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Obliterating the Climate Cult (Ep.219) · V

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Speaker 1: Like most young Americans growing up, I was taught in
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Speaker 1: school that climate change posed an immediate threat to humanity
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Speaker 1: and that the climate change movement was all about saving
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Speaker 1: the planet, about protecting nature, safeguarding my future from floods
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Speaker 1: and fires and famine. The world was going to end,
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Speaker 1: after all, if we failed to take action. It's a
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Speaker 1: terrifying message for a kid, traumatizing even, I'd say. A
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Speaker 1: fearful American populace has been told repeatedly for decades, if
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Speaker 1: you just hand over a little more control, pay a
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Speaker 1: little more in taxes, and let the experts run the show,
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Speaker 1: we will stop the warming, heal the earth. But the
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Speaker 1: truth is, it was never really about the climate. The
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Speaker 1: so-called climate emergency has become the most effective vehicle for
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Speaker 1: expanding government control in modern history. It's the perfect crisis,
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Speaker 1: global in scope, invisible to the naked eye, and endlessly adjustable.
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Speaker 1: And worst of all, it comes with no expiration date.
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Speaker 1: You'll never be green enough. You'll never sacrifice enough. There
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Speaker 1: will always be another tipping point just around the corner.
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Speaker 1: And behind it all is a movement that claims to
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Speaker 1: love science, yet shuts down debate, censors dissent, and treats
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Speaker 1: climate models like sacred scripture. These are the same models,
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Speaker 1: by the way, that have predicted catastrophe for decades and
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Speaker 1: still can't get it right. Remember ice-free Arctic by 2013?
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Speaker 1: Never happened. Meanwhile, the very people screaming about carbon footprints
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Speaker 1: are flying private jets to Davos and lecturing all of
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Speaker 1: us on composting sandwiches. John Kerry burns more jet fuel
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Speaker 1: in a week than most Americans do in a year.
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Speaker 1: And he still wants you to ride a bike and
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Speaker 1: eat bugs. And let's talk about green energy. You're not
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Speaker 1: saving the planet. You're just outsourcing pollution. These solar panels
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Speaker 1: and EV batteries, they're built with materials mined in countries
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Speaker 1: with child labor, no safety standards, zero environmental oversight. But hey,
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Speaker 1: as long as the smog is over Congo or China
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Speaker 1: and not California, the climate cult leaders pat themselves on
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Speaker 1: the back and call it progress. What the climate agenda
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Speaker 1: has really become is a war on modern life, a
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Speaker 1: war on abundance, a war on basic freedoms. They want
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Speaker 1: to regulate what you drive, how you heat your home,
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Speaker 1: what you eat, even whether you can own property. It's
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Speaker 1: degrowth disguised as virtue. It's about managing the population, clearly
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Speaker 1: not protecting it. What we're dealing with is authoritarianism wearing
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Speaker 1: a green mask. And we're not deniers for calling it out.
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Speaker 1: We're defenders of rational energy policy, national sovereignty, and economic sanity.
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Speaker 1: If we really cared about clean air and water, we'd
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Speaker 1: unleash innovation. not shackle it with UN talking points and
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Speaker 1: ESG scorecards. What was supposed to be about protecting the
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Speaker 1: planet has clearly morphed into dismantling the foundations of the
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Speaker 1: free world. We're not going to let it happen quietly. Today,
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Speaker 1: I am joined by one of the fiercest fighters against
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Speaker 1: the climate cult, Mark Morano, founder of ClimateDepot.com and the
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Speaker 1: author of Politically Incorrect Guide to Climate Change, and Green Fraud,
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Speaker 1: Why the Climate Green New Deal is Worse Than You Think,
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Speaker 1: and The Great Reset, Global Elites, and the Permanent Lockdown. Mark,
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Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Avita. Happy to be here. A great opening.
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Speaker 2: I just want to add one thing you talked about.
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Speaker 2: There is no criteria by which they will ever say,
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Speaker 2: we've solved the crisis. Thank you for all your work.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for giving up gas-powered cars and red meat
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Speaker 2: and controlling your thermostat and travel. We've done it. I
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Speaker 2: was in Paris at the UN Paris Agreement 2015, and
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Speaker 2: they literally said, our children and grandchildren will thank us
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Speaker 2: for this historic day. This is the day we've saved
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Speaker 2: the planet. President Obama, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, all the
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Speaker 2: international leaders. And then a year later, guess what? It
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Speaker 2: was a redo. We had to save it all over again.
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Speaker 2: And every year we keep saving it. There's nothing we
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Speaker 2: can do that would ever satisfy them. And you're exactly right.
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Speaker 2: It's all about control. And it's actually... It's an even
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Speaker 2: more sinister plan, as we now know, since COVID, and
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Speaker 2: that's what my book, The Great Reset, was about. It's
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Speaker 2: a corporate government collusion that takes away our democracy. In
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Speaker 2: other words, you declare an emergency and you basically become
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Speaker 2: a dictator. We saw that happen with the COVID restrictions.
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Speaker 2: And they tried to do that. And by demonstration, they
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Speaker 2: were going to declare a climate emergency and become a
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Speaker 2: climate dictator. And that's one of the greatest things we face.
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Speaker 2: And corporations working closely with government and subsidies and the mandates,
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Speaker 2: they were able to impose this upon Americans without a
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Speaker 2: single vote. And we saw that particularly in the world
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Speaker 2: of gas powered cars. You had the World Bank telling
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Speaker 2: automakers they're not going to fund gas powered cars. You
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Speaker 2: had corporate banks saying they weren't going to. allow car loans,
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Speaker 2: continue to allow car loans for gas-powered cars. You have
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Speaker 2: cities in Colorado and California banning creation of new gas stations.
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Speaker 2: You had Gavin Newsom executive order, unelected bureaucrats. None of
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Speaker 2: it involved democracy. None of it involved the Congress or
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Speaker 2: the EU voting on any of this. It was just
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Speaker 2: imposed upon us. Same thing with meat, by the way.
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Speaker 2: You got Bill Gates Richard Branson, Bezos investing in the
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Speaker 2: lab-grown meat. They're gobbling up farmland in the case of
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Speaker 2: Bill Gates as America's single largest farmland owner, followed closely
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Speaker 2: by other billionaires and followed closely by China. And of course,
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Speaker 2: none of this was voted on either. It's just imposed.
