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The Weather of 2026 with Astrologer Liz Gunn · Remember Why You Are Here

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  It's really about living so in the now that what you need to know,
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  when you need to know it, happens as it arises,
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  not a moment too soon or a moment too late,
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  which is about being in presence with a capital "P.".
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  Hello and welcome back to Remember Why You Are Here,
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  a podcast for seekers and sensitives where you can relax, receive,
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  reconnect to yourself, and remember the most important thing of all:
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  why you're here. I'm Asia Suler, author, Earth Intuitive,
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  teacher,
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  and today I'm so excited because I get to sit with an
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  incredible astrologer, someone who I've known now for over 10 years,
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  the amazing Liz Gunn. So Liz,
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  I'm going to read your official bio first,
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  and then I want to talk a little bit about how I know you and who you are in
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  this community, because you're such a pillar here.
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  Oh, thank you.
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  Yeah. Okay. I have it written down:
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  Liz Gunn is an intuitive astrologer and channel with over 35 years of practical
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  application as a skilled translator of planetary influences. Based in Asheville,
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  North Carolina, with a dedicated client base both locally and internationally,
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  Liz has facilitated over 5,000 client readings and connected with hundreds more
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  through her small group gatherings and public talks.
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  Her readings specialize in shifting your perceptions in order to see the gift in
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  life's challenges.
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  Liz is especially committed to cultivating self-awareness through
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  self-acceptance within the LGBTQIA community,
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  and offers uncommon wisdom that will inspire you to find faith and meaning in
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  your own story. So yeah, as I mentioned before,
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  Liz, I've known you now for over 10 years,
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  so you've seen me through different iterations in my life.
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  You are such a prized community elder.
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  And I say this with just the fullness of my heart:
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  the groups that I run in, the people that I know,
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  everyone's like, "Oh, I'm having a hard time.
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  I wanna call Liz." Or I literally was at a gathering the other week and someone
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  was like, "I wasn't going to come. I was in such a hard place.
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  But then I had a reading with Liz and now here I am.".
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  Wow.
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  And so yeah,
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  you really are someone who has uplifted our
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  community in so many ways, someone who we look to as an elder.
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  And I'm just so grateful to you for what you're holding down in this community.
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  You are also the mother of one of my friends,
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  someone who's become my friend actually, really, since actually meeting you.
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  I met you first in a lot of ways. I was connecting with you in that way.
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  But yeah,
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  so you are just such an emblem to me of what it means to be an
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  elder astrologer and someone who, as an elder,
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  shows us what it's like too to keep evolving. And that's huge.
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  And so I'm so grateful
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  that you are willing to come onto the podcast and share your wisdom
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  and your channeling really for
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  what's in the air stepping into 2026.
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  Well, thank you. And thank you for saying that because honestly, I feel like I,
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  over the last 15 or so years of doing this work full-time in Asheville,
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  I don't think that I know how known I
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  am because I never leave the house because I'm always doing readings.
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  And so it means a lot to have that reflection just
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  from the sort of threshold that I'm crossing, and that affirmation,
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  because every time someone contacts me for a reading, I say, "Well,
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  how did you hear about my work?" And I've had people say, "What do you mean?
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  How did I hear about your work?".
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  You're like, "Everybody knows.".
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  So I forget that because I just feel like I'm always just opening the door and
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  inviting people in or turning Zoom on since 2020, and inviting people in,
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  and just being in that commitment and kind
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  of...not that I forget the impact,
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  but I just am always in the container.
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  Yeah. Well, yeah, you are having a huge impact. And yeah,
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  what you said too is reminding me of even just the reality of like,
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  in the constellation of our community,
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  you are literally that elder,
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  wise witch who has the beautiful home that you show up to,
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  you knock on the door like, "Please help me.
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  " You show up to and wander in and you leave being like, "Oh my gosh,
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  I can't believe how much better I feel.
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  Wow.
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  How helped I was.".
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  Yeah. I feel like in a nutshell,
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  I'm really good at helping people feel really good about the really hard things
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  happening in their life.
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  Which is what we need basically to keep going. So thank you for that.
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  You're so welcome. Thank you.
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  Okay. So I'm curious as we get started,
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  because this is just such a fun thing to tune into for people,
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  what is your sun moon and rising?
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  I'm a sun sign Taurus. I am a cancer rising.
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  And a moon in Sagittarius.
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  Mmmm. We have that in common. So yes,
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  I am a cancer sun.
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  I am a Leo rising and I also have my moon in Taurus.
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  Yes. And our moon and our sun and Taurus are hanging out very closely together.
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  I love that. And now we're hanging out really closely together. Perfect. Yes.
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  Okay. So we talked a little bit before we started and we were both like,
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  "We don't know where we're going to go.
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  Let's see where we get taken." But I knew I wanted to start with this question,
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  so we're going to start here and then we'll just see where we go.
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  Okay.
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  So the question is,
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  if you had to describe the energetic weather of this year in just a few
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  words, what would you say?
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  Oh gosh. Well, I'll try to describe it in a few words.
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  And yesterday when I was sitting with that question and
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  tuning in in the way that I do to get the answer so that the answer is not
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  coming from my front mind,
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  this analogy came to me and it was...
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  I don't know if you've ever read the book Stardust by Neil Gayman.
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  I haven't.
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  I know there's controversy around him that I'll acknowledge and we'll just set
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  that over here, whatever. But the book I read maybe a year ago,
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  and that felt like the download for the answer to that question.
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  And so just quickly,
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  it's a young adult, but I love that,
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  fantasy fairytale.
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  Yes, all those things.
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  It's all those things.
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  And it's set in 19th century England in this fictional town
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  called Wall.
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  And the reason that the town is called Wall is because there is this stone wall
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  that runs on the edge of town and the wall is the border to the
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  fairy world, the fairyland.
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  And there's this main character, Tristan Thorne,
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  who every nine years-which is so interesting because that's a nodal opposition
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  cycle,
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  where karmic influences kind of are brought to light-but every nine years,
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  there's a market behind the wall where humans are allowed to go to the fairy
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  market. And so it's kind of this...
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  when I think about the energetic weather for the year,
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  I feel like it's this moment where we're all going through the wall into the
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  fairy world. And in my version of the reality,
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  that would be the cosmic galactic world as well.
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  So this merging of inner dimensional reality. But in the book,
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  Stardust,
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  the reason it's called that is because Tristan doesn't know that he's actually
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  half fairy and was birthed 18 years prior to him going through the wall,
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  which is... 18.6 years,
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  I believe is like a full nodal cycle when we have these [Kutz?] patterns return.
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  But in the book,
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  he's professing his love to this woman and they see a star fall.
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  So she rejects... kind of rejects him and he says,
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  "If I bring back the fallen star, will you marry me?
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  " So he goes on the quest through the wall to find the fallen star,
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  only to fall in love with the star once he finds her.
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  And so the stardust theme to me is, for the year, is that we...
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  it's like we are going to have access to
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  the stardust that lives inside the molecular magic of our bodies. Because
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  we think about the planets out there, at least the paradigm...
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  not that I think that,
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  but I know the paradigm thinks the planets out there are moving and causing
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  things to happen, but really we are that same stardust.
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  So it's not causing anything to happen.
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  It's that we are responding as if we are the stars and planets themselves and
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  learning how to discern who's talking is something that I love to
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  talk about.
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  Yeah.
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  So the energetic theme of the year is,
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  I think each one of us are going to encounter facets of our own
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  stardust essence and bring that into form, into actualization,
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  into expression. So that was what I got for the theme.
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  Okay. I'm here for that. And what like... so in that theme, I'm so curious,
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  what do you feel like is the wall? Like what... that wall that's been there,
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  what is that? If that's like.
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  What is the wall?
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  Yeah, if we're going beyond the wall...
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  Fear. The wall is our fear, our own ...
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  Earth is a place of limitation and designed that way for our
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  benefit, but everything expresses kind of ... We're in Saturn territory.
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  So here we are. But I just... yeah,
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  I feel like part of the experience of duality and being
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  in this world of
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  limitation is to really lean into the
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  discomfort of our fear in order to be able to... not break through,
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  although there is a breakthrough quality of energy for the year with Uranus,
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  but kind of to find
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  the opening that is our sort of personal passageway into that
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  realm.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, so tell me what's going on with Uranus,
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  what's happening with that sphere?
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  So I love the outer planets, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto.
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  And I was saying this yesterday to our mutual friend,
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  that people talk about the big three being the sun, moon and rising.
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  And for me and how I have been oriented to
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  my relationship with the planets and the planetary beings is the big three to me
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  are Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto.
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  Mmm!
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  Because they connect to these long arcs of evolutionary
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  time, which is what I'm interested in,
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  is how the soul evolves through time and in a long...
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  kind of like the long calendar of the Mayans. And Uranus,
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  for how I work with Uranus,
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  is the catalytic impulse of the soul to evolve.
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  So there's this circuitry from Uranus.
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  And Uranus is moving from its seven year stay in
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  Taurus,
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  which is a very different quality of energy that we kind of danced with
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  for a minute when Uranus went into Gemini on July 7th briefly before it
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  retrograded back. But on April 26th, 2026,
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  it'll move into Gemini full-time.
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  And it's going to be in this conversation with Pluto that humanity has never had
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  an experience of: the quality of conversation between Pluto and Uranus'
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  sign, Aquarius (being the modern ruler. Saturn is the ancient ruler).
