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Super Hard Javelina Hunt | Coatimundi with a bow! · The Bow Disciples Podcast

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And yeah, we got a lot to talk about.
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We just came back from a three-week hunt that kind of was
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in two separate locations, so about 10 days in each.
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Tell me about the hunt and how it went.
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Oh well you know love the first area, hate the second one.
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I will never return there. First one was great.
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You know, we chose that route because Teddy had two tags while
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we had one, and so our second place where we held A tag, Teddy
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did not. So figured, you know, might as
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well try to knock his out while we're there.
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At the beginning, everyone can deer hunt.
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And that was, you know, it took I think what a few 3 or 4 days
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before we actually saw the first group of Javelina there.
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I don't remember, maybe a few days.
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Yeah, and then we were seeing them.
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I do you know that I did not in 20 days glass a single javelina.
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Yeah, that's wild. I glassed quite a few, but it
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was, yeah, they were a lot more plentiful in the first unit.
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So for sure they we basically they're the state we were in has
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hunt quotas. So the second unit we were
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hunting, you could not deer hunt.
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And only Brianna, myself, Matt and Scott, who unfortunately
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couldn't come on the trip, had javelina tags in that unit.
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Tov had one in a unit where the deer quota was open and he had A
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tag. And yeah, a lot more javelina in
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that unit. Lot of deer in both I would say.
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I think overall we probably saw a slightly better caliber of
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bucks in the second unit, although the best, biggest buck
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we saw was in the first unit. But after that there was a
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pretty, pretty good drop off to the rest of the bucks we're
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seeing. But it was just a rough year for
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antler growth. Think it was pretty dry and it
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was definitely reflected. I didn't see a single deer I
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even thought about stalking, which I normally I'll see 1, so
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I didn't then. I guess we'll get to that.
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Like I did a lot of stocks on deer with the camera that
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probably did 12, I bet 12 to 15, but I did not do a single one
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with the bow so. Yeah, I got to feel bad this
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year about, you know, like you not getting to go on as many
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just because like you are. I wouldn't call it picky or
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you've just shot enough in your life that like you're there's no
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interest in going after a, you know, great if you weren't a
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slightly you're starting to become more and more intrigued
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and and for Kasaurus. He was a very nice bucket and
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yeah, super nice buck. But you had developed a bit of a
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history with them and Tov and I got close one time randomly too.
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So it was fun kind of being around that that buck a lot.
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And something important to remember is that it's a split
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season tag. So that's part of the reason
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January is the very first portion that you can hunt the
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tag and then there's portions two other seasons later in the
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year, so. It's a strange thing because you
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buy for archery, you buy your tag.
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If you're lucky enough to get it in time in whatever it is like
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November or something for the season to start up in January.
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But the quotas do not renew at at the same time, which I think
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they do because of the the rut season and to minimize, you
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know, degradation of the deer population.
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But so you go out January 1st when your tag opens, but units
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just can start closing left and right that are on their last,
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you know, it's their last hoorah before August when the quote is
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renew. So it's kind of interesting
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because in a sense you're like, it's the beginning of your year
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with that tag, but it's the end of the quota season.
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So you're you're kind of like where maybe there are nicer
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quality of bucks. A lot of those units are already
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closed, the more you can even get there.
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Actually, a lot of the units with the biggest deer don't ever
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close, but they're much tougher to hunt.
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They're like, you know, desert type stuff.
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Oh yeah, we never. Well, you have.
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I'm sure in the past I have never been like a true desert
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unit. Yeah, you have.
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I think you just don't know what the desert is.
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I. Wouldn't call those mountainy
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ones desert. They are desert first.
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Desert. I would be like rolling sand.
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They're. Called High Desert, High Desert
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is what they're. Called.
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That's high desert. I want low desert.
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I don't think you know what you're talking.
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About I want low desert, you know, like the Sahara.
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OK, I have haunted that one time.
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Yeah, sure. Like I don't think I would enjoy
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it though. I just applied for Elks.
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I was exciting, applied for elk and pronghorn and then I'm going
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to be applying in March for more states I want to.
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Offer a bit of a subject change and we hadn't finished
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discussing all the hunts yet. I.
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Was just thinking about hunting, but yeah, the hunt was good.
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We got some really, really good deer stocks and some phenomenal
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footage. I mean, I was talking to a buddy
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about it the other day and I think once I do the hunt video,
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like probably maybe 2 videos from it, 2-3 videos, I want to
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release the raw clip, no editing of us having two different buck
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shots back-to-back. And I never, I never hit stop on
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record. So it's the most epic, like
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whatever, 3 minutes of footage like you'll ever see.
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So I think at some point I'm just going to put up a raw clip
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of the whole thing and let people watch it with no cuts
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because it was so crazy, you know?
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Yeah. Well how do you think about
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that? Getting two shots on deer Frick
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and back-to-back was insane. Yeah.
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So because we missed the 1st. One we knew for sure.
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I mean, it was maybe 22 yards when we kind of rechecked
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afterwards, but when I knew as soon as you pointed, turned me
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and pointed out where he was about to be, that there was next
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to no shot in hell. Well, there was a window, but.
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You was Yeah. And he did.
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He was not in his butt, was in the window.
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Like if I wanted to be AAD word. Never do that.
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Yeah. Did you think about shimmying at
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all? Maybe moving right or left a
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little. No, no, granted, he was.
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So again, hindsight's always 2020 and sometimes that never
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works out. You know, they bolt when you
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move. But he was.
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So he was alert in a sense. But it was only because of how
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and when you see the footage you'll understand like how
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rutting that buck was that I think maybe I could have
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shimmied and he would not have. He looked like when you watched
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the clip, like you said, like I didn't.
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I noticed he squatted, like actually squatted when he
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stopped and looked at us. But it wasn't until afterwards
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that I registered that he was literally squatting to take a
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peek. Well, and to rub his glands
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together. Yeah.
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And so I think I could have gotten away with a shimmy.
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Well, it's hard. I mean you, you know, even
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though you have shot a few things on the ground level now
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in your archery career, still not a ton.
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So you're still learning how fast stuff can change and move
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and. Happen and how fast when you're.
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Ground. Move not just not just how the
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scenario can move quickly, but how you have to like
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instantaneously be able to read the animal and what it's doing
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and its body movements and how alert it is.
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But in like I just had in different ways and it takes a
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lot to get, I mean like instantaneous at that, fast at
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that. And so there's like almost
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always a hindsight 2020 should have could have done this.
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But nonetheless, the clip is crazy because you just watch
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that branch get cut in half. And if you put that thing in
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slow mode, though, I think it'll probably be a little grainy.
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You see my air go. Off to the.
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Moon. Well so you had like 1 stock and
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then if your arrow had hit left or right it would have gone
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right through. Perfect.
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But unfortunately you did the one thing that you couldn't and
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it was teed up the freaking thing.
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Perfect, which is? The Pucker.
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Which in a way is good because you didn't harm the deer.
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Your arrow went way to the moon. But I mean, yeah, it was it was
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one of those shots where it wasn't like you're shooting
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through a thick, dense Bush. It was like 1 stalk and then
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pretty open. And you just needed luck on your
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side to miss one way or the other.
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And you, you unfortunately teed up the branch.
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Perfect. But so then the buck darts off,
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right? Yep.
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And then we turn and the other one is still on a string coming
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right to us. Yeah.
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And he already, what's crazy is like he already was not
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necessarily on a string because my assumption as we watched him
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come, you know, those, the first one with the doe came down the
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hill and they kind of they were coming toward us, but like on a
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leftward path, you know, like this, This Is Us, this is them.
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And I just kind of assumed again, you, you can only assume
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that they're likely going to follow the same trail and set.
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But as I was watching him, he wasn't, he was just directly
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facing us, made it all the way down to the bottom of the, the
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hill. And that's when the other one
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popped up right next to us. So like, I took my eyes off of
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that because we turned and focused on that and it didn't
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pan out. And then we turned and looked
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back at him and he was just coming just nowhere, not taking
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the trail that those ones did. Just I mean, when you say
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straight at us, it was literally straight at us.
