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Speaker 1: Jeez, it's the gold reform it.
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Speaker 2: Tonight, an ABC host apologizes for a sexist joke about
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Speaker 2: his co host that I tell you it was on
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Speaker 2: Sky News. It would get him sacked. Plus a stunning
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Speaker 2: breakthrough Donald Trump changes the Middle East, makes peace with
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Speaker 2: even terrorists as Israel is shut out? Is peace finally coming?
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Speaker 2: Also tonight, the hypocrisy of Anthony Albaneze's go to election influencer.
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Speaker 1: Please stop de humanizing.
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Speaker 2: Me, and the opposition's defense spokesman unloads on the campaign
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Speaker 2: that shut him out and his right to be angry.
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Speaker 2: But first, then, before I get to this astonishing Trump
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Speaker 2: revolution over these past few days, it's historic. A breakthrough
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Speaker 2: this afternoon in the worst anti Semitic attack here since
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Speaker 2: the October seven massacre. Please have released video of three
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Speaker 2: men who talk the Adas Israel Synagogue in Melbourne last
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Speaker 2: December and December five, getting out of a stolen blue
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Speaker 2: VW golf lugging red containers of petrol to the synagogue,
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Speaker 2: hacking inside with an axe, spring the petrol and burning
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Speaker 2: the building, causing massive damage with some worshipers still inside.
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Speaker 3: Investigators have painstakingly collected CCTV from more than fourteen hundred
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Speaker 3: locations to identify and track the actions of the alleged defenders.
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Speaker 3: If you know anything about this crime, we want to
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Speaker 3: hear from you. If you know anything about the blue
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Speaker 3: VW golf Sadan, we want you to tell us what
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Speaker 3: you know.
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Speaker 2: Now. For months, many jew haters and social media claimed
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Speaker 2: Jews actually burned down their own synagogue for political reasons. Well,
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Speaker 2: it's plainly false. The stolen car, since recovered, was driven
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Speaker 2: from Melbourne's northern suburbs by three men who police warn
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Speaker 2: are extremely dangerous and also linked to a shooting and
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Speaker 2: another arson attack that same night, and to the burning
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Speaker 2: of a nightclub as well. In those ones seen part
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Speaker 2: of an organized crime war that've talked about before. One
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Speaker 2: of the men was wearing a very distinctive top. But
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Speaker 2: that crime war, involving multiple ars and attacks, is being
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Speaker 2: investigated separately to this burning of the synagogue, which police
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Speaker 2: believe is terrorism. We will continue to investigate it as
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Speaker 2: a politically motivated attack on the Jewish community. Now, police
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Speaker 2: said the stolen golf was actually used by many people
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Speaker 2: committing many crimes, including aggravated burglary. They wanted them to
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Speaker 2: come forward, and police also want people who might have
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Speaker 2: seen something that night or have dash cam footage to help. Now,
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Speaker 2: I think there's enough clues and what I've just told
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Speaker 2: you to suspect the arsonists are members of a certain
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Speaker 2: community that is definitely not Jewish. I'll talk later to
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Speaker 2: someone who's on the board of the Adas Synagogue. But
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Speaker 2: to the Trump revolution, I think this is much bigger
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Speaker 2: than what you've been told by almost anyone. I think.
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Speaker 2: I think our world has just been radically changed. Donald
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Speaker 2: Trump has this week made an extraordinary series of deals
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Speaker 2: in the Middle East, even with terrorists, and thanks to
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Speaker 2: this US president, piece in this region of blood has
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Speaker 2: never been closer, it seems, because there is also a
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Speaker 2: danger of a massive backfire. Trump just making Isamus terrorists
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Speaker 2: even stronger, and that is why Israel is scared. Trump's
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Speaker 2: revolutionary changes actually started just before his visit this week,
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Speaker 2: a visit's still going on to Saudi Arabia, Katara and
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Speaker 2: now the United Arab Emirates. A week ago, Trump suddenly
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Speaker 2: declared it made peace with Houti extremists in Yemen, who
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Speaker 2: have for months and months fired missiles at Israel, missiles
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Speaker 2: at ships using the Seuiz Canal, even at American warships. Well,
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Speaker 2: Trump has hit them with a month of view as
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Speaker 2: strikes against Hootie bases, but then suddenly canceled the attacks,
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Speaker 2: claimed peace and even praised the Hooties. We had a
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Speaker 2: very good outcome with the Hooties.
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Speaker 4: They took tremendous punishment, and you know, you could say
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Speaker 4: there's a lot of bravery there. That it was amazing
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Speaker 4: what they took. But we honored their commitment, and they
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Speaker 4: gave us their word that they wouldn't be shooting ships anymore,
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Speaker 4: and we honor that.
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Speaker 2: That's not quite true. The Hooties agreed only to stop
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Speaker 2: firing at American ships, Israeli ships and others. No mercy,
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Speaker 2: and that is not what Israel wanted. But Trump had
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Speaker 2: lost patience with his war, was worried about running short
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Speaker 2: of missiles for later, and angry that already cost a
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Speaker 2: billion dollars and that two US jets had even fallen
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Speaker 2: off carriers into the sea. But how he ended this
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Speaker 2: by suddenly declaring his enemy's friends, or at least brave
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Speaker 2: and trustworthy. Is now his new approach to the Middle East.
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Speaker 2: Look what is now done on this week's trip. It
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Speaker 2: started in Saudi Arabia, which flattered Trump with lavish welcomes
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Speaker 2: and especially with trade deals worth more than nine hundred
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Speaker 2: billion dollars, or so says Trump. It's probably two million
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Speaker 2: we're talking about. Included is a two hundred billion dollar
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Speaker 2: arms deal at Saudi Arabia will as it buying advanced
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Speaker 2: American weapons, which will help make it a dominant military
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Speaker 2: power in the Middle East, riveled only by Israel. No wonder,
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Speaker 2: Trump loves Saudi's Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, despite Slimon
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Speaker 2: reportedly ordering the murder and dismemberment of a dissident in Turkey.
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Speaker 5: When we have great partners in the world, but we
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Speaker 5: have none stronger and no nobody like the gentleman that's
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Speaker 5: straight before me. He's your greatest representative.
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Speaker 2: I like him a lot.
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Speaker 1: I like him too much.
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Speaker 2: But that wasn't even close to the most radical part
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Speaker 2: of Trump's trip. Trump also met the new interim president
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Speaker 2: of Syria, Ahmed al Sharrah, who was once the head
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Speaker 2: of al Qaeda in Syria, a man who was jailed
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Speaker 2: by America for six years but fought Americans and as
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Speaker 2: oricently as last year, he was still wanted by America
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Speaker 2: under his nondigere reward ten million dollars, but Trump now
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Speaker 2: praises him as well.
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Speaker 6: How did you find the Syrian president Gat great?
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Speaker 2: I think very good, young, attractive, yay.
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Speaker 1: Tough guy.
