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Jacob Misiorowski or Paul Skenes? Who is the better young pitcher? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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Inside baseball. Now let's go deep, deep inside.
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What I am excited this. Is inside baseball.
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Oh. This is going to be fun.
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Oh, and we got the 2. Baseballs, guys, We got a bunch
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of baseball stories, a lot of baseball stories to talk about
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in the news recently. Some of them positive, some of
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them not so positive. This reminds me this track.
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This track reminds me of Cleveland baseball.
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Just so you know, I just had to. Say it should Major League
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soundtrack right from the first movie.
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So let's talk. About, by the way, the
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magnificent Mesorowski man, if you haven't watched this guy
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pitch, it is something to behold.
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And he went up against Paul Skeens, who is the best young
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pitcher in baseball, and out dueled him for five innings.
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They don't let him pitch deeper than that right now.
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But Mesorowski is throwing harder than anybody in baseball
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consistently well over 100 every pitch it seems like.
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I think he had something like 19 pitches that were over a one O 1
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in the game. And Skeens had one and the 20
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pitches over one O 1 was the most ever and it was almost all
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him. Take a look at this pitch right
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here. This is a 96 mile an hour
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slider. Julie Castro goes down.
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Yeah, it's nasty. That's as filthy as a slider
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gets, and they showed afterwards that right before the break it
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looks almost exactly like the fastball going on the inside.
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Oh, that's. The same same like arm slot.
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I don't know, it reminds me of when Strider first came.
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I hope you can stay healthy. But that's the that's where we
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start is with that duel between these two guys.
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So, Errol, I know you're a big fan of Skeins.
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Skins might not be the best pitcher in baseball.
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This young pitcher in baseball. This kid, I don't know anything
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about him. I've heard a little bit about
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how hard he throws. He reminds me of a young Noah
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Syndergaard. Froze very, very hard.
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Noah Syndergaard, when he came to the league with the Mets,
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this guy was unstoppable. They gave him the nickname for.
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He threw 92 mile per hour change UPS, 93 mile per hour change up.
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His slider was like 94 mph. He was throwing 199.
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A hundred now, obviously these sleep baseball is different.
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The technically these guys are going to throw harder because of
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all the opportunities they have with all the the different, you
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know, scientific things that you see guys, you know, come up
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with. But I think I still think Paul
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Skeens is a better pitcher and this guy might throw his arm out
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the way he's talking the ball. He's great, he's sensational.
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The teams will obviously eventually time him right and
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figure him out. I, I just, I, I stop.
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I know a lot of people want to put, put him over Paul Skeens.
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Paul Skeens has done it over a year and a half in the big
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leagues. Let's see what this guy does in
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a full season. Then we could try to compare and
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contrast, that's all. I'm going to say about that.
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Mesorowski's different. He does, he does.
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He's 100 to 102. His curveball's 90 miles an
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hour, sliders 96, change UPS 92. But what makes him super special
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is he's in the 100 percentile and extension.
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So they have a stack called perceived velocity.
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So the fastball might come in at about 100, but the hitters are
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seeing it at like 102. But you know, over time the ball
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will slow down. But actually it looks like his
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is taking off because he's reaching out and putting the
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ball in the like in the glove. His extension, he's shortening
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the 60 feet, 6 inches will say his stride length is 7 feet, you
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know, whatever. And it's it's getting up and
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just quicker, which is why it's ridiculous.
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So I think he's better than Paul skeins.
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No, I don't I don't. I I have to see him over the
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course of a year, like you said, see if he see if he can, you
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know, handle it. Once the team, once the league
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starts making adjustments to him, then we'll really see what
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he's made of going back to their matchup.
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Paul just he just had one rough inning.
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The guys got to him a little bit and then he settled in and the
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next, the next two innings or whatever, we're fine.
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I mean, he struck out the the guys, but he did throw a lot of
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pitches and I'm sure that's why they took him out.
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But I was impressed. I was impressed with the miss.
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The miss did have some nice shit.
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I won't lie. His stuff was nice for sure and
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didn't look like a fun at bat. But give him some time.
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The league still has to make an adjustment.
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I think that was like his, what, his fourth or fifth outing?
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I didn't think it was that much. I think it was his third start.
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Yeah, I think it was third. And I think he's only given up
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three hits and three starts. He has more weight than hits
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given up. Yeah, it's just ridiculous how
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good he is right now. But again, you know, it's very
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early with that guy. It's just so exciting to watch.
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That well, it's exciting to watch.
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It's something exciting for the Brewers.
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I mean, they're they're pitching factory over there.
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They constantly are putting out pitchers.
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So, you know, now they just need to get their offense booming,
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match their staff, and then you know, they're going to be fine.
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But yeah, it's a name and it was it they MLB hyped that, hyped
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that match up up quite a bit. So it was fun to watch.
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For sure. How do you think?
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What do you think is the MLB.TV Free Game of the day?
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Yeah, Oh. Yeah, for that reason, it's and
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it's it's great and it's it's great for baseball because the
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younger generation and you're seeing guys like Chase Burns
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come up, you know, in a year and set set a record.
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Nobody's ever. Struck.
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We'll talk about Chase. We'll talk about Chase in a
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little bit. And so I'm just talking about as
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as young kids, like with what they're doing, it's they're
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trying like they're trying to get the old ads out.
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Obviously we've seen what Clayton has done since his first
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start. His last seven have been
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unbelievable. And they're going to continue to
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grind and do all that. They know how to do it.
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He's 3 away from 3000, which will be awesome to see.
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He deserves it. But yeah, I think that's two
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you're going to be 1 to watch for a long time, hopefully and
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hopefully they can stay healthy. And with, with the way things
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are going now, you, you just never know.
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But it was fun to watch stuff wise like it, like you said,
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skins had that one bad inning, but stuff wise, just watching
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both of them work it. I mean, it's just, if you're not
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a baseball fan, you know, some people want to see all these
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runs and I want to I, I, I like a one nothing game, but that
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that does something for me. It's just the the chess match of
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back and forth. And it'll be interesting to see,
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you know, they're young, how far they're willing to go.
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Like, obviously you're trying to save them.
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But yeah, you tried to save me and I blew out anyway.
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So for me personally, you let him go.
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Look what Kay did in the World Series, win 130 pitches.
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Let him go. If he's going to blow, he's
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going to blow. Yeah, same with Strasburg.
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Speedy I, we, we have a lot of these advanced statistics to
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tell you how good it is and good mentioned one with an extension
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though, but extension now they have this site.
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I use it very exclusively for my fantasy baseball stuff.
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It's called baseball savant and baseball savant is like kind of
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idiot proof because if it's red, it's good.
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He's 100% all the way to the red Mesirowski on like literally
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everything. And I, I didn't understand.
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I thought it was like more not not so much like hiding the
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ball, but like just like like you're saying like how how like
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hard it is for you to pick it up out of his hands because like
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it's getting to you faster. As opposed to like a guy that
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throws 95 with no extension. A guy with like 93 with like
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good extension would probably be harder to hit is I think what
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they're saying. But Speedy, do you have any of
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these ideas on like how the how to use this actionably?