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I had ranged A prickly pear at 53.
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I had ranged the one he was at the four at 100.
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And dumb me just again, hindsight's 2020.
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Sometimes like you lose sight of like shots can end up close,
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close range. And I ranged nothing before 53.
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And so this deer is moving on a string on a clip straight to us.
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And all I could do is just whip out and try to arrange a couple
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of things. And I had arranged one thing and
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he was already passing it. And so I just turned and
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arranged something as close as possible to me and it was 30 on
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the dot. And as I'm lowering the range
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Finder to put it down, he's passing it.
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That's how speedy he's like, he's just walking leisurely.
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The deer walk fast when they're not stopping and feeding and
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stopping and feeding. And so I had to take it.
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I would call it an educated, unmarked guess.
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Yeah, yeah. I mean.
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Something I had. Something that's not unmarked.
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Yeah, that's. It is unmarked.
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It is. You don't have a range on.
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I don't consider that unmarked. If you know something is like 25
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yards and then say something's passed and if you you at least
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can go heads probably like whatever 32 like a guess off of
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something unmarked is like you're in a field and someone
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put something out there and they're like how far is that?
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That's why I call it educated unmarked because because marked
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is marked you have rather range the animal or something it is
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standing right next to and I do not have that.
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So I would still call it an educated unmarked because you
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still don't have a marked range of the animal or something
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that's standing next to. I would say that that is a very
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you. You hardly ever get a exact
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yardage and shoot something when you're hunting spot and stalk on
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the ground. I think usually it's what you
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call educated unmarked. That's most my.
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Where I range he moved though he he walked sideways I would say
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about 7 yards to me that is not yes like like when we go out we
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start ranging bushes and junipers and and cactus and
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whatnot so that like if they pass those things we know what
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those ranges are but. Educated.
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Unmarked. I still wouldn't call that
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educated unmarked because if they're passing right by it then
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that is the range like they're in line with it's.
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Probably off by a few. At least you know.
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I would say a few. It depends, you know, But again,
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I think that's very common in spot and stock hunting is like
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I've probably shot 3/4 of the stuff where it's like I made a
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had a range for 47 and it's like he's probably right around 47,
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but could be 51, could be 44. That also works for you because
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you're shooting a 70 LB boat and 29 1/2 inch straw.
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Yeah, that's why I think it's very good.
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That's why about that guessing too, like within a few years,
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like increments, you know what I mean?
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Like if you could see something, OK, I have that Bush ranged at
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41, he's walking a trail, my side of it, he's probably 2
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yards closer. So, you know, 30 or 39 I mean.
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Sure. Yes, I get what you're saying,
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but where that where I have to be better?
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Yeah, at guessing than you do. It's because if I'm off by three
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yards, that's the difference in missing and hitting the animal.
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Well, I think that's the case if you're like past 40 yards, but I
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think from like 20 to 40, it's probably not as vast of a
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difference as you might think. I don't know.
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I don't know it would. Be something you could test
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though, right at the range and that would be a good thing to
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test. Like, OK, if I shoot from 20 to
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40, like how much is being off 5 yards at 25?
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Yeah. Or in this case, you know, 30
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and he was at about 32 and I shot for 40.
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Yeah. And I think that's.
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Probably a pretty pretty big. Difference and eight yards is.
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Probably like that much. Maybe, yeah, I don't know.
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Maybe not, but we'd have to practice.
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We'd have to. We'd have to go and do some
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experiments. Yeah, morally.
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But anyways, guessed too much distance because I should have,
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again, hindsight. When you're thinking about this
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and things are moving fast, you also have to get faster and
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better at doing that. Making an educated, unmarked
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guess is that though he was moving away from the thing that
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I had marked, he was still almost moving laterally with it.
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But you can't like I hadn't passed that topography yet.
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So he was there was like we were in a a wash.
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You can call it a ditch. And there was a hill, a little
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little hill, and he was up above it but behind it.
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So like I couldn't see the bottom of his legs to see that
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it was fully like pretty much lateral.
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I thought he was moving away because at this point he'd come
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and then he turned and was going this way.
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And so I thought the distance was just increasing as he's
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moving away from the Bush, but it wasn't enough because he was
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still also lateral. So it just, he wasn't going far
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enough back for the guess of 40. But to have like 2 of them just
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come straight at you, just standing there goes to show that
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like the rut can distract them a lot.
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And when you have good wind and you know, you come in quietly
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and whatnot. But that was quite an experience
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for them to just walk straight to you it.
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Was awesome. It was, it was really cool.
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You don't get things situations like that super often.
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So it's always a treat when you're in a rut frenzy like
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that. And it just we were right place,
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right time. I mean, we were in a bottom and
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they came right by us. And then, you know, another
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time, we almost have the same situation play out where we were
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in a bottom trying to beat a buck there and then he was there
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before us. And then it ended up that a
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bigger buck was still in there and we stalked in and my hands.
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The last morning. Wasn't cold.
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And then one time with Tove, too.
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I mean, Tove and I shoot, we got so close.
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Once again, we're stalking a different deer and we're up just
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hanging out by these doves and we're kind of pinned down.
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We don't really have anywhere to go.
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And those are working closer to us like, because they're
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curious, you know, and they'd probably come from like 80 yards
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to maybe or maybe 95 to like 80. And then out of nowhere, a
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bigger buck shows up out of nowhere, right up there, right?
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And then the dough turns and they're coming right to us.
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And finally me and me and Tolver just hunkered down and we got to
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66 yards and when he went to like get like shimmy to draw the
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deer busted. But it was cool.
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It was once again just like a total rut scenario and.
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Yeah, that's why I watched that clip and it's like, that's why I
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always say like, you know, maybe 80 to 90% of it is is skill.
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And then after that, there is always, there's never not a time
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that luck is not involved with spot and stock.
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Because in that instance, like you got as close as you could,
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but it was wide open. You know, Granny, you can't
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hide. Like we've discussed this.
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You can't just stand behind the tree or the juniper or the Bush
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because how are you going to shoot?
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But to have some bit of cover can always help.
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And then that instance Ted had none, you know?
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No, we kind of pinned down. I mean, we were to the right of
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a tree, which is good because it kind of breaks up your outline
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and everything. But yeah, you got to sit or
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stand in places where you got shooting windows.
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That is key. So yeah, really it was deer
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hunting was awesome. I haven't.
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I didn't have A tag after January last year, so I do this
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year and I'm excited about that. Get to try some different units
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and that'll be fun. Then for Javelina, we saw a lot
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in the 1st 10 days where Tove had his tag and the video will
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come out. It's we didn't do the best job
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of filming this time, but we did get a couple of shots on film,
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one or two audio I think sort of.
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So it was OK, but Tove. I'm trying to think here.
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We stalked a group and got in on them and he we were kind of
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stuck me and told film and we're trying to come around this horn.
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We had heard him and then like ended up finding them and they
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were right below us. You know, it's like it's crazy
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how sound echoes. It sounded like they were a long
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ways away and then they ended up only being like 100 yards.
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So we stalk in, Brianna stays on the hill and we try to get in
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and the best we could do is like 60.
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Like it was just like we had to come around this like Knuckle
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and the one was just bedded looking right at us and they
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were already sort of nervous, like the wind happened.
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It was goofy. So we finally get a shot at like
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55 within Tobes using the dual track and he forgot to move it
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right. So he shot for like 30.
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So they all came up way short. It hustles, hustles off and
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stands there. He gets another shot.
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That one doesn't pan out either. And they run off, you know?
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So we're like, OK, that that really didn't pan out too well.
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So we're walking around. We get back to the top where
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you're glassing and you're like, hey, there's one javelina just
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still going across top of this hill.
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So we're watching it and ends up going out of sight.
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And then we see two more down in the bottom.
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So we're like watching those ones and we're like, maybe we'll
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go after those ones. And this is when I turn and I
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see something coming down caught my eye right where the javelina
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had gone up basically. So I'm like, that's probably the
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same javelina coming back down. We should get in there.
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You know, it wasn't long before I saw it wasn't a javelina.
