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After the Whistle: USMNT Heartbreak, FIFA Chaos & Racism Exposed · The Regulars

• 0:00
  Welcome one and all. It's a Monday night. You're drinking with your friends and it's not even Monday anymore. It's Tuesday. There's been too much soccer. We drink too much. Welcome to the regulars. I'm Cody Deckard. I'm Tanya Ray Fox.
• 0:12
  It's a cold open Tuesday and we felt like trying shit. So welcome. This might be a new way to go. We got a lot to cover today.
• 0:29
  Especially for people who are tuning in like off the top of our stream. I feel like it's like nice to see us. We're here. We're officially here. You're not missing anything.
• 0:37
  Then you have to watch our artistic open. Which is a phenomenal open. Jesse Kivel's incredible Beach Hill Meditation. Great song by the way.
• 0:49
  And of course all our great shots that we got around town at the bars that we're kind of already regulars at. It was a genius on your part. Thank you for noticing.
• 1:00
  Really well done. I went to film school. That's what I did it for. Exactly that. It worked out. I've been watching a lot of podcasts lately pulling inspiration and I was like you know what?
• 1:12
  I think these people should be hearing from us sooner. They should hear our annoying voices off the top off the jump. I don't want to give them a reprieve too early.
• 1:20
  I think it's fair. I think it's a fair move. I like that we're trying things and that's what it's all about. Trying new shit.
• 1:26
  What a weekend it was. How was your 4th of July? How are you feeling? I was in Catalina Island. I got so drunk and so high at all times. It was great. It was very relaxing. I was asleep every night by 9.
• 1:37
  I had an interesting weekend. Our friends had extra tickets to the America 250 show at the Coliseum. How was it?
• 1:47
  It was wild. Chris and I got there way early. It was very bizarre. They were playing commercials on this stage. It was very much set up for the live stream for everybody to watch on.
• 1:57
  There was a lot of rigging. The sound was okay. They had a couple people come out. Anthony Ramos does the national anthem. I sit because I'm in Colin Kaepernick territory for the rest of my life until something changes.
• 2:11
  Anthony Ramos was great. Maren Morris came out and did a sound check style performance of a few of her hit songs. Chris and I were like, what are we really watching? It was gorgeous. It's the Coliseum. We're there. We're having a neutral.
• 2:24
  How was the Coliseum? I haven't been to the Coliseum in a while. It's great. I think the Coliseum is awesome because it's old school. It's nostalgic being at the Coliseum. The renovations have kept it in really good condition.
• 2:38
  I'm glad to hear it because I know they sunk in $250 million 10 years ago. It's still very much the Coliseum. It still very much feels like you're at an old school stadium. Also, the seats are very small, very close together, very Fenway.
• 2:50
  I've never loved it, but I do appreciate what it is. It's very Fenway-esque, so I'm used to it. It was cool, but then the best part. Chaka Khan comes out. I'm fucking listening.
• 3:02
  Yeah, and she is full band. Drummer is insane. Her guitarist is insane. She's in this gorgeous gold and black outfit. Her body is fire. She looks so hot. She can still sing so well. It's insane.
• 3:19
  She was so good. It was the highlight of the night. Incredible. Chris and I were like, holy fucking shit. She's still really good. And then, really exciting, a bunch of the teens in the crowd, old teens, maybe young 20s, really into Chaka Khan, which I loved.
• 3:39
  Then, Smashing Pumpkins comes out, because they're launching their tour. Never seen Smashing Pumpkins, and still great. They sounded great. Good to hear that, because I saw Billy about eight years ago, and boy, oh boy, could he not hit a fucking note on any of his songs.
• 3:55
  He still can't. He has to adjust, but he's, I think, over time, done a much better job of adjusting for the notes he can't hit anymore. I saw Billy Joel at Madison Square Garden. Now, I'm freely admitting it's not primetime Billy Joel anymore, but he's also down-tuned a lot of his songs, so he can still hit a lot of those notes.
• 4:13
  He's doing some of that. There's some stuff he's just never going to be able to do at this age, where his voice is at, but the performance was still great. The band was awesome, and it was cool. The energy was right. People were into it, which was really, really fun. That was cool. That's the recap.
• 4:28
  I'm glad you told me that, because the Coliseum, I did something, I wouldn't say irresponsible. I did something kind of different, and I don't know if I've even talked to you about it yet. My school, UCLA, where I went to, they always call me asking for donations, because they need my fucking money for some reason.
• 4:44
  You're the richest guy who went to UCLA.
• 4:46
  Yeah, they don't have better alumni. That being said, UCLA has been extremely good to me over the years. I'll give you an example of how UCLA has been very good to me. When I was a minor league baseball player, I gave hitting lessons out of the UCLA batting cages for seven years.
• 5:00
  That alone, them letting me do that, basically running a private business by myself out of their cages, and they didn't charge me for it, that saved my entire baseball career. I've funded my entire baseball career. It was a grind, so I was giving lessons for seven hours a day.
• 5:15
  But they allowed me to make money, which if it weren't for UCLA, I never would have been able to make it to the big leagues or have any semblance of the career that I have. So they got me, and the reason I asked you about the Coliseum is because you know I've always talked a lot of shit about the Rose Bowl.
• 5:31
  By the way, shit that I'm right about. It's a bitch to get in and out of. It's a pain. As bad as Dodger Stadium is to get in, because there's only four entrances in the Chavez Ravine, there's only four entrances in the fucking Rose Bowl, and they're bad entrances. You have at least three ways to get there. You're taking city streets.
• 5:50
  We took the train in and walked six minutes to- I'm glad you're telling me, because that's what I'm going to end up doing, because I got season tickets to the Rose Bowl this year, because UCLA has sunk- No, no, no, I'm talking about to the Coliseum. Okay, okay, I was about to get excited. I thought maybe the Pasadena train takes six minutes away.
• 6:08
  No, the Coliseum, that's my point, is so easy to get to. We literally got dropped off, six minute walk, right inside. I know, and it's a really- I prefer just even the- I think it's such an iconic L.A. look, you know, with the little- Yeah, it's badass.
• 6:26
  Rose Bowl is cool. It's huge. Both these places are huge. This thing has been around since like 1920. Well, here's the good news. UCLA has apparently sunk in like $300 million into the actual place, and they're building this new private area and bar area that I decided to buy tickets to. I'm going to basically watch it from this indoor-outdoor bar that's going to be in the end zone. I do want to go to that. I'm going to take you, at least one game. I will not be driving. No, neither am I. I plan to Uber there and Uber out.
• 6:54
  It's going to be a nice Uber out there.
• 6:56
  I'll figure it out how we're going to fucking do this, but I am not driving in and out of the Rose Bowl. I'd rather put a gun in my mouth. No shot.
• 7:02
  It sounds like it'll be worth it once we're there.
• 7:04
  No, no. Once we're there, it sounds like it's going to be absolutely awesome. I'm very excited for that, but let's get into it because we got headlines and holy shit, Tanya, the World Cup.
• 7:12
  The new biggest soccer fan in the world.
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  Dude, I used to-
• 7:15
  This man loves football.
• 7:16
  I used to talk so much shit. By the way, I'm not wrong about the shit that I talk. The perception of soccer in this country was very, very clear, and it's because the MLS is boring.
• 7:27
  Yeah, I mean, I think that I will say, I'm not going to lie, I think now that you have been into the sport as much as you have because of the World Cup, I'd be surprised if you were as bored as you were before.
• 7:38
  Maybe, and by the way, I might try to tune into some MLS shit.
• 7:42
  Be more into MLS and NWSL now. You're going to notice there's obviously, there should be a difference in the level of soccer in the MLS versus the World Cup.
• 7:52
  There's a difference between the World Cup and a lot of other leagues, but I would be surprised if it wasn't at least more interesting to you than it was before.
• 8:00
  But, you know, the United States did not exactly give it their best shot in their final outing here, so not a great recommendation of United States men's soccer.
• 8:12
  It just got awful.
• 8:13
  Really, so you watched it out, I watched it at home, I was alone under the weather yesterday, and I was so glad I did because I was in a really, I was in a really bad mood.
• 8:22
  Like it really bummed me out.
• 8:23
  I knew that the United States could lose that game.
• 8:26
  I was under no belief that the United States was going to win the World Cup, but I did think that they could win that game.
• 8:31
  I did too.
• 8:32
  Especially with Bella Goon being back.
• 8:35
  We'll talk about that.
• 8:36
  That is coming.
