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All the single ladies HATE moms for this one reason | Maintaining Frame 148 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name
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  Speaker 1: is Brian Alison and this is maintaining frame number one.
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  Speaker 1: All the single ladies hate moms for this one reason.
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  Speaker 2: Where we're going to be looking at recent four videos,
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  Speaker 2: four four videos from four different.
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  Speaker 1: It's a cancer, people, guess women women who are all
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  Speaker 1: having a bit of a reaction to the opinions of
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  Speaker 1: other women over a video clip that went viral involving
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  Speaker 1: two other women discussing family.
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  Speaker 3: It's from your favorite podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, my absolute favorite of all time podcasts, Call
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  Speaker 1: Her Daddy, which I told you guys, like way back
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  Speaker 1: when I've just first discovered it, that this was going
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  Speaker 1: to be a thing we're gonna have to wrestle with
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  Speaker 1: frequently because it is the most popular podcast for women
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  Speaker 1: on Spotify, number one with women.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't even know it existed until you graciously inform
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  Speaker 3: me of its existence.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I wish no, but yeah, And we're not
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  Speaker 1: responding to Call Her Daddy's podcast, but a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: a little bit sort of, but we're gonna be responding
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  Speaker 1: to the response to that was on Call Her Daddy.
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  Speaker 3: The ever expanding wave Yeah of selopsism. Can we say
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  Speaker 3: that sylopsism, I think that would be allism.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Brian, how you pronounce it? Yeah, which basically
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  Speaker 1: means the world does not exist unless I'm in it.
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  Speaker 4: Like I am.
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  Speaker 1: It's like I am the world every year of object permanence.
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  Speaker 1: Like why does peekaboo work on babies? Because babies think
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  Speaker 1: that when your hands are covering your that you disappear
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  Speaker 1: like they don't know that it's there. And uh, that's
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  Speaker 1: because babies are solipsistic, like they only think that their
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  Speaker 1: world is the only world. Their emotions, their needs are
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  Speaker 1: the only needs. That's why when they speaking of babies,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna be this is gonna be about babies featuring babies.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, this is like the way their brains work.
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  Speaker 1: And I have noticed that. Well, I'll say is that
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  Speaker 1: solveism seems to be like an issue that a lot
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  Speaker 1: of modern women have today where this is why the
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  Speaker 1: POV meme doesn't they don't understand it. They're in the
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  Speaker 1: pov meme, which is like an inversion of what it
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  Speaker 1: should be. That's why you have that like meme. Or
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  Speaker 1: it's like you know, when a man takes a picture
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  Speaker 1: of an object versus when a woman takes a picture
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  Speaker 1: of an object, and when a woman takes a picture
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  Speaker 1: of an object, she's in the picture and she takes
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  Speaker 1: up most of it, you know. Like there was a
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  Speaker 1: viral photo of a woman who made a painting of
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  Speaker 1: Pikachu from Pokemon and she was like, this is my
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  Speaker 1: first attempt at painting a Pikachu. But the picture is
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  Speaker 1: of her holding the painting below her gigantic breasts, which
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  Speaker 1: like all cleavage out and she's smiling. She's not showing
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  Speaker 1: us the pikachuw like that, you know, Like anyway, there's
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  Speaker 1: countless examples, but that's what this conversation has become essentially,
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  Speaker 1: because we know we have a well we'll get into
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  Speaker 1: the videos, but we're gonna be looking at a response
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  Speaker 1: to a interview conducted by a famous music person I've
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  Speaker 1: never heard of because I haven't kept track of the
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  Speaker 1: music world in a long time named Chappelle ron I
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  Speaker 1: think that's how you say it. And she was on
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  Speaker 1: call her daddy and she was basically explaining to the
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  Speaker 1: host that mothers are miserable, and her evidence of that
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  Speaker 1: is her friends who are mothers are miserable because having
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  Speaker 1: children is the worst thing or at least this is
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  Speaker 1: what we're supposed to take away from it. And then
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  Speaker 1: there was like a reaction from mothers, and this is
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  Speaker 1: the reaction to the reaction from the mothers who they're
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  Speaker 1: calling conservative influencers or something, but they're just moms with kids,
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  Speaker 1: so I don't know. I guess that's a political thing
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  Speaker 1: right now, to be a mother.
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  Speaker 3: The reaction to the reaction to the reaction. And now
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  Speaker 3: we're doing a reaction. So it's a lot of it's
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  Speaker 3: a Russian doll series of reactions.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So.
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  Speaker 3: It eventually gets down to us. He eventually filters down
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  Speaker 3: to us at the the hypothalamus of the human subconscious,
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  Speaker 3: collective subconscious. All right, so I think the I was
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  Speaker 3: talking to Brian about this, I actually did like a
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  Speaker 3: how many pages is this?
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  Speaker 4: Like?
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  Speaker 3: Five pages of notes on this, which is why I'm
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  Speaker 3: wearing my welding black goggles instead of my usual orange goggles.
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  Speaker 3: Those are the only mildly headachey goggles. These are the
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  Speaker 3: ones where I've got a throbbing headache. And it's it's
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  Speaker 3: in part because of these women and having to go
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  Speaker 3: through their nest of illogic and self contradiction, because they
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  Speaker 3: do a lot of that. It starts to feel like
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  Speaker 3: the point of talking for them is to maintain a
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  Speaker 3: particular emotional feeling about something, as opposed to being logical
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  Speaker 3: and consistent, which is particularly aggravating for me. So I
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  Speaker 3: apologize for the welding goggles, but they are made necessary
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  Speaker 3: by the sheer cancer that we shall now discuss. And
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  Speaker 3: I suggested Brian, we just start with Hannah Cox and
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  Speaker 3: focus on Hannah because I know this is going to
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  Speaker 3: sound really crazy. She is the one that most keeps
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  Speaker 3: to the topic and gives the most information about the topic.
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  Speaker 3: It's mostly just gathering up all the various thoughts and yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so she actually is the one who is the Can
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  Speaker 3: I say the word rational in all of this? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: in so far this could be considered reasonable if.
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  Speaker 1: You're if you're comparing her to the other Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean she at the very least she's sort of
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  Speaker 3: explaining her opinion on the subject rather than going off
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  Speaker 3: on very bizarre tangents. But anyway, she she keeps it concise,
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  Speaker 3: which could be an element of rationality if we're being generous.
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  Speaker 3: All right, so let's let's let's start.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, do you have to do things first?
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  Speaker 1: run crisis. That's a that's a gamer.
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  Speaker 3: That's okay.
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  Speaker 1: Now, but yeah, I'm not.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not particularly a gamer.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm actually more of an art and and writing nerd.
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  Speaker 1: So well, we can say like Photoshop seven, you can
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  Speaker 1: run Photoshop seven. Nothing, okay, but anyway, let's yeah, let's
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  Speaker 1: get into it. So just jump to the first time code.
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  Speaker 1: You want the context from Hannah Cox.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, let's do the context. Let's just let her
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  Speaker 3: do the work for us.
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  Speaker 5: You do not want to piss off online, it's mothers.
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  Speaker 5: If there's one group of people you do not want
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  Speaker 5: to piss off online, it's mothers. But apparently no one
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  Speaker 5: told shap will Roam that in her media.
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  Speaker 6: Training, and as it's becoming a bit.
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  Speaker 5: Of the norm for her when it comes to major interviews,
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  Speaker 5: she super stuffed in it. Last week, Chapel appeared on
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  Speaker 5: the Call Her Daddy podcast, where she told hosts Alex
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  Speaker 5: Cooper this, all of.
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  Speaker 3: My friends who have kids are in hell.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know anyone.
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  Speaker 7: I actually don't know anyone who's like happy and has
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  Speaker 7: children at this age. I have like like a one
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  Speaker 7: year old, like three year old, four and under five
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  Speaker 7: and under, don't I literally have not met anyone who's happy,
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  Speaker 7: anyone who has like light in their eyes, anyone who
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  Speaker 7: has who has slept.
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  Speaker 5: People who have never watched the Call Her Daddy Show,
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  Speaker 5: people who have never heard of Chapel Roan have seen
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  Speaker 5: this clip. It went megaviral and moms have been taking
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  Speaker 5: it uber personally and very in their feelings ever since.
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  Speaker 1: But all right, uh, is there more to this? I
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  Speaker 1: mean this is is this enough context?
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  Speaker 4: Uh?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's enough context for that part. Let
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  Speaker 3: me just open up my notes.
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  Speaker 1: I got it right here four forty seven. So, basically,
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  Speaker 1: Chappelle Roan is a musician. She is a I think
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  Speaker 1: she's identify as as queer or thumb.
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  Speaker 3: She wears men's clothings, which you wear.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she basically does the Madonna slash Lady Gaga slash.
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  Speaker 1: You know what was that actress that like, basically she's
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  Speaker 1: doing the androgynist thing. Okay, oh, I know who you're.
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  Speaker 3: But there was an older.
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  Speaker 1: Actress, Yes, the old actress. It's on the tip of
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  Speaker 1: my tongue. But like a German woman or something, right, but.
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  Speaker 3: Marlo no Diatrit Trich.
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  Speaker 1: Dietrick, Marlena Dietrich. Yes, she essentially there's always been in
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  Speaker 1: the celebrity space. You know, women who are shattering norms
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  Speaker 1: and they just put on pants and then everybody acts
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  Speaker 1: like the world is on fire. Marlena Dietrich. Yeah, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's been going on for decades and decades, like probably
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  Speaker 1: one hundred years or longer. But this is the latest
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  Speaker 1: version of that. And but that's not really what this
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  Speaker 1: is about. It's not really about Chappelle. Rome's like fashion sense,
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  Speaker 1: of which is awful. She looks like a circus clown
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  Speaker 1: in my opinion, but it's really her. You know, she's
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  Speaker 1: like a queer lesbian musician and Mary she wants to
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  Speaker 1: marry a girl at some point. And she was on
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  Speaker 1: the Call Her Daddy podcast essentially saying that people with
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  Speaker 1: children are miserable, or at least everyone she knows. This
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  Speaker 1: is like anecdotal, but you know, I don't think the
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  Speaker 1: statement exists in a vacuum. And mothers on the internet,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, saw it, and they had words about it,
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  Speaker 1: they had thoughts, they had opinions.
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  Speaker 3: Well, because she's looking at it from the outside, and
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  Speaker 3: they wanted to explain their perspective from the inside, at
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  Speaker 3: least some of them. But the other thing I wanted
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  Speaker 3: to point out was she said she did a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of a martyrdom thing and said, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if I'll be able to marry my Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: what are you talking about? Like President Trump? And I
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  Speaker 3: know this may not sit well with conservatives, but President
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  Speaker 3: Trump was the first president who actually was for gay
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  Speaker 3: marriage when he took office. Right, the guy is not
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  Speaker 3: going to take away your marriage lady. No, of course not,
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  Speaker 3: you know if we have, And I mean I wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: because I'm part sort of not officially I guess part
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  Speaker 3: of the lgbt Q plus whatever, but I mean I
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't advocate for that. I'd rather people who were queer
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  Speaker 3: be in long term relationships. You have to do that,
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  Speaker 3: you know. But yeah, it's it's it's not going to happen.
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  Speaker 3: But anyway, I just wanted to point out that she
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  Speaker 3: had that little bit of martyrdom.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I was going to bring that up
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  Speaker 1: a little bit later because about that. No, it's okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's all right, all right, Okay. So that's the context
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  Speaker 1: is that women are I guess they have opinions on
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  Speaker 1: this statement because it it it you know, reeks of
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  Speaker 1: anti natalist sentiment, and they have opinions on that because
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  Speaker 1: they themselves have children and they don't like the anti
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  Speaker 1: natalist sentiment. I mean, that's like the general I think
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  Speaker 1: reaction that people have. But let's jump ahead to this
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  Speaker 1: first time code. See it's like right here.
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  Speaker 6: Well, and even then bias can take effect.
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  Speaker 5: So there are plenty of studies out there that say
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  Speaker 5: single women who never marry and women who don't have
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  Speaker 5: kids are the happiest. And there's also studies out there
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  Speaker 5: that say married women are the happiest, or that say
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  Speaker 5: moms are the happiest.
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  Speaker 6: And guess what if you dig.
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  Speaker 5: Into who produces these studies, they tend to be organizations
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  Speaker 5: that have some kind of bias in you believing that
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  Speaker 5: one path is better than the other.
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  Speaker 6: But in reality, the only way to actually.
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  Speaker 3: Do Okay what you say about that, I mean, you
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  Speaker 3: can finish that if you want, because I will go
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  Speaker 3: through the actual studies.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because that.
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  Speaker 5: Is based on you and your individual needs and desires
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  Speaker 5: and wants and your situation. Not having kids is probably
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  Speaker 5: the right pathway for a lot of people who don't
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  Speaker 5: want to have kids, whereas not having kids for somebody
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  Speaker 5: who really desires having kids would make them unhappy.
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  Speaker 1: This is okay. Is there anything else?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, I'll respond to this because I'm a
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  Speaker 3: little bit hesitant because I think the Queer Kiwi makes
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  Speaker 3: this a similar point, and I can. I can actually.
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  Speaker 1: Ultimately, they all make a similar point. They all say,
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  Speaker 1: you know, women who because I think that when you're
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  Speaker 1: dealing Okay, let's let's first of all, let's be real
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  Speaker 1: about this, Okay. Queer k Kiwi and Brierty Claire are
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  Speaker 1: like far left kind of socialist feminists. Uh, Manifestel is
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  Speaker 1: basically a socialist feminist as well. She just didn't make
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  Speaker 1: it like political, but your sentiment is in line with that.
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  Speaker 1: She's like all about that it takes a village to
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  Speaker 1: raise child thing. And Hannah Cox is a libertarian feminist.
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  Speaker 1: But like, ultimately they all believe that women they have
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  Speaker 1: to like make the arguments when they're talking about women,
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  Speaker 1: they have to be they're they're walking like a very
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  Speaker 1: delicate line because they have to try not to sound
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  Speaker 1: like their misogynists because that word is so powerful. So
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  Speaker 1: they have to find ways to basically side with you know,
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  Speaker 1: women who don't want children and women who do want children,
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  Speaker 1: so that they don't look like a bad guy to
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  Speaker 1: either group without taking a side per se, and so
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  Speaker 1: they tend to side on you know, freedom of choice
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. And then to measure that they will cite
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  Speaker 1: studies that say women who don't have kids are more happy,
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  Speaker 1: or women who do have kids are more happy, or
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  Speaker 1: in the case of Hannahox, he's saying, well, there are
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  Speaker 1: some studies that'll show this, and there are some studies
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  Speaker 1: that'll show that, and rather than just say, you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe happiness is something that we can't really accurately measure,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, like, well, how do you even determine that?
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  Speaker 1: It's all like done by women just giving their opinion
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  Speaker 1: on how they feel, and who knows how they feel
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  Speaker 1: in the moment, and then we're using this as a
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  Speaker 1: data point to make the case for something one way
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  Speaker 1: or the other.
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  Speaker 3: I would honestly say that, Okay, I can go through
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  Speaker 3: the actual studies and what they say, or at least
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  Speaker 3: the study and what it says. But to your point,
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  Speaker 3: what we're watching is for women who are talking about
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  Speaker 3: what's best for women, yeah, and how the system can
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  Speaker 3: best benefit women. Now, I'll set aside the pure communists
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  Speaker 3: Byrony Byrony.
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  Speaker 1: And and.
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  Speaker 3: Rainbow sparkles. I didn't want to. I know, I want
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  Speaker 3: to go there. I want to go there. Sure, queer kiwi,
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  Speaker 3: queer kiwi. So let's set aside. All of these women
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  Speaker 3: are talking about what benefits women. Now, the communist women,
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  Speaker 3: those two, they're talking about not just benefiting women in
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  Speaker 3: terms of their material goods, but benefiting women in terms
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  Speaker 3: of their moral beliefs about reality. So we should follow
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  Speaker 3: women's beliefs that we can create a system in which
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  Speaker 3: everybody gets things based on their needs rather than their
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  Speaker 3: merit how much they contribute to the system. You know,
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  Speaker 3: so merit based system is you get based on how
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  Speaker 3: much you contribute to the system, and then you have
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  Speaker 3: kind of an incentive structure. That's capitalism, or that's capital
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  Speaker 3: or money. It's probably a better way of putting it,
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  Speaker 3: and that's the incentive structure. So you contribute to the
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  Speaker 3: system and you get something out of it. Now, at granted,
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  Speaker 3: this isn't a perfect system, especially when you involve government.
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  Speaker 3: Government can start making picking winners and losers, and government
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  Speaker 3: always seems to pick big corporations as a winners. So
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  Speaker 3: you know, there there is corruption in that system. But
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  Speaker 3: the basic element is that you put in you get
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  Speaker 3: something for putting something into the system. What they want
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  Speaker 3: to do is replace that with the system that provides
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  Speaker 3: based on people's needs. And that is a very I
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  Speaker 3: remember a while back I watched what were they called,
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  Speaker 3: It's the comic book Guys nerd Wonder I think, or
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  Speaker 3: no Nerdrotic, nerd Rotic, something like that. But they're big
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  Speaker 3: comic based YouTubers. And the guy said that communism is
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  Speaker 3: a fairy tale for girls, yes, and I was like, yes,
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  Speaker 3: that is the best way to put it. They want
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  Speaker 3: to create a system in which people get based on
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  Speaker 3: their needs. But who provides in that system? What is
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  Speaker 3: their incentive to provide for that system? If you don't
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  Speaker 3: grant people things based on how they benefit, how they provide, like,
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  Speaker 3: how they contribute to the system, you're not going to
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  Speaker 3: end up having much to distribute. Like, if you distribute
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  Speaker 3: to everyone based on the needs, then what is the
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  Speaker 3: incentive for anybody to go out there and get something
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  Speaker 3: based on their merit, based on their actions? And you
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  Speaker 3: see that this is like this is a very sort
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  Speaker 3: of a feminine approach. So the two communists want the
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  Speaker 3: resources of society to go to their sort of self
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  Speaker 3: righteous beliefs about how it should be arranged. And I'm
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  Speaker 3: not really sure if they would really want to sacrifice
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: for that, but that's that's sort of where they're going.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: So in that sense, it's almost and then. But Hannah Cox,
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: as a way of contrast, is only interested in how
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: things benefit her. Mm hmm, that's it. And Manifestel I
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: think Hannah Cox is also that way.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: She just she just libertarianism, yeah, is the way for
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: her as a woman to get the best like life.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: But it's all All four of these are sense discussing
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: how society can benefit them. It's why they don't really
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: understand motherhood or parenthood at all.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: They just want yeah, I'll go ahead.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: They just want the society to benefit them. Hannah Cox
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: thinks that pure meritocracy benefits her most, probably because she
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: thinks she's a massive boss babe, and Manifestelle thinks that
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: being able to suck as much from a man as
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: possible benefits her most, probably because she is not a
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: boss babe's she's more of a social manipulator. And Byrony
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: and the Key, we think that communism is how to
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: get the most from the system. And none of these
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: women stop and say, but what about the system? How
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: do we maintain the system?
