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Best of Chuck & Buck 2-6 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: it here on a football Friday, because the next thing
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  Speaker 1: that happens is the game. As soon as we leave here,
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  Speaker 1: the next thing we're focusing on is the game on Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: and that game needs to have nick Emon Worri in it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's face it, the bomb was dropped that he injured
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  Speaker 1: his ankle and practice on Wednesday. I think I kind
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  Speaker 1: of felt like, man, it's an injured ankle, it's Wednesday.
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna be fine by Sunday. And then Greg Bell
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  Speaker 1: came in yesterday with a sort of an ominous tone
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  Speaker 1: to his voice about it. I said, are they ready
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  Speaker 1: to go? He goes, no, they are not ready to go.
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  Speaker 1: And this nick Emon Worri injury is serious and there's
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  Speaker 1: video of him seriously severely limping into a building on
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday night, And so yeah, I know these doctors Buckey
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  Speaker 1: can do a lot of things in a short period
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  Speaker 1: of time to get injured players ready for a game.
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  Speaker 1: But of all the guys with the exception of Sam Darnold,
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  Speaker 1: that needs to be one hundred percent healthy. I think
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  Speaker 1: he might be the guy that we need to play
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  Speaker 1: it play well on Sunday. Maybe not one hundred percent,
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  Speaker 1: but he needs.
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  Speaker 2: To be healthy. Yeah, he's got to be healthy enough
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  Speaker 2: that he's not a detriment to the team, and I
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  Speaker 2: don't think they'll put him out there if he is.
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  Speaker 2: He yesterday, I mean the video after we got the
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  Speaker 2: report that he had rolled his ankle, how he was limping.
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  Speaker 2: He're like ooh, and then Greig comes in and says, hell,
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  Speaker 2: how certain are they that he probably sixty percent?
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  Speaker 1: Sixty percent?
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  Speaker 2: Like I was thinking, like, that's seventy five eighty percent
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  Speaker 2: is what he was going to say. Sixty percent was
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  Speaker 2: far more ominous than I than I was expecting the
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  Speaker 2: prognosis to be.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, if I'd have known that, I'd be like, hey, Caliendo,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not jokey mood. Yeah not, you keep your jokes
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  Speaker 1: to yourself. We've got an injured star defender.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, listen, sixty yeah. But then you saw the
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  Speaker 2: video yesterday of him walking around after is they were
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  Speaker 2: leaving media day, and it was hardly noticeable. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you're right what they can do. I tend to kind
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  Speaker 2: of err on the side of they're gonna be fine,
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  Speaker 2: even though I don't know that to be true. Not
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  Speaker 2: everybody has the same pain tolerance. I don't know exactly
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  Speaker 2: how well the medical staff does it nowadays. I just
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  Speaker 2: know courtisan shots are amazing. They they really do mask
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  Speaker 2: a lot of pain. And so I just was thinking
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  Speaker 2: to myself, it's not going to be that big of
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  Speaker 2: a deal. But if all of a sudden the sixty
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  Speaker 2: percent thing comes out and he's just guessing, right, I
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  Speaker 2: don't think they told him we're only about sixty percent
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  Speaker 2: positive he's a play. He was just hearing reading between
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  Speaker 2: the lines of how worried they were about it and
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  Speaker 2: what it looked like when he saw him put his
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  Speaker 2: eyes on him limping around and coming off the field.
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  Speaker 2: So I think there is something to the idea of, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's a dude that you definitely need is a He's
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  Speaker 2: he's that Swiss army knife on defense that you can
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  Speaker 2: basically counter whatever they bring in, right, I mean, the
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  Speaker 2: chess match between Josh McDaniel and Mike McDonald is, okay,
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  Speaker 2: what are they gonna do? What do I think they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna do, and then you read into that based on
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  Speaker 2: the person know that they bring out there. Well, Mike
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  Speaker 2: McDonald when he has even worried basically being a safety
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  Speaker 2: but playing like a Sam linebacker that we've heard multiple
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  Speaker 2: people discuss him as he can just match up regardless
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  Speaker 2: of what you want to do. He can match up
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  Speaker 2: with your one of your better wide receivers. He can
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  Speaker 2: set the edge like a defensive end in the run game.
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  Speaker 2: So to not have him would have been huge. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it would have been big. It's not like you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: not play with the player. You would had somebody step
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  Speaker 2: in there. But it's obvious it would not have been
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  Speaker 2: the same type of athlete that he is.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if there is any truth to the you
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  Speaker 1: know Sam Donald thing like he doesn't really have an
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  Speaker 1: oblique injuries, just trying to throw him for a loop, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: which we don't buy.
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  Speaker 2: We don't believe that.
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  Speaker 3: But if.
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  Speaker 1: You know, taking that and running it through the Jai
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  Speaker 1: and or see me the Emon warri filter, well that
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  Speaker 1: would throw another team for a loop, Like that's a
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  Speaker 1: completely different preparation. Yeah, don't you think that if you
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  Speaker 1: have Eman Warrior, don't have Emon Worry out there, like,
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  Speaker 1: you're you need to prepare for Emon Worri. Yeah, you're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna be able to replicate that. You're not gonna
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  Speaker 1: be able to figure out what this defense looks like.
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  Speaker 1: Now if it doesn't have Emon Worri. How does Josh
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  Speaker 1: McDaniel's even gonna deal with that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think they still would prepare as if you're
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  Speaker 2: going to have him, because what yeah, it's the last
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  Speaker 2: game of the season. I mean, they would rip Mike
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  Speaker 2: Rabel's new NFL Coach of the Year award. They would
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  Speaker 2: rip it off of his chest or wherever they put
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  Speaker 2: the patch, they would rip it off. If he all
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  Speaker 2: of a sudden loses in the Super Bowl and he
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  Speaker 2: he comes to his press conference, he's like, well, he
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  Speaker 2: totally changed our game plan. Thinking that the Emon Worry
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  Speaker 2: guy wasn't going to be in there, and then he
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  Speaker 2: was there, totally wrecked their game plan. I mean, you've
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  Speaker 2: got to prepare he wasn't going to be there.
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  Speaker 4: Greg Bel said, sixty chance he was playing, So we
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  Speaker 4: just playing for the forty.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, forty. We just totally threw We walked in there
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  Speaker 2: basically completely hamstrung. We didn't have half of our playbook.
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  Speaker 2: We thought he wasn't gonna play. I mean, that would
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  Speaker 2: be against.
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  Speaker 1: Ten men on defense all week long. We didn't think
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  Speaker 1: they were allowed to replace him. This was a soccer that.
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  Speaker 2: Would be bad. I think they're preparing for him to play,
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  Speaker 2: obviously they're I mean, you have to. You have to
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  Speaker 2: be pretty hurt to not want to play or not
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  Speaker 2: go out there and play in a super Bowl, especially
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  Speaker 2: you know what, you don't know. He's got guys on
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  Speaker 2: his team that have been playing for ten plus years
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  Speaker 2: and this is the first time they get to a
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  Speaker 2: super Bowl. Now this is his first year and he's
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  Speaker 2: getting he's right in one. So I think that there
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  Speaker 2: is something to the idea of is he going to
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  Speaker 2: be the same emon worry. I suppose he's probably the
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  Speaker 2: biggest concern at this point because he was breaking down
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  Speaker 2: where yeah, he can probably still tough it out setting
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  Speaker 2: an edge, but you try to stay up with a
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  Speaker 2: shifty receiver out in space if you're not one hundred
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  Speaker 2: percent healthy, that could be a different Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, by your own admission, you're the third best athlete
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  Speaker 1: at this table. But you I heard it. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think we could replay it for it. But yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: are a you are a former professional athlete. So I
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  Speaker 1: just you know, you sprain your ankle on Wednesday before.
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  Speaker 2: The World Series begins.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, sprain your an lower ankle. Sprain and it hurts,
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  Speaker 1: and you're limping around and people see video of you
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  Speaker 1: and you're like, oh gosh, it doesn't look like it
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  Speaker 1: could play right now. I mean, what's running through your head?
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  Speaker 2: What are you?
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about d h. You got to
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  Speaker 1: play the field. You got to do all the twists
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  Speaker 1: and turns that you would have to do in a
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  Speaker 1: normal game. I mean, what's your mindset? If somebody said
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  Speaker 1: you're sixty percent right now.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to be telling well, watch what I do
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  Speaker 2: with sixty percent watch this? I mean it just I am.
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  Speaker 2: I would be willing to bet that even in the
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  Speaker 2: midst of the niche pain of it. He said something
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  Speaker 2: to the people when they're hovering around him on the practice,
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  Speaker 2: You're like, dude, are you all right?
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  Speaker 3: Oh man?
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  Speaker 2: Oh it hurts? How is it? I'm fine. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: be fine. I'll bet you within five minutes he said,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to be fine.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And now whether or not he was when he was
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  Speaker 2: limping around like but the fact that he wasn't in
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  Speaker 2: a walking boot, and you know, I mean, it's just
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  Speaker 2: you get the stem and the ice and then you
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  Speaker 2: heat it up and you're moving it around. They get
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  Speaker 2: those compression chambers. Now you can put on your legs,
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  Speaker 2: and then a shot that they inevitably were going to
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  Speaker 2: put in there, I would almost guarantee it. I think
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  Speaker 2: that he was certain he was going to play. It
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  Speaker 2: would take a lot more than just a rolled ankle. Now,
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  Speaker 2: certain things you can't play through, right, a high ankle
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  Speaker 2: sprain I don't think you can, but just a normal
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  Speaker 2: ankle sprain. I think that he probably was immediately thinking
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  Speaker 2: I'm rock and rolling. I know that's where I would
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  Speaker 2: have been. But then again, I've never tried to play
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  Speaker 2: defense in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: Either shoot me up, tape me up. Yeah, do whatever
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  Speaker 1: you need. I'm playing in this game, but I will
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  Speaker 1: chew through these walls if you try to keep me playing.
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  Speaker 4: The most promising thing, too, was him saying when he
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  Speaker 4: woke up, he wasn't he was okay, like, oh, it's
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  Speaker 4: not that it's not that bad, because you know, after
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  Speaker 4: you sleep and then it gets stiff overnight. You'd think
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  Speaker 4: that would be really sore and pretty painful the next morning,
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  Speaker 4: and he seemed to be like, no, it's not too bad.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he's one hundred percent going to Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's just as Bucky mentioned earlier, we talked about a
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  Speaker 1: little bit yesterday. What what's he going to play at?
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  Speaker 1: Is he eighty percent capable, eighty five percent capable? You know,
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  Speaker 1: who knows? Ninety two percent stef who knows. But that's
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  Speaker 1: that's the significance, that's the factor in the in the
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  Speaker 1: game plan, and he's just it just highlights his importance.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe New England doesn't realize how important he is.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe Patriot fans don't realize how important he is. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: the national narrative doesn't realize how important Number three is
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  Speaker 1: to the Seahawks defense.
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  Speaker 2: But we do.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, maybe there's some Patriot fan out there, like,
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  Speaker 1: what are you all worried about? I've never even heard
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  Speaker 1: of this guy? Right, Well, he was and he is
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  Speaker 1: about as valuable a player on the best defense, arguably
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  Speaker 1: in the National Football League that there is. And so
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  Speaker 1: this is a big deal, This is a really big deal.