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Yeah, I haven't seen it with with Mesirowski with his with
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his numbers quite yet. But yeah, if they're all that
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high, it generally means that they're not being seen to the
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same level of it's not even like a drastic change of speed
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either. From what you were describing,
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Goody, it seems like he's keeping them all the same
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velocity, but they're similar enough where it's still enough
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distinctly that's thrown off these hitters.
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Now, granted, this game was the Pirates offense, so I don't know
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how much you're going to take that into account.
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But nevertheless, he's faced some other good teams.
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Like you were showing the highlight against the Twins who
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have a decent offense. And I forget who his first start
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was against, but they were a pretty good team as well.
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I think it might have been the Cubs and they he still had the
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like you're showing in this charts here.
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You're you see enough of it where these locations are also
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very strong too, scattered enough to keep him guessing.
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And the combination of that with the velocity is going to be key.
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But like Errol was mentioning too, the usage will be a big
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key. That was the biggest problem
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that hurt Noah Syndergaard. He had five pitches and only
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decided to throw two of them later in his Met's career.
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And it really hurt him both injury wise and just stuff wise.
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And since his stuff falling off, he has not recovered.
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So you hope that doesn't happen with Mizuroski.
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But like you were saying, goody, I think the Brewers have become
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enough of a young pitching factory where that kind of thing
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doesn't happen. We were talking about the kid
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Henderson guy that got demoted. Surprisingly, Kid Patrick's done
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very well too. Chad Patrick, and like you said,
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Peralta rebirthing him as a veteran when he was dealing with
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all those Tommy John surgeries. That takes something.
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All right, let's let's move on on that one.
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That was the the fun baseball story of the show.
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But everything else is decidedly not as fun because there's some
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horrible stories in the baseball world.
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And we have to start with Wander Franco.
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Wander Franco was found guilty today and he only gets a
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suspended 2 year sentence for sexual abuse of a minor.
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He does not go to jail unless he violates the the conditions,
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which means being around more minors.
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Baseball will likely suspend him indefinitely for this.
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I don't know when if they'll let him back, but the fact that he's
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not going to jail and the mother of the daughter of, of the of
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the woman is going to jail for 10 years raises more than one
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eyebrow for me. It raises quite a few across the
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industry. I want to hear you guys take on
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it, Errol, starting with you, man.
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First of all, Wanda Franco is a piece of garbage.
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He doesn't belong in the league. He shouldn't step one time 1
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foot ever on a baseball field again.
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That's my fact. If you're, if you're watching a
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pitcher, and I'm not going to mention the name because I know
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Jabba don't like him. He he's never even been fully
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proven to do any of those things that these girls have told or
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said that he has done or in a in a state in in a court in a
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court. And this guy has been proven and
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only gets two years because he's a multi millionaire.
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I think it's despicable, absolutely despicable and
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honest, honest to God, if you look at the big picture, I just
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think that the MLB needs to stay away from guys like this.
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He he, by the way, he got get what did he get?
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Like he had to make a couple of $1,000,000 off that deal with
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Tampa before, before there that, that contracts null and void.
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I, I would probably think that he probably brought in about
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fifty $60 million. Even if he never plays baseball
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again. The guy's a multimillionaire.
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So why does he care? I mean, he got away with murder
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and he's sitting there pretty still a multimillionaire.
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So I, I, I think it's despicable.
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I, I think it happened in the Dominican Republic, right?
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That's where it happened. It just shows you how much the
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Dominican Republic don't see eye to eye by the way, the rules and
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the way the regulations are. It's despicable.
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So a lot of them have had sexual assault or domestic violence
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issues in the past. A lot of them have come from
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there that MLB, I think some for some instances have done well in
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terms of disciplining, but it's different when you're dealing
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with a legal system that just is so.
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Flawed. No.
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In the league they'll let him back.
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No, in the league they'll let him back.
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Just. If that's the case, that's
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inexcusable if they let him back in the league and in fact that
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he's only getting two years like you're saying fish like not even
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like some formal jail type of thing like.
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I don't have much to say about it.
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I I just am a high school teacher who are around 14 year
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old girls like that. You're just like I, I can't even
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imagine what's wrong in your brain that makes you want to do
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anything like that. It's just so screwed up on so
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many levels. It's disgusting and I I hope he
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they never let his ass back. Into the league and Jabba said
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it best. The fact that the mother got 10
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years and he only got 2 years just says it just shows you how
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demented. She got, she got 10 years.
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She got 10 years because he was paying her 10s of thousands of
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dollars and it was considered sex sex trafficking of a minor.
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OK. And he was she.
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Was like pimping out her daughter.
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And he was doing it. He was doing it.
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So why is he not getting away with it?
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You're right though, there's a lot of places that are like very
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pro. I mean, not really where we are,
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but I there are a lot of countries and a lot of places
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that are going to be a lot more lenient to the men in these
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situations for some. Reason he They're only lenient
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to him because he's a superstar baseball player.
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Maybe. Maybe that's true.
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Maybe. That's it, and he's got money.
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They're giving him a slap on the wrist and it's great.
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I wouldn't be surprised if he paid the judge right onto the
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table. I wouldn't be surprised.
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I hope that's true so we can talk about that story because
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that would be some shit. I wouldn't.
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Be have you got anything to add? No, now let's move on.
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I got it's not a great story. Following up, it's the Kettle
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Marte story. Another really screwed up one.
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Now, Kettle Marte, also Dominican Republic.
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His mother died in a car accident 2017, and a lovely
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White Sox fan decided to Heckle him and make fun of the fact
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that his mother was dead and awful, things that I'm not even
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going to bother repeating digitally.
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Did you hear this excuse he was saying?
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I was like, I was just trying to say hi to his mom.
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That's he said. I, he said I thought your mom
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was a bop or something. Whatever a bop is.
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I have no idea what. That means I don't know.
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And then that's what that's what I read.
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And then apparently they heard Your mom deserve what she got.
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Yeah, that's pretty ridiculous to say to somebody.
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I mean, I, I look, I, my, my, I have a lot of relatives that
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have passed. You know, you have a lot.
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My, my parents are still here. Not my wife doesn't have her
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parents still. I can't imagine saying anything
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like that to someone who lost their one of their parents or
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both of their parents. It's one of the most disgusting
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things. I'm very happy the White Sox and
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then Major League Baseball found a way to make sure this guy
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doesn't come back to any games ever again.
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Errol. All these stories are
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disgusting. If somebody said anything about
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my dead mother, May May obviously my mom's not dead, but
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said something about my father and I was playing on a baseball
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field. I, I go into the dugout, I grab
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a baseball bat and go after that guy.
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That's what I would do. I I that is despicable.
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And the fact that baseball stepped in and actually did the
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right thing here, that says a lot.
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But I still don't like Rob Manfred, as Jabba calls him.
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He's an ass And and I just think I think baseball never makes the
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right decisions. They finally made the right
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decision here. Look what they did looking at
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baseball with the Yankees in in the World Series.
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Look at that. Look at what happened there.
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I mean, obviously we know that those two, those two guys in the
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in the outfields are trying to RIP the ball and RIP.
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What's his name again? Bets his arm right off his body
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and they get a slap on the wrist.
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I I just. It's pathetic.
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Baseball, But but you know, but that's not as bad as what?
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This guy did to Marte, well, that hold on one second, Mookie
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Betts could have been permanently injured.
