Latest / Sid & Friends In The Morning / John Coyle | Lawyer Celebrates Big Win in Essex County Related to Religious Discrimination
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I'll talk to this guy now. My friend Victoria Cabus
- 0:03Speaker 1: made me aware of this story. It's a big story.
- 0:06Speaker 1: A lot of New Jersey people that fight everyday parental
- 0:09Speaker 1: rights and religious exemptions and some anti-vax people as well.
- 0:14Speaker 1: Others who are just worried about the future of their
- 0:17Speaker 1: children and what the government and the city and state
- 0:20Speaker 1: make you do. And I appreciate all of that. Made
- 0:22Speaker 1: me aware of this story about some gentleman named Teddy
- 0:25Speaker 1: de Blasio and a lawyer out of Essex County named
- 0:29Speaker 1: John Coyle. So with that said, John, Welcome to Sid
- 0:33Speaker 1: and Friends in the Morning, and let me start by
- 0:35Speaker 1: saying congratulations.
- 0:37Speaker 2: Thank you, Sid. It's an honor and a pleasure to
- 0:39Speaker 2: be on your show.
- 0:40Speaker 3: Honored to have you too. Thank you, John. I appreciate that.
- 0:42Speaker 1: So just give the details because as far as I know,
- 0:45Speaker 1: de Blasio, a groundskeeper here in New Jersey, right?
- 0:49Speaker 3: Not a very, very wealthy man.
- 0:51Speaker 1: He decided based on his religion that he was not
- 0:54Speaker 1: going to get the vaccine during the COVID-19 days. And
- 0:58Speaker 1: like a lot of people in New Jersey, New York
- 1:00Speaker 1: and around the country, he got screwed, right? He lost
- 1:03Speaker 1: his job. Now, I guess he got that back money back,
- 1:06Speaker 1: but he, By the time that happens, a lot of
- 1:08Speaker 1: these people are already ruined. Correct me if I'm wrong,
- 1:11Speaker 1: this religious exemption win for you was the first ever
- 1:15Speaker 1: in the history of that state.
- 1:17Speaker 3: Isn't that right? That is.
- 1:20Speaker 4: This is the first jury verdict in New Jersey. There
- 1:22Speaker 4: are other people in New York who've won these successfully
- 1:25Speaker 4: through administrative proceedings. My good friend Christina Martinez has been
- 1:28Speaker 4: helping New York's bravest and New York's finest get reinstated
- 1:31Speaker 4: for these vaccine mandates. But first in front of a jury,
- 1:34Speaker 4: there's only been a handful of these nationwide. And it's
- 1:39Speaker 4: really a function of a couple of things. Yes, Teddy
- 1:41Speaker 4: was seeking a religious exemption due to his deep Christian faith.
- 1:45Speaker 4: And it turns out the corruption and rot behind the
- 1:48Speaker 4: scenes at all these counties and all these employers is
- 1:51Speaker 4: deeper than even you might even know. In practice, Essex
- 1:55Speaker 4: County denied every single Christian's religious exemption, telling anybody from
- 2:01Speaker 4: no matter what your job was, including, as I said,
- 2:03Speaker 4: Teddy was a groundskeeper at the hospital, that he couldn't
- 2:08Speaker 4: be accommodated with masking and testing because And that his
- 2:11Speaker 4: beliefs were fake. He failed to meet a mystical standard
- 2:14Speaker 4: that they never explained to anybody. Meanwhile, at the exact
- 2:17Speaker 4: same time, if you were Muslim, you had your religious
- 2:21Speaker 4: exemption rubber stamped. Even when one of the Muslims submitted
- 2:25Speaker 4: a photocopy of the others, they were rubber stamped and approved.
- 2:31Speaker 1: Hold on, I'm going to stop you right there because
- 2:33Speaker 1: this is a big deal for me because I'm not
- 2:36Speaker 1: sure if you listen every day, John, and of course
- 2:39Speaker 1: you're in New Jersey and I'm in New York, but
- 2:41Speaker 1: I go on the air every day and I eviscerate
- 2:45Speaker 1: the mayor, not because he's Muslim, but because I believe
- 2:48Speaker 1: he's radical Islam. I have no issue with God-bearing, nice
- 2:52Speaker 1: Muslim people.
- 2:53Speaker 3: Nobody would, of course.
- 2:54Speaker 1: But I had no idea there was a Muslim part
- 2:57Speaker 1: of this story where they were being treated differently in
- 3:01Speaker 1: New Jersey than my Christian friends.
- 3:05Speaker 4: You nailed it 100%. So listen, by the way, I'm
- 3:07Speaker 4: originally from Staten Island in Brooklyn. So I've been a
- 3:10Speaker 4: long time 77 listener, even though like you at times,
- 3:13Speaker 4: I stayed on the side of the river.
- 3:17Speaker 2: Let me say this.