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Speaker 2: And that was the goal of the climate movement, to
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Speaker 2: impose all of this by bypassing traditional democracy.
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Speaker 1: Well, you're so right, Mark. It's imposed and there's no
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Speaker 1: end in sight. I mean, this is something we've been
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Speaker 1: hammering for a long time, that there is no end goal.
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Speaker 1: There will always continue to be a crisis because the
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Speaker 1: goal is not actually to address an environmental crisis. It
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Speaker 1: is all of these other ulterior motives, which you've been
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Speaker 1: so good at pointing out, Mark. Now, we're in a
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Speaker 1: different space than we were just pre-Trump admin. So President Trump,
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Speaker 1: he's really trying to combat the climate cult. He withdrew
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Speaker 1: from the Paris Climate Agreement. Second time he's done that.
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Speaker 1: He's clawed back $ 3. 7 billion in green energy and manufacturing awards.
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Speaker 1: He's investing in actually reliable and genuinely effective American energy independence.
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Speaker 1: He has rescinded, I love this, $ 4 billion from the
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Speaker 1: UN's Green Climate Fund, which is basically just promoting eco-imperialism abroad.
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Speaker 1: So he's making moves, Mark. But in your view, what
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Speaker 1: else still needs to be done?
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Speaker 2: Great question, because Trump 1.0 was fantastic. Did almost verbatim
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Speaker 2: everything you said. It just went through that list. Maybe
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Speaker 2: not as much. But it had no permanence. So I
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Speaker 2: would argue within six months of Joe Biden's presidency in 2021,
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Speaker 2: most of Trump's first term climate and energy accomplishments were overturned.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So this time around, they realize that this time around,
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Speaker 2: first of all, you know, the the most The consequential
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Speaker 2: EPA director in history is Lee Zeldin. Lee Zeldin gets this.
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Speaker 2: And so there's two prongs that Donald Trump needs to do, 2.0,
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Speaker 2: that he did not do in 1.0. And they're actually
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Speaker 2: sounding like they're going through this. First of all, Lee Zeldin, EPA.
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Speaker 2: They want to go after the endangerment finding, get rid
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Speaker 2: of this finding, which piggy banks on the 1990 Clean
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Speaker 2: Air Act and basically adds, just out of executive fiat,
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Speaker 2: carbon dioxide is now an air pollutant and we can
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Speaker 2: regulate it as such.
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Speaker 1: What?
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Speaker 2: That was never in any Clean Air Act going back
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Speaker 2: to the 1970s, going back to the 1990s. They just
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Speaker 2: sort of inserted it. And so Obama's administration started this,
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Speaker 2: and then Biden really went to town with this, regulating,
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Speaker 2: we inhale oxygen, we exhale carbon dioxide. For the first
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Speaker 2: time in U.S. history, we were having our breath regulated
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Speaker 2: as a pollutant, toxic substance under the Clean Air Act.
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Speaker 2: What Lee Zeldin wants to do is go after this
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Speaker 2: so-called endangerment finding, which goes back again to the Obama
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Speaker 2: administration in 2007, and they want to overturn this using
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Speaker 2: new science, using a bunch of regulatory schemes, using a
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Speaker 2: way to vacate it. If he can successfully do it,
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Speaker 2: and there are multiple legal strategies, that would make the
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Speaker 2: underpinning of gas-powered car bans, meat restrictions, thermostat control, solar
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Speaker 2: wind mandates, It strips that away because one of the
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Speaker 2: things that every blue state governor, that all of our
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Speaker 2: legislators have done, the green energy have promoted is, well,
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Speaker 2: according to our own EPA, this CO2 is an endangerment
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Speaker 2: which needs to be regulated. So they would turn, again,
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Speaker 2: human breath into, well, this is pollution. This is now
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Speaker 2: pollution we're fighting. No, it's not the same as soot
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Speaker 2: or carbon monoxide. So that was one thing. And the
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Speaker 2: second thing, and this is significant, And it's actually probably
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Speaker 2: not as legally hard. There's two options. Donald Trump can
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Speaker 2: vacate the United States from the abomination of the 1992
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Speaker 2: Rio Earth Summit Treaty that George H.W. Bush, the first Bush,
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Speaker 2: got us into in the fall of 1992. He went
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Speaker 2: down to Rio, signed this big Earth Treaty. in order
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Speaker 2: to try to defeat Bill Clinton. And of course it failed.
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Speaker 2: He wanted to appear green. And that treaty led to
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Speaker 2: sustainable development, the Agenda 2030 coming into the United States,
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Speaker 2: and also all the entire United Nations climate process, the
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Speaker 2: UN Paris Agreement, Copenhagen, the annual meetings, the UN delegation,
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Speaker 2: the climate slush funds, the Green Fund, all the stuff
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Speaker 2: you just mentioned. Donald Trump can pull us out of
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Speaker 2: that initial treaty and the other thing he can do
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Speaker 2: is submit the UN Paris Agreement as a treaty to
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Speaker 2: the Senate, which Obama signed in 2015, submit it to
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Speaker 2: the Senate to be rejected. If it's rejected, Both of
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Speaker 2: those things, or even one or the other, would make
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Speaker 2: it extremely difficult for the next president to get us
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Speaker 2: back in to the United Nations climate process. Say, President
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Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom, or I'll even go further, President Nikki Haley.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of Republicans who would love to get
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Speaker 2: us back into this. Remember, every nominee before Donald Trump
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Speaker 2: Mitt Romney, John McCain, George W. Bush. I guess it
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Speaker 2: wasn't too much of an issue. I guess Bob Dole
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Speaker 2: really didn't deal with it as a nominee. But and
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Speaker 2: George H.W. Bush all supported basically that U.N. agenda and
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Speaker 2: the U.N. So Donald Trump was the first guy to
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Speaker 2: ever stand up to this climate agenda.
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Speaker 1: So this is incredible, Mark. And so, first of all,
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Speaker 1: some of this is kind of news to me, like
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Speaker 1: this U.N.
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Speaker 2: Project.