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  But yeah,
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  it's a very galactic fast moving transmission.
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  Tell me more about Pluto too.
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  Now that I know they're going to be in conversation,
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  what's the energy that Pluto...
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  So
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  Pluto takes close to 250 years to do a full rotation
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  around the sun. It's far out.
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  It's a very slow orbit. And that is where,
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  for me, Pluto is kind of my
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  BFF, but it's taken a long time.
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  I was going to say, that must have taken some work.
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  With Pluto, I think we first get the knock from Pluto and then
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  shut the door,
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  turn out the lights and put a bookcase against the door and be really quiet.
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  Yeah.
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  And but Pluto has this quality of power and energy and force
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  that
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  is inherently designed in our molecular wiring
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  to alchemize and transmute and transform and bring us
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  through the continuum around power themes,
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  from the love of power to the power of love.
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  So we're moving into a quality of energy that connects to the power of love in a
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  broader way, connected to community, humanitarian, egalitarian,
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  all the new paradigm energies that are wanting to be birthed out of the fracture
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  and collapse of the patriarchal paradigm. So Pluto in Capricorn,
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  from 2008 until November 19th, 2024,
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  was really highlighting,
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  illuminating, through all the ways we know that that's happened...
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  It's like the shadows of our consciousness, of our cultures,
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  of our reality, of our communities, now have a light shining on them.
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  And there's been this permission slip for a lot of really bad behavior.
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  And I feel like the Pluto Uranus trine, which is this harmonious aspect,
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  is going to be a fast moving energy along with some other things to start to
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  bring us further over this threshold into a dimension of reality
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  that I don't think anyone knows what that's going to be. I don't.
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  Yeah. So thinking about asking what is the year ahead,
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  if I were to answer really honestly, I would say I have no idea.
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  That there's a lot of mystery.
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  It's a lot of mystery.
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  Because things feel like they're moving so rapidly and changing so rapidly.
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  And we can look and see like, okay, what are the going to be the transits,
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  what's going to be happening in the stars, but how that translates-.
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  To our lives.
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  And I guess it really depends too on the choice points of how we're
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  choosing to meet what changes personally and also collectively.
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  And that's such an important ...
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  In thinking about your questions and how to answer and...
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  Because I know people, we're wired to want to know what's ahead.
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  We're so wired to like... "tell me".
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  And then I think honestly,
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  the image I'm having is that wall that takes us into the galactic
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  fairy realm, we'll call it, the non-human,
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  the meeting of physical and non-physical, of non-ordinary and ordinary, of
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  our luminous selves.
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  But the desire to know actually keeps us in limitation.
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  And that's something I've discovered. Everything I talk about is not a concept.
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  It's like actually how I've had to change my own orientation to life over 40
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  years of... actually not how I've had to change,
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  but how I have been changed.
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  Yeah.
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  Not how I've had to because we're always in choice. So I never had to,
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  but I've wanted to.
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  And so there's always been this allowing of being available to be
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  taught what the astrology is because I've got a lot of books too,
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  and you can look in a book.
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  And I've realized in some things that I've been in in the last
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  couple of years, where if I look it up,
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  all I think is this says absolutely nothing about the truth of what this
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  experience is.
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  And that's why I'm so passionate about readings is because I'm
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  obsessed with learning about what it all means.
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  And I feel like every person I meet with teaches me what it means.
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  That's beautiful.
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  And then I get to metabolize that in my own wisdom and then share that.
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  So it's this constant reciprocity of sitting with people.
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  And I think every client is my teacher.
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  Mhmm, yeah.
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  Because the planetary beings are actually speaking through them.
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  So the planetary beings are teaching me through what you say,
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  like when we were sitting before and I listen,
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  I'm hearing on a lot of different levels.
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  And, well, I'm curious then on that note,
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  because we were talking before about this being like a year where there's
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  more embodiment, like people are coming more into their bodies,
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  more into really feeling those planetary influences,
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  becoming more of a channel for that within their own selves,
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  like this sort of embodied knowing.
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  And I'm curious if anything came through or you have any insight
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  for folks around like, "Okay, well, how do I do that?
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  " Or what does that look like? Especially because there can be such a... like
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  bless our hearts,
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  such as a desire to look at the predictive astrology for that week and be like,
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  basically, with kind of this sense of like,
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  "Will I be spared?" I feel like that's our vibe often, will I be spared?
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  But what you're talking about is the empowerment of really
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  feeling for yourself. What do I feel?
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  What am I experiencing? What is my personal connection with this planet?
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  And I'm just curious from your experience,
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  if there's anything that helps people to do that.
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  Okay. Let me see. Well,
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  one thing I would say,
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  because I don't know if all your listeners are all into astrology.
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  I think it runs the gamut. I think everyone's interested...
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  In some capacity.
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  Yeah. If you're listening, you're interested. But their knowledge-.
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  It varies.
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  Yeah.
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  Of course. So
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  one thing that I have kind of come to understand, I think,
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  over the decades is really the precept of "know
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  thyself" is the anchor point.
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  And that is from within.
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  And of course we're all content downloaders. We want to know,
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  we want information, we want insight from different people. And like I had said,
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  information and content does not equate to wisdom.
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  So what I would say is, A. put the apps down, get off social media,
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  stop listening to TikTok,
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  take a break and tune in to
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  a quality of receptivity that
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  we all have access to.
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  And because astrology has exploded online in the last 12 years,
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  it makes it easy to think that information equates to wisdom.
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  And information has no nuance.
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  And so the planets are very nuanced.
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  And so I've learned Saturn, Pluto, Mercury,
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  every one of them feel like animated.
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  Like they're actual living presences to me and they communicate
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  to me. And I know, often, who's communicating, but
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  you don't have to know any astrology ever
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  to access the magic of the planets because if you're
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  living your life and following what's of value and importance and meaning
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  to you and whatever we'll say the healing journey is
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  asking,
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  then you're going to be living in coherence with the planetary archetypes in
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  your own body.
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  They're going to be alive and well and informative in ways
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  that are far richer than
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  content. But it's a practice.
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  It is a nuanced practice. And that's actually, when we get to it later,
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  something that I just received a transmission about, "Oh,
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  you should teach about this.
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  " I don't really have more than the outline,
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  but the way I think to
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  really work with the astrology is to be present in the now, to not go,
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  "what's happening in May?" Because then our mind wants to
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  conceptualize an outcome that's going to make us comfortable,
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  which is what keeps us in
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  limitation because we define things as good or bad.
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  and comfort would fall in the bad category... or lack of comfort would fall in
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  the "not good" category,
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  when discomfort right now is really part of the
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  metamorphosis that is required to be shaped by the mystery and to
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  encounter the mystery in a more malleable way. And so for me,
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  I can only speak how I have learned to do it, is
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  honestly, I hardly ever know what's happening down the road. I mean, I do,
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  but I don't think about it. Because I listen to stuff. I mean,
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  I am fascinated and interested and I have key people that I really value their
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  information and their wisdom, but
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  I don't really keep my eye on a signpost down the road.
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  I know what's going on right now
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  and I work with that because from a soul's perspective,
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  working with where you are right now is going to inform that thing that happens
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  down the road. But if your eye is on what's down the road,
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  you're going to be making choices to make sure you feel okay and get what you
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  want and are attached to an outcome. And
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  I mean, that is one way to do it,
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  but I have just found that taking the next right step means that I'm more
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  available for serendipity, synchronicity,
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  and the magic of the way that the planets want to express through
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  surprise, through Uranian kind of like shocks that actually don't have to
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  throw me, break the ground beneath me,
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  but they might relocate me into a much better situation.
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  Does that make sense?
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  Yeah. It's something I have started to say to myself in the recent years is,
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  "Okay, if I think something's going to be some way,
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  I can at least take heart because I know it's not going to be that way."
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  And even if it's adjacent or similar,
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  because we all get downloads of guidance and we get visions of the future and
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  sometimes it's close, but it's never exactly it.
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  And I think that's kind of by design,
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  that it's like if we think something's exactly it,
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  it's actually kind of comforting because you're like, "Okay,
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  it's not going to be exactly that, but it might be a few degrees this way.
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  It might be a few degrees that way. It might be totally different." And yeah,
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  I think that that is ...
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  I love that you're bringing it in as almost like this element of
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  distraction, honestly, from what it is we're here to do.
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  And I remember this Daoist teacher, Jeffrey Yuen,
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  hearing him say that information is entertainment.
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  And it's good entertainment.
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  I love information,
• 24:43
  but that ultimately in terms of the soul's growth and the soul's journey,
• 24:48
  that it is so much more about that inner listening,
• 24:53
  that embodiment, like what you are receiving.
• 24:56
  And that's more important now than ever because as you're talking,
• 25:02
  one of the things about 2026 is we're entering territory that is
• 25:06
  unknown to every human on the planet.
• 25:09
  We're entering sort of an astrological landscape that
• 25:14
  from a vibrational expression,
• 25:17
  meaning a vibrational expression through our lived experience,
• 25:21
  like who's lived through a collapse before? I mean,
• 25:26
  certainly maybe in other timelines that are running as well.
• 25:31
  But we're entering territory where humanity is
• 25:38
  moving through...
• 25:40
  and I'm not proficient in the Mayan technology,
• 25:43
  only enough to know the resonance of these epochs of change and the
• 25:48
  evolutionary waves and ebbs and flows,
• 25:51
  but we're moving into a dimensional experience of reality that is really going
• 25:56
  to create invitations for us to meet our
• 26:00
  galactive,
• 26:02
  galactic selves and ancestors and
• 26:07
  friends. And I don't know what that's going to look like,
• 26:10
  but I'm already starting to get some knocks on the door and
• 26:15
  we don't know the territory we're moving into.