• 8:37
  I don't want to get into it quite yet, but especially with him being back, and it was one mistake, one lazy, you know, showing after another.
• 8:47
  Later on in the show, we are going to talk about the backlash that Christian Pulisic is facing right now.
• 8:52
  He's getting a lot of it.
• 8:53
  So we're going to talk about that, especially the way it's being covered in the media, because I think that's a really interesting angle right now.
• 8:58
  But overall, there was, you know, my biggest takeaway was that this team looked like, outside of that sort of, this was supposed to be the golden era, right?
• 9:07
  The golden era, the new golden era since Tim Howard and Landon Donovan, and the days of the last time that they faced Belgium, which was a much, much more, like, you know, truly legitimate showing.
• 9:18
  This was supposed to be the next step up, and it looked like they were there, and it was as flat as it could have possibly been.
• 9:26
  The goal tending was awful.
• 9:27
  I don't understand why Pochettino really insisted on Matt Fries.
• 9:30
  The first time that he was really challenged in a game, he truly fell flat on his face, and I'm not trying to hate.
• 9:36
  I hate, I do not want to hate on players for the worst moments of their careers in front of billions of people.
• 9:43
  But that was a player that was not ready for that moment at all.
• 9:46
  And you saw it with that third goal on the Belgium side.
• 9:49
  I mean, that was, I mean, he cooed himself.
• 9:52
  And I understand what happened.
• 9:53
  I truly do understand what happened.
• 9:55
  But you know what could have solved everything?
• 9:57
  If he just kicked the fucking ball.
• 9:58
  I understood that he felt somebody in his back pocket that he did not know was there, but if he just kicked the fucking ball, no problem.
• 10:05
  And we're still in this game that we are god-awfully flat in.
• 10:08
  Give yourself time to get back to the goal.
• 10:10
  And, you know, you're caught out of position, okay.
• 10:12
  You don't want to fall on the ball and get hit in the head, fine.
• 10:15
  But you've got to do something there.
• 10:17
  The instincts have to kick in.
• 10:18
  And we have Matt Turner on the team with a lot more experience, who looked pretty good in the game that he played.
• 10:23
  So it's really frustrating, especially after watching, you know, the type of goal tending that we've watched all World Cup long.
• 10:30
  We've watched some of the best goal tending I've personally ever seen in any tournament, men's or women's.
• 10:35
  It's been incredible.
• 10:36
  And it turns out the greatest goalie ever is from a small Rhode Island-sized nation off the coast of Africa.
• 10:42
  And is 40.
• 10:43
  And is 40 and has worked as an electrician and a plumber.
• 10:46
  And likely will no longer have to work as either of those things anymore.
• 10:49
  But the best the United States could put out there was Matt Fries with his 16 caps or whatever he's had.
• 10:54
  That's so frustrating.
• 10:55
  And again, this is, please, I'm not, like, the last thing I want is for Matt Fries to feel worse.
• 11:00
  I don't think he was set up.
• 11:02
  He shouldn't have been the goaltender.
• 11:04
  I think he's a professional goaltender.
• 11:05
  I just don't think he should have been the professional goaltender for this tournament.
• 11:08
  And let's talk about, you know, we're going to talk more about that United States game and what happened.
• 11:13
  But let's talk about England versus Mexico, which was the exact opposite, I mean, of what we had to witness with the United States.
• 11:19
  It was amazing.
• 11:20
  Oh, my God.
• 11:21
  First of all, Mexico has been on fire this whole tournament.
• 11:25
  I really thought that Mexico went into that game as the better team.
• 11:30
  Wow.
• 11:31
  I did not expect you to say that.
• 11:32
  Do you mean that, like, players-wise?
• 11:34
  Or do you just think a melding of a team that actually runs on it?
• 11:37
  With the way they've been playing in the tournament, right?
• 11:40
  Like, they, I did not, ahead of this, I had no expectations of Mexico.
• 11:44
  Then they've been playing lights out, especially in the Azteca.
• 11:47
  They're playing in Azteca.
• 11:48
  They're playing in Mexico City.
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  This is home field, and they have been clicking on all cylinders, whereas England has been sort of in an up and down, right?
• 11:56
  It's taken a lot of, like, heroics from Harry Kane, heroics here and there, whatever.
• 12:01
  Things have had to, like, kind of coalesce for them to win games.
• 12:03
  But they do have an incredibly deep squad.
• 12:05
  Okay.
• 12:07
  If you had told me they were going to be down to ten men for that long and have to defend that long and that they would hold on, I would never have believed you.
• 12:17
  This was like watching a Jonathan Demme film when it comes down to the amount of anxiety you felt at all times.
• 12:26
  Because Mexico had the pressure on for fucking 40 minutes, and it never stopped.
• 12:33
  They never stopped attacking.
• 12:34
  They never stopped trying.
• 12:36
  It was, I had no real dog in the race.
• 12:39
  I was rooting for Mexico because they're Mexico.
• 12:41
  I was rooting for Mexico, too.
• 12:42
  But I was like, I won't lose sleep if England goes forward.
• 12:45
  It means I get to listen to more fucking Wonderwall.
• 12:46
  That's great.
• 12:47
  But, like, holy shit.
• 12:49
  And I had Charlie Davies on the show this morning on The Fan.
• 12:52
  Oh, nice.
• 12:53
  And we've been having him on every week, and he's been phenomenal.
• 12:55
  But how he described the juxtaposition between Mexico and the United States in their final outing, he basically put it this way.
• 13:04
  Mexican fans will attack their own players if they don't like what they're seeing.
• 13:08
  They will throw beer at them.
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  They will shout at them.
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  They will hold them beyond accountability.
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  Which I'm not a fan of.
• 13:14
  Which I'm not always a fan of.
• 13:15
  We don't need to be throwing beer at anybody.
• 13:16
  No, no, I agree.
• 13:17
  But, like, he was trying to make this example of what these fans are.
• 13:20
  There was not a single dry eye in that town.
• 13:22
  There was not a single Mexican fan that was not so proud of that team.
• 13:26
  They tried, and they died on that field.
• 13:28
  They gave everything they had, and they just couldn't get through.
• 13:32
  But they left it all out there.
• 13:34
  Sure as fuck can't say that about the U.S. team.
• 13:38
  That was fucking terrible.
• 13:40
  I mean, there is no better example of what it looks like to hold down the fort and really grind it out
• 13:48
  than both Mexico trying and England holding it down.
• 13:51
  I mean, first of all, Jude Bellingham played out of his fucking mind.
• 13:54
  So fucking crazy.
• 13:55
  It's the best I've seen him play at the international level.
• 13:57
  What a time to have the best international game you've ever had.
• 14:00
  And also just the most English of last names I've ever heard in my life.
• 14:04
  The whole name.
• 14:05
  The whole name, Jude Bellingham.
• 14:06
  I mean, they literally sing a Beatles song in him.
• 14:08
  It sounds like there should be a terrible Beef Wellington type of meal made after that day.
• 14:12
  Oh yeah, the Jude Bellingham.
• 14:13
  Oh, the Jude Bellingham.
• 14:14
  It's like the worst version of Beef Wellington.
• 14:18
  It's just a terrible roast, and I don't know.
• 14:22
  The old Jude Bellingham.
• 14:23
  Give me a Jude Bellingham.
• 14:25
  He's class A. He's class now.
• 14:27
  But he put on a performance, and the other person who stood out to everybody was Jordan Pickford, the keeper.
• 14:33
  Oh my god, right.
• 14:35
  Incredible moment for me because, as you know, I'm never wrong.
• 14:38
  And when I go to the mat for somebody, when I really don't let up, you should not be arguing with me.
• 14:45
  And I've been arguing with people on Jordan Pickford for the entire tournament.
• 14:50
  Actually for years now because he's the keeper for Everton.
• 14:53
  So I've watched just about every Jordan Pickford game that I could watch in the last decade.
• 14:58
  And he's one of the best keepers in the world.
• 15:01
  That's why he's been England's keeper for three World Cups.
• 15:04
  There is a very weird relationship that the English fans have with him because he is undersized.
• 15:10
  And he plays a specific style.
• 15:13
  He's easily the best keeper they've ever had in the history of their country.
• 15:19
  And that performance did not surprise me.
• 15:22
  I knew he had it in him, and I've been telling everybody the difference between England and a lot of these countries
• 15:28
  is that they have one of the most experienced goalkeepers in the world, and he's not afraid.
• 15:33
  If you had to pick one goalkeeper to be in that situation, down a man, and have to defend for that long,
• 15:40
  I don't care who takes some of the best that I've ever played, he's one of the best you could pick.