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It was a quite a Monday, right? This big tail.
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And I'm like, he's just walking. Just one of them, you know, big
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dark one. And I'm like.
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And if you don't know what a quadamonde is, you should pause
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real quick and go. They've all put it on the
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screen, right? Yeah, yeah, because they're you
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say it and a lot of people don't know what it is.
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It's like it's literally like a mix of a raccoon, a monkey, an
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anteater or I don't know what all got together and had an orgy
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and made a quatham Monday. But it's crazy.
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But it is in the family correct of the raccoon.
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I believe so, yeah. So anyways, it's coming down and
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it's like, I guess I'll try to get in there.
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You can shoot one per year. So.
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And I've only ever, I've haunted this country for like almost 30
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years now and I've only seen them.
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This is the third time I've seen one in person.
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Like, so it's very rare to see one, sort of like a Mountain
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Lion or something. You there's probably shit loads
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of them. You just never see them.
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So I'm like, God, I got to try it.
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So, you know, I never stalked 1. So I don't know, like how tough
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this will be. And I got my new bow that I
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barely shot. Like they're not, they're not
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big. So I loop around the hill and
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I'm stalking in and and we normally would have filmed, but
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again, like this is like a once that chance that doesn't happen
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very often and we don't know how tough it's going to be.
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So we're like, OK, let's I just get over there, get around the
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hill, get in position, wins good.
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And he's coming down one side of the hill and he's just like kind
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of meandering through the bushes and I'm like on the opposite
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side of a ravine. So we have like a ditch between
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us and I'm ranging him and he's like 45 but he kept staying
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behind bushes, bushes. So I never really got a like a
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draw on him. And finally he was about to come
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in a window and I might have drawn.
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I think you said you did once and he didn't stop.
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Moving well, I whistled at him and he didn't stop.
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This is when I realized like I can at least this particular 1
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is not that hard to stop. But then he like goes behind the
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bushes again and he starts going uphill and stuff can change in
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an instant. He can just choose to run away
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and it's been done right? So he starts working back up the
24:00
way he came and I start working up the drainage on my side and
24:05
it kind of like he's sort of almost heading to the tip.
24:07
So I'm like OK, my shot should get closer here.
24:11
So I arrange, I make a window, he's not in it yet, but I
24:14
arrange a window and then I get my sight ready and here he comes
24:18
into the window, right? So then I draw and he's I
24:23
whistle at him again, he's not stopping.
24:25
So then I do the little varmint squeal and then he stops like
24:28
perks up, looks at me. And again, Nubo haven't
24:33
admittedly shot it near as much as they should.
24:36
Put the pin on him and I mean, I couldn't hit him better it.
24:38
Was like that was a. Perfect, Yeah.
24:41
Perfect shot. Quiet Monday.
24:42
I want to say it was 30, 6 yards if I remember right.
24:47
So 36 yards. You probably got to vital the
24:50
size of a tennis ball maybe and freaking blew it out.
24:54
And then he he ran up the hill and went down in about 15
24:58
seconds. And Brianna sort of filmed.
25:02
Yeah, well, the thing was like, so Ted moved really fast to
25:07
follow you and that made me a little nervous because like,
25:13
basically like where you guys were at when you first saw that
25:16
Javelino down in the bottom. I mean, the have the quality was
25:20
just right across from that, but we're up high.
25:23
So I didn't want to move that fast and get that close, not
25:30
knowing where you were circling down around the hill and like
25:34
get there in front of you and spook it off.
25:37
So Ted went out and I just kind of slowly crept out there and I
25:44
was trying to grab clips at times when it wasn't behind a
25:47
Dang Bush, it would like either go down at like the base of a
25:50
prickly pear or like the base of a Bush, like where you just
25:53
couldn't see it and get a clip of it, film it.
25:59
And so I had make it to Ted and both of us, what we think what
26:05
we think is crazy is that both of us never saw the quad Amande
26:09
leave this last prickly pear. I tell Ted where I think the
26:13
last was. He goes Yup, it was just not
26:15
prickly pear. I get the like he's trying to
26:17
get me to set up the camera on the the tripod and his didn't
26:27
like. I don't think the the I had the
26:33
what you caught this thing? The mount they.
26:35
Didn't have a mount on it. Yeah.
26:37
So it was like, this is pointless, Like I don't need the
26:39
tripod, but so I'm just setting it on the tripod.
26:41
And no sooner do I hit record and we just hear and we both our
26:49
heads turned because we followed the sound of the air and we're
26:51
like, that doesn't seem right. We never saw that Quadamonde
26:59
leave that prickly pear. It had to have happened in a
27:02
time where like I was trying to get the tripod set up and Ted,
27:06
you know, looked away then to to take his, you know, binoculars
27:11
off or something. But the distance he travelled in
27:14
that time was just what was like, wow.
27:16
So again, didn't get that on. Not the shot but I did film the
27:20
animal as did you something. So we got footage of the animal
27:24
and I believe there actually is audio of of my arrow hitting it.
27:28
I think you can hear. So it it, it's kind of fun, but
27:31
I was just super stoked to get that chance.
27:34
And if anyone is watching this as a taxidermist and is
27:38
interested in doing some sort of collaboration with it, I do plan
27:42
to full body mount it and probably put it in here in the
27:44
studio. So if you want some publicity
27:47
for your taxidermy service, reach out and maybe we can make
27:50
something happen. I do have a guy in mind, but we
27:53
haven't solidified anything yet, so reach out on that.
27:58
But yeah, it was really cool. Now, wasn't there another?
28:03
There was another time he let I thought an arrow fly for
28:06
Javelina prior to that one. Me and Tov, yeah, no, I think
28:12
that was the first time we only stalked javelin twice, so.
28:17
But yeah, good times there and then, yeah, we proceeded to hunt
28:22
deer for a few more days. Lots of stocks, but nothing ever
28:26
got done. So no, no other.
28:29
That was the only time. Well, other than the time I just
28:31
flung there for absolutely no reason at Orgasaurus.
28:34
That doesn't even count that. Was goofy, but so anyway, yeah,
28:39
so then we get to the date that we had planned to move to a new
28:43
unit where we could have Lena hunt.
28:45
And this would give us about, I think, like 10 to 12 days,
28:51
probably about 12 days to hunt, which like should be ample for
28:55
Javelina, you would think, right?
28:56
But new unit, at least for Javelina, I haven't haunted
28:59
there since I think 2818 and maybe a little bit in 2021.
29:06
So we get to the unit and start looking for peccaries and just
29:12
hitting glassing spots. And Matt joins us and we're
29:15
glassing and glassing, glassing, breaking off into two groups,
29:20
glass and elsewhere. And where we're hunting is
29:24
pretty populated and it's very close to a major populated city.
29:28
So on the weekends it gets blasted with people on side by
29:32
sides, off roading. And a lot of hunters from this
29:35
big city will come out for the weekend and hunt in this unit.
29:39
So what? It didn't take us too long to
29:41
learn that. A couple of things #1 the
29:47
javelina in this unit are pretty educated, they're smart #1 #2
29:55
they do not hang out where you can glass them from a road.
29:58
Very much so you ended up. We ended up having to hike a lot
30:03
and the country was actually really gnarly, like steep,
30:07
rocky, nasty, big. In places very shaily or failing
30:12
sand. Now I will say like it's funny
30:15
because we've haunted a couple places now that you could say
30:19
are pretty big, like OHV areas, like off roader fun places.
30:26
And I've seen it two different ways.
30:28
Now where like animals are, I wouldn't call them tame by any
30:32
means, but like we'll acknowledge a vehicle by looking
30:36
at it like and then kind of either just walk off or do
30:39
nothing based on how threatened they feel.
30:42
Or like we saw in this unit, they are extraordinarily
30:47
skittish of remaining anywhere near, you know, not even run
30:51
away from a vehicle. Like you wouldn't find them
30:53
anywhere near a road. You have to hike in 1/2 mile
30:58
through a bunch of, you know, rolling hills or extremely steep
31:02
stuff to start at the top and then from there start your
31:08
glassing and hike around to get a different viewpoint vantage
31:12
point. It's just funny how it can go to
31:17
the I've seen it go to different ways about an animal's behavior
31:20
near off roaders. This was just not one of those
31:24
units. Well, I think partially is it's
31:27
very open country, relatively speaking.