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Goff a bit, one of those guys, one of those guys ripped and
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teared out at his arm. Yeah, yeah, but he would have
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been just fine. It's not talking about a dead
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parent. Like, yeah, break my wrist, I
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can't play ever again. Fine.
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I'm taken care of, but don't talk about my family.
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Talk about me, touch me, try to fight me.
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I don't care. Don't.
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You're not talking about my family.
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That's just there's no if ands or buts.
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Break my leg great. My I got hit in a car accident.
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Going to the game sucks. Covered, paid don't matter.
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But you're not going to yell at me about my family.
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That's just not it. No.
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I mean this this happened. First of all, the people around
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him should have beat his ass. Yeah, if I hear that and it was
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just they were young. He was 22.
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The best is This is why I love the Internet.
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They wouldn't release his name. Oh, hold on 32nd boys.
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It took all of the Internet about 8 minutes before his name
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was all out there and so and it's it's going to follow him.
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I hope he gets his ass beat. It's reprehensible, man.
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What do you got goody? I mean, I just think people, I
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think fans just need, it's great to Heckle.
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It's all that. It's part of the game, part it
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comes with, it comes with being a professional athlete.
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You take it, you take the hits, whatever.
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But I think at the end of the day, like, realize that the
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people that are out there are humans too, you know?
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And like, yeah, you're supposed to let stuff roll off your back
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and all that. And.
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But some things hit home a little more than others.
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And that's probably you got to draw the line somewhere.
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And that's, that was definitely crossing the line.
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I mean, you just treat others how you want to be treated.
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You know what I'm saying? And that should be fine.
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Like you go to a game, you pay money, you should be able to
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Heckle somebody. But when it gets super personal
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like that and you're talking about dead relatives or whatever
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the case may be, like just know that that dude is a person to is
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a real person dealing with the same issues that you're dealing
19:12
with. He just happens to have he or
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she just happens to have a cool job.
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We don't go to your desk job and heffle you about your dead
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mother. You know what I'm saying?
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But like. Yeah, it's just crazy.
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Bro be professional like. I I got a question that I I need
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answered though right now. Speedy, what's the meanest thing
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you've ever yelled at somebody? Does it compare to this?
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So I don't think you have a mean bone in your body.
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No, I'm not that way personal. But can you think like maybe
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you're angry at like your brothers or maybe your dog?
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You know something? What?
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What's like the meanest thing you've?
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Ever or Errol? Or Errol for sure.
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Could be Errol. It's.
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Not anything close to that. I'm more.
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I'm more. Petty, you stink.
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I'm more petty. OK, That's a general one.
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I think everyone said that at some point in their lives.
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I don't think he's ever come at me with anything I don't really
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I've ever heard of. I've known Speedy now over 10
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years and I don't think he's ever come at me in any kind of
20:23
angry way where I'm like, man, that guy's got some temper.
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I've never seen it. Never.
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Never. I used to Heckle Steve Mason at
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Rangers Flyers games and and just scream as soon as it got
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real quiet that he had a sandy vagina.
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Really, really loud and it was hilarious every.
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Time I can't do it. On this show, I thought.
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It was funny. That's not even that bad.
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Yeah, that's easy. As bad as I've got it.
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I would, I would, I would laugh. I would like if you Heckle me
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and it's good, I will turn around and give you credit like
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if it's funny and like you see all these dudes like and they
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talk about you like boobs or butt, left hand, right hand,
21:04
like dude, that stuff like that's part of the game.
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That's what's fun. And if you're like, you Heckle
21:09
me and say something that's great.
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I'll I'll literally turning and clap for you and be like, dude,
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I haven't heard that one. That's a good one.
21:16
And then they're like, oh, and then they're like, Oh, sweet.
21:20
And I'm like this. That's what's that's the fun
21:23
part about it. And then you got idiots like
21:25
Chad Wilson is his name, by the way, So all of our fans that are
21:29
listening, did you ever run into him?
21:31
Punch him in the face for me. Generic name, yeah.
21:35
Corny. Chad.
21:37
Chad Wilson. Oh yeah, that's some fun.
21:40
Then people take it too far. I'm just like, yeah, Lee Doo
21:44
Doo, Doo Doo. All right, let's, let's move
21:47
through. We got to some really
21:49
fascinating story. I don't know if you saw this,
21:52
this is a few days ago, but Fernando Tatis Junior is filing
21:55
a lawsuit against an agency he signed with when he was a
21:58
teenager that's now trying to basically extort him with that
22:03
contract he signed as a kid for around just under $40 million.
22:08
I I wanted to see if you guys, especially, you know, Nick and,
22:11
and Jabba, you guys have any stories similar you've heard
22:15
from guys or maybe you personal about these types of predatory
22:18
agencies going after young guys these days?
22:22
And Errol, if you had any experience with stuff like that
22:24
when you were playing, you know, in your teens playing like
22:27
really competitive elite hockey too.
22:29
Like, let's start with you, Errol.
22:31
You have anything? What was your question?
22:33
I'm sorry I was. I was fixing my ear thing.
22:37
The these like agents and agencies, they promise you the
22:40
world and then they RIP you off and.
22:42
Actually, it's it's it's good because I was just on the phone
22:46
with two agents today working with Preston Carey and they're,
22:51
they're hungry. That's what they are.
22:53
Preston is, is doing an announcement as he's going to,
22:58
he's going to choose where he's going to college.
23:00
They're his agent is spending over $50,000 for this event, 50K
23:06
to set this up so he can announce at the Eureka Castle
23:11
that he's going where he's going to go to college.
23:14
And listen, I. Who's this?
23:16
Who's this agent? I'm not going to mention his
23:18
name. I can't really.
23:19
I can't really say. Bullshit, I can just look it up.
23:23
I can't say I'm sorry. Not on.
23:25
Not on air, Not. Off the air.
23:26
Off the air I can. Off the air I can I?
23:28
Can't really. It's public knowledge at some
23:30
point. Yeah, I know, but I, I'm not
23:33
going to say that. But listen, his agent's a good
23:35
guy. I'm not saying that he's a bad
23:36
dude. They're both really, really nice
23:38
guys. I I just think that, you know,
23:41
every agent is is just trying to make money and, and if.
23:46
This kid turns out to be a super.
23:47
This, this is not an agency that what this is, is these guys,
23:52
these guys are these guys are like a pool of money that get
23:56
together. We all, we're betting on
23:58
Fernando Tatis as 17 year old. We're giving him $2,000,000
24:03
upfront as a 17 or 18 year old. And in the agreement he he
24:08
agrees to give us 10% of all his future earnings.
24:12
Now Fernando Tatis goes out there and blows his ACLL, here's
24:16
his Tommy John. He retains the $2,000,000 ever
24:21
makes another dollar again. And that's a bad investment on
24:23
their part. Now if he goes out and signs the
24:26
$330 million deal or whatever that he signed, now that agency
24:32
that upfronted him $2,000,000 as a 17 year old is expected to get
24:37
their $32 million back and return.
24:40
And does it suck? Yes.
24:42
Is it exploitation? Maybe.
24:44
But at the same time as a 17 year old and you're getting a
24:47
check for $2,000,000, you don't know what the future holds.
24:51
I mean what I mean, it's a shitty deal.