• 15:45
  He does not give a fuck.
• 15:47
  That whole aggressiveness, going out and getting the ball, not being afraid, getting it downfield, the pace,
• 15:53
  seeing him quarterback the team from where he was, that's Jordan Pickford.
• 15:58
  That's what he does, and he will be the difference maker for this team if they are able to win a Cup.
• 16:03
  So it was really fun to watch that.
• 16:05
  The whole match was incredible to watch.
• 16:07
  And again, the juxtaposition of seeing that over to the U.S. side,
• 16:11
  and yeah, we're going to talk more about the U.S. side and what else contributed to the fucked-up nature of the entire 48 hours.
• 16:19
  Trust me, I'm still just sitting here, cannot believe what the fuck has happened in the last four and a half days.
• 16:26
  It's just been batshit crazy, and frankly, horrifically embarrassing.
• 16:31
  So I really am excited to talk to you about that specifically.
• 16:34
  But kind of to get back over to the good things of the World Cup,
• 16:37
  before we get to the outrageous and abhorrent fucking controversy and, I don't know, corruption,
• 16:44
  which FIFA is really good at, let's talk about the game today.
• 16:48
  Because holy shit, one game I was bored to tears, of course, until the end.
• 16:53
  PKs always brings it back, yeah.
• 16:55
  My God, PKs are fucking electric.
• 16:57
  And of course, the outrageousness of watching Egypt fall to pieces with only, what, 11 minutes to go in this matchup?
• 17:05
  I think it was 10 minutes.
• 17:07
  My God, I cannot fucking believe that happened.
• 17:12
  And by the way, it was really that last, in extra time,
• 17:16
  that last five minutes in the stoppage time when they got that final goal.
• 17:20
  That final goal, I cannot wait to hear your takeaway from that.
• 17:25
  Because my takeaway from that was, what the fuck are you guys doing?
• 17:29
  They really wanted to get a foul for Salah, I get it, but it did not look like one even a little to me.
• 17:36
  But you might have a different read.
• 17:38
  I'm sorry, it looked like it was mild contact and he went down.
• 17:41
  They were talking about it on the broadcast.
• 17:43
  Rules analysts were saying, they probably should have varred it.
• 17:48
  But here's the thing, Egypt played the better game, the whole game, right?
• 17:54
  It was inarguable.
• 17:56
  We've been talking about FIFA corruption, we're going to talk more about FIFA corruption.
• 17:59
  But the reality is, Messi had set a World Cup record for,
• 18:04
  nobody's ever missed two penalty kicks in a World Cup tournament, let alone in the same game.
• 18:10
  Truly not a record you want to set when you're the greatest of all time.
• 18:14
  By the way, wasn't going to stop us from saying that, but he was not having a good game.
• 18:18
  He was not having a good game.
• 18:20
  And there was a shift in the way it was sort of being officiated.
• 18:25
  There was a speed that they suddenly got.
• 18:27
  Listen, Messi is an otherworldly player, but he's still 39 years old.
• 18:33
  And it takes a little bit of help from the team and everybody else to get him going.
• 18:37
  He had already missed a couple kicks.
• 18:39
  It feels like the result was a little bit...
• 18:45
  Forced?
• 18:46
  Manipulated.
• 18:47
  Of course.
• 18:49
  Lakers-Kingsmen.
• 18:51
  It doesn't feel great.
• 18:52
  It doesn't.
• 18:53
  It feels like all the hosts are gone, Cristiano Ronaldo is out, Messi's down 2-0 with 10 minutes to go.
• 19:01
  He's missed both his penalty kicks.
• 19:03
  And then they win the game 3-0.
• 19:05
  Now, listen.
• 19:06
  Sports are crazy.
• 19:07
  This shit happens.
• 19:08
  Sports are crazy.
• 19:09
  This shit happens.
• 19:10
  But, you know, as I was kind of watching back, I'm like, man.
• 19:14
  I can't see anything that's definitively like there's the thing they did wrong that makes it look like it was manipulated.
• 19:22
  But I can't tell you that it looked the same as it did.
• 19:25
  There was...
• 19:29
  I don't know.
• 19:30
  Everything's rotten in Denmark, is what you're saying.
• 19:32
  I get it.
• 19:33
  And trust me, I...
• 19:34
  Our team has not played well.
• 19:35
  They only lost to Cabo Verde.
• 19:36
  Dude, it crossed my mind, too.
• 19:37
  I'm not going to sit here and pretend it didn't.
• 19:39
  But at the same time, you know, you and I have watched this.
• 19:42
  We've watched this with these goats forever.
• 19:44
  Tiger Woods coming back and winning the Masters.
• 19:46
  Tom Brady playing until he was 45.
• 19:48
  Shit happens, man.
• 19:49
  LeBron James is 41 years old.
• 19:50
  Serena Williams...
• 19:51
  And he's dominating the free agent market now.
• 19:53
  Serena Williams is still playing fucking tennis.
• 19:55
  Yeah, she is.
• 19:56
  We just live in an era where these players are not...
• 20:00
  They're just on another fucking level.
• 20:01
  Longevity is...
• 20:02
  But I'm really bummed because I'm over it with Messi.
• 20:05
  I don't find him particularly compelling anymore.
• 20:08
  I think watching him when he's at his best is amazing.
• 20:11
  I just...
• 20:12
  He's not at his best anymore.
• 20:13
  I mean, I think people don't understand that, like,
• 20:15
  watching Messi in his prime was something fucking else.
• 20:18
  And right now, it just very much feels like Messi's getting a lot of opportunities.
• 20:22
  He's gotten away with handballs.
• 20:24
  He's gotten away with red card tackles.
• 20:26
  He got away with a red card.
• 20:27
  He's gotten away with a lot on the field.
• 20:29
  And it's like, yeah, if you give one of the best players in the world
• 20:31
  free reign to do whatever the fuck they want on the field,
• 20:34
  then they're going to stay with Mbappe and the goals, you know,
• 20:38
  and that's what they want.
• 20:39
  That's what they want.
• 20:40
  They want France-Argentina.
• 20:42
  Yeah.
• 20:43
  Of course they do.
• 20:44
  I know what they want.
• 20:45
  And the whole world...
• 20:46
  Right now, the whole world is fuck Messi, fuck Argentina.
• 20:49
  Nobody's on their side.
• 20:50
  So, you know, uphill battle in terms of getting public support.
• 20:55
  But FIFA's got their back.
• 20:57
  I'm really...
• 20:58
  I'm still...
• 20:59
  I enjoy Spain.
• 21:00
  I'm going to continue enjoying Spain.
• 21:02
  I'm enjoying England.
• 21:03
  I'm going to continue enjoying England.
• 21:05
  And France is always fun to watch.
• 21:07
  It's Mbappe for me, for sure.
• 21:09
  No matter what, I got things to watch.
• 21:11
  It's, like, annoying because, like,
• 21:12
  English fans fuck the whole situation a lot of times,
• 21:15
  although some of them are great, some of them are awful,
• 21:17
  just like Americans, right?
• 21:18
  Some American fans are the best and some of them are the worst.
• 21:20
  And a lot of us suck.
• 21:21
  And that's what I feel about the English fans.
• 21:23
  And...
• 21:24
  But their team, man, like, dude...
• 21:27
  And I love Harry Kane.
• 21:28
  I love Bukayo Saka.
• 21:29
  I love Marcus Rashford.
• 21:31
  I love these players.
• 21:32
  Jed Spence is my new favorite player.
• 21:34
  Like, I like their team.
• 21:35
  So, yeah.
• 21:37
  It's...
• 21:38
  The World Cup's been outrageous.
• 21:39
  We haven't even mentioned Holland and everything that he's done.
• 21:42
  And, whew!
• 21:43
  Yep, yep.
• 21:44
  The tournament ain't over, man.
• 21:45
  We're about to get Norway-England.
• 21:47
  So, you know, it's tough.
• 21:49
  Someone's got to go.
• 21:50
  Holland versus Jude.
• 21:52
  Listen, I just want...
• 21:54
  I'm going to take the Elmo approach in this one.
• 21:56
  I just want everyone to have a good time.
• 21:58
  I just want everyone to have fun on this one.
• 22:00
  Elmo loves everybody.
• 22:01
  Everybody.
• 22:02
  Let's not make it a thing.
• 22:03
  Let's not do that.
• 22:04
  Let's not make this one a thing.
• 22:05
  Thank you.
• 22:06
  Which, by the way, was a fucking hilarious video.