31:29
So like animals are like, whereas like if you're an animal
31:33
in an area with timber, you're like, I can be close to a road
31:37
and peeps, no one will see me. Whereas like these dudes, if
31:39
you're near a road, like they're going to probably see you.
31:43
So I think that's part of it. But yeah, it ended up being
31:45
super physical. We spent a freaking boatload of
31:49
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32:42
I don't even consider you glassing if you're not behind
32:45
the tripod. And it was kind of interesting
32:47
because on a prior hunt I had had those stabilizing binoculars
32:52
from Alpen and you know, it's like you almost think like, oh,
32:59
I don't even need a tripod if I have these.
33:01
But that is not true. Like when you're sitting and
33:04
glassing for like 8 hours a day, which is about what we were
33:07
doing, when you add up the evening in the morning, about 7
33:10
to 8 hours a day of glassing non-stop, you need a tripod.
33:14
You just need one. Even if you have the stabilizing
33:17
binos, you need them on a tripod.
33:18
It's just not an option. Now, I will say if you're
33:22
hunting in like timber and stuff and you're just still hunting
33:25
through it, that's where I think having those stabilizing binos
33:28
in the harness is nice because if you're just cruising around
33:31
and checking trees every 200 yards, you probably don't need a
33:34
tripod for that. Yeah, you're probably, and it's
33:37
not super efficient. So like, I think in some cases
33:40
it's nice to have both tools, the stabilizing binos and the
33:45
tripod, but I just love. But when you're an open country
33:48
or even if you're in a timber, but like you're going from, you
33:52
know, you're going to hike into timber, that's where your, your
33:55
stocks going to go. Or you know, where you got to
33:57
traverse through or whatever. But you're getting to the top of
34:01
a mountain, cliffside, whatever and then glassing out into to
34:04
canyons or you know, prairies or flats or whatever.
34:09
The tripod is still then needed. But and I think the reason my
34:12
opinion is the reason for it and I think you'd agree is that
34:15
though the stabilizing binoculars, they do live up to
34:20
their expectation. They are very fantastic.
34:22
They're very good. They take away all those shapes.
34:25
Especially if you're like Rd. hunting or glassing from the
34:28
road or walking around still hunting.
34:30
Like they definitely have their place, but I love.
34:32
Duration and the duration in which you have to glass for and
34:39
I can sit there behind the glass and just go like this for an
34:43
hour without needing to stop glassing or longer, you know, I
34:47
just get impatient or bored. But you could go for forever,
34:52
you know, like there there's nothing your arms are doing
34:56
other than moving your your tripod every so often when
35:04
you're holding stabilizing by nose or guess what, these arms
35:09
get tired. And so that time that, like, you
35:15
don't realize that you're wasting like putting your arms
35:18
down and then now all of a sudden you skip a spot like when
35:23
you're panning and you're gritting things out, like you
35:27
might just pick back up and look somewhere else.
35:29
And that time you skip letting the binos down and putting them
35:33
back up, you can very easily, you know, miss an area you
35:36
didn't look at. Or I think people occasionally
35:40
move too fast with stabilizing binos instead of really staring
35:43
at things. People move too fast in general,
35:46
but yeah, but yeah, I think the key here is it's important to
35:50
have both things. But obviously we are really
35:52
spending time behind the Tricers and like I said, boat
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35:58
pounding the glass, pounding the glass.
36:01
And I don't even think we saw a peccary.
36:04
I think it was there 65. Yeah, I was going to say maybe
36:07
like 4, but yeah. Maybe it was 4.
36:10
But I remember we're sitting there glassing and it was like
36:16
the sun wasn't even quite up yet, but we're looking directly
36:19
where the sun is going to come up.
36:21
Or I was and you were looking. We were looking at the same.
36:24
Hillside. Yeah, exactly.
36:25
And I just go, hey, I see a group of them, you know, and I
36:30
saw a group. I couldn't believe it.
36:31
I was like, holy shit. I see a group, you know, and
36:34
there was a lot of them. So I'm like, call the call Matt.
36:37
And I'm like, hey, we see some like come over to our location.
36:41
We'll try to go in here and get you get on them on the glass and
36:46
before you know it, they're out of sight like.
36:49
They were moving when I got them into my glass already.
36:52
I've never seen peccaries move so much.
36:54
Ever. They were maybe insight for like
36:56
2 minutes and then they're out of sight.
36:59
So before Matt even arrives and you are even hardly ready, I'm
37:05
like, hey, meet me over there. And I just start booking it
37:08
through the desert to get up to where hopefully I can find them.
37:12
Oh, we both. Left for that one the first
37:14
time. We both left at the same time,
37:16
but once we got to the first hill, you went off pretty
37:22
immediately to the next hill over.
37:25
Well, I waited for Matt and Ted, but then I checked and you went
37:29
another hill over, so I left them and.
37:33
Well, I got to that first hill as fast as I could.
37:36
I didn't care if you were keeping up.
37:37
I'm like, I need to get up there as fast as possible.
37:39
So I get up to that first rise. And to your credit, you were
37:42
there not very long after. You've gotten faster, Buster.
37:45
You've gotten faster, yes. But anyway, I'm up there and I'm
37:48
breathing because I just freaking pinned it up here now.
37:51
I start glassing. Nothing.
37:52
Nowhere to be. You get there, we're glassing
37:55
together, nothing. And then I say, hey you.
37:57
Take off to the next hill. Nothing.
37:59
Nothing, Third Hill. Nothing.
38:01
Matt and Ted make it out and we all spread out our glassing.
38:04
Nothing, nothing. So we never saw them again.
38:08
We got the slip from a big group of probably 10 plus and that was
38:13
very obviously disheartening. So we'd worked so hard to find
38:16
them and then I believe it might have been the very next morning
38:20
or maybe 2 mornings later. But we have this plan where
38:24
Teddy has to go to town to do some tasks.
38:29
The plan is that we're going to get out there and we're all
38:31
going to kind of pick different fingers and just like walk and
38:34
spread out and everyone picks their first class and knob.
38:38
But we're a long ways apart from everybody.
38:39
You know, probably like, I don't know, 4 or 500 yards between
38:43
each person on different knobs and fingers.
38:47
And I'm walking this top and it's howling on the top, right.
38:50
And I look and I just see something like on the hill I'm
38:53
on like kind of go do this and it's black.
38:55
And I'm like shitting my shitting my bridges.
38:59
That's got to be a peccary, you know?
39:01
And he's only like 160 yards, right?
39:05
And then there's a bunch of them, just a whole bunch of them
39:07
and I'm standing here 160 yards. I'm like, hey guys, like I got
39:11
them right here. But y'all got to walk over and
39:13
we'll try to figure it out. Well, what's funny is when at
39:17
first, like when you you told me you texted like a pin of where
39:23
you were and said they're probably got 200 yards from me.
39:28
I think it's what the tech said or something.
39:29
And and then I sent you a pin to myself and I checked the
39:34
distance. I again, I don't know, it
39:36
registered. I don't know why I didn't say it
39:38
to you, but it registered my brain.
39:40
So I said it to Matt because basically I was the furthest
39:44
away the way we had spread out. And so I should have said it to
39:47
you and I said it to Matt, but I was like, there is literally no
39:55
way in the distance that they are from James and how far I
39:57
was, I think it was 580 yards from your pin.
40:02
And so I was like, there's no way that I am going to make it
40:07
there before a situation develops with these javelina.
40:12
And so I told Matt like you guys just do whatever you need to do.
40:16
I'm not attempt to make it over there but.
40:20
I will probably not make it before a play develops.
40:24
And then Matt, that's what Matt told me because again, I like
40:28
kind of left you alone at that point.