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: We are both like gays, right, they're both like lesbians,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: So they don't want men, but they want the benefits
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: of male so they appeal to a system instead because
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: they don't want like I think that, and this is
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: what I believe anyway, I believe that Branny and Rainbow
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Shite are they're LARPing as queer because they're more like
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: political lesbians that don't want to deal with men or relationships,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: like they're anti social or something, and so instead they
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: advocate for a system, communism, so that they can get
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: provisions from men at the point of a gun, which
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: is the state. So because like women generally make appeals
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: to the state, like I think that Manifestel is doing
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: the same thing. She's just like she hasn't like overtly
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: stated it politically, but she will. She wants male provision
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: without having to give anything back, which is essentially what
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: the lesbian separatists in that we haven't looked at yet,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: but what they're advocating for is essentially, I want to
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: be treated like a princess, but I don't want a
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: man that I have to actually do anything for. So instead,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I'm going to advocate that a state do the job.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Big Daddy government is real. They are basically just saying
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: it out loud, while Manifestelle does not say it overtly,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: but she is probably fine with men figuring out some
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: other way to keep her safe and comfortable and living
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: whatever lifestyle she believes that she deserves without her having
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: to give anything back. Because all of these women are
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: basically saying I should not like even though they're trying
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: to play the whole well, if you want to have kids,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: have kids. If you don't want to have kids, it's okay,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: but all of them land on the I do not
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: want to have kids, and most importantly I don't want
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: to be judged for it, but I do expect to
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: be taken care of mentality. So normally, in order for
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: a system a society to work, you need people that
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: run it. If women are not having kids, then you're
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: not gonna have people like That's just what's going to happen.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: And the people who and what you are ensuring by
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: the way, people like Hannah Cox and Manifestel and those
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: political lesbians, is that you are not going to reproduce,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: and the people who you hate are going to reproduce,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: and their kids are gonna have those values most likely,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: So you're just gonna have to deal with more of
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: those people, so you're not really like it's a cope.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: And and there's another thing I want to get to
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: a little bit later, but ultimately, I think that whether
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: you're a libertarian feminist, a rad feme lesbian separatist, or
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: just like a you know, female dating strategy like hustle
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: bunny or whatever you want to call it, girl boss,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, they're all chasing the
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: same bag, which is men's productivity. And there's one one
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: way is that Hannah Cox basically does the whole like
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I'm only gonna, you know, give attention to the top
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: men because they're gonna have the best chance of providing.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: And so I'm gonna support things like free markets as
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: long as that serves me, while I'm also gonna shame
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: men that don't participate at you know, it's not even
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: men that don't want to participate at all, it's men
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: that don't participate at a sufficient level. Those men are
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: deserved to fail, and you know, like are scorned. And meanwhile,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: women who are struggling well, they need like every advantage
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: possible because they've been oppressed throughout history, which, by the way,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Hannacocks does mention in this video that women have been
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: historically oppressed. So she's just a feminist, like I've been
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: saying since the beginning. Meanwhile, Manifestel says, well, you know,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: she wants the same thing. She wants the benefits, and
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: and the other two Briannee and Rainbow Shite. They're just like,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: we're communists, so you know, we think the government should
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: do all of this stuff. And by the way, all
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: of that is essentially men doing all this stuff for them.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: So yeah, so to add to that, Actually I lost
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: my train of thought. I apologize, sorry, I know, it's
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: it's it's it's also the cat. The cat is being
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: very distracting right now. So they don't they don't actually
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: want to invest anything. They don't want to make any
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: effort on their part to maintain the system at all.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: They don't want to take the jobs that maintain the system.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: They don't want to have to give birth to the
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: children that will create the future, which is really interesting
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: because if they don't, they're going to have a pretty
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: rough old age. Like if they and if they don't like,
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: if they don't encourage it, they're they're gonna have a
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: pretty rough old age. But let's let's listen to a
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: bit more of Hanna Cocks. Uh yeah, so this the
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: next'll get I'll bring up my I'll bring up my
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: rebuttal when we get to uh. I think it was
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: actually Byrony Claire who talked about ev magazine and all
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: the studies.
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, or it's just and make it live on this earth.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: But nevertheless, it seems as though the targets for this
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: outrage click bait were hit, and boy did they respond.
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, I just want to I want to stop here. Okay,
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: everybody pause a moment. She acknowledges that moms were the
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: target of this outrage clickbait. Right, So moms were targeted
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: with abuse essentially, And I just want everybody to remember
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: that she said this, that moms were targeted with abuse
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: by this individual. And I mean, because what else is
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: clickbait rage but an abusive statement, right, that's intended to
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: get your dander up? And of course it is like
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: what this woman said was a condemnation of their life choice,
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: and it's a condemnation from a particular viewpoint that everything
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: has to revolve around women's comfort and needs, and women
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: can't extend themselves to sacrifice those things in order to
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: do something that's fulfilling on another level. So essentially, essentially,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: this woman believes that women level of actualization, you know
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Maslow's hierarchy of needs, that women's level of actualization maxes
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: out at physical comfort, safety, and socialization. So there's no
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: level above that. There's no self actualization, there's no the
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: development of an identity through virtues and virtues and ethics.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: It's all just women's comfort, women's safety, and socialization. That's it.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Those are the only levels, that moral levels that women
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: ever attain. So let's keep going.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Yep, Okay, that.
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: My house is chaotic.
• 27:47
  Speaker 8: I haven't had a full night of sleep in years,
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: but you know what, I've never been happier in my life.
• 27:52
  Speaker 8: There's a kind of joy that comes from motherhood that
• 27:56
  Speaker 8: you can't explain to people who only live for the
• 27:59
  Speaker 8: weekend or the next Instagram dopamine hit. Motherhood is messy
• 28:03
  Speaker 8: and exhausting, but it's also full of belly laughs, sleepy snuggles,
• 28:07
  Speaker 8: and tiny little voices saying I love you. It's honestly
• 28:10
  Speaker 8: the most meaningful thing that I have ever done. The
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: truth is that selfish people don't understand selfless joy. If
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: your definition of happiness is constant validation and zero responsibility.
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: Of course, kids sounds like a nightmare, but don't project
• 28:24
  Speaker 8: that emptiness onto moms. Don't act like we're in hell
• 28:29
  Speaker 8: just because we've found purpose in something bigger than ourselves.
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: Motherhood isn't hell. It's a blessing.
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: And if that makes you uncomfortable, maybe ask yourself why
• 28:38
  Speaker 8: these people are okay?
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: All right? And I also want to point out two things.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Cannacox recognizes that again, like one said, she recognizes that
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: this was targeted abuse, targeted at mothers. She also says, oh,
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: it's okay to whatever your lifestyle is, it's fine. But
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: now she's going to take offense over what this mother said.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: This mother is defending her lifestyle against a targeted attack
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: that Hannah Cox one percent just recognized is a targeted attack.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: This is what she has to say, all.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: Right, never beating the allegations that they are miserable. Like
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: everything you just said sounds awful. You're like, yeah, my
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: life sucks, I'm kind of in hell. But also I
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: get so much validation from this and so much joy
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: from this. Guess what, sweetie, that's great. Nobody said that
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: you weren't happy. Chapell wasn't talking about you. She specifically
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: said people that she knows in her life, her friends, like, bitch,
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: do you personally know Chapel Rowan, I don't think so.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: So this isn't a.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, this is dissembling. She was making it. She was
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: using people in her life to make a larger point
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: about motherhood.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all of a sudden, it's like, don't generalize. Meanwhile,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: let me generalize all these moms.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: But ironically, Hannah Cox contradicts herself later again because she
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: says here, oh, she not making a general point. And
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: then later on when somebody calls out, oh, what's her
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: name again, the.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Musician, Oh, Chapelle Rone.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Chappell Ron. When someone calls out Chappelle Rome for targeting
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: the people in her life specifically, she says, oh, no,
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: it's just generalization. Well, which is it?
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Right, it is?
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: So she just like I said, it's like, there's no
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: logical consistency that is warm, woman's worms, woman's thinking. It's
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: all just I want to maintain an emotional feeling in
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: the moment, and I think that emotional feeling is validation
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: over my life choices.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the mom did not claim that she wanted
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: to be validated. She literally said that maybe'na Cox. Well,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I know, I know, but I'm also playing the Hannah Cox. Okay,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Hannah Cox says that that sounds horrible what you're experiencing.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: That is your opinion of her experience. But her opinion
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: of her own experience is this may have there are
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: periods where it's difficult, but it's worth it. That's what
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: she's saying. You know, It's like, I mean, like, let's
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: take it out of children for a minute. Okay, you
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: own a dog, Allison, and you also have several pets.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: You take care of your pets, and it's not always fun,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: no that I mean, but you love your pets, so
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: it's worth it. I mean, I'm not saying children are pets,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but I'm saying, you know, like
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: doing something fulfilling may have a higher value than doing
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: something that is just for your own gratification in the moment.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: So Hannah Cock's is basically saying, I wouldn't want to
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: be a mother and sure, if you don't want to,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: that's fine. But this mother is saying, you know, maybe
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe you're missing out or this is what
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: I think about it as a she's giving you the
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: this is my perspective, you know, And Hannah Cox is
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: basically like discrediting that on the basis that she wouldn't
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: like to do that. But that mom is saying something
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I think is important that I said on the show
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: many times. You know, maybe you're not here on this
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: earth to be happy. Maybe you're here to be useful,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: and maybe if you don't, if you're not serving something,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: then you're not gonna be happy. Like it's it's like
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: an inevitability. It's like we're living in a very materialistic
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: time and you know, you're talking about Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Like what is at the higher end of that is
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: esteem needs right, independence and self acknowledgement, self actualization, right,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: and and those things don't come from just doing what
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: you want in the moment. I mean, do whatever you
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: want with your life. I'm not making a judgment on that,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: but like you know, Hannah Cox is trying to basically
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: say that she's living her life. This is like she's
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: claim mean on one hand that people should be able
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: to choose whatever they want, while simultaneously saying that the
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: way that she chooses is the best way or at
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: least ideal, or that there's a lot of advantages and
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: discounts what the woman's saying as her side, you know.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: And yeah, all of this really comes down to women
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: like fighting each other because they feel judged by one
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: another and they feel the need to like speak against it.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I think generally men just kind of like you know,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: that just washes off their back, like, Okay, this is
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: your opinion to me, I don't give a fuck, right, Yeah, I.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Think sometimes at least in from the man like the
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: menas for your community, I see a lot of backbiting
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: like that. But but you're probably right when it comes
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: to men who aren't terminally generally general yeah, generally, But sorry, Mike,
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: my cat is unusually sucky today, possibly because that.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: When Alison talks, the cat thinks she's talking to her
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: until she goes over.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but not always quite this much, you know, like
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: getting getting in in in there, just sticking herself in there.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: She's been throwing things off the table. I don't know
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: if you've been hearing thumps. That's what it's been. I
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: did want to. I did want it because the thing
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: is getting back to Hannah Cox. Yeah, she wants validation
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: for her lifestyle. But and she just said that these
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: women have been targeted, that these women are responding to
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: rage bait. Right, she said that that any lifestyle is fine.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Well then, just except that this woman is defending her
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: lifestyle against someone who said that she's basically in hell,
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: you know, just I.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Mean, why did you feel the need to make a
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: video about this in the first place. If it was,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: why did you need the feeling right to like move
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: the needle in some direction.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Well, she moves the needle into getting more subs and hits.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Really is Z drama, right, But understand understand that although
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: I think that she has some genuine beliefs in the regal.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: She does have that. She does have that libertarian like
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I'm floating up everybody else thing, which I think a
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: lot of people eat that up, because man, do people
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: love feeling smarter than other people? Yeah? Like they they
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: love it, So you're not who oh.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: No, the people I argue with on Twitter, they don't
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: like me. Oh okay, okay, because because their their opinions
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: are obvious or their their assertions are have obvious flaws
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: that can be poked at. But all right, so trying
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: to get back to Hannah Cock's here, Oh god, I
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: keep losing my train of thought again. I apologize.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: You're talking about the woman feeling like she needs to
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: defend her lifestyle because.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's being attacked and that's the end of it.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, her lifestyle wasn't being attacked, and she's she's.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Calling out I think she's calling out women who are
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: attacking mothers and saying, well, you look depressed and are
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: you look overtired? And that must be you look like
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: you're a person who's putting their personal uh self interest
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: and comfort secondary to something else. Therefore you must be
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: in hell. And it's like, and she's directly identifying that
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: people who think that, people who think that are selfish
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: because they don't understand the upper levels of Maslow's hierarchy
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: of needs. Like again, taking it away from parenthood, there
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: was a book that I read that was about I
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: guess Christian charity in particular. I think it was more
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: general charity, but it just sort of ended up on
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: Christian charity and it talked about people finding a calling
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: or a calling finding them to do something for the
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: benefit of others, and that is actualization to feel like
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: your presence on this earth is a benefit to someone
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: else besides yourself, right, and to want to feel that.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: By definition, Yeah, there's a self interest component in it,
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: and it can become toxic when you force people to
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: be helpless in order to continue to feel good about
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: saving them. But for the most part, that is a
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: selfless urge. Insofar as anything that one does on planet
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Earth could be considered selfish, that is a selfish a
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: selfless urge. It is the desire to see your life
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: to be benefit to others, right, And that's what this
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: woman is talking about. And she's saying, if you can't
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: see that putting aside your own personal comfort and your
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: own personal you know, engaging in sacrifice towards something that's
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: bigger than yourself, which is the perpetuation of the human
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: race and our society by being by raising the next generation.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: If you can't see the benefit in that, and you
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: can only see the drawback, then you are a selfish person.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: And he's not. I don't think she's saying this to
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: all single women. She's saying it to the single women
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: who can't see can't see that being a mother has
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: its own value, right, despite the sacrifice, despite putting yourself second,
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: that being a mother has value in terms of, hey,
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: I've made another life better.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: So she's one hundred percent right. But Hannah Cox is
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: taking that on as being targeted at her, and that
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: is really interesting because she says, well, why do you
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: feel so targeted by this clickbit rage that I specifically
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: said was targeted at you? And it's like, well, why
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: do you feel targeted, Hannah? She's very specific that mom
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: is being is saying this in a specific context. She's
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: talking about women who do not understand that there can
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: be fulfillment even with sacrifice.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And the funny thing is is that that clip
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: the mother and that she's very reasonable, like she's not
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: saying anything crazy, she's not angry, she's not yelling. She's
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: just saying, like, yes, motherhood is difficult. She didn't make
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: the claim that it's the most difficult job on the
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: planet or anything like that. She probably has a husband
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: who is involved and helps, but it does doesn't matter.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: It's still like it's it is work. I mean that's okay,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Like I'm sorry, Like what have women done since time immorial,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: immemorial and more? You know, since the beginning? What have
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: women done since the beginning? Had babies under far worse conditions?
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Do you think they were complaining all the time? Probably?
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Sometimes yeah, but like they got through it. It was
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: just like life. It's weird because like if you took
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: away all of our technological advances, all of our comforts,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: everything that we have built across generations, the one thing
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: that will be left that women could do. That the
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: only thing that women do that men can't do is
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: give birth, and that's the one thing that they're being
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: discouraged from doing. Isn't that weird? It's like the one
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: thing that we're discouraged. Well, people, a lot of people.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I think the Call Her Daddy podcast is likely government
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: funded and it is. It is intended to radicalize women.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: That's why zoomer women are like super like communist socialists
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: in their mindset. And well, I'll get into that a
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: little bit later, because there was something.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: We're definitely good. This is gonna be like a three
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: hour video, but okay, I think we should listen to
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: a bit more. But we can move forward to Uh, yes,
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: are we are only at six fifty?
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: I just jumped ahead to the seven to ten time.
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's listen.
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: Okay, nothing about what you just said makes you sound unselfish.
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: If you want to have kids and they bring you
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: joy and they spark light in your life and it's
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: worth all the sacrifice for you, that's great. But that
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: doesn't make you an unselfish person. In fact, it means
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: you reproduced an image of yourself because you love yourself
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: so much you wanted to give yourself that gift.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Wow, I hope does not have kids. That is insane,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Like imagine thinking that the only reason why you exist
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: is because your mother is so narcissistic that she needed
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: to reproduce so that you could have a mini you, unless,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: of course, you do have one of those moms that
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: like put you in pageants and try to like relive
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: their younger years, you know, through you. But that's that
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: is some crazy shit to say. Wow, that is I
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: do remember hearing that and going, WHOA, Hannah Cox, don't
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: have kids like you are. Probably you would probably murder
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: your children with.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Your I wonder if after saying that, Hannah Cox would
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: admit to the amount of of mothers or I even
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: want to call them mothers who murder, Yeah, murder their children,
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: not just smother but murder, rape, beat, neglect, you know,
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: to take destroy their children's relationship with their father. I mean,
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: what would would she acknowledge that or would she immediately defend.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: The because a men for that somehow may be meant
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: somebody somehow. But yeah, she she's trying to invert reality
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: or at least make the opposite case that, like women
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: having children are actually selfish and women not having children
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: are not being selfish. That's what she's trying to do.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and opinions. These are her genuine opinions. Like she said, oh,
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: every lifestyle is fine, but she's definitely going to take
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: it personal. When this woman is talking about women who
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: don't understand motherhood or the lifestyle choices around motherhood, which
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: is like a kind of charity. It's taking a sense
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: of self actualization from the development of another human being,
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: right in the positive, Like there is a very negative
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: aspect to motherhood, but in the positive, that's what that is.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: And she's she's gonna say, no, it's all selfish and actually,
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: let's just continue because you're right at the next point.