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Speaker 1: But I want you to go back to the first
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Speaker 1: thing you were telling me. And Can you clarify a
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Speaker 1: little bit why you're indicating that it's going to be
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Speaker 1: legally difficult to take away all these signals and end
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Speaker 1: justifications for these state policies that the federal government is
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Speaker 1: basically handing the climate cultists?
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Speaker 2: Yes, and there's one phrase why, the Supreme Court. In 2007,
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Speaker 2: when they announced this endangerment, this idea that CO2 was
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Speaker 2: a pollutant, the Supreme Court ultimately ruled that you could
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Speaker 2: regulate carbon dioxide as a pollutant. We had a science
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Speaker 2: trial of sorts to the Supreme Court. It was a
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Speaker 2: horrible trial where even the skeptical side barely argued in
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Speaker 2: favor of the skeptical side. But the justices at the
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Speaker 2: time allowed the federal government to do it, which when
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Speaker 2: Obama got elected, he happily wanted to do that. And
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Speaker 2: of course, Biden took it many steps further. So because
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Speaker 2: you have that Supreme Court ruling, because it's the law
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Speaker 2: of the land, you know how about Roe v. Wade
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Speaker 2: and all that? That takes a long time, potentially. But
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Speaker 2: there's legal strategies, and that's what Lee Zeldin is looking into.
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Speaker 2: There's ways they can do a whole new endangerment finding
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Speaker 2: where they're going to literally bring in skeptical scientists, have
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Speaker 2: a whole testimonies and hearings and produce a whole new
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Speaker 2: report that would then have to face legal scrutiny and
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Speaker 2: regulatory scrutiny. And there's the whole strategy of getting rid
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Speaker 2: of this CO2 endangerment finding is probably going to take years.
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Speaker 2: But it can be done in Trump's first term. But
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Speaker 2: it's a minimum of a year, maybe two years. The
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Speaker 2: other option is you can just vacate the strategy and
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Speaker 2: then allow court cases to pile up. and save a
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Speaker 2: scientific case or counter case for a court case. And
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Speaker 2: it's gonna start out at federal district level and eventually
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Speaker 2: probably move back up to the Supreme Court. It's a mess,
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Speaker 2: but it's something that the first Trump administration openly said,
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Speaker 2: we're not going there. They just didn't wanna deal with it.
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Speaker 2: And that was a mistake because you ended up with Obama,
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Speaker 2: ying on climate, Trump, yang, and then ying, yang, ying, yang.
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Speaker 2: We can't do that anymore. It is a trope, but
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Speaker 2: it is true that industry likes and Americans like regulatory certainty.
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Speaker 2: So we don't want every four years energy policy going
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Speaker 2: back and forth. And that's one of the things we
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Speaker 2: have to start doing. So that's a big one. And
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Speaker 2: as far as the UN one, It's probably less of
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Speaker 2: a big deal, but it's important because we want to
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Speaker 2: get out of this whole net zero UN climate process
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Speaker 2: for good. And by the way, I've been to 21
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Speaker 2: out of the last 23 UN climate summits. This will
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Speaker 2: be my 22nd coming up in Belém, Brazil. And they're
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Speaker 2: going to be they've already clear cut tropical rainforest. You
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Speaker 2: can't make this up. Clear cutting tropical rainforests in order
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Speaker 2: to highlight how they're saving the rainforests in Brazil so
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Speaker 2: that they can bring in all the traffic expected for
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Speaker 2: the UN climate summit. They're literally mowing down thousands of
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Speaker 2: acres and they're displacing the local native population, the indigenous populations,
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Speaker 2: all kinds of outcry there. But I'm going to this summit.
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Speaker 2: This will be the first time in my lifetime, Avita,
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Speaker 2: that there appears to be no U.S. delegation being sent
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Speaker 2: to this process. It looks as though Donald Trump's going
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Speaker 2: to pull the U.S.
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Speaker 1: Out.
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Speaker 2: And there will be no official delegation. I'll probably be
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Speaker 2: the only U.S. representative, so to speak, but I won't
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Speaker 2: be official government. But that'll be the first time. And
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Speaker 2: that is progress. That sends a message to the world
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Speaker 2: that not only are we not playing anymore, but we're
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Speaker 2: not even pretending to play. Because even though Trump did
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Speaker 2: a great job the first term, again, nothing was permanent,
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Speaker 2: they did send their delegations to all these U.N. summits,
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Speaker 2: and they still played with them. In fact, if you
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Speaker 2: look at the rhetoric from Trump's first term, They said
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Speaker 2: many things like, well, we would do a U.N.-Paris agreement
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Speaker 2: could work, but it's just not enough in America's favor.
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Speaker 2: Forget that. What's amazing is Donald Trump, Lee Zeldin, Chris Wright,
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Speaker 2: all literally saying the right things. This is a climate cult.
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Speaker 2: It's a climate religion. This is a scam. They call
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Speaker 2: it the Green New Deal, the Green New Scam. I've
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Speaker 2: never seen the narrative shift like I've seen in my lifetime.
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Speaker 2: In fact, it's more than I ever even hoped for.
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Speaker 2: We have a group of about several dozen climate activists
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Speaker 2: that actually meet on a weekly basis, climate skeptic activists,
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Speaker 2: I should say, and energy realists. And we actually came
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Speaker 2: up with a top 10 list for Donald Trump and
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Speaker 2: his administration to do. Within the first two weeks, it
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Speaker 2: was accomplished. For the first time in our lives, we
15:48
Speaker 2: were like, wait a minute, we weren't ambitious enough for
15:51
Speaker 2: this goal because we just didn't expect it. especially on
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Speaker 2: these issues. I know people are upset. Maybe there's some
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Speaker 2: other issues that aren't progressing as fast. But this has
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Speaker 2: been on climate energy in this whole UN process and
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Speaker 2: the EPA. I've never seen anything as rapid, as fast
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Speaker 2: and as far reaching as they've accomplished.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's incredibly positive, Mark. And first of all, I'm
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Speaker 1: shocked by the story about the rainforest. I can't believe
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Speaker 1: they're cutting it down for their climate conference and displacing
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Speaker 1: indigenous people in the area. I mean, it's a wild story.