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  Speaker 1: His health heading into Sunday, well, I have Greg Bell
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  Speaker 1: on at seven oh five to update this coming up
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  Speaker 1: next though. We've done it every Friday before a Seahawks
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  Speaker 1: And he made the trip to Radio Row just to
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  Speaker 2: You don't have to do that. Oh I want to
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  Speaker 2: do that.
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  Speaker 5: You're actually doing this for Wendy Bell. Yeah, it was
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  Speaker 5: still outside of the street waiting to come in. Is
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  Speaker 5: that right, She's still out there. That's how you stay married,
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  Speaker 5: because you you have to handwalk her instead of got
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  Speaker 5: I gotta wash, I gotta dry my hair. I muld
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  Speaker 5: have been here a half hour ago, but I've been.
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  Speaker 2: My hair.
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  Speaker 1: I'm still hear it, Wendy, my hair is still wet.
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  Speaker 1: I just keep it wet. Yeah, Yeah, that's what.
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  Speaker 5: I have with the irony of it is there are
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  Speaker 5: foofs on top of foofs that they let in here,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm trying to tell her that. I mean, she's
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  Speaker 5: not in the media, but at least she's she's not
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  Speaker 5: a foof anyway. But there's so many people that are
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  Speaker 5: in here, right Mom's basement people, all these people that
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  Speaker 5: are in here, and they're giving her hard time about
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  Speaker 5: a day pass to a pretty much open event. These
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  Speaker 5: to walk through Radio Row. Then Yeah, it was a
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  Speaker 5: big huha and this is much more restrictive.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well we'll see her.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it'll all work out, And I'm glad we got
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  Speaker 5: to expend extend our time together because we didn't even
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  Speaker 5: get to your keys.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what kind of game are you expecting on Sunday?
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  Speaker 1: What kind of result are you expecting?
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  Speaker 5: The key to me offensively is the same key they've
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  Speaker 5: had the entire postseason. If Sam Darnald turn the ball over,
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  Speaker 5: I don't see the Patriots scoring multiple touchdowns on long length,
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  Speaker 5: length of field drives after punch kickoffs.
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 5: I only see the Patriots scoring after turnovers. They may
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  Speaker 5: get a touchdown or two, but can I don't even
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  Speaker 5: think the Patriots can envision multiple eighty yr drives to
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  Speaker 5: touchdowns in this game.
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  Speaker 1: I know it was not saying Sam Darnold's got a
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  Speaker 1: turnover issue. That's just a football.
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  Speaker 5: Statement in any game, but especially when your defense is
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  Speaker 5: number one and pitch and outs. At this point in
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  Speaker 5: the playoffs, they're not playing the Browns. They've been pitching
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  Speaker 5: shutouts close to it, except for the Los Angeles rounds.
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  Speaker 5: You take out the Rams and they've been pretty damn
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  Speaker 5: good at keeping teams from driving eighty plus yards. So
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  Speaker 5: as long as they're not having first intend at the
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  Speaker 5: plus twenty five for New England, I don't see multiple
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  Speaker 5: touchdowns in this game.
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 5: Kenneth Walker. I talked to him. I wrote the story
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  Speaker 5: to the Newstribune dot Com right now. I put it
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  Speaker 5: up this morning. Kenneth Walker, I cannot thinking off the
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  Speaker 5: top of my head of a player who has had
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  Speaker 5: more personally at stake in a Super Bowl than he. Yes,
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  Speaker 5: Reek Wollan's contract is ending, but he doesn't touch the
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  Speaker 5: ball as much as and is involved at intricate to
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  Speaker 5: the result of lead running back. Yes, Rashid sha Heat
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  Speaker 5: is contract ending. They're gonna get that done, maybe before Wednesday.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that's going to be the first priority of
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  Speaker 5: the offseason. So Kenneth Walker has already made millions of
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  Speaker 5: dollars in the last two playoff games. He hired new
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  Speaker 5: as he mentioned David Cancer and the Rasports group in Florida.
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  Speaker 5: He's had an eye toward this for a while, and
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  Speaker 5: then when Zach Sharbone got hurt for the season ending injury,
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  Speaker 5: it's been all Kenneth Walker. If Kubiak wants to run,
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  Speaker 5: which we know he will and does.
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  Speaker 6: Nobody's tid. In San Jose, he was by himself at
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  Speaker 6: his table. Brady Russell was getting more media attention than
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  Speaker 6: Kenneth Walker. Oh he does have crazy hair, Yeah he does. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: And he doesn't wear a shirt for most of the
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  Speaker 6: pregames of every game.
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  Speaker 5: So he was getting videography groups and microphone booms and
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  Speaker 5: Kenneth Walker was just sitting there like he was a
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  Speaker 5: practice squad backup, and he'd say, Wow, I'd talk it
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  Speaker 5: too much more than I went to and this is
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  Speaker 5: fine with me.
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  Speaker 2: I'd rather just hang back.
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  Speaker 5: Kenneth Walker, he's going to get a new deal after
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  Speaker 5: the Super Bowl. I don't think it's going to be
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  Speaker 5: from Seattle. I think that he himself has priced himself
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  Speaker 5: out of Seattle. I don't think his representation is going
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  Speaker 5: to tell him, Hey, the team that hasn't given you
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  Speaker 5: an extension already, the team that has put you in
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  Speaker 5: a job share all season to diminish some of your
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  Speaker 5: available to show, let's sign with them before free agency starts.
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  Speaker 5: Once a guy, we've talked about this, once a guy
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  Speaker 5: gets to free agency for the first time, I at
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  Speaker 5: twenty five years old, he's gonna go to go check
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  Speaker 5: what the money is and test the market.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that's what's gonna happen with Walker.
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  Speaker 5: So tomorrow is his showcase for two hundred million each Sunday,
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  Speaker 5: for two hundred million people watching, including of your GM
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  Speaker 5: in the league.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that'd be nice. We had Matt Hasselback on earlier
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  Speaker 2: this week and he was talking, and we were talking
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  Speaker 2: to him about his preparation for his Super Bowl and
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  Speaker 2: he watched a bunch of replays and he wanted to
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  Speaker 2: see similarities between what quarterbacks did. And so the reason
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  Speaker 2: I'm bringing that up is he said, basically, every winning
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: quarterback let it rip, right, and we've watched him do that,
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: and we know the coaches are telling him, let it rip.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: We're not worried about you making a mistake or having
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: to be perfect. I'm wondering if there should be or
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: could be a game plan from Klint Kubiak coming from
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: Mike Donov Let's go get it, because I think that
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: one recipe for success could be jump out to an
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: early lead and make Drake May let you your guys
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: get to pin in their ears back because Drake May
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: has to beat you now through the passing game, and
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: you could possibly turn this thing into a blowout. Any
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: chance that they're gonna want to do that, I think
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: they're coming out throwing. I think they're pushing it ball
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: down the field to begin the game. I think Smith
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: and Jigbin and Rashishi Hi deep inside with the safeties to.
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: Try to put them in a quantity and stay out
• 16:28
  Speaker 5: in the out away from Gonzales and the outside guys.
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: I think they're going to push it to start the game,
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: to then open up Walker and start running the ball.
• 16:37
  Speaker 5: I don't think that's one of the other wrinkles. I
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: think now that with the two weeks and that they're
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: going to present to the Patriots.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: You're right, Kubiak usually establishes the run.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Establishes the run first.
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: They've got big plague players on offense, and if they
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: give time to throw, they're going to push it down
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: the field. That it's a misnomer with a team that
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: throws fifty percent of the time, they're just ground chucks.
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: They're not because of Smith and Jigba and the play
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: action passibility of Sam Darnold. I keep going back to this.
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: If they don't turn the ball over, I think they
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: win by three touchdowns. I don't see the Patriots scoring
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: multiple touchdowns and drive long drives on this defense.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: If the game goes the way Greg Bell thinks it's
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: going to go. Who's the Super Bowl MVP?
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: Ginger, that's the I think it's like eighty percent of
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: Super Bowl MVP as all the winning quarterbacks. It's something
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: like the numbers something like that if he doesn't turn
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: the ball over, he's probably going to be the MVP.
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: If he does turn the ball over, Nick even worried.
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: Devin Witherspoon, Leonard Williams, you could have a defensive MVP
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: and they win a thirteen seven, thirteen to ten game.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Just as long as it's not a Malcolm Smith. Well,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: if a deflected interception and it being dreat I'll put that.
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: I will take that to note. I have a Super
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: Bowl MVP vote on the during the game. The NFL
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: has asked me to be one of the voters, so
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: I will take that into consideration. Chuck Howley back in
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: the day, a defensive MVP for the Cowboys. Easy answers
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: Jackson Smith and Jigba. I think he's he's going to
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: have his big plays. Kenneth Walker could end up the
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: guy that statistically has the biggest day. I don't know
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: if that'll end up being an MVP because the quarterback
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: of a winning Super Bowl team, I guess that always
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: gets it. But the most impacting numbers and plays could
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: end up being from Kenneth Walker.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, what is what are a couple of other things
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: that maybe we haven't asked you about that we need
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: to know. I mean, this is our last conversation with
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: you before the Super Bowl. For goodness sake, what are
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: we leaving out of this conversation.
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: Well, Kenneth Walker. I found this out yesterday writing my story.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: I was the NFL dug up the fact that Walker
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: has joined two Hall of Famers. That's the only three
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: guys to have have one hundred and twenty five yards
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: from scrimmage plus average per game and two touchdowns per
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: game in the playoffs in a single playoffs. The only
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: other two guys to do that Terrell Davis, Bucky's Guy
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: from nineteen ninety seven.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: More of he's more Bucky's Guy today than he's ever.
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: Been I know, ye yes, yeah yeah, And Jerry Rice
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: from nineteen eighty eight. Those are the only two guys
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: that do what Kennth Walker's done in the first two
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: playoff games this year.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: And he's sitting by himself in media availability, at the table,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: by himself defensively.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: I think the Nicky Maworry thing is a product of
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: the Super Bowl hype. It's overblown. I think he's gonna
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: be fine. I think that it happened happening on a
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: Wednesday turned out to be fortuitous instead of it of
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: being a Friday again, I covered Cam Chancellor tearing his
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: mcl and his knee and still playing, and that happened
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: on a Friday. These guys will go to extraordinary links
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: to play in this game. Even where yesterday said it,
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: I don't know if I'll ever get back there, he said,
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: I'm only my first year. I'm twenty two years old.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: He's amazing because so many paintings, so many twenty two
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: year olds, you know that had the season, are like,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be here fifteen years. For him to
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: have that mindset check another box, check another box for
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: nick em and worry and how great a career he's
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: going to have.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: And it was in the context of I'm playing and
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: he's basically said I'm playing because I may never get
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: back here. So the question at the top again and
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: how limited he is will affect their defense somewhat. But
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: Mike McDonald man give him two weeks to prepare for somebody, right,
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: He's usually okay.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: At the risk of being a homer.