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: Damn.
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: And most of the reasons people choose to have kids,
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: they tend to be more on the selfish side of
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: the spectrum, whereas people who don't want kids oftentimes they're
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: doing it for very unselfish reasons.
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: I've covered the subject more in depth.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Oh you mean like uh net zero carbon emissions or
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: something like that. That's like they bought into the propaganda. Yeah.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: And here's the thing too, like Hannah Cock's libertarian feminists
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: is agreeing with the climate change arguments, which are totally
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: pro government, like gigantic government, like global government. This woman's
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: not a serious person.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: No, she's not. I just I just point out she said, oh,
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: all lifestyles are acceptable. But this woman saying those women
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: who cannot understand, like I'm I'm not a mother, right,
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: but I can understand what she's saying.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: No, Yeah, I mean it's it's pretty like, yeah, it's
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: pretty obvious, like and I can understand that she's.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Not directing it at women like me who are not mothers.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: No, she's simply explaining the that like being a mother
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: is not terrible. That's all she's saying.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a judgment there, No, there was some judgment
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: because she said women who don't understand how the sacrifice
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: leads to a fulfilling life, you know. But she's calling
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: out those women. She's not calling out every woman who's
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: chosen a single lifestyle. She's calling out the women who
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: have chosen or a child free lifestyle. She's calling out
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: the women who've chosen a child free lifestyle that cannot
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: understand that you can sacrifice personal comfort, you know, for
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: something that you find fulfilling, something greater than yourself, right,
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: that you feel is greater than yourself. And yeah, I mean,
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: by Hannah Cox's definition, every single thing we do as
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: human beings is selfish. But let's do a little bit
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: of a gradient. Doing something because you want to feel
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: like your presence on this or benefits other people is
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: a little bit on closer to selfless than it is
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: to selfish, even though it might be selfish at the
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: end of the day, because you get to feel really
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: good about yourself presumably, you know. But let's let's continue.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, let's continue before all length of video.
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: But it continues to amaze me the self righteousness so
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: many of these people have and just complete lack of
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: self awareness.
• 45:16
  Speaker 6: When it comes to this conversation and.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: She says something profoundly self righteous, right, she said, my
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: decision to not have children, it's the ethical decision. Your
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: decision to have children.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Sacrifice. I am making the sacrifice.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: I am making the sacrifice. Even though she said women
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: women who have children are in hell, or she signs
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: off on that they're miserable, she says, you're not making
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: the case you're not miserable. Yeah, but that's not the
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: case she was making. She's making the case that her
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: physical misery is worth the self actualization. I think that's
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: what really blows these women's minds. That there's a resource,
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: a resource beyond their physical and emotional comfort that they
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: will never access. There's a world beyond their knowing that
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: they will never touch and see, and that these women occupy,
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: these mothers or other women who have sacrificed some aspect
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: of their comfort, emotional or physical, in order to pursue
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: benefiting someone else in the world. Yep, okay, all right, And.
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: It isn't betraying you for them to generically say, hey,
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: I've noticed that most of the people I know who
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: have kids are not happy their lives, don't look like
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: how I would want mine to look.
• 46:42
  Speaker 6: It's like women who complain.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: No, just women complaining as the default state. But yeah,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: it's fine. They're generally dissatisfied with everything.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: The mother was like, yeah, I've made a choice and
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: I'm happy with it. It's it's uncomfortable some but I
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: feel the joy of raising another life, you know.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like, you know, without too much of
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: a digression, Like this Saturday night was Pasca, the Pasca celebration,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: which is like Orthodox Easter, and it starts really late,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: like eleven thirty at the night at night, and it
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: goes until like three in the morning. And Lindsay and
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: I were there and everybody that was there, and most
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: of the people who are at church are families with
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: lots of kids because those people are having kids, and
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: so you have these little, you know, little ones running around, crying, making,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: you know, yelling at each other and stuff like after
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: everything's over, because they fell asleep for most of it,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: and then they woke up at the end when the
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: food was put out because the fasting was being broken.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: So everybody's feasting and we're having all this food and
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: stuff and there's kids everywhere, and yeah, you have to
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: like keep track of them. You have to watch them.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: The moms are and the fathers are like chasing them
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: around and making sure they don't, you know, break their
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: heads on something. But they you can tell that they
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: love their children to death. And like, you know, we
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: we go on about bear moms and how or mama bears,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: you know, and how like activated they get. You should
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: see some of these dads. Like there's a guy, there's
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: a father at this he is strapped, like he has
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: a fucking gun and a ninth he works for secret
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: service or something. He works for the government. I don't
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: ask any questions, but but yeah, I mean, like they're
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: the fathers are. It's a different kind of involved. Like
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: they're constantly on the lookout right with their kids. And
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: but they love their children and and it's very rewarding
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: for them. I don't I couldn't explain it because obviously
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: I don't have kids, but I always wanted them. I
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: just can't have them now because of cancer. But you know,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: it's enviable. I mean, like I know that it wouldn't
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: be easy, but I wouldn't like I wouldn't try to
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: justify it by saying something like, oh, I'm happier because
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: of x y Z or I think that my life
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: is better because of the I don't know. I just
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: don't get that, you know, and I can see it.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: I can see that that you can be at once
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: exhausted but also absolutely like thrilled, and they are. That's
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: what I see around me every day. Lots of people
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: have kids here, so this is not weird, you know.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: And I don't know. I think that this this sentiment,
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: this anti family thing, it only comes from women like
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: men who are who are like Mick Taw, they don't
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: actually advocate against family like I don't see that from
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Better Bachelor. I don't see that from I mean, maybe
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: there are people out there that are, but I've never
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: seen it. I don't see it from men. I don't
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: see it from Micktow. I don't see it from you know, pways.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: I think that generally men are pro family, pro marriage
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: all that, even if they're red pilk. I mean, they're
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: not pro marriage because of the system, but they're pro
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: like people having kids and stuff, right, they want to
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: fix the system at least so.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: But anyway, Okay, well, I had a few things to
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: add to this. First of all, there's a context for
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: her to say this. Somebody pointed out, like there was
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: a woman on this who said, this is why you
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: don't talk to your single female friends, because they betray
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: you by airing your laundry and public. And then of
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: course Hannah Cox's pivots from saying that you know, bitch,
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: do you personally know Chappelle Rowan? I don't think so,
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: this isn't about you, and then she pivots to them
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: it isn't about betraying you for them to generically say, hey,
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: I've noticed. So on the one hand, these these mothers
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: can't call this out because it's specifically targeted at Chappelle
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: Rowan's friends. But on the other it's generic when there
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: is the creticism that this is specifically targeted at Rowan's friends.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: So which is it? Is it generic or is it specific?
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: I think it's both. I think she's specifically airing out
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: the dirty laundry of her friend in order to target
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: parents generally. So both criticisms apply, but Hannah Cox is
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: trying to make it so that neither do, because it's
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: general when these parents want to call out Rowan for
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: betraying her friend's trust and it's specific when these parents
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: want to call out Rowan for condemning all women or
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: all mothers. So I just wanted to point that out.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: It typical Hannah Cox doublethink wants it both ways.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, Roan is using an anecdote to make
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: a generalized statement about yeah, and.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: She's also very specific with it with the age of
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: their kids. I'm pretty sure that the if the friends
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: that she has no exactly who she's talking about.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: All right, let's go to there is such a thing
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: as the terrible two's I jumped ahead to.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: So okay, yeah, here we go.
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: When they see something that's hard or strenuous that is
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: equivocally going to better their lives, pursue it. It's why
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: women are getting degrees at a much higher rate than men,
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: even though that's strenuous and difficult and expensive and a long,
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: they're getting more degrees.
• 52:15
  Speaker 6: They're getting higher degrees.
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: In my own personal life, I've also noticed that it
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: tends to be women who are doing the very hard
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: and strenuous work of breaking generational curses, going to therapy,
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: working on their mental health, fixing bonds within their families.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: So the situation is not that actually, actually letter finish.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: A letter finish.
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: Women in this generation are afraid of things that are
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: hard or strenuous, or that they think life.
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: Should be lived like a child at Disneyland.
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: It's that they are only willing to put in hard
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: work and face things that are strenuous when it is
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: going to definitely improve their lives.
• 52:51
  Speaker 9: And again, okay, so first of all, how did how
• 53:00
  Speaker 9: did women get excluded from that from from women in
• 53:03
  Speaker 9: the generation or how did mothers get excluded from that.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: And then also, women only put effort in when it
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: improves their lives, when it when they get credentials or
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: it improves their income. Yeah, you're not really disproving that
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: woman's observation that if you don't understand self sacrifice in
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: order to develop or to benefit others, to see yourself
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: in the world in terms of benefiting others, that you
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: are a selfish selfish see yet, see you?
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: No, No, I thought that not having kids could be
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: is self less. Actually getting those degrees, those sweet, sweet
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: degrees and putting yourself six figures in debt for an
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: office job that's probably going to get be made obsolete
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: by AI is completely selfless. It's doing it for the planet.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: She's not even saying that it's selfless, Brian No.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: But she earlier in the video claimed that women who
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: don't have kids are doing something selfless, or at least
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: they believe they do. And now she's going back and saying, well,
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: actually they're they're doing all this stuff for themselves. And
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: again I'm brought back to thinking about, like, why are
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: more women trying to get degrees than make babies. Again,
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not making a prescription here, I'm just saying, like,
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: is what is it that's going through the minds of
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: women that they think it's a better idea to go
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: into debt, like college debt for you know, six figures
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: to get a job that may become obsolete by AI.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Because women don't want to do jobs that you know,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: will be replaced by all kinds of other machines. They
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: want to do the stuff that's easy and cushy, so
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: they get their avocado toasts and their lattes before they're
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: shift and play you know, ping pong or whatever. Like
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: they want the Google job, they want the tech job.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: They want that nice, comfortable, you know, air condition but
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: not too much job that pays really well, and they
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: want to spend all of their you know, twenties doing
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: that so they can like hang out with their friends
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: and do the sex and the city thing on weekends
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: and the you know, if a woman says, well, actually
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: I prefer to be a mother, they go ham on
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: her like that's kind of what I'm seeing, you know.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: It's like it's about well, go ahead, okay, So what we.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: Have as Rowan starts by saying that mothers look like
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: they're in hell. Mothers explain, at least the mothers who
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: understand this, explain that no, it's not hell. It is
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: self sacrifice for the feeling that you are benefiting somebody
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: else in the world besides yourself. And then Hannah says, oh, well,
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: you you make these selfish choices to become mothers, and
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: it's actually selfless for me to make the choice not
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: to do that self sacrifice for the benefit of others,
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: but to say, hey, I'm actually sacrificing for the benefit
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: of others by not having children, not doing this kind
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: of personal self sacrifice to develop another human being. I'm
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: doing it, you know, net zero this. But also, I
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: don't want to do anything in which I have to
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: sacrifice if it doesn't directly benefit my life if I
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: don't get credentialed at the end. I also want to
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: point out that she's talking about women breaking generational curses.
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: But you're not breaking a generational curse unless you're making
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: another generation.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, right, I mean you are breaking a generational
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: curse by ending a generation to do it.
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: But I mean, like, at the very least, I think
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: that what the mom's responses are is essentially trying to
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: balance out the conversation and saying, look, we hear constantly
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: all of the ways that are all the reasons why
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: young women should not, you know, pair up with men
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: and make babies. This is and Hanna Cox thinks the
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: opposite is true. She thinks that there's like all kinds
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: of pro natalist propaganda, and I think it's hilarious.
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, we can go through that, we can go through that.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: But oh what go ahead, Okay if you're yeah, let's
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: bang them out all right?
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Eleven forty Well, this is.
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: Coming on, and having kids is not definitely going to
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: improve your life. For many people, it would bring your life.
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: For others, it would be the best thing that ever
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: happened to you.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: But the difference, as that woman identified, is whether or
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: not you actually want to see yourself in terms of
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: benefiting others. It's as simple as that. That's the difference.
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: And when you look at these women and you say,
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: oh god, it's so miserable, they're like, yes, I'm sacrificing
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: my personal comfort in order to bring another life into
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: the world and raise it in a raise that life
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: in a way that it becomes productive and continues on.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: I am trying to multiply the happiness in the world
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: by raising a productive, healthy child. Right then, that requires
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: self sacrifice. But I find that personally fulfilling because I
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: want I see myself. And the other thing is, this
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: is something I occurs that I was This is I
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: think the thing that I was trying to get to.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Hannah Cox has not faced the fact she's gonna die. Yeah,
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: if she doesn't want to leave some kind of a legacy,
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: some way of touching people outside of her immediate comfort,
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: she doesn't. She hasn't actually looked death in the face
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: and realized it's common for me, Yeah it is, Hannah right.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Well, the thing is I've noticed that Hannah Cox has
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: been making a lot of like videos about like how
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: you know motherhood, Like basically kind of like fighting against
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: this so called stereotype of like women being expected to
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: be mothers. She's been fighting it pretty hard lately. And
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, are you getting into your thirties and you're
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: starting to like wonder if you made the right decision,
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: and so to sort of justify the life choices you
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: have made, your making this kind of content that's like, look, man,
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: I'm just doing the the libertarian thing, which is like
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: living the best life as a libertarian person. And I'm
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: gonna use like, you know, like I'm not going to think, oh,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: maybe I should have done something different. And I would
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: say there's another thing too, is that you know, not
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: not every woman is fit to be a mother, but
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: I think that a lot of women were a lot
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: more in previous generations and are now. And so you
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: got to ask yourself why is that? Because I would
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: I would concede, and I don't think it's hard to
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: say that probably there was a time where the majority
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: of women could have been, you know, would have been
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: better mothers or work or more fitting as mothers, more
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: ready to be mothers, more prepared to be mothers by
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: their by their own mothers or their extended family or
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: the community or whatever. I know that these things isis,
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: and it wasn't even that long ago, because I remember,
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: you know, my sister was like essentially learning of about
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: womanhood from the extended family, from my grandma, from my aunts,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: you know, and that's gone, Like I don't think that
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: that's really a thing. At least it's a lot less.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: So you have to wonder what is it that changed?
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: How did our culture change so that we have essentially
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: trained women to go against their own like you know,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: never mind, like sort of like a religiously prescribed way
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: of living. Let their biology their biological nature, you know,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: which is to have kids, Like we're encouraging them to
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: kill their children and to live single, you know, to
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: be single and party and act like men and try
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: to embody all the things that they imagine men embody
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: and enjoy, even though that's also not true because men
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: are not the simple creatures that these people make them
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: out to be. And those women find themselves miserable, like
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: they're twenty five, you know. They joke about like how
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: women in the fifties were on like valume and stuff.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: But I think more women are medicated today than ever
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: in history, Like it's worse, you know, like orders of magnitude.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: So it's like, well, what changed? What is it that
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: you think about the world that has altered your perceptions
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: so fundamentally make really boils the noodle?
