaker 9: the evolution, you were talking about being in MB's mom's basement.
- 42:40Speaker 1: Yes, that sounded I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm
- 42:49Speaker 1: not gonna lie.
- 42:54Speaker 5: I don't give envy and I don't give clue enough.
- 42:59Speaker 5: They were literally they were literally the two people that
- 43:05Speaker 5: was holding queens down, like literally like like.
- 43:08Speaker 2: Hold on, like hold on, shut the funk up, shut,
- 43:14Speaker 2: shut the funk up.
- 43:16Speaker 1: What used to say? They used to hold all the queens.
- 43:23Speaker 5: But let me tell you something. At one point I
- 43:29Speaker 5: said this with nature the other day, you know what
- 43:31Speaker 5: I mean. At one point, Uh, being on a clue
- 43:39Speaker 5: tape was better than being on the radio.
- 43:46Speaker 1: So like like uh clue envy. They used to come
- 43:55Speaker 1: and get me. It used to be like you, Norrie,
- 43:58Speaker 1: and we used to be used to ice to rhyme.
- 44:01Speaker 5: And this helped my career. Like I didn't want to
- 44:04Speaker 5: be on unsigned hype. I mean I got to be
- 44:07Speaker 5: onside hype, but this was I.
- 44:11Speaker 1: Do big you up.
- 44:12Speaker 5: It's just I don't pick up in your face. That's better, right,
- 44:16Speaker 5: you talk behind the back, but the person is back good.
- 44:19Speaker 5: So yeah, So like yeah, man like ship, why do
- 44:24Speaker 5: you think he does get lost in those conversations because
- 44:26Speaker 5: he's winning now. Most people, most people who you big
- 44:30Speaker 5: up back then there that I don't want to say
- 44:33Speaker 5: it like that, but they have lost to a certain extent.
- 44:36Speaker 5: So now it's easier to big up somebody that's that's
- 44:39Speaker 5: that's not doing it no more. Most people that he's
- 44:43Speaker 5: still going on. Bro like y'all on Netflix, Bro, like
- 44:45Speaker 5: this is congratulations.
- 44:47Speaker 10: I'm not for y'all now, rock boy the Netflix Live.
- 44:59Speaker 1: Let me just say you got something.
- 45:00Speaker 5: You're doing an amazing job, like you know, you know
- 45:03Speaker 5: Angela leaving, I've been thinking, y'all, y'all yeah, with no skip,
- 45:09Speaker 5: y'all just stayed up there and uh and if if
- 45:13Speaker 5: I didn't come up here to do the breakfast club
- 45:18Speaker 5: this ten years might not not You forget about.
- 45:24Speaker 1: Used to come up here every Easter, every Easter.
- 45:27Speaker 6: Let me say something to bring a full circle with
- 45:29Speaker 6: the mixtape thing, because it made me think about it.
- 45:31Speaker 6: How you say how that changed you? The mixtape We
- 45:34Speaker 6: met because I was the mixtape DJ in Miami and
- 45:36Speaker 6: that's how we connected. So the fact that you helped
- 45:39Speaker 6: him in his career and then and then long story
- 45:41Speaker 6: with us. So what we do drink chance is crazy.
- 45:46Speaker 9: Don't you think v need to talk more about that era?
- 45:49Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand him too. I understand him too because
- 45:53Speaker 1: he's a virgo and he's gonna go too far.
- 45:56Speaker 9: But keeping it like just what I always tell Envy
- 45:59Speaker 9: is I like that era. There were so many artists
- 46:02Speaker 9: that will say what you just said, major artists, right,
- 46:04Speaker 9: But he doesn't talk about it a lot, and I
- 46:06Speaker 9: think that it should be talked about, and so much
- 46:09Speaker 9: history and like the founding things of hip hop, and
- 46:12Speaker 9: I think that MV should be in a certain conversation.
- 46:15Speaker 5: You know what, I hear vay more. I said, Mvy,
- 46:18Speaker 5: big up clue more. But I hear that person always
- 46:22Speaker 5: respect the clause and I love that.
- 46:24Speaker 1: I love that.