24:56
It's a shitty deal. If you bet, if you're, if you
24:58
feel like you're going to bet on, if you bet on yourself and
25:00
you know you're going to be, you know, you just have the, you
25:02
know, I'm going to be good, then that could happen.
25:04
Andrew Heaney signed a deal like that not too long ago and the
25:08
actual, the, the company I guess went under and the deal fell
25:11
through and he got to retain the $5,000,000 or whatever that they
25:14
gave him. They come after a lot of people.
25:16
The the issue is you have to surround yourself with people
25:20
that are financially sound so that they can make a better
25:23
decision for you or with you. Like $2,000,000 is a lot of
25:27
money to a 17 year old, $2,000,000 a lot of money in
25:29
general, but like 10% of your future earnings, that's a huge
25:33
chunk of change, especially when you turned out to be a freaking
25:38
star. And that's where it that's the,
25:41
that's the whole issue. So it's not that they're
25:43
necessarily taking advantage. What they're doing is keying on,
25:46
on certain keying in on certain players that they think have the
25:49
best potential to make them the most money, offering them X
25:53
amount of dollars upfront in hopes that on the back end they
25:56
will recoup that plus more. And so it's, I mean, it's a is
26:02
it bad? I don't know because if.
26:06
He. If he broke, it's gambling.
26:08
You're gambling. That's what you're doing.
26:10
You're signing a contract. But it's, it's the same thing
26:13
like when I was in college, we took a Lloyds of London out if
26:17
God forbid something happened and I got hurt because I was
26:19
projected as a first round draft pick.
26:21
So they were like, hey, I talked to a buddy that was drafted in
26:25
the first round before and he was like, I got a Lloyds of
26:27
London just in case I get hit by a car.
26:29
I can't do this. I'm still covered of what
26:31
projected that I was. Yes, we had to give a lot of
26:34
stuff. We had to go do a physical and
26:35
all the other stuff, but it was a it was a one time fee where
26:39
if, God forbid, something happened to me, I was covered.
26:43
But if nothing happened to me, it was like, all right, boom.
26:46
But what this happens to more is, is not the American born
26:50
players. It does happen.
26:52
They'll find, but it's just, it's not agencies, they'll do
26:56
this a lot for the Dominican kids, Venezuelan guys like that
27:00
where it's like, hey, we can get you over here and you know what,
27:04
we'll give you X amount of dollars, but it's anywhere from
27:09
like 10 to 15% future and it may pay off.
27:12
It doesn't sometimes. Sometimes it doesn't and it's,
27:15
it's not uncommon to see stuff like that.
27:17
It's just weird that it's just coming out like this now.
27:21
Well, it's because it's 32,000,000 and not like 500
27:24
grand. Yeah, exactly. 32,000,000 is a
27:28
lot. And I mean, I can see both sides
27:30
of the story, you know, so. All right, let's, let's get out
27:34
of this segment. We got two things left in it.
27:36
We always do an injury report, huge injury to Arizona.
27:40
Corbin Carroll gets hit in the wrist play.
27:43
He's out for a couple of games. They find out after the swelling
27:46
goes down. He has a fracture in the wrist.
27:48
He's going out for quite a while.
27:50
There were two foul balls in the dugout that took out two guys.
27:55
A guy named pitcher named, I guess it was biggie or big.
27:59
He had to be carted off. You got hit, you got blasted.
28:03
And then caber Ruiz had a concussion from getting hit in
28:06
the head. Just being in the dugout.
28:08
I, I, you see now, like you don't see it as much like when I
28:13
was a kid, like they didn't have the fencing of protecting the
28:16
dugout. But guys, are you like, like it
28:20
just feels like you're inviting death sometimes with the way
28:25
that some of these balls and sometimes the bat fly into that
28:28
dugout. Like, yeah, have you ever had
28:29
to, like, really Scurry a couple times there, boys.
28:33
My last my my last game I was at in the collegiate league, we had
28:37
a kind of throw a bat didn't even actually it was a broken
28:40
bat. He broke a bomb bat, which is
28:42
like a composite wood bat. It's kind of crazy and flying
28:45
over. He wasn't even paying attention.
28:46
The media girl was like jumping out of the way, and I mean, it
28:50
landed right in front of us. I mean, if your head's on a
28:52
swivel while you're in the dugout, you definitely it needs
28:58
to be because flying bats and baseball's coming in at 100
29:04
miles an hour don't feel good to the face.
29:08
I can't imagine. I've had I've had to dodge.
29:11
I caught one on a roshay. That was the worst it got.
29:14
I mean, I got hit with comebackers.
29:16
But yeah, if you're, if you're just sitting there in in the
29:21
dugout, I mean, yeah, you're looking around or whatever, but
29:25
pay attention because it's like you don't have time to react and
29:29
it's just like, oh boy, here we go.
29:31
But yeah, I never, I had to scurry a couple times, but I
29:35
never caught one directly. I caught one off a ricochet.
29:38
Yikes. I mean, I haven't gotten one.
29:42
I just, I'm always, it's always like the scariest thing.
29:45
What's your worst comebacker, Goody?
29:52
I have it on video actually. Probably I had a cup.
29:55
I've had like 2. Memories.
29:56
We'll save that for another segment.
29:59
Yeah, it was the one in spring training.
30:01
I got the, I got the picture and everything.
30:05
I do want to see that picture. Cutter Crawford out for the
30:10
season in off field accident to his pitching hand and wrist.
30:15
Errol, this guy had a really good season last year.
30:18
It looked like he was breaking out to be part of this Red Sox
30:21
rotation that had all this promise.
30:25
No, not not this year. The promise has gone from that
30:29
rotation and this is a big reason why.
30:33
I don't know if they're going to go after his money, but they're
30:36
probably going to go after his money.
30:38
Well there's there's a reason they said off field incident and
30:41
didn't say what it was. Very specifically didn't say
30:44
what it was. They didn't take, they didn't
30:46
take mine when I was jumping on a trampoline, so.
30:51
That that is related to this, that I, I can't believe that I
30:54
hate that that's true. Do you, do you guys remember,
30:58
remember Aaron Boone? Remember, Aaron Boone was
31:00
supposed to get a contract the year after when he hit that that
31:03
winning home run that sent? The playing pick up basketball.
31:07
Tori's knee playing pick up basketball.
31:08
You're right. And it screwed him out out of a
31:10
contract and all that other stuff and all those other
31:13
stories that you've heard over the years.
31:15
Honestly, the Red Sox aren't going to come out and tell the
31:17
truth because if they do, it'll make the kid look really, really
31:20
bad. But they're definitely going to
31:22
go after his month. The only thing that saved me was
31:25
I was with my son so I didn't look like an absolute piece of
31:28
shit. You weren't like skiing like in
31:33
Vail or something? No, you weren't supposed to,
31:35
right? This guy.
31:37
You know what? Funny story about that?
31:38
Tina Martinez? Tina Martinez, brother in law's
31:41
want to pick me up? How about that He?
31:44
Was one of the paramedics really?
31:47
What do I have here? Oh, Speedy, I want to hear what
31:50
you think about this Adli Rushman injury, because Adli
31:53
Rushman, when he came up, was supposed to be the best catcher
31:57
in baseball, best best catcher at calling the game, best
32:01
hitting catcher. He hit at every level he hit his
32:04
first year. And now he can't hit the
32:07
broadside of a barn for most of the season.