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: But I am on the Seattle station that covered the
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: sea at the risk of being a homer. I've thought
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: a lot about this game, and the only way I
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: see him losing is giving like in Inglewood in November,
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: giving the Patriots multiple touchdown drives inside their own thirty
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: yard line, and that's turnovers, and Darnold has not turned
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: the ball over in a month.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, great stuff. Great to see you hang
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: out thirty one to ten one ten. Wow, well you
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: stepped it up a notch.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: That's not even clear.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Against three stairs right now.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: See usually when I throw that on the road on
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: my phone, but nobody stares at me.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: My wife's already the work.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: But I what's notable to me is that as the
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: week goes on, you're getting more competent. We just did
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: the roundtable, and I think you were at twenty seven
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: thirteen or twenty seven to seventeen, and now you're up
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: to thirty one ten one touchdown.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: From New England. Wow, huh.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not as far with you, but I'm with you, David,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I'm with you.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: They remind me offensively of San Francisco without Brock Purty
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: and Purty or Drake May runs the ball better than Purty,
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: more decisively four runs than Perty does. But I don't
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: think Drake May's as good as a passer as Brock
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: Purty is, and I don't think that Drake May has
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: the weapons, even with the injuries and Brina d Ayuk's exile.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: From the forty nine Ers.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: I think the forty nine ers offense, play calling and
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: weapons are better than New England's. Their quarterback runs better
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: in San Francisco's but type but similar type of offense,
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: and we've seen what Mike McDonald's done with that.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't see how their receivers get open. And
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: then I think Trayvon Henderson's their chance if he got
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: a big couple big runs and maybe it's a different game.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Ohio State puck.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, great to see you. Yeah, it's good
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: to be in person for change. Yeah, no doubt. Greg bell,
• 22:21
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• 22:24
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• 22:28
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  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, let it build, Let it build, Let
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: it build. Super Bowl sixty is almost here. It's a
• 23:16
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• 23:21
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  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl twenty twenty six, three point thirty kickoff.
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  Speaker 1: We've been in San Francisco all week long leading you
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: up to this golden moment coming on Sunday, and you
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: can feel it. I can feel it inside me. I
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: mean the energy takes a little while to get going
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: at radio road in the mornings, but the game itself
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: like they yesterday when we finished the roundtable, I'm like,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, it's here. I mean, we are at
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: the super Bowl, and so that that ain't anxiousness is
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: really building here this morning.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yesterday I was feeling it to the roundtable as well.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: And then when we went back to the house. I was,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: I was just scrolling through channels, and so then I
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: thought about channeling my inner Matt Hasselback and throwing the
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: remote behind the dresser, because I hear apparently that will
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: keep you from getting nervous. I don't know. I mean,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: I'm ready. I don't know exactly what you do at
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: this point in time, but yeah, it is. It is
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: right around the corner. I have to think the nerves
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: are building for the players.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, we get one more conversation with Hugh Mellen.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: X's and O's normally happens every Friday all football season
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: long at nine o'clock. Today we're doing it at eight o'clock.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: We have to have our QB one, you know, add
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: to that, add to that adrenaline that we're starting to
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: build up right now for Super Bowl Sunday. And so
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Hugh Millan joins us right here on chugging buck. Hello, quarterback.
• 24:52
  Speaker 8: Hey, I'm ready, I'm in. I'm like a racehorse in
• 24:55
  Speaker 8: the stall. Man, I'm ready, Emon, Warris ready, Seahawks are ready.
• 24:59
  Speaker 8: Come on, man, let's go open up those gates. We
• 25:02
  Speaker 8: got to run.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, as as ready as we are, Hugh,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, now, I'm like, can we play this on
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Monday just to get Emon warr an extra day's rest?
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Is there any chance they can move it to Monday
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: at this point?
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: You if that opportunity presents, why don't you take it?
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 25:21
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because because they'll ask you first, and
• 25:24
  Speaker 9: then just not just not yep, we'll push it back yep.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Uh. When that when that news hit, when Greg kind
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: of posted, as you know, sixty percent yesterday, and I
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: know that it's climbed since that time. I mean, what
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: did that do to you as an analyst thinking about
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: possibly playing the Super Bowl without number three?
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: Well, I don't like it. I think that he's such
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: a unique talent.
• 25:47
  Speaker 9: We've discussed all of that, and and really, you know,
• 25:50
  Speaker 9: for me, I sense that a lot of the discussion is, uh,
• 25:55
  Speaker 9: you know, is he gonna be ready? Is he gonna play?
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: And and it's almost with a focus of how healthy
• 26:02
  Speaker 9: will he be on the first play of the game.
• 26:05
  Speaker 9: That that's of course of great interest to all of us.
• 26:08
  Speaker 9: But I think of equal interest is how healthy will
• 26:11
  Speaker 9: he be on the last play of the game, Because
• 26:14
  Speaker 9: you know, it's not just enough to.
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: To say, Okay, I'm ready you take an injection.
• 26:19
  Speaker 9: Uh, and and you know it's you know, it's obviously
• 26:22
  Speaker 9: less than one hundred percent, but it's as you know,
• 26:24
  Speaker 9: you've got basically what you have is is I'm not
• 26:27
  Speaker 9: a doctor, but the way sprained ankles have always been described,
• 26:32
  Speaker 9: right as you've stretched the ligaments, I mean there's tissue damage,
• 26:35
  Speaker 9: soft tissue damage, and and so it's not going to
• 26:39
  Speaker 9: be as strong and it's going to be tender and
• 26:42
  Speaker 9: and you know the idea, well you got through it. Well,
• 26:44
  Speaker 9: there's certain things. You know, if your ligament isn't strong,
• 26:48
  Speaker 9: you know, you're there's a reason why why God put
• 26:52
  Speaker 9: a limp in our gate when we have a sprained ankle,
• 26:55
  Speaker 9: and uh, you know I I just I think to
• 26:57
  Speaker 9: expect him to be able to do all the things.
• 27:00
  Speaker 9: From a movement standpoint, I mean, you know, if you're
• 27:02
  Speaker 9: just running straight ahead, you know the forces have a
• 27:05
  Speaker 9: certain level.
• 27:06
  Speaker 8: We'll call X.
• 27:08
  Speaker 9: But as soon as you have to, you know, stop
• 27:10
  Speaker 9: and try and mirror somebody in coverage. You know, you
• 27:14
  Speaker 9: drop your weight down and then you push off. Well,
• 27:16
  Speaker 9: you're you're exerting a pressure on on that ankle. I'm
• 27:21
  Speaker 9: not gonna put a number to it. But it's certainly
• 27:22
  Speaker 9: a lot more next So uh yeah, you know how
• 27:25
  Speaker 9: the game unfolds is gonna be equally of interest to us.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's definitely something to it. I mean,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't think of it as something you could just
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: sweep under the rug. Me For some reason, I feel like,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: you know, shoot that thing with something right, some sort
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: of masking agent of some sort of tape it up.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Wind deck something.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I think when something more than wind decks. I don't
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: know if that's gonna do it. I don't know if
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: you want that in your ankle might be squeaky clean,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: might streak a little bit. Uh you know, I don't
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: know if you want to do that, But I just
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: feel like that. And then you combine the adrenaline and
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: and the fact that he's young. You know, I just
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: think going to go out there and do it. But
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm with you. It does make sense that there
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: could be something that he doesn't do at one hundred
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: percent or near it. So, yeah, he doesn't play. I
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: mean we've had he missed some time earlier this season.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: If he doesn't play, how much does it change what
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: they are capable of doing? Like what Mike McDonald wants
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: to do when he's calling the game.
• 28:23
  Speaker 9: Well, I think it changes a lot because you know,
• 28:26
  Speaker 9: whoever they put in, uh, you know, we've we've seen,
• 28:30
  Speaker 9: you know, go back to the NFC Championship game. He
• 28:34
  Speaker 9: was on back to back plays. He covered Puka Nakua
• 28:41
  Speaker 9: out on the flat and got a pass breakup. He
• 28:43
  Speaker 9: then covered a running back that the Rams had tried
• 28:47
  Speaker 9: to push the formation away from him. For Matthew Stafford,
• 28:51
  Speaker 9: it was the trips left and Seattle's you know, pushing
• 28:54
  Speaker 9: a zone to that trip side, and then they're playing
• 28:58
  Speaker 9: a solo on the backside where Emon Worry had a
• 29:01
  Speaker 9: lot of space against a halfback on an option route,
• 29:05
  Speaker 9: a choice route, and his part to be fundamentally sound,
• 29:09
  Speaker 9: he's got to defend the inside first. He can't let
• 29:13
  Speaker 9: the halfback cross his face. Well, you see a lot
• 29:15
  Speaker 9: of running excuse me, linebackers against running backs in that situation.
• 29:19
  Speaker 9: They deny the inside, which is their first priority. But
• 29:24
  Speaker 9: in so doing, you know, they kind of anchor themselves
• 29:27
  Speaker 9: and they just have they don't have any acceleration to
• 29:30
  Speaker 9: cover the flat. Well, Em and Worry, you know, fundamentally
• 29:34
  Speaker 9: denied the inside what would be called the Texas portion
• 29:38
  Speaker 9: of an option route, which is the inbreaking part.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 29:41
  Speaker 9: And then but then he has the burst in the
• 29:43
  Speaker 9: length to to to you know, put the turbo button
• 29:46
  Speaker 9: and cover the outbreaking route and get another pass break up.
• 29:50
  Speaker 8: And next thing, the Rams have got their punter on
• 29:52
  Speaker 8: the field. So you know you had that. He covered
• 29:54
  Speaker 8: DeVante Adams down the field.
• 29:56
  Speaker 9: So so if you're a quarterback, you look, you know,
• 30:00
  Speaker 9: he's basically we just I've been saying all year he's
• 30:02
  Speaker 9: a Nicol Sam and he's a Sam linebacker. But you
• 30:07
  Speaker 9: don't get up a read on the coverage because you
• 30:10
  Speaker 9: know that emon worry if he's out there, it could
• 30:14
  Speaker 9: be manners own because they don't fear putting him in
• 30:18
  Speaker 9: uh in man coverage against anybody. They put him in
• 30:20
  Speaker 9: man coverage against Justin Jefferson for crying out out right.
• 30:24
  Speaker 9: So I that that versatility is irreplaceable. You can put
• 30:30
  Speaker 9: a strong guy down there, Uh you can. You know
• 30:33
  Speaker 9: Tyrese Knight as a linebacker that made you know, one
• 30:36
  Speaker 9: of the great plays on that second down in in
• 30:40
  Speaker 9: the red zone last week when when the Rams got
• 30:44
  Speaker 9: down there in the fourth quarter, he made that great
• 30:46
  Speaker 9: tackle for for no gain. So there's some guys they
• 30:50
  Speaker 9: have that can fill the positions, they just don't have
• 30:53
  Speaker 9: one guy that can do at all.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Hugh Melanis Wether's x's and o's getting you ready for
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Super Bowl sixty coming up on Sunday.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the approach on the offensive side of
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: the ball. I think we're all in the let it
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: rip Sam category on this show with our experts, but
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you're necessarily coming out firing you. I mean,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I expect this to be a slobber knocker. I expect
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: this to be two defensive teams just knocking the snot
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: out of one another for four quarters. So I'm wondering
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: how you would approach that. Do you come out throwing
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: the football or do you come out a little more conservative.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Let's establish walker, let's bide our time for big plays,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: and then in the end we think that we can
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: outlast this football team. What's your approach to how you
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: handle the game plan offensively aggressive or conservative?
• 31:52
  Speaker 9: Well, I think Clint Kubiak is going to try and
• 31:55
  Speaker 9: establish the run early. I think it's more likely to
• 31:58
  Speaker 9: be to the outside because I think you want to
• 32:02
  Speaker 9: run away from Christian Barmore and Milton Williams, those defensive
• 32:06
  Speaker 9: tackles that are quick like uh three technique guys, but
• 32:11
  Speaker 9: but have the size of nose tackles type of thing.