- 46:25Speaker 5: But his his my time giving respectem fasters I got,
- 46:30Speaker 5: I got a bunch of your tastes.
- 46:31Speaker 2: But you know what too, it was it was a
- 46:32Speaker 2: time where money didn't matter.
- 46:34Speaker 1: Right.
- 46:35Speaker 2: Ory was doing freestyle. Yes, my mama basements. We didn't
- 46:37Speaker 2: have no money.
- 46:39Speaker 1: Miami freestyle.
- 46:41Speaker 2: Blue caravan, blue caravan with no seats in it. Everybody
- 46:45Speaker 2: jumped in. There was no seat belts. We just rolled.
- 46:47Speaker 2: We went to the city.
- 46:48Speaker 3: Like, didn't that I had a conn this event, that's
- 46:52Speaker 3: why we could afford back then. But it was it
- 46:54Speaker 3: was a minivan with no seats, and we used to
- 46:56Speaker 3: just move around. But it was a time where you
- 46:58Speaker 3: loved it, like when Nori I remember and Nor getting
- 47:00Speaker 3: signed and Nor doing this and no traveling.
- 47:02Speaker 2: And this, and you know, even with Royal flush. It's
- 47:05Speaker 2: like we just loved that time. It had nothing to
- 47:07Speaker 2: do with money. Money didn't matter.
- 47:10Speaker 1: When you were standing at the bus.
- 47:11Speaker 11: Stop, you said the nice car and that made you
- 47:18Speaker 11: be like, shoot you with the car and the chain.
- 47:21Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say this one last time.
- 47:24Speaker 3: I knew er Nesto. Me and nest used to ride
- 47:27Speaker 3: bikes and play basketball. Nestle used to live across the train.
- 47:30Speaker 3: One day, I was waiting at the bus stop. It
- 47:39Speaker 3: was cold, it was snow on the ground. Nice pulled
- 47:42Speaker 3: up in the three series B m W and back
- 47:45Speaker 3: then you were rich.
- 47:46Speaker 2: If you had that. I asked him how he got it.
- 47:49Speaker 1: He asked him because he drives.
- 47:53Speaker 3: I asked my friend, how he got it. He said, YO,
- 47:56Speaker 3: come to my house after school. I thought he was
- 47:59Speaker 3: selling drugs to his house after school.
- 48:01Speaker 2: His mom drugs.
- 48:02Speaker 3: I went downstairs, and I've seen records and all types
- 48:05Speaker 3: of tape players and this, that and the ever.
- 48:06Speaker 2: I asked what he did. He said he was a
- 48:08Speaker 2: d J. I asked his name. He said Clue.
- 48:10Speaker 3: Back then nobody knew what Clue was. Nobody knew his face.
- 48:13Speaker 3: And from there I was like, so you make money
- 48:14Speaker 3: by doing something that you love music? He said yes,
- 48:18Speaker 3: who time, I had no idea because he never told
- 48:20Speaker 3: anybody because not that once I when he had the
- 48:23Speaker 3: question mark, so I had no idea. And then after
- 48:25Speaker 3: that I was like, this is what I want to do,
- 48:26Speaker 3: and he said, I will get these turntables and go
- 48:28Speaker 3: ahead and keep going to.
- 48:44Speaker 1: Like us this crazy, but I do want to give
- 48:48Speaker 1: you a like like like if it wasn't for you
- 48:53Speaker 1: and Clue, you know what I mean?
- 48:55Speaker 5: Like, uh, Like I got further along because one Clue
- 49:01Speaker 5: became like like the big guy Paul, and then Envy
- 49:06Speaker 5: was the streets like for lack of a better term,
- 49:09Speaker 5: like he was the street streets like so if he
- 49:11Speaker 5: was on the Envy tape that it really meant something
- 49:13Speaker 5: like it really meant, And I was on all of them,
- 49:17Speaker 5: I think for at one point like, yeah, we don't.
- 49:19Speaker 1: Tell that story, why we don't make an audio documentary,
- 49:21Speaker 1: or maybe it should start with Clue. He was we
- 49:26Speaker 1: should do it doc I think both of y'all his own.