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: Yes it does. I think I have my own opinions,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: but we probably should.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: All right, let's play the rest of it.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 6: Everybody make the same choices as you is very weird.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: I don't know how you can look around at the
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: world and the number of people who need substances just
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: to cope on a daily basis, or look around at
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: all of the hardships that happen to people through no
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: fault of their own. I don't know how you can
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: seriously look at all the kids who are abandoned, who
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: are abused, who grow up in broken homes, and say
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: that every single person should be having kids.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: Why is that happening though, Hannah Cox? Why? Okay? First
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: of all, the Internet has a way of affecting your
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: perception of reality because we tend to focus on the negative.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: This is why I don't trust like studies that measure happiness,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: because if you ask someone to tell you what they're
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: happy about, they usually generally don't have a lot to say,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: but if you ask someone what it is or unhappy about,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: they have a laundry list of things. Because we're generally
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: we generally measure our reality by our dissatisfaction, and I
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: think women more so because they're in a more vulnerable position,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: so they tend to operate in a you know, a
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: negative framework of everything. So but like if, but first
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: of all, that's the Internet, it does that. But the
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: other thing is, yeah, I agree, there's a lot of
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: people growing up in broken homes and the families are
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: not really like together, and there's a lot of kids
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: that are messed up and abandoned and murdered and all that.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: But like, why is that? Like has that also always
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: been true throughout history? Somehow? I don't think so. Yeah,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: I think that there was something that changed the dynamics
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: of relationships and family that I don't know if you're
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: ready to go there yet figure out for yourself. You know,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: what's funny is that we're basically like, we're in a
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: world where we're swimming in the problems that feminism made,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: and they are feminists today complaining about them as though
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: that's just always been the way things are, and they
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: won't acknowledge that it came from their own ideas. This
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: is literally the trans thing. So you guys know, in
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: the UK the Supreme Court passed the ruling that was like,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: you know, men are men and women are women now
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: and you know, and like the trans debate is over
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: and the turf's won, right, And the thing is is
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: that I'm sitting there looking and I'm like, do you
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: guys realize that it was you that created this problem
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: and now are fighting the problem you created And some
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: people like Julie Bindall are blaming it on men. But
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: so like this is the same thing. Most of this stuff,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: like with motherhood and singlehood and natalism and all that,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: it's all stuff made by feminism and now feminists are
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: talking around it like it's not made by them. And
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: it's like so when they point out, oh, look at
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: all the damage to kill children, look at all of
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: the single mother homes, look at all these problems they
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: just came from nowhere must be patriarchy. It's literally feminist
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: like legislation that did that. But anyway, yeah, I'm sorry, house,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: I know you want to move on because we had
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: a lot of con to cover.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: Yes, no, it's okay. I mean, uh well, it'll take
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: as long as it takes.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, underneath their skin.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 5: There are a lot of people who get pressured into
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: having kids, particularly women. I always think it's so odd
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 5: when I hear right wing people saying like feminism has
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: broken women's brains, Feminism convinced them not to have kids.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 6: This generation grew up.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: Being told kids like it's actually uh not. Byrony the
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: Queer Kiwi, who later on makes a statement on who's
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: being pressured to have kids. She doesn't actually come to
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: any conclusion because it's it's it's against her ideology, but
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: there's this brief moment where she recognizes there's a hell
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: of a lot of pressure on men to have kids
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: and not to consider whether or not they want to.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: But we'll talk about when we get there. So yeah,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: let's let's continue with this, and I can hear everything
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: that's happening. I'm just doing something with a light over there.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 5: All right, Okay, you don't know any women. If you
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: truly think that's what's happened, that's not what's happened at all.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: I still felt very pressure, and thankfully not by my parents,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 5: but by vastly everybody else.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 6: In my life to have kids.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: It is pushed and pushed and pushed on women, as
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 5: I said, and when you choose not to, you get
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 5: attacked to this day, so to act like the pendulum
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: swung so far over that women are no longer pressure
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: to have kids ridiculous, they act, Oh.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: So you're so people in your life were suggesting that
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: maybe or or maybe they didn't pressure you pressure, maybe
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: they just asked, you know, like, so, what are you
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: gonna have kids? I know that that happens usually it's
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: from women asking. But like, if you think about it again,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: if you look at like the culture at large, like movies, television, fiction,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: our entertainment, our popular culture, our music, it's the opposite
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: of that. It's it's all about like women's empowerment, girl bossing,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: you know, career focus. So what if the people in
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: your life are just they're aware of that, and they're
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: trying to like counter like, you know, be the counterweight
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: or at least provide the alternate view. Or maybe you've
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: been vocal about not wanting kids and they're like kind
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: of worried that you're gonna end up like unhappy, and
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: you're you only got so much time and so because
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: they care about you, they're like, maybe you should have kids.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know, or I don't know. You're just saying
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: that this is like all you deal with.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: Someone in the vertical chat says, it's Lanelle Aubrey. I
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: think it's fantastic you find it personally fulfilling. I think
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: it's horrific that just because you do, you think all
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: women should all women do and should not all women
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: make good parents people. Why do you force that person
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: to have children. Nobody's forcing anyone to have anything, but
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: Lonelle Aubrey. One day, you're going to be in bed,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: and you are going to know that that is the
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: last night of your life where it's likely that you
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: will be aware that it's one of the last nights
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: of your life. What do you think about your life
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: in that moment? What do you think about what you've
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: done with your life?
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: Think about that, Lonelle Aubrey. You're lying in bed, your
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: hands are paper thin, you can see all of the
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: veins through them. You know that breathing is becoming very difficult,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: the weight in your chest is pressing down, and you
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: realize that your life is slipping away. What do you
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: think about in those moments. Aubrey all right, yep, with that,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: let's let's do a little bit more.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: Thirteen thirty four. I think that's the end of that clip,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: so thirteen forty five. I mean, obviously it's not for everybody,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: and we're we're not prescribing.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: Her obviously.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: Kids. Yeah, I mean, I wish I could, but I can't.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: But I mean, it is what it is.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: I'll talk about people.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 5: Never actually even said that this was about mom's. Moms
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: made it about themselves. She actually said that she didn't
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 5: know any people who had kids, meaning men and women.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 6: But that's where the conversation has gone. Anyways.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: I think they're yeah, probably because men's input doesn't matter
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: when this is all about women anyway, so nobody wants
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: to hear from men anyhow. And she also because Chappelle
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: whatever her name is, Ron or whatever, the woman who
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: said the thing, she's like a queer person, activist type,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: so she probably refers to, you know, human beings, not
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: without gendering them. So she's just like they've m's right,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: So that could be true too. I mean, anyway, is
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: there anything else you wanted to say to it? Because
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: you made that a timecode or no, oh, Chappelle, moms
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: made it about themselves. That was thirteen forty five. Yeah,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: so fifteen forty seven unless you wanted to say something else.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, how okay, So again she's talking about how oh
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: it was it wasn't a generalized statement. She was just
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: talking about her friends. But elsewhere when when someone called
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: Chappelle out for talking about her friends, she said it
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: was a generalized statement. It's just more of this inconsistency.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: It's logical inconsistency.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's keep going, all right, So fifteen forty five
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: or forty seven.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 5: All people behave and with ensuring that their organizations can continue,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 5: which takes a lot of money to religious people.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: Shade that she's throwing. It's typical. Yeah, she's a religious person.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's usually.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 6: Well, let's see kids, they tend to fall on line.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 6: They tend to be more conservative.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: Hence you get more right wing people having kids than
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 5: left wing people. That isn't because the left is like
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 5: preaching an anti baby message.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 6: It's really not.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: In fact, I tend to find the less takes on
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 5: most of these kinds of issues to be more grounded
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 5: in the principles of individualism and limited government.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 6: Than the rights are these days. And lastly, of course.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: How so yeah, so that's crazy, Like okay, whatever, whatever,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: I get it. I know what Hannah Cox is doing.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: She's basically like again, floating above everybody else. But also
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: she's a feminist at the end of the day, so
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: it like libertarianism is just like a word that she
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: added on to separate herself from the crowd. Pretty sure,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: leftists are very very pro government, Like that's the one
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: thing that defines them. It's the one thing. They're status.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: That's the defining characteristic of a leftist, whether they're well
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: intentioned or not. They are statists like women are status.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: They tend to be statists because they want that, like
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: I said before, that security, that safety, that provision that
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: they would normally get from men from the state, because
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: they have bought into the idea that the state is
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: a guaranteed supporter and provider and protector whereas men are not.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: They're a big giant question mark. That's scary. And you
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: have feminism to thank for women's fear of men, right
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: because the purpose of it is to get them dependent
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: on the state. So anyway, she's out of touch.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, you have the mouth breathing man.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 5: He says feminism is something unhappy women invented to sabotage
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 5: happy women, like.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 6: Are you well?
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 5: Feminism came about because women were oppressed throughout all of
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 5: history and they finally had enough, and thanks to technology
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 5: and thanks to Western civilization, they were finally able to
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 5: organize and throw off the chains of oppression.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: Feminism second something.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: The only reason why you have anything is because men
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: gave it to you.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: Well, she she just admitted that thanks to technology, which
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: was in most part, in most cases invented by men,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: and and that's even the minimal thing. It was built
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: by men, like they did all the sacrifices. For example,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: we wouldn't have a railway without men dying. We wouldn't
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: have a shunnel tonn like a tunnel under the Thames
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: without men dying. We wouldn't have a hoover dam without
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: men dying. We wouldn't have skyscrapers without men dying. So
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: everything that made women capable of moving out into the
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: world have the price tag in terms of men's lives.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: And she's saying that that was oppression beforehand. Well, if
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: men were the ones instrumental to ending women's oppression. Maybe
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: they didn't intend to impress oppress women in the past.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: Maybe that was just a function of biology and the
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: limitations of material culture. Hannah Cox. Maybe there's nobody to blame.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: God forbid all right, Yeah, it's keep gone.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: It's an amazing that's an amazing claim to make. Women
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: have been oppressed throughout history, and they threw off the
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: shackles of oppression thanks to and names a bunch of
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: stuff that men made. Goes on and name all the
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: things basically men, like, what would you do without men? Seriously,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: you'd be screwed. Okay, but anyway, next, let's go an
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: a minute in seventeen forty six, okay to.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 5: Other people for an example, when I was single, I
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 5: could look around at happy couples, key being happy and
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 5: see that life would be better with a husband. Things
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 5: that are objectively good, that make people happy tend to
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: be sought after. And the fact that more and more
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 5: people are choosing not to go and having kids should
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 5: tell you something about the role of parenthood. And I
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 5: think that there are plenty of really important conversations we
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 5: could have about what could change or what could transpire
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: to make it.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: Let's not talked about is that men aren't complaining like
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, there some some are complaining on social media,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: but they don't.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: The only thing men are complaining about is not having
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: access to their kids, yeah, and what they're like a divorce.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but also you know complaining, yeah, that and also
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: not being able to have relationships in the first place,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: like insults. But there's not like there's no official platform
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: for these complaints. Most of these complaints and the people
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: who are making these complaints and end up on an
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: FBI watch list. I don't know if you guys have
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: noticed that kind of thing, Like the US government is like, yeah, no,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: you shouldn't if you do this, if you make complaints
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: about women, we're going to put you on a watch list.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: Whereas if women make complaints about men, they can actually
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: do it institutionally, like they can get a job in
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: an institution that's basically the complaints about men department. Right,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: they can create an entire influencer profession on complaining about
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: men about the emotional labor that they do with the
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: men in their life, which amounts to having to tell
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: them what to do, having to tell those men what
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: to do. You don't see this with men they're not
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: complaining to this level. And what I wanted to point
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: out is all of these decisions that these women are
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: making are under by men, including what she was talking
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: about with the oppression, because because of technology and the
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: Western social system is doing a lot of heavy lifting there, Hannah,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: who put those things into place for the most part,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: I mean women also raised men to have the values
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: that were expressed in the Western social system. So yes,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: if we want to recognize that women weren't oppressed and
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: society is actually a function in many cases of what
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: they value as women and those values that they instill
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: into their sons and daughters, Yeah, if we want to
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: acknowledge that, that means we have to acknowledge women weren't
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: depressed in the past. But if we want to say
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: women were oppressed in the past, we're saying that women
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: didn't have a proportionate influence over social systems, which means
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: that men, with their disproportionate influence over the Western social system,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: created the means by which women could be freed and
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: decided to free them. So either women were oppressed in
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: the past and men chose to give them the means
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: to overcome that so called oppression, so men did it
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: for them, men saved them from it, or women were
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: depressed in the past. And everything that we see in history,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: and we've seen through the nineteenth century, twenties, whatever, everything
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: through history is actually not just men but men and
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: women working together with roughly equivalent influence over the result.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: So women are oppressed and men saved them, or women
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: aren't depressed, and the women's rights are an expression of
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: men and working men and women working together. Choose one
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: because it can't be both, all right.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, got it in my channel, and don't read it
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 5: at the notification bell while you're there. Ultimately, I think
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 5: the reason that these people had the kind of reaction
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 5: that they did to this is that they simply aren't
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 5: happy that what Chapel said hit a sore spot for
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 5: them and exposed a truth that they have been trying
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 5: to conceal.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: Okay again again, hurt you again again, I'd bring you
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: back to listen to Okay. So there's plenty of this
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: is this is Hannah Cox, this is Hanne Cox. But nevertheless,
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: it seems as though the targets for this outrage clickbait
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: were hit and boy did they respond. So moms were targeted,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: and they responded to being targeted, and they explained what
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: they get out of their lives, and they explained that
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: the people who are targeting them for abuse are probably
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: selfish and don't understand the idea of sacrifice in order
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: to feel like you're building a future, something that will
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: exist beyond your death, which will come for you, Hannah Cox,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: no matter how much slip filler in botox you checked
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: into your face.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so here's a okay before I play this next clip.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: This post here again contradicts her statement or claim that
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: you know, she's constantly women are constantly bombarded, but to
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: have babies and not the opposite. But then it says
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: here there are too many I regret my kids articles, forums,
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: post TikTok's YouTube, vis et cetera for anyone to get
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: defensive about this. Of course, plenty of parents are genuinely
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: unhappy with their decisions. So, like, what's being pushed out here?
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't are you guys aware how much
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: of this could be like like straight up propaganda coming
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: out of China? I know that that China makes videos
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: like there was one a lot of like anti marriage
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: videos where a woman puts a ring on and she
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: starts to and then like she has this flash of
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: images of her like cooking and cleaning and slaving away
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: while pregnant, and then like gives the ring back. I mean,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: guys saw that videos. It's from a couple of year
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: years ago. It turned out that that came out of
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: like China. And when they eat that stuff up, it's
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: like they want people to tell them this, Like they
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: want an excuse to be selfish, and for whatever reason,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: like the internet tells them that so and again, people
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: are more likely to complain than anything else. I don't know,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: it's just crazy because Hannah Cox is claiming the opposite
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: is true.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 5: Only I'm happy with their decision. And this is one
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 5: reason that I've always been very outspoken about not wanting kids,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 5: because I feel like I have a very strong mind.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 5: I've always had a good support system, and I felt
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 5: brave enough to go out on a limb and now
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 5: in hopes that it would help.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: She's got a strong mind else, and she's a strong
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: I think'strong.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: She's a strong woman.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, I know, very strong.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm just going to double check to make
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: sure that this is the final time code.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: This is the last time code.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, okay, let her let her play it out.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: Let her play it out. There's only a couple more
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: sentence this time.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, other women, or show them that there are alternative pathways.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 6: You can pick.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: But I think, okay, that's the extent of that clip.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: All right, So let me let me give a summation
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: of this situation and Hannah Cox's response to it. So, uh,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: this individual what is her name again? Chappelle Rowan, Chapelle, Yes,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: Chappelle Rone, God, I hate it when they do weird spellings.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: Chappelle Ron. Oh, I'm sorry, I've been fiddling with the
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: lights because I got a freaking migraine coming back. Chappelle
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: Ron essentially says she puts she puts mothers on blasts.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: I don't understand why you do that, what you do
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: or whatever. You look like you're in hell. You look
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 3: like you're utterly miserable, you know whatever? Right, Hannah Cox
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: recognizes what does she say again? But nevertheless, it seems
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 3: as though the targets for this outrage clickbait were hit.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 3: So this is intended to be outrageous, right, this is
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: intended to be abusive. It's intended to cause discomfort in
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: its target audience. The target audience responds. The clip that
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 3: Hannah ro Cox chooses is a woman who basically says,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: I am a mother. I make these personal sacrifices because
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 3: I get a sense of personal fulfillment for you know,
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: seeing the development of another life, for seeing myself in
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: terms of benefiting another entity or another creature. And people
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: who don't understand that are selfish. Hannah Cox takes that
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: all on and says, you're saying that all single women
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: are selfish. And even though I've said that every lifestyle
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: is fine, I am now going to go on a
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: twenty minute screed that is going to describe moms as
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: being selfish, as myself as being selfless because I am
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: preventing the destruction of the earth by not having a child,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: even though I parently think that having a child is misery.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: So I am sacrificing my misery for the mother Earth.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: Give me accolades. Right, She's going to call mothers weak minded.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: She's going to talk about all of this pressure that
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: she's resisted. Guys, She's resisted this tremendous pressure in her
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: life to have children. And incidentally, she said it didn't
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: come from her parents, So where the hell did it
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: come from? Did it come from her partner? I think
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: that we would hear more about it if we did.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: Did it come from her friends? I don't think it
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: came from like are you going to have children? That's
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: not pressure, right, So where is this pressure really coming from?
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: I think it's coming from her own self conscious conflict.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: And women do this all the time. From what I say,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: something internal is conflicting inside them and they projected on
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: the external. But she's going to reframe this as no, oh,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: I'm just got I've got a stronger mind than mothers.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: Mothers are just weak willed and I gave I didn't
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: and they're also religiously brainwashed. Right, So she's gonna go through,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 3: step by step by step how she is superior to
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: mothers in response to a mother simply saying anyone who
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: doesn't understand this is a selfish person, which is one
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: hundred percent right. She wasn't saying every single woman or
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: every woman without children is selfish. She's saying those who
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: do not understand self sacrifice in order to benefit another
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: entity that is not you, it can be a source
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: of fulfillment are terminally selfish, right, And that's fine if
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: you want to be that way. But obviously Hannah Cox
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: doesn't like it, because this is an entire screed against that.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: Did I sum this up properly?
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: And also there's some typical Wanna Cox's self contradiction. Apparently
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: Chappelle Rone wash was specifically targeting her friend when she's
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: defending against these mothers, saying that Chappelle Ron were targeting
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: all mothers but not specifically targeting her friend when she's
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: defending against Chappelle Ron actually betraying her friend by throwing
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: her public laundry into the into the spotlight.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: So we got some nice contradictions in there, the typical
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: that the patent died Hannah Cox, I don't know my
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: own mind contradictions, you know. And also the complete lack
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: of understanding that, yeah, you're gonna die. How do you
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: deal with that?
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 10: Uh?