40:31
We'd had the one phone call when you told me and and then I got
40:34
the pin. And so when Matt called, he told
40:39
me like where they were like on the sunny side of the, the hill
40:44
that you're on, not the other side that I can't see or none of
40:47
us can see. And as I go, that is my route
40:52
just got double the length because I can't just come
40:54
straight at you because I'll just be coming straight at the
40:57
javelina and the wide, you know, little rolling hills down at the
41:01
bottom. And then that was a really nice
41:04
flat down there. I glassed it a lot of times
41:06
prior to like it had a nice tree down there and everything.
41:10
So like I'm going to be in the wide open to get to these
41:13
hammering. I'm going to have to go around
41:14
the other mountain that you told me to meet Matt at, go around
41:18
the backside of it and come, you know, the same direction Matt
41:21
was going, only he was half the distance that I was.
41:26
And so, yeah, hindsight's always 2020.
41:30
I, Matt was so close. Like, party's like, man, just
41:36
get up to the top of the hill and try to find a peccary.
41:39
Like, you know, they're always in groups half the time.
41:42
But you, you know what happened next.
41:46
Very disappointing. So yeah, I see them.
41:48
They're about 160 yards ish and so I'm just standing there.
41:53
I'm right, I'm pretty close by, but I'm on top of them.
41:56
So I'm like, OK, I guess I'll just the wind was, it was kind
41:59
of marginal with where I saw them, but luckily it was howling
42:02
so hard and it had like they were here and the wind was
42:05
probably blowing like I'm here, they are here.
42:08
And the wind was probably blowing here, which isn't great,
42:11
but it was blowing so hard and they're below me.
42:14
I think I was like, it should probably be OK.
42:18
My wind should be blowing #1 left of them or or east of them,
42:22
and it should blow over them if it goes because it's really
42:26
howling. So anyway, I'm just sitting
42:28
there and as I'm sitting, I start to notice that they're a
42:32
whole bunch is coming towards me.
42:34
So they were like 160 and then they were 120 and then they're
42:39
like 80. And I'm like, OK, I might have
42:41
to just shoot one from right here possibly.
42:44
So I start getting my tripod set up, which would have been great.
42:47
I have the camera shot set up. They're coming right to me.
42:50
I'm like, this is going to be aesthetic.
42:51
I'll feel bad if I pipe one, but like if they come right to me, I
42:55
got to shoot one, right? So I'm sitting there and then
42:58
Matt calls me and is like, hey, what do I do?
43:03
And it was windy, right? So you can't hear me unless I
43:06
talk a little louder. So like without even thinking
43:09
like, oh, that you're going to spook if I talk, I'm just like,
43:12
oh, just just come right down to me, like get on the other side
43:15
of the hill and then come to me. And then as I'm saying that,
43:18
they all turn and just walk away.
43:20
And I'm like, God, that was so dumb.
43:23
Like, why did I do that, you know?
43:25
And so I'm like, OK, I got to shoot one, but I really don't
43:29
want to not film. I hate not filming.
43:31
My job is to make content right? And it's fun.
43:33
Like I like that element. So I'm like, OK, well, I got to
43:36
make this happen. So I'm, I bring my tripod with
43:39
the camera on it. I put them out on bring the
43:40
camera and I loop around and sure as shit, I get right to
43:44
them right on their path. They're coming right in front of
43:47
me. One stops at probably like 35,
43:50
but my camera, I'm on such a steep slope, I can't like get it
43:54
set without tipping over. So I'm trying to get it set up
43:57
and and then that one moves off and I'm like, OK, this is
44:00
perfect. I said it's the that one left.
44:03
But now I have a little gap and more are going to come.
44:05
So this is perfect. So I get the camera somewhat
44:07
right and boom, here comes three more right through the same gap
44:10
but even closer. So I'm huffing at them and they
44:13
just will not stop. They keep going.
44:16
So now I'm like, OK, well I'm waiting.
44:18
I'm figuring more will come and that must have been the last
44:21
three. No more games.
44:22
So then I go down the hill. Still, it's so Dang steep that
44:26
I'm struggling with the tripod. I'm just like and I'm holding.
44:29
My favorite story is when Matt was like, yeah, at the time I
44:34
didn't know why in the world you were running around with your
44:37
tripod. He was like, what are you trying
44:38
to glass them while you're trying to shoot him?
44:40
But he didn't realize you had the camera set up on the tripod.
44:44
Well, luckily they're very light, so it's like not a burden
44:46
to take them. But the problem is the terrain
44:48
was so steep that you're having to make big adjustments.
44:51
And I am holding my bow and I can't set it down hardly even
44:54
with the mule because it's so steep.
44:56
That sucker is going to go down the hill.
44:58
So I see them down below me and I'm like, OK, they're like fit
45:02
shoot for 55. That's probably like 60
45:04
something. But because of steepness.
45:07
So finally I get the camera sort of set up and it's pointed the
45:10
right direction and I have it recorded and zoomed out.
45:13
I'm like, that's good enough. It's the best I can do.
45:15
So I they run through my window like two or three of them and
45:21
then one, one more comes through and I wolf at him and he stops
45:25
and I draw and I held the pin felt good.
45:27
But it's windy as shit and I'm blowing around and I shoot and I
45:32
mean, I, I thought it was a great shot.
45:34
It looked like it was perfect. I'm like, OK, he's going to be
45:37
smoked. And then I hear my arrow just go
45:40
like hit rocks and he just goes like this just flinches and I'm
45:44
like, and then he just stands there.
45:45
So I'm like, as always, reloading as quick as possible.
45:50
And I probably get to like hear about to pull back.
45:52
And then he skirts off and I went down there and my arrow was
45:55
right in his trail sticking up like this.
45:58
So I think I hit either. I think I must have hit we are
46:01
right below him probably. And then it made him just flinch
46:04
because it was so close. He probably felt that the breeze
46:07
come by. The crazy thing is that picture
46:10
of like it shows how steep it is.
46:14
Like usually when you like your Aeros will bury in dirt or you
46:17
know, or laying on the ground. But like this one is literally
46:20
like sticking like this out of the ground.
46:23
I should have taken a better picture because it actually was
46:26
more of an angle than it looks in my picture.
46:28
Like it was probably like that, like it was steep.
46:32
So anyway, I missed and I was like, OK, well, my streak of
46:36
hitting stuff with the Alliance didn't last very long.
46:40
Got one and then a miss. So then.
46:43
So then yeah, that was it that day.
46:46
And then the I. And that was the only group of
46:51
peccaries Matt ever got to see in the whole trip, because I
46:56
think it was like he had one more maybe full day there before
47:00
he had to go home or something. But that's the only time he saw
47:04
peccaries. Yeah, it was really tough.
47:07
I think we saw a third group maybe while he was there, but I
47:10
can't remember. I know we saw five groups total
47:13
in 10 days, so we saw 5 total one.
47:18
We saw that that group that you missed, then the third group was
47:22
the one we went after on the other side that we ended up
47:26
spooking them in that Canyon. I.
47:30
Might have been the fourth group I think.
47:32
Think we might be missing 1 and then the fifth one was the one
47:35
we got him but Tove glassed up two groups so I know we're
47:38
missing 1. Yeah, it was the ones we went
47:43
after we stocked in that wash. Literally could see them while
47:49
we're putting on that was just milling around eating.
47:51
Matt was gone by that. So it's poor Matt.
47:53
I mean, he comes out for a week and we see two groups of
47:55
peccaries and he only actually sees them once.
47:57
That's why it was tough. And then, yeah, another time
48:00
Toll finds them. We go in there and it's like you
48:02
would think it was good. The wind was shifty, though.
48:04
It was so shifty in this bottom and.
48:07
But that was the first time I'd seen them the second time
48:11
because that time we stopped in and and blew it.
48:14
They were calm then as well. But like by calm, I mean like it
48:18
didn't seem like they were like on the move.
48:21
Like they were actually when you see peccaries doing what
48:23
peccaries normally do, rooting around, eating, moving from Bush
48:27
to Bush like. I love Zachary.
48:29
Tom and we were a couple 100 yards putting on sneaks and I
48:36
could still see them just eating just And then in the time it
48:43
took for me to look one more time while putting on my sneaks,
48:46
they were still there, finished up, stood up, gone like the
48:51
wind. Yeah, it was crazy.