• 26:18
  So to be in the unknown is not what we're conditioned
• 26:23
  in.
• 26:23
  All of us who are alive now are not inherently conditioned to rest in
• 26:28
  the mystery. We're conditioned to set a goal,
• 26:33
  there's the mountain, here's your pack, get to base camp,
• 26:38
  climb the mountain. Oh, then there's the next one and there's the next one.
• 26:41
  And things are,
• 26:43
  in the way that I have been receiving information and understanding is,
• 26:49
  the reality is not set that we're moving into.
• 26:53
  Yeah, I follow you.
• 26:53
  And so that's why being present and taking the next step is where each one of us
• 26:58
  becomes shapeshifters to create
• 27:03
  form out of formlessness.
• 27:05
  And we do it with our own lives and that becomes the contribution of
• 27:10
  our solar essence, our life force.
• 27:13
  In this very high,
• 27:16
  pure... to the best of our ability,
• 27:19
  because we're always working with the things we're working
• 27:24
  with; that being human says,
• 27:28
  "you have a body, you have a reality, you have family,
• 27:32
  you've got relationships." And not everyone is on the same page and our bodies
• 27:36
  aren't always on the same page with
• 27:40
  what we desire.
• 27:43
  Yes.
• 27:44
  So I feel like encouraging people to
• 27:49
  use all the tools in their tool bag
• 27:53
  and a hefty dose of,
• 27:55
  "I don't know." Just like a big open space for I don't know,
• 28:00
  but in that I don't know,
• 28:02
  like I wake up in the morning sometimes and I'll just...
• 28:05
  might know that I've got some inner dichotomy and
• 28:09
  challenges going on. And some of my new prayers... "Okay,
• 28:13
  I'll take a miracle today, dealer's choice.".
• 28:16
  Yeah, I like that. "You choose, but I would like one.".
• 28:21
  But all day, however you want to give it to me.
• 28:24
  And then I don't attach in my mind what that miracle has to be.
• 28:28
  And inevitably it comes and it can be in such subtle ways,
• 28:32
  it can be in big ways, it can be in profound ways, it can be in ordinary ways,
• 28:37
  but it's still a miracle.
• 28:38
  Yeah. I love that. That's knowledge, wisdom, that we need right now.
• 28:44
  And I'm curious,
• 28:46
  looking at this year without stepping too much into the information,
• 28:51
  predictive quality,
• 28:52
  what are some of the energies or big energies or transits that you see
• 28:57
  that are helpful for that, helpful supporting us in that journey?
• 29:00
  Yeah, I think that is definitely something to have on your map.
• 29:06
  So I guess by the time this airs in February, of course,
• 29:10
  the big headline news for that period will be Saturn
• 29:15
  and Neptune back,
• 29:17
  or in zero degrees of Aries meeting up on February 20th.
• 29:22
  So that is a big storyline for all of us that is going
• 29:27
  to translate into something personal.
• 29:31
  But it feels like, when we're recording this now,
• 29:36
  we're really closing out,
• 29:39
  in our own lives and realities,
• 29:42
  storylines that hold a lot of grief in the body and experiences and
• 29:47
  karmic
• 29:50
  contracts and soul mandates that are
• 29:57
  connected structurally, I'd say, cellularly,
• 30:01
  to a time that is closing, not a time we're entering.
• 30:05
  And so I think Saturn and Neptune...
• 30:08
  I feel the Saturn in Aries energy specifically.
• 30:12
  It's hard for me to know what Neptune in Aries is going to be like because I
• 30:16
  just don't. So a lot of times I just learn as I go, basically.
• 30:21
  I learn as I go through real life experience. So I don't really ... I mean,
• 30:26
  I do feel like Neptune and Aries is going to be much more around taking...
• 30:32
  the spiritual frames that we've all been in are going to require a different
• 30:36
  kind of action instead of what Neptune in Aries since 2011
• 30:42
  has just been this rise in all kinds of wellness and spirituality stuff
• 30:47
  online that is a blend of a lot of different energies that are hard to sift
• 30:51
  through and don't always contain the essence of something that feels good.
• 30:57
  But the Saturn in Aries feels,
• 30:59
  when we think about that wall or the structure or limitation,
• 31:03
  I feel it as an energy of disciplined
• 31:07
  courage. And I love the root word of discipline as
• 31:13
  disciples. So being a disciple of our own courage,
• 31:15
  which really translates to being a disciple of following our heart.
• 31:20
  The root word of courage is cor, which is heart.
• 31:24
  And if I'm saying that correctly. But yeah,
• 31:28
  so there's that.
• 31:29
  And then we've got eclipses in
• 31:34
  February and I just always feel like-and in early March-and I always just feel
• 31:38
  those as these amazing portals and doorways.
• 31:42
  And then in April, there's this big confluence of Aries energy.
• 31:47
  And that's when I pulled your chart up and said,
• 31:51
  "What is happening with Asia with this? " And
• 31:56
  I think it's, gosh, I could pull it up on my phone,
• 31:59
  but I'm just going to try to do it by memory.
• 32:01
  But there's many planets in Aries at that time.
• 32:04
  And so that just feels as if there's rocket fuel,
• 32:10
  that we're all kind of coming out of this sluggish
• 32:16
  year of finishing up. And certainly here in Western North Carolina,
• 32:19
  all the things that we have worked with.
• 32:25
  But it does feel as if that's this, from the Equinox on,
• 32:30
  I could say, this energy of rocket fuel saying,
• 32:34
  "You ready to be the new human that your soul said now
• 32:40
  you're lucky enough to be here during an epoch change?
• 32:44
  What a gift that is. How are you going to courageously move ahead in this very
• 32:49
  dynamic, pioneering, assertive, non-aggressive,
• 32:54
  empowered,
• 32:55
  standing in the truth of your own fire kind of a way?" So I'm very curious about
• 32:59
  that and all of that's happening.
• 33:01
  And I think that that's going to be a destiny marker point for you actually with
• 33:05
  your North Node and Aries. And your Aries midheaven and your Jupiter in Aries.
• 33:10
  It just feels... you know,
• 33:15
  we're all being called to the front lines because no one's coming to save us.
• 33:18
  There's no ETs coming to save us. There's no... I mean,
• 33:22
  I think that there are.
• 33:24
  We have lots of friends who are going to start revealing themselves.
• 33:27
  And certainly I'm on board with all the 3i/ATLAS stuff right now and not even
• 33:32
  really knowing what that is,
• 33:33
  but being very curious around the codes of ancient wisdom that are being
• 33:38
  emitted onto the planet. And as they're emitted onto the planet,
• 33:41
  they're emitted into our bodies.
• 33:44
  And that's why our bodies hold everything we need,
• 33:48
  not the internet. And even with AI,
• 33:54
  just as an aside, I think about AI more
• 33:58
  using this word "alien intelligence," really is the AI,
• 34:02
  is the intelligence of the wiring of our
• 34:08
  body's nervous system as it matches in coherence to the galactic nervous
• 34:13
  system.
• 34:14
  So that Aries energy and April feels really significant for everyone.
• 34:19
  And you'd have to dial into each person's chart for what that is.
• 34:23
  And then April 26th is definitely something that I'm paying
• 34:28
  attention to because I have such a love for the planet Uranus and the planetary
• 34:33
  beings connected to Uranus. And I mean, I love them all.
• 34:38
  But they're like children: Who's your favorite? They're not children.
• 34:42
  They're actually elders, like beyond elders. I'm their child,
• 34:47
  but it's like many parents or something.
• 34:51
  But Uranus goes back into Gemini on April 26th.
• 34:55
  And that feels like another kind of speeding up because that's when it
• 35:00
  starts in
• 35:04
  this more open conversation with Pluto. And so
• 35:11
  we're going into territory that is beyond the form of
• 35:16
  anything we have known. And we're going to all be receiving
• 35:21
  information through how we attune our own channel.
• 35:24
  And our channel is our body and our nervous system and our hearts.
• 35:28
  Yeah.
• 35:29
  Does that make sense?
• 35:30
  Yeah, I feel that so strongly. Yeah. And I think for me,
• 35:35
  especially the last four years since having my daughter,
• 35:39
  I feel like I've been in this masterclass of the body
• 35:43
  is your teacher, the body is your dom. You must listen to the body, you know?
• 35:48
  And yeah, just really, really seeing so clearly how the heart,
• 35:54
  my nervous system, like my Soma,
• 35:58
  that is the channel. That is the guide.
• 36:03
  And I think we're in this time, you sort of mentioned it before,
• 36:07
  where we've been in this huge rise of
• 36:11
  the wellness industry or just all the things that are on offer,
• 36:15
  endless information, endless paradigms, endless practices.
• 36:21
  And yet the thing that we really most need is this connection to ourselves
• 36:26
  and to our bodies. And I love that it sounds like,
• 36:30
  especially with that Aries energy,
• 36:33
  I'm very much a novice with astrology,
• 36:35
  but from what I understand with Aries too being the beginning, that it's like...
• 36:40
  I think about a baby being born and how much they're in their bodies and they're
• 36:44
  like, "Okay,
• 36:45
  this is my form and this is what I'm getting used to." And so I think about that
• 36:50
  moving into this, I forget what you called it in Aries.