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Speaker 2: What's more, Trump also agreed to lift America's long standing
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Speaker 2: economic sanctions on Syria, crippling sanctions which set off wild
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Speaker 2: celebrations back in Syria and applause from Arab leaders in Riad.
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Speaker 5: I will be ordering the cessation of sanctions against Syria
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Speaker 5: in order to give them a chance outreatners.
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Speaker 2: Now again, that is not what Israel wanted. It wants
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Speaker 2: Syria on its borders, kept weak and doesn't trust the president.
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Speaker 2: Shara really is now a moderate, I mean just last
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Speaker 2: week Shara appointed a former terrorists linked to the Islamic
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Speaker 2: State as head of his army in North Syria. This
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Speaker 2: is a murderer whose victims include a female politician, and
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Speaker 2: Shara's militia have been killing allowites, I mean as recently
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Speaker 2: as last week. But Trump's revolution still hasn't finished. In Qatar,
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Speaker 2: Trump then announced more trade deals almost four hundred billion dollars,
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Speaker 2: another huge arms steal four Qatar, even though Katar funds
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Speaker 2: the extremist Muslim brotherhood and shelters the headquarters there of Hamas,
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Speaker 2: the terrorists behind the October seven massacre. Yet now Katar
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Speaker 2: is such a Trump friend that it's actually giving Trump
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Speaker 2: a six hundred million dollar flying palace as a personal gift,
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Speaker 2: and Trump actually accepted. Now, the only good news to
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Speaker 2: Israel in the strip is that Trump again said Iran
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Speaker 2: could never be allowed to build a nuclear bomb. But
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Speaker 2: the rest, well, look, it is a huge change and
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Speaker 2: if it works, it will be brilliant. I mean the
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Speaker 2: Middle East becoming close, American allies developing, becoming more moderate,
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Speaker 2: intertwined with the world economy. But if it doesn't work out,
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Speaker 2: say these ruling families get overthrown. It has happened before.
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Speaker 2: Look at run. Well, for now Trump is remaking the
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Speaker 2: Middle East, and there is some hope. But we must
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Speaker 2: wait to see if his bold dreams really do come true. Now,
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Speaker 2: just quickly, there's another part of Trump's foreign policy that
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Speaker 2: isn't going well at all. Last week, the leaders of Britain, France,
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Speaker 2: Poland and Germany went to Ukraine, sent Russian President Vladimir
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Speaker 2: Putin an ultimatum last chance, agreed to a thirty day
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Speaker 2: seasfire right now, or face even tougher sanctions, but Trump
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Speaker 2: immediately undercut them again. Agree He actually agreed to Putin's
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Speaker 2: latest stall and demand. No, no, no, I want face
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Speaker 2: to face talks today Thursday in Turkey. Before any sees
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Speaker 2: far well, Ukraine's president and Snuka Putin by saying, all right,
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Speaker 2: old be in Turkey today. But Putin, you've got to
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Speaker 2: come too, face to face. But Putin, guess what hasn't shown?
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Speaker 2: And the war goes on. Joining me is General Jack Keane.
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Speaker 2: General Kean was Vice chief of Staff at the United
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Speaker 2: States Army and a four star general, and is now
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Speaker 2: a chairman of the Institute for the Study of War.
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Speaker 2: General Keen, pleasure to see you, because we are talking
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Speaker 2: about historic events. I'll be really interested in your analysis.
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Speaker 2: Here We've got Donald Trump in Yemen and in Syria
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Speaker 2: and in Qatar making peace with Islamis terrorists and their sponsors.
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Speaker 2: He's made arms deals with the Saudis and Qatar that
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Speaker 2: will make them much stronger in the region. And it's
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Speaker 2: done all of this without Israel's consent to will, and
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Speaker 2: without even visiting Israel as well on this trip. All
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Speaker 2: this is such a massive change what do you make
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Speaker 2: of it?
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Speaker 7: Well, I think I draw back on a look at it.
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Speaker 7: I think what it really is is that the return
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Speaker 7: of strong American leadership in the region and clearly attempting
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Speaker 7: to strengthen the ties that we already have in that
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Speaker 7: region with Arab partners, and obviously the ties.
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Speaker 1: With Israel are very strong.
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Speaker 7: I think it actually also is done in such a
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Speaker 7: demonstrative way. They replaced the failed Biden policies in the
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Speaker 7: region for the last four years, and by that I
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Speaker 7: mean they appease the Iranians in.
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Speaker 1: The nuclear deal.
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Speaker 7: They refuse to get involved in doing anything that curb
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Speaker 7: their behavior in the region. They let the Huthies continue
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Speaker 7: to disrupt the Suez Canal and the Red Sea. And
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Speaker 7: here comes Trump. From the very beginning of his presidency,
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Speaker 7: he removed all restrictions on weapons to Israel, back there
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Speaker 7: operational plans completely, did not get involved in micromanaging how
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Speaker 7: they did their business.
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Speaker 1: And right now, on the cusp of.
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Speaker 7: Leaving the Middle East region, Israel has been holding back
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Speaker 7: and conducting a very comprehensive ground campaign in Gaza to
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Speaker 7: finish off Hamas once and for all. And the Trump
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Speaker 7: administration is supporting that. I don't think it's that big
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Speaker 7: a deal that Israel is not on the list of
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Speaker 7: the three countries they're visiting, because the support for Israel
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Speaker 7: is very strong.
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Speaker 1: And what Trump has done here too.
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Speaker 7: He's confronted her on and he's flat told them, you're
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Speaker 7: going to stop terrorism, you're going to stop your proxy wards,
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Speaker 7: you're not going to have a nuclear weapon that is
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Speaker 7: going to be this and virtually all of those leaders
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Speaker 7: yesterday when he laid that case out, we're very much
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Speaker 7: in support of that. And we already know that he
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Speaker 7: shut the houthis down. So I think the message is
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Speaker 7: loud and clear. The purpose, as stated, is for economic
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Speaker 7: and financial benefit to the United States, to get these
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Speaker 7: countries to invest in America somewhere and staggering some between
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Speaker 7: three and five trillion dollars.
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Speaker 1: That's the major purpose of it.
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Speaker 7: But certainly the strategic purposes of it cannot be denied.
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Speaker 2: There is a gamble here, though, isn't it. And this
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Speaker 2: is what's making Israel a bit nervous. That is, by
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Speaker 2: welcoming the new leader of Syria as a friend, praising him,
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Speaker 2: lifting all the sanctions on Syria, all that kind of stuff,
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Speaker 2: Syria will become more powerful. Israel doesn't want it to
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Speaker 2: become powerful. Katar is a sponsor of Framas it's now
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Speaker 2: tied in very closely with America and Saudi Arabia is
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Speaker 2: going to be the force in the Middle East, particularly
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Speaker 2: these weapons deals. That's not necessarily a big concern for Israel,
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Speaker 2: but it will lose its primacy. I'm just wondering, what
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Speaker 2: do you sense is the risk here? Is it an
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Speaker 2: upside for peace or is there still a danger this
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Speaker 2: could go wrong?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's some missions there.