• 32:14
  Speaker 9: You know, they're they're a load inside. So I I,
• 32:17
  Speaker 9: you know, particularly just with their strength and and so
• 32:22
  Speaker 9: I think it's more we're more likely to see, hey,
• 32:25
  Speaker 9: let's try and get the outside zone the stretch going,
• 32:27
  Speaker 9: you know, and and test those defensive ends chasing and
• 32:30
  Speaker 9: landry and see if they can set an edge as
• 32:34
  Speaker 9: far as the the the game plan in the passing game.
• 32:39
  Speaker 9: Looking at the Patriots, they they're feisty and they're they're
• 32:44
  Speaker 9: trigger happy. What does that mean? They're you know, you
• 32:47
  Speaker 9: in the NFL sometimes you throw on a tape and
• 32:48
  Speaker 9: you see a secondary that that they you know, they
• 32:51
  Speaker 9: want to maintain a cushion. They're they're clearly coached. They
• 32:55
  Speaker 9: don't give up the big play. I mean, nobody wants
• 32:58
  Speaker 9: to give up the big play. That's the word. Thing
• 33:00
  Speaker 9: you can do in pass coverage. But you know, defense taketh,
• 33:03
  Speaker 9: defense giveth. And it's as if Mike vrabel is saying
• 33:07
  Speaker 9: to his secondary, listen.
• 33:11
  Speaker 8: I know we may give up a big play.
• 33:13
  Speaker 9: I don't want to, but it's worth it to me to,
• 33:15
  Speaker 9: you know, to try and really be disruptive on the
• 33:18
  Speaker 9: short and intermediate stuff. Let's go, let's go after him.
• 33:21
  Speaker 9: If we have the pass rush to be able to
• 33:23
  Speaker 9: make a quarterback, you know, make fast decisions, you know,
• 33:27
  Speaker 9: you know, go try and get a pass breakup, you know,
• 33:30
  Speaker 9: And so they're susceptible to a double move.
• 33:32
  Speaker 8: I think that that that could be a big part
• 33:34
  Speaker 8: of the game plan.
• 33:35
  Speaker 9: And then you know, final thought on on what may transpire.
• 33:40
  Speaker 9: When I described how Seattle on third and medium may
• 33:44
  Speaker 9: give the ball to Kenneth Walker, I understand what's brought
• 33:48
  Speaker 9: him there. Jsn right, he's the offensive player of the here.
• 33:51
  Speaker 9: I get that that's what you want to do is
• 33:54
  Speaker 9: throw on third and medium. But that's under the pretense
• 33:57
  Speaker 9: that your guards are are are having a normal challenge
• 34:03
  Speaker 9: and and and if they have an abnormal challenge that's difficult.
• 34:07
  Speaker 9: Then you've got to hit the Patriots where they're vulnerable.
• 34:10
  Speaker 9: Let me explain what I mean. I think most of
• 34:13
  Speaker 9: us understand that it's harder to play tackle than it
• 34:17
  Speaker 9: is to play guard in pass coverage. Why, because tackle
• 34:21
  Speaker 9: you have more space, you have to widen out against
• 34:24
  Speaker 9: a defensive end, you just have more area that you
• 34:27
  Speaker 9: know you're when you play guard, it's like you have
• 34:29
  Speaker 9: bumper bumper rails on either side, you know, just in
• 34:32
  Speaker 9: tighter space. So so space is the friend of the
• 34:36
  Speaker 9: of the defense, you know, in in that situation. So
• 34:41
  Speaker 9: if if what I'm seeing on tape from the Patriots
• 34:45
  Speaker 9: is that they take their defensive tackles, they're putting.
• 34:48
  Speaker 8: Them in in in a four four technique that's head
• 34:52
  Speaker 8: up over tackles.
• 34:53
  Speaker 9: Four eye technique is the inside I've seen the defensive
• 34:56
  Speaker 9: tackles on a five technique.
• 34:58
  Speaker 8: That's that's that's that's.
• 35:00
  Speaker 9: Where the defensive tackle is the outside shade of the tackle,
• 35:03
  Speaker 9: and then there's an en way out beyond that.
• 35:05
  Speaker 8: They got the A gaps open at.
• 35:07
  Speaker 9: Least one B gap, sometimes two B gaps like you're
• 35:11
  Speaker 9: and you're asking the guards in pass protection to fan out,
• 35:16
  Speaker 9: widen out, and they're taking the steps of an offensive
• 35:19
  Speaker 9: tackle to do that. So it's not that it's about
• 35:24
  Speaker 9: what you know, dance with the girl that brung you.
• 35:27
  Speaker 9: It's the Patriots are throwing something at you you've never
• 35:30
  Speaker 9: seen that is not sound in terms of just a
• 35:34
  Speaker 9: quick trap or you can block it a lot of
• 35:36
  Speaker 9: different ways. You can zone block it, but you can
• 35:39
  Speaker 9: trap it. You can do these things on a on
• 35:42
  Speaker 9: an inside run. On third medium. You can't, in my opinion,
• 35:45
  Speaker 9: you can't let them line up like that and make
• 35:48
  Speaker 9: your guards have to play in space as if they're tackles.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I hear what you're saying there. That makes a
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: lot of sense. It's gonna be interesting.
• 35:56
  Speaker 9: It's all over the take, guys, it's all you know.
• 35:58
  Speaker 9: We'll just watch the AFC Championship like down after down.
• 36:01
  Speaker 9: I'm watching the end zone copy and I'm like, whoa,
• 36:04
  Speaker 9: what is with that front like like that that you know?
• 36:08
  Speaker 9: Is it is this third and fourteen? And I look, no,
• 36:10
  Speaker 9: it's third and four you know they're doing stuff. Yeah,
• 36:15
  Speaker 9: they're daring them to do it, So I look for that.
• 36:18
  Speaker 9: There could be some of that and then and then
• 36:21
  Speaker 9: what's the what's what's the effect?
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: What?
• 36:23
  Speaker 9: What that then does is say that uh, you know
• 36:28
  Speaker 9: they have then the pages have to play a front
• 36:31
  Speaker 9: where they get the guards Zabel and Bradford into a
• 36:35
  Speaker 9: little bit more confined space like like is typical of
• 36:39
  Speaker 9: what guards have to do in pass protection.
• 36:41
  Speaker 8: You have to force them back into being sound.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Is there a chance I don't necessarily think there is,
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: but is there a chance that vrabel is going to
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: be able to even more than just contain JSN? I mean,
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: I would think you would have to be like, you
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: can't let that guy beat us. But I mean, could
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: he just sell out and just be like, we're having
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: two guys on him at all times? And if then
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Cooper cup is running wild or a J. Barner or
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: whoever it is, is there a way in which they
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: could shut him down or is he playing wide receiver
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: at an unguardable pace at this point?
• 37:16
  Speaker 9: Okay, so let's go back to the greatest show on turf.
• 37:20
  Speaker 9: And you know, obviously that's Belichick and that Super Bowl
• 37:25
  Speaker 9: in two thousand and one, Brady's first Super Bowl, Belichick's
• 37:28
  Speaker 9: first Super Bowl. They're going against the greatest show on turf,
• 37:31
  Speaker 9: and they were taking their defensive ends and they were
• 37:34
  Speaker 9: widening them so much that they were jamming receivers. They
• 37:39
  Speaker 9: were jamming Marshall Falk anytime he tried to leave. They
• 37:42
  Speaker 9: in essence said, it's more important for our defensive ends
• 37:46
  Speaker 9: to disrupt receivers who are in the area than it
• 37:50
  Speaker 9: is for them to rush and you've got in Clint Kobiak,
• 37:55
  Speaker 9: a guy that is similar to Kyle Shanahan, likes to
• 37:58
  Speaker 9: have a lot of squeezed for me, and that allows
• 38:02
  Speaker 9: you to have inserts on the running game. What does
• 38:05
  Speaker 9: squeeze formation means? The receivers are close to the ball,
• 38:08
  Speaker 9: whether it's trips which we call that bunch, or whether
• 38:11
  Speaker 9: it's stack formations or what have you that allows the
• 38:16
  Speaker 9: receiver to be part of the run blocking fits. It
• 38:21
  Speaker 9: allows receivers if they're not on an outbreaking route, there's
• 38:25
  Speaker 9: a lot of grasp because you've tightened your split close
• 38:27
  Speaker 9: to the ball. If you want to run a crossing route,
• 38:30
  Speaker 9: you can get over to the opposite side from where
• 38:33
  Speaker 9: you align. You line up in the left slot real
• 38:35
  Speaker 9: close to the ball, and you want to run an
• 38:38
  Speaker 9: intermediate crossing route, you can get way over to the
• 38:41
  Speaker 9: near the numbers faster because you've aligned closer to the ball.
• 38:45
  Speaker 9: All of these tenants that are part of the Kyle
• 38:49
  Speaker 9: Shanahan Clinton Kobiak philosophy worldview about offensive football involve a
• 38:56
  Speaker 9: lot of type formations. So then what's the what's the
• 39:01
  Speaker 9: length to which the Patriots will take their defensive ends
• 39:05
  Speaker 9: and try and jam JSN. So if he's close to
• 39:08
  Speaker 9: the ball, they they may really widen guys out to
• 39:12
  Speaker 9: try and disrupt him. We've seen that from from Belichick
• 39:15
  Speaker 9: through the years, as I've described, not just that game,
• 39:18
  Speaker 9: but in games since then, and and and so, the
• 39:22
  Speaker 9: the formations house Seattle lines particularly, you ask about JSN,
• 39:26
  Speaker 9: what are they going to do? Uh, don't be surprised
• 39:29
  Speaker 9: if you see defensive ends trying to get a shot
• 39:32
  Speaker 9: at uh at Injigba at the onset of the play,
• 39:36
  Speaker 9: if Injigba is lining aligned. Uh with what what some
• 39:40
  Speaker 9: people call, well all all coaches call, for whatever reason,
• 39:43
  Speaker 9: the term that the X receiver is called a nasty split.
• 39:47
  Speaker 9: And you play quarterback in the NFL, and you're tight,
• 39:49
  Speaker 9: you're you're split in as close to the ball, you
• 39:52
  Speaker 9: hear the defense going nasty, nasty, nasty. I don't know
• 39:54
  Speaker 9: where it originated, but but it's it's an alert that
• 39:57
  Speaker 9: it could be a crack block or a shallow cross.
• 40:00
  Speaker 9: So you hear nasty. You know, Mike Holmgan would call
• 40:03
  Speaker 9: it Z close, the opposite from the exit of the Z.
• 40:07
  Speaker 9: You know, the Z close where the Z is really
• 40:09
  Speaker 9: close to the ball. And of course the slot receivers
• 40:12
  Speaker 9: can be real close to the ball right in the alley,
• 40:15
  Speaker 9: you know, just a few paces off of the tackle.