- 49:32Speaker 2: But the reason I was able to get distribution is
- 49:34Speaker 2: because Clue got so big. We helped them with his distribution.
- 49:36Speaker 3: So we started to duplicate his tapes his CD players,
- 49:39Speaker 3: which allowed me to use.
- 49:40Speaker 2: It when he was off.
- 49:41Speaker 3: So it was kind of like you know, you hear
- 49:42Speaker 3: all the time where they'd be like Nike runs a
- 49:44Speaker 3: factory from eight to five and the five to eighties
- 49:46Speaker 3: the blue leggs. So when he finished, I would just
- 49:48Speaker 3: run his machines for free, and and that way that
- 49:51Speaker 3: and that's how we just kept going and I would
- 49:52Speaker 3: know where his stores were, and we just followed the
- 49:54Speaker 3: Clue blueprint.
- 49:54Speaker 1: But we should do that, Clue, that's a great idea.
- 49:57Speaker 1: That's a great Do you know how many time me
- 49:59Speaker 1: Annoyed been in interviews to say we should do something and.
- 50:01Speaker 9: We say, actually, so because I've been I've been telling
- 50:05Speaker 9: him that for a long time, and not because I think,
- 50:07Speaker 9: like I think he's the type of person he don't
- 50:10Speaker 9: want to do it, like say it himself, but I
- 50:12Speaker 9: just think that there's a lot to learn and that's
- 50:14Speaker 9: where he shines at because it's real, like it actually
- 50:16Speaker 9: and when you go you I heard Juvenile talk about
- 50:18Speaker 9: NB being one of the first to play his songs
- 50:19Speaker 9: in New York, and I was like, what, Like, how
- 50:22Speaker 9: do you not tell you you records?
- 50:25Speaker 10: No, I'm just saying he also clips and all of them,
- 50:29Speaker 10: like they always say the records, but.
- 50:35Speaker 6: But you don't don't talk about it.
- 50:38Speaker 1: But don't you think that Maybe it's just me.
- 50:40Speaker 5: I feel like that as big as New York was
- 50:42Speaker 5: for the mixtape scene, I feel like they can't that.
- 50:45Speaker 1: Story don't get told. Like I feel like the.
- 50:47Speaker 6: Dramas and everybody all that and we're all inspired by
- 50:52Speaker 6: what happened in New York. We wanted to do that dramas.
- 50:55Speaker 6: Me there's guys on the West Coast like it's but
- 50:57Speaker 6: it all started here in New York.
- 50:59Speaker 5: And it's because colude don't tell the story because in
- 51:01Speaker 5: order to cool, telling story, and that's telling the envy
- 51:02Speaker 5: story that everybody's story is and it's twined to me.
- 51:05Speaker 3: But I also feel that the main reason I feel
- 51:08Speaker 3: no disrespect to New York rappers but New York. New
- 51:10Speaker 3: York rappers don't fuck with each other. So like if
- 51:12Speaker 3: you look at Drama, Drama still fucks with the people
- 51:14Speaker 3: that he helped, but he's still fucks with you. He
- 51:16Speaker 3: still fucks with future, he still fucks with all those individuals.
- 51:19Speaker 3: But but but I can't if I call to get
- 51:22Speaker 3: hold on the phone, I got a call through this
- 51:24Speaker 3: person and this person to get this person right.
- 51:26Speaker 2: And then most everybody don't really live in New York,
- 51:28Speaker 2: and no do they frequent.
- 51:29Speaker 3: So even with nor, of course I can get an
- 51:30Speaker 3: ormy on the phone, but given everybody else is just
- 51:32Speaker 3: too difficult.
- 51:34Speaker 2: The documentary, documentary or your conversation.
- 51:36Speaker 5: No not listen, let me let me not let you
- 51:39Speaker 5: downplay yourself. No, I can't let you do you could
- 51:42Speaker 5: make this happen. No no, no, no no no, because
- 51:45Speaker 5: you you know me and you Vally we deal with
- 51:48Speaker 5: the saying because like we were goos and we like
- 51:50Speaker 5: we would like to downplay a situation before we up
- 51:54Speaker 5: uplay it.
- 51:55Speaker 1: But let me just tell you something.