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Speaker 7: Certainly you're pointed out one dealing with Syria and Al Sharah.
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Speaker 7: You know who's the new president of Syria is known
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Speaker 7: terrorist in the past. Al Hiro affiliated isis affiliated. He
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Speaker 7: claims to have changed his stripes. I do believe that
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Speaker 7: the sanctions probably don't make a lot of sense because
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Speaker 7: they were put on Syria when Asad's father was in
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Speaker 7: the regime and certainly when he carried on with his
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Speaker 7: barbaric reigned as well. And maybe a better way to
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Speaker 7: have handled it was to wait until this president changes
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Speaker 7: his behavior and you can actually have something to show
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Speaker 7: for it that's tangible in terms of a moderate regime
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Speaker 7: and not a radical regime. Israel has every right to
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Speaker 7: have security concerns here. They're right on their border and
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Speaker 7: they say, don't need another enemy to deal with, and
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Speaker 7: that's why they've established a buffer zone between the Goal
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Speaker 7: and Heights and the regime itself.
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Speaker 1: So we'll see what goes.
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Speaker 7: But in terms of the US support for Israel, despite
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Speaker 7: them not visiting them, I think is very solid now.
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Speaker 2: General Kin meanwhile, I think the Middle East initiative is
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Speaker 2: very exciting and on the whole positive with big risks.
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Speaker 2: Though the Trump administration's approach to Ukraine and Russia I
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Speaker 2: think is very problematic. Though. You've got Vladimir Putin refusing
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Speaker 2: now to fly to two today to talk peace with
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Speaker 2: Ukraine's president who dared him to come. He's instead sent
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Speaker 2: a very low level delegation, hitded by one of his aides,
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Speaker 2: a toady who thinks that Russians are superior because they
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Speaker 2: have an extra chrome zone. Where is all this going well?
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Speaker 7: I think this was thrown up there by Putin when
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Speaker 7: he saw the four leaders United Kingdom, France and Germany
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Speaker 7: and Poland in key supporting the regime so solidly in
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Speaker 7: terms of Ukraine's leadership, that got his attention with hours.
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Speaker 7: He was offering to do something he's never done before,
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Speaker 7: and that is had direct talks with the Ukrainians themselves.
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Speaker 1: I believe it was just a.
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Speaker 7: Stall, and I think Zelensky and Trump did the right
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Speaker 7: thing here and calling his bluff on it. As Zelenski says,
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Speaker 7: I'll be waiting for mister putin him and Putin in
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Speaker 7: Turkey to talk face to face with him, and obviously
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Speaker 7: he's not coming. He send him a deputy minister, which
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Speaker 7: shows you how I'm serious. They are just another step
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Speaker 7: in the direction of putting off a peace agreement, and
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Speaker 7: I think we're getting closer to the United States and
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Speaker 7: the Europeans slapping some pretty crippling sanctions on the Russians
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Speaker 7: at the same time continuing to aid Ukrainian with military equipment.
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Speaker 2: Well, if Trump does that, some of my deep concerns
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Speaker 2: about that policy, which initially was blaming Ukraine for everything,
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Speaker 2: will be easy there. Look, it's fascinating time, general history
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Speaker 2: being made in front of our eyes at warp speed.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much indeed for your time.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, Age, It's always great talking to you
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Speaker 1: and your warriors.
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Speaker 2: Back to the news I told you about at the
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Speaker 2: top of the show. The breakthrough in the investigation into
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Speaker 2: the firebombing of the Dash Synagogue in Melbourne, Police releasing
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Speaker 2: CCTV footage of the three men they are looking for
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Speaker 2: is Benjamin Klein was on the board of the Adash Synagogue. Benjamin,
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Speaker 2: great to see you again. How do you feel about
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Speaker 2: this footage finally being released?
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Speaker 8: Hi, Andrew, it's been some time coming. We've requested the
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Speaker 8: footage a few times from the police and they've assured
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Speaker 8: us it's fourth part of the investigation, but it's now
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Speaker 8: out in the open and we hope that it will
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Speaker 8: tuggle someone's memory and will help police towards an arrest.
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Speaker 2: I'm a little puzzled that they couldn't have released some
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Speaker 2: of it, particularly that bit. I mean, you know, it's
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Speaker 2: right outside the synagogue the CCTV camera, that they didn't
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Speaker 2: release it earlier, that might have assisted jogged some people's
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Speaker 2: memories a bit more. What did you make of that?
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Speaker 8: It's a good question, Adrew, and we we did speak
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Speaker 8: to police numerous times about it. They've been really incredible.
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Speaker 8: They've called us every single week. Once a week they
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Speaker 8: call us and Glastenn update from senior command. They assured
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Speaker 8: us that it's fourth part of the investigation, and they
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Speaker 8: were nervous about giving it out up until now, but
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Speaker 8: now there feels the time where they can get it
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Speaker 8: out and hopefully get a bit more information.
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Speaker 2: Now your synagogue is still unusable. I've been there, We've
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Speaker 2: been there together. How have you and the other worshipers
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Speaker 2: dealt with all this hostility, this loss of something so
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Speaker 2: prized to you as it brought you together, split you up.
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Speaker 2: What's it been.
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Speaker 8: Like, Andrew, It's been very difficult, being very traumatic. We've
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Speaker 8: obviously haven't got our home, haven't got our synagogue, the heart,
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Speaker 8: the jewel of the community, so we've had to improvise
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Speaker 8: and have other places where we can go and pray.
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Speaker 8: We've got separate places where we can go on Saturday
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Speaker 8: because we have a larger group. During the week we
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Speaker 8: have a separate place. So it's really quite unsettling and
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Speaker 8: difficult for the community not to have that base, not
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Speaker 8: to have a place together for events, for prayers, for
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Speaker 8: times to spend together. So, to be honest, very challenging.
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Speaker 2: And have you got any idea among you, particularly when
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Speaker 2: you see the footage, I mean the images of blurry
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Speaker 2: of the men involved. Is there any suggestion who these
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Speaker 2: people might be, any clue to their identity or motivation
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Speaker 2: or anything like that.
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Speaker 8: We had a meeting this morning at ten o'clock with
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Speaker 8: the police via zoom. They caught up with us and
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Speaker 8: we asked them that question. It doesn't seem like there's
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Speaker 8: any clue. They haven't shared any clues with us. We
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Speaker 8: don't know who it is, and like you said, they've
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Speaker 8: covered themselves up quite significantly difficult to tell. So this
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Speaker 8: stage just typical anti Semite. So for anybody to come
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Speaker 8: to a synagogue and put excelerant through and one hundred
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Speaker 8: liters of fuel to put into a synagogue, it's a
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Speaker 8: lot of accelerants. Five Jerry cans clearly quite deliberates, hateful,
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Speaker 8: very very scary.