• 22:08
  All right.
• 22:09
  So, let's get into...
• 22:10
  I have a different take that I would like to open with on our next subject.
• 22:13
  Okay, let's do it.
• 22:14
  Because we're going to get into, for the next couple of segments,
• 22:17
  the outrageous racism in the World Cup.
• 22:20
  Yeah.
• 22:21
  I want to say that it's made me smile a little bit in a weird way,
• 22:27
  and I'm going to tell you why.
• 22:28
  Dude's smiling at racism.
• 22:29
  Nope, I'm not smiling at racism.
• 22:31
  It's just good to know we're not the fucking only fucked up ones.
• 22:35
  Thank God we're not the only fucking nightmare out there.
• 22:39
  We're a nightmare, but Argentina's out there.
• 22:42
  Oh, yeah.
• 22:43
  Holy shit, and there are senators in Paraguay.
• 22:47
  What the fuck is going on?
• 22:50
  I've been trying to tell people for a long time.
• 22:52
  Holy shit.
• 22:53
  We've talked about it a little bit on this show.
• 22:55
  Soccer is a horrifically racist sport.
• 22:58
  Dude.
• 22:59
  And we have been so blessed to have a really wonderful cultural exchange
• 23:02
  in this World Cup, and things have been really great,
• 23:04
  but now we're getting down in the nitty-gritty,
• 23:05
  and we're getting down to the difficult rounds,
• 23:07
  and we're getting down to people losing favorites, getting kicked out,
• 23:10
  and things are getting ugly.
• 23:12
  And this is a very racist sport.
• 23:14
  I mean, we talk about it all the time in the United States with every league,
• 23:17
  and we're always going to hold them accountable,
• 23:19
  but the level to which these fans feel comfortable being outwardly racist,
• 23:23
  senators and public figures being outwardly racist,
• 23:25
  some of the stuff that the broadcasters have been saying,
• 23:28
  fashion schweinsteiger,
• 23:30
  there have been some horrific shit said by these broadcasters.
• 23:34
  Really?
• 23:35
  I've missed some shit.
• 23:36
  Oh, yeah, talking about how –
• 23:39
  so I think it was a former Paraguayan coach, maybe,
• 23:43
  talking about how black players don't have the concentration
• 23:48
  to play for more than 60 to 80 minutes.
• 23:50
  What?
• 23:51
  Fashion schweinsteiger said something that was super racist
• 23:54
  that I can't even remember now.
• 23:56
  Like, it's been really bad.
• 23:57
  It's been getting worse and worse.
• 23:59
  And these players have –
• 24:00
  so the story that we're going to kind of talk about now
• 24:04
  is something that Kylian Mbappé dealt with from a Paraguayan senator.
• 24:09
  Now, Mbappé has been dealing with racism in Europe.
• 24:13
  Shocker, right?
• 24:15
  But this senator, just for everybody who's not up to par,
• 24:21
  Amaria described Mbappé as a colonized Cameroonian
• 24:25
  desperately trying to pass himself off as French
• 24:27
  and as a brute who had not learned to write.
• 24:30
  Paraguay's players should have slapped him after the match, she said.
• 24:34
  She also made reference to some other stuff that –
• 24:40
  honestly, just, like, it's starting to feel uncomfortable to read.
• 24:44
  Not going to repeat that shit.
• 24:45
  So Mbappé – I mean, even reading that was tough.
• 24:47
  Mbappé responded,
• 24:49
  Madame Celeste Amaria, you are a despicable woman
• 24:51
  and unworthy of your position.
• 24:53
  You do not represent Paraguay, that country,
• 24:55
  which has sweated passion and honor through their competition.
• 25:00
  He said that her tirade was a distraction
• 25:02
  from the tremendous accomplishment of Paraguay at the World Cup
• 25:05
  and added, through your recklessness and your brazen racism,
• 25:08
  the entire world has forgotten the journey and historic effort
• 25:10
  that your players accomplished during this World Cup,
• 25:13
  making a way for an incompetent woman
• 25:16
  who gives the worst possible image of her country.
• 25:20
  She continued on and responded to him in this crazy long letter
• 25:23
  where she deflected and said more stupid shit
• 25:25
  and talked about a bunch of other stuff.
• 25:27
  Again, her words are really rough,
• 25:29
  but it's very easy to find it.
• 25:31
  But she used nearly half the letter to criticize Mbappé's response
• 25:34
  and demanded an apology from him,
• 25:36
  accusing him of gender-based violence
• 25:38
  and how he'd spoken about her
• 25:40
  and threatening legal action if he did not retract his comments.
• 25:43
  Who are you to call me indignant or despicable
• 25:45
  when you don't even know me, she asked.
• 25:47
  And remember, she started calling him racist slurs.
• 25:51
  This lady's out of her fucking mind.
• 25:53
  This is a fucking psychopath.
• 25:55
  And this man is, like, going after a World Cup title,
• 25:59
  is in the lead, you know, tying, basically,
• 26:01
  essentially, for the golden boot right now.
• 26:03
  He is doing everything he possibly can.
• 26:05
  He's one of the most beloved players in the world.
• 26:07
  And no matter what he fucking does,
• 26:10
  no matter how well he plays,
• 26:12
  no matter how classy he is, by the way,
• 26:14
  he didn't hold her response,
• 26:16
  he didn't hold the Paraguayan people responsible
• 26:18
  for what their senator said.
• 26:19
  He did not say it was a reflection of the country.
• 26:21
  Now, Paraguay played a pretty shady game in that game, right?
• 26:24
  Oh, man, they were doing everything they possibly could.
• 26:27
  They were doing everything they could.
• 26:29
  But at the end of the day, they knew who they were up against,
• 26:32
  and they were trying to get away with it,
• 26:33
  and I don't necessarily blame them,
• 26:35
  but neither did Mbappe.
• 26:37
  He was never going to do it.
• 26:38
  He never stooped.
• 26:39
  And the class, like, the integrity that it took
• 26:43
  in that moment to respond that way,
• 26:45
  his response to be so gracious as to remind her
• 26:49
  how lovely the people of her country are
• 26:52
  and how she is a fucking embarrassment to them,
• 26:54
  how could we not relate to that
• 26:56
  with what we've been dealing with, right?
• 26:58
  I mean, truly, it was so wild
• 27:00
  because at the same exact time that this was happening,
• 27:03
  so many Americans are being attacked
• 27:05
  for what Trump did to supposedly interfere
• 27:10
  with getting Balagoon back on the team
• 27:14
  with the red card suspension.
• 27:16
  And I dealt with it all weekend
• 27:18
  because I talk about this a lot on the internet.
• 27:20
  People, you know, saying some pretty horrific shit
• 27:23
  about Balagoon because of what Trump did.
• 27:28
  And here's Mbappe, an actual player
• 27:31
  who has endured the racist abuse himself,
• 27:36
  never looking to hold anyone accountable but her.
• 27:39
  And it's like, he said it.
• 27:41
  He just said, like, one of the best examples that you...
• 27:45
  I almost hesitate to even call it a good example
• 27:47
  because I don't even want people to think
• 27:49
  or respond this way.
• 27:51
  Like, you don't actually have to be this gracious.
• 27:53
  He just happened to be, you know what I mean?
• 27:55
  Like, if he had just popped off
• 27:57
  and said everything that he was thinking,
• 27:59
  if he had been a fucking asshole, I would have blamed him, you know?
• 28:02
  But it was a really well-executed response,
• 28:05
  and we are dealing with, you know,
• 28:09
  very much having to try to separate
• 28:11
  a people from their leaders.
• 28:15
  Is the average person struggling with that in this climate?
• 28:19
  I would say the average intelligent person
• 28:21
  is struggling with that in this climate, yes.
• 28:24
  I don't... What do you mean?
• 28:26
  I don't think as many people are struggling with it
• 28:28
  as they should be.
• 28:30
  That's my point. They can't do it.
• 28:32
  They're not separating.
• 28:34
  Oh, okay. I'm sorry. Then I misunderstood what you said.
• 28:36
  The leader... Like, separating leadership from the people.
• 28:39
  Oh, yeah. Yes.
• 28:41
  The idiots can't do it, right?
• 28:43
  It takes a lot of emotional intelligence
• 28:45
  to look at a group of people who are being represented by,
• 28:47
  I don't know, say, Trump,
• 28:49
  and not hold soccer fans and, you know,
• 28:53
  Flo Balagoon accountable for what Trump did.