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Speaker 1: So it seems to me like what you're saying is
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Speaker 1: they're doing the best they can, but we have entrenched
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Speaker 1: climate policy that's been around for a long time. It's
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Speaker 1: going to take time to get rid of. It's going
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Speaker 1: to be very difficult. So they're doing the best they can.
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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about something that people
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Speaker 1: don't always consider when we talk about the environmental issues
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Speaker 1: or the climate cult. And that's tariffs. Because, Mark, you
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Speaker 1: and I are actual authentic conservationists. I actually want to
16:56
Speaker 1: protect the natural environment. And if you want to protect
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Speaker 1: the natural environment, Mark, if you care about the world
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Speaker 1: and the planet, you actually have to care about what
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Speaker 1: other countries are doing. For instance, China. And for years,
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Speaker 1: we have outsourced industry abroad, especially to China, a country that, again,
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Speaker 1: heavily pollutes, not to mention is guilty of some of
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Speaker 1: the most egregious animal and human rights abuses of all time. Mark,
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Speaker 1: can you talk to me a little bit about what
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Speaker 1: the tariffs are doing to the authentic conservation?
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Speaker 2: It's absolutely phenomenal because if you go back about a
17:35
Speaker 2: decade now, there was a major economic analysis, and it's
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Speaker 2: proven true, 100% true. This came out in Canada that
17:43
Speaker 2: showed that whenever you go net zero, carbon taxes, climate policy, mandates,
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Speaker 2: et cetera, in the West, Europe, United States, Canada, New Zealand, Australia,
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Speaker 2: et cetera, all you end up doing is increasing global
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Speaker 2: CO2 emissions, period. And that might be counterintuitive, like, wait
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Speaker 2: a minute, we signed an agreement. Look, Europe is going
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Speaker 2: net zero. Look, Canada is going electric cars and Australia
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Speaker 2: and New Zealand are shutting down all their power plants
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Speaker 2: and they're All it means is you're relying on energy
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Speaker 2: from Venezuela, the Middle East, China, India, places with questionable
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Speaker 2: human rights record in the case, very much lower environmental
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Speaker 2: standards than Western nations. And you end up with more
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Speaker 2: resource extraction, which means to more emissions. So what we've seen,
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Speaker 2: and you can look at all the UN treaties, as
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Speaker 2: they've made more progress with climate treaties, Going back to
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Speaker 2: 1992 Rio, CO2 has continued to go up. So there's
18:43
Speaker 2: been no effect on that. And the reason is, is
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Speaker 2: because we're relying more and more on countries that make
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Speaker 2: this energy, particularly China. They're building two coal plants a week. Why?
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Speaker 2: Because they need it for all the mining and extraction
18:55
Speaker 2: for solar and windmills and the EV batteries. So they
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Speaker 2: are just pumping. If you were actually worried about CO2,
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Speaker 2: the last thing you would be is pro-solar power, pro-wind
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Speaker 2: power and pro-EVs. which makes us more dependent on China.
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Speaker 2: By the way, China, in response to the tariffs, is
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Speaker 2: now calling for a blockade. We're going to be holding
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Speaker 2: off on a lot of their rare earth mining, which
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Speaker 2: is going to create shortages. They're trying to create chaos. But,
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Speaker 2: sorry for that long thing, but here's the bottom line.
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Speaker 2: By Trump now imposing tariffs, particularly on China and on
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Speaker 2: these countries that... we're relying on for all of this
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Speaker 2: green energy, it means one thing. We're going to be
19:33
Speaker 2: using less of it and it's going to prioritize domestic
19:36
Speaker 2: energy production. When you use tariffs in the energy realm,
19:40
Speaker 2: you end up with more domestic. And what's better than
19:43
Speaker 2: more domestic? It's good for national security. It's good for economics, jobs.
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Speaker 2: It's good for environment globally. It's good if you cared
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Speaker 2: about reducing CO2 emissions. Tariffs create a win-win-win. If Europe
19:55
Speaker 2: had created tariffs, we would have probably much lower CO2 emissions.
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Speaker 2: It's a perverse... thing to think about, but the climate
20:02
Speaker 2: activists should have been promoting tariffs as a tool for
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Speaker 2: nations decades ago, but they never thought of it. Donald
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Speaker 2: Trump is a pioneer when it comes to green policy
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Speaker 2: by doing the US tariffs, because all it's going to
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Speaker 2: do is actually improve the environment. We have much better,
20:18
Speaker 2: whether it's recycling programs, whether it's cleanup programs for any
20:22
Speaker 2: energy extraction in the world and all of the West
20:25
Speaker 2: does over any of the developing world. Well, yeah, it's
20:27
Speaker 2: cheaper energy in many cases to get, but maybe not
20:31
Speaker 2: cheaper because you're still exporting it. Even we're talking about
20:33
Speaker 2: fossil fuels. But of course, when you're talking solar and wind,
20:37
Speaker 2: You know, I always say, like, EVs dig the earth,
20:39
Speaker 2: not in a Brady Bunch 1970s way, but in a
20:42
Speaker 2: half a million pounds of materials dug up from the earth,
20:45
Speaker 2: almost exclusively in China, about 80%, to make one Tesla-sized
20:50
Speaker 2: EV batteries. Half a million pounds of material to make
20:54
Speaker 2: one Tesla-sized EV battery. To make a windmill, solar panels,
20:57
Speaker 2: you're talking about tons of concrete, non-renewable plastic, cement. I mean,
21:02
Speaker 2: it's unbelievable the amount of resources that go into so-called
21:07
Speaker 2: green energy.
21:08
Speaker 1: It's such a scam, Mark. And the other scam is
21:11
Speaker 1: we're preventing people in the third world from actually developing.
21:15
Speaker 1: We're saying, you guys have to stay in the dark
21:17
Speaker 1: ages because if you actually developed, the world would boil over. Well,
21:22
Speaker 1: what hurts the environment, what is really bad for the
21:26
Speaker 1: climate is to have people poor. But poverty is like
21:31
Speaker 1: the greatest pollutant ever because people will be using real
21:34
Speaker 1: fires and they'll be throwing away garbage. Developed first world
21:39
Speaker 1: countries treat the environment much better than third world ones.