32:10
And now he's gotten an oblique. And in fact, they said it was a
32:12
light oblique strain, but they decided that they're going to
32:15
sit him out past the All Star break anyway.
32:18
Why do you, I have some suspicions why they're doing
32:21
that. But what do you what have you
32:22
noticed about it's supposed to be the star player for this
32:26
Orioles team? Yeah, it's interesting because
32:28
obviously the big name hype wise before him was Matt Wieders in
32:32
the same organization. He looked good in the beginning
32:34
of his career too. And then he had similar kind of
32:35
injury issues and never recovered.
32:37
He ended up going to Washington, never resigned with them.
32:39
Now Rushman I think is supposed to have higher upside
32:41
offensively than Wieders did at the time.
32:43
And like you said, first three years of his career was pretty
32:46
durable. Obviously the power numbers were
32:48
as high as you can get last year.
32:49
And now for someone this year that in a in a year where the
32:53
Orioles have had tough injury walk as it is, I think the
32:56
Dodger, it was the Dodgers, the White Sox and them I think have
32:59
had the most IL stints like combined this year with
33:01
everybody. But yeah, you wonder, I guess
33:03
maybe they're trying to extend it where because it's hard to
33:05
find catchers as it is that kind of foundation you want to have
33:09
at that position. So maybe that's why they're
33:11
extending him out. And I guess with the way you,
33:12
like you said he was struggling. He looked like he finally was
33:14
getting back and then struggled again.
33:16
So maybe that's the reason they extended even further to not to
33:20
protect that I. Told you this was going to
33:22
happen by the way. With with Rushman, Orioles.
33:25
OK. With their Orioles offense and.
33:28
Here from hell for them. I'm waiting to see Jackson
33:31
holiday break out. I don't know what's going on
33:33
with this kid, but it's. Starting.
33:35
To a little bit, starting to a little bit.
33:37
But you're right, it's not what anyone thought this year.
33:39
I thought they were going to be a playoff team.
33:41
I think a lot of people thought that as well.
33:43
But you're right, Errol, absolutely.
33:45
There's one other guy on this injury list.
33:47
This is a weird injury. Usually you hear about the
33:50
labrum in the shoulder. This is the labrum in the hip.
33:53
The only other hip labrum injury I remember was a rod.
33:57
Remember, a rod was having these Labradors.
33:59
Had that same surgery as a rod did same surgery really yes.
34:04
I had four hooks put in a rod had five put in.
34:08
You know it's. It's so they got to hook it back
34:10
on to the hip. So what they do, So what happens
34:13
is, is they go in arthroscopic and they go, they, they put
34:18
three holes in your hip and they go in And what they do is they,
34:23
they cut the muscle, they shave the bone and they reattach the
34:27
muscle with hooks. And then you're on crutches for
34:30
a month. You can't walk on on that leg.
34:34
And then you have to rehabilitate yourself and you
34:36
got to teach yourself how to walk again.
34:38
It's true. It's, it's horrible.
34:40
You might as well get a hip replacement because ever since
34:43
then I have not been the same. Just so everybody knows, don't
34:46
ever do it. It's the worst surgery and it's
34:49
terrible. It's terrible to try to heal in
34:51
any of, in any situation when it comes to this kind of stuff.
34:54
So I, I had the same. And by the way, one of the
34:58
doctors, he had four doctors in his surgery.
35:01
One of them, Doctor Germano was to say he was a part of a rod.
35:05
He was there a part of a rod surgery.
35:08
He did my surgery. He did a terrible job.
35:10
By the way, just so everybody knows, don't go to Doctor
35:13
Dorado. It it, it doesn't sound like the
35:15
type of injury that is horrible. I still don't feel the same.
35:19
Marlins prospect was have a Goodyear.
35:22
He didn't look right all year and now I think we know why.
35:25
Let's hope you can bounce back from that and notice just a
35:27
couple of names. Notice, just so you know, notice
35:30
ever since that hip surgery era was never the same, so.
35:33
I just don't know how you come back from that and be as
35:36
athletic. So I have 5.
35:37
I'm gonna start doing this. I'll.
35:39
Give you one. That was, though, Alex Gordon.
35:43
Yes, yes, Alex Gordon Did I think I was.
35:46
Scored Jason Electric, Jacob Wilson.
35:49
Fast, yeah. But they were young, weren't
35:52
they? Younger than a rod?
35:53
I mean a rod did it later in his.
35:55
Career a rod. Was older in his career.
35:57
Back on track. So I got 5, got 5 names to to
36:00
give you. We already talked about Burns a
36:02
little bit. Did you know that Jacob Wilson
36:04
is the son of Jack Wilson, former great infielder,
36:08
defensive infielder for the Pirates back in the day.
36:11
So he's having probably going to be the rookie of the year in the
36:13
American League. He's hitting 350, like a legit
36:16
350. Doesn't strike out at all.
36:19
He's walks more than he strikes out as a rookie.
36:22
That's very uncommon. Not he has some pop, not a ton.
36:25
He's probably going to finish around 15 homers and maybe 10
36:29
stolen bases. But this is the next big time
36:32
contact hitter coming into the league.
36:34
Keep an eye on Jacob Wilson, Chase Burns.
36:37
I got the highlight. I'm going to put it up right
36:39
now. You guys were talking about it
36:40
earlier, starts off facing the Yankees, starts off his career
36:44
striking out five Yankees in a row and crude, including Judge.
36:48
Just an absolute stud performance.
36:51
I want to hear a little bit from our pitchers on this highlight
36:54
I'm about to put up right here. Goody Cincinnati rats look.
36:59
At this strikes out eight. I think I have the 1st 6 on
37:03
there. It's electric.
37:04
It's electric. Look at this.
37:07
Swag too, the. Spark they need to get.
37:09
In these. He's a big dude.
37:12
Yeah, it's electric stuff, dude. I mean, this is what you want in
37:15
a starter. Pair that with hunter green.
37:17
Yeah. When he gets back he should be
37:19
back in like a few weeks I think.
37:21
Yeah. I mean, this is a big time, big
37:24
time prospect. I think the Reds are just
37:27
scratching the surface of how good they're going to be that
37:30
that's the name. I would keep an eye on that
37:32
because if they can get Burns going and Hunter Green back.
37:36
And LA, like Cruz, should be an All Star too.
37:38
And he's, and he's not even in the in the final ballot or
37:42
whatever he. Didn't make the day too.
37:44
I never played that I. Don't.
37:45
I don't understand how that's working.
37:46
We'll talk about that more next week when they reveal the rest
37:49
of the All Stars. But they revealed just Judge and
37:54
Otani today. As if we needed to know that.
37:58
Andy Paihez, Speedy. Not pages Paihez.
38:02
He is the center fielder for the Dodgers.
38:04
He has something like a one, like almost 140 WRC.
38:08
Plus, this year he's playing out of his mind, and the Dodgers
38:12
have needed every last bit of it, haven't they?
38:14
Yeah, he was a backup on their roster last year, kind of a
38:16
defensive replacement center fielder.
38:18
Now he's actually become a well-rounded hitter too.
38:20
Not overly special at really anything, but he's a good
38:23
balance of occasional pop. I think he's got thirteen home
38:26
runs and pretty steady 27280 hitter.