• 40:19
  Speaker 9: That's a component of the game that I think that
• 40:23
  Speaker 9: I certainly will be watching because I've seen the Belichick
• 40:27
  Speaker 9: Vrabel Tree go to great lengths to try and disrupt
• 40:30
  Speaker 9: the pass routes.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Hugh Mellen our final x's and o's before the Super Bowl,
• 40:34
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• 40:38
  Speaker 1: all right, I'm going to ask you this as our
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: last question here today, our last chance to chat with
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Hugh Millan, before the Super Bowl, even though Clint Kubiak,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald, Sam Darnold ken Walker had nothing to do
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: with February first, twenty fifteen. If this game comes down
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: to we're at the one yard line and we need
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: a touchdown to win, will they be affected by what
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: happened that day?
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Human?
• 41:05
  Speaker 9: You know, it's possible. I you know, if it came
• 41:08
  Speaker 9: down to circumstances. You know, no, no, two snowflakes are
• 41:12
  Speaker 9: exactly the same, and no plays are exactly the same.
• 41:15
  Speaker 9: But if it gets down to a similar situation, it's
• 41:19
  Speaker 9: not inconceivable to me that either Kubiak or McDonald's say,
• 41:23
  Speaker 9: you know, hey, we got to run this ball. But
• 41:25
  Speaker 9: you know, I know it's going to be discussed on Sunday. Yeah,
• 41:28
  Speaker 9: but but just a thought. You know, in standard football,
• 41:32
  Speaker 9: with the with the personnel you've got uh you know,
• 41:36
  Speaker 9: if you've got two wide receivers, you have four dbs.
• 41:38
  Speaker 9: If you replacing an ad a third receiver, then you
• 41:41
  Speaker 9: go five dbs. So you want to have two more dbs,
• 41:45
  Speaker 9: then the opponents have uh wide receivers. On that play,
• 41:50
  Speaker 9: the where they didn't give the ball to Marshawn Lynch,
• 41:54
  Speaker 9: the Patriots went so heavy they called it goal line
• 41:58
  Speaker 9: three corners. They only had three dbs on there and
• 42:02
  Speaker 9: Seattle had three wide receivers. It was immensely balanced. The
• 42:07
  Speaker 9: all of the the the the axioms of football say
• 42:13
  Speaker 9: you need to throw the ball and and and if
• 42:16
  Speaker 9: you like the if you look at.
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: The mass that they were looking at to try and
• 42:23
  Speaker 8: run the ball. There was a lot of.
• 42:28
  Speaker 9: Statistics that year pointed to Marshall Lynch, as great as
• 42:31
  Speaker 9: he was, that he wasn't a great third and fourth
• 42:35
  Speaker 9: and one running back, not because he wasn't great, because
• 42:38
  Speaker 9: the defense focuses on it in that game they had
• 42:40
  Speaker 9: already had a third and one, they got zero and
• 42:43
  Speaker 9: they had to punt. So really there was a lot
• 42:46
  Speaker 9: of sense that that the Seahawks were trying to limit
• 42:51
  Speaker 9: the amount of time that Tom Brady would have to
• 42:53
  Speaker 9: go down and kick a field goal. He was the
• 42:55
  Speaker 9: best that year and in many years. In the two
• 42:57
  Speaker 9: minute offense, that was big on their mind. They only
• 43:01
  Speaker 9: had one time out. That interception was thrown on second down.
• 43:04
  Speaker 9: For everybody who says give it to Marshawn Lynch, there
• 43:08
  Speaker 9: was there was soundness to the uh. They they had
• 43:13
  Speaker 9: a run play and then they had a check and
• 43:15
  Speaker 9: that check, they had what's called Z spot to his
• 43:17
  Speaker 9: let to Russell Wilson's left for his zone, and they
• 43:20
  Speaker 9: had the now screen to the right on mand a
• 43:23
  Speaker 9: man so was man and a man and and there
• 43:25
  Speaker 9: was soundness. But here's the part for all the crap
• 43:29
  Speaker 9: that that the Sea Hot coaches get, you know, Carol
• 43:32
  Speaker 9: gets for that, there's a couple of guys that are
• 43:35
  Speaker 9: getting off Scott Free, Russell Wilson, you know who says
• 43:39
  Speaker 9: I want to be the greatest of all time. Dude,
• 43:41
  Speaker 9: it's second down. If it's not a bright green light,
• 43:46
  Speaker 9: just break a camera lens in the back of the
• 43:49
  Speaker 9: end zone with the football, throw it out of bounds,
• 43:51
  Speaker 9: break a cheerleader's nose, throw it wherever other than to
• 43:54
  Speaker 9: a patriot, right and uh and and so if you so,
• 43:59
  Speaker 9: then if you do that, if you call the pass play,
• 44:03
  Speaker 9: because if you if you run the ball, then you're
• 44:06
  Speaker 9: gonna have to call a timeout, in which case you
• 44:08
  Speaker 9: that you know that on the third down that you
• 44:11
  Speaker 9: have to throw it. So if you throw it on
• 44:14
  Speaker 9: second down, he's like, hey, maybe something pops open. If
• 44:17
  Speaker 9: it's bright green, throw it for Otherwise, ditch it in
• 44:20
  Speaker 9: the back and guess what then you're gonna have. You're
• 44:23
  Speaker 9: gonna have two plays. You're gonna have what all the
• 44:26
  Speaker 9: fans want is, uh is for Marshall Lynch to have
• 44:30
  Speaker 9: one crack from the one yard line.
• 44:31
  Speaker 8: Guess what you're gonna get two.
• 44:33
  Speaker 9: You're gonna get third down, give it to Marshon Lynch,
• 44:36
  Speaker 9: and then you're gonna have ther timeout still available. You're
• 44:39
  Speaker 9: gonna call timeout with four seconds to go, and you're
• 44:42
  Speaker 9: gonna have one play on fourth and one win this.
• 44:44
  Speaker 9: You would have had two of those. If you've got
• 44:47
  Speaker 9: to expect professionals to be professionals. And the other guy
• 44:50
  Speaker 9: who's getting off scott free is Jermaine Curse. He had
• 44:53
  Speaker 9: brown and Browner on him. His only job was to
• 44:57
  Speaker 9: rip inside and to get in the path of a
• 45:00
  Speaker 9: Malcolm Butler. Malcolm Butler to get that interception had to
• 45:04
  Speaker 9: draw a line from point A to point B. If
• 45:06
  Speaker 9: he had to even go around a traffic cone, around
• 45:09
  Speaker 9: a coffee cup, just deviate from his path one inch,
• 45:14
  Speaker 9: he would not have made that play. And the guy
• 45:16
  Speaker 9: who's supposed to get that rub on him is Jermaine Curse,
• 45:20
  Speaker 9: and he did not rip inside that he allowed Brandon
• 45:23
  Speaker 9: Browner to have a path. I can get six receivers
• 45:27
  Speaker 9: from Skyline High School on their JV that can take
• 45:30
  Speaker 9: an inside release and get in the path of Malcolm Butler.
• 45:34
  Speaker 9: There was horrible execution by professional standards that were happening
• 45:40
  Speaker 9: in that play. You give Russell Wilson an F and
• 45:44
  Speaker 9: you give Jermaine Curse an F minus because you can
• 45:47
  Speaker 9: get high school receivers to do the job he didn't do.
• 45:51
  Speaker 9: And so there's a in my opinion, there's a lot
• 45:54
  Speaker 9: more sound thinking behind what they did in terms of
• 45:59
  Speaker 9: how they wanted to preserve the You know that one
• 46:01
  Speaker 9: time out Tom Brady thing I discussed I don't know, uh,
• 46:07
  Speaker 9: you know, we had a decision analyst come on on
• 46:11
  Speaker 9: the thirty third team, who who his entire career is
• 46:16
  Speaker 9: is is about decision trees and choices businesses make. And
• 46:20
  Speaker 9: he comes on and he just goes, well, we all
• 46:22
  Speaker 9: know that that that was the right decision to throw
• 46:25
  Speaker 9: the ball. And he says, well, this is how businesses
• 46:28
  Speaker 9: have to do decisions like like there there is a
• 46:31
  Speaker 9: lot of sound reason. Anyways, I've blown past the clock.
• 46:34
  Speaker 9: But we're gonna hear a lot about that page, you know, yeah,
• 46:38
  Speaker 9: you know, how about this.
• 46:40
  Speaker 8: Russell Wilson And you know what.
• 46:43
  Speaker 9: Russell Wilson was miked up and he's standing there forty
• 46:46
  Speaker 9: five seconds after the play and he tells to Darryl
• 46:49
  Speaker 9: Bevill he goes, he goes, which way did he go?
• 46:52
  Speaker 8: On the play?
• 46:53
  Speaker 9: Meaning he didn't know if Malcolm Butler went over the
• 46:56
  Speaker 9: top of the screen or underneath.
• 46:57
  Speaker 8: You know what that means.
• 46:58
  Speaker 9: He didn't see it. He didn't see it his own words,
• 47:03
  Speaker 9: tied a noose around his own neck because he he
• 47:05
  Speaker 9: asked Aaron Welball which wayed did he go around?
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: The play?
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 47:09
  Speaker 9: It was murky likely. He had no business trying to
• 47:13
  Speaker 9: throw that touchdown. It's boshould have gone out of the
• 47:15
  Speaker 9: back of the end zone. And uh, you know, Jermaine
• 47:18
  Speaker 9: Curse just gets a clean rub boom it's a touchdown
• 47:21
  Speaker 9: and and uh you know you know so at an event.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: All right, man, Well, thank you very much all season,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: all week. Uh, greatly appreciate. It wouldn't be football Friday
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: without hearing x's and o's from Hugh Milling. And we
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: will break it down on Monday, like no.
• 47:39
  Speaker 8: Breaking the wind down on Monday.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, look at that. Yeah, go Hawks, all right,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: go Hawks, go key all right, enjoy guys. Thanks man,
• 47:48
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• 47:53
  Speaker 1: here on Chuck and Buck in the morning. Sorry, coming
• 47:55
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  Speaker 1: point three kh A r F M flag football. All right,
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  Speaker 1: sorry about that. Well I don't want to do it, Yeah,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: I don't want to do it.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: You know that you're out of shape when you don't
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: like picture and yourself shirtless, So thanks for that.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I look over here, we got Kay Adams.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: She does her show over here. Something tells me that
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: she didn't spend last night eating pepperoni pizza and drinking
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Scotch all night long or bourbon.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess not.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: I guess that's not what she did with her evening
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: last night.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: No, No, she looks like she's got a lot more
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: beauty rest than you and I have a lot more.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, something tells me she just had a wafer
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: last night for dinner.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a rice cake. Yeah sounds fun, sounds good. I'm
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: glad I had pizza. I had a she had a sprig.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Of alfalfa and a perrier. Yeah, ran this morning. Meanwhile,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: you and I like, just order two largest too large,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: and I think it would be good. Then we're prepared.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Did four more people come?
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it'd be great. We get on there.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know, A bunch of meat, just as much
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: meat as we can buy a lot. It sounds good.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think Hey Adams would have come to
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: our party last night had we invited her. But no,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: does feel like a missed opportunity?
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: Asking, Yeah, well it's as opportunity for her too. I mean,
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: live a little bit right, pizza right exactly?