- 3:18Speaker 4: It's 100% right. And it doesn't matter what your take
- 3:21Speaker 4: on exemptions is. It doesn't matter what your take about
- 3:24Speaker 4: vaccines or anything else. Discrimination is discrimination. And Essex County
- 3:29Speaker 4: put in place a policy. And let's just be clear,
- 3:32Speaker 4: the Muslims who were allowed to continue working were a
- 3:35Speaker 4: nurse and a hospital attendant who worked daily directly with
- 3:40Speaker 4: patients in every possible intimate way you could. Meanwhile, the groundskeeper,
- 3:44Speaker 4: because he's Christian, couldn't. that sums up the world, the
- 3:50Speaker 4: rot at the core of Essex County more than anything else.
- 3:53Speaker 3: Well, not just Essex County.
- 3:54Speaker 1: You know, look, I mean, I'm Jewish, obviously, and I
- 3:56Speaker 1: rage against anti-Semitism every day. And, you know, I believe
- 4:00Speaker 1: that it's out of control.
- 4:01Speaker 3: I really do. And people try to mask it. They go, no, no, no.
- 4:04Speaker 3: We don't dislike the Jews. We don't like Zionists. Okay.
- 4:07Speaker 1: Once you tell me that, the odds are about 90%.
- 4:09Speaker 1: You don't like Jews either.
- 4:10Speaker 3: Okay.
- 4:11Speaker 1: So I'm here every day to protect them. But I'm
- 4:13Speaker 1: also here to say, you know, you're laughing because you
- 4:14Speaker 1: know I'm right, John, but The Christians, they are the
- 4:19Speaker 1: ones who take more abuse and are murdered more than
- 4:22Speaker 1: anybody else around the world, including Jews. And we're starting
- 4:26Speaker 1: to see a lot of issues, churches, schools, right here
- 4:30Speaker 1: in the United States. So it's not just the Jews. Yes,
- 4:34Speaker 1: in New York, the Jews are far and away the
- 4:36Speaker 1: group of people that are the clobbered. It's like 70%
- 4:40Speaker 1: of the hate crimes. But the Christian people... especially around
- 4:44Speaker 1: the world, they are going through the same types of things.
- 4:48Speaker 1: So to hear this out of Essex County, New Jersey,
- 4:51Speaker 1: from my Christian friends, really bothers me.
- 4:55Speaker 2: It should.
- 4:56Speaker 4: It should really bother anybody because... Because setting in motion
- 5:00Speaker 4: different standards and different policies for people, depending upon what
- 5:03Speaker 4: their beliefs are, is just pure wrong and evil. It's
- 5:07Speaker 4: against everything our country stands for and everything legally there is.
- 5:10Speaker 4: And that's, at the end of the day, that was
- 5:12Speaker 4: my pitch to this jury, which was, look, a jury
- 5:15Speaker 4: of multiple backgrounds. Essex County is a wonderfully diverse place.
- 5:19Speaker 4: Not necessarily full of Republicans, but it's a very diverse place.
- 5:23Speaker 4: And the point I said to everybody is, if you decide,
- 5:26Speaker 4: if Teddy... had been a Muslim, would his exemption have
- 5:30Speaker 4: been granted? And I think the answer was unequivocally yes.
- 5:36Speaker 2: Wow.
- 5:37Speaker 1: So do you think now, again, you've had success in
- 5:40Speaker 1: Essex County, and it's difficult for you to speak on
- 5:42Speaker 1: behalf of the whole state.
- 5:44Speaker 3: It's a large state. But do you.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Think we are moving towards more religious exemption now? In
- 5:52Speaker 1: states and around the country, knowing now what we know
- 5:55Speaker 1: about COVID, especially the vaccines and all the lies that
- 5:59Speaker 1: were told. I mean, obviously, Anthony Fauci should be put
- 6:02Speaker 1: in prison. He should get the death penalty, Anthony Fauci.
- 6:04Speaker 3: Let's be honest.
- 6:05Speaker 1: Do you think that what happened with you and de
- 6:07Speaker 1: Blasio in Essex County will now start to mirror other
- 6:10Speaker 1: cases around the country?
- 6:13Speaker 2: Well, I hope so.
- 6:14Speaker 4: I mean, it's not a newsflash to say lawyer thinks
- 6:17Speaker 4: lawsuits change society, but they do, right? And I have
- 6:22Speaker 4: a number of these other lawsuits. I file over 75
- 6:24Speaker 4: COVID lawsuits at the height of the pandemic, and several
- 6:28Speaker 4: of them are still pending. So I think that this
- 6:30Speaker 4: is the tip of the iceberg. The sad part of
- 6:32Speaker 4: this is every time somebody gets the sniffles where there's
- 6:35Speaker 4: a story in the news, the first thing everybody runs
- 6:38Speaker 4: up in the media, not on 77, of course, runs
- 6:41Speaker 4: on the media to do is take away people's religious
- 6:43Speaker 4: rights and take further freedoms. I think we're going to
- 6:46Speaker 4: see this come up again. I think it's going to
- 6:49Speaker 4: come up any time that there's an opportunity. There's a deep, deep,
- 6:53Speaker 4: evil rot of people who don't know where our country
- 6:56Speaker 4: came from. and they're looking to quash people's religious beliefs
- 7:00Speaker 4: at every opportunity they can. Christian, Jewish, perhaps not exactly Muslim,
- 7:06Speaker 4: but that's the sign of the time we have.