48:52
It really was. And couldn't find.
48:53
We stalked all the way to the top, got in there, couldn't,
48:56
couldn't make it happen. And then, yeah, we ended up
48:59
seeing another group and really rugged stuff.
49:01
And we get in there and we're like, they're just gone again.
49:06
We get in the bowl and it's like they're nowhere to be found
49:09
until they popped out of a Bush at 32 yards.
49:12
They were all bedded under this freaking Bush.
49:14
And we were. They just busted out and.
49:17
It went. Running around.
49:18
That close and you had managed to get your pack off, which
49:22
makes you know, a little bit of noise.
49:24
You had managed to get your tripod open, set up.
49:27
You got to pull the tripod out, pull the binoculars out.
49:31
And then I think just probably between that and then me coming
49:35
up behind you, which is more separated noise, not noise
49:39
happening at the same time. So, you know, you hear it once,
49:42
so then it's again me coming up, me taking off my pack, and I
49:46
didn't even get my pack off all the way before the bushes just
49:50
blew up straight down below us. And that was a real
49:57
heartbreaker. But that's not to say that it
50:01
wasn't, you know, there was effort.
50:05
There was an attempt in that one as well, because you had run.
50:09
Glassed them from so far and got over there and yeah, when they
50:14
spooked, you know, we've, I watched them, you're like, don't
50:18
not watch them. So like 3 more go to the left
50:21
and you're watching them and I stay on the main group and it
50:23
looks like they're going to settle up under this screen.
50:26
And then they did not. They turned and went all the way
50:28
up and over. And you were, let's be honest,
50:30
you were frustrated and kind of busy at this point.
50:33
So when I saw them run over the top, I'm like, I know I could
50:36
run up there and probably shoot one, but then I don't want to
50:38
get hung by Brianna either. So I'm like, OK, we'll both go
50:43
up to Zop. And I tried my best to, you
50:45
know, not go too fast. Of course it was still too fast
50:49
and I well. That was some the first wasn't
50:52
steep, but the last I wouldn't even call it the last chunk.
50:55
That hill, like it like petered and then went back up again and
51:01
that chunk to get to that flattish section before getting
51:04
up to where, you know, I finally saw you.
51:07
That was again like a crawl on force, you know?
51:11
So I get up to the top and like I'm thinking I'll probably see
51:17
them on the other side and then maybe can glass them and like
51:20
get opportunity. That's usually my goal is like,
51:22
let's get up high, see them again and go from there.
51:25
So I'm up there, you're nowhere even close to the top.
51:27
And as I'm up there I don't see anything.
51:29
And I'm like, OK, let me like get on this rim and get up a
51:31
little bit higher than I can see into this next ditch.
51:36
And as I take like a couple of steps, I hear like some
51:39
commotion down below me. And I look in, this one is just
51:42
running right to me, right? So he's sprinting up this Cliff
51:45
and he just stands there on this like rim and shoot.
51:51
He was quartered to me. I think it was like, shoot for
51:53
35. And I freaking draw back and
51:58
shoot and I noticed when I shot he reacted a lot before the
52:03
arrow got there. Like he I just saw a lot of.
52:05
Movies are the sketchiest peccaries known to man.
52:08
He was already alert because he was like charging up to see.
52:10
He didn't like know where I was, but he heard something.
52:13
So he's like ready to fight, you know, quartered to me.
52:16
And I'm like, that's fine. But anyway, he reacts a ton
52:19
before my arrow gets there and I hit him, but it doesn't sound
52:26
great. Like it was like OK, and then he
52:29
turns and runs off down the hill.
52:31
Like friggin he got shot out of a cannon, right?
52:35
So he starts running up the other side and this is big
52:38
country, so like he runs way down anything.
52:40
When I finally made it to the top and you told me like where
52:43
he went to, I was like, it's a very long way.
52:46
So injured Peccary. It can't be that injured.
52:49
So he runs across and now he's like a long ways and he's still
52:54
just frigging going and I'm like looking at him and I see blood
52:59
down his side but I can see it from like the very top of his
53:04
back coming down and it his whole side is covered but it's
53:07
like even at the top, which is not good.
53:10
So I'm like, I hate to say it, but I don't think I hit him.
53:14
Like, I don't think that's going to be a lethal shot.
53:17
Like you always tell me a a like high meat wound a lot at 1st and
53:21
then. Peccaries have that much hair on
53:23
their back, you know, so if you see blood all the way at the
53:25
top, you probably just barely grazed, as you know.
53:29
And this is when I started to wonder, OK, I missed a very
53:33
steep shot downhill at 55, and now I farmed an easy shot at
53:38
like 35 now grand. And he moved a lot.
53:41
I know he did. I saw it, but I also hit him
53:45
high, right? And we go track them and track
53:50
them and track them. We spend a lot of time looking
53:52
and the blood's OK. And then it gets less and less
53:54
and less and less. And he goes up into the thick
53:56
trees and I follow him all the way up there and he goes all the
53:59
way up and over far, like far, far.
54:02
And then the bloods like basically gone.
54:04
I'm like, dude, that dude is just fine. 100%.
54:06
It was like a flesh wound up high.
54:08
Yeah. And when you say like, we hadn't
54:10
even, we had found the one spot that he had most likely stopped
54:14
for a little while. And then after that, we're
54:18
literally following like every 10 to 20 yards was like, you saw
54:22
a drop on a rock. Yeah.
54:24
A drop on a rock. Yeah.
54:26
A drop in the wash Like nothing like droplets you know, which is
54:31
what happens after, you know, a high hit like that.
54:35
It looks great at 1st and then all of a sudden you know it
54:39
starts to seal up pretty quickly and you got no blood.
54:43
I was immediately concerned when I heard the arrow hit him and
54:46
then I when I saw how far he was running, especially with a 2.
54:50
I think I was shooting 2.3 inch head.
54:52
I'm like I think I just grazed his back.
54:55
It's just unfortunate. But then I start thinking to
54:57
myself, OK, I wonder if like I wonder if my axes are off or
55:02
somehow something's like messed up.
55:04
I never am an equipment blamer. Like it probably was just me,
55:07
but with both 2 very steep down shots and the second one, the
55:12
first one was a tough shot, second one total chip shot.
55:16
So I'm like, OK, I wonder if potentially this brand new bow
55:20
that I've haven't shot that much, which is my fault, isn't
55:23
quite right. And I have no way to adjust it
55:27
really. I mean, I can adjust the sight,
55:28
but on flat ground it was hitting a bit right, but like in
55:31
the center. And so anyways, you know, that
55:36
was a very unfortunate situation.
55:38
Once again, we bust a group, we almost get one.
55:41
We don't. Very unfortunate.
55:44
And then the next day we didn't see one at all.
55:47
I remember that. So we didn't see one the next
55:49
day. And then the day after Brianna's
55:52
legs are hammered. She'd been hiking a ton with me
55:57
and my thought is like OK, she needs to not hike today.
56:00
So I said why don't you glass from positions where you can
56:05
just sit by the Kawasaki and Glass mountains and told can do
56:09
the same with the other Kawasaki in different areas.
56:12
And I will go hike the mountains and look, and if I'm too far
56:17
I'll just try to shoot one myself.
56:20
But at least this way we're covering tons of ground.
56:22
We're on day 10 at this point. We're on day 10.
56:24
So it would be, you know, I hike out there, I get all the way to
56:28
the very top and I'm looking around and you're like, hey,
56:33
what if I just drive around and pick you up on the other end of
56:36
the mountain range? And I'm like, I love that.
56:39
That sounds great. So you drive all the way around.
56:41
Great plan to glass all that like stuff on the far end that
56:44
we never look at come around and glass earlier on and all of that
56:49
stuff on the road. The the wash up to you on the
56:52
other side of the mountain that we never stop at.
56:56
You know, like prior to where we saw that dude's F-150, you know,
57:00
all that we never stopped and looked at.
57:02
I was like, so I'll just go slow like you said.