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: A woman can't live on sprigs alone. No, it's Jugabuck
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure the first choice would be to see the
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl in person those listening, But it sounds like,
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: according to this story here this morning, that the idea
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  Speaker 1: of going to a Super Bowl party or going to
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: some sort of event is going by the wayside. It
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  Speaker 1: sounds like people are getting really specific about exactly what
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: they want to eat and drink and be with. They
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: want the privacy, they want their seahawk moment. It's just
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: too personal now to share with anybody else. So apparently
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  Speaker 1: there's a surge of people staying home to watch the
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl these days.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, that's interesting. I mean, I do think a lot
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: of folks, especially if you've done it once before, If
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: if you've been through watching your team fight for a
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: championship and that not go your way, and you're amongst
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: people that are not like minded, I think it that
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: pain sticks with you. Yeah, I'll just tell you. There
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: was one. It was I think forty three thousand to
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: eight is what the final score ended up being. I'm
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: pretty sure it was my favorite team, the Denver Broncos,
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  Speaker 2: and they're playing against Seattle Seahawks. So that was not
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  Speaker 2: long ago, really, but it felt like yesterday. The pain
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: is still real, and so I was amongst all Seahawks
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: fans and it was probably something I'll never do again.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: I'll probably never watch a Super Bowl with all Seahawk
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: fans if it's against my Broncos, because it was painful.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's I think a lot of people just
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  Speaker 2: want to be able to have their emotions and not
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: have it interrupted. So if you're around friends, close friends
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  Speaker 2: that are all in the same rooting interest, then when
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: things are going great, then you're sharing in the glow
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: things are. If something goes poorly, you're all on the
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: same page. But to go out in public where there's
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: mixed things and you have that thought of like you
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: stop cheering when something bad goes for my team.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think today's fan is just so much
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: more rabbit. I mean, my dad's not sitting there on
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: the couch on Super Bowl Sunday and his you know,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Joe Montana jersey or whatever, you know, with my uncles
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: and hanging on the edge of the seat. I just
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: don't think our dad's operated that way. But today's fan
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: takes it so personally. Uh, and it's so important to
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: them compared to two generations ago, even one generation to go,
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  Speaker 1: I would imagine. Yeah, that kind of makes sense to me.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be in mixed company where there might be,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: for goodness sake, i might show up and somebody's new
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: boyfriend is a Patriots fan. For goodness sake, I'm not watching.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: We don't get at the Super Bowl every year as
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: a football fan. I'm not gonna be sitting there watching
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: it with somebody who's you know, a Tom Brady jersey
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: on af that I'm staying home I'm having Fredo's Nobody's
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: gonna judge me for it, and I am gonna scream
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: at the television because damn it, I'm a Seahawks fan, right, Yeah.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: And imagine if you had like a sickness where you
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: had to sit in the same chair, in the same
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: position and had to eat the same things, like if
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: you were superstitious. I don't know who would be like that.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Then you obviously don't want to go out and bring
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: in mixed variables that might mess up the entire thing
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  Speaker 2: for the whole city.
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  Speaker 1: Ashley, do you have a plan.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, We're having only Seahawks fans at our house.
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  Speaker 3: It's all the time.
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  Speaker 1: Only what if you found out? What if somebody just
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: at the last second invited like a cousin.
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: There's no inviting. No, you are either you got the invite.
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: You do not extend the invite to anyone else. There's
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: only a certain number of people that can be there.
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: You can't have it too loud that you can't hear
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: the TV. Anyone who has kids. Those kids will be
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: in Palmer's room. They can watch a movie if they
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: don't want to watch the game. There's no playing in
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: the living room.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, I like Ashley's rule. Wait to just lay down
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: the wall.
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all the playing will be done in the kid's
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: bedroom and other than that, it's football only outside of
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: the well.
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  Speaker 2: There and break in with a Patriots jersey on.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: I just think today's football it's such a personal experience
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: for them. I think Ashley as was way ahead of
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: the curb on this. These are the rules, yep. And
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: you're not going to come in and ruin my Seahawk
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: party with your Patriot Bowl. I'll I'll watch. It's fun
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: if my team's not in it. But this is different. Yeah,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: all right, we will continue our coverage from Radio Row
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  Speaker 1: next Sports Radio ninety three point three kh A r
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  Speaker 1: f M.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then when the song came over, the doors
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: burst open and we went out there and throttled them.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: Is that right?
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: What did super What did the ads go for back then?
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: For eleven year old you know our NL? Yeah? What
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: were they add rates back then to get on that show?
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: We all got one Caprice son, two orange slices. Okay,
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: it was worth it.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you dominated, Oh.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: It was absolute dominating. Yeah, And it was actually my
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: first can't trash song down like yeah, it was my
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: first attempt of trash talk as well. Yeah, there was
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: a guy on the other team. Duffer was his last name. Yeah,
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: he was doofy talking trash before the game, and then
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: we whooped him, and so I said, hey Dufe, Hey Dufe.
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  Speaker 1: Scoreboard, bud scoreboard.
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  Speaker 9: Him.
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  Speaker 2: It did.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: It's as if God got involved to give you a
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: starter kit trash talking opportunity. I'm going to give you,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: when you're ready, an arrogant, very easy, arrogant guy named
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Dufer Dufer.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: I mean it's just it's endless. I mean you can't miss.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: It was a can't miss. It was a can't miss,
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: and it started me on my trash talk journey with
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: a with a vote of confidence because I was like,
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: I just nailed that. What a journey. It's then, hey dufe, scoreboard.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: That's what I said to him. I was like, man,
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: I am good at this. At eleven, well.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Our radio row coverage is going to conclude today. We
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: got one more hour to go before we put the
• 56:09
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• 56:11
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• 56:17
  Speaker 1: We will have the call of the Super Bowl on Sunday,
• 56:20
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• 56:25
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• 56:29
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• 56:37
  Speaker 1: is the NFL Networks Gerald McCoy, former Buccaneers defensive tackle
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: and he joins us here at our set. Good to
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: have you, man, Thanks.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: For having me. Man.
• 56:48
  Speaker 10: I heard you mentioned in one of my colleagues, Kurt Warner.
• 56:51
  Speaker 10: Man oh, sitting next to him every Sunday. Yeah, Kurt,
• 56:57
  Speaker 10: when the show is over, Kurt, I mean, and he
• 57:00
  Speaker 10: runs a Tyreek Hill forty to the locker.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: Room and gets out of there so he can come
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: call these games.
• 57:05
  Speaker 10: So he loves needless to say, Kurt loves it so
• 57:09
  Speaker 10: and kurtis he's one of the he's one of the
• 57:12
  Speaker 10: greatest author.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: I love Kurt.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, watching it. But you can't just say nice things.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: Tell us something bad about Marry Uchie or about rich Eyes,
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: and give me some dirt.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: So mooch, we always we always say mooch. He's a
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: he gets very antsy. And you know, some.
• 57:31
  Speaker 10: People like if you say, take five steps to get
• 57:36
  Speaker 10: to your destination, and he gets five steps and he's
• 57:39
  Speaker 10: not there, and he might have to take a six,
• 57:42
  Speaker 10: his knees might.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: Crumble because it's like instead of instead of just saying, oh,
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: I just need to take an extra step, Mooch is like,
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: but you said five and I'm not there yet. That's
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: how Mooch operates. And then Kurt.
• 57:58
  Speaker 10: Kurt is the guy who if you had a cookbook, yeah, yeah,
• 58:06
  Speaker 10: now you don't know how to cook, but you give
• 58:08
  Speaker 10: him a cookbook with all the ingredients. Kurt is gonna
• 58:12
  Speaker 10: look at the ingredients and say, well, why these ingredients here?
• 58:15
  Speaker 10: It's like, bro, you don't even know how a cook
• 58:17
  Speaker 10: I get that, but why these here?
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: And why is this not in there? It's like, well,
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: you don't know why.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: It tastes the way it tastes the.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: Way you like it.
• 58:27
  Speaker 10: It tastes like that because of these ingredients. I understand that,
• 58:31
  Speaker 10: but why didn't you add this?
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: That's Kurt? Wow, that's Kurt.
• 58:35
  Speaker 10: And then Rich's just he's professor X oh I call
• 58:39
  Speaker 10: him Richar's professor X. He's just he's freaking incredible. His
• 58:42
  Speaker 10: mind the way rich mind works. Man it's freaking incredible.
• 58:46
  Speaker 10: So it's a blessing to be up there with those guys.
• 58:49
  Speaker 10: I love him so much. They had a team that
• 58:54
  Speaker 10: was like the Avengers or the Justice League with those
• 58:58
  Speaker 10: three and then Michael word so losing Earth and them
• 59:03
  Speaker 10: inviting me in and welcoming me with open arms. I'm
• 59:07
  Speaker 10: overly indebted to them so much. So did sometimes I
• 59:10
  Speaker 10: sit up there and get emotional because they didn't have
• 59:14
  Speaker 10: to do that, and they didn't have to be as
• 59:17
  Speaker 10: welcoming as they were for me. Because I'm telling you
• 59:21
  Speaker 10: right now, Michael Irvin is their brother. So it's tough
• 59:25
  Speaker 10: to lose a family member when you've been doing it
• 59:27
  Speaker 10: the way you've been doing it.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: For so long. But I never felt it.
• 59:32
  Speaker 10: Not one time did I ever feel unwanted or unwelcome.
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: So I love those guys so much.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: Well, you add a lot, Yeah, you add a lot
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: to that show.