- 51:57Speaker 5: If you was the call for a whole right now,
- 52:00Speaker 5: for that documentary, I can almost guarantee you you're going
- 52:03Speaker 5: to get that.
- 52:03Speaker 3: Even the Empire strikes back the way. The only reason
- 52:06Speaker 3: I did it with Dame and j was because Clue
- 52:09Speaker 3: didn't want to do it. Because Clue was like, I
- 52:11Speaker 3: can't let you'all go a kiss because I play kissing
- 52:13Speaker 3: them on the radio. I didn't have no relationship with
- 52:15Speaker 3: kissing him back then. All I had my relationship was
- 52:17Speaker 3: I used to go to Rockefeller every day and beg
- 52:20Speaker 3: for records Bobby Dash g Lennys, and they knew my
- 52:23Speaker 3: face and it was like, let Vy do it.
- 52:25Speaker 2: And that's how that came about.
- 52:26Speaker 3: And Beanie Siegel could go at kiss because I didn't
- 52:28Speaker 3: have no relationship because but Clue was like that. But
- 52:30Speaker 3: that's how my relationship with oving them came. And even
- 52:32Speaker 3: when I did my album, I was like, I cannot
- 52:34Speaker 3: do it. I cannot finish this album without a whole record.
- 52:37Speaker 3: And he flew in did it pay him thirty thousand
- 52:39Speaker 3: dollars consecutive bills in a Nike shoe box and that's yeah.
- 52:42Speaker 1: Yeah. Let me just say you something that Era is golden,
- 52:48Speaker 1: Its golden, golden.
- 52:49Speaker 5: And especially I love the fact that it's the mixtape
- 52:52Speaker 5: that we focusing on because people like people don't even
- 52:57Speaker 5: understand a mixtape was actually a mixed tape, mix tape
- 53:01Speaker 5: at one point, and and yeah, nah, you deserve your flowers.
- 53:06Speaker 5: I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be honest with you,
- 53:08Speaker 5: like I'm a I'm a product of the mixtapes. If
- 53:11Speaker 5: it wasn't for mixtapes, I wouldn't have got signed. And uh,
- 53:16Speaker 5: if it wasn't like it was Clue and then Envy,
- 53:21Speaker 5: and then I would say case Lay a little bit later.
- 53:25Speaker 5: But these these these features meant so much and you
- 53:31Speaker 5: didn't have to have a feature, you know what I'm saying.
- 53:32Speaker 1: I was telling that the Nature the other day. I
- 53:34Speaker 1: was like, Yo, Nate Man, we were talking and I
- 53:37Speaker 1: was just like, man, like, I remember at one point.
- 53:40Speaker 5: You were hotter than nas Bro because of Clue, because
- 53:44Speaker 5: Nate would if you if you had that that first
- 53:49Speaker 5: record on that Clue tape, the world hated you. And
- 53:53Speaker 5: boy did is that truth I'm telling you. Like, if
- 53:59Speaker 5: you was on that first Clue tape for a song
- 54:03Speaker 5: you got signed, you probably made a million dollars. You
- 54:07Speaker 5: probably made like and then right after Clue, it was
- 54:11Speaker 5: Envy Boom like and you could tell that they put
- 54:14Speaker 5: each other each other on and once that it was over.
- 54:18Speaker 5: It was over, like it was literally like and then
- 54:22Speaker 5: like I met a person like e f N. E
- 54:25Speaker 5: f M was running in Miami. So uh, I would
- 54:29Speaker 5: just want to be on his tapes.
- 54:31Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, cool, just just book me on
- 54:33Speaker 1: the show with Miami. Like I wanted to do those
- 54:34Speaker 1: first show. Yeah, I wanted to. I wanted to go
- 54:36Speaker 1: see the girls in Miami. Hey, So I was like,
- 54:39Speaker 1: ah cool and so.
- 54:42Speaker 5: And and years later like you know what I mean,
- 54:43Speaker 5: Like I won't even give collar his props too, like
- 54:47Speaker 5: like he he was he was on the college radio.
- 54:51Speaker 1: What was that.
- 54:54Speaker 6: He was?
- 54:56Speaker 1: People just see like college sussess.