• 28:58
  And it's just, you know,
• 29:01
  on top of what Mbappe was dealing with,
• 29:03
  there was a lot of people saying that Flo
• 29:05
  should be sitting out of the game because of Trump.
• 29:07
  It's an embarrassment. This is a joke.
• 29:10
  That's, like...
• 29:12
  We are wading into territory
• 29:14
  constantly with these guys
• 29:16
  that just seems to be, like, you know...
• 29:19
  I mean, listen.
• 29:21
  Like, when it comes down to the Balagoon situation,
• 29:23
  I can't stress enough how annoying this was.
• 29:25
  And I hate that Balagoon had to deal with this at all
• 29:27
  because this is why the whole...
• 29:30
  This whole fucking Trump... I mean, the Trump thing...
• 29:32
  Let's just go ahead and get into it
• 29:34
  because it's so fucking batshit.
• 29:36
  I mean, the amount of blatant and open corruption,
• 29:38
  whether or not he actually had to do with it or not,
• 29:40
  I'm willing to bet he didn't have much to do with it.
• 29:42
  But the fact that he's going on national television,
• 29:44
  international television, and saying that he is
• 29:46
  and having other senators come on the podium
• 29:48
  to say, thank you, Mr. Trump,
• 29:50
  for getting that red carpet,
• 29:52
  while FIFA's out putting out a statement,
• 29:54
  which, by the way, Trump's statement
• 29:56
  is a direct violation of two bylaws,
• 29:58
  massive bylaws, to the FIFA World Cup,
• 30:00
  which is now opening up a massive...
• 30:02
  Yeah, because then Gianni Infantino had to come out
• 30:04
  and be like, oh, dude, I hear from people's, like,
• 30:06
  that's all the goddamn time.
• 30:08
  Yeah, so he has to come out and do this, and by the way...
• 30:10
  And make no mistake, U.S. losing yesterday
• 30:12
  all of a sudden might have been
• 30:14
  the best possible thing for business for FIFA
• 30:16
  because now this whole fucking thing kind of goes away
• 30:18
  at the moment. Thank fucking God for them
• 30:20
  because, trust me, I know,
• 30:22
  I know that president is well aware
• 30:24
  about the indictments that happened to his predecessors.
• 30:26
  So, yeah, I think he's always worried
• 30:28
  about this type of shit and how this actually
• 30:30
  currently looks. Looks fucking bad.
• 30:32
  That being said,
• 30:34
  the vibe around this USA team
• 30:36
  going into this weekend
• 30:38
  was still staggeringly
• 30:40
  high and through the roof
• 30:42
  even with the red card of Bellingham
• 30:44
  that a lot of us didn't agree with, but then again,
• 30:46
  we do understand the rules
• 30:48
  and we were going to get passed and we were going to be fine,
• 30:50
  but the way this was done and how it was done
• 30:52
  within 24 hours of basically the match
• 30:54
  looked fucking terrible.
• 30:56
  And then immediately denying
• 30:58
  any type of appeal from Belgium
• 31:00
  looked fucking terrible.
• 31:02
  There is no appeal process.
• 31:04
  I know, there's no appeal process.
• 31:06
  It wasn't like they were like,
• 31:08
  oh, no, we usually allow it. There isn't.
• 31:10
  And FIFA's, by the way,
• 31:12
  reasoning for suspending
• 31:14
  Bellingham's fucking suspension for a year
• 31:16
  had no explanation
• 31:18
  to it other than we're suspending
• 31:20
  it for a year.
• 31:22
  So that's the other thing, too.
• 31:24
  When they did it for Ronaldo heading into the tournament,
• 31:26
  he was supposed to miss at least a game,
• 31:28
  potentially two of the first games,
• 31:30
  but they also had his red card
• 31:32
  suspension suspended
• 31:34
  or deferred.
• 31:36
  He was suspended three games.
• 31:38
  They deferred two of them.
• 31:40
  That happened a week after
• 31:42
  Cristiano Ronaldo came to the United States for the first time
• 31:44
  in 12 years, met with Trump, and a week later
• 31:46
  he has this red card deferred.
• 31:48
  So, again, there's no
• 31:50
  real explanation for these things.
• 31:52
  FIFA is so
• 31:54
  corrupt and
• 31:56
  there really is such a lack of
• 31:58
  transparency around these processes.
• 32:00
  You know,
• 32:02
  the red card itself was so
• 32:04
  unprecedented.
• 32:06
  Goal scorers getting a red card, that
• 32:08
  hadn't happened since 2006 when
• 32:10
  Zinedine Zidane head-butted a dude
• 32:12
  in the chest, very clearly a red card.
• 32:14
  It was an
• 32:16
  unprecedented red card, and then it was an unprecedented
• 32:18
  reversal, and what
• 32:20
  ended up happening was that a bunch
• 32:22
  of people felt like
• 32:24
  that was Balagoon's fault.
• 32:26
  First of all, Balagoon just deciding
• 32:28
  to sit out of a World Cup game doesn't come without
• 32:30
  consequences. You can't actually do it.
• 32:32
  There's actually a bunch of shit that could have happened
• 32:34
  to him. Nobody understands.
• 32:36
  I was seeing hundreds
• 32:38
  of comments from people saying, do I watch soccer?
• 32:40
  No. Am I familiar with the
• 32:42
  World Cup? No.
• 32:44
  Paragraph on what Flo
• 32:46
  Balagoon and the USMNT
• 32:48
  should do. Because as soon as
• 32:50
  Trump involved himself, everybody thought, well, this is a
• 32:52
  politics story now, so I get to weigh in.
• 32:54
  I get to weigh in on this player.
• 32:56
  The future of his whole fucking
• 32:58
  career, this 23-year-old,
• 33:00
  I get to weigh in irresponsibly
• 33:02
  because it's Trump, and we get to talk
• 33:04
  about whatever fucking Trump does.
• 33:06
  What a fucking nightmare.
• 33:08
  It was a nightmare, and the person
• 33:10
  suffering the most from all of this
• 33:12
  was a dude who did nothing.
• 33:14
  Nothing. Nothing wrong at all, and that's
• 33:16
  the worst part, and that's the other thing I want to point out.
• 33:18
  I'm talking about the vibes about this USA team.
• 33:20
  They were phenomenal. I loved this team.
• 33:22
  Everyone loved this team.
• 33:24
  I still love this team because here's the thing.
• 33:26
  By the way, Flo played pretty good.
• 33:28
  Here's the thing.
• 33:30
  Were they the recipients and benefactors?
• 33:32
  Well, despite the ending of how
• 33:34
  the game actually went,
• 33:36
  I don't look at the team USA at all for being
• 33:38
  corrupt. I don't look at Pelican being corrupt at all.
• 33:40
  Obviously. Were they the beneficiaries
• 33:42
  of a corrupt thing?
• 33:44
  Yeah. By the way, welcome to
• 33:46
  international soccer. Everybody's like,
• 33:48
  this is unprecedented. It's not.
• 33:50
  It's simply
• 33:52
  not. It's fucking ugly.
• 33:54
  It definitely is, but I can't...
• 33:56
  What normally, and someone pointed this out, which I loved,
• 33:58
  is like, no, this shit happens all the time.
• 34:00
  Just normally, people's presidents aren't stupid
• 34:02
  enough to fucking tweet about it.
• 34:04
  Yes, and I got to also say this.
• 34:06
  Those of you
• 34:08
  that weirdly were taking
• 34:10
  victory laps over this,
• 34:12
  the fact that this became such political theater
• 34:14
  and fucking nonsense made me so
• 34:16
  fucking sick and so fucking embarrassed.
• 34:18
  It was so disingenuous.
• 34:20
  Because last week, the same motherfucker
• 34:22
  tried to get birthright citizenship
• 34:24
  fucking removed from the country
• 34:26
  of which Pelican is only a member
• 34:28
  of the team due to birthright
• 34:30
  fucking citizenship.
• 34:32
  What the fuck is this?
• 34:34
  Fuck all of you.
• 34:36
  Fuck all of you. This is
• 34:38
  fucking nonsense. He's like the poster child
• 34:40
  for birthright citizenship. He absolutely is.
• 34:42
  In the best way, by the way.
• 34:44
  Those of you that have used this,
• 34:46
  fuck you. Fuck you.
• 34:48
  Nothing else to say.
• 34:50
  You hypocritical fucks.
• 34:52
  Oh, I hate this.