21:41
Speaker 1: And for some reason, The climate cult is hellbent on
21:45
Speaker 1: keeping the third world third world. Mark, I want to
21:48
Speaker 1: talk to you. Everything that they do seems to be
21:50
Speaker 1: so counterintuitive. I want to talk to you about Massachusetts
21:54
Speaker 1: Senate Majority Leader Cynthia Stone Cream. She introduced a bill
21:58
Speaker 1: this year to create a commission with the goal of
22:02
Speaker 1: reducing the number of miles driven by citizens in their
22:05
Speaker 1: cars in order to reduce the need for personal vehicles
22:08
Speaker 1: and fight climate change.
22:11
Speaker 2: Mark.
22:12
Speaker 1: Why is it that so many climate cultists seem obsessed
22:16
Speaker 1: with restricting freedom of movement? And mind you, a lot
22:20
Speaker 1: of these guys, at least at the top of the
22:22
Speaker 1: climate change movement, they're flying private jets to these climate conferences.
22:25
Speaker 1: So it's really hard for me to believe that there
22:27
Speaker 1: isn't another motive here.
22:29
Speaker 2: Well, there's absolutely another motive, and there's been another motive.
22:32
Speaker 2: This Massachusetts Democrat is really a minor leaguer, even though
22:35
Speaker 2: she's the top Democrat in the state of Massachusetts. Her
22:38
Speaker 2: name is Stone Cream, which is a funny name to me.
22:41
Speaker 2: But she literally wants to have mileage limits and restrict
22:46
Speaker 2: vehicle usage in the name of climate change because of
22:50
Speaker 2: reducing the emissions. It's another form of sort of a
22:52
Speaker 2: gas-powered car ban, except this time they're going to restrict
22:55
Speaker 2: your mileage. Now, nothing new in what she said. I
22:58
Speaker 2: can take you back When I was working in the U.S.
23:00
Speaker 2: Senate Environment and Public Works Committee during the Bush administration,
23:04
Speaker 2: they had proposals in Europe to have a CO2 budget
23:08
Speaker 2: for every man, woman, and child on the planet. And
23:11
Speaker 2: the idea was, this was from a U.N. official named Schulenhuber,
23:15
Speaker 2: And the idea was that the governments would monitor or
23:18
Speaker 2: an international body would monitor, who knows, some corporate government collusion,
23:22
Speaker 2: the amount of mileage you use, not only that, but
23:25
Speaker 2: your home thermostat, your energy use, your airline travel, and
23:28
Speaker 2: you would either get subsidies or credits or pay penalties
23:32
Speaker 2: for that. We had proposals in Europe at the time
23:35
Speaker 2: for employers to monitor their employees' carbon footprints, you know,
23:39
Speaker 2: how much they travel. Fast forward, most recently aside, we
23:43
Speaker 2: all know about the EV mandates and the gas-powered car bans,
23:47
Speaker 2: but we had CNN, huge article, and this is 2023,
23:51
Speaker 2: promoting carbon passports for our travel, for the government to
23:55
Speaker 2: monitor how much we travel. You had Air France actually
23:58
Speaker 2: go the first step of the Great Reset in 2023,
24:03
Speaker 2: I believe it was, June. They actually passed a ban
24:06
Speaker 2: on two-hour flights or less. In other words, you couldn't
24:08
Speaker 2: fly short haul, didn't apply to private jets, by the way,
24:11
Speaker 2: just as commercial. You had to force yourself into a car,
24:14
Speaker 2: a bus, or a train. And by the way, automobiles
24:17
Speaker 2: have a much higher death rate, so they actually were
24:18
Speaker 2: killing people by doing that. They couldn't fly that way.
24:22
Speaker 2: So this has been going on. The UK transport secretary
24:27
Speaker 2: for Boris Yeltsin, not Boris Yeltsin, but Boris Johnson in England, 2019,
24:32
Speaker 2: said owning a car was outdated 20th century thinking. And
24:36
Speaker 2: they have this whole idea. You have people running for
24:38
Speaker 2: office like Andrew Yang, who wanted to basically abolish private
24:42
Speaker 2: car ownership, force people into little short-term zip car type rentals. So,
24:47
Speaker 2: in a way, this Massachusetts Democrat is more of a
24:50
Speaker 2: moderate because she's not calling for a ban on car ownership.
24:53
Speaker 2: She's just calling for the government to monitor your miles
24:55
Speaker 2: and probably penalize you if you drive too much. This
24:58
Speaker 2: is part of that whole larger war. And again, Donald
25:01
Speaker 2: Trump is not only saving America from this, he's saving
25:04
Speaker 2: the West. We're seeing Argentina pile on. We're seeing Eastern
25:08
Speaker 2: Europe and all throughout Europe, the German elections, there's been
25:10
Speaker 2: a Trump effect. that's happening. But essentially, their goal was
25:14
Speaker 2: to ration and restrict energy, ration and restrict our freedom
25:18
Speaker 2: of movement, and ration and restrict our food supply. And
25:21
Speaker 2: those were among other things, like going after free speech
25:25
Speaker 2: and other things. But those three things were some of
25:27
Speaker 2: the bedrocks of it. And we're still seeing the Democrats
25:30
Speaker 2: like this in Massachusetts pushing that agenda in the United States.
25:33
Speaker 2: By the way, one other key victory as it relates
25:35
Speaker 2: to this was the Senate voted, and Donald Trump's about
25:38
Speaker 2: to sign, if he hasn't signed it already, the getting
25:42
Speaker 2: rid of this California waiver. It sounds like boring, bureaucratic,
25:45
Speaker 2: but here's what it goes back to. It's a waiver
25:47
Speaker 2: in the old Clean Air Act that allowed California to
25:50
Speaker 2: set its own auto emission standards. And by doing so,
25:54
Speaker 2: you ended up with Gavin Newsom in recent decades in
25:57
Speaker 2: California in general, setting U.S. auto policy and environmental policy
26:03
Speaker 2: because all these other states followed it, 11 states up
26:05
Speaker 2: to 40%. And so what happens is automakers had to
26:08
Speaker 2: kowtow to California and Gavin Newsom now has been stripped
26:12
Speaker 2: of that power because the Senate voted. And by the way,
26:15
Speaker 2: that's why one ding of Trump Too many, probably at
26:18
Speaker 2: this point, executive orders, too much invoking of wartime powers
26:21
Speaker 2: to get stuff. I understand you want to get it done,
26:24
Speaker 2: but I like to say things like what I just said,
26:26
Speaker 2: when the Senate and Congress actually votes, that's how you
26:29
Speaker 2: get more permanence. It's great that you can invoke some,
26:32
Speaker 2: I don't even like the wartime powers when Democrats do it.