57:05
And yeah, look at all of that stuff.
57:08
Yeah, and I loved it. From a a hiking perspective, I'm
57:12
like, that's a great hike, get to see good stuff.
57:15
And so I had made it pretty far, but I was also working very
57:19
slow. I was just like still hunting
57:21
and then sitting and glassing for 30 minutes, still hunting.
57:24
So I'm making zero. So I told you, I was like, bro,
57:26
it's going to take me a while and I'm not going to rush.
57:28
So I'm just going to go slow. Now, did you go up to that top?
57:31
I was at the very top, yeah, yeah.
57:33
And I was checking out the stuff on the backside and then I get
57:37
told says, hey, I saw 1 peccary way over here.
57:43
And I'm like, OK, well, that's the opposite direction I've been
57:46
walking. So now I have to go all the way
57:48
back past where I started and keep going to get to where he's
57:53
talking about and and you have to, you know, like get all
57:58
readjusted and get over in glass with him.
58:00
So he's pretty far away. And so we get over there, takes
58:06
us a little while to sort of figure out a plan, but we figure
58:09
out a good plan. We stock in this wash, We get up
58:13
in this once again, very nasty terrain to get up to the spot
58:17
and we get over there. And it was nice because we could
58:20
see them the whole time after like 300 yards out, which is
58:24
great. So we're walking, great wind.
58:27
I mean, you'd blow the dust right through your face, you
58:30
know what I mean? It was perfect.
58:31
Pretty hard wind, too, and we're stalking in there and at one
58:35
point we see them or I see them and they're like probably 80
58:42
yards and I'd go like this to film them and they all turn and
58:47
just walk. Over, I believe both of us at
58:49
the same time go no, no, no, no. Yeah, like how?
58:53
Like the wind's perfect. We're not making noise.
58:55
We're like. There's literally no.
58:59
Way they spooked but they all in a like I saw like 3 or 4 of them
59:02
line up and go over the hill and I'm like Oh my goodness.
59:06
So we just stop around and I see one actually pretty close to the
59:12
left coming up out of the bottom and I'm like OK.
59:15
We're going to be up. We're still there.
59:17
So I'm like Brand, I get in front of me and I want you to
59:20
just sort of stalk this direction.
59:22
So you do great, you're stalking through.
59:24
I'm ready with the camera. I got my Badlands sacrifice that
59:28
last pack on which is nice because I have that clip that
59:30
can go through the camera so I have it right on my chest so I
59:33
can shoot or range or grab my camera and film really easily.
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Now that could be hard if you're in thicker thick stuff, you
59:58
know, but it made it so much easier that like all.
1:00:01
All I had to do was just keep one hand on the bow so my arrow
1:00:04
wasn't bouncing around. But I had immediate access to my
1:00:09
range. I think I might have walked with
1:00:11
it for a little while in my hand because I like you just range
1:00:16
put it away. And I was able to to draw.
1:00:19
But yeah, so we we can't like there was like a finger that
1:00:24
came to the top, ish. And then another finger comes
1:00:27
right back down. So it created the Canyon that we
1:00:30
had first seen them in, but we knew like they were up toward
1:00:34
the tops, like we're coming across the top.
1:00:37
So now you kind of have like a, a cross wind, I guess you could
1:00:40
say like a downwind first, like in your face.
1:00:44
And so we get to that next finger to a new bowl.
1:00:49
I guess you could call it Ravine and that's where you said like,
1:00:54
let's just hold up and just. Well, yeah, I could.
1:00:56
Stand still for a. Minute you were a little antsy
1:00:58
or a little a little tense again and you're you got it.
1:01:01
We got in there and you're kind of like what what I could tell
1:01:04
you're a little antsy. So I said, we're just let's just
1:01:07
stand here. So we stood there and it didn't
1:01:09
take long and you went, I just saw him right there down there
1:01:13
and they and I didn't even see him because I'm sort of behind
1:01:16
the Bush. And then you're like, what do I
1:01:19
do? I'm like, we'll step out toward
1:01:20
you could shoot 1, you know, so you take like a step over and
1:01:24
then I like peek and I could see like 3.
1:01:27
Or 4. And I'm like, do you, do you see
1:01:30
him? Because you're not like do And
1:01:32
you're like, no, I don't see him.
1:01:33
And I'm like, I don't know how. Like they're just in the open.
1:01:36
Yeah. So finally.
1:01:38
You. That's when I stepped step and
1:01:41
turn and could see there's two down on the left and so I ranged
1:01:48
them 42 and put it away and go to draw and they kind of step
1:01:55
off like a few steps. But like it's going downhill.
1:01:59
And this is again one of those times that I'm glad I didn't
1:02:02
because peccaries are small animals, you know, like they're
1:02:05
not the size of a house hog, you know, like maybe the baby one
1:02:11
that's born. That's about the biggest they
1:02:13
get but I'm glad because I ranged it after all this
1:02:18
happened and it went from 42 to just those few steps they took
1:02:21
downhill because it was so steep.
1:02:24
Took it to 38 which is almost a 5 yard increment for me and on
1:02:28
an animal that small. Like if I had not changed, I
1:02:31
probably would have shot over if I had just decided to shoot at
1:02:34
the the ones that move down. So I had already gotten into the
1:02:39
draw. And so you just kind of
1:02:41
whispered to me like, if you can hold it, just wait though the
1:02:43
more will come through the window and we could see them.
1:02:45
Like I could see them just barely on the edge of this
1:02:48
juniper that's down there. And.
1:02:49
You could see there was a trail. Yeah, you can see a trail and I
1:02:52
could see a couple right there amongst the the edge of the
1:02:56
brushy juniper. And so I was like, I'm just
1:03:00
going to keep holding. And one walks out, of course,
1:03:04
with a little baby football, we call them, doesn't stop, just
1:03:08
walks down to the other ones. And in my mind again, you're,
1:03:13
you're trying to get faster and faster at these decisions.
1:03:18
And I was like, no, I'm not going to shoot the moving
1:03:21
javelina. And it didn't even cross my mind
1:03:24
at this point that I had a baby and we're on day 10.
1:03:27
I'm just like, I just want to have Alina.
1:03:28
I couldn't care less about a baby with it or not.
1:03:31
Usually I do care about those things.
1:03:33
But yeah, so it it kept going and I'm still holding.
1:03:41
I would like to time it with the video and see how long it yeah.
1:03:46
And I wasn't pointing out the ground.
1:03:48
Yeah, Mike was a different story.
1:03:51
But then the baby kind of turns around, it comes back and
1:03:57
another one finally, like once the baby gets up to it comes,
1:04:01
comes down into the window and stops and the baby goes back
1:04:05
down to its mom. And I was like, that's it.
1:04:08
So I waited just long enough to settle the pin on it.
1:04:10
And because we're now so like we're going up the finger and
1:04:14
the winds blowing straight in her face, but now we're shooting
1:04:16
this way across and down the finger.
1:04:19
So when like for us, for scent wise, not a big issue based on
1:04:23
where they were, but for holding the pin, it was like I was
1:04:28
fighting to keep it upright and not pushed over.
1:04:33
And so I'm very proud of that factor because normally I'll
1:04:36
just be like, screw the bubble and just let the arrow go.
1:04:40
And that is a, you know, that's a not a good idea.
1:04:45
But I checked the bubble, I looked at the pin, everything
1:04:48
was good. And then I let it go and.
1:04:53
Hit the pecker, he good. I mean very good he.
1:04:56
Ran off and before we even anything really happened yours
1:05:00
like you. So you hit him and he sort of
1:05:02
moved like up and stopped and then I'm like here's the camera
1:05:05
I'm giving you the camera to to film to point at the animals.
1:05:08
Unfortunately you forgot about this part so well.
1:05:11
Get a miscommunication again. Let me get to it.
1:05:14
So the javelina start kind of going crazy and Brianna, you
1:05:18
know again, she's she's this is her third one in a row.
1:05:21
So she has some javelina hunting experience, but not quite as
1:05:24
much as me. And we're also tense because we,
1:05:27
you know, especially like we wanted to be done with this hunt
1:05:30
and cut. You wanted to come home and see
1:05:31
the dog. So she's like very frantic and
1:05:36
they're all just running around in front of me and I'm like.