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Speaker 2: At LISTA will put an end to those anti Semites
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Speaker 2: who were posting on x and else where that you
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Speaker 2: guys burnt your own synagogue. I think it's pretty clear
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Speaker 2: from this, absolutely crystal clear that that is just a lie.
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Speaker 8: It's true and what you are saying and hateful, scary
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Speaker 8: things what people are writing. In fact, I wish it
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Speaker 8: wasn't end to it. I saw today on ex people
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Speaker 8: commenting about you know, zionist burning it down and just
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Speaker 8: plain hate, which quite frankly does not belong in this
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Speaker 8: beautiful country. Australia is an amazing country, an amazing nation,
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Speaker 8: and this type of revolting, disgusting behavior is not appropriate.
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Speaker 2: Benjamin Klein, thank you so much for coming on the show,
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Speaker 2: and I wish you and the congregation all the best.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. After the break, the Greens have
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Speaker 2: a new leader and it does seem she's learned a
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Speaker 2: lesson from the hiding the Greens got. It seems that
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Speaker 2: they would like to do a bit more tree hugging.
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Speaker 2: The Greens have chosen a new leader, the hard eyed
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Speaker 2: Adam Band lost this seat at the election, replacing Band's
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Speaker 2: Queensland Senator Larissa Waters. She hasn't been as loud on
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Speaker 2: Palestine like some in the party, and from a speech
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Speaker 2: this afternoon it seemed Palistine wasn't now one of her
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Speaker 2: top priorities, even though Radical Green's members have been demanding
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Speaker 2: that it stays. So.
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Speaker 9: We need strong action on the climate, on nature, on
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Speaker 9: the housing crisis, on the cost of living crisis, and
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Speaker 9: we need our Parliament to work to actually meet the
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Speaker 9: needs of the people that it's been elected to represent
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Speaker 9: I will always work for nature and for the community
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Speaker 9: and to help people. This is about the people that
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Speaker 9: need our help and the planet that is slowly cooking.
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Speaker 2: I mean, the planet's slowly cooking. I mean, I just
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Speaker 2: sometimes wonder can they seriously believe this stuff? Anyway, Waters
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Speaker 2: did actually quickly mention Palistine a bit later, just once,
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Speaker 2: you know, accused Israel of genocide, even but she ditched
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Speaker 2: her watermeloniar's earrings and then she you know, that was it.
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Speaker 2: I mean other than that, she went on and on
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Speaker 2: about the climbing instead, which does suggest she has realized
23:18
Speaker 2: that the Greens got smashed at this election. Three lower
23:21
Speaker 2: House seats lost because they did get too politically extreme.
23:27
Speaker 2: I was joined a little early by scaring you, senior
23:29
Speaker 2: political reporter, truly macintosh. Trudy McIntosh, thank you so much
23:34
Speaker 2: for your time. Why do they pick Larissa Waters? Why
23:37
Speaker 2: not deputy leader Marine Feruki. I mean, if I was
23:41
Speaker 2: a Green, I'd say, well, that's racism. That's a racism
23:44
Speaker 2: against marine being, you know, from Pakistan. What is the
23:48
Speaker 2: real reason?
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Speaker 10: I think, ultimately this was a consensus choice of a
23:53
Speaker 10: party room of twelve. It's a small group of people,
23:56
Speaker 10: and there is factions amongst the Greens. They mightn't like
23:59
Speaker 10: to say that public, but in the end, Larissa wad
24:01
Speaker 10: is a steady hand, really a consensus choice to replace
24:04
Speaker 10: Adam Banter's leader. She's from Queensland, noting today the first
24:08
Speaker 10: Greens leader to come from that state, noting she's the
24:11
Speaker 10: second woman as well to lead the party. But I
24:13
Speaker 10: did detect a real shift from Adam Bant. The Greens
24:16
Speaker 10: have the sole balance of power in the Senate, so
24:18
Speaker 10: they will essentially decide the fate of the Albaneze government's
24:21
Speaker 10: legislative agenda. And she's made it clear today that she
24:25
Speaker 10: wants to work with the government, that yes, her approach
24:27
Speaker 10: will be different to that of Adam Bant. She acknowledges
24:30
Speaker 10: that today saying yes, I will take a different approach,
24:33
Speaker 10: that she wants to be quote firm but constructive.
24:36
Speaker 6: So if you're the Prime Minister.
24:37
Speaker 10: Watching on what the Greens are saying today, I think
24:40
Speaker 10: it's a good sign for him that things might actually
24:44
Speaker 10: get better in terms of the relationship with a minor
24:46
Speaker 10: party on its left flank that it actually needs in
24:49
Speaker 10: terms of getting things through Parliament.
24:50
Speaker 2: I wonder Trudy whether going to Marine Feruki would also
24:55
Speaker 2: be a red rag after what they've suffered, given that
24:59
Speaker 2: she is so militantly Millan, really militant about Palestine, about
25:04
Speaker 2: the racism of Australia. I think the Greens might be
25:07
Speaker 2: wanting something a little softer and gentler under Larissa Waters.
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Speaker 10: And there's probably two schools of thought within the Greens
25:15
Speaker 10: base about the best approach forward, whether to double down
25:18
Speaker 10: on that hard line approach, particularly how strident they were
25:22
Speaker 10: in not only attacking the Coalition on Israel but also
25:25
Speaker 10: the Albanese government, accusing the PM of being complicit in genocide.
25:29
Speaker 10: I note that Larissa Waters, yes, sticks by the policy,
25:33
Speaker 10: sticks by the support for Palestine today and calls out
25:37
Speaker 10: Israel's ongoing actions.
25:38
Speaker 6: But she didn't linger on it for long.
25:40
Speaker 10: She didn't use those same wording about being complicit in
25:42
Speaker 10: genocide and going after Anthony Albanesi directly. So I think
25:46
Speaker 10: there will be a shift in tone. The Greens do
25:48
Speaker 10: need to learn a lesson from what happened. They lost
25:50
Speaker 10: three of the seats and their leader in the lower House.
25:53
Speaker 10: They say that they are a Senate dominated party. Now
25:56
Speaker 10: that's been a long time the case for the Greens,
25:59
Speaker 10: but ultimately risk awards. If she wants to change that,
26:02
Speaker 10: might need to change the tone. It looks like she
26:04
Speaker 10: is doing that.
26:04
Speaker 2: More political fallout today Trudy. Andrew Hasty has been the
26:09
Speaker 2: coalition's defense spokesman. As a former SS captain fought in Afghanistan.
26:15
Speaker 2: I know that he was extremely frustrated when he was
26:18
Speaker 2: kept out of the election campaign until just ten days
26:23
Speaker 2: before voting, when only then did the coalition release the
26:28
Speaker 2: defense policy, which I thought should have been released before
26:30
Speaker 2: the election. He was very angry still today in my opinion,
26:35
Speaker 2: and quite rightly have litten.