38:30
And again, like you said to us, they've needed a lot of them to
38:33
get the depth in that lineup going because a lot of the kids
38:35
have gotten hurt. Obviously the pitchers have
38:37
gotten hurt, so they've needed more from their their lineup as
38:39
well. But there's a really pretty
38:40
steady in a Dodgers outfield that outside of bets has really
38:44
had a lot of rotation with that. Obviously they waved Chris
38:47
Taylor, but they've kind of platooned that position a lot.
38:50
But now Pat has emerged as a full time starter after he was a
38:53
backup much of the year last year.
38:55
All right, and let's finish this up.
38:57
Let's talk about the two old men.
38:59
Errol Jacob degrom had a no hitter into the 8th yesterday.
39:04
He seems to be quite possibly all the way back finally from
39:08
all those injuries he suffered this season.
39:11
Listen to this. Three WAR, 3 point O WAR eight
39:14
and two record. 2 point O, 8 ERA, 16 games, 16 games started,
39:21
95 innings, 94 strikeouts .881 win.
39:29
Sounds like he's back. Well, I love Jacob degrom and he
39:32
deserves all the credit in the world coming back two years.
39:35
It took him almost 2 1/2 years to get back to where he is.
39:39
If he could just stay healthy. If, if the Rangers make the
39:42
playoffs, how scary is that rotation going to be?
39:45
Two guys, two guys that have done it before and it's done it
39:48
in the playoffs. And Nathan Ivaldi, too.
39:51
Just think about that you have Jacob degrom and Nathan Ivaldi
39:56
as your 1-2 punch in the playoffs.
39:58
Scary. And I think the Rangers could
40:00
make if they sneak in as a wild card because they're probably
40:03
not going to win the division. It's still early.
40:06
I they're they're probably more scary than any team right now in
40:09
the American League With that they.
40:10
Got to figure out their offense. Them in Kansas City have like
40:13
really league bad offenses. Their pitching are so good
40:16
collectively. Yeah, and the only other thing I
40:19
want to talk about is Clayton Kershaw.
40:21
Jabba said it 5 strikeouts away from 3000.
40:25
He's been pitching well since he's come back this time.
40:28
One hit, one run ball, his last start.
40:31
Very exciting player. He's a surefire first ballot
40:34
Hall of Famer. Jabba, I want to you know, were
40:39
you that still there when CC got 3000?
40:43
No, I had just. I had just left, but yeah, I
40:48
mean, I saw a bunch of C's accomplishments, but yeah, I
40:53
it's crazy. We'll probably never see it
40:55
again just because guys aren't going to stay around long enough
40:58
because the contracts are so crazy.
41:02
I don't know if we're, there might be one or two sprinkle in
41:05
there, but I don't think there's going to be that many more.
41:07
And you know, you've got 2 left handers that have done it in the
41:10
last. You know, we just got one in the
41:11
Hall of Fame and you know, here probably seven years later,
41:15
we'll have another one. So, yeah, I think some of these,
41:19
you know, wins and and strikeouts are, are going to be
41:23
sprinkled in, but I just don't think a lot of guys are going to
41:25
pitch long enough anymore just with the money that's that's
41:27
being made. All right, and boys, that wraps
41:31
up another great rendition of Inside Baseball.
41:35
Cootie, what are your thoughts to that too?
41:37
What were your thoughts to that? Kershaw.
41:42
Clayton Kershaw. Oh, he's a Hall of Famer and
41:47
that's not even a question. He's one of the best pitchers of
41:49
our generation. I mean, one of the best
41:51
curveball. He's he is Mr. Dodger.
41:53
Like, I mean, he just needs he just needs to get it done the
41:57
postseason. But and and.
41:59
One of the greatest dudes ever. Yeah, I mean, he saw his hat,
42:04
you know, I thought that was pretty cool of him to do.
42:08
But yeah, I mean, he'll get his. He'll get his 3000 and you know,
42:13
I think this this should probably be his last year.
42:16
I don't foresee him pitching again after this and right off
42:19
into the sunset. And then I'm sure he'll find his
42:21
way in the booth or a. Made-up A made-up job that they
42:26
make. Up they'll probably be a special
42:28
assistant that those guys are like the Albert Pools is the
42:31
audio Molina's like those guys are your those guys are your
42:34
face, your your franchise for a long time.
42:37
And so you want to keep them around to teach the younger
42:39
generation how to go and how to pitch for 30 years, John.
42:42
Was invent a position for him and paid and deferred money.
42:46
100. Percent did.
42:47
You do you guys remember what Joe Torrey said about Clayton
42:50
Kershaw when he took over and and he managed them?
42:54
I remember him saying Clayton Kershaw is the best pitcher he's
42:56
ever coached, he's ever managed in his career.
42:59
And you're you're talking about some great pitchers over there
43:03
with the New York Yankees. And he went out there and said
43:05
Clayton Kershaw is filthy. I remember, I remember that so.
43:11
First like 10 years or whatever, his first, like his first five
43:15
or six seasons, he had like a one something, I remember
43:18
looking it up, it was absolutely ridiculous how good number, like
43:21
how good his numbers were. I mean, it was like it's very
43:25
much video game numbers. You're just looking at him and
43:28
you're like, how? Same thing with every game.
43:31
Too right? The guy went deep in every game.
43:33
Starting when. He was young, electric, he's
43:36
just getting, it's all the time is winning and that's just the
43:38
way it is. But he's got his championships,
43:40
he's got his, he's got all the accolades and and now he's going
43:44
to get to 3000 and ride off into the sunset and then come back as
43:48
a special assistant. What they all do.
43:53
So we all try to do only Only the greats get it though I guess
43:57
we. Got to bring Goody in, by the
44:02
way. I, I just want to let everybody,
44:04
I want to let everybody know our boy Nick Goody is in Cleveland
44:08
right now. And he is going to be, he is
44:11
going to be doing the pregame and postgame show for the
44:15
Cleveland Guardians on Saturday. And he's doing some color for
44:19
the Cleveland Guardians as well. Nick, what's up, man?
44:22
How's Cleveland? It's hot.
44:25
Bro. It's.
44:28
Hot. It's hot.
44:28
What? What is it?
44:29
It was hot. It's hot.
44:31
It's like 9393. I left Florida 97 come up here.
44:34
Cleveland, it's 93. Went and caught the game.
44:38
Tail end of the game. Watch Gosman throw.
44:40
I play with him at at Ellis. He was good to see him but took
44:43
it to us. Got to catch up with Kipnis.
44:46
Kipnis was doing a little pre and post game analysis as well.
44:49
He's on his way to Chicago. He's going to pick up a couple
44:51
series there too so it's good to catch up with.
44:53
Kip missed Lonnie Chisenhall. Not sure if Jabba played with
44:57
Lonnie Chisenhall but I'm pretty sure he played with Kipnis.
45:00
But aside from that, I mean caught up with a few few of my
45:04
buddies. One of my buddies bought check
45:06
this out, it was pretty cool. I can't wait to see this.
45:09
One. Not many, not many people know,
45:11
but Yankees are like all their stuff is owned by Steiner
45:16
Sports. So I never really got a chance
45:18
to get my jerseys there. So they sell them on eBay and
45:22
one of my buddies that was up here got, I think this is like
45:25
my Yankees, my Yankee Stadium debut jersey.