• 36:53
  It's just a buildup of a bunch of...
• 36:55
  Well it's Saturn and Neptune in Aries,
• 36:56
  the conjunction when they're holding hands in the sky at zero degrees Aries,
• 37:02
  that is the most, that is the beginning point. The Axis Mundi.
• 37:05
  Aries is the beginning of the zodiacal
• 37:10
  orientation, the tropical zodiac.
• 37:13
  It's that beginning point.
• 37:16
  And it feels like a beginning point for humanity in a way we've never known it
• 37:20
  before. And so thinking about the soma and the body,
• 37:24
  and we're going to have a lot of fire and we're moving from earth water
• 37:29
  in this timeframe into fire and air,
• 37:32
  which is a very different elemental quality of expression for each of
• 37:36
  us. And to anchor,
• 37:40
  I think about our bodies as the conduit and the vessel.
• 37:44
  And I think the thing to help with that somatic
• 37:49
  acclimation to these higher frequency energies is to work with our vessel.
• 37:55
  And I don't mean in the way that the wellness influencers want to market a
• 37:59
  this or a that or a plan.
• 38:01
  I'm talking about how are we managing intake
• 38:06
  of thought forms? How are we digesting and assimilating?
• 38:12
  It's a very Mercury Virgo quality of working with the mind-body aspect of
• 38:16
  information, which is different than the Mercury Gemini working with it. But to
• 38:24
  really... coming back to the wall,
• 38:27
  what are our boundaries around time and energy?
• 38:30
  And really our default conditioning to patterns of busyness or people
• 38:35
  pleasing or acceptance or performative needing to be responded
• 38:40
  to or seen in a certain way.
• 38:43
  I'm a real proponent from my own experience of embracing insecurity.
• 38:48
  I love that.
• 38:49
  As a way to work with coming into authenticity,
• 38:54
  to coming into... that word's thrown around a lot,
• 38:57
  but authenticity is an aspect of individuation,
• 38:59
  meaning we're individuating into an expression of
• 39:04
  self that is as free as possible of distortions,
• 39:09
  meaning other people's projections, our own projections,
• 39:14
  or distortions of just an overconsumptive informative reality
• 39:19
  where more information is going to ...
• 39:22
  And I actually catch myself.
• 39:25
  It's like sometimes I'm in such discomfort.
• 39:29
  I just want to know the thing that's going to pull me out of discomfort.
• 39:32
  Of course. It's so human.
• 39:36
  It's so human. And yet it's like grasping at the wind for an anchor.
• 39:41
  It just doesn't work. And you do it enough, it's finally like, screw it.
• 39:47
  But then you catch yourself because the discomfort just can throw us into
• 39:53
  a catapult of default conditioning.
• 39:57
  So I think for everyone would be really ... 2026 is,
• 40:01
  especially going into it, leading into that fiery energy of April,
• 40:05
  is pay attention to your default conditioning.
• 40:08
  I think that's great advice as a way to orient to your
• 40:13
  availability to be shapeshifted.
• 40:18
  Mhmm. And do you get the sense that with the transformation that's offered,
• 40:22
  this opportunity that's on offer in April, that if we lean into that,
• 40:29
  that going back to that analogy of going beyond the wall,
• 40:32
  it's like we're kind of going to be in new terrain then for the rest of the
• 40:34
  year?
• 40:36
  We'll be in new terrain, and we're really already in that...
• 40:39
  the new terrain is kind of an interdimensional blending right now. And
• 40:45
  one of the things that's coming to me around the limitation,
• 40:49
  the wall kind of theme,
• 40:50
  which I'm so grateful I got that guidance to use because it's really helpful, is
• 40:56
  that we're at a choice point.
• 41:00
  And I did hear an astrologer who has a lot of wisdom say that
• 41:05
  this Saturn-Neptune conjunction hasn't happened in 9,000 years.
• 41:11
  And so what reality was 9,000 years ago and what it is now, well,
• 41:14
  we can't even measure that because of the quality of quantitative
• 41:19
  sort of frequency increase. But
• 41:24
  thinking about Saturn is the things that we ...
• 41:28
  that fiery energy is going to move all of us in a direction.
• 41:32
  And so we want there to be a lot of spaciousness as opposed to
• 41:37
  narrowness because the direction is going to get set.
• 41:43
  And so if you're still in your default,
• 41:47
  that fire is setting up in your default tributary,
• 41:51
  as opposed to a tributary that's really taking you into
• 41:58
  an expanded state of your own autonomy.
• 42:04
  And I think that's what we all want. And I think that's part of where,
• 42:08
  as we stand in our own individuated autonomy,
• 42:11
  it continues to work with the power-over model and we come shoulder to
• 42:16
  shoulder standing in our autonomy and we're helping each other in a lateral way,
• 42:22
  community way.
• 42:23
  I love that reframe too of Aries because so often people are like,
• 42:27
  Aries energy's just out for itself, but it's actually...
• 42:30
  Well the outside of Aries is aggressive and impulsive and egocentric.
• 42:35
  And the shadow is always available in all of the archetypes of the sign.
• 42:39
  And we dance on that continuum. And
• 42:43
  part of what Saturn does is it takes us through time, is it matures us.
• 42:48
  That's how we gain wisdom. I had to befriend Saturn. I was in my ...
• 42:53
  I was 35 going to therapy saying, "I want to know what a goal is,
• 42:58
  " which is so Saturn because of my own family of origin history.
• 43:03
  But to now be out of my second Saturn return and to feel like I love
• 43:08
  Saturn, I fricking love Saturn.
• 43:13
  And not every ...
• 43:15
  Sometimes Saturn's annoying, but yeah,
• 43:19
  so it is a reframe. Aries is the "I am" presence
• 43:25
  and that feels good to me.
• 43:28
  Yeah, me too. And I am an Aries North node though. So I'm like, yes,
• 43:31
  those energies.
• 43:33
  And you've got this. Yeah. So
• 43:37
  I think it's taking you into really new territory and
• 43:42
  is part of your I am presence and your contribution and your forward facing
• 43:46
  self that has a pioneering aspect to it, something new.
• 43:50
  So think about it as a brand new version of you coming forward.
• 43:55
  Okay. I'm here for that.
• 43:56
  And Saturn is moving towards your mid-heaven. So it's really like you,
• 44:01
  as you are moving into the latter part of your 30s and the midlife
• 44:06
  transits are going to start to
• 44:10
  have different mandates and requests for you.
• 44:13
  It's coming into your authority and your mastery and the turn
• 44:18
  of the wheel. We come into our authority and our mastery. And
• 44:22
  the state of impermanence is always fascinating.
• 44:25
  The ebb and flow of being on top and then going back down and descending into
• 44:30
  the underworld and bringing back up the alchemical gold.
• 44:32
  And then that's part of the wave of the Mayan, collectively.
• 44:37
  Yeah, it's like you get that level of mastery, then you become a beginner again.
• 44:41
  Exactly. It's like over and over again. And that's where Saturn's like, oh,
• 44:45
  your insecurities back. You're going back down.
• 44:48
  You're going back down and we're going to let you feel some of the ways that you
• 44:52
  have some new skill development.
• 44:54
  But I feel like you're coming into a real time of birthing new parts
• 44:59
  of you or maybe not even new parts of you,
• 45:02
  but parts of you that are now ready to express.
• 45:06
  Because that's part of the Uranus energy is the awakening of dormant DNA and
• 45:10
  maybe Pluto and Aquarius as well. And yeah.
• 45:14
  Well, I'm excited. Now I'm excited for myself.
• 45:17
  It does sound though between the end of February and
• 45:22
  this lineup in April that there's kind of this time in between those two
• 45:27
  points of like to get clear.
• 45:29
  Yeah. I would say when this airs in February for people,
• 45:34
  whoever's interested in tuning into that,
• 45:36
  to just really drop into ... I mean,
• 45:41
  one really embodied way to do it is where do I not feel good
• 45:46
  and where do I want to feel better? I mean,
• 45:48
  sometimes it's just what is the better feeling option?
• 45:52
  And we think of discomfort as the not-better feeling option,
• 45:57
  but discomfort is often the doorway to the better feeling option.
• 46:02
  I think we need that reminder a lot.
• 46:04
  Yeah.
• 46:05
  It's like our entire edifice of our culture is built around avoiding discomfort.
• 46:09
  Exactly. And that would be,
• 46:12
  if I could say one thing for the first three months of this year is do not
• 46:16
  avoid...or four months or five months or forever months. Who knows?
• 46:21
  Don't avoid discomfort,
• 46:23
  because discomfort is impermanent and we get very attached to the idea of
• 46:27
  feeling bad as if we're going to feel that way forever.
• 46:30
  But we are inherently
• 46:34
  malleable. I mean, our bodies, think about aging. At 63,
• 46:38
  I feel the same inside,
• 46:40
  but the physical structure is impermanent.
• 46:44
  Everything is impermanent. Every state of being is impermanent every moment.
• 46:50
  And that's always been a source of solace to me is this won't last forever.
• 46:55
  And at the same time saying, "Good God, when is this going to be over?".
• 47:00
  Totally. I'm like,
• 47:01
  "One day it'll all be over," and I really take solace in that.
• 47:04
  Yes. So true.
• 47:08
  So I'm curious,
• 47:09
  because this is something that I am always thinking about as someone who does
• 47:14
  intuitive readings. I now do monthly intuitive readings for the podcast.