- 54:58Speaker 5: They don't see like like I tried to in them
- 55:00Speaker 5: earlier to come on at midnight, yeah sloop bb bb Yeah.
- 55:07Speaker 1: But uh yeah man, that whole era. Man, that whole
- 55:09Speaker 1: era has made us.
- 55:12Speaker 3: Uh another body else it's smooth splash too. But Cala
- 55:15Speaker 3: is another one that I think people down play a
- 55:19Speaker 3: lot because they.
- 55:19Speaker 1: See him up right now. They don't see that.
- 55:22Speaker 3: They don't see nobody wanted to play his record and
- 55:25Speaker 3: call it would just push and he would call call.
- 55:26Speaker 2: It was his own promotions person.
- 55:29Speaker 6: He would passes on flyers.
- 55:32Speaker 5: About a magazine cover of was It Yeah Mixed take
- 55:40Speaker 5: Back a mixtape magazine. How ironic that the other day
- 55:43Speaker 5: I saw that yeah yeah, man, like just like that era,
- 55:47Speaker 5: that era has to be.
- 55:49Speaker 1: Let's do it.
- 55:49Speaker 5: Audio scripted documentary Drink Champs Black Effect started around to
- 55:53Speaker 5: do the visual your fifty, the executive producer.
- 56:04Speaker 9: Participants were talking to I'm so serious, great.
- 56:07Speaker 5: Yeah, congratulations guys, and no exaggeration, like I'm not I'm
- 56:14Speaker 5: not glazing y'all, but likeaggeration. If I kept not coming
- 56:19Speaker 5: up here, I wouldn't have knew. I wanted to knew
- 56:23Speaker 5: that I had a future and media, like you know
- 56:28Speaker 5: what I mean, Like I said, like I was just
- 56:30Speaker 5: I was It's called rapt purgatory. I was stuck in purgatory.
- 56:35Speaker 1: I wasn't going to have it and I wasn't going
- 56:36Speaker 1: to hell.
- 56:39Speaker 5: I was just messed up and like in the mind,
- 56:42Speaker 5: like because you know, when you're the man on Monday,
- 56:45Speaker 5: it's hard to be the man on Wednesday. Man, you
- 56:47Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So like, and I was sitting
- 56:49Speaker 5: there and I kept calling up here. I knew I
- 56:52Speaker 5: was bothering y'all.
- 56:53Speaker 1: Like I knew. I kept calling up here and I
- 56:55Speaker 1: kept coming up.
- 56:56Speaker 5: Here I was and I was like, yo, I did
- 57:00Speaker 5: know what to do, but I knew that it was
- 57:02Speaker 5: something and this and this, this, this is primarily like
- 57:05Speaker 5: from me visiting here and look we ten years later
- 57:08Speaker 5: we are celebrating. Look at this the appiision guys are
- 57:12Speaker 5: doing y'all. Oh my god, Like I told her, I
- 57:14Speaker 5: keep telling.
- 57:15Speaker 1: Her like, Yo, you know, I get my news from
- 57:17Speaker 1: you like the phone when I call you.
- 57:23Speaker 5: But no, for real, Like it's like like it's like
- 57:27Speaker 5: what I was saying earlier, like like I really don't
- 57:31Speaker 5: have to go up We really don't have to go
- 57:32Speaker 5: outside our culture for no nothing, like we can actually
- 57:36Speaker 5: go see like it like like I'm sorry to keep
- 57:38Speaker 5: saying their names, but like if I want to hear
- 57:41Speaker 5: about sports, I actually.
- 57:43Speaker 1: Tune in the can. Know what I'm saying. I just
- 57:48Speaker 1: kept saying it, but actually tune in the can. Like
- 57:50Speaker 1: I've seen this morning.
- 57:51Speaker 5: He was on first take and I'm sitting there he
- 57:53Speaker 5: got the San Antonio hat on, and I'm like, he's
- 57:55Speaker 5: trolling us, but.
- 57:57Speaker 1: I know he had it on the cowboy hat, which
- 57:59Speaker 1: is like you know that I think he's Spurs fan. No,
- 58:01Speaker 1: I think.