1:05:38
Have we counted in the video yet?
1:05:41
How many times have you you haven't cut the clip?
1:05:43
Right, let me finish it. Let me let me finish the story.
1:05:45
So they run. There's one like in her initial
1:05:50
window that she shot in. So I said, Brianna, what was
1:05:52
that range? Because she's filming so she
1:05:56
can't range, but I know she already knows that range.
1:05:58
So I said, what's the range? And she said 42 I think.
1:06:02
So I put my sight at 42. And then after that I hear just
1:06:06
in the background, I think what listen to the tape going 6550. 5
1:06:09
Now don't just hear me, don't just hear me.
1:06:13
You're leaving out a critical factor of I want to go back and
1:06:18
count. I'll put even put a little
1:06:20
counting clock on the the video. I think that would be quite
1:06:23
nice. Even though the video is pointed
1:06:25
at the ground because you begin to then ask me over and over
1:06:32
again, what's the range? So I've already now told you 42.
1:06:39
So I'm presuming that we're no longer Speaking of the 42
1:06:43
because I've already said it and you probably asked, You asked at
1:06:48
minimum 3, but I can guarantee more.
1:06:52
So it's somewhere between four and five times you ask me.
1:06:57
You can't discount it. It's on the tape, even though
1:06:59
the tapes facing the ground. You do ask multiple times.
1:07:03
Yeah, we'll watch. What's the rate?
1:07:04
We'll watch the tape. We'll see.
1:07:05
We'll. Watch the tape because you do
1:07:07
ask multiple times. But my point is, I always tell
1:07:10
the gang always people always ask me when I'm filming to range
1:07:14
for him and I always say I cannot range and film.
1:07:17
I want to just film. And and that's what I, you know,
1:07:21
I told Brianna I said never range for me again.
1:07:23
Like I just wanted the one range in my head.
1:07:26
Maybe I asked more, but like, but hold on.
1:07:29
There was this franticness. I could tell where you're like,
1:07:33
I want you to shoot one right now.
1:07:35
I do not want you to wait for them to settle down and then
1:07:37
shoot one like I want you to shoot one right now.
1:07:39
So this Hunt's finished, right? So I'm I'm holding a draw just
1:07:42
like you just holding the draw and I'm like going to this one,
1:07:46
this one, this one, this one, and they're all moving.
1:07:48
And finally 1A little further out stops and he's broadside.
1:07:54
And this is part of the reason the dual tracks cool is like, I
1:07:59
think I had the sight set for the first window, which was
1:08:02
whatever it was 42 and the second one I'm like, it's
1:08:07
probably 12 to 15 yards further than than that window.
1:08:15
So I just put the second pin right on them and I'm like, it
1:08:17
should be close enough. Like it should be pretty close.
1:08:20
So I shoot and I thump them. Great height.
1:08:23
It was a little little to the right again.
1:08:26
I'm pretty sure my boat was not quite.
1:08:28
Well, so far every shot downhill.
1:08:30
Alright, alright, when we officially screamed, I would
1:08:35
love and I would like to see it when you not I don't care to go,
1:08:38
but like for you to actually look at the bubble, the levels
1:08:41
when you get that bow tuned because I'll almost guarantee
1:08:45
you that your bubbles are going to be off to the side and so.
1:08:49
And it wasn't just like a little everything was way right and
1:08:52
especially steep stuff. And I think part of the reason
1:08:54
my shot was pretty good on that one is it was the most flat shot
1:08:57
I had taken. It was pretty flat.
1:08:59
So any who hit him and he ran across or ended up being a
1:09:07
salvage, she was a big one. And she started spinning around
1:09:09
and I'm like, OK, she's going to be dead right there.
1:09:11
And she was, she was down right there, probably within a.
1:09:13
Minute I could see her in my naked eye right there at the.
1:09:15
Bottom yours went down, didn't go far at all.
1:09:18
I mean, yours probably went 30-40 yards and then boom, we
1:09:21
had ourselves a javelina double. It was oh, it was it was like
1:09:26
you would have thought we were hunting a grizzly bear.
1:09:28
How tense it was just with like we had worked so hard and we
1:09:33
were also running out of time. Like we had to leave Friday and
1:09:36
I want to say it was like maybe Wednesday or.
1:09:39
Tuesday. Tuesday so we were like time was
1:09:41
ticking and it wasn't going good. 10 days of hunting.
1:09:45
We saw a herd 5 * 4 of us gave four of them gave us like the
1:09:48
slip. And yeah, now I know people are
1:09:50
going to listen. You say 10 days and five
1:09:53
encounters. You're like that's one every
1:09:55
other day like but again, going back to like these were not your
1:10:00
standard like you know when you know animals habits and like how
1:10:05
they behave. These were very educated
1:10:12
Javelina, so like they just even down to like you could be
1:10:17
nowhere near them. Like you're glassing them,
1:10:19
watching them and their behavior screams skittish like constantly
1:10:24
on the move, constantly moving quickly when they are on the
1:10:27
move. Like those ones we saw the first
1:10:29
time we saw them, you would have thought they were already
1:10:32
spooked. They were trotting across the
1:10:35
top of the hill. When I glass them I never see
1:10:39
javelina unless they're grab assing, and even then it's like
1:10:44
in circles and whatnot. Like I never see javelina
1:10:47
running in a string you know, just by themselves out of the
1:10:52
blue a half a mile away. They were they were definitely
1:10:55
skittish. They were definitely educated.
1:10:57
They definitely like to live in the big country and it was
1:10:59
tough. It was harsh.
1:11:00
It was got hot, it was windy every day.
1:11:02
So it's cold in the mornings, super windy hot, but it was, I
1:11:06
love hunt Center Challenge and it definitely was that.
1:11:08
So anyway, we got it done, came home, I went to supercross with
1:11:13
Kawasaki, which was amazing. Unfortunately, Jocelyn gave me
1:11:18
and Paul like some really cool Kawasaki cups and we freaking
1:11:22
forgot and left them in our seats when we left.
1:11:25
So I'm bummed about that. So hopefully she'll give me
1:11:27
another one because they were sick.
1:11:28
But yeah, I got to do a little tour of the rig and it's just
1:11:32
been good. And then we got a tournament
1:11:34
this weekend and Yuma, you're not going to shoot, you're going
1:11:37
to film, but you're excited for that.
1:11:38
And I'm going to shoot the Proven that'll look much
1:11:41
different than the last time people seen it, so I'm excited.
1:11:44
I still have a string that's cut from a beast broadhead, so
1:11:47
hopefully it makes it through 40 arrows and then I'll get my new
1:11:51
strings put on. So Road to Vegas still
1:11:53
happening, Your Arrow series still going.
1:11:55
I don't know when the next part will be out, but lots of big fun
1:11:59
stuff coming. I think you're going to an
1:12:01
outdoor Expo in Pennsylvania, if I'm not mistaken, and you'll
1:12:06
probably film there some. I'm going on a javelina hunt
1:12:09
with just a freaking loaded group of guys coming up, so stay
1:12:13
tuned for that. But yeah, we're going to see you
1:12:18
guys next Wednesday. Also, I'm about to go get lunch.
1:12:22
I'm actually going to be a little late with my buddy the
1:12:25
legend himself, Jack Peterson, who I'm going to confirm
1:12:29
hopefully is going to do the show for Bow Disciples Challenge
1:12:32
4, which tickets go for sale February 1st, very, very soon.
1:12:39
So I can't wait. PD 4, there's going to be some
1:12:42
changes. It's going to be fun.
1:12:43
It's going to be here. I know, I know I they can't see
1:12:49
them in my clip, but yeah, they're crazy.
1:12:51
So anyways, we appreciate y'all listening to the podcast.
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1:13:36
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1:13:38
Yes, OK. Yeah.
1:13:40
Good, I'm a go. Love on Albus now for a second.
1:13:43
OK. Well, thank you for thank you
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for everything. We'll see you next week.