26:34
Speaker 2: I'm not a big fan when Trump does it. But
26:36
Speaker 2: executive orders reach a limit. And I think we're almost
26:39
Speaker 2: at that, certainly in my world. I haven't studied it.
26:41
Speaker 2: And now we need the GOP Congress. We need Speaker Johnson.
26:45
Speaker 2: We need the Senate. We need them to start following
26:47
Speaker 2: through and legislating because that's how you get more permanence
26:50
Speaker 2: as well. You can't last time around. We never had that.
26:53
Speaker 2: We just had the Trump executive orders, which were overturned.
26:56
Speaker 2: And different agencies had different directors and changed policy. But again,
26:59
Speaker 2: that's all easily reversible with the next president unless Congress
27:03
Speaker 2: follows through and unless you take the steps like eliminating
27:06
Speaker 2: the endangerment, finding the CO2, and pulling us out of
27:09
Speaker 2: this whole UN framework.
27:11
Speaker 1: Listen, Mark, you're so right about that. And everybody on
27:13
Speaker 1: this show agrees that Congress needs to start acting. We
27:17
Speaker 1: have a very limited amount of time before we very
27:20
Speaker 1: likely lose Congress. And we're at a standstill. these days
27:25
Speaker 1: are critical and we're seeing not a lot of movement.
27:27
Speaker 1: I'll say about the freedom of movement thing, Mark, we've
27:29
Speaker 1: talked about on this show often, the rise of the
27:32
Speaker 1: surveillance state and the way that everything we do and
27:36
Speaker 1: say and even just think is being monitored. They are
27:42
Speaker 1: centralizing and synthesizing and creating profiles for people with all
27:48
Speaker 1: the information they possibly could in a very Orwellian way.
27:51
Speaker 1: And when you start limiting freedom of movement, and you
27:53
Speaker 1: couple that with the surveillance state, it starts to look
27:56
Speaker 1: very dystopian. And it makes me really take pause and wonder,
28:00
Speaker 1: what are the intentions here? I want to talk to you, Mark,
28:03
Speaker 1: about Greta Thunberg. She, of course, was so famous when she,
28:07
Speaker 1: I think she was 15 or 14 when she first
28:10
Speaker 1: gave that speech, where she said, how dare you? You've
28:13
Speaker 1: stolen our futures. And now she is still in the media,
28:18
Speaker 1: but not quite in the same way she used to be, Mark,
28:21
Speaker 1: she doesn't seem to have the same kind of institutional
28:25
Speaker 1: climate pull that she used to. I could be wrong
28:27
Speaker 1: about this, but the observation for me and for many
28:31
Speaker 1: others is that she has kind of gone a little
28:34
Speaker 1: bit more radically to the left and now doesn't have
28:37
Speaker 1: the same kind of institutional support that she used to.
28:39
Speaker 1: So Mark, I want to get your reaction to this.
28:41
Speaker 1: This is just a snippet of Greta's new messaging these days.
28:46
Speaker 1: She's really taken the climate activism to a A new
28:50
Speaker 1: political angle. Take a listen.
28:52
Speaker 4: Fossil fuel companies are not stealing our future. When we
28:56
Speaker 4: see the children of Gaza killed by Israel's war machine,
28:59
Speaker 4: their homes burnt, schools bombed and families destroyed, all fueled
29:03
Speaker 4: and funded by gas corporations like Chevron, what kind of
29:06
Speaker 4: future do we have if we cannot stop this genocide today?
29:10
Speaker 4: Because it's all connected. From owning and operating the two
29:13
Speaker 4: largest Israeli-claimed gas fields supplying Israeli genocide and apartheid to
29:18
Speaker 4: causing the world's worst oil-related environmental disaster, deliberately dumping over
29:23
Speaker 4: 60 billion gallons of oil waste into the Ecuadorian Amazon.
29:27
Speaker 4: Chevron has made it clear they do not care about
29:30
Speaker 4: our planet or people. But we are not powerless. Together
29:35
Speaker 4: we can hold Chevron accountable by stopping business as usual.
29:39
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29:44
Speaker 4: around the world will be participating in Anti-Chevron Day, a
29:47
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29:51
Speaker 4: complicity in Israeli genocide and apartheid. Join the Day of
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Speaker 4: Action and learn more about the BDS movement's BioLink, because
29:58
Speaker 4: a livable future means justice now, and there can be
30:01
Speaker 4: no climate justice without Palestinian liberation.
30:04
Speaker 1: So no climate justice without Palestinian liberation. And Mark, I'm
30:08
Speaker 1: fascinated by this. I really am, because it seems like
30:11
Speaker 1: she's losing a lot of the climate elite's institutional support
30:15
Speaker 1: as she's starting to get more radically left-wing and embrace
30:19
Speaker 1: the sort of, I don't know, the more.
30:23
Speaker 1: A pro-Palestine avenue.
30:25
Speaker 2: I don't know.
30:25
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by what's happened here and to her and
30:28
Speaker 1: what you make of perhaps her lack of support.
30:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, first of all, she's absolutely reaching there. I mean,
30:34
Speaker 2: you could go to any country with policies you disagree
30:36
Speaker 2: with and say, well, there's an oil company doing business
30:39
Speaker 2: with that country. We should, you know, they can't be
30:41
Speaker 2: doing that. Or you could do that with food companies.
30:43
Speaker 2: You could do that with anything. She's really reaching. Now,
30:46
Speaker 2: the story of Greta and why she has arrived at
30:48
Speaker 2: where she is, You have to go back. She was
30:50
Speaker 2: a creation, essentially, by the deep state or the environmental left,
30:55
Speaker 2: I will call it at that point, as a tool
30:57
Speaker 2: of the deep state. Her mother was an opera singer.