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: These women recognize that, and maybe they are producing the
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: next generation, you know, and that's not a bad thing,
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: because we you, Hannah Cox, you're gonna need somebody to
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: clean the sewers when you're pooping and diapers, you know.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: Like.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: But the other thing is I did want to speak
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: to what you said about about pets. You know, I
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: understand what this woman is talking about.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: Maybe I didn't understand it, like I don't know five
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: years ago, but I understand it. And I know that
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: having a puppy isn't the same as a kid. But
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: when I had my puppen, when we got our Scipio,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: who's like a full grown German shepherd. Now, he was
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: a very small little puppy, and like all puppies, he
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: took a dump everywhere, right, and so four or five
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: times a day I would be picking up shit and
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: depositing it into the toilet and flushing it right because
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: he couldn't help himself, or or cleaning up pee. But
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 3: what was interesting to me, and this is something that
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: really surprised me, because I was worried about getting a puppy.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh God, it's going to be such
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 3: a pain in the ass. You know, all the crap
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: you're gonna have to do to take care of it.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: It's going to just be like it's gonna sue in
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: your life. What astounded me is after you bond with
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: this little life and puppies, I've read actually give off
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: some of the similar fearomones is like babies, It isn't.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: You don't feel resentment. Yeah, you're exhausted and it's disgusting,
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: and it's it's an imposition on your personal you know,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: hygiene and comfort. But you don't feel resentment because you
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: know you're taking care of something that relies on you,
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: and there's an amazing feeling in that. You know, there's
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 3: there's there is a satisfaction that. Yeah. I don't think
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 3: Canna Cox knows. And I think that if any of
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: those women who were calling out those mothers for looking
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: exhausted and miserable actually had that experience. And it's not
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: even with the kid, it's with the puppy, right, If
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: you had that experience, you'd understand it. So she's absolutely right.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: You know, when you have that experience of taking some
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: care of something that's wholly reliant on you, you know,
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: is absolutely vulnerable to you, often you don't feel resentment
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: in taking care of it. It almost feels like it
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: just it was really weird. It felt like it wasn't
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: at all an imposition. I don't know how to describe it.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's right. You're seeing those videos and they're all
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: over the Internet. Lindsay loves these videos. They're like, you know,
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: a man usually it's a man. A man finds like
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: a stray animal in dire need and rescues them and
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: then and then takes it to a vet or they
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: go somewhere and they nurse it all the way back
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: to health and they show you the process, like there
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: was when we watched yesterday of a coyote that was
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: caught in a trap and this guy gets the coyote
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: out and you know, it's got an injured knee or
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: a leg or whatever, and he takes it to the
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: vet and they you know, they show the whole process
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: of him healing it and then he takes it home
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: and he trains it and you know, takes care of
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: it and feeds it, and they show you all of that.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: And he's obviously got other animals, so it's they show
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: you know, clips of the coyote playing with his dog
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: and stuff, and then it's like fully grown and like
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: lives with him, and that's you know, so like, yeah,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: all of that was a lot of work. All of
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: that was a lot of you know, probably late days,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: and all of it was it wasn't like his job,
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: like I guess he happened to, like you know, decide
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: to record it, like make a record of it on video.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: But it's not like he was doing it for money.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: It's not like a career he's chasing. It was just
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: like I want to help this and it could be
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: anything that there's there are videos of, like you know,
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: there was a video of a shark that that ended
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: up on a beach and this group of dudes they
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: all put the shark back out in the ocean. It
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: was like a great white or a nurse shark or something,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: and they basically all work together to put it back
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: out there. And you know, you could say that those
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: are just those are just men w's, but they are
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: they are doing something they don't have to do because
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: they think it's the right thing and there's a sense
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: of fulfillment in doing it. And I think raising a
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: child is the highest of those things.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: Yes, right, so you know, yeah, it's like it's like
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: raising a working line German shepherd was an incredibly intensive
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 3: experience and you have to challenge a lot of the
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 3: just the indulgences you have. I know, it sounds really weird,
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 3: and I'm not comparing it to having a kid. But
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 3: you know, you have to you have to learn to
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: to be emotionally stable, you know, you have to you
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: have to learn to put there. You have to learn
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: to make space for their needs and do it every day,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: you know. And and one of the things is that,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 3: you know, sort of tragic is that you know, I'm
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: gonna have to say goodbye to him, and that really
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: bugs me.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: You know. And uh, and that's he's gonna He's already
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: nine years old. And yeah, it's inevitable, I mean a lot,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: so yeah.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: And and the thing is, the one thing I really
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: really envy mothers and fathers is that for the most part,
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: they don't have to say goodbye to their kids. You know,
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 3: they get to go through this process and know what
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: they're creating goes on and lives on beyond them, you know.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: And I don't think that these women have ever even
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 3: thought in those terms, have ever even considered the world
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 3: in those terms. What we're looking at is a generation
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: of women who have never come to terms of the
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: fact that they're gonna die, nor do they even think
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: like they are so up their own asses about rejecting
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 3: And often I find that being a lesbian is less
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 3: about loving women and more about rejecting men. They're so
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: up their ass about rejecting men and rejecting family and
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: rejecting blah blah blah that they don't even think about
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: how hard it is to say goodbye to something. All right,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 3: let's all right, let's.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: Move on a Manifestell. Okay, So, same same video, different take,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: so well, not really, not really, but different person.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 4: I guess she's okay, it's this one.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 7: All of my friends who have kids are in hell.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 6: I don't know anyone.
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  Speaker 3: I actually don't know anyone.
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  Speaker 7: Who's like happy and has children at this age. I
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 7: have like like a one year old, like three year old,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 7: four and under five and under.
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  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 7: I literally have not met anyone who's happy, anyone who
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 7: has like light in their eyes, anyone who has who
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 7: has slept.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: So we're watching this, Okay, let's see Manifestell's response. Oh
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: good lord.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: Right, So Manifestell, let me go to seven oh two.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: This was the Chappelle Roan clip where she U basically
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: this is the one everybody's reacting to. And I noticed
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: that it was going out on like shorts, and that's
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: how I came across it. But I didn't think it
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: was going to create this much of a stink. I
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: knew what it was. I knew it was like anti
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: natalist propaganda, because again, consider who is the audience for
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: Call Her Daddy?
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 4: What?
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: Why did they take a twenty second clip from a
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: one hour plus podcast and then make that into a
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: short and then put that out on the internet boosted
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: by YouTube's algorithm, Like, why would you do that? It's
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: the thing to think about with.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 4: Chapel as a pregnant woman.
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: Raise your hand if I'm sorry. If so, MANIFESTL records
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: at a much lower volume than everybody else, so she's
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: gonna be hard to hear compared to the Do you
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: want to just turn it up a bit? I can't.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: It's maxed out here. I mean, oh, okay, I could
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: turn it up on the website like in OBS, but
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's going to be that much
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: Here we go.
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  Speaker 11: You agree alone, and you're tired of the mothers telling
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 11: childless women what to think and to just not think
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 11: about it and have a kid, because it's the best
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 11: decision to overmake. They are the reason why women are
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 11: not getting the help and support that they need.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: Obviously, men, Yeah, Obviously men are blame. Oh, women are
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: not having kids because they're not getting the support that
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: they need. So ultimately, actually, you got.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: The causality reverse She's saying that women, uh, mothers telling
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: childless women to have children. It's the best decision they'll make.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: They're the reason why women are not getting the help
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: and support that they need. Obviously men are to blame.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but women will not have children if they aren't
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: getting the support that they need.
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: And she's saying, no, you've got it reversed. She's saying
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: they're having children and not getting the support that they need.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 12: So's the mothers, they're saying, the women having children, but
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 12: also men, but obviously men, yes, yeah, men, women are mothers.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 3: Are the ones that are pushing these childless women into
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: shark infested waters. But of course men are the sharks.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, ok, yeah, but it's because women are not getting
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: the support they need like that, like like that's okay,
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: but anyway, give.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 11: Me sorry on that of course. But it is also
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 11: women that once again are telling these childless women, especially
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 11: ones that are on the fence about it. It's totally fine.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 11: And this is coming from someone that is pregnant by
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 11: the way super damaging, and let's not it's twenty twenty five.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 11: Everyone's different. Let's stop shaming women.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: Nobody's shaming them. Like, look, once again, I have to
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 3: go back to the fact that this was a childless,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: childless woman, child free women whatever, who was saying that
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: her female friends were miserable. And then the moms clapped
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: back with you don't understand. Yeah, maybe we're tired, maybe
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: we are sacrificing our comfort, but we're doing so because
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 3: we get something from it, right, you don't understand Like
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: I said about taking care of my puppy, you know,
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: it wasn't Yeah, I was tired, it was uncomfortable, it's
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: not fun, but it wasn't actually that bad. And what
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: I got out of it was to see a little
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: creature grow and become you know, a very a very
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 3: good dog.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: Well, anything that you care about, yeah, you have to
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: do stuff for Like I was just thinking, like, you know,
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: do you have plants in your home? Do you have
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: to water them and give them sunlight and prune them?
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: Do you have a garden do you like, do you
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: paint the walls in your apartment? Well, obviously not. These
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: women's apartments are all just white. They probably just left
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: whatever the you know, the the super cheap paint that
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: the building puts up, and they just left it. Because
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: if you wanted to like make it a home, you'd
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: actually have to like do some work, like like to
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: decorate and paint and keep it up. Like do you
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: do not wash your clothes? Do you not take out
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: your trash?
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: These are all things that we do even before we consider,
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: you know, taking care of something that's alive, whether that's
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: an aquarium or plant life, or pets, or children or
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: a mate. I mean, obviously manifestelas want to do any
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: of those things, because that's been all of her content
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: is what is that men are labor and men are risks.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: So this obviously could extend to children, especially little boys.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: Those are like little miniature labor and risk generators. You know.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 3: By saying that men are labor, men are risk, she
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 3: did not denies the necessity of putting anything, any effort
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 3: on her part into any relationship. So if a man
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 3: comes into her life, not only should he benefit well,
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 3: his companionship is irrelevant. When a man comes into her life,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 3: he should essentially just you know, walk into her life,
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 3: start breathing for her. Start shitting for her, start eating
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 3: for her, start moving for her, start thinking for her,
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 3: start doing every single start stellium metabolizing for her. You know,
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: like he should be functioning. He should be doing the
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: ATP path way for her. You know, everything, every every
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 3: aspect of her existence should be done for her by
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 3: a man. He should function as her complete life support system.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 3: And if she has to do anything for herself in
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 3: the presence of a man, anything, then that's his failure.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 4: Okay, our next time code, what fathers can be held
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 4: more accountable for their role as fathers and husbands in
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 4: the family. Because here's my hot take. Like, the reason
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 4: why the dating stage and even early merrors stage is
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 4: so so important is this notion that it doesn't get better. Okay,
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 4: it cannot get better from that Like usually although relationships
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 4: do get better over time because then you get to
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 4: know each other better and blah blah blah. But like
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 4: in a sense, like if your partner isn't stepping up now,
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 4: they are not going to step up more.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 3: You know, sometimes when I listened to her YAP, I
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 3: get the impression of like a a blind person who
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 3: has never left their house trying to describe an African safari.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 3: You never watched any like and can't watch like you
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 3: just you're just describing something that you have no knowledge of.
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: So yeah, for sure, like you're you're talking, what do
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: you mean? Fathers can be held more accountable for their
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: roles as fathers, like women are not even letting fathers
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: be fathers.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: But also men do four hours more according to the
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 3: Pew research in a week. Sure, the men are pulling
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 3: more than their weight already. How much more do you
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 3: want from them?
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 4: Like that?
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 3: The problem is that in restructuring society so that women
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 3: could work, it ended up increasing men and women's workload.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 3: While men's workload by like ten hours and women's workload
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 3: by eight or something.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're taking home less money and they're.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 3: Taking and you're taking home less money. And you asked
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 3: for this, You asked for this complete restructuring. So that
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 3: which is really funny because in the nineteenth century women
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 3: went from a seventy five percent workforce participation to ten
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 3: percent and they were lauding it in their diaries, like
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 3: women wanted that, and then we reversed that, and now
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 3: you're all complaining about it because you added eight hours
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 3: a week onto your workload. But that wasn't because of men.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 3: They added ten in order to pay for this right,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 3: and it ended up that they do even more work
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 3: than you. They always did more work than you. In
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 3: the fifties, men did more work than women. In the nineties,
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 3: men did more work than women. Now men do more
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 3: work than women. But because you wanted work outside the home,
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: had to You ended up having to work eight hours
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 3: more than your grandmothers did. And now you're complaining about it. Well, sorry,
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 3: but you asked for it. And now you're saying, well,
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: men should pick up even more slack. Why do we
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 3: have to do eight hours more because of wanting to
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 3: go work outside the home because you did, and men
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 3: can't take any more. Men can't absorb any more of
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 3: your requests and demands. And the most absurd now is
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: now men have were responsible for your emotional labor, telling
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 3: men what to do, like stop, yep, okay, all.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: Right, next clip, there's only a couple in this one,
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: I think, so it's like two more.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 4: But here we go, where's the girl with the list conversation?
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 4: Because motherhood and pregnancy does change women's lives, and sometimes
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 4: for the worst. There's a lot of health issues involved.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 4: There's a rise in DV probability. Did you know that
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 4: the leading cause of an alignment for women?
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, let me address this is incorrect. First of all,
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 3: you can see from her headline. New national study finds
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: homicide and suicide is the number one maternal cause of
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 3: maternal death in the US. All right, I'm going to
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 3: address that right now. Because I went through the article,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 3: I can give this to you, Brian. It's actually in
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 3: my document that I gave you. But that might be inconvenient, is.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: It like the link? Oh yeah, I got it right here,
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: sffm org dot whatever. Let me just copy and paste
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: it into in here and we'll put it up on
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: the screen. So give me a second. Okay, here we go.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: All right, New national study finds homicide and suicide is
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: the number one cause of maternal death in the US.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going to break down the numbers so you
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 3: can find this. We don't have to give you a link,
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 3: just look up the headline. Guys, you're not completely helpless here,
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 3: all right. So I went and crunched the numbers they found.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 3: Let me see here. I gotta get it myself, Gotta
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 3: get it up myself so I can read it. They
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 3: found that two two hundred and ninety three women died
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 3: of homicide over an eighteen year period when they were pregnant,
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 3: and that includes that's a year, so it starts from conception,
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 3: it goes to about forty two days after birth. And
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 3: so two two hundred and ninety three women died in
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 3: an eighteen year period, sixty one percent of those were
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 3: due to homicide and thirty nine percent where the red
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 3: isulted death by suicide. Okay, so that's just laying out
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 3: what they found. The way that they're presenting this information
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 3: very dishonest because they are drawing a distinction between violent
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 3: deaths by homicide and suicide with medical and probably accidental
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: deaths that are nonviolent that there's no intent to harm
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 3: in any event. They shouldn't when what they've done is
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 3: they've compared homicide and suicide lumped together to all other,
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 3: like to medical causes, but medical causes divided by like,
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know, heart attacks from bosis, bleeding, that kind
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 3: of thing, So they divide all of the medical causes
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 3: down to specific medical causes, and presumably accidents is also
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 3: an element what they should have done is compared violent
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 3: causes to nonviolent causes. That would be the honest because
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 3: that's the dividing line that's meaningful. So if you're going
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 3: to divide all of the causes of death pregnant women
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 3: in a medical sense into eat all these little individual things,
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 3: that's dishonest and then find, oh, suicide and homicide is no.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 3: What you're actually finding is that any form of violent
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 3: death of pregnant women is a minority. It's eleven percent
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 3: of the total of deaths enduring pregnancy. Now homicide is
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 3: an even smaller amount of that. That's like maybe six
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 3: percent or six and a half percent is due to homicide.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 3: But then not all homicides are intimate partner violence homicides.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 3: That's thirty four percent of all homicides generally of women.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 3: So now you're down to seven hundred and eighty. And incidentally,
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 3: that seven hundred and eighty isn't all boyfriends and husbands,
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 3: it's also family members. So pregnant women killed by their mothers,
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 3: pregnant women killed by their sisters, pregnant women killed by
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 3: their female friends, pregnant women feelkilled by their female cousins,
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 3: pregnant women killed by their lesbian partners, pregnant women killed
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 3: by their daughters, right, so other family members right, And
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 3: that seven hundred and eighty deaths do to family violence,
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 3: not just intimate partner violence, but family violence over eighteen
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 3: years comes out to forty three deaths and forty three
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 3: deaths a year.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 4: This is.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 3: A meaninglessly small number when you consider that in that time,
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 3: I believe the US population went from three hundred and
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 3: twenty five million to something like four hundred and fifty million.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 3: Do you realize how small a number forty three deaths
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 3: a year is in a population that size. I haven't.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 3: I haven't run the numbers specifically, I have to. Actually,
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 3: I think it's like point zero zero zero zero one percent,
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 3: if that right. It's it's such a minuscule issue. And
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 3: to give you a bit of perspective on how minuscule
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 3: this issue is, that they're presented, that manifestel is presenting
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 3: it's like, oh, pregnant women, they could be murdered by
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 3: their husband. How minuscule. This is based on a longitudinal
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 3: study from I think in Toronto, like a Neonata ward
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 3: in Toronto, and that the findings on how many boys
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 3: died of circumcision. There is likely a hundred boys dying
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 3: of circumcision in the US every year, right, because it's
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 3: it's it's an estimate based on the findings from ANITOO,
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 3: a neonatal award in Toronto. But you can assume some
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 3: things like uh neonatal care is probably not significantly better
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 3: in the US. It's probably comparable between the US and Canada.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 3: So yeah, one hundred boys a year based on the
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 3: prevalence of circumcision are likely dying from it. But they
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 3: don't keep those stats, so we don't know for sure.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 3: But compare those two. This is a tiny, insignificant problem.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell that in significant. The only reason why
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 3: you'd bring it up except as a rarity, is for
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 3: a political reason, and that political reason is to further
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 3: damage the relationship between men and women. All right, getting
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 3: off my set soapbox. But this is like completely dishonest
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 3: on so many levels.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: I believe it.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 3: Okay, so let's get to the next Actually, before we continue,
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 3: I did also work with somebody in the patron patron
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 3: our patron discord. If you want to join us in
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 3: our patron discord, it's Badgination dot online. All of the
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 3: resources that I talk about are available there. Go there
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 3: to get them. Please don't ask for me to give
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 3: them to you and other because it's a lot of
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 3: having to dole out stuff. And also YouTube doesn't like links,
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 3: so badgination dot online and you can discuss these resources
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 3: with us, you can enjoy them when if they're behind paywalls,
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 3: you know, stuff like that. I probably shouldn't say that,
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 3: but anyways, the other thing that I wanted to mention
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 3: is she talks about the increase in domestic violence. Okay,
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 3: this is another thing that's presented dishonestly. The study which
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 3: was a terrible study by the way, or not a
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 3: terrible study. It's findings were not really strong enough, but
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 3: of course they always present them as super let that
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 3: get you, that get in the way of a good
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 3: way of of of demonizing men.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 3: So what they found is that of the women who
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 3: report domestic violence, so of female victims of domestic violence,
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 3: it was more likely that that domestic violence would occur
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 3: during their pregnancy. And they had a whole bunch of
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 3: possible causes for it based on men. But there's one
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 3: really big possible cause, and I'm going to go to
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 3: hell for this. No, No, I mean, I don't think
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 3: I'll go to hell because it's the truth. Uh. And
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 3: Deborah Powney, who was a researcher DV research that used
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 3: to come on our show, she just got busy, but
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 3: she found that the one of the single biggest predictor
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 3: causal predictor of a woman's experience of violence is being violent.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 3: So it's entirely probable that if this this result is true,
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 3: what's happening is that pregnant women are being violent and
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 3: that is a predictor of them receiving violence. So, but
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 3: also the study is sort of it's weak. Its results
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 3: are weak, and there is results are only specific to
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 3: the population of abused women period. So it's not a
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 3: situation where you get pregnant as a woman and then
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 3: out of a blue a fist is coming towards you.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: No, you are.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 3: It's getting pregnant in the context of a relationship that's
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 3: already violent. All right, So can increase the violence? What
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 3: a surprise, you know, I increate a very stressful change
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 3: in circumstance has the potential of increasing uh, making a
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 3: already violent relationship more violent. But that's a that's a
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 3: far cry from what how this result is presented, especially
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 3: by people like manifestel all.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: Right, all right, next manifestell clip.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 3: I just wanted to clarify those things.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: That's all.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 4: I have to have children to do that, to participate
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 4: in that. But you can also just bare minimum stop
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 4: hating children, stop hating mothers, and stop participating in this
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 4: culture that just normalizes the hatred of children. While it
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 4: is very important to highlight the negative aspects of motherhood,
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 4: as Chapel Roone did in the counter arguments to Chapel Roone,
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 4: statements by mothers who love their experience of motherhood and
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 4: saying that chapel Roone was wrong, I think we can
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 4: all exist in this great area.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 3: That she's really trying not to criticize.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 4: As a radical active hope.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 3: This is what's so hilarious about that.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: I know she doesn't commit to anything because there are
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: mothers that watch her, and there are single ladies that
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: watch her. So it's like how do I how do
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: I walk this walk? This is by the way, Alison,
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: you said to me, like these videos are all very
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 1: long because they waffle a lot, but what they're doing
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: is they're using rhetoric. It's like a ritual spell. It
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: takes like ten times the normal casting time, so they
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: have to take forty minutes to say something that takes
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: four minutes because they need, by the end for women
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: to believe that ultimately she's on their side, regardless of
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: their life choices, because ultimately it's about preserving the sisterhood
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: and pointing the guns at men because that's always easy.