• 34:54
  The only person I'm more mad at
• 34:56
  right now than all you hypocritical fucks
• 34:58
  is his teammate, who we're going to get to
• 35:00
  in a little bit. Before we move on
• 35:02
  from the extreme racism constantly
• 35:04
  in this goddamn World Cup,
• 35:06
  I show Speed, who is
• 35:08
  everywhere, and perhaps
• 35:10
  annoyingly so, but actually
• 35:12
  he's a pretty good kid, man.
• 35:14
  He really is a good kid.
• 35:16
  He's an iPad
• 35:18
  kid who grew up to be a streamer,
• 35:20
  but
• 35:22
  does a lot. He's making a killing.
• 35:24
  He does a lot. He's a thoughtful
• 35:26
  person. I don't know much about him.
• 35:28
  He's a kid.
• 35:30
  He's grown up basically
• 35:32
  on camera in front of these people.
• 35:34
  Got a gajillion followers
• 35:36
  and live stream viewers all the time.
• 35:38
  By all
• 35:40
  accounts, he's a good enough kid.
• 35:42
  I've seen interactions with him between people.
• 35:44
  He's respectful. He's kind.
• 35:46
  He's thoughtful.
• 35:48
  He was streaming.
• 35:50
  He has over 56 million
• 35:52
  YouTube subscribers. This man's
• 35:54
  one of the more famous people in an entire generation
• 35:56
  of Americans.
• 35:58
  He was
• 36:00
  live streaming from the game at Hard Rock Stadium
• 36:02
  while Cape Verde was
• 36:04
  playing
• 36:06
  Argentina.
• 36:08
  A fan near him
• 36:10
  was yelling
• 36:12
  a racial slur
• 36:14
  at him and told him to go home.
• 36:16
  A fan was also heard telling the streamer
• 36:18
  to go cry
• 36:20
  at the zoo.
• 36:22
  These were Argentinian fans
• 36:24
  who are
• 36:26
  the country itself and their fans
• 36:28
  notoriously wildly racist.
• 36:30
  They're certainly not doing anything
• 36:32
  to assuage us of that notion.
• 36:34
  He was
• 36:36
  like, what's your problem?
• 36:38
  He was doing nothing,
• 36:40
  saying nothing to them. There was no reason
• 36:42
  for this to be happening. There's never any reason
• 36:44
  to have a racial slur yelled at you, but just
• 36:46
  to set the stage for what was going on.
• 36:48
  The players
• 36:50
  are dealing with racism
• 36:52
  from fans, from crowd people,
• 36:54
  from senators.
• 36:56
  The crowd and the fans are dealing
• 36:58
  with racism from other people
• 37:00
  in the crowd and other fans.
• 37:02
  The people who've
• 37:04
  done absolutely nothing are dealing with racism
• 37:06
  for playing in games.
• 37:08
  This is
• 37:10
  the kind of thing where sometimes
• 37:12
  I genuinely feel like I'm losing my mind
• 37:14
  because
• 37:16
  no matter how much
• 37:18
  something will bring us together,
• 37:20
  there's
• 37:22
  something just so
• 37:24
  fucking pervasive about anti-blackness
• 37:26
  specifically.
• 37:28
  All of these incidents we've talked about,
• 37:30
  all of them have one thing
• 37:32
  in common. French,
• 37:34
  American,
• 37:36
  Cape Verdean,
• 37:38
  doesn't matter what we're talking about.
• 37:40
  It's always
• 37:42
  anti-blackness.
• 37:44
  With the increase
• 37:46
  of the
• 37:48
  presence of African
• 37:50
  teams in this tournament and moving
• 37:52
  forward with the
• 37:54
  sort of influx
• 37:56
  of interest in African
• 37:58
  soccer and football, we're going to see more of it.
• 38:00
  I've
• 38:02
  actually talked about it on this show before.
• 38:04
  Vinny, Vinicius Jr.
• 38:06
  on Brazil.
• 38:08
  Very famous situation.
• 38:10
  Which has led to things in the World Cup.
• 38:12
  You can't cover your mouth on the pitch
• 38:14
  because of something that happened to him.
• 38:16
  A couple of people have already been red-carded
• 38:18
  for it.
• 38:20
  You really can't help yourself.
• 38:22
  You know the fucking rules. Fucking figure it out.
• 38:24
  You really can't stop yourself from being racist.
• 38:26
  Fucking wild.
• 38:28
  Racism is everywhere,
• 38:30
  but the anti-blackness
• 38:32
  specifically is just
• 38:34
  so pervasive internationally.
• 38:36
  America, we've got our
• 38:38
  fucking problems.
• 38:40
  I think that
• 38:42
  a lot of
• 38:44
  countries get a
• 38:46
  real kick out of how much
• 38:48
  we call out our own racism.
• 38:50
  Because we call it out so much,
• 38:52
  because we talk about it so much, because our
• 38:54
  black population, because black Americans
• 38:56
  are so outspoken and such good
• 38:58
  advocates for themselves.
• 39:00
  The rest of the world
• 39:02
  believes that they don't have the same type of racism.
• 39:04
  No. No.
• 39:06
  You absolutely do.
• 39:08
  It might come from different places, and maybe you didn't have
• 39:10
  chattel slavery, or maybe you did because it certainly was in other
• 39:12
  places. But regardless,
• 39:14
  no. Now, if you'd like to
• 39:16
  take a page out of black Americans' books
• 39:18
  and learn how to stand up for
• 39:20
  yourselves, they've got the fucking playbook.
• 39:22
  But don't tell me that
• 39:24
  the rest of the world isn't dealing with this, because your people
• 39:26
  came over here and acted fucking crazy.
• 39:28
  By the way, I'm going to
• 39:30
  leave this to you right now. Should we
• 39:32
  stay on the course of racism with
• 39:34
  our next story, or should we take a break
• 39:36
  and talk about LeBron James? Let's take a break
• 39:38
  and talk about LeBron James. Let's take a break and talk about
• 39:40
  LeBron James. I would love to.
• 39:42
  We're going to break, talk about LeBron
• 39:44
  James, go back to a
• 39:46
  different form of racism in a different sport.
• 39:48
  We didn't have enough of that already.
• 39:50
  Back to American racism. Good old
• 39:52
  American past-time racism. The old-fashioned
• 39:54
  racism. Yeah. LeBron's
• 39:56
  next team predictions
• 39:58
  and their current odds are
• 40:00
  something I've been kind of watching, kind of
• 40:02
  tracking. Now, I don't bet.
• 40:04
  I don't use these apps. I just kind of Google
• 40:06
  it, see what's what. I will
• 40:08
  say, like, prediction market
• 40:10
  apps are actually getting
• 40:12
  frighteningly close to
• 40:14
  predicting things. Okay, so that's, yeah.
• 40:16
  I haven't even necessarily been paying attention to how
• 40:18
  accurate they are. It's fascinating.
• 40:20
  So prediction markets are doing a lot better than
• 40:22
  your average sports book. Yes, because
• 40:24
  it's basically taking up to
• 40:26
  the moment things. So it's honestly where the money goes
• 40:28
  and where the money changes and people shifting
• 40:30
  opinions. So it actually gives you
• 40:32
  a to-the-point, actually weirdly
• 40:34
  accurate view on things that are
• 40:36
  happening. Like, for instance, elections.
• 40:38
  I knew Spencer Pratt was
• 40:40
  dead on arrival.
• 40:42
  Oh, really? About a week before it happened.
• 40:44
  Oh, shit. Why didn't you tell me? I was stressed out.
• 40:46
  I did tell you. You did? I think you were too stressed
• 40:48
  I couldn't believe it.
• 40:50
  I was like, I don't have enough evidence for this.
• 40:52
  Yeah, yeah, no. I was going off
• 40:54
  those numbers and those numbers, his numbers were drastically
• 40:56
  getting lower. People were buying, trying to buy
• 40:58
  out of that stock. Okay, okay.
• 41:00
  And that made me go, okay, people are trying to dump
• 41:02
  this stock right now. Do you think that's just like a lot of insider trading there?
• 41:04
  Because it's so unregulated.
• 41:06
  For lack of a better phrase, yes. Yeah, yeah.
• 41:08
  It's prediction markets.
• 41:10
  Come on. Yeah, it's just a lot of,
• 41:12
  it's not regulated. So right now,
• 41:14
  essentially,
• 41:16
  like, if you're saying that this is correct,
• 41:18
  the latest consensus probabilities from prediction
• 41:20
  markets like Cal Sheehan and traditional sportsbooks
• 41:22
  show that Cleveland
• 41:24
  is separating itself from the pack in terms of
• 41:26
  the likelihood that LeBron James will land.