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: I just try and bring me.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jerald McCoy is that's right here on now, chucking
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: back all right, Well, bring you and your analysis to
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: our beloved Seahawks as they get ready to play Sunday
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: in this Super Bowl. My guess is you're a big
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Leonard Williams fan. You like Leonard Williams game. Uh, tell
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: me how you have analyzed this this front four for
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks all year long and what kind of impact
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: they could have on Sunday.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like Leonard.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 10: I like Murphy, I told, I said, and he's a
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 10: Texas guy. Yeah, but I watched him in Texas. You tolerate,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 10: I said, I hate to get his guy some credit, man,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 10: dang it, but I gotta do.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: It's really good sooner.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 10: But man, I'm a defender first. I'm a defensive tackle first,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 10: and I love great defensive tackle play. And Murphy's one
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 10: of those guys. Man, So I knew.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: So you start with Murphy more.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 10: Well, I mean, Leonard gets all the praise and he should.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 10: He deserves it. But Murph, Man, when Murph wasn't a
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 10: pro bowler, he was upset for a reason. It was
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 10: very valid because he played that well. And you know,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 10: he's just continues that play. And I don't bring up
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 10: a lot of names or people often because I don't
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 10: give a lot of praise out because it's very difficult
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 10: to be really good in this league. He has the
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 10: ability to be one of the greats over the next
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 10: ten years. He has that level of ability. But it's
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 10: all gonna be in punging on how much he learns
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 10: from Leonard, because Leonard did the same thing.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: He came up under Mo Wilkerson.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 10: With the Jets, and he learned and he got better
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 10: and got better, kept trusting in himself and looking what
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 10: he is now, and he just continued to play for
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 10: all these years. Man, But you gotta have that guy
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 10: that's dominant in the middle, man, the Marcus Lawrence. I
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 10: was with him at the Pro Bowl a couple of times,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 10: but then I had a chance to. I stopped in
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 10: Dallas with a cup of coffee, you know, before I
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 10: hurt my knee, and I had a chance to sitting
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 10: meeting with him and sitting in the locker room with
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 10: him and d law He's just he's such a phenomenal leader.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 10: He's I mean, he overflows with confidence, not arrogance.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: It's confidence because if.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 10: You've ever watched him work his offseason work when he's
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 10: on that grass, the work he puts in is why
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 10: he carries himself the way he carries himself. And I
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 10: just love that this front or this defense as a whole.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 10: What I love most about them is their ability to pressure.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 10: They can send five, they can rush with four, they
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 10: can show.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: Six and send four. They can show six and send six.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 10: And it's because of what they have in the back end.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 10: This even worry kid Man. Well tell you something, that
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 10: dude is a different animal. When you can go from
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 10: covering Pooka one on one to covering Davante one on one,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 10: to cover somebody else, to blitzing to tackling in the
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 10: run game to it's just it's nothing he can't do.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 10: And he's played far beyond his years and that allows
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 10: you to do what I believe will be the detriment
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 10: to New England.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: When we watched New England.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 10: Versus the Broncos, we didn't see Drake May beat them
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 10: with his arm. He picked up six or seven first downs.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 10: I think it was with his legs. And it's because
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 10: of the rush lane integrity and all of that means
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 10: is is a lot of people think past rush is
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 10: just pass rus. It's not how it works. You have
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 10: to know how to rush, you have to know what
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 10: lanes you have cover each other up. Rush four as
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 10: one is what I was taught. Well, he kept finding
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 10: the opening in the rush lane. How you take that
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 10: away as you just rush five. You can't double team
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 10: unless you do a max pro so you Seattle has
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 10: the ability to do that. Y'all have five rushers that
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 10: can rush. If I'm putting Leonard Williams over the center,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 10: that's what I'm doing, putting them over the center, because
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 10: the center, it's rare that the cin there is the
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 10: best offensive alignment.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: You know, if we got in a fight right.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 10: Now, right and whoever can't fight, are we gonna put
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 10: them on the outside and we're gonna put them in
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 10: the middle and surround them. Right, That's how I look
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 10: at when I think about centers. So if I'm taking
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 10: my best defense attack on putting them over the center,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 10: because can that quarterback do anything without the ball? No,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 10: So not only does he have to worry about getting
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 10: him the ball, I gotta worry about this all probe
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 10: in front of me, like, oh my godsh And then
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 10: he can't help because he gotta govern him.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: He can't help because he gotta govern him.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 10: The Marcus Lawrence is out there, or I put de
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 10: Marcus Lawrence over will Campbell and then I say, okay,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 10: you go over there now, Drake May He has to
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 10: really beat you with his arm because there's no rush lane,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 10: there's no escape. And the reason you can do that
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 10: is because I'm not afraid of nobody that he's throwing
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 10: the ball to. I love Dixie, but Dixie's not gonna
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 10: beat me all game. As good as he is, he's
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 10: not gonna beat me all games. So I'm gonna play man.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 10: Or I can zone it up in the back again
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 10: and now show me y'all can beat me, because these
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 10: guys up front ain't blocking our guys. Show me, y'all
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 10: can beat me. So if I'm Seattle, that's what I'm doing.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 10: That's the luxury of having the defense, y'all have.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: How much credit do you give the Patriots defense? A
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: lot of people people are discounting, you know, the numbers
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: they put up because of the weather they played in
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: and the fact that maybe shroud, you know, look like
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: a deering head legs a little bit. Are you giving
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: them the credit that they absolutely? Okay?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, no, no.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 10: See without this defense, we wouldn't even be talking about
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 10: the New England Patriots. The defense is the reason we
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 10: even having this conversation, and the key to that defense
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 10: is the free agent signing that they had from the.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: Philadelphia Eagle Eagles Nelton Williams.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 10: They were giving up dang their three hundred and something
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 10: plus yards a game before Week eighteen when he came back. Since,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 10: they've been giving up two hundred and nine yards a game.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 10: Two hundred and nine. That's the impact of a Milton Williams.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 10: And he's healthy, he's been in these games before, he's
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 10: played well in these games before. And if you think
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 10: that this defense is going to be easy to move
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 10: the ball on, you got another thing coming. Because this
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 10: team takes on the identity of the head coach. The
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 10: head coach is Mike Rabo, who is a Belichick disciple. However,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 10: what did what was Belichick's m I'm gonna take away.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: What you do best.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: That's what he did. The best thing they do is
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: get the ball to Jsid good luck.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 10: He's the guy, right, he's the guy. So let's say
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 10: we do our best to take him away. Here's why
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 10: I have Seattle in this game.
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  Speaker 3: It's because everybody said, oh, Charvon's out, Charmonnay's out. Okay.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 10: When Montgomery and Detroit went out, Mr Gibbs was already there.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: Jamiir Gibbs was already the explosive running back. That's who
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker is.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 10: He had double the explosive to Sharbonnay. So people think, well,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 10: the reds On running back. Okay, but we got in
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 10: the reds On and sharbonn they came in, we knew
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 10: what was gonna happen. Now, if Kenneth Walker's back there,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 10: we don't know what the heck is gonna happen. They
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 10: could go outside, they can run inside. He can catch
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 10: the ball at the backfield, because that's just the guy
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 10: he is. Now, you actually just opened up the offense.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: But here's the X factor. Let's say they take away JSN.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 10: There's a guy on Seattle's team who has not only
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 10: played in this game, he's won this game and he's
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 10: been a Super Bowl MVP in this game. His name
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 10: is Cooper Cup. So take away JSN all you want.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 10: What better time for Cooper Cup to show the world
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 10: that I still got it than the Super Bowl?
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: They just y'all just got too much firepower. Man.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 10: As great as this defense is, they can take away
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 10: one piece and y'all got more.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: Take away this and y'all got more.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 10: And really it's all dependent on the quarterback who I
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 10: would rather play against Drake May than play against Sam
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 10: Darnold's because a quarterback who was standing in the pocket
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 10: and beat you with his mind is something you don't
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 10: want to deal with.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: I watch you every Sunday morning. I knew you were
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: going to bring analysis to the table. I didn't know
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: you were going to bring honey in port, didn't. Yeah,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: I know that was gonna happen with Jerald McCoy. I
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: know you got to get run and man this great stuff.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: I do want to ask you, just personally and not
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: to get the cart before the horse here. But I'm
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: watching all these Hall of Famers parade around. You're on
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: the ballot for the first time next year. Are you
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: ready for this unpredictable ride of you know whether or
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: not I'm good enough for Canton?
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: Are you ready for it? Here's here's so I did.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 10: I did Damn Patrick yesterday morning. He asked me the
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 10: same thing, and this is what I said.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: He copied me.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 10: All the kids, any kid who hears this, any young
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 10: athlete who's listening to this, we all dream to make
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 10: it into the Hall of Fame. Dan Patrick asked me
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 10: that question. You just asked you that question. My dad
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 10: always raised me, g be in the conversation. That's the goal.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 10: Be good enough to be in the conversation. That room
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 10: is so rare to get into. We would all love
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 10: to get in there, but everybody can't get in. But
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 10: when they put that ballot out last night and they
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 10: said notable players, and they put six seven guys up,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 10: and Gerald's face was on there, you're in the conversation,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 10: getting the conversation. Mission accomplished. Man, I'm from the south
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 10: side of Oklahoma City. Don't nobody come out of there.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 10: So for a kid that wasn't even getting recruited to
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 10: going to an OU camp, to them seeing me, me
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 10: going to the Nike camp, and now I'm on the
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 10: map to being a possible Hall of Famer. God, thank you.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 10: That's all I'll say. So I'm not about to ride
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 10: this roller coaster of emotions of whether I get in
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 10: or whether I don't. If I get a knock, great,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 10: if I don't. Guess what y'all see my name, I
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 10: was in the conversation. I did enough in my career
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 10: where to even be considered missing the compass.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: You're a great player, You're a great analytics, a great
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: guest here today, Jerald McCoy joining us right here on
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: Chuck and Buck in the mornings us as we talked
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: to the NFL networks. Uh. He I watch those guys
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: every Sunday morning. They do an outstanding job. That was
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: a breakdown right there from Jerald McCoy, Like he's got
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: Mike McDonald's game plan. He's like, hey, coach, you might
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: want to do this. I know you're a genius and all,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: but if I were you, I do this good stuff
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: from him?
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah here today. Yeah, that's pretty impressive. I mean, obviously
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: the dude does his homework and he's just not very
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: far removed from it, right. I mean, it's We've talked
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: to a lot of people this week, and they all
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: know their stuff. I mean I'm learning stuff from a
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: bunch of them. To talk to somebody that, like he
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: just said, is in the conversation for a Hall of
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: Fame pretty soon that also understands how the game has
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: changed just recently. It wasn't that long ago that he
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: was playing.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: He does seem to have kind of a it doesn't
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like it's this overconfident. It's just like
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: the confidence that I think most of us have felt
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: for the last better part of the last two weeks
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: about how the Seahawks team just feels like it's ready
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: for this, they're kind of built for this. He just
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: kind of solidified it with just about every single thing
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: that he said.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree, and I well, look, I'm doing
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: my best. I think I do my best all the time.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: Not to let bias get in the way just because
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: I talked to a Seattle audience. It's genuine. I just
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: think that this is the better football team, and as
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: long as both teams play their normal game, I think
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks win. But that sports right, doesn't mean you're
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: going to show up and not play your Sea game.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: And if they play their A game, you're losing. You're
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: losing that game on Sunday. But I I agree with Gerald,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: and I agree when I mean, Hugh doesn't make predictions, right.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: We had you on at eight o'clock today for his
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: x AS and O segment. He doesn't make predictions. We
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: got done with his segment today and I said, well,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: can't wait to break this one down with you on
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: Monday morning. He said, break down the win with me
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: on Monday morning. Yeah, you doesn't make predictions. Very well
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: known that he doesn't do that, but that's how confident
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: he is. Greg Bell every time we see him extends
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: the amount of points that the Seahawks are gonna win
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: by Greg tries to operate on a day by day
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: menu and by minute basis without bias when he covers
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: this football team, and yet he believes that it's a
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: little I mean, the Seahawks are just the better football team.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: They just are. Now that doesn't mean they'll play the
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: best game and doesn't mean they'll win, but on paper,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: they're just the better football team.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: They're just more ways that they can get it done,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. That's kind of the mo
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: of the way in which I look at sports in general, right.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: I Mean, there was times that I'm up at the
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: plate and it was against Pedro Martinez and there was
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: more ways that he was going to get me out
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: than ways I was going to be successful. That's what
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: it feels like it. You know, it feels like the
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: Seahawks offense can put up numbers and bunches at times.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: We've seen that Sam Darnold can go out and sling
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: it with the best of them. Now we've also seen
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: that there's a there can be a game where that
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: he doesn't do all that well, or that he puts
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: the ball in danger. There is weapons. Jaysen seems borderline unstoppable.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: But the fact that, like what Jaral McCoy was just saying,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: if they were if Mark Mike Vrabel was to figure
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: out a game plan that says, we are not going
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: to let him beat us. Yeah, he might get three
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: four catches, we're gonna tackle him right away. It's four
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: catches for fifty two yards and no touchdowns. That's containing Jaysn. Well,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: if you do that, you do have a guy that was,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: you know, MVP caliber receiver not that long ago. He's
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: not the same guy, but you do have a Cooper
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: Cup there. And then you have a running back that
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: now is kind of for a big bag when it
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: comes to the money and understanding free agencies on the horizon. Uh,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: I just think there's just way more ways And that
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: was just some offensive things and the defense is really
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: the straw that starves the drink in this with this team,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: there's just so many more ways the Seahawks can get
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: it done. But you're right, it's sports. That's the beauty
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: of it. They still got to go out and put
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: their money where their mouth is.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: You know, Bucky, you've had a great week of broadcasting
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: here at at Radio Row, your first time here. You've
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: been really but you have opened yourself up to yet
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: another meme. Right now, Keith Miller is working on Pedro
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: Martinez an Seahawks uniform, pitching to Bucky Jacobson in a
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: Patriot unifors. Oh, he's working on it right now through AI.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: Uh to. He wasn't. He wasn't until you put the idea.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, Keith, I hope you're not listening. Oh, Keith,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: don't do it. And Nick Allen you can keep out
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: of this AI game as well, artists bo of them. No,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: you're not even doing it yourself. It's artificial intelligence, and
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: it's not it's funny, right.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's awesome intelligence.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: It's not awesome. It's just kind of funny.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: It's like having James Cameron and Picasso listening to your
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: show every day.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, keep your creativity to yourself, all right.