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: That's why she can be like, yeah, you know, we
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: got to stop hating on mothers and children because we
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: live in a society they hate children and mothers. But
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: she wants to say it's men, but she can't say
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: it because it is women. So instead she just says society.
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: That's why when women say society, they mean women. When
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: women say men, they mean men.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 3: Yes, you can't. She's got a waffle, which is freaking
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 3: hilarious because this is what I've seen a lot of
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 3: in my life. It's women trying to consume each other's autonomy,
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 3: that they they're trying to control and force them to
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 3: do things and that, and that's the perception here. I
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 3: don't I don't necessarily, I don't think the mother that
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 3: Hannah Cox was covering was really trying to force anything
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 3: on anyone. I think that was misperception. Although I agree
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 3: there are women who try to force motherhood on other
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 3: women and they're not you know, like, yeah, they're bad,
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 3: but I'm I'm happy to call them out. Don't do that.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 3: I'm happy to call out mothers who are who are abusive.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 3: I'm and I'm happy to call out women who use
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 3: these narratives of male blame. And and again they they
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 3: blame men. You know, Notice it's they're so uncomfortable. It's
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 3: like he he they ment, I mean men, they aren't
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 3: even involved. But god, what would happen if the sister
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 3: had turned against me? Fucking cowards? Yeah, I know what
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 3: happens when the sister had turns against me. But you know,
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 3: I survived. And the woman who turned the sisterhood against me,
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 3: where the hell is she?
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: All right, Uh, that's it for Manifestel. So let's get
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: to Briaranny Claire.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 3: Guys. Yeah, that's fine. Ten year anniversary of being kicked
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 3: out of the Calgary Expo. Oh yeah, it was actually yesterday,
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 3: but no it Yeah, ten year anniversary of a bunch
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 3: of mean girls deciding to kick me out of And
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 3: it's bigger than just an expo. It was like a
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 3: marketplace for for independent artists in Western Canada. They got
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 3: me kicked out, you know, they sort of put a
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 3: they put a big ki, a big impediment to that
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 3: part of my career. But then I decided to just
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 3: go after their ass. So there you go, and they're bullshit,
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 3: but yeah, I got kicked out for simply going up
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 3: on a a panel for women into comics and I
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 3: was a woman who was trying to create a comic.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 3: And when they mentioned men's rights activists, I said, hey,
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 3: I can speak to that because it's relevant to my interests,
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 3: and they said go ahead, and I said, I think
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 3: that I don't like feminism or I hate feminism because
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 3: it excludes men from the picture of being victims. And
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 3: then the next day, out on my ass. Yeah, the
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 3: Sisterhood actually attempted to destroy me, but I only got stronger.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: All right, yep, all right, So Brian ren Eclair, first,
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: I think I have it set to the first time
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: code pause.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 13: It is genuinely such a blip, and yet it has
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 13: caused this huge, outright what visceral reactions like this.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 3: Is hell your child coming up to you and saying
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 3: love you, mom.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 4: Is hell?
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 3: The sound of little children whispering in the morning in
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 3: their bed because they know they're not supposed to get
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 3: up yet, but they're awake. Is that what a hell
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 3: sounds like? I'm so confused.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 6: Is hell your child asking for help?
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 3: That's not hell?
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 6: Okay, so hi, if you've never seen one. Here she
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 6: is a young mom of three children that didn't get
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 6: any sleep last night. That's happy life in her eyes,
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 6: enjoyed her heart.
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 13: Huh she never dumped on mother's once.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 3: In fact, she was saying yes she did. And Hannah
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 3: Cox admit me. Yeah, Hannah Cox admitted that these women targeted.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 3: Oh wait, wait wait, no, no shit, No, I'm just
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 3: talking to rich Beer.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: What did he ask you to respond to something specific
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: but failed to give you a time code that go
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: through the whole thing, only to show up later and
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: say you didn't pick the correct time code.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 3: No, that's Dutch.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm just guessing. Okay.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 3: Richard is usually very copathetic about these things. It's just
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 3: that he finds the most cancerous of like, I don't know,
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 3: like he like goes he goes under the the the
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 3: human collective unconscious. He goes to like the basement of
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 3: the human mind, the collective human mind. And he goes
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 3: to like the fridge that has been used by a
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 3: frat for the last fifty years, and he moves the
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 3: fridge and he scrapes the brown gunk that he finds
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 3: under that fridge, and then he hands it over to
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 3: us and says, hey, you can respond to this, and
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 3: so we do, but not always like God, everything that
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 3: he does that he offers. But anyway, but actually he
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 3: asked me if he asked me some other stuff, and
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 3: I had to respond.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: But okay, I see, yeah, okay, So uh, Brianny Claire,
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: Uh oh, she didn't finish this thing about she didn't
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: shit on women once. Uh talking about Loan Roon or
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 1: whatever the hell her name is. Fucking what's the name
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: of this bitch that they're responding to. I don't even
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: remember Chappelle Rone. Yeah, she basically said again. We're looking
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: at a viral snippet made into a YouTube short that's
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: about twenty seconds long, taken from a one hour plus
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: podcast on Call Her Daddy, which is the most popular
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: podcast in the world for women, and it is aimed
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: at women, and it stars and features women, and it
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: is about women's interest because it's popular with women, and
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: so she had a woman on and that women said
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: that women with children are miserable, at least the women
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 1: that she knows are miserable and it's the worst thing ever,
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: and then also went on to like, you know, concerntrol
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: about being able to marry a lesbian or whatever. But
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: there's a reason why that content is circulating. And some
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: women who are mothers were they disagreed with with the sentiment,
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: and they wanted to express their disagreement. And people like
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: Brian and Ninclaire, Hannah Cox and Manifestel and Rainbow Schite
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 1: all had opinions on the women's opinions, which is, you're
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: not allowed to have an opinion because you have the
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 1: wrong opinion. Also, let's preserve the sisterhood somehow.
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 3: So yeah, well yeah, Also I think that there's there
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 3: may be a deeper ex distential crisis here that I'll
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 3: go over, because the sisterhood is about extorting stuff from
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 3: men because of women's like negative emotions. So they like
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 3: to take Manifestel as an example. Women should not have
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 3: to provide anything for themselves, They should not have to
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 3: breathe for themselves, shit for themselves, eat from themselves, or
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 3: do anything for themselves, and they should always exist in
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 3: a perfect state of emotional happiness. So there's this idea
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 3: of the perfect ideal. I don't women who just ah,
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 3: her entire life is just ah, and that men should
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 3: serve women to get to that end where the woman
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 3: lives in the state of pure ah. You know, that
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 3: kind of thing. But then they have these women who
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 3: are taking joy from self sacrifice, which is directly in
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 3: contradiction with their framing of women needing to have no
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 3: no actual like, no effort, no effort in their life,
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 3: no sacrific vice, no attempt at developing merit in relation,
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 3: because if you want to be a mother, a good mother,
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 3: then you have to become what your kid needs to
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 3: grow into a healthy, happy adult, right, so you have
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 3: an external metric the development of your child. And they
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 3: deny that women should not have external metrics because they
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 3: are the metric. See what I'm saying, yea, So not
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 3: only are the mothers the mothers are presenting. It's not
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 3: just that they're saying motherhood is fulfilling. They're saying living, sacrificing,
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 3: seeing yourself in terms of sacrificing for an external standard
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 3: for another being is satisfying. It is an emotional resource
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 3: that these women will never have access to, and it
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 3: also directly conflicts with these women's framing that women any
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 3: kind of negative experience is oppression of women and men
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 3: us destroy it. So if women take take a positive
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 3: sense of self, they take some kind of internal emotional
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 3: resource from striving from living up to an external standard,
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 3: from losing sleep, from having to change diapers or anything
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 3: else that's difficult or unhygienic or disgusting or anything. If
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 3: they take a sense of self from living up to
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 3: an external standard, that is in direct contradiction with their
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 3: framing that any sacrifice by women is wrong and men
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 3: have to prevent it. See what I'm saying, It's like
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 3: a it's like a clash of identities.
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I don't know, but I want to finish
• 2:02:41
  Speaker 1: Priory Claire's chat or her sound clip. Huh.
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 13: She never dumped on mothers once. In fact, she was
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 13: saying how much she appreciates her friends who are parents
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 13: because they still show up for her even though they
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 13: have to go through so many more extra hurdles to
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 13: be able to even go to one of her concerts
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 13: they have to do so, and child Tree people do.
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 3: Okay, Yes, she dunked on parents. She dunked on the
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 3: idea of what of literally And when I say that
• 2:03:11
  Speaker 3: this is like a conflict of identities, these women are
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 3: taking an identity from self sacrifice to an external standard
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 3: which is in contradiction to all of these feminist and
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 3: communist identities, which is my needs. My sacrifices are illegitimate.
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 3: Somebody else should be sacrificing for me. So these women
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 3: are like, I want to sacrifice for something else. The
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 3: women Cox, Manifestelle Byrony, and Rainbow Shite are all like, no,
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 3: I have to be sacrificed for that's my identity. I
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 3: have to be the one who is provided for and
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 3: I don't acknowledge any external standard that I have to
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 3: live up to. And you are when you say that
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 3: motherhood is worth or is miserable, you are denying how
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 3: these women see themselves, that their misery is in service
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 3: of a greater thing, like something else that they're serving.
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 3: So you are attacking them, right, do you see what
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 3: I'm saying, Brian, Yeah, And you are attacking. You are
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 3: attacking how they fundamentally see themselves. They see their misery
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 3: in service of something greater, and you see, well, misery
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 3: human women being miserable. Miserable is oppression. It should end.
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 3: And this is what I use to manipulate men. So
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 3: shut up about how you you you find fulfillment in
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 3: your misery, that's wrong. Your misery and service of something
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 3: greater than yourself, that's wrong. And you attack their identities.
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 3: You've attacked how they see their self worth, these mothers
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 3: self worth. So yes, this woman has attacked them.
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, next clip Evy magazine everything.
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 13: If you're fortunate enough to not not about TV magazine,
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 13: I did talk about them in my raw Milk video.
• 2:05:02
  Speaker 13: They're basically trying to be a right wing version of Cosmo,
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 13: and they are scarily growing in popularity. Anyone who thinks mother.
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 1: Probably because they don't. They're not like ninety percent ads,
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 1: and they actually are content. I mean, I'm not. I
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 1: don't read ev magazine. It's basically just like it's for women.
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 1: But if you're going to compare it to Cosmo, like
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 1: women's magazines, like mainstream ones are just ads, Like the
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 1: whole thing is just ads. You're paying seven bucks for ads,
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 1: and uh yeah, I guess I would rather just read
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 1: at least something that has articles, even if I don't
• 2:05:36
  Speaker 1: like the articles. So but anyway, let me see is
• 2:05:42
  Speaker 1: that the rest of No, there's a little bit more here,
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 1: so let's go.
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 13: It is one long soul sucking descent into despair has
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 13: either never spent meaningful time around actual mothers or is
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 13: so immersed in their own dopamine. Addicted main character Life
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 13: that the idea of loving someone with your whole hat
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 13: sounds like torture. Wow, that is quite a reaction, and
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 13: on their Instagram they shared this little slide deck too.
• 2:06:06
  Speaker 13: When Media Research Center said this chaperone, a gen Z
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 13: popstar who dresses in drag, claims, all my friends who
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 13: have kids are in hell. I don't know anyone who
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 13: is happy with kids. Fact check. Statistically, the happiest women
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 13: in America and married and have children. Huh okay, let
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 13: me go fact check this unsourced claim, because once again
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 13: at Brandolini's law comes rocky around the corner, Like, y,
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 13: what does this?
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 1: Because it takes Brandolini's law basically the amounts of energy
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 1: and time needed to produce bullshit.
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're about to see you example.
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then she's going to show that it takes
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: a lot more work to disprove lies.
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because she's about to She's just about to puke
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 3: out a lie.
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's keep going.
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 13: It's so much longer to debunk misinformation than spread misinformation.
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 13: So I went on at forty five minute long journey
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 13: yesterday trying to find the exact sauce here, and guess
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 13: what happened when I typed in that little statistic. The
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 13: first thing that popped up was this the end statute fist.
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 1: So if you spend forty five minutes doing it, how
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 1: come it came up when you just typed in the
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 1: little statistic M.
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 13: Family studies. No red flags there? Hey where they were
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 13: referencing the.
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, so family studies that did it. Therefore it's debunked,
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 1: I guess, Yeah, but it.
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 3: Doesn't debunk the actual findings of the general Social survey.
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 3: So just keep going. She she quotes the on okay,
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 3: she quotes Dolan, but keep going. I knew it was
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 3: going to be Dolan, by the way. I knew it.
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 3: I knew once I saw her flapping lips over this
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 3: that it was going to be Dolan, freaking like that
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 3: man should honestly write a gigantic page and pay Google
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 3: to correct the red on this. It was such a
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 3: gigantic boner that he did.
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 13: And it just keeps going, all right, says General Social Survey.
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 13: But they had no links, no sources there either, So
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 13: then I kept on going to find the GSS information.
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 3: Two sources. They literally see the General Social Survey that
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 3: is the source. You don't have to link to it.
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 3: This is a person who's never under never had to
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 3: list citations at the end of w a of a
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 3: research assignment or a thesis. Okay, keep going, all right.
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 13: And this is the part which took up most of
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 13: my time, because my goodness, they made it super hard.
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 13: But I eventually found it with this chart, which is
• 2:08:46
  Speaker 13: referencing the information which they kept on trying to share
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 13: without linking back to it. My god, why do you
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 13: think I spent so long linking all of my sources
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 13: In the description box For people, their source is the
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 13: happiness charts measured over time. As you can see, this
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 13: goes back in nineteen seventy four. And this light aren't
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 13: line that's married people. But very similarly, I could filter
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 13: the condition of health and the happiest people at those
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 13: who are healthy. I could so easily go making this
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 13: into a headline too. The happiest people in America are
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 13: also the healthiest and nablest society that basically punishes people. Yeah,
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 13: no kidding, Sherlock.
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. Maybe they're healthy because they have a
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 1: good attitude, Like maybe they take care of themselves because
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 1: life is worth living. What I'm saying, like you're putting
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 1: the nevermind? Go ahead?
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah no, I think she's just basically saying that married
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 3: people are self selecting. Yeah they are, but to stay
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 3: married you actually need to have good habits. To be healthy,
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 3: you probably also need to have good habits. So I
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 3: don't know where she's going with this. Marriage doesn't make
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 3: you necessarily happy or healthy. It's just if you are
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 3: capable of maintaining the state of being married, you're more
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 3: likely to be able to be happy. Let's uh, I
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 3: don't know how far in she actually gets to the
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 3: freaking point. I actually just went to her her studies,
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 3: but just keep going.
• 2:10:11
  Speaker 13: Plus, when you look at the historical data, merit people
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 13: overwhelmingly are the happiest, so this doesn't news in any way.
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 13: So just the funzies I was playing around the different
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 13: filters and saw the citizenship status. Well, people who aren't
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 13: citizens are the happiest. Why didn't they make this the
• 2:10:29
  Speaker 13: front page news? And what don't you know the class
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 13: the people?
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's not relevant. We're talking about like mothers,
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 2:10:37
  Speaker 3: People who are willing to respond to a survey by
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 3: the US government and not be citizens, or probably HB
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 3: one's you know, yeah, h one bees, you know, like, Okay,
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 3: let's she doesn't get to the point. I don't think,
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 3: but let's keep going, all right.
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 13: People have high wealth also the happiest.
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 3: Huh.
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 13: It's almost like having that safety net of all of
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 13: this money allows you to be able to get healthcare,
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 13: maybe holidays, all the fresh fruit and vegetables you could need,
• 2:11:06
  Speaker 13: and oh god, oh my goodness, you could even afford
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 13: to buy home.