• 41:28
  Today is the reason why I changed my mind.
• 41:30
  I thought literally, I thought 100%
• 41:32
  this was going to be Golden State.
• 41:34
  I now officially don't think that anymore.
• 41:36
  I think he's going back to Cleveland. Because of Donovan Mitchell.
• 41:38
  The Donovan Mitchell deal, the fact that Harden hasn't
• 41:40
  gotten done yet, and that to me
• 41:42
  gave me bells and whistles.
• 41:44
  Not that Harden's going elsewhere. They're trying to figure out the money
• 41:46
  to make everything kind of work. That's what I think.
• 41:48
  Do you think Harden wants to play with Harden?
• 41:50
  I wouldn't be shocked. I would.
• 41:52
  I'm a little confused on how it'll work.
• 41:54
  How on the ball he is and everything.
• 41:56
  He's also kind of like, he's
• 41:58
  a really terrible playoff.
• 42:00
  Like, LeBron has got to be looking to try
• 42:02
  to do something with Cleveland before he retires.
• 42:04
  That's what I'm thinking. But I don't know. Maybe LeBron
• 42:06
  thinks he could be the one that does it. I don't know.
• 42:08
  He's the one, imagine he's the one who
• 42:10
  takes James Harden.
• 42:12
  That's his greatest accomplishment.
• 42:14
  People would genuinely, I think,
• 42:16
  if he won a fifth ring with
• 42:18
  James Harden, it dragged him.
• 42:20
  It's over. The go
• 42:22
  conversation is beyond over.
• 42:24
  It's outrageous.
• 42:26
  I don't know, man. That Donovan
• 42:28
  Mitchell signing today and knowing
• 42:30
  that Harden hasn't happened just made me go,
• 42:32
  listen how quickly the Lakers had about
• 42:34
  faced and got all these deals done. Look at all
• 42:36
  the things that all these teams
• 42:38
  have done in a short amount of time. Yet
• 42:40
  Cleveland is really taking their time.
• 42:42
  Somebody knows something. There's a
• 42:44
  reason why Cleveland's taking their time. And I
• 42:46
  think he's going to Cleveland. So
• 42:48
  they have it at 57 to 58%.
• 42:50
  Which is high, by the way. Which is fucking crazy high.
• 42:52
  Way higher than I thought.
• 42:54
  The traditional sports book has
• 42:56
  it at minus 122.
• 42:58
  They had
• 43:00
  the next after that is the Miami
• 43:02
  Heat at 17 to 19%.
• 43:04
  I think the Miami Heat would be
• 43:06
  so fun. I think him returning to the Heat
• 43:08
  just because of the Giannis Bam thing.
• 43:10
  That would be fun as fuck.
• 43:12
  That's a way more fun team than the choke
• 43:14
  artists known as Donovan Mitchell and James Harden.
• 43:16
  I also think Golden State would still be kind of
• 43:18
  interesting. I know you don't
• 43:20
  but I wouldn't hate it.
• 43:22
  Again, I don't know if people
• 43:24
  just to reiterate, I want to
• 43:26
  preserve my memory
• 43:28
  of Steph and LeBron as the
• 43:30
  2004 Paris Olympics. It was perfect.
• 43:32
  It was the perfect
• 43:34
  couple of weeks. The two of them
• 43:36
  with Kevin Durant was that
• 43:38
  big three. The old dudes
• 43:40
  coming in and just balling.
• 43:42
  The moments that they had. It was
• 43:44
  perfect. Let that be the thing
• 43:46
  that lives in our memory. That's
• 43:48
  why. It's less about would
• 43:50
  they be cool. Of course they'd be fucking cool.
• 43:52
  I have my perfect moment.
• 43:54
  If you have the perfect breakup.
• 43:56
  If you say goodbye
• 43:58
  and you're like, we had a great relationship.
• 44:00
  What the fuck is a perfect breakup?
• 44:02
  I don't think I've ever had a good breakup
• 44:04
  in my life. All my breakups are terrible
• 44:06
  and I think I don't talk to any of them. This is the point.
• 44:08
  It's almost impossible. It's almost
• 44:10
  impossible to end something perfectly.
• 44:12
  To have the perfect run.
• 44:14
  You have a great relationship. You're going in separate
• 44:16
  directions. You still love and respect each
• 44:18
  other so much. You'll probably stay in touch but it's
• 44:20
  never going to happen again and you have a beautiful
• 44:22
  kiss outside the
• 44:24
  airport and then you never see each other again.
• 44:26
  Wonderful. You don't ever want to see that person.
• 44:28
  You don't want to see it again. You don't want
• 44:30
  to ever meet up with them again. You want to have that
• 44:32
  preserved moment. That's the perfect thing.
• 44:34
  You rarely get those things in life. We had
• 44:36
  that with LeBron and stuff.
• 44:38
  I think he's going
• 44:40
  to Cleveland so I'm good.
• 44:42
  I just want it
• 44:44
  on the record that I would prefer
• 44:46
  Miami. Cleveland of course
• 44:48
  is the better story
• 44:50
  but is it the best better story
• 44:52
  if you have to go drag those
• 44:54
  two playoff chokers?
• 44:56
  It's not the better story.
• 44:58
  I'm not going to lie to you.
• 45:00
  I think there's a lot of fun stories here. I would love
• 45:02
  to see him in Minnesota. I don't think
• 45:04
  it's going to happen. You know that's my fucking
• 45:06
  dream. I don't think it's going to happen.
• 45:08
  I put that at the lowest of the odds.
• 45:10
  LeBron with his two children. Ant and
• 45:12
  LaMelo.
• 45:14
  I also wouldn't mind seeing them in Philly
• 45:16
  right now because Philly just kind of...
• 45:18
  They're up to 5-7%.
• 45:20
  They weren't even on anyone's radar until the
• 45:22
  Jalen Brown time. By the way, is Philly all of a
• 45:24
  sudden the best team in the East?
• 45:26
  Doesn't it always
• 45:28
  depend on Embiid? I know but Jalen Brown's
• 45:30
  there. He fucking carried the Celtics last
• 45:32
  year and now you're putting him with Terry Smacksie.
• 45:34
  DJ Edgecombe and yeah.
• 45:36
  Is Philly legitimately now the best team in the East?
• 45:38
  It's going to depend on how they all play together
• 45:40
  but absolutely
• 45:42
  there's a chance. I
• 45:44
  imagine that the Knicks are just going to have...
• 45:46
  They've already lost a couple of pieces.
• 45:48
  I think they're going to take a step back.
• 45:50
  Not a huge step back but
• 45:52
  a mild one. I think they'll still
• 45:54
  finish third in the East and we'll see what happens.
• 45:56
  They'll finish third in the East
• 45:58
  but I'm interested to see what they can do in the playoffs.
• 46:00
  I think the Celtics are going to be worse than the Sixers at this point.
• 46:02
  Man, I'm sorry this is happening.
• 46:04
  Well, you know, I've been all over the internet
• 46:06
  griping about it. I'm tired now.
• 46:08
  Well, let's get back to the funness
• 46:10
  of the racism
• 46:12
  in sports.
• 46:14
  Like coughing and yawning. I swear guys, I'm into this.
• 46:16
  Alright, alright. Let's get to more good
• 46:18
  old-fashioned American racism.
• 46:20
  I want to talk to you about this because I've
• 46:22
  been waiting to talk to you about this.
• 46:24
  You and I have not been able to. We haven't had a show in a minute.
• 46:28
  For those who don't
• 46:30
  haven't been paying attention,
• 46:32
  Cade Cavalli,
• 46:34
  pitcher for the Nationals,
• 46:36
  had an incident with
• 46:38
  Red Sox's Wilson Contreras.
• 46:40
  By the way, Wilson Contreras has a lot
• 46:42
  of incidents.
• 46:44
  This one wasn't his fault.
• 46:46
  No, he is
• 46:48
  an antagonizer.
• 46:50
  He didn't do this though.
• 46:52
  He is a person who gets people riled up.
• 46:56
  Our first spill
• 46:58
  in the history of the podcast.
• 47:00
  There's only a matter of time. Continue.
• 47:02
  He gets people riled up. We know this about him.
• 47:04
  He's always been somebody
• 47:06
  who kind of gets
• 47:08
  under people's skin on purpose. However,
• 47:10
  in this situation,
• 47:12
  it was not his fault.
• 47:16
  If you don't know about it,
• 47:18
  I don't know. Do I say what he said?
• 47:22
  Yeah, I think.