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Speaker 1: The truth of it is that it was released much
26:40
Speaker 1: too late. It should have been released before the election.
26:45
Speaker 2: Now, truly, why was Andrew Hasty shut out of that
26:48
Speaker 2: election campaign? I mean, I've said during the campaign, how
26:52
Speaker 2: is extraordinary? That was? What were they so scared of?
26:58
Speaker 10: It just seems like so much of what went wrong
27:01
Speaker 10: came down to the centralization in Peter Dutton's office running
27:04
Speaker 10: this command and control campaign, keeping out shadow ministers. You know,
27:09
Speaker 10: if you're cynical, you could say part of this is
27:11
Speaker 10: about trying to keep away a potential leadership rival in
27:14
Speaker 10: Andrew Hasty. The reason that was often said at the
27:17
Speaker 10: time was well, there was those controversial comments about women
27:20
Speaker 10: in combat and that's why they didn't want him there.
27:23
Speaker 10: I think, as you say that on the lack of
27:25
Speaker 10: detail and defense policy was staggering to me that not
27:28
Speaker 10: only when they released it, they couldn't say where the
27:30
Speaker 10: money was going to be spent. This is a party
27:32
Speaker 10: that puts forward itself as someone who's prudent economic manager.
27:36
Speaker 10: If Labor did that, they would laugh them out of
27:38
Speaker 10: the room. I think there was a lot of big
27:40
Speaker 10: mistakes made within this Dutton campaign and they probably need
27:44
Speaker 10: to all do a bit of soul searching as to
27:45
Speaker 10: how it all went so wrong. But good on Andrew
27:47
Speaker 10: Hasty for being frank about this, and I think he
27:50
Speaker 10: is still a rising star in the party regardless of
27:52
Speaker 10: the fact that he didn't put his hand up this
27:53
Speaker 10: time around.
27:56
Speaker 2: I thought it was such a terrible mistake the Prime
27:59
Speaker 2: Minister and waste the time is in Indonesia today. I mean,
28:02
Speaker 2: I know people are having a crack at air bus
28:04
Speaker 2: elbow again, but I think it's fair enough that it's
28:06
Speaker 2: come to Indonesia talking business and Trudy is talking finally
28:11
Speaker 2: about something he didn't want to talk about it all
28:13
Speaker 2: during the campaign, try to avoid it. Russia asking Indonesia
28:17
Speaker 2: to let it base some of its military aircraft right there.
28:21
Speaker 2: Have looked we'll be raised Russia as.
28:25
Speaker 11: I'll meet with miss with President Praboo shortly and I
28:30
Speaker 11: look forward to the one on one discussion.
28:31
Speaker 2: But so it turns out Russia is an issue after all.
28:34
Speaker 10: Trudy, Yeah, this was always an issue in the election campaign,
28:38
Speaker 10: a tricky one for the Prime Minister in labor.
28:40
Speaker 6: To try and deal with it. Did not want to
28:41
Speaker 6: get into it at all.
28:42
Speaker 10: I was at some of these press conferences, any back
28:44
Speaker 10: and forth about the timing when the government was given
28:47
Speaker 10: advanced notice if it was given advanced notice. As the
28:49
Speaker 10: reporting in The Australian has subsequently confirmed, this is one
28:54
Speaker 10: of those issues that the Prime Minister just doesn't want
28:56
Speaker 10: to get back to. It was always going to be raised,
28:57
Speaker 10: though on this first trip back to Indonesia.
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Speaker 6: It's a tricky one for US, isn't it.
29:01
Speaker 10: We don't clearly want Russia to have a military presence
29:04
Speaker 10: right on our doorstep, but how much sway do we
29:07
Speaker 10: have If this becomes a big domestic political issue, It's
29:10
Speaker 10: probably more likely to get resolved if with some behind
29:12
Speaker 10: the scenes diplomacy, and I'm sure they would have had
29:14
Speaker 10: a behind the scenes conversation about it today in this
29:17
Speaker 10: a lot of pomp and circumstance, hasn't the Purban ceremony,
29:20
Speaker 10: I should say?
29:21
Speaker 2: In Indonesia, well, I think also the character of Provo Silbianto,
29:26
Speaker 2: the president is not such that if you said something
29:29
Speaker 2: to him and he perceived it to be an order,
29:33
Speaker 2: that he would react well at all at all. So
29:36
Speaker 2: you've got to be very careful the treaty. Macintosh, thank
29:39
Speaker 2: you so much for your time.
29:42
Speaker 6: Thanks Andrew.
29:43
Speaker 2: After the break the ABC host who insulted his co host,
29:48
Speaker 2: why are they still together on air? They wouldn't be
29:50
Speaker 2: here now. The ABC talks a big game about sexism
29:59
Speaker 2: and you know, let's he woke, but they walk something
30:02
Speaker 2: very different. Yesterday and Melbourne ABC Radio's breakfast show, one host,
30:06
Speaker 2: former AFL star Bob Murphy told an insulting and sexist
30:11
Speaker 2: joke about his co host Chanelle Vella when they were interviewing,
30:15
Speaker 2: of all things, an accountant. He suggested Vella's first job
30:19
Speaker 2: had been at an infamous Melbourne strip club, and today
30:23
Speaker 2: came this groveling apology and a very frosty reception.
30:29
Speaker 12: I promised Charnelle that I'd never disrespect her, and I
30:33
Speaker 12: did break that promise.
30:34
Speaker 1: Put simply, I'm really sorry.
30:37
Speaker 6: It's oko.
30:38
Speaker 12: I won't let you off the hook on it.
30:39
Speaker 13: It wasn't okay.
30:42
Speaker 11: I appreciate you your words, but we do move on.
30:48
Speaker 2: John Ms the panel, Evelyn Ray Farmer, former policewoman and
30:52
Speaker 2: Sky News regular, and James McPherson from the late debate
30:55
Speaker 2: here on Sky News. Evelyn, I would bet you two things.
31:00
Speaker 2: If a host here at sky and you said that
31:01
Speaker 2: about his female co host, one, he'd be sacked the two.
31:06
Speaker 2: At the very minimum, he'd be banned from working again
31:10
Speaker 2: with that co host because just for a start, let
31:13
Speaker 2: alone the insult, how could they have on air chemistry
31:18
Speaker 2: and trust? After that? Has the ABC called this wrong?
31:23
Speaker 12: Look, I'm absolutely no supporter of cancel culture, even if
31:28
Speaker 12: I so desire it, desire it regarding the ABC, But look,
31:32
Speaker 12: I don't like cancel culture, not because it's fake outrage
31:36
Speaker 12: is so often directed at things that were totally normal
31:39
Speaker 12: yesterday Morning, Andrew, but I also don't like it just
31:42
Speaker 12: because of how blatantly selective that it is you're one
31:46
Speaker 12: hundred percent right. There is absolutely no way that anyone
31:50
Speaker 12: here at sky News or anyone right of Stalin would
31:54
Speaker 12: get away with this sort of comment. You know, they
31:56
Speaker 12: would absolutely pounce on it. They are hungry and thirsty
32:00
Speaker 12: and out for blood. But you know, this is kind
32:03
Speaker 12: of how the game works. It's a weapon exclusively used
32:07
Speaker 12: and wielded against the right, while the left evidently is
32:11
Speaker 12: immune to this. And you know what, I think we've
32:13
Speaker 12: been stupid enough to, you know, go along with this game.