• 47:17
  I used to do in- person intuitive readings with people.
• 47:21
  And it's something I think about often where you're pulling ...
• 47:24
  I work with images and metaphors mostly,
• 47:29
  the feelings that come through metaphors,
• 47:31
  the information that will be specific for whoever is hearing it.
• 47:36
  But I think often about how I receive these images or these metaphors,
• 47:40
  for example, the year ahead.
• 47:41
  I've been doing these year ahead readings now for seven years and I will get a
• 47:45
  certain amount of information around that or a feeling around it.
• 47:48
  And then I look back on it and I'm like, okay, here's all of the things... like
• 47:55
  how that all fits together and I couldn't have possibly seen it from that
• 47:58
  perspective. So I think where I'm going with this is I'm curious,
• 48:02
  now that 2025 is done, has wrapped up for us,
• 48:06
  and we're in 2026, it's like we know 2025 now. We did 2025.
• 48:11
  So in what ways is 2026 different from
• 48:17
  2025? I think that it just a helpful anchor point of like, okay,
• 48:21
  I'm anchored in what was,
• 48:24
  and so how is what we're moving into in 2026 going to be different?
• 48:29
  It's going to be so
• 48:33
  mind-bogglingly different. It's going to be a very, very fast,
• 48:37
  accelerated energy.
• 48:39
  And I know that everyone in 2025 is that wound-down,
• 48:43
  talked about, oh my God, it's already December. Oh my God, the time is so fast.
• 48:48
  So the acceleration. And I think that the
• 48:53
  coding coming from the electromagnetic field of the solar
• 48:58
  system that is
• 49:01
  receiving new input is
• 49:06
  translating to a much faster energy.
• 49:10
  And 2026 where I almost feel it like
• 49:17
  we're so wired...
• 49:18
  I feel like 2025 was such a culmination of the need to know,
• 49:23
  and the need to make a plan. And it just, in the collapse,
• 49:27
  nothing went according to plan. And the collapse isn't over, obviously.
• 49:32
  But in that, nothing went according to plan.
• 49:35
  So what I really feel like for the energy in 2026 is it feels more like
• 49:40
  thought, word,
• 49:40
  and deed happening as an impulse of knowing all at
• 49:45
  once, where we're not going, "What am I going to do and who am I going to be?
• 49:49
  And what is the strategy to get there?" It feels more
• 49:54
  like strategic instinctive action.
• 50:00
  That's what I am really feeling for 2026 is
• 50:06
  being able to...
• 50:08
  and it's really about living so in the now, that what you need to know,
• 50:13
  when you need to know it happens as it arises,
• 50:16
  not a moment too soon or a moment too late,
• 50:19
  which is about being in presence with a capital P.
• 50:22
  And I talk about it all the time in the sense that
• 50:26
  the day that this comes out and somebody listens to it is the present moment and
• 50:31
  we're recording it in December and that's the present moment.
• 50:34
  And what is the present moment anyway when it all happens all at once?
• 50:38
  And so I think about our relationship to time changing.
• 50:43
  And I know that I'm releasing some attachment to linear time
• 50:47
  and opening up into a more expanded non-ordinary time where
• 50:52
  everything is happening at once,
• 50:54
  meaning I can meet aspects of myself that don't require the same
• 50:59
  arduousness of unpacking parts of layered
• 51:05
  trauma conditioning.
• 51:06
  And not that that won't continue because we're human and there's always more to
• 51:10
  be revealed,
• 51:12
  but I just feel 2026 as being fast
• 51:17
  and
• 51:20
  that we are going to be reminded over and over and over,
• 51:24
  like we're going to come up against our own mental concepts of known versus
• 51:28
  unknown, but even more than that,
• 51:30
  we're going to come up against our awareness of known versus the
• 51:35
  unknowable.
• 51:37
  And there's a big difference between the unknown and the unknowable.
• 51:41
  And I feel like they're going to be hanging out and we're over here in the
• 51:46
  third part of that triangle of what we want to be the
• 51:50
  known.
• 51:51
  And I think that's something in 2026 that we're all going to be encountering the
• 51:56
  mystery from the frame of, I don't freaking know.
• 52:00
  Yeah. And I can't know.
• 52:01
  And I can't know. And honestly, as I have aged,
• 52:04
  I find my nervous system is far more relaxed when
• 52:09
  I am in the unknown and/or leaning even further towards
• 52:14
  the unknowable. When I lean over here to the known,
• 52:18
  my anxiety spikes.
• 52:20
  And so I would really encourage people to be aware of your spike in anxiety or
• 52:24
  spike in discomfort or anxiety or fear and
• 52:29
  your attachment to needing to know.
• 52:31
  And if you can find a way to relax into the mystery and pray for a miracle,
• 52:36
  dealer's choice.
• 52:39
  Yeah. You were telling me before we started that, you're like,
• 52:41
  "Some mornings I just am like, I need a miracle today, but it's dealer's choice,
• 52:44
  whatever you want to send me.".
• 52:45
  Yeah. And release...
• 52:48
  a key thing in that would be to release attachment to the how,
• 52:53
  meaning you can have your desires. Of course, we're human.
• 52:55
  We're going to want ... I have desires, I have intentions,
• 52:59
  I have things that I want to experience and express in the best possible
• 53:04
  way. And where I get locked is when I think I'm also in charge of the how,
• 53:10
  how that's going to happen. So I say,
• 53:12
  hold those very human desires of longing and love and
• 53:18
  co-creative whatever we want, but to let spirit, the mystery,
• 53:23
  be in charge of the how.
• 53:25
  And that is where miracles and grace and ease and flow come from
• 53:30
  is not being in charge of the how,
• 53:35
  which does not mean that we are still not the captain of our ship.
• 53:39
  You're not giving up your power, you're actually increasing your power.
• 53:45
  I just got such a visual of like literally navigating a ship by the stars at
• 53:49
  night. It's like this is still your ship that you're navigating,
• 53:53
  but you're not just, I don't know what,
• 53:56
  trying to rely on only your own life experience or knowhow.
• 54:00
  It's like you're looking to the stars.
• 54:02
  Yeah. And be able to think of the planets as living
• 54:07
  entities that express through
• 54:14
  our awareness and have language and desires and
• 54:19
  octaves of expression. Again,
• 54:22
  not happening out there to hear, but... the planets are out there,
• 54:27
  but their voice comes through us, not to us.
• 54:32
  Hmmm. That's beautiful.
• 54:35
  Yeah.
• 54:36
  I love that distinction. And I also think we so often,
• 54:41
  especially in the more like pop astrology realms, we talk about Saturn this,
• 54:45
  Jupiter, this, without actually having that relationship. Or even,
• 54:50
  for myself in the past, I've caught myself and been like, "Asia,
• 54:53
  these are literal huge planetary bodies in
• 54:58
  the solar system in which you live." They're not just some mental
• 55:03
  construct or archetype.
• 55:04
  This is a literal planet that is
• 55:09
  interacting with your planet is interacting with your body,
• 55:12
  that you're a part of that field, you're a part of that constellation.
• 55:15
  In such a nuanced way with infinite,
• 55:18
  and I mean infinite number of possibilities and expressions.
• 55:23
  And in my 30s, pre-internet,
• 55:27
  I made a conscious decision and I was raising kids too.
• 55:30
  So it was conscious and necessary in a lot of ways,
• 55:34
  but I always knew what transits were happening,
• 55:37
  but I stopped reading my books and specifically to learn
• 55:42
  how-especially the outer planets,
• 55:45
  because that's always been my orientation to the evolutionary arc of
• 55:49
  development-but
• 55:51
  how do they express through my daily reality and the weather and people and
• 55:55
  energy.
• 55:56
  So I can read in the field and know who's present,
• 56:00
  whether it's Neptune or Mercury or Uranus or in the airport,
• 56:05
  I will often entertain myself by people walking by. I'm like, "Oh my God,
• 56:10
  that person either is Pisces rising, they've got Neptune on the ascendant,
• 56:13
  or what is happening?" But I put the books away so that
• 56:18
  the planets could begin to speak to me through the field and teach me what they
• 56:23
  felt like, not what I thought about them.
• 56:26
  So now I know how in my readings when people talk, I'm like, "Oh,
• 56:30
  of course I know who's talking." And then I look at the ...
• 56:33
  I don't read the chart, I read the field,
• 56:35
  and then the chart is just the map to help me read the field.
• 56:39
  I love that framing.
• 56:41
  Yeah.
• 56:42
  Okay. So now I have to ask you then, what are your big three then?
• 56:45
  What's your Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto?
• 56:47
  Okay. And again, generational. Uranus is in Leo,
• 56:52
  late Leo. My Neptune is in Scorpio,
• 56:55
  and my Pluto is in Virgo. So I'm the Pluto and Virgo generation.
• 57:00
  It's all generational, but those are my big transpersonal three.
• 57:04
  Yeah. And you told me literally right before we recorded and now I'm like,
• 57:08
  can I remember what my three are? So I'm 38 right now.
• 57:11
  Do you want me to tell you?
• 57:13
  Yeah. Do you want me to say- Can you remind me? Yeah.
• 57:16
  And your big three. Yes, please remind me. Yes.
• 57:19
  Your big three are Uranus and Sage, Neptune and Capricorn, Pluto,
• 57:24
  and Scorpio.
• 57:24
  Okay. So that's who we're working with.
• 57:26
  That's the big three who's in this room right now.