- 7:08Speaker 1: Listen, John, I know that we've got a lot of
- 7:11Speaker 1: Muslim people here now, and you can thank Joe Biden
- 7:13Speaker 1: for that, but this country was not built on Islam, okay?
- 7:16Speaker 1: This country was built on Judeo-Christian values. That doesn't mean
- 7:20Speaker 1: everybody's not welcome here. That doesn't mean everybody is not...
- 7:23Speaker 1: you know, welcome to practice their own religion, do what
- 7:26Speaker 1: they want to do.
- 7:26Speaker 3: Of course not. Of course not.
- 7:28Speaker 1: But this country was built on Judeo-Christian values. You know,
- 7:33Speaker 1: that is the bottom line. I got to tell you,
- 7:35Speaker 1: for people that were fighting for parental rights, people that
- 7:39Speaker 1: were fighting for religious exemptions, I'm going to tell you this. Seven,
- 7:43Speaker 1: eight years ago, John, those people looked like wackos. Those wackos,
- 7:47Speaker 1: what are they, crazy? And I got to tell you,
- 7:50Speaker 1: They knew they were right all the way back then,
- 7:52Speaker 1: but most people didn't. Years and years later, those people
- 7:55Speaker 1: were in the right. And thank God they've got a
- 7:58Speaker 1: voice like you, John Coyle, to represent them today.
- 8:03Speaker 4: By the way, this is not an anti-Muslim rant. This
- 8:06Speaker 4: is simply a fact that you shouldn't have separate standards
- 8:08Speaker 4: for everybody. Everybody's religious beliefs should be accepted in this
- 8:11Speaker 4: country if you're willing to become part of this country
- 8:15Speaker 4: and live by our laws and rules. And what happened
- 8:18Speaker 4: here– listen, keep fighting the fight you're doing. Keep saying
- 8:21Speaker 4: the things you are and keep– Keep all of those accountable.
- 8:26Speaker 2: As best we can.
- 8:27Speaker 4: We may never get justice for Fauci and other people,
- 8:29Speaker 4: but we can only hope for the future.
- 8:31Speaker 1: So give me on the way out here, John, you're terrific,
- 8:33Speaker 1: by the way. God bless you. Give me Teddy de Blasio.
- 8:36Speaker 1: What kind of life is he living these days? I
- 8:38Speaker 1: think I already got a lot of his back paid back.
- 8:40Speaker 2: Yes.
- 8:41Speaker 4: Well, so Teddy got a award on paper. The jury
- 8:45Speaker 4: came back last Friday. We have yet we have further
- 8:47Speaker 4: proceedings dealing with in court, and we don't yet to
- 8:49Speaker 4: see if Essex County is going to fight that. Teddy
- 8:52Speaker 4: got his beliefs validated. He had a jury of his
- 8:55Speaker 4: peers tell him that they accepted his beliefs and accepted
- 8:59Speaker 4: his faith and determined unanimously that he was discriminated against
- 9:03Speaker 4: because he was a Christian. The law, I don't want
- 9:07Speaker 4: to or your listeners, but there's a long way between
- 9:10Speaker 4: getting a verdict and Teddy actually getting it. But Teddy's
- 9:13Speaker 4: had his beliefs validated and accepted by his peers.
- 9:17Speaker 2: And that's the biggest step that anyone could hope for.
- 9:19Speaker 3: No, no, you're right about that. I don't think Fred
- 9:21Speaker 3: Goldman got paid yet. You know what I'm saying, John?
- 9:24Speaker 3: I think O.J.
- 9:26Speaker 1: Owed him about $ 40 million when he died. Listen, it's
- 9:29Speaker 1: a great job you did. You really did. And it's
- 9:31Speaker 1: a very, very important case. And I really hope that
- 9:35Speaker 1: you're the beginning. You're the pioneer, John, and lots of
- 9:37Speaker 1: other people that have been screwed along the way for
- 9:41Speaker 1: a variety of issues dating back to the COVID era.
- 9:44Speaker 1: Get what they deserve with great attorneys like you. John Coyle,
- 9:48Speaker 1: thank you so much.
- 9:49Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Sid. Keep going and God bless.
- 9:52Speaker 3: Thank you, too.
- 9:53Speaker 1: John Coyle right there, big-time attorney in Essex County, winning
- 9:57Speaker 1: a very, very big case with Teddy de Blasio.
- 10:07Speaker 3: What the heck is going on here?