32:16
Speaker 12: And you know, I think often, you know, we scratch
32:19
Speaker 12: our heads going why is it that they're you know, kind.
32:22
Speaker 14: Of not holding their own to their own standards.
32:25
Speaker 12: But I like to remind myself Andrew that this was
32:29
Speaker 12: never about elevating public standards, because let's face it, if
32:34
Speaker 12: they didn't have double standards, they would have absolutely no
32:38
Speaker 12: standards at all.
32:41
Speaker 2: But I have to say, James, I've been evilyent. Makes
32:44
Speaker 2: a point about canceled culture, But for me, there's also
32:48
Speaker 2: that's that's that's one thing, but there's also this point
32:52
Speaker 2: that you're supposed to be an only a team. I
32:55
Speaker 2: mean you with Anika for instance, on sky News, You're
32:59
Speaker 2: suppose me an on Air teen. You've got to be
33:02
Speaker 2: at least you assume of friendliness. You've got to welcome
33:05
Speaker 2: people into your friendship. How can you do that when
33:10
Speaker 2: you just heard how it is between the two of them.
33:13
Speaker 13: Yeah, you raise a good point, Andrew, and I guess
33:16
Speaker 13: we've got to trust that the female co host in
33:19
Speaker 13: that situation has obviously been okay with the relationship to continue.
33:23
Speaker 13: If she was not well, then the ABC would have
33:26
Speaker 13: an issue, wouldn't they, And they would need to act
33:28
Speaker 13: as far as the whole episode goes. I've got to
33:30
Speaker 13: say I'm with Evelyn on this. He made a joke.
33:34
Speaker 13: It wasn't funny. Not only was it not funny, it
33:36
Speaker 13: wasn't appropriate, But he apologized. And I don't think we
33:40
Speaker 13: want a world where someone loses their job because they
33:43
Speaker 13: made an errant comment, even if it was deeply inappropriate.
33:47
Speaker 13: I think we want to move on. Otherwise we create
33:49
Speaker 13: a world in which no one's game to say anything
33:53
Speaker 13: for fear of a slip of a tongue. The funny
33:55
Speaker 13: thing about Bob Murphy, of course, is he's been accused
33:57
Speaker 13: of being so woke that he won't call the AFL
34:00
Speaker 13: the AFL. He calls it the afl M for men
34:05
Speaker 13: to distinguish it from the afl W for women. So
34:09
Speaker 13: that's the kind of persona he's got. And then he
34:12
Speaker 13: goes and makes this clanger about the strip clubs, So
34:14
Speaker 13: you know, there you go.
34:18
Speaker 2: What is it's?
34:19
Speaker 1: This?
34:19
Speaker 2: Is the Worke Rules really just a game? Is it
34:22
Speaker 2: a series of trip wise or a genuine moral conversion?
34:26
Speaker 2: House that question, Evelyn. During the election campaign, the Prome
34:31
Speaker 2: Minister used a lot of podcasts and social media influences
34:35
Speaker 2: to get out his message. He even paid for some to
34:38
Speaker 2: come to cover the budget, pay for their expenses, and
34:42
Speaker 2: the friendlier the better, like Avid Chackfield from shows like
34:45
Speaker 2: The Bachelor.
34:48
Speaker 15: So I'd love to know what is the difference in policies?
34:51
Speaker 1: Just some examples between the Coalition and.
34:54
Speaker 11: Labor well right across the board, there's massive difference. We
34:58
Speaker 11: believe in taking our on climate change and see this
35:01
Speaker 11: an opportunity. They want to delay action till the twenty forties,
35:06
Speaker 11: and they have this nuclear fantasy.
35:08
Speaker 1: We'll get that album.
35:10
Speaker 11: They're opposed to renewables.
35:13
Speaker 2: Nodding away to all these righteous causes. The question is
35:16
Speaker 2: are these influential mouthpieces he chooses held to the same
35:21
Speaker 2: standards and given the same scrutiny as us in the
35:23
Speaker 2: more traditional media evidence because, for instance, when Chatfield then
35:27
Speaker 2: goes to the smear on the new Liberal leader Susan.
35:30
Speaker 15: Lee Combo being racist and the leader of the Conservative Party,
35:38
Speaker 15: get also that into numerology, because the thing is, if
35:42
Speaker 15: you're going to be woo wu, live the woo woo.
35:45
Speaker 2: Check also her hypocrisy, because this is how this same
35:48
Speaker 2: maybe Chatfield reacted when another left wing podcaster gave her
35:52
Speaker 2: a bit of criticism herself.
35:55
Speaker 15: Stop lying about my character and my attentions, please top
36:01
Speaker 15: dehumanizing me.
36:02
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to do what I can to help.
36:09
Speaker 2: So the question is, Evelyn, what kind of influences is
36:12
Speaker 2: ALBINIZI hanging out with to get his message across to
36:15
Speaker 2: what kind of moron's supposed to be listening to them?
36:19
Speaker 12: My goodness, isn't the left just an insatiable beast?
36:22
Speaker 14: It just spares no one, doesn't it They eat their own?
36:26
Speaker 12: But look, I actually doubt Albanize even knew who Abby
36:29
Speaker 12: Chatfield actually was, and I reckon it was some young
36:33
Speaker 12: staffer that he's hired to organize it all in an
36:35
Speaker 12: attempt to sort of make him appear more relatable. I
36:38
Speaker 12: reckon it's the same person that dressed him in skinny jeans,
36:41
Speaker 12: and then the same person that organized that awful Valentine's
36:46
Speaker 12: Dale Instagram reel. I don't know if you remember that,
36:48
Speaker 12: but I'm I have a bit of vomit at the
36:50
Speaker 12: back of my throne remembering it.
36:51
Speaker 14: That cringe, you know, sort of marketing stunt from him.
36:55
Speaker 12: But let's be honest, none of this was about political discourse, abolutely,
37:00
Speaker 12: none of this was about truly getting to the bottom
37:03
Speaker 12: of political ideology between.
37:05
Speaker 14: The two major parties.
37:07
Speaker 12: It was a shameless stunt by the Labor Party purely
37:11
Speaker 12: to appeal to those gen z TikTokers who get their
37:15
Speaker 12: entire political discourse from a thirty second video that they
37:18
Speaker 12: find on the Internet.
37:19
Speaker 14: But Andrew, let's not get too you know, pessimistic about this.