45:30
Oh wow, sweet. Pretty dope.
45:35
Yeah, I wore like I'm more like 12 different numbers in New
45:38
York. So this is I had I had to make
45:40
sure, but Steiner Sports takes everything.
45:42
So yeah, Nick, that's. That's from Brandon Steiner,
45:46
right? Yeah, I guess I don't know
45:49
Steiner sports, so whoever. Yeah, yeah.
45:53
So. You go over there, Nathan, you
45:54
know those guys. I know Brandon.
45:56
I know Brandon. I, I know Brandon Steiner.
45:58
I'm I'm good friends with him. He sold it.
46:01
Collect collectibles, exchange Java.
46:04
No, I'm. I'm telling you, yeah.
46:06
He doesn't own Steiner. Yeah, yeah.
46:08
Anyways, it's from Steiner Sports, so you got it.
46:11
Thought it was pretty cool. Shout out to Seth.
46:13
Thank you for that. That was pretty awesome little
46:16
gift. And we have this, we have the
46:18
Cardinals coming in this series. So I got to got to do a little
46:21
research on the cards. Who where'd they put you up at?
46:25
I'm at the Residence Inn right now.
46:28
I just told him to give me a Marriott so I can collect the
46:30
points. But this this hotel was either
46:36
this or like stay at the casino. And I think I don't think the
46:40
casino is the right spot for me, although it's it's you know, I'm
46:43
too lazy to walk the half a block right now, but I'm like
46:47
literally this room is like 2 stories.
46:49
I have an upstairs. It's massive.
46:53
I'm like taking. Care of you, they taking care of
46:54
you, that's what you're. Saying hey, dude, look at this.
46:56
Yeah, well, all the way up there got freaking wow, look at.
47:01
You, man, you're living large. I guess.
47:05
People sleep on Cleveland a little bit.
47:07
It was great city. I mean the people are great.
47:10
Like went to barrio. I hadn't had barrio in a while
47:13
and so it was good and are. You doing pre and post?
47:19
Yeah, I'll do pre and post Saturday and then radio color
47:23
radio on Sunday, and then next month I have three games against
47:27
the Rockies and then in August 2 against Seattle.
47:30
Well, who's your mediator? Immediate Nathan.
47:37
No, like for real. Look, Nathan's face is frozen.
47:40
I got to take a. I'll have one of this.
47:44
That's you're getting radio jobs before me.
47:46
This is bullshit. I mean, they kind of just, they
47:53
kind of like they asked if I wanted to do it on Sunday and I
47:56
said yeah, Droba said. Why not?
47:59
Might. As well.
48:02
You guys are, it's good. It's good that you're here
48:05
because that means you get to join us on this segment that we
48:08
haven't had you on in a while. Yes, it's really great.
48:10
And it's called so. Busy.
48:12
A call to the pen it's. Done.
48:14
There we go, I think. You can throw a strike on this
48:16
pitch. It's not going to be my John.
48:17
It feels like jello right now. Just get it over the plate.
48:20
I want him to swing. Last time I did that the guy hit
48:22
one that hasn't landed yet. Or a call to the pen.
48:25
Groba, Groba. All right, guys, a call to the
48:35
pen, Tommy, get the baseball music going in the background
48:39
and what we're just going to start off and just we always.
48:42
Talk about something. That happened either recently in
48:45
baseball or something. That's just like a general topic
48:49
that we wouldn't be able to get an answer from an inside source
48:52
without asking two of our baseball athletes on the on the
48:57
show, both Nick Goody and Jabba Chamberlain.
49:00
Guys, did you see the O'Neill Cruz play the other day that got
49:05
him basically benched? What not hustling down the line?
49:10
Well, there's a little bit more than that.
49:11
He forgot how many outs there were and he's hitting two O 1 I
49:16
believe right now after a real good start to the season.
49:20
He's leading off that team. We've talked about a story about
49:24
the Pirates every other week this year.
49:26
Either at the front office is screwed up, the ownership is
49:29
screwed up or just the team itself can't put a good thing on
49:32
the on the field. It's it's pretty wild.
49:34
We're going to talk a little bit about skiings a little later in
49:37
the show, but for now, I wanted to see what you guys had to say
49:40
about this O'Neill Cruz situation and players generally
49:43
when they lose focus on the field.
49:45
How is that treated in the clubhouse?
49:47
Have you seen it go right, go wrong and just general your
49:50
general thoughts on this incident?
49:52
Let's start it off with the big man on top, Mr. Jabba
49:56
Chamberlain. Yeah, we've all seen it.
50:00
I I think this is one of the ones that I think have a has
50:04
accumulated and it's, it's gotten worse because there's a
50:08
bunch of highlights that's that's happened before.
50:10
Like then a ball gets past him and he doesn't muscle after it.
50:14
He doesn't run through the bag like he sees it's going to be a
50:17
double play, doesn't doesn't finish out it.
50:20
So I, I don't think this is 1 certain play.
50:22
I don't think it is. I think it's an accumulation of
50:24
a bunch of things. And so finally you just got to
50:27
be like, Hey, you know what, figure it out.
50:30
Or if you don't, but you're going to sit right here.
50:32
And that's what they did. And I think everybody handles it
50:35
different. I think that team is completely
50:37
different because in situations and good, you can probably talk
50:40
about this as well where it usually when we see it as
50:45
players, we handle it ourselves. And that more times than not
50:50
works because there are times where you need to embarrass
50:54
somebody, be like, dude, this isn't it.
50:56
Like I don't care, there's no excuse for that.
51:00
I would rather have a guy layout and miss it then pull up lane
51:04
and be like, like we saw it with PCA and with the Cubs.
51:08
He forgot how many outs there were.
51:10
It happens. It's a brain fart, yeah.
51:13
But when it continually happens like what we've seen with him,
51:18
then it then it becomes a problem.
51:20
We saw Larry Walker throw the ball and give the ball away and
51:23
he's like, oh, there's only two outs.
51:24
You know, it happens. There are things that happen
51:27
like that. But I think when it comes down
51:29
to it usually, and they're they're, that's where Kutch has
51:33
to take over. I think honestly because he's
51:35
the only one that can say anything at that point.
51:39
Maybe Adam Fraser too. He's been around for quite a
51:41
while. I mean, physical errors are
51:44
going to happen. I don't think any, you know, you
51:46
might get pissed off, especially as a player.
51:49
You're pitching in, a physical error happens, but you know, the
51:51
guys are not out there trying to make errors, mental mistakes,
51:54
Those are more of the ones that like can't happen.
51:57
They're going to happen throughout the course of the
51:59
season. You play every single day.
52:01
Sometimes you wake up on the road.
52:03
You don't even know what city you're in.
52:04
That happened to me multiple times.
52:06
You wake up and you're in Detroit and you feel like you're
52:08
like, I'm in Detroit. I thought I was in, I thought I
52:10
was back home, you know, and so I get it.
52:14
Guys are tired. We're getting to the mid midway
52:15
part of the season. We're looking for the All Star
52:17
break. We're looking for a little blow
52:19
here. But if it continually happens,
52:22
you know, then obviously something has to be done.
52:24
And by sitting O'Neill Cruz or taking taking O'Neill Cruz out
52:28
in that game is probably the right decision.