- 58:05Speaker 5: Listen, no, no, no, this is what I think. I
- 58:08Speaker 5: think Cam was a genius. I think he's trying to
- 58:12Speaker 5: refers to curse. So like me and when I when
- 58:15Speaker 5: I used to root for them, they used to lose.
- 58:18Speaker 1: I think it's me. You know what I'm saying me
- 58:21Speaker 1: so uh yeah. So like the fact that we could
- 58:25Speaker 1: go to our own culture. He is a Spurs fan
- 58:29Speaker 1: of because of Rod Strickland. I saw him having this
- 58:32Speaker 1: conversation of the day Strickland used.
- 58:34Speaker 5: To play for this well, you know the famous nation line.
- 58:37Speaker 5: I went to games as a Knick fan. They had Strickland,
- 58:39Speaker 5: they traded them, and ever since then done, I hated them.
- 58:41Speaker 5: You remember that they said that so Rod Strickland was
- 58:45Speaker 5: a straight up n y. C uh god, I want
- 58:49Speaker 5: to say something. Let me just say something, Knicks fan,
- 58:52Speaker 5: we gotta calm down.
- 58:54Speaker 2: I've been saying that I do not like this.
- 58:57Speaker 1: I do not like this. Like I'm gonna be honest.
- 59:00Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I went to Jersey. I'm getting a pizza.
- 59:06Speaker 1: I see a guy he's in the cut with san Antonio.
- 59:11Speaker 2: And I'm just looking.
- 59:13Speaker 1: I wanted to be like, yo, bro, like I'm gonna
- 59:16Speaker 1: walk you to your car. Like, by the way, I
- 59:24Speaker 1: have never seen my city this united. That's true. I
- 59:27Speaker 1: have never seen my city this U night, Joe said.
- 59:29Speaker 1: The last time he saw it like this was after
- 59:31Speaker 1: nine eleven.
- 59:32Speaker 5: Yes, yes, but I'm gonna be honest, this might even
- 59:35Speaker 5: be more because I'm gonna tell you like this, the
- 59:39Speaker 5: Knicks is a new race.
- 59:41Speaker 1: If you're a Knicks fan, you're not black, you're not white,
- 59:45Speaker 1: You're a Nicker. You're a Nicker. It's truth.
- 59:51Speaker 3: But we can't do that because we go New York
- 59:54Speaker 3: fans go to other places, other venues, and we wear
- 59:57Speaker 3: our stuff.
- 59:58Speaker 5: Yeah, and here's the a deal, San Antonio. People with
- 1:00:02Speaker 5: the Spurs we got love for y'all. Don't try to
- 1:00:06Speaker 5: match our energy. Don't try.
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: I'm just gonna you're not gonna win. You might you might, No, No,
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: not not with the energy.
- 1:00:15Speaker 5: And by the way, I really do love my city
- 1:00:20Speaker 5: like I'm really like, I've been here. I was here
- 1:00:22Speaker 5: for Game three, I'm here today going to the game.
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Don't got no, No, it's not the prices.
- 1:00:32Speaker 5: I just I don't even got to connect like Joe, Yeah, yeah,
- 1:00:36Speaker 5: but he's already he's already sewn in and I believe
- 1:00:39Speaker 5: he's I don't know, but uh, I have no problem
- 1:00:43Speaker 5: watching it with like a regular person.
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: Yeah, Uhafer, yes, right down the block. Hold on, take
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: a shot for that Safer.
- 1:00:52Speaker 10: Doing the same security now, he said, Remember you said that,
- 1:00:54Speaker 10: like Knicks fans are not black with white, they knickers.
- 1:00:57Speaker 7: So the next time I'm like, what's up my knicker,
- 1:01:06Speaker 7: We're gonna look for that k But.
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I'm really proud. I'm really proud.
- 1:01:10Speaker 8: Uh.
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: And you know what's crazy. Uh?
- 1:01:12Speaker 5: You know I met Jayden Brunston's father and that whole
- 1:01:18Speaker 5: team when they came. I doubted them. I doubted them.
- 1:01:23Speaker 5: I was like, I was like, yo, man's I was
- 1:01:27Speaker 5: like town's hard like and they made me a believer.