• 57:29
  Yeah.
• 57:29
  Those are the archetypal transpersonal evolutionary heavy
• 57:34
  hitters that really are the
• 57:41
  architects of deep change in our lives. Brilliant. Yeah.
• 57:46
  Yeah. If you are someone who maybe you're just getting started with astrology,
• 57:51
  you aren't even familiar,
• 57:53
  maybe with the different associations with the different planets,
• 57:56
  how would you suggest going about creating these kinds of relationships?
• 58:01
  So
• 58:04
  I would say there's some really good teachers out there.
• 58:08
  I don't think that I am a teacher of that kind of astrology,
• 58:12
  but there are some really good teachers out there who have a lot of wisdom where
• 58:16
  you could learn the basics or I'm going to call it the old fashioned
• 58:21
  way since I learned at an unlikely time,
• 58:24
  started at an unlikely time in an unlikely place in 1987 in Savannah, Georgia,
• 58:29
  Is follow your passion. There's so much content,
• 58:33
  and so that creates this frame of like, I need to know more,
• 58:37
  I need to know more, which increases our insecurity.
• 58:39
  And I know that story well because I lived that for a long time because
• 58:44
  I have had mentors, but I'm very self-taught,
• 58:46
  but I'm taught through direct revelation.
• 58:49
  I have a very direct revelatory interaction.
• 58:52
  So the planets have taught me through the field,
• 58:56
  but the content is so massive at this point.
• 59:02
  I think the best way to learn is to learn the basics of the scaffolding of the
• 59:07
  chart, the houses, planets, and science,
• 59:10
  and simply follow your passion because I don't feel like you have to
• 59:15
  learn astrology. Unfortunately,
• 59:17
  that's part of the culture now is I know a little, so let me hang a shingle,
• 59:24
  learn it to know thyself.
• 59:26
  I spent 15 or 18 years
• 59:30
  learning before I ever did readings for the public.
• 59:34
  And I was also at a time of life where I actually never started learning to
• 59:38
  become an astrologer and do this work as my call.
• 59:41
  I didn't know then that it was my calling.
• 59:43
  I only knew that I was obsessed with knowing thyself and healing myself
• 59:48
  and learning about how that worked and remembering.
• 59:54
  But yeah, I would say for people to follow their passion and then
• 59:59
  give themselves time To integrate it. And so that would mean,
• 1:00:04
  and it's so hard. We're so compulsive with our phones. It's really hard.
• 1:00:08
  And I get that. And so I'm not advocating do that,
• 1:00:11
  but to give yourself some intentional time to
• 1:00:16
  metabolize what you're learning through looking at it through the lens of your
• 1:00:21
  life.
• 1:00:21
  Yeah.
• 1:00:22
  Does that make sense?
• 1:00:24
  Yeah. Yeah. Really you can look at your chart,
• 1:00:28
  you can look at what people are saying about things,
• 1:00:30
  but then to really like to then turn everything off and step into your
• 1:00:35
  experience.
• 1:00:36
  And I think in some ways what helps me is looking back a
• 1:00:41
  little bit too after something passes. 100%. And being like, okay,
• 1:00:45
  this is what I read about that, but this is actually what I expect.
• 1:00:48
  That is exactly ... Oh my God, Asia, that is exactly right.
• 1:00:52
  Because if I'm being really honest,
• 1:00:55
  I feel like most of the time, even with my own chart,
• 1:00:59
  until it actually starts to reveal itself,
• 1:01:04
  I don't know. And I always have, I'll just be really honest here.
• 1:01:08
  It's like even after doing many, many thousands of readings,
• 1:01:12
  there's always this little slight bit of insecurity where I'm like,
• 1:01:17
  I have no idea. I don't know. I don't know.
• 1:01:21
  But the minute somebody starts talking, it's as if there's a click in my brain,
• 1:01:27
  but I'm also receiving in a way. But
• 1:01:32
  yeah, I think that it's really hard to ...
• 1:01:37
  When we try to use our brains to know, it's a lockup.
• 1:01:44
  And so that learning from your experience and in hindsight, like what you said,
• 1:01:48
  that is a great way to go, "Oh, that's what happened."
• 1:01:53
  And then what that I hope can do for the people who are listening,
• 1:01:57
  if you can approach it like that is to ...
• 1:02:02
  I call it rear view mirror reflection.
• 1:02:04
  And it helps me see patterns of development for myself. I do it,
• 1:02:09
  like my evolving patterns of development so that when something's
• 1:02:13
  happening,
• 1:02:14
  I can place it inside a pattern recognition flow to help me say,
• 1:02:20
  "Oh, okay. I left a relationship eight years ago." Well, part of that,
• 1:02:25
  or seven and a half years ago,
• 1:02:26
  that part of that pattern recognition was recognizing a pattern from a
• 1:02:31
  past scenario where I linked them and said, "Oh,
• 1:02:35
  Uranus just opened a door for me. I think I better go through this.
• 1:02:40
  I don't want to, but I have to.
• 1:02:43
  ".
• 1:02:43
  And so that's how we evolve through discomfort as we ...
• 1:02:46
  And this is where the Aries energy in April, I think,
• 1:02:49
  is going to give us all a big boost of courage to
• 1:02:55
  work in a new way so that we can
• 1:03:01
  feel ...
• 1:03:04
  My courage doesn't come from not being afraid.
• 1:03:06
  My courage comes from being massively afraid of
• 1:03:11
  certain things just like anybody else.
• 1:03:14
  But recognizing the thread of pattern,
• 1:03:17
  if I'm here to take myself into the fullest experience possible,
• 1:03:22
  I inevitably will use that courage in spite of my fear to
• 1:03:27
  move myself forward.
• 1:03:29
  So yeah, on that note of the rear view mirror, I'm curious,
• 1:03:32
  you mentioned Three Eye Atlas,
• 1:03:35
  and I didn't know what this was before we hung out to do this podcast.
• 1:03:39
  And so I'm curious if you could mention what that is and when that kind of went
• 1:03:43
  down, because maybe that would be a good rear view moment for people to get that
• 1:03:48
  orientation.
• 1:03:49
  Themselves. Okay, very good.
• 1:03:51
  So Three Eye Atlas is an object.
• 1:03:57
  Three is the third eye interstellar object.
• 1:04:01
  It was first seen in July of 2025.
• 1:04:07
  I think it was an observe, I don't know what it's called,
• 1:04:09
  but I think it was in Spain where they're going to observe that or see that
• 1:04:13
  called Atlas, so named for the place where it was first seen.
• 1:04:17
  I'm pretty sure you can fact check me,
• 1:04:21
  but it was first thought to be a comet,
• 1:04:24
  still may have some properties of the comet, but
• 1:04:28
  it's the third interstellar,
• 1:04:30
  meaning the third recorded object that has come in from outside of our solar
• 1:04:34
  system.
• 1:04:36
  Wow.
• 1:04:36
  But it has some properties to it that are unusual.
• 1:04:41
  So in the spiritual, mystical, astrological, and even scientific community,
• 1:04:47
  there's a lot of curiosity about what this is because it is organic matter.
• 1:04:52
  And
• 1:04:54
  part of what's so curious about it is that on,
• 1:04:58
  if I can remember this correctly, on October 3rd,
• 1:05:02
  it passed by Mars. Now we're talking light years,
• 1:05:05
  not like your neighbor's house down the street or something,
• 1:05:08
  but it passed by Mars, I'm pretty sure on October 3rd.
• 1:05:12
  And then it made its closest past to the sun. It was like,
• 1:05:17
  here's the earth and here's the sun, and then it was behind the sun.
• 1:05:20
  So that was on October 31st,
• 1:05:24
  so received the codes and infused the code.
• 1:05:27
  And it also infused plasma codes.
• 1:05:30
  I'm really simplifying this
• 1:05:35
  in a way where we've been having all these solar flares.
• 1:05:38
  So there's these emissions of energy that the earth and all of
• 1:05:43
  what's happening with the weather and different things,
• 1:05:46
  but our bodies are receiving this as well. Then on November 3rd,
• 1:05:50
  it passed by Venus. And then on December 19th,
• 1:05:54
  it makes its closest past to earth.
• 1:05:58
  And then in March, I can't remember the date in March.
• 1:06:03
  For some reason, I want to say March 11th,
• 1:06:05
  but that might be when Jupiter goes direct, but it's in, I think it's March,
• 1:06:10
  where it then makes its last pass by a planet by
• 1:06:14
  Jupiter before it leaves our solar system. And so on December 19th,
• 1:06:20
  which is the new moon in Sagittarius at 28 degrees Sagittarius,
• 1:06:24
  28 degrees sage is the degree of the galactic center of our solar
• 1:06:29
  system.
• 1:06:30
  And I just think about that galactic center and then
• 1:06:35
  opening us up into the mystery of infinity.
• 1:06:38
  So it feels as if we are receiving something that everyone will
• 1:06:43
  receive. Now, not everyone's going to be down with going, "Yeah,
• 1:06:46
  I received something." But I would say, "What have you noticed about your life,
• 1:06:50
  about your awareness about the breaking open, the breaking part of the breaking
• 1:06:57
  through?" Because I think it's going to be really,
• 1:07:00
  really significant because one of the things that I'm fascinated by,
• 1:07:04
  and there's tons of content out there, but the truth is no one knows.
• 1:07:08
  I don't know, no one knows. But supposedly
• 1:07:15
  it's coming from the origin point of everything.