37:23
Speaker 12: There is hope because the silver ligning to all of
37:26
Speaker 12: this is that when these kids that like these sorts
37:29
Speaker 12: of podcasts and all these little TikTokers, once they graduate
37:33
Speaker 12: from their taxpayer funded university degrees, they're going to have
37:37
Speaker 12: to enter the real world. They're going to have to
37:39
Speaker 12: pay real taxes and you know, be faced with reality
37:42
Speaker 12: and I tell you what, when they are faced with that,
37:45
Speaker 12: they become right wing real quick.
37:49
Speaker 2: Well that hasn't happened to her yet, but James, it
37:52
Speaker 2: is interesting. I mean if someone, if someone was famous
37:56
Speaker 2: on the ABC or whatever, you know, the Guardian for
38:01
Speaker 2: carrying on like a pork choplight that absolutely a prime
38:06
Speaker 2: minister would think twice before lowering themselves to actually, you know,
38:11
Speaker 2: use them as a way of getting his message out.
38:13
Speaker 2: But it seems to be different rules for podcasters and
38:17
Speaker 2: look at that. That's incredible, Andrew.
38:20
Speaker 13: I think you hold our prime minister in far too
38:22
Speaker 13: much esteem. I think the Prime minister he's not above
38:27
Speaker 13: cheapening political debate if it works to his advantage, and
38:30
Speaker 13: it did on TikTok he got four point nine million
38:34
Speaker 13: views compared to Dutton's one point two million views and
38:38
Speaker 13: they won the youth vote. So Anthony Albaneze he doesn't
38:42
Speaker 13: care who he hangs out with as long as it's
38:43
Speaker 13: to his advantage and it helps him win power, and
38:46
Speaker 13: it did. The problem is we all pay the price because,
38:49
Speaker 13: as I said, it cheapens the political discourse. Abby Chatfield
38:53
Speaker 13: becomes the political conduit through which our young people hear
38:57
Speaker 13: messages about the future of our nation. That does bode
39:00
Speaker 13: well for anybody, except, as I said, Anthony Albanezi, who's
39:04
Speaker 13: now in the lodge.
39:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I want to pick up something that Evelyn said,
39:10
Speaker 2: they're James, because she says, you know, you know, she
39:14
Speaker 2: vomited quietly with some of the really naff things that
39:18
Speaker 2: he did, you know, trying to be cool with the kids.
39:20
Speaker 2: But the point I think James is that a politician
39:24
Speaker 2: who does that is telling the voters they'll do anything
39:27
Speaker 2: for the vote that the voters want. And I think
39:30
Speaker 2: the ultimate turn off of voters is a politician that
39:34
Speaker 2: won't do that. That sounds like, you know, they're lecturing them,
39:38
Speaker 2: they're hearing a god that other people don't hear. They're
39:41
Speaker 2: marching to a you know, their own arrogant sort of agenda.
39:45
Speaker 2: And the more relatable or the more you know someone's
39:48
Speaker 2: puppet you've seen, the safer you've seem as well. And
39:51
Speaker 2: I think that's helped him, don't you.
39:54
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think you're right. I mean, he played this
39:56
Speaker 13: whole election very very well as compared to pe to Dutton,
40:00
Speaker 13: who to me seemed to be very very managed, and
40:03
Speaker 13: I would have thought it was the other way around.
40:05
Speaker 13: But Albanezey came off as likable and relatable, even though
40:09
Speaker 13: we all knew he was trying so hard to be
40:11
Speaker 13: likable and relatable.
40:15
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's the message there. Albaneze might have
40:18
Speaker 2: won some votes by saying I'm so desperate for your vote.
40:21
Speaker 2: I will even talk to Abby Chatfield, Evan Ray, James
40:25
Speaker 2: Wan firston. Thank you very much to you both. After
40:29
Speaker 2: the break, Patrick Christie's meets an illegal immigrant who says,
40:33
Speaker 2: give me your house, give me all you got because
40:36
Speaker 2: I want it. It's amazing. Have a look after this
40:42
Speaker 2: Thursday's normally talked to Patrick Christie's, a host that Britain's
40:46
Speaker 2: GBN News, and I saw that Patrick had just gone
40:49
Speaker 2: to France to Calais, just over the English Channel to
40:53
Speaker 2: visit the tent camps were illegal immigrants, mostly from Africa,
40:57
Speaker 2: stay while they wait for a boat to uglem into Britain. Well,
41:02
Speaker 2: Patrick Shaw found a real sense of entitlement among some
41:05
Speaker 2: of them.
41:07
Speaker 16: I should English people pay for you to have a house?
41:15
Speaker 1: Ah?
41:17
Speaker 13: Maybe maybe they're giving me how they give me anything
41:22
Speaker 13: I need the give me just get it?
41:25
Speaker 1: Yeah?
41:26
Speaker 6: Why because it's people?
41:29
Speaker 1: Because people are England is perfect.
41:32
Speaker 16: Oh so you think we're so we're you think we're
41:34
Speaker 16: all with you think we're all rich people, so we
41:37
Speaker 16: can give Okay.
41:40
Speaker 2: Joining me is Patrick Christie's Patrick, a very enterprising report
41:46
Speaker 2: from you. I've seen the whole thing. That is some
41:49
Speaker 2: insight you got there.
41:52
Speaker 1: Well, it is really the whole thing. Actually.
41:54
Speaker 16: So there are thousands and thousands and thousands of people
41:57
Speaker 16: queuing up in northern France trying to get to Britain.
42:01
Speaker 16: Every single day. They're split into a variety of different camps.
42:04
Speaker 16: The one that you just saw there was a warehouse
42:07
Speaker 16: full of men from Sue Dan and that individual is
42:11
Speaker 16: of the view that if you can get to Britain,
42:13
Speaker 16: it's a land of milk and honey, where the streets
42:15
Speaker 16: are paved with gold, and that everything is just on offer.
42:19
Speaker 16: It is quite eye opening, that really, And you know,
42:21
Speaker 16: I don't like talking my country down, but I do
42:24
Speaker 16: wonder whether or not we should be doing a little
42:26
Speaker 16: bit of negative pr about ourselves in these camps, okay
42:30
Speaker 16: and telling them actually it's not.
42:34
Speaker 1: You don't just get a house here. And the problem
42:37
Speaker 1: is for a lot of them they do.
42:38
Speaker 16: I suppose maybe that guy, you know, that guy might
42:41
Speaker 16: have seemed a bit cheeky there, but the reality is
42:44
Speaker 16: not far off being accurate about what you do get
42:47
Speaker 16: if you break in.
42:50
Speaker 2: Can I just so pick up something you said there
42:53
Speaker 2: the warehouse and the results that you went through. Camps
42:56
Speaker 2: in the forest as will full of young men. Normally,
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Speaker 2: if there's a refugee issue, it'll be women and children
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Speaker 2: the whole lot. You don't just leave the women and
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Speaker 2: children in danger if you were a man with any honor.