52:29
Kind of just like, hey, you know, this is a you're kind of
52:33
sending a message not just to him, but to the rest of the
52:35
team. Like, listen, we have a standard
52:38
here and you, you're not meeting that standard.
52:40
And I don't think it was bad at all.
52:43
Hopefully it's a wake up call for him and we get him back on
52:47
the right track. And as Java said, once the
52:49
manager deals with it, then Koch can come in and put his hand
52:53
around him and not necessarily in front of the team, but maybe
52:57
taking to dinner and see what's going on.
52:59
We're, we're humans too. Listen, we're humans too.
53:01
You don't have perfect days at work.
53:03
Nobody has perfect days. Nobody's 100 for 100 and
53:06
perfect, you know, being perfect at work.
53:08
It happens. So happens in baseball and you
53:10
can see it, it's magnified and it's bad.
53:13
So, and of course the fans get on it, especially with people
53:16
betting and all that. It's a big deal.
53:18
So, you know, it's, it's part of it, part of it.
53:24
You know, I, I, I had to just think about our, our host Errol
53:27
Marx here for a second in his hockey career and what he would
53:31
do as a leader on his team if someone wasn't pulling their
53:35
weight on his line. How would would you have handled
53:38
it so peaceably, Errol? What I would do is I go to the
53:42
coach and tell him to sit every single person on the line and
53:44
just throw me out there. I'm just kidding.
53:52
Obviously, if, if they're not throwing their weights, you
53:54
actually, you go out to if the usually if you're on the bad
53:59
side of the coaches, you know, shit list, he sits you on the
54:03
other side of the bench. And if you're the captain,
54:05
you're the assistant captain of the team.
54:07
You're you're sitting out there on the bench and you're trying
54:09
to pump them up and try to get them moving in the right
54:12
direction and playing better, better, you know, better hockey
54:14
or or better baseball or whatever you're doing.
54:17
You're you'll have to be a leader.
54:19
And if if they don't like it, then you tell them to sit and
54:22
ride the bench and they're not playing for the rest of the
54:24
game, that's what that's what I would do.
54:27
So. Well, let's I wonder how many
54:30
weeks we go before our next pirate story.
54:33
You're on Java in the mouth. We only got to really got to
54:36
wait a few minutes. Might not be that long.
54:40
Yeah, we will talk about them, but really more for the guy that
54:43
beat them, Mr. Mizarowski. But we'll talk about him on
54:47
Inside Baseball. This has been a call to the pen.
54:52
Well, it's been an interesting one.
54:53
Thank you to TJ Ward. He's had us.
54:55
He's had a really good, you know, good takes when it came to
55:00
football and and he's a great personality.
55:02
And I didn't know he was an agent.
55:04
That's a pretty cool thing. I I am.
55:06
I've been He owns an. He owns an agency.
55:08
He's not an. Agent, I'm sorry, he owns an.
55:10
Agent. He can't legally say that.
55:12
Yeah. What?
55:12
What? Legally, you don't even have to
55:15
be. You don't have to have a college
55:17
education to be an agent. That's the truth.
55:19
You just need to be. Certified.
55:20
No, you just, you just have to be certified.
55:21
You have to pass like a bar or something.
55:23
Like that, No, you don't have to pass a.
55:24
Bar it's a book and then you take a test.
55:26
Yeah, it's just a test and, and honestly, I've met a lot of I
55:30
went to the NHL draft quite a few times and after that I would
55:34
they would a lot of the agents would go to these bars and a lot
55:37
of them, especially the Ukraine Russian ones that are, you know,
55:41
agents of a lot of the Russian players.
55:43
They don't have any college education whatsoever.
55:46
They don't have a law degree or nothing.
55:48
They just know how to read. They know how to read contracts
55:51
and they took the certification. Like Jabba said, that's all they
55:53
had to do. Congratulations to Mr. Goody as
55:57
he is doing his first Guardian postgame and pregame show.
56:01
So looking forward to checking that out on Saturday and his
56:05
first color with the Guardian too.
56:07
So he'll be doing a couple of those this coming season with
56:10
Colorado and all the the other games that he's going to be
56:13
doing with. So congratulations to our boy
56:15
Nick. Goody tell Andre not he can suck
56:19
it. I will.
56:20
I love him by the way, he's the best.
56:23
I love him too. I'll tell him he's awesome.
56:26
Again, thank you. He is awesome.
56:27
Thank you to TJ Ward. He was fantastic for the time
56:29
that he gave us. I know he's a busy dude, so
56:32
thank you to him. And he's he has his own agency.
56:34
He's doing all these great thing since he's walked away from the
56:37
game of football. Thank you to all the fans.
56:40
And by the way, we do have Apple video, which speedy didn't
56:43
really give us any information. So we do have Apple video,
56:47
ladies and gentlemen, so you can check us out on Apple video,
56:51
Spotify video, Apple Audio, Spotify audio on TikTok, on
56:57
Facebook, on Instagram, on Odd X on YouTube, Jabba in the mouth.
57:04
Thank you to all the fans tuning in and checking us out on all
57:07
the social medias and all the different platforms where we are
57:11
on Speedy. What do we have next week?
57:13
So Nathan had a guest for Thursday, but if we're moving to
57:16
Wednesday, we'll see if he comes on.
57:17
Otherwise I don't have anything yet.
57:19
Who was it going to be? Bengals and X Bengals and Titans
57:21
receiver Carl Pickens. I'm sure he will.
57:24
I'm sure see if Nick was able. To reschedule him for one of
57:26
those days. I don't have anyone else at the
57:28
moment. I actually have two guests
57:29
already scheduled for the week after already.
57:31
Oh yeah? Who's that?
57:31
So we have a Knicks guy, Ben Lyons.
57:34
Oh, no, Ben. Yep.
57:35
So Ben will be joining us. On Ben's good man, he's one of
57:37
the better Knick writers. Yes, he'll be joining us on
57:40
Monday at 9:00 and then returning the show on Thursday
57:44
will be our friend Phoenix Suns and Dallas Cowboys broadcaster
57:47
Kevin Ray will be joining us at. 9 Kevin's finally joining us
57:51
again. I'm sure he has his own opinion
57:54
about his Phoenix Suns. That'll be fun.
57:57
He's actually, he's the Cowboys play by play guy on the radio.
58:00
He is, he is honest to, he's the honest, most honest person when
58:05
it comes to Cowboys football. So he's not going to beat around
58:08
the Bush with the Cowboys. And I'm sure he has his thoughts
58:11
to the organization and what they did at this year's draft,
58:14
which everybody thinks they had a good draft.
58:16
I thought they did, actually, yeah.
58:17
So it'll be interesting. So anyways, again, thank you to
58:20
all the fans, thank you to everybody.
58:22
Keep tuning in. We will be on next week Tuesday
58:25
and Wednesday and we're moving our show the week after for now
58:29
on. And we're staying that way
58:32
Mondays and Wednesdays moving forward as the football season
58:37
is moving closer and closer. Until then, this is Errol Jabba,
58:42
Nick Fish, Tommy, Speedy and all you mongrels and all our
58:49
interns, Zach, Aaron, Jake, everybody.
58:52
We'll be back next week. Goodnight everybody.
58:55
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