• 1:07:18
  It is coming from an ancient ... It's a rock flying through space,
• 1:07:23
  but it's got plasma and it's changing shape.
• 1:07:28
  And supposedly it contains consciousness from other
• 1:07:34
  areas beyond our known reality that go to the
• 1:07:39
  origin of everything, like ancient, ancient,
• 1:07:44
  ancient galactic wisdom,
• 1:07:47
  unknown to anyone ever before as if it is ...
• 1:07:51
  But it also feels, as I'm saying this, like it's on a reconnaissance.
• 1:07:55
  It's also checking things out.
• 1:07:58
  And so while it's not a spaceship or a craft or got beings on it,
• 1:08:04
  it's got consciousness.
• 1:08:05
  So there's an awareness that there is consciousness to it
• 1:08:11
  And comets don't typically have consciousness.
• 1:08:14
  That's fascinating.
• 1:08:16
  And so what is that going to do to the evolution of human consciousness for all
• 1:08:21
  of us in 2026 so people can look at that?
• 1:08:25
  Yeah. And in looking at a rear view mirror moment when you talked about it being
• 1:08:30
  closest to us on December 19th, we're filming this right now,
• 1:08:33
  we're coming up on it. Exactly. So we don't know, but when we look back,
• 1:08:38
  but from when this airs, when people are listening to this,
• 1:08:41
  they can look back and be like, okay,
• 1:08:44
  what went on for me around the solstice?
• 1:08:46
  What was there like a revelation or opening in my awareness,
• 1:08:51
  a shift in my consciousness?
• 1:08:52
  Or change in your experience or what started to show up that really asked you
• 1:08:57
  ... I'm a Taurus,
• 1:08:59
  so I always think about things from a very practical reality of
• 1:09:04
  my lived experience because I've always said spiritual wisdom is useless unless
• 1:09:09
  you can actually embody it and use it to move your life forward.
• 1:09:13
  It's not enough to just hang out in it. You have to work with it.
• 1:09:18
  And so I would say to people, what has changed in,
• 1:09:22
  or how have you,
• 1:09:24
  maybe how did your compass get reset so that that
• 1:09:28
  synchronistic magic of the universe started to bring you in
• 1:09:34
  coherence in your physical reality with opportunities to choose differently,
• 1:09:41
  drastically differently, subliminally differently,
• 1:09:44
  ordinarily differently in every way possible.
• 1:09:48
  Yeah.
• 1:09:48
  Does that make sense?
• 1:09:49
  Yeah, that's what it is, right? Opportunities to.
• 1:09:52
  Choose differently. Yeah. And I mean, I am very
• 1:09:58
  curious and I can feel like I have actually ...
• 1:10:02
  The reason I really believe it has consciousness is because I have been having a
• 1:10:06
  visceral experience of waves of energy that I've never felt before
• 1:10:11
  since ... Yoranis went into Gemini,
• 1:10:14
  but also since this discovery in July,
• 1:10:18
  there is lots of great content about this.
• 1:10:20
  I'll just name some people I've listened to, Kelly Kolodny,
• 1:10:24
  Pam Gregory has talked about it. There's many people talking about it.
• 1:10:28
  So many people,
• 1:10:29
  Stefan Burns is a geophysicist who's talking about the science of it.
• 1:10:34
  But yeah,
• 1:10:37
  that's a part of the mystery that I'm very excited about right now in terms of
• 1:10:41
  my personal reality, like saying I'm ready for some shifts,
• 1:10:45
  but I'm also feeling
• 1:10:48
  like anxiety and nervousness because I'm a Taurus.
• 1:10:54
  This doesn't seem that stable. The changes.
• 1:10:59
  Tourist's.
• 1:10:59
  Favorite thing.
• 1:11:02
  I have a tourist moon, so I get that. And yeah,
• 1:11:07
  I'm curious to just tie this into the rest of the year because I had
• 1:11:12
  asked you before we started, I was like, "Okay, well,
• 1:11:15
  so what about the rest of the year?" And we had touched on these themes
• 1:11:20
  of the unknowable, approaching the mystery not knowing.
• 1:11:24
  And so I feel like this ties into what you said to me about the rest of the year
• 1:11:27
  when I was like, "Well, what about the rest of the year, Liz?" Should I answer.
• 1:11:30
  The way I answered? Yeah. Well, what about the rest of the year?
• 1:11:34
  I haven't looked. I don't know. I have no clue. I haven't tuned in.
• 1:11:39
  I don't tune in in that way. I feel like,
• 1:11:44
  and I think I will own this as my wiring,
• 1:11:47
  but I like to be surprised.
• 1:11:51
  I'm somebody where I can remember in my former partnership,
• 1:11:55
  she would buy play tickets or something, and I wouldn't want to know anything.
• 1:12:00
  I would just want to go to the play and let the play happen and know zero about
• 1:12:05
  it. I love my moon and sage, loves, loves,
• 1:12:09
  loves to go into experiences where I don't know anyone.
• 1:12:14
  I have no idea what's going to happen,
• 1:12:16
  and that's kind of how I feel about the year.
• 1:12:18
  I.
• 1:12:19
  Don't know.
• 1:12:20
  Yeah. Well, it sounds like there's also a lot that is, as you're saying,
• 1:12:24
  unknowable. So we know the most recent energies we've been in,
• 1:12:28
  we can look at the energies that we're right about to move into.
• 1:12:32
  And beyond that, there is a lot that's dependent on our.
• 1:12:36
  Choices. And the thing is astrology,
• 1:12:40
  there's always something happening and there's always, "Oh my God,
• 1:12:45
  it's Mercury Retrograde. Oh my God, it's an eclipse. Oh my God,
• 1:12:48
  Mars is square Saturn. Oh my God. Oh my God." And we can live in that way,
• 1:12:53
  but the astrology is always happening.
• 1:12:58
  And I've just learned, I'm not going to dodge your duck. Come on,
• 1:13:01
  just let it happen. But yeah,
• 1:13:05
  that's kind of how I think I approached the second half of ...
• 1:13:08
  I actually haven't gone beyond Uranus going into Gemini. I feel so
• 1:13:13
  almost like, okay, let's just see.
• 1:13:17
  And I can't get beyond that. It.
• 1:13:21
  Seems like big things are happening in this first quarter of the year that
• 1:13:27
  we'll find the rest of it.
• 1:13:29
  And I think the astrology weather is always available to us,
• 1:13:33
  but the biggest piece of advice I would give for this moment in time is
• 1:13:39
  the weather is the weather is the weather. It's happening,
• 1:13:44
  but when we match the weather that is ahead
• 1:13:49
  with the dimensional upgrade that the whole planet and the whole
• 1:13:54
  solar system is well underway in,
• 1:13:58
  it's really impossible.
• 1:14:00
  And it almost feels irresponsible for me to say,
• 1:14:04
  look out for this because everyone's going to approach the
• 1:14:09
  weather ahead from their perspective.
• 1:14:12
  And our perspective is the lens through which we see everything.
• 1:14:17
  And that is undergoing a massive lens cleanse right now.
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  And so it's hard to say what I see now,
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  is my lens still needing cleansing.
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  And so I might not be seeing clearly that feels like the Neptune fog of 29
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  degrees Pisces as we're recording this of
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  I'm in liminal land. I'm hanging out at that wall.
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  I'm about to go into the fairy realm.
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  I don't know what I'm going to discover there. Yeah.
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  Yeah. And we've touched on this, I think,
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  a good bit throughout this, but I'm curious,
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  one of the last questions I had for you was, how do you see this year,
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  this movement that we're in right now fitting into the larger
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  soul patterns that are at play on our planet in this
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  epoch? It's.
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  Huge. How do I see the larger soul pattern?
• 1:15:11
  Yeah. Yeah.
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  I'm curious in how this year is fitting into that longer story.
• 1:15:17
  And I didn't know this about you before I wrote the question down,
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  but it feels even more pertinent with you naming that Uranus and Neptune and
• 1:15:26
  Pluto are for you more telling more- They're the big three. Yeah,
• 1:15:30
  they're the big three for you.
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  And those are these planets with these really long cycles and these long
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  generational journeys.
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  I'm curious what you see as sort of this generational or soul
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  larger program or pattern that the arc that we're in right now.
• 1:15:47
  Yeah. Wow.
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  I feel like 2012 was such a kind of time stamp
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  that has brought us to this current moment.
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  And when we think about these longer cycles that
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  honestly take us into, for me,
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  links to the immortal ineffable,
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  infinite nature of existence.That's my playground.
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  But if we can find comfort in releasing urgency,
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  because everything is so urgent right now as part of the collapse,
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  and that urgency has a place.
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  And also if we can be in this space of duality of holding that urgency and
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  also holding this sense of the infinite nature of
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  time, it's like we're being rearranged at a molecular level,
• 1:16:49
  our bodies. And that's why the latter,
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  that's why for the last number of years, I mean,
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  even in as we were entering 2020,
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  I was saying in my readings a lot, wow, based on my pattern recognition,
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  it feels like we're reincarnating without dropping the body,
• 1:17:08
  that we have our memories, we have our experiences,
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  but we're still in the same vessel,
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  but we have to move into a new incarnation.
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  And I think 2026 is the beginning of the new incarnation in
• 1:17:23
  a fully formed way and fully formed meaning like a newborn.
• 1:17:28
  Wow, that feels really profound. And I really resonate with
• 1:17:34
  that turning point of 2020. It's like, yeah,
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  it was like a whole new thing started, a whole new existence.