31:00
Speaker 2: Her father was involved in environmental groups. She never actually went.
31:03
Speaker 2: You remember the whole story of her? She skipped school
31:06
Speaker 2: to protest climate. She actually never went to school because
31:09
Speaker 2: she was at a homeschool program at the time. It's
31:11
Speaker 2: a minor point, more for comedic effect. But she never
31:13
Speaker 2: was actually in the classroom in that regard. And she
31:16
Speaker 2: actually started that with the blessing of the environmental establishment
31:22
Speaker 2: in Sweden, which then got picked up, and she became
31:25
Speaker 2: the spokesman for the UN. She was at every UN
31:27
Speaker 2: climate summit. I think it was in Madrid, 2019, when
31:31
Speaker 2: she was timed as the person of the year or
31:35
Speaker 2: whatever their motto is for her. She was their keynote.
31:39
Speaker 2: She was their ambassador on climate. She was the spokesman
31:42
Speaker 2: on everything. Well, what happened? By Scotland, which I was
31:45
Speaker 2: at that UN summit, Greta made an announcement. And this
31:48
Speaker 2: is where it went south for her with the climate agenda.
31:50
Speaker 2: She said that she is not attending the UN. She
31:53
Speaker 2: was becoming increasingly disheartened with them because the United Nations
31:57
Speaker 2: was nothing about greenwashing. And she called the whole process
32:00
Speaker 2: a scam that didn't do anything about climate change. That
32:03
Speaker 2: was music to my ears at the time. At the summit,
32:06
Speaker 2: I issued it. We had a press conference and issued statements.
32:09
Speaker 2: We support Greta. We rarely agree with her. But this
32:11
Speaker 2: is the first time she, and I actually think she
32:14
Speaker 2: was genuine. Here's the thing. I do think she's genuine.
32:17
Speaker 2: She looked at it. If she was brainwashed, you know,
32:19
Speaker 2: these were brainwashed since she was 13, 14 on this issue.
32:22
Speaker 2: And she was in the inner workings of the UN,
32:24
Speaker 2: giving speeches, seeing it all work, and was seeing literally
32:28
Speaker 2: no progress. Everything I just opened the show with telling
32:30
Speaker 2: you that emissions continue to go up. There's no criteria
32:34
Speaker 2: to solve this. It's all just rhetoric. They're all enriching themselves.
32:37
Speaker 2: It's all about climate slush funds. She recognized that. She
32:41
Speaker 2: was then booted. She didn't show up. The next year,
32:44
Speaker 2: they hired someone named, her first name is failing me,
32:48
Speaker 2: but her last name was Kanani, a blonde, Western-style spokeswoman
32:53
Speaker 2: who became the new ambassador by the United Nations. She
32:57
Speaker 2: was all over the place. Sophia was her name. Sophia
32:59
Speaker 2: Kanani essentially replaced Greta in the next couple summits, and
33:03
Speaker 2: she became the face of youth for the climate issue.
33:06
Speaker 2: So that was what happened to Greta. She was literally
33:10
Speaker 2: She left voluntarily and then was permanently removed from the
33:13
Speaker 2: climate movement. So now I think I'd hate to say
33:16
Speaker 2: some people said she's a hired gun for whatever liberal cause.
33:20
Speaker 2: I'm not I think she's a probably a true believer
33:22
Speaker 2: of what she gets involved in. I do think she
33:25
Speaker 2: was reaching there with her analogies about, you know, Palestine
33:28
Speaker 2: and the oil company and all that climate justice and nonsense.
33:31
Speaker 2: But I just think she's an activist without a home.
33:35
Speaker 2: She's rejected climate. Climate's rejected her because she doesn't like
33:39
Speaker 2: any of the way it's done. She ended up teaming
33:40
Speaker 2: up with a real radical in England, one of her mentors,
33:45
Speaker 2: who literally believes in stopping all modern agriculture and banning
33:50
Speaker 2: all production of meat. And George Monbiot is his name
33:54
Speaker 2: in England. So she became even more and more radicalized
33:57
Speaker 2: after she left the U.N. Think of what you will.
34:00
Speaker 2: But the U.N., the U.N. at least puts on the
34:02
Speaker 2: face of the mainstream and the patina of the establishment.
34:06
Speaker 2: Once Greta left that, she's now into her own activist world.
34:10
Speaker 2: And I think she's looking to risk her life. She's
34:13
Speaker 2: looking for some kind of martyrdom, because if you're looking,
34:15
Speaker 2: I'm hearing now they're going to be She's looking for
34:18
Speaker 2: like an armed confrontation where she has her life at risk.
34:21
Speaker 2: So I think she's either growing increasingly attention seeking or
34:24
Speaker 2: she's so into the the cause that she's willing to
34:28
Speaker 2: risk her life. We'll see how this turns out.
34:30
Speaker 1: Listen, Mark, I think she's lost the plot on on
34:32
Speaker 1: her analysis. I agree with you. But I do think
34:34
Speaker 1: that she's a true believer.
34:36
Speaker 2: I think so, too.
34:37
Speaker 1: I find her fascinating because she she obviously cares so
34:41
Speaker 1: deeply about this. And I don't agree with any of
34:44
Speaker 1: her policy prescriptions. And I think that her analysis about
34:47
Speaker 1: Palestine and Israel is wrong. But at the same time,
34:49
Speaker 1: I have to respect that she seems to actually care
34:52
Speaker 1: about the environment. And she called out these frauds, these
34:57
Speaker 1: green frauds who are liars, who say that it's about
35:01
Speaker 1: the climate. And we really know that, of course, it
35:04
Speaker 1: is not. And I hope that perhaps, and maybe I'm
35:07
Speaker 1: wrong about this, Mark, but I hope that perhaps more
35:10
Speaker 1: politicians radically left-wing people who actually care about the climate
35:14
Speaker 1: in an authentic way will notice how authoritarian and technocratic
35:19
Speaker 1: these climate cultists really are, because that's the true threat.
35:23
Speaker 1: I don't really care. If you want to be crazy
35:25
Speaker 1: and you want to compost and you don't want to
35:26
Speaker 1: use any energy, that's fine. Do that on your own.