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 3: The I can't wait. I got I got a tablet
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 3: so I can start drawing these concepts out for you, lady.
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 3: If you incentivize need and not merit, nobody is going
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 3: to have anything at the end of the day, because
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 3: nobody's going to build or make anything.
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 3: All they're going to do is say I have needs,
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 3: provide for them, and they're not going to actually provide
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 3: for anyone else's needs. How do they not know this?
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 3: You've got to incentivize productivity somehow. Otherwise you're all like,
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 3: it's not it is not money that makes you wealthy,
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 3: it's the productivity of your neighbor. All right, let's keep going.
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 13: It's like money can indeed buy things that can bring
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 13: you happiness because you feel secure. Meslo's hierarchy of needs
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 13: and everything. I mean, I guess in one case with
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 13: cheese head over here, because he is deeply, deeply unhappy,
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 13: but will be getting to him soon, don't worry in
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 13: a future video, so subscribe for that.
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because she hates Elon Musk now, even though
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 1: he was literally saving the planet like a couple of
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 1: years ago, but now he's the bad guy, and that
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 1: means he's actually secretly miserable. And I'm going to figure
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 1: it all out with my telepathy because women they have
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 1: to let I don't know, if you know that.
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 3: Can't be miserable. He's too autistic. Yeah, I know, right,
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 3: all human emotions are are I don't know.
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 1: These women, they they go on and on about ableism,
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 1: but they really really hate guys on the spectrum guys
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 1: on the spectrum they hate them, and I think it's
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 1: because those guys on the spectrum don't appear to give
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 1: a shit about women's opinions. So that's what pisses them off,
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 1: is that it doesn't satisfy their narcissistic needs. But anyway,
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 1: next time code for this person trying to be nice
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 1: of thirteen thirty nine.
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 3: Ultimately I wanted to actually get into her. I don't
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 3: know when she actually talks specifically, but I'm pretty sure
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 3: she talks about Dolan.
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 1: At some point, right, Yeah, I don't know.
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 3: You see, you know what, go to the next time code,
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 3: I will, I will delve into the transcript.
• 2:13:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have my act there.
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 3: These are complete blackout goggles, just in case the cancer
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 3: gets so bad I can't even I can't even allow
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 3: any light into my eyes.
• 2:13:36
  Speaker 13: Just to an individual level, And this is the part
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 13: which these right wing outlets don't want to be talked about,
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 13: because that means that facing the fact that we should
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 13: actually begin texes from the rich people, because then we
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 13: could have better social safety nuts with people, which would
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 13: make people overall happier. When it comes to the US
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 13: in particular, there is a strong clinging to individualism, that
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 13: it's the mother's failure if she is struggling at all,
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 13: not the fact that like the government's let her down
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 13: by reducing ever even having those social support safety nets.
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 3: Wait a second, what are you talking about. If women
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 3: can't provide for their children, they get welfare. If men
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 3: can't provide for their children, they go to jail. What
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 3: the hell are you talking about.
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but she's not American, so like that's just like
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 1: this is discarded.
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, discarded. Well, then you have to discard my opinion.
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, yeah, maybe, but like we we have
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 1: obviously we have social safety nets too many. It's one
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 1: of the reasons why so many people are trying to
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 1: come over here. But they're also trying to impose their
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 1: beliefs about what should be you know, considered, uh, the
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 1: government's role in people's lives. And it's a it's a
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 1: very European idea that, you know, that we should have
• 2:15:00
  Speaker 1: all this free shit. And of course women they don't
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 1: know where money even comes from, Like they're just like
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 1: I just is it in the back, Like I just
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 1: want my healthcare, Like I don't care how it happens, right,
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 1: And they assume that they don't get it, then there's
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 1: something unfair that's going on, so they complain, like this
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 1: is why, you know, like women of this woman's generation,
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 1: the zoomers. I think she's a zoomer. I might be
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 1: a little bit too flattering. The more the women are
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 1: more radically left than the men are, and I mean
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 1: like way more. And a lot of it has to
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 1: do with social media, and the way that social media
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 1: is sort of like you know, is there are people
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 1: using it to push women that way, because women respond
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 1: to groupthink and peer pressure and this kind of thing,
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 1: so they're more likely to go along with that. And
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 1: plus it's very nice to hear, you know, the government
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 1: will take care of you. The government will give you things.
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 1: The government will tax those those evil, evil rich people
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 1: and all their monies and give it to you, which
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 1: will obviously be the better place to put it, because
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 1: you're gonna know what to do with it. Meanwhile, like
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 1: you know, several ding dongs later, you're four hundred pounds
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 1: and like diabetic, but at least you're taken care of.
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 1: I guess I.
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 3: Guess the logic here, and I guess it's segues also
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 3: into how this is sort of bifurcated into the right
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 3: being male and the left being female, even though concern
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 3: women used to vote majority conservative up until like the
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 3: two thousands, almost I think. But anyway, so we got
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 3: this bifurcation, and I think I just just occurred to
• 2:16:34
  Speaker 3: me that I think the Communists believed that men should
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 3: be motivated by others' needs in order to work. But
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 3: men are you know, fathers are motivated by the needs
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 3: of their wives and children like but I guess they
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 3: want men to be motivated by the needs of abstractions
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 3: as opposed to people in their own families. Oh, I
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 3: just thought i'd throw that out is a possible explanation
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 3: and where they're coming from, all right.
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, the thing is is that, like I was
• 2:17:07
  Speaker 1: saying in the beginning of the video, so Brian renny
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 1: Claire is like, I guess she's married or something. But
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 1: she's queer too, so I'm sure she's not a handful
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 1: for her man. But but like women like this, the
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 1: communist ones, or at least the more openly I think
• 2:17:22
  Speaker 1: I think Manifestel will be fine with Communism. The more
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 1: openly communist ones like this one, they're basically like I
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 1: want men's provision. But I'm just gonna use the state
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 1: to get it, and I'm gonna make them make men
• 2:17:34
  Speaker 1: give me stuff so that I get like my comfort
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 1: needs met without me having to give anything back, without
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 1: me even needing to have kids to perpetuate the species.
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 1: And it's like they don't even realize that where the
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 1: productivity comes from is people, and that you need to
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 1: make new people in order to keep producing. And you know,
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 1: the communist model only ends up like starving everybody out,
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 1: and like essentially it turns people into expendable widgets in
• 2:18:00
  Speaker 1: a giant machine, most of whom are men. But of
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 1: course they don't think, you know, past like the length
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 1: of their arm. That's just like what do I want?
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 1: And that's it, right. So, and here's the thing that
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 1: is funny is that they're doing this because men are
• 2:18:13
  Speaker 1: not going along with this. I have something here that
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 1: I want to share. Surprise, I have a link too.
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 1: This is from the New York Post. Women are gen Z.
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 1: Women are choosing older men over guys their own age.
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 1: And it's not because they're sugar daddies. It's because men
• 2:18:34
  Speaker 1: their age want traditional women. They're basically like the the
• 2:18:39
  Speaker 1: gen Z men want women that are going to be essentially,
• 2:18:46
  Speaker 1: they want women that are going to be more you know,
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 1: monogamous traditional, give them families, et cetera. And they're and
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 1: they're doing it to the point where zoomer women are like,
• 2:18:55
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to date the older leftists, right millennials,
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 1: and of course there's it's that's what they're chasing. Because
• 2:19:04
  Speaker 1: zoomer men are becoming they're basically more traditional, they're more
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 1: right wing, not like radically so I know that people
• 2:19:12
  Speaker 1: like Brian and Declare would claim that they are not
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 1: radically so just sort of like common sense stuff.
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 3: No, just more like center right at most or just center.
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, basically they just want the shit that like,
• 2:19:24
  Speaker 1: you know, we had a few generations to go. It's
• 2:19:27
  Speaker 1: not even like that crazy. It's like, oh, I want
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 1: to you know, I want to have some children and
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 1: like own some property. And so like you get this
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 1: young generation of men coming up and they know what
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 1: they want and they're going for it and they don't
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 1: care what women want. They're done with that, they're done
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 1: with listening to them, especially the zoomer women who've completely
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 1: left up, gone completely off the rails, like they're getting
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 1: to the point. There was another video I wanted to
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 1: find but I couldn't. It was a TikTok video of
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 1: a zoomer woman applying makeup and explaining to other women
• 2:19:58
  Speaker 1: all of the various what does she call it, like
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 1: red flags and like you know, going down into like
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 1: like regular content that could take them down a right
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 1: wing rabbit hole to becoming like radical like you know,
• 2:20:11
  Speaker 1: Christian nationalists and all this other and fascists and stuff.
• 2:20:15
  Speaker 1: And it was shit, like you know, caring about your
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 1: health like seriously, like like eating natural, using like all
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 1: natural makeup that isn't like made with like you know,
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 1: all kinds of crazy chemicals and tested on animals, going
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 1: to the gym like stuff that is you know, healthy,
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 1: maintaining your you know, a healthy weight like that that stuff.
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 1: And she's like, oh, it'll it'll put you down a
• 2:20:39
  Speaker 1: rabbit hole because you might, you know, start questioning like institutions,
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 1: like government institutions, like like the Department of Education. You
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 1: might question them if you like homeschool your kids. So
• 2:20:52
  Speaker 1: she literally advocating that women stop doing stuff that they enjoy,
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 1: even including things like crystals and shit, which you obviously
• 2:21:00
  Speaker 1: is bullshit. But because they might become happy doing that,
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 1: and they might want to keep doing that, And that's
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 1: a problem because women have to constantly be in the
• 2:21:12
  Speaker 1: revolutionary headspace of like fighting against men and the system
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 1: and patriarchy, et cetera. This is where women are at
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 1: right now. This is where zoomer women are at right now.
• 2:21:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and again, it's like this bifurcation that you become
• 2:21:24
  Speaker 3: if you have any investment in recognizing productivity comes from meritocracy,
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 3: and meritocracy needs to be incentivized or recognized somehow, so,
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 3: you know, and and then you are on the right.
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 3: According to them, you're on the extreme right. And yet
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 3: I would actually challenge these people, these communists, that if
• 2:21:44
  Speaker 3: they really want to create a society in which the
• 2:21:47
  Speaker 3: motivation for people to be productive is the needs of others,
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 3: why do they have like why is men's needs, men's issues?
• 2:21:57
  Speaker 3: Why is why do they act like in the presence
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 3: of men's issues? Why do they act like vampires in
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 3: the presence of sunlight? Like you realize we were already
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 3: basically communism. It's just that it's communism for women, right.
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 3: But the only other place we could go to is
• 2:22:17
  Speaker 3: to create a state that recognized that men deserve stuff
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 3: when they have needs. That's the only other place we
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 3: could go to with our communism, right, and not only
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 3: is it generally rejected by men because they want to
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 3: define themselves more in terms of getting stuff based on
• 2:22:31
  Speaker 3: their actions and their merit rather than their needs. I
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 3: would say that sometimes that's taken too far. Every race
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 3: card needs a pit stop occasionally, right, But regardless, you know,
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 3: if you are going to pursue communism any further than
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 3: what it is now, then you got to recognize men's
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 3: needs have to also drive policy. But they never will
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 3: because every time you bring up men, you know, all
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 3: of the communists who are like, oh, yes, the state
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 3: should take care of us from cradle to grave, and
• 2:23:05
  Speaker 3: you bring up something like, well, what about you know,
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 3: boys falling back in education, what about you know the
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 3: fact that infant boys are generally mutilate, what about boy
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 3: men and boys facing domestic violence or sexual assault? What
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 3: about men and boys not graduating as much? And what
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 3: about what about men and boys in any context? And
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 3: they're like, well, they can just pull themselves up by
• 2:23:27
  Speaker 3: their bootstraps. And it's like wow, that I just I
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 3: just I just exercised you.
• 2:23:33
  Speaker 1: If you're going to redistribute, Well, somebody's got to be
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 1: doing the bootstrapping, and it's gonna be These are not
• 2:23:40
  Speaker 1: actually contradictions. This is the way it works. Like, this
• 2:23:44
  Speaker 1: is the way it works. They the women are the
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 1: party and the men are not. They are the enemy.
• 2:23:51
  Speaker 1: They are the bourgeoisie, so they deserve what's come into them.
• 2:23:54
  Speaker 3: I just find it amusing that that I can exercise
• 2:23:59
  Speaker 3: the communism them in like five seconds by just simple
• 2:24:02
  Speaker 3: bringing up men's issues.
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:24:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're just they're they're basically their caricature of the right.
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 3: They're like, yeah, they shouldn't.
• 2:24:10
  Speaker 6: Get anything anything.
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 3: They need to pull themselves up. They need to pull
• 2:24:17
  Speaker 3: themselves up by their toothhairs and some shit, you know that.
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 3: Like it's just instantaneously the communism injects from their head
• 2:24:25
  Speaker 3: and splatters onto the Wall's stupid. We can't keep them
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 3: in that state, then we would neutralize all communism everywhere.
• 2:24:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but in a communist mindset, somebody has to be
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 1: the one. That's what I'm saying, Like, this isn't actually
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 1: a contradiction. This is the way it works. Like they're
• 2:24:43
  Speaker 1: basically deciding the men are the ones with the property.
• 2:24:47
  Speaker 1: They're the ones we're going to essentially genocide so that
• 2:24:50
  Speaker 1: the women can have the property. We're gonna slowly kill
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 1: them by making them work to provide for women. So yeah,
• 2:24:56
  Speaker 1: if you bring it's just like chee on Head's video
• 2:24:58
  Speaker 1: where she was like, I don't understand why, like my
• 2:25:01
  Speaker 1: my lefty friends don't like men, and it's just clip
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 1: after clip of after clip of communists saying fuck men,
• 2:25:08
  Speaker 1: because they are the they have the power, they are
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 1: the enemy. So this is not it's not really a contradiction, like,
• 2:25:16
  Speaker 1: this is the way it works. This is the way
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 1: communism works. Somebody has to be the person who redistributed.
• 2:25:24
  Speaker 3: I know, it's the way it works.
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know.
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 3: But they are in this mentality of virtue. Yes, said
• 2:25:31
  Speaker 3: that everybody's going to be taken care of, right, and
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 3: then you say, well, men have needs and suddenly suddenly
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 3: the communism just ejects from their head like a fucking demon,
• 2:25:42
  Speaker 3: splatters on the wall.
• 2:25:43
  Speaker 1: Behind them, like, well, men don't. Men don't deserve Communists,
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 1: men don't deserve.
• 2:25:47
  Speaker 3: And I know it's because they want the men to
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 3: underwrite everything. Even though you actually look at Stalinist, you know,
• 2:25:54
  Speaker 3: Soviet that that wasn't the way it worked, ladies and gents,
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 3: because when.
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 1: It's gonna work, and it's gonna work this time.
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 3: The Soviet communism worked not for very long. It just
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 3: required a tremendous amount of state violence. It required a
• 2:26:19
  Speaker 3: lot of shootings and gulag.
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 2:26:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were getting there, they were getting they got
• 2:26:24
  Speaker 1: they were very close, missed it by by about.
• 2:26:27
  Speaker 3: You know, it just was there was They had to
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 3: replace the meritocracy with the boot and the whip, and
• 2:26:35
  Speaker 3: they did it to both men and women. That's my point. Yeah,
• 2:26:39
  Speaker 3: I know, yeah, okay, all right.
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 13: All right, anyway, let next sound like space there really
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 13: acting like this scene from Night.
• 2:26:47
  Speaker 3: Bitch, happiness is choice?
• 2:26:51
  Speaker 13: A valid response to that?
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 1: Why the choice?
• 2:26:55
  Speaker 13: I think it's important.
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 3: Okay, So go ahead.
• 2:27:01
  Speaker 1: Well, and I was gonna say, like Byron and Claire,
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 1: she basically her whole thing is she takes fiction created
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 1: by feminists and then presents it as truth and then says,
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 1: look at this fictional thing, this is so real. I
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 1: agree with it because it's made by people like her.
• 2:27:19
  Speaker 1: So it's like, what's the point, Like, what are we
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 1: even looking at? That'd be my like, it's just ridiculous,
• 2:27:24
  Speaker 1: but go ahead.
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 3: Okay. So what we're looking at as a man saying
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 3: that happiness is a choice and a woman hits her
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 3: hits him in the face because apparently her happiness is
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 3: his responsibility, right, you know, he's basically saying, your happiness
• 2:27:41
  Speaker 3: is your responsibility, lady, and she's like domestic or otherwise
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 3: violence in response to that, what is she saying. She's saying, no,
• 2:27:49
  Speaker 3: it's actually your responsibility. And of course we're supposed to
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 3: cheer on the woman because because men underwrite everything. And
• 2:27:57
  Speaker 3: also if I ever spoke to Byrony in person and
• 2:28:01
  Speaker 3: mention men's needs, the communism would eject from her like
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 3: from her mouth, like extracism, vomit like, and then suddenly
• 2:28:11
  Speaker 3: she'd be like bedstress.
• 2:28:14
  Speaker 1: Yep, okay, so let me see next one. Yeah, I
• 2:28:21
  Speaker 1: guess there's a little bit more. Let's keep going on.
• 2:28:23
  Speaker 13: The people are able to have honest conversations about how
• 2:28:26
  Speaker 13: hard it is to be a parent in a society
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 13: which basically lets you just flounder. It's seeing that you
• 2:28:32
  Speaker 13: should be able to quote handle it all. Because mums
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 13: especially often called superwoman for doing it all without ever
• 2:28:39
  Speaker 13: recognizing that they have to do it all because there
• 2:28:42
  Speaker 13: is no village to support them, especially in the US.
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 6: There's no healthcare, sup, there's no village.
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 3: Like seriously, well, who destroyed the village. If you want
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 3: a village, ladies, you got to actually you gotta actually
• 2:28:55
  Speaker 3: behave like a villager, like a woman who put it's
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 3: her community ahead of her own self interests. Otherwise there's
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 3: no village to appeal to because nobody is putting. You're
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 3: all just singletons within the same proximity, right, So you're
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 3: not gonna do that because you're incredibly selfish people. But
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 3: you know, let's go to the next time code.