- 1:01:33Speaker 5: It's like me, the next hurt me so much. For
- 1:01:37Speaker 5: years I used to be like, I'm from New York,
- 1:01:39Speaker 5: but still I be hating the next. I got that
- 1:01:41Speaker 5: on a rhyme like I actually said that they don't
- 1:01:43Speaker 5: let they don't. They don't let me lift that down,
- 1:01:45Speaker 5: neither ever telling my posts. They like, remember you said that.
- 1:01:48Speaker 5: Of course I said that they hurt me. I think
- 1:01:52Speaker 5: I I think I've never spoke to Reggie Miller.
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: Like I've been in.
- 1:01:58Speaker 5: I've been you need me, I've been in All Star
- 1:02:02Speaker 5: weekends every year and Reggie Miller will come in the
- 1:02:04Speaker 5: room and I walk out.
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: I don't want to.
- 1:02:06Speaker 11: I don't like.
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: That's how much he hurt me. He hurt me my
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: whole childhood.
- 1:02:11Speaker 5: Like sounds crazy, but it's true. It sounds crazy, but
- 1:02:14Speaker 5: it's true. Like like and I'm with Kenny Smith one
- 1:02:17Speaker 5: time and he just looking at me like, yeah, what
- 1:02:19Speaker 5: is wrong? Like Kenny Smith from Left Rack, and you
- 1:02:22Speaker 5: know they I believe that they threw a NBA party
- 1:02:26Speaker 5: and I went to Kenney's joint, and as soon as
- 1:02:28Speaker 5: I've seen Reggie Miller, I was like, no, man, I
- 1:02:30Speaker 5: can't do this.
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: Like I can't. And I realized I'm way too emotionally
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: attached Kenny.
- 1:02:38Speaker 5: No smoke, Kenny beat you all in the championship. Kenny
- 1:02:40Speaker 5: Smith is from Left Rack. He's from Left Rack, so yeah, anybody.
- 1:02:45Speaker 5: And I realized that even with Jordan, I was just like,
- 1:02:48Speaker 5: all right, cool. When I see Jordan, I'd be like, well,
- 1:02:51Speaker 5: I've only seen Jordan like twice, and and I walk
- 1:02:54Speaker 5: away like.
- 1:02:54Speaker 2: I'm speaking.
- 1:02:57Speaker 5: No sneakers, I'm speaking to no. I got sneakers on
- 1:03:00Speaker 5: right now, I speak to his son. I speak to
- 1:03:03Speaker 5: like Marcus Jordan. But I'm not talking about Jordan, the person.
- 1:03:08Speaker 5: I'm talking about Jordan, the person who killed the next
- 1:03:11Speaker 5: like it. It bothers me and so so now bringing
- 1:03:15Speaker 5: a full, full fledged and we get to see the city.
- 1:03:19Speaker 5: It's not it's not it's not even about the winning.
- 1:03:21Speaker 5: It's about the city coming together. And I'm sitting there
- 1:03:25Speaker 5: and I walked through the other day and this this
- 1:03:27Speaker 5: was the Israeli parade. I was out here this last Sunday.
- 1:03:31Speaker 5: I'm walking through, Yo. The police is opening up the
- 1:03:34Speaker 5: gates for me because I don't know.
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: I didn't realize I had on the New York I
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: don't know. Are you in Jersey. So the police is
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: like Nixon for and they opening up the gate for me.
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute, this is how we defeat racism.
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: This is this is the truth. Like we on one accord.
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: So you know the fact that we celebrating to an anniversary.
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: Big up to congratulations, great partners. I'm gonna do one more.
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: Three is my lucky number.
- 1:04:04Speaker 10: Because I want to tell you right now, listen, Okay,
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- 1:04:16Speaker 5: No, I didn't say, it's not fly. Just know how
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- 1:04:35Speaker 1: Okay, you know what that is why my wife.
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- 1:04:50Speaker 3: wait for her. Okay, that's that's that's the difficult part.
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- 1:04:57Speaker 1: A right, thank y'all.
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- 1:05:08Speaker 1: You're finish for y'all done,