35:29
Speaker 1: It is when we start to limit food supply and
35:32
Speaker 1: we start to limit freedom of movement for everybody that
35:36
Speaker 1: I get really concerned. So Mark, I don't know what
35:38
Speaker 1: your thoughts are on that. Do you think that there's
35:40
Speaker 1: a possibility that people on the left will start to
35:44
Speaker 1: wake up like Greta to what places like the UN
35:47
Speaker 1: and WF are actually about. Because we're seeing right now,
35:50
Speaker 1: even in MAGA world, a realignment where there are uncommon
35:55
Speaker 1: alliances being had. At parties that were traditionally separate, Republican
35:59
Speaker 1: and Democrat, the lines are getting blurred. And you have
36:01
Speaker 1: people like Batyongar Sargon, who we had on the show
36:04
Speaker 1: a while ago, who was a longtime Democrat, say, I
36:07
Speaker 1: love what Trump is doing. I can get behind this.
36:09
Speaker 1: Do you think that that's a possibility? Yes.
36:12
Speaker 2: In fact, I did a whole chapter on that in
36:15
Speaker 2: my book, The Great Reset. It's really, again, it goes
36:17
Speaker 2: back COVID-19. Looking back, the lockdowns may not have been,
36:21
Speaker 2: you know, maybe there was a, let me put it
36:23
Speaker 2: this way, there was a silver lining in it because
36:26
Speaker 2: I think it was a red pill moment for so
36:28
Speaker 2: much of the American left. You mentioned the Newsweek, I'm
36:33
Speaker 2: having trouble with names, Sorana Bacek.
36:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, Batya Ungar Sargon.
36:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sargon. Yes. And then you have add to that
36:39
Speaker 2: Jimmy Dore, add to that Naomi Wolf, add to that
36:43
Speaker 2: people like Dave Rubin and others and add to that
36:47
Speaker 2: the even Michael Schellenberger, who was pre-COVID, but he's another
36:51
Speaker 2: recent survivor. you know, relatively recent, a former Marxist who's
36:55
Speaker 2: now written eloquently. He's actually apologized for his role in
36:58
Speaker 2: the climate scare. But in the case of someone like
37:00
Speaker 2: Jimmy Dore, who was a progressive, he was on the
37:01
Speaker 2: Young Turks, he was considered real liberal, big Bernie Sanders
37:05
Speaker 2: supporter way back. He now says... And he does videos
37:08
Speaker 2: on this. I used to believe in climate change. I
37:11
Speaker 2: no longer trust anything they say. I realize we were
37:14
Speaker 2: lied to. And he does videos about the greening of
37:16
Speaker 2: the earth now. I mean, these are major things. RFK Jr.
37:19
Speaker 2: is probably the biggest example. This was a guy I
37:21
Speaker 2: interviewed at the 2014 New York City Climate March. He
37:24
Speaker 2: wanted to jail climate deniers, punish politicians who were skeptical.
37:28
Speaker 2: He wanted to put energy CEOs at the Hague in
37:32
Speaker 2: jail with all the other war criminals. And in his phrase,
37:35
Speaker 2: three squares and a cot. Three hot meals in a cot.
37:38
Speaker 2: And then he runs for president in 2023 when he announced,
37:43
Speaker 2: he said, I'm not going to talk about climate in
37:44
Speaker 2: this campaign. I don't care if you believe in it
37:47
Speaker 2: or not. I believe climate has now been hijacked by
37:49
Speaker 2: the World Economic Forum and the United Nations for totalitarian
37:52
Speaker 2: control of society. Boom. And that was done because of
37:56
Speaker 2: the COVID lockdowns. That's the kind of progress that climate
37:59
Speaker 2: skepticism has made and only in America and in the left.
38:03
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. I've never thought I'd see it so easily.
38:07
Speaker 1: Mark, that just makes me so happy. I sense that
38:10
Speaker 1: as well, but you've been following so much more. The
38:12
Speaker 1: way you just laid it out, it makes me really optimistic.
38:15
Speaker 1: We just have to keep pounding the drum on this
38:18
Speaker 1: one and continuing to tell people what this is all
38:21
Speaker 1: about by revealing the ulterior motives, which are so obvious.
38:25
Speaker 1: Just if you look at the way that these people
38:27
Speaker 1: live their lives, homes on the beach, they're not going
38:30
Speaker 1: to be underwater in five years if they have a
38:32
Speaker 1: mansion on the coast. private jets and SUVs. The entire
38:38
Speaker 1: thing is a farce. So Mark, I'm so grateful to you,
38:42
Speaker 1: to your insights, to the fight that you have been in.
38:45
Speaker 1: Where can people go to follow you and follow all
38:49
Speaker 1: the work that you've been doing?
38:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, go to climatedepot.com. And my most recent book is
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Speaker 2: The Great Reset, Global Elites and the Permanent Lockdown. I'm
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Speaker 2: also at Twitter at climate depot. Just wanted to add
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Speaker 2: one thing.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: China built two coal plants every week last year in 2024.
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Speaker 2: And 85 percent of the 21st century carbon dioxide emissions,
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Speaker 2: if you're a climate activist out there watching, will come
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Speaker 2: from China, India and Africa. So as you said earlier,
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Speaker 2: if you actually are still on this climate bandwagon, you're
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Speaker 2: going after the developing world. You're going to have to
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Speaker 2: pound Africans into submission not to develop like the West
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Speaker 2: and keep them locked in poverty. So it's now become...
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Speaker 2: increasingly immoral to even advocate these climate policies because we
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Speaker 2: already know the more you advocate UN style climate policies,
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Speaker 2: CO2 continues to go up because all you're doing is
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Speaker 2: outsourcing it to countries with poor human rights and emission
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Speaker 2: and technology. And we also know that the big CO2 bomb,
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Speaker 2: if you're worried about CO2, is coming from the developing
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Speaker 2: world in this whole century. So it's a fascinating world.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Avita, for the time to talk
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Speaker 2: about this. I appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: Well, you too, Mark. It does feel like such a farce.
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Speaker 1: Everything that they say ends up actually hurting the vulnerable
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Speaker 1: in society, the people that they claim to care about.
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