• 2:29:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so a lot of gets through. Actually, this
• 2:29:25
  Speaker 1: is it. This is it for byrony Uh, that's it
• 2:29:28
  Speaker 1: for Brianny. I mean basically she's she uses fiction to
• 2:29:32
  Speaker 1: make her point about reality and it's fiction, so it's
• 2:29:35
  Speaker 1: not reality. And she clais, oh look at you know,
• 2:29:38
  Speaker 1: it's well acted therefore, right, And there's some movie with
• 2:29:41
  Speaker 1: Charlie's Theerron that she also uses. I don't I guess
• 2:29:44
  Speaker 1: it's called the Letdown. Maybe that's what this is. I
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 1: don't know, I don't care. Uh, we have the queer
• 2:29:49
  Speaker 1: Keiwi next though so she because and these two both
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 1: have the same ideas, so it's very similar. But essentially
• 2:29:58
  Speaker 1: Brianny and Queer Kiri. You know, Byrony is Australian, Queer
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 1: Kiwi is from New Zealand, so they're basically like sisters,
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 1: and they both have the same conclusions. What we need
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 1: is more of the state involved, which is basically communism
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 1: or at least socialism until we're ready become new people
• 2:30:16
  Speaker 1: and then will have communism. Then women might consider maybe
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 1: having children for the for the country, as long as
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 1: there's a big enough village that's more involved. So when
• 2:30:26
  Speaker 1: she says a village, she's not talking about like a
• 2:30:29
  Speaker 1: community that's organically coming together and like they all, you know,
• 2:30:33
  Speaker 1: share similar values and they live in the same community
• 2:30:35
  Speaker 1: and they all know each other. No, no, no, she's
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 1: talking about a government that is handing out money taken
• 2:30:40
  Speaker 1: from men, you know that she doesn't even know what
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 1: they look like, so and then giving that to women
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 1: like her. So anyway, so this is a queer Kiwi
• 2:30:51
  Speaker 1: or as I like to call her, rainbow shite, and
• 2:30:55
  Speaker 1: we will go to her first time code at.
• 2:30:58
  Speaker 3: And also Voidcat has made a rep pearents Okay, it's
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 3: so so upsetting.
• 2:31:07
  Speaker 14: There are quite a lot of men in this upreddit
• 2:31:08
  Speaker 14: who said that they didn't want to have a kid
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 14: because they didn't feel like it was something they could
• 2:31:11
  Speaker 14: do or were going to be very good at.
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 3: But then their.
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 14: Partners were like very persistent and like threatening to leave
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 14: them or et cetera, and saying that, you know, having
• 2:31:23
  Speaker 14: a kid would be amazing and effectively eventually talking them
• 2:31:26
  Speaker 14: into it.
• 2:31:29
  Speaker 1: It's ready.
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But also I wanted to point this out. I
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 3: thought this was an interesting time code. It's a bit different,
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 3: Like I decided to go with a little the male perspective,
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 3: Like suddenly we have a moment, a blip in the
• 2:31:44
  Speaker 3: matrix and we get the male perspective. We see it
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 3: through the rip and the time space continuum, the no,
• 2:31:49
  Speaker 3: the fem space continuum, you know, and we just get
• 2:31:56
  Speaker 3: a moment of the of how much pressure there is
• 2:31:59
  Speaker 3: on men to have the child that they're women want, right,
• 2:32:04
  Speaker 3: you know. And I just thought that was interesting. But
• 2:32:07
  Speaker 3: of course it's never addressed again, Like it doesn't she
• 2:32:10
  Speaker 3: doesn't go anywhere with it.
• 2:32:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, she just sort of like I think she's
• 2:32:17
  Speaker 1: using it to further like say, oh, Look, even the
• 2:32:20
  Speaker 1: men are unsure, right, But I mean again, men on
• 2:32:23
  Speaker 1: Reddit are not like the men in the New York
• 2:32:26
  Speaker 1: Post article that are, you know.
• 2:32:30
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 2:32:30
  Speaker 1: The reason why they're freaking out about this the New
• 2:32:32
  Speaker 1: York Post article, by the way, is because they're saying
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 1: that gen Z women are forced to date older men.
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 1: Because gen Z men, you know, they're they're into the
• 2:32:43
  Speaker 1: man of sphere content, and so that makes them scary
• 2:32:46
  Speaker 1: to women. They're obviously misogynistic or whatever. I think it's
• 2:32:49
  Speaker 1: because those women have been propaganda to fear those men
• 2:32:52
  Speaker 1: for like, you know, wanting to like essentially find a
• 2:32:56
  Speaker 1: place where they can get a positive male identity that
• 2:32:59
  Speaker 1: is not based solely on how they serve women and
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 1: how they are essentially to be used as tools. And
• 2:33:06
  Speaker 1: so they're like, well, maybe I want to build my
• 2:33:08
  Speaker 1: own thing, Maybe I want to own my own business,
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 1: Maybe I want to do something you know, productive, Like
• 2:33:12
  Speaker 1: the red pill isn't really about I think it's more
• 2:33:17
  Speaker 1: about like men sort of self actualizing and doing that
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 1: without women's like I don't know, responding to women, I guess,
• 2:33:26
  Speaker 1: and acting on its own. But they don't like that
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 1: because that doesn't center women anymore.
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 3: Can you squishing, you want to squish?
• 2:33:35
  Speaker 1: You want? All right, So what's the other time you
• 2:33:38
  Speaker 1: want to respond to this? Or try?
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 3: I go on to the next time code, Well, can
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 3: we give like a summary.
• 2:33:42
  Speaker 1: Of Brianny or rainbow shite?
• 2:33:47
  Speaker 3: I get it if you're like really tired.
• 2:33:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Lindsay's cooking and like I said, we just did
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 1: a fast and I'm like super hungry.
• 2:33:58
  Speaker 3: Could you just check your check your phone.
• 2:34:03
  Speaker 1: Because there might be something.
• 2:34:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it might be Yeah, there's a you know, the
• 2:34:07
  Speaker 3: the verification.
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 1: I gotta go to my phone.
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 3: Hold on, yeah, just i'll uh just imagine we have
• 2:34:15
  Speaker 3: Brian checking his phone music that we would put right
• 2:34:18
  Speaker 3: here and it would be very melodious.
• 2:34:20
  Speaker 1: Picked a hell of a time to do that. Yeah,
• 2:34:24
  Speaker 1: I do have something here. My phone was plugged in
• 2:34:27
  Speaker 1: back there, waiting for it to waiting for it to
• 2:34:30
  Speaker 1: open up. Okay, so show notes summary in do no no,
• 2:34:38
  Speaker 1: just I got to maybe I need the prompt expire.
• 2:34:41
  Speaker 1: Do you gotta do it again?
• 2:34:42
  Speaker 3: Okay, try again? All right, all right, we'll do this one. Okay,
• 2:34:48
  Speaker 3: there we go.
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 1: I don't have it yet, but all right, well sorry,
• 2:34:53
  Speaker 1: I go on, just just wait, just wait, just wait.
• 2:34:55
  Speaker 3: The longer these shows go on, the more the backstage
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 3: starts to become visible.
• 2:35:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, yes it's me and got it all right. Summary.
• 2:35:06
  Speaker 1: In this conversation, the host explores the subreddit are regretful preparents.
• 2:35:11
  Speaker 1: So it's literally a subreddit that is about parents who
• 2:35:15
  Speaker 1: have regrets. You can't use that as evidence of anything.
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 1: You're literally going to the place where it's happening and
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 1: saying this is happening everywhere, because it's happening here in
• 2:35:25
  Speaker 1: this very specific subreddit that is about this. So discussing
• 2:35:29
  Speaker 1: the challenges and realities of parenthood, the dialogue emphasizes the
• 2:35:33
  Speaker 1: importance of open conversations about the difficulties of raising children,
• 2:35:36
  Speaker 1: the societal pressures that have kids, and the impact of
• 2:35:39
  Speaker 1: social media on perceptions of motherhood. The host reflects on
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 1: the coercion some individuals face and their parenting decisions, and
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 1: the long term implications of these choices. The conversation also
• 2:35:49
  Speaker 1: touches on the capitalist motivations behind promoting family structures and
• 2:35:53
  Speaker 1: the emotional complexities of parenting, including regret and compassion. By
• 2:35:56
  Speaker 1: the way, another thing is that both Bribernyclare and Rainbow
• 2:35:59
  Speaker 1: Shite both say that you know people wanting kids is capitalism,
• 2:36:06
  Speaker 1: even though you need you need people, no matter what
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 1: system you want to live under. But yeah, that's a
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 1: capitalist thing having kids. Do you guys know that? Did
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 1: you know that having kids is just like being an evil,
• 2:36:17
  Speaker 1: dirty bourgeois capitalist. But the other thing that I think
• 2:36:22
  Speaker 1: is really funny about this too is that the two
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 1: commie women, I think they're political lesbians. I know that
• 2:36:27
  Speaker 1: they're both queer, whatever the hell that means, and identity
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 1: without neessence ultimately, and I think Brianny Claire might be married.
• 2:36:36
  Speaker 1: I think she claims to have a husband. This woman
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 1: is not but rainbow shite, that is. But what's interesting
• 2:36:43
  Speaker 1: about them, as well as the original person they're responding to,
• 2:36:46
  Speaker 1: is that there they were expressing concerns about being able
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 1: to marry like same sex partners. They wouldn't call it that,
• 2:36:53
  Speaker 1: I'm sure, because that implies a binary and we can't
• 2:36:56
  Speaker 1: have that. And it's weird because on the one hand,
• 2:37:00
  Speaker 1: like what is the purpose of marriage, Like let's let's
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 1: get let's just look at it from a historical perspective,
• 2:37:06
  Speaker 1: like why did people get married originally? Why did men
• 2:37:09
  Speaker 1: and women get married? They got married to start families.
• 2:37:13
  Speaker 1: That was the purpose of it, so that you like,
• 2:37:15
  Speaker 1: a man's son will have his name and then give
• 2:37:18
  Speaker 1: that name to the next and the next and the next.
• 2:37:21
  Speaker 1: Like you know, women who don't take their husband's name
• 2:37:24
  Speaker 1: when they get married, they just keep their father's name
• 2:37:26
  Speaker 1: because their father or they don't. If that wasn't the case,
• 2:37:30
  Speaker 1: then they have the grandfather's name whatever right on their
• 2:37:34
  Speaker 1: mother's side. So they're literally trying to undo what marriage
• 2:37:40
  Speaker 1: was for most of our history in terms of it
• 2:37:44
  Speaker 1: essentially serving the purpose of forming a union so that
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 1: you can have children. But they want they want the
• 2:37:50
  Speaker 1: children having part of it to stop. But they also
• 2:37:53
  Speaker 1: want to be able to marry same sex people and
• 2:37:56
  Speaker 1: not have any children, or at least not have their
• 2:37:58
  Speaker 1: own children. So it's like, I don't know, it's just weird.
• 2:38:02
  Speaker 1: It's like the what is the meaning of marriage if
• 2:38:05
  Speaker 1: you've completely inverted all of it. I'm just saying, like
• 2:38:10
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like you want marriage to exist,
• 2:38:13
  Speaker 1: but you want to exist for you, but you don't
• 2:38:15
  Speaker 1: really want it to exist for people who want to
• 2:38:17
  Speaker 1: start families, because you don't think everybody anybody should have families.
• 2:38:21
  Speaker 1: You just don't want to say that because you don't
• 2:38:23
  Speaker 1: want to judge the women who do want that, because
• 2:38:25
  Speaker 1: you're trying to preserve the sisterhood. But if it just
• 2:38:28
  Speaker 1: so happens that our population collapses, which it is doing
• 2:38:32
  Speaker 1: right now, that's okay because it's just women making choices.
• 2:38:37
  Speaker 1: Motherhood's hard.
• 2:38:38
  Speaker 3: I wish you know what, Yeah, I actually it's amazing
• 2:38:42
  Speaker 3: that these comedies make me long for Soviet Russia. I
• 2:38:48
  Speaker 3: wish they lived in Soviet Russia. Yeah, problem solves itself.
• 2:38:54
  Speaker 1: Because no people say that under communism there's no feminism,
• 2:38:58
  Speaker 1: but they use feminism to start can communism. So like
• 2:39:02
  Speaker 1: Miose Dong used to say, what's the thing he was
• 2:39:04
  Speaker 1: known for saying, women hold up half the sky. It
• 2:39:07
  Speaker 1: was one of the things that he used to get
• 2:39:10
  Speaker 1: He used women in his own country to start the
• 2:39:13
  Speaker 1: ball rolling on what is now communist China. So it
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 1: may not be feminists now because feminism already served its
• 2:39:21
  Speaker 1: purpose back then in the nineteen fifties or whenever it
• 2:39:24
  Speaker 1: happened sixties. So anyway, Yeah, but yeah, that's basically the
• 2:39:33
  Speaker 1: thesis on So there's not much.
• 2:39:36
  Speaker 3: That much difference between queer Kiwi and dirony. I think
• 2:39:44
  Speaker 3: is the ultimate conclusion.
• 2:39:45
  Speaker 1: Here.
• 2:39:47
  Speaker 3: They both do a lot of communism, and I find
• 2:39:52
  Speaker 3: myself just sort of glazing over when that starts. Yeah,
• 2:39:57
  Speaker 3: it's funny because you're right, Brian, it's like, we want
• 2:39:59
  Speaker 3: to of communism everything from his his abilities to her needs.
• 2:40:07
  Speaker 3: That's what we want. And it's also going to be
• 2:40:10
  Speaker 3: underwritten by men. But they don't want to have to
• 2:40:13
  Speaker 3: actually have a relationship with men or recognize that it's
• 2:40:17
  Speaker 3: being underwritten by men at all. This is just swaddle delusion,
• 2:40:25
  Speaker 3: like all of it. This is like the this is
• 2:40:28
  Speaker 3: the results of excessive swaddling, brain swaddling, and again all
• 2:40:38
  Speaker 3: of them are trying to contend it's so funny because
• 2:40:41
  Speaker 3: these women, these mothers, who are you know, they're they're
• 2:40:46
  Speaker 3: dealing with, if they're good mothers, they're dealing with a
• 2:40:48
  Speaker 3: certain amount of self sacrifice and self deprivation and you know,
• 2:40:52
  Speaker 3: sleep deprivation, having to do gross tasks, having to put
• 2:40:57
  Speaker 3: someone else's needs ahead of your owns, that kind of thing.
• 2:40:59
  Speaker 3: They're all dealing with that, and they're just like a
• 2:41:03
  Speaker 3: huge rock thrown into the puddle of these women because
• 2:41:07
  Speaker 3: they're women taking a positive identity, getting emotional resources from
• 2:41:12
  Speaker 3: self sacrifice, and that is completely enthetical to all of
• 2:41:17
  Speaker 3: these women's self with sense of self. Yeah, because any
• 2:41:22
  Speaker 3: kind of discomfort that women experience, a man is to
• 2:41:27
  Speaker 3: blame and a man needs to fix It's the idea
• 2:41:29
  Speaker 3: that women could endure discomfort in order to gain self
• 2:41:33
  Speaker 3: actualization is just like what is this moon's beak?
• 2:41:42
  Speaker 1: Oh man barkain, he's hungry. Time for him to eat?
• 2:41:46
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, holy crap, this is this is more
• 2:41:52
  Speaker 3: than like three hours work. This is I also did
• 2:41:55
  Speaker 3: a bunch of research. I actually watched as much of
• 2:41:58
  Speaker 3: these communists as I possibly could.
• 2:42:00
  Speaker 1: Good.
• 2:42:00
  Speaker 3: I mean the thing with communism, like I can actually
• 2:42:05
  Speaker 3: feel something. When I listen to feminists. It's mostly rage,
• 2:42:10
  Speaker 3: annoyance and pity, but I feel something. Communists are just
• 2:42:17
  Speaker 3: like they It just it's just I can't even focus
• 2:42:20
  Speaker 3: on it.
• 2:42:20
  Speaker 1: It's so boring, all right, Yeah, I mean, well.
• 2:42:28
  Speaker 3: My emotions are what are important here.
• 2:42:31
  Speaker 1: Rainbow shite doesn't make arguments. She just says ew, yikes
• 2:42:34
  Speaker 1: and uh, sweaty all the time. So there's not much.
• 2:42:38
  Speaker 1: There's not a lot of substance there. Yeah, sweaty, you know,
• 2:42:44
  Speaker 1: e yikes, you know, do better like that? Just those things,
• 2:42:48
  Speaker 1: you know. Hope this helps like, that's her whole alliver content.
• 2:42:51
  Speaker 1: At least Brian Declaire tries to bring like studies, but
• 2:42:55
  Speaker 1: she's very dishonest in how she presents them. Manifestel is
• 2:42:59
  Speaker 1: basically a reptile and Hannah Cox is a chameleon. So
• 2:43:02
  Speaker 1: there's like a couple of cold blooded bitches in there,
• 2:43:05
  Speaker 1: and a robot that prints out bad studies and a
• 2:43:09
  Speaker 1: reaction machine that's basically what we just responded to, a
• 2:43:15
  Speaker 1: surface level reaction machine.
• 2:43:17
  Speaker 3: Well, look, let's put it. We gotta we gotta bring
• 2:43:22
  Speaker 3: this stuff in and administer at least some kind of anecdote.
• 2:43:26
  Speaker 3: I know it's a small scale, but we gotta. You
• 2:43:28
  Speaker 3: gotta do something right. At least somewhere the truth is
• 2:43:31
  Speaker 3: being like, at least somewhere, maybe I shouldn't use the
• 2:43:34
  Speaker 3: word truth. Somewhere we're actually talking about the studies, yeah,
• 2:43:39
  Speaker 3: what they actually say, and you know, and bringing in
• 2:43:43
  Speaker 3: the idea that all of this is predicated on just
• 2:43:45
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but men have all the power. I don't understand.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean she uses that to excuse not having
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  Speaker 10: The mothers just rose up in anger for no reason,
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