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Speaker 2: But men were they many women?
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Speaker 16: No, there were a few, and there were a few children,
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Speaker 16: but it was like ninety five percent men. And I
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Speaker 16: spoke to one man from Eritrea who left his wife there,
43:24
Speaker 16: and I was chusting way to him, and I said
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Speaker 16: to him, look, if Eritrea is so bad, why did
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Speaker 16: you leave your wife? And he didn't really have an
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Speaker 16: answer for that. And then I said, how are you
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Speaker 16: continually paying for the small boat crossings because they fail
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Speaker 16: often so they have to keep paying. And he said, oh,
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Speaker 16: he calls back to Eritrea and his mum and dad
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Speaker 16: send him the money. I said, You'll hang on a minute.
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Speaker 16: You know, are you really fleeing war here or do
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Speaker 16: you just want to have a better life in Britain.
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Speaker 16: It is quite remarkable. The other thing to point out, Andrew,
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Speaker 16: is that because of the location there, in the geography
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Speaker 16: of it, a lot of those people have been through six, seven,
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Speaker 16: maybe eight of the count and for whatever reason, they
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Speaker 16: haven't been able to make a life for themselves there,
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Speaker 16: and so you have to think, why is that and
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Speaker 16: what does that mean about the kind of caliber of
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Speaker 16: individual that we would be accepting here.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, you know, it's a natural instinct to
44:14
Speaker 2: want to bit of your life, but there is a
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Speaker 2: difference in how I'd react to someone actually fleeing through
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Speaker 2: their life and someone just wanting more money, and particularly
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Speaker 2: someone else's money. How many illegal immigrants do you think
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Speaker 2: are waiting there in France to sail off to Britain.
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Speaker 1: Thousands?
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Speaker 16: Okay, so absolutely thousands. I was just on one little
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Speaker 16: strip of what is about seventy two mile long coastline,
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Speaker 16: and every where you looked, as far as the eye
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Speaker 16: could see, were people either milling about in the street,
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Speaker 16: intent encampments or just in warehouses like I just said
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Speaker 16: there and the other eye opening factor for me was
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Speaker 16: what has become normal for French citizens living in that area.
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Speaker 16: So it is totally normal for them to go to
44:59
Speaker 16: do their weekly sh shop at a supermarket and to
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Speaker 16: have police with guns and dogs, aggressive Alsatian type dogs
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Speaker 16: patrolling the supermarket, to have buses full of people from
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Speaker 16: too illegal migrants basically just a bus stop near there,
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Speaker 16: coming in trying to steal the food, running off to
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Speaker 16: a camp. All of these things that I found quite
45:19
Speaker 16: shocking to see for myself for the first time. And
45:22
Speaker 16: the French people are just walking around, going about the
45:24
Speaker 16: daily business like they don't even notice it anymore. And
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Speaker 16: I actually thought it was quite concerning that it's become normalized,
45:31
Speaker 16: and I don't think I really want that here in Britain.
45:35
Speaker 2: It's weird and a French are only too glad. I
45:37
Speaker 2: guess that they keep moving on to Britain. You also
45:42
Speaker 2: talk to an AID worker over there, helping them in
45:45
Speaker 2: their journey to Britain. I was struck by his reply
45:48
Speaker 2: to you have look.
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Speaker 16: You understand why people are concerned though when they see reports,
45:53
Speaker 16: and they are genuinely reports. This isn't just scare mongering
45:56
Speaker 16: of people who are unfortunately murderers or terrorists rapist who
45:59
Speaker 16: have come across the Channel.
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Speaker 13: I've been doing this ten years, I've never met a
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Speaker 13: murderer a rapist.
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Speaker 16: Well they might not admit so, well, he's never met them.
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Speaker 2: But as you told him, would they actually tell you
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Speaker 2: they were rapists and murderers? But do you actually get
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Speaker 2: murderers another criminals sailing into Britain?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we have had it.
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Speaker 16: We've had numerous different court cases recently as well, unfortunately
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Speaker 16: that have been linked to terrorist groups and terrorist organizations.
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Speaker 1: I mean, sexual assault is.
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Speaker 16: The is the big one they're unfortunately that that aid
46:31
Speaker 16: worker conversation there is actually part of a much bigger
46:34
Speaker 16: interview and I found it incredibly revealing. So you know,
46:38
Speaker 16: he said to me, oh, well we've got you know,
46:39
Speaker 16: we've got pedophiles in Britain for example, said we don't
46:43
Speaker 16: need any more, do we? And then you know and
46:46
Speaker 16: all of this, I said. He said, oh, you don't
46:48
Speaker 16: know if any of these people are wrong. I said, no,
46:50
Speaker 16: that's right. I don't know if any of them are wrong,
46:52
Speaker 16: but neither do you, and you're helping to try to
46:54
Speaker 16: facilitate getting them into Britain. I just find that a
46:57
Speaker 16: very very bizarre mindset really from a lot of those people,
47:02
Speaker 16: and for a long time in Britain. We have been
47:04
Speaker 16: saying that we think that there is a very fine
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Speaker 16: line a rizzler paper, a cigarette paper between being an
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Speaker 16: AID worker over there and actually helping to facilitate the
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Speaker 16: trade illegally of people across the English Channel and break
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Speaker 16: them into Britain.
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Speaker 1: I do find it.
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Speaker 16: I find it incredibly incredibly eye opening. There was also
47:25
Speaker 16: a touch of more than a touch progressional at one
47:27
Speaker 16: of the camps, I must say, and it did make
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Speaker 16: me think, you know, do we necessarily really want these
47:31
Speaker 16: people coming into Britain.
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Speaker 2: Fascinating report, Patrick Petrick Christis, thank you for your time.
47:41
Speaker 2: And one last thing that Donald Trump is now at
47:44
Speaker 2: an airbase in Qatar about to fly to UA. It's
47:48
Speaker 2: a great airbase. I've been there myself. The American airbase
47:51
Speaker 2: is the military ones. They do canteens like you've never
47:55
Speaker 2: seen in your life, dancing away to the music. There
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Speaker 2: have look.
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Speaker 17: That I'm round with me an American where it is
48:08
Speaker 17: kind of r and won forgets the men who died again.
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Speaker 2: He's got some energy and before I go, honestly, look,
48:20
Speaker 2: I didn't go to grade school, so I missed the
48:23
Speaker 2: classical education in poetry, so I'm not big on poetry.
48:27
Speaker 2: But I have to say these days, one poem keeps
48:30
Speaker 2: coming back to me. That's so our time, Yates, The
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Speaker 2: Second coming just after World War One, things fall apart,
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Speaker 2: The center cannot hold mere. Anarchy is loose upon the world,
48:41
Speaker 2: The blood dimmed tide is loose, and everywhere the ceremony
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Speaker 2: of innostance is drowned. The best lack all conviction, while
48:48
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Speaker 2: That's it from me. Show max A Knicks, good Night,