• 1:17:42
  And I've been also feeling this sense of like, yeah,
• 1:17:45
  whatever it was that was starting around then,
• 1:17:48
  it's like reaching some sort of turning point apex culmination
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  beginning again.
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  Now. It's like,
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  who do you want to be now as we are in 2026 when this airs in
• 1:18:00
  February? Who do you want to be? Who have you been longing to be?
• 1:18:04
  I feel like that's how I've been orienting to the Saturn Neptune and Pisces is
• 1:18:08
  really tuning into my longings and also the longings that hold a
• 1:18:13
  lot of grief and the longings of whatever,
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  the way that life takes us there.
• 1:18:22
  But yeah,
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  the soul story is changing and which means the
• 1:18:29
  form story is changing.
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  And I think we all need to leave a lot of room
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  in our personal realities to
• 1:18:45
  dial in back to Saturn, back to discipline.
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  What do we want to be a disciple of? And for me,
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  I want to be a disciple of love and compassion and care for my
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  community, for everyone I encounter.
• 1:18:59
  That is my discipleship is for me. And I know that from my chart,
• 1:19:04
  so that takes me into ...
• 1:19:09
  I've kind of recommitted back to one-to-one readings,
• 1:19:12
  which I've never left that, but I've been through so much stuff.
• 1:19:17
  Now I'm in this recommitment is just really people taking time to do
• 1:19:23
  inner work,
• 1:19:24
  whether it's one-on-one with a really good astrology reading or a really good
• 1:19:28
  anything kind of anything where you can turn the dial to you
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  specifically,
• 1:19:36
  because you specifically is the collective.
• 1:19:43
  And so we are always going out there to dial the collective,
• 1:19:48
  but I'm the collective, you're the collective. And when we all meet from that
• 1:19:54
  discippleship place,
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  then we're working in harmony for the collective from a place of love,
• 1:20:01
  which is what we're moving into is the transcendent power of love.
• 1:20:05
  That's what the new paradigm is going to be based in.
• 1:20:08
  And I hope I see it in my lifetime.
• 1:20:11
  Yeah, I hope so too.
• 1:20:13
  Yeah.
• 1:20:13
  We're here for the shifting.
• 1:20:16
  Totally.
• 1:20:16
  And we're a part of that. And yeah,
• 1:20:18
  everything that you said about that discipleship,
• 1:20:20
  like what is your discipleship that's so much at the heart of ... Yeah,
• 1:20:25
  my journey is asking that question and.
• 1:20:27
  This podcast- And I'm waiting to see it. I'm just going to go ahead and be it.
• 1:20:31
  Yeah. Right. Yeah. And that's where very courage comes in.
• 1:20:35
  So we keep weaving all ... It's like DNA. We're really,
• 1:20:38
  we're moving into a new activation of DNA
• 1:20:43
  that people want to call junk DNA, but that is not junk DNA.
• 1:20:47
  It is very galactic and has a very important and
• 1:20:52
  impactful purpose.
• 1:20:53
  And I think that we all as volunteers to be here on the planet now,
• 1:20:58
  this is a place of mastery. So it's no easy feat to say, "Yeah,
• 1:21:03
  I want to be in limitation.".
• 1:21:05
  Yeah, I'll sign up for that for whatever reason.
• 1:21:08
  And yet there's so much beauty in the experience of limitation and
• 1:21:13
  I-.
• 1:21:13
  Creative constraints of existence.
• 1:21:15
  Yeah.
• 1:21:16
  So that's how I'll get the most out of it for the betterment of our collective
• 1:21:20
  experience.
• 1:21:22
  Yeah.
• 1:21:22
  Yeah.
• 1:21:23
  Well, thank you so much, Liz, for being here,
• 1:21:28
  for giving us this read into the big energies,
• 1:21:32
  weather that we're moving through right now,
• 1:21:34
  the portals really that are opening for us in this year.
• 1:21:36
  I really appreciate your visioning,
• 1:21:39
  you're channeling everything that you are bringing in. And yeah,
• 1:21:43
  I'm curious what you have going on,
• 1:21:46
  how people could connect to you if people are listening and being like,
• 1:21:51
  "This person I want to connect more with. I'm really feeling and receiving this.
• 1:21:54
  " How would people do that?
• 1:21:56
  Okay. Well,
• 1:21:57
  I will say I'm not on social media and haven't been for many years
• 1:22:02
  on there, but I just don't have the energy or the bandwidth.
• 1:22:06
  I don't know if I'll be back. So my website,
• 1:22:09
  lizgun.net is a great way to contact me. I will say, as you know,
• 1:22:14
  I'm very relational. I like relationships, I like connection.
• 1:22:17
  So I don't have online scheduling. It's like, email me, text me.
• 1:22:22
  I'm very personal in that way. And
• 1:22:28
  when I knew you were going to ask me what I have going on,
• 1:22:31
  my first thought was like, "I don't know.
• 1:22:33
  " But I will say what I always have going on is my one-to-one readings.
• 1:22:37
  So that is a great way to zoom in and see what does it mean for you.
• 1:22:42
  And I just sent out something to my client list about looking at
• 1:22:46
  astrology as a giant clock and understanding from a galactics perspective what
• 1:22:51
  time it is for you. So a reading would be a great time to say,
• 1:22:54
  "What time is it for me? " In a very dialed in
• 1:22:59
  esoteric and practical way.
• 1:23:01
  I do have a year long mentoring experience
• 1:23:06
  that's on my website called Gateway to the Mystical Path that's a 24 session
• 1:23:11
  experience over a year's time.
• 1:23:14
  And it's not something at this point that with the reading requests that I
• 1:23:19
  can do as my full-time work, it's also really deep.
• 1:23:22
  So I'm opening that back up on the Equinox
• 1:23:26
  For six to eight people because it's every other week,
• 1:23:30
  so that would be something people could explore.
• 1:23:36
  So I just really received this as a transmission the
• 1:23:41
  other day as a small group gathering.
• 1:23:44
  And the way I think I would say now as an offering is
• 1:23:49
  if anybody wanted to host this on Zoom or in person,
• 1:23:52
  if you're in the Southeast in person, but on Zoom otherwise,
• 1:23:58
  I really love doing these very organic small group gatherings.
• 1:24:02
  So this would be,
• 1:24:04
  the way that I wrote it was the living wisdom of the astrology for 2026 is
• 1:24:09
  uncharted territory. We all need guides, signposts,
• 1:24:12
  and accompass reset for what awaits each of us in this unfamiliar cosmic
• 1:24:17
  landscape. No doubt you feel deeply the karmic closure of natural endings,
• 1:24:22
  grief, letting go,
• 1:24:23
  and the somatic awareness of what the evolutionary collapse we are living
• 1:24:26
  through feels like in your body.
• 1:24:29
  What if the planets and stars moving through the heavens were galactic
• 1:24:33
  neurotransmitters sending signals pertaining directly to you?
• 1:24:38
  How might you respond to life, new choices, challenges,
• 1:24:41
  and the potential for joy with greater trust?
• 1:24:43
  What if the body held the codes for understanding the messages each planet
• 1:24:47
  transmitted like keys unlocking a doorway into a new reality?
• 1:24:51
  How might you release fear and participate more fully with your one wild and
• 1:24:55
  precious life?
• 1:24:58
  So it's really about joining a discussion or creating an opportunity for a
• 1:25:03
  discussion in a small group way to talk about these. What is it like?
• 1:25:08
  What is Saturn feeling like in your body? And then often in a small group,
• 1:25:12
  I'll have people's charts and I'll do a Q&A based on this content and I'll offer
• 1:25:18
  channeled messages from their chart.
• 1:25:19
  Oh, that's brilliant.
• 1:25:21
  Sorry I had to read that, but I just did it and I was like,
• 1:25:24
  "What did I just say I was going to do? " Awesome. Yeah.
• 1:25:27
  So those are my offerings. It's basically my one-on-one work, the mentoring,
• 1:25:32
  and then opening back up to small groups in whatever way that can look like.
• 1:25:37
  Yeah. Awesome. Liz, thank you so much for being here.
• 1:25:41
  Thank you for everything that you shared. And yeah,
• 1:25:44
  I'm really grateful for your guidance and your wisdom,
• 1:25:47
  your wisdom in this world.
• 1:25:48
  Thank you.
• 1:25:49
  And I'm so happy to be on your platform and offering
• 1:25:54
  this to the people that love you. Thank you.
• 1:25:58
  Yeah. Thank you. Thank you so much, Liz.
• 1:26:01
  And thank you to everyone who's been listening.
• 1:26:04
  I'm so grateful for your presence here.
• 1:26:06
  So grateful for all the ways now in which you've walked with me for almost a
• 1:26:10
  year in this podcast.
• 1:26:11
  We're coming up on the one-year anniversary of this podcast.
• 1:26:15
  If you have not yet left a rating or review, it would just mean the world to me.
• 1:26:20
  It would be one of the biggest blessings if you did that.
• 1:26:23
  If you loved this episode, I'd love to hear about it.
• 1:26:25
  You can leave me a voice message over on my website,
• 1:26:31
  asiasular.com/remember. And I hope that what we talked about today,
• 1:26:34
  the energies,
• 1:26:35
  the weather that we've explored that we're walking into for 2026 really
• 1:26:41
  helps you in your evolution, in your unfolding,
• 1:26:44
  and in remembering that most important thing of all, why you're here.