• 1:15:20
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  Speaker 1: Right, Uh, here we go, final guest of the week.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: Shouldn't it be Mike Holmgren? Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, should
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: it be? I mean yeah, Hugh Millon's in the running?
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: Well sure, but it's coach Holmgren joining us for his
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: nine thirty segment every Friday on a football Friday. But
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: it's a special Super Bowl Football Friday.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: It's a super Mike Homegren segment. It really is super.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: Mike Holmgren joins us right here on Chuck and Buck
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: in the morning. Hello, Super Mike.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 11: Hello guys. Did I hear you correctly? You say he
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 11: was still in the running?
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: I love it coming in hot throwing some shade out
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: of boy super Bowl.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 11: I was gonna say, I was gonna say, I am
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 11: honored to be in the same conversation.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: A great response by the legend Mike Hongrin is with
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: it's great to have you on. By the way, I
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: just saw Barry Sanders and I was gonna ask him
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: if he would come on this segment with you. But
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: I didn't want you to have your night terrors return
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: to your life.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 11: No, I know, I started right now, so he said,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 11: he said no.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: Huh No, he didn't say no. I didn't have time
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: to go over there and get him.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 5: He left.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: The chare too quick, right, saw Jerry yesterday, Jerry Rice.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, they only bring over the greats and they
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: just tease us with him over here, and then before
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: we can get our headsets off, they're gone.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 11: How was your week good?
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: It's been good. It's been really good. I wish you
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: would have been here. That would have been really the
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: cherry on top of it all if we would have
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: been able to hang out with you a little bit,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: have you down here at Radio Row. But it's good
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: to have you on. So here we go more just
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: a couple of days away from Super Bowl Sunday. What
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: in the world is going through Mike McDonald's mind, the
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: head coach of a team getting ready to coach in
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: his first Super Bowl forty eight hours away.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 11: Well, right now, he's a normal Friday, I think. I
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 11: think he's probably doing red zone and go on and
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 11: those types of things. So he's still got a practice day,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 11: although considerably lighter, I would think, because they've been at
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 11: it for a couple of weeks. But I really didn't
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 11: start thinking, and I think might folly the same way. No,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 11: maybe not. Maybe he's he's got full speed ahead every
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 11: minute of every day. But on Friday, I'd be like that.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 11: And then Saturday, the day before the game. I remember,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 11: I take my family out to dinner Saturday night, you know,
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 11: those types of things, and just kind of just soak
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 11: it in. I'm here, you know, we're finished practicing, we
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 11: have the plan.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 11: I want to sleep good tonight and then tomorrow we'll
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 11: kick it up. So it's at the end of the week.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 11: At the end of the second week, I really thought
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 11: there should be and I should kind of back away
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 11: and just just smell the roses a little bit.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: If you were in Mike McDonald's shoes. Are you wanting
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: to kind of start this game out in aggressive fashion
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: maybe or more cautious fashion. What would just be your
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: overarching theme as to what you're thinking if you had
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: this team to coach in this game?
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 11: You know what, Buck, I think, I don't think it's
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 11: going to be any different really than all the games
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 11: I think you go in. If you're on defense, he's
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 11: going to do all this stuff to stop their offense
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 11: and their young quarterback, and that's not going to change.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 11: And then on offense, you cut it loose. You do
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 11: what you've practiced, you believe in what you've practiced, and
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 11: that first fifteen or however many Clint does on his
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 11: sheet there, that's the score. That's to score a touchdown.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 11: You're looking to see what motions and different things can
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 11: maybe make their defense do, but the ultimate goal is
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 11: to score on that first drive. So I don't think
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 11: you're going to see anything different early. I don't think
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 11: they're going to back off.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: Do you think you'll see something different from McDonald from
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: the standpoint of how aggressive he's been recently on fourth
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: and medium, not taking the points going for it. I mean,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: this is a topic that we've discussed a lot. But
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: this game, maybe more so than any other game. Is
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: this feel to you like a please take the points
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: kind of game for both these teams, Seahawks and Patriots.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: Considering the defense of might that's going to be on
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: the football field.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 11: Sunday, Well, you know what I think. All year in
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 11: the studio and we've talked about it, I said it,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 11: and you said it, but said, I think we said
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 11: take the points, get the points, get them on the board,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 11: and they haven't done that. I mean, the league hasn't
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 11: done that. Guys are going forward on fourth down. It's different.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 11: So I don't I really Again, it's the Super Bowl, certainly,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 11: but the strategy that got you here is going to
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 11: be I think the strategy they use in the football game.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 11: And again I might be yelling at the screen, take
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 11: the field goal, take it and in all probabilities they'll
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 11: go for it and fourth down.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: Coach h what kind of a boost does it get
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: for an offense? I think that, you know, I think
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: that the Seahawks are a better team if you just
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: go man for man. I think that this is a
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: game that they could not easily but they should win.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: But What kind of advantage is it when you think
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: of a Josh McDaniel that is going to be called
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: and plays that they you know, that matchup him against
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald's defense is going to be a big tail
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: of how this game goes. Josh McDaniels has been here,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: he's been in these big games, he's won these big games,
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: called and plays. How big of a boost is it
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: when you I mean, you were a guy that called
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: plays in multiple Super Bowls. How much more comfortable did
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: you feel when you got more of that experience under
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: your belt?
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 11: I excuse me, Buck, I think you do get more comfortable.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 11: That's why I said, come on and and get the
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 11: Super Bowl jitters out of your system. When you walk
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 11: on the field in pregame and Saturday night or whatever,
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  Speaker 11: and then when the game starts, did your play selection?
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  Speaker 11: How you're doing it? Both Josh and Clint are excellent
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  Speaker 11: play callers. And I don't think I just think it's
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  Speaker 11: gonna be I think it's gonna be a little closer
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  Speaker 11: than people think the game. But I still think the
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  Speaker 11: Seahawks are gonna win. I think they're a better football team.
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  Speaker 11: But as far as the two offensive coordinators. They're gonna
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  Speaker 11: let it fly and you might see the Chuck's point.
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  Speaker 11: I think you're gonna see maybe a couple of little
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  Speaker 11: weird things happened early in the game.
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion Mike Holmgren with us right here on
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  Speaker 1: Chuck and Buck in the morning. So, are you gonna
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  Speaker 1: wear your Super Bowl rings on Sunday? I mean, even
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  Speaker 1: though you're gonna probably be from home just having snacks
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  Speaker 1: with Kathy and the family, are you just gonna flawn it?
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna brag in front of all the family members
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday?
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  Speaker 11: Well, I have a plan. See, all my grandsons are
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  Speaker 11: coming over, four of them, and granddaughters are there too,
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  Speaker 11: so they might get mad, but I'm gonna bring them out.
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  Speaker 11: They're also each gonna wear one. Oh, I've got I
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  Speaker 11: got rinks for everybody with the backup rings and stuff.
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  Speaker 11: So I'm gonna I'm gonna flaunt it out there a
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  Speaker 11: little bit. I don't think I'm gonna wear one. Kathy
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  Speaker 11: certainly isn't gonna wear one.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'll wear one.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, I'll see you on Monday when I I'll see
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  Speaker 11: you on Monday. Yeah, Yeah, I'm bringing him in I'm
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  Speaker 11: bringing him in Monday. We'll wear one last time this year.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, Coach Ogrin is with us, all right, so tell me, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: I got to get your reaction to this nick Emon
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  Speaker 1: worry thing. You're getting ready for the super Bowl and
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  Speaker 1: then practice on Wednesday, one of your best weapons rolls
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  Speaker 1: his ankle. What does that do to a head coach
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  Speaker 1: that close to to game time, to see that good
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  Speaker 1: of a player go down with that mysterious of a situation.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, that's that's a little bit of a shock, and
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  Speaker 11: you never want to see that happen. And then what
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  Speaker 11: you tell yourself is look at it's it happened. So
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 11: now I'm relying on the doctors, and the doctors better
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  Speaker 11: tell me what I want to hear, you know, otherwise
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 11: their jobs are on the line. So you know, I
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  Speaker 11: remember studying when they told me how so back couldn't
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  Speaker 11: play anymore? Is his last year? My last year. I said,
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  Speaker 11: you're all fired. Get out of my office there ten
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  Speaker 11: there I did, and I obviously they say they looked
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 11: at me, and I go, all right, I know I
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  Speaker 11: can't do that, but but no, it's it's he's such
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 11: a vital part of their defense. But it's my understanding
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 11: that that he's going to play. Is that what you
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 11: guys hear here?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he'll play.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, but you know if he's not the guy that
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 11: he has been because of the injury, which is understandable,
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  Speaker 11: then you know that that helps, that helps the Patriots.
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  Speaker 11: He really does.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, I got to tell you this, uh
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: be because we were watching yes today. We had a
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: little downtime yesterday for the first time this week, and
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: so Bucky and I were getting ready to throw a party.
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  Speaker 1: Were the only two people that attended, and so we
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: had to find some stuff to watch, and we stumbled
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: upon a John Elway documentary. And even though they didn't
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: show you in the documentary as forty nine Ers offensive
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  Speaker 1: coordinator laughing at the Broncos, Bucky, did you know have
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: to watch highlights of you dominating the Denver Broncos and
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl yesterday?
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  Speaker 2: It was fun.
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  Speaker 11: I feel really bad about that. I'm sorry. Yeah, although
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  Speaker 11: I remember out loud, out loud, we're doing this and
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  Speaker 11: this is awesome. I didn't know Bucket the time. Now
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  Speaker 11: I feel now I feel really bad about it.
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  Speaker 2: No you don't, Yeah, I don't think.
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  Speaker 3: No, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I don't out at all.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So what do you think you're feeling good
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  Speaker 1: about Sunday for the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, I am. I think it's gonna be like I said,
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  Speaker 11: I think it's gonna be a little closer than people think.
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  Speaker 11: But I think the Seahawks are the better team, and
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 11: I think it's gonna also be a little bit low scoring.
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  Speaker 11: I don't think it's gonna be the thirty five, thirty
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  Speaker 11: six winner, you know. I think it's gonna be down
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  Speaker 11: in the twenties.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Coach, thank you very much. We appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Enjoy Sunday with the family. We'll see you on Monday.
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  Speaker 1: We will be recapping a Super Bowl with you. We
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  Speaker 1: can't wait.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, safe trip home, guys.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, coach.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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