• 47:24
  Listen, you can hear it very clearly
• 47:26
  on the video. I'll say it because I'm
• 47:28
  not even comfortable with it either, but here's what he
• 47:30
  said. It was strike three
• 47:32
  and he immediately shouted out to him.
• 47:34
  I mean, looked him dead in the face.
• 47:36
  Sit down, boy.
• 47:38
  This is a white Oklahoma
• 47:40
  pitcher. I don't think I need to
• 47:42
  fucking tell any of you
• 47:44
  the outrageous connotation of
• 47:46
  what he said before that campus from and not to mention
• 47:48
  how he said it and how quickly
• 47:50
  he said it as if he had this more
• 47:52
  than planned that he was going to say
• 47:54
  this. And
• 47:56
  I just don't understand how people
• 47:58
  can say something that has outrageous
• 48:00
  racist, racial tones and
• 48:02
  connotations and an outrageous
• 48:04
  amount of, I don't know, hundreds of years of history
• 48:06
  and then just claim
• 48:08
  to be ignorant that you have no idea
• 48:10
  what this is. He claimed that he had no idea
• 48:12
  that if he had no, you don't need to be
• 48:14
  lying sack of shit. You could say
• 48:16
  you truly didn't mean it that way.
• 48:18
  And I know there's nothing you could
• 48:20
  say that I can almost
• 48:22
  hear that even though I don't fucking buy it. A second.
• 48:24
  There's nothing but telling me
• 48:26
  that you don't know this.
• 48:28
  You're from fucking Oklahoma. Yes, you
• 48:30
  fucking do fucking knock
• 48:32
  that shit off. Sometimes I really wish
• 48:34
  to stop it like I really
• 48:36
  do the only way that it wouldn't have
• 48:38
  the real honest answer
• 48:40
  is very likely. It's just not
• 48:42
  going to stop. It's coming for me.
• 48:44
  Could you?
• 48:46
  Well, listen, I mean,
• 48:48
  I can't believe this hasn't happened.
• 48:50
  I'm actually shocked. Yeah.
• 48:52
  I guess the thing is
• 48:54
  like the only thing you can say at that moment is
• 48:56
  like I'm realizing that there's a
• 48:58
  lot of like racist
• 49:00
  verbiage that I grew up around
• 49:02
  that is still in my like it's still
• 49:04
  in my lexicon and I still have a lot
• 49:06
  of unpacking to do. That's the only
• 49:08
  answer that needs like otherwise
• 49:10
  you're just lying. You're a white
• 49:12
  good old boy from Oklahoma
• 49:14
  playing baseball, which is
• 49:16
  extremely racist to begin with.
• 49:18
  And that phrase is just
• 49:20
  is what it is. Hold on. Let's put a quick pause.
• 49:22
  Mocha's getting on camera.
• 49:24
  Hey Mocha
• 49:26
  say hi to the people.
• 49:28
  You're almost on camera.
• 49:30
  There he is. There's our handsome
• 49:32
  Mocha. I can't believe you guys just saw
• 49:34
  Mocha because Cody spilled his wine.
• 49:36
  I mean, I wish there was a better reason to put him on.
• 49:38
  We're making him do chores.
• 49:40
  He is earning his money today.
• 49:42
  Poor Mocha. This is what happens
• 49:44
  when we take a week and a half off.
• 49:46
  Yeah, we all get kind of out of
• 49:48
  sync a little bit. Thank you Mocha. You're the best.
• 49:50
  I'll clean the rest later, man. I appreciate
• 49:52
  your help. By the way, Mocha's
• 49:54
  been on the ones and twos on this show from the
• 49:56
  very get go, so I can't stress how much we love Mocha.
• 49:58
  It's very important that we have Mocha here.
• 50:00
  Like it's really, we tried to do it
• 50:02
  one time without him and it was so
• 50:04
  fucking annoying. It was a struggle bus.
• 50:06
  I'm like, I really wish Mocha was here.
• 50:08
  But that being said,
• 50:10
  this was a racist thing. It was a white pitcher
• 50:12
  saying a racist thing. It is what it is.
• 50:14
  Can I tell you something shocking?
• 50:16
  I did not see
• 50:18
  a ton.
• 50:20
  There was obviously plenty of racism.
• 50:22
  Sure, of course.
• 50:24
  You might be surprised. It's
• 50:26
  less than you think. I saw
• 50:28
  less than you think. Now I saw
• 50:30
  an outrageous amount of ignorance.
• 50:32
  Outrageous. I would say
• 50:34
  of the things that I saw
• 50:36
  mostly, I would say
• 50:38
  of the things that people were racist
• 50:40
  against, I would say
• 50:42
  not kidding, homophobia
• 50:44
  was at the top of the list.
• 50:46
  They were racist against homophobia?
• 50:48
  No, they were incredibly homophobic. I would say they'd start
• 50:50
  there. Then I'd say
• 50:52
  antisemitic was there and
• 50:54
  racism was right about the same
• 50:56
  of not just above antisemitism.
• 50:58
  Well, I will
• 51:00
  say this as thoughtfully as I can.
• 51:02
  I think that there are times
• 51:04
  where you're not noticing racist
• 51:06
  microaggressions that
• 51:08
  aren't aimed at you because you're not trained
• 51:10
  to see them. There's probably
• 51:12
  a lot more racism going on than you're necessarily
• 51:14
  seeing. That being said, I was a little more
• 51:16
  aware because I dealt with an outrageous amount
• 51:18
  of antisemitism.
• 51:20
  That's what I'm saying. You probably
• 51:22
  were noticing that stuff because you know
• 51:24
  what to look for more than you would.
• 51:26
  There are so many things that I've learned.
• 51:28
  The more I'm in community with
• 51:30
  Black people, my Black friends, Black
• 51:32
  colleagues, Black co-workers, I have been like,
• 51:34
  oh, fuck.
• 51:36
  You don't know it unless you're spending a lot of time
• 51:38
  with people having dialogues about this. I think that
• 51:40
  there's a lot of stuff going on that we don't
• 51:42
  even notice until we notice it. Then we realize
• 51:44
  it's happening all around us.
• 51:46
  That could be a part of it as well. You are
• 51:48
  about as well-meaning
• 51:50
  and
• 51:52
  caring about these and open-minded
• 51:54
  as you could possibly be.
• 51:56
  You and I have blind
• 51:58
  spots that we simply cannot overcome
• 52:00
  in a lot of these spaces. A part of this honestly
• 52:02
  might also be this.
• 52:04
  I hate to say it this way, but there weren't
• 52:06
  an outrageous amount of African-Americans
• 52:08
  playing with me during my time.
• 52:10
  The racism I saw was mostly towards
• 52:12
  the Latin players.
• 52:14
  A lot of the Black players
• 52:16
  are Dominican-American
• 52:18
  from South America. Make no mistake,
• 52:20
  they deal with a lot of it.
• 52:22
  A lot of it. 100%. They do have a different
• 52:24
  relationship to not only discussing it
• 52:26
  but even
• 52:28
  sometimes recognizing it. Those
• 52:30
  are nuances among the diaspora
• 52:32
  that are not for us to necessarily
• 52:34
  break down, but there absolutely is
• 52:36
  a dynamic that exists.
• 52:38
  My question for you
• 52:40
  is,
• 52:42
  they reduced Cade Cavalli's
• 52:44
  suspension for this whole incident to
• 52:46
  five games. Wilson Contreras
• 52:48
  currently is still serving his seven-game suspension.
• 52:50
  It's under appeal.
• 52:52
  We'll see. I guess we can't say what's going
• 52:54
  to happen. Well, his is still
• 52:56
  seven because he did throw a helmet at him.
• 53:00
  So, first of all, funny thing about
• 53:02
  that, there was a
• 53:04
  headline on ESPN after—did you see this?
• 53:06
  I did not. After this whole incident
• 53:08
  where they were like,
• 53:10
  this
• 53:12
  headline essentially read,
• 53:14
  like, Scrum Breaks Out
• 53:16
  After Wilson Contreras Throws
• 53:18
  Helmet at Cade Cavalli.
• 53:20
  One more time? That's what
• 53:22
  it said? Yes. On what network?
• 53:24
  ESPN. Boy, I have—for what
• 53:26
  little respect I have for that network,
• 53:28
  it's now officially all gone.
• 53:30
  I had no respect for them already,
• 53:32
  but Jesus Christ. It was like full-on
• 53:34
  lies. Jesus Christ. Like a full-on lie.
• 53:36
  That is such a blatant lie
• 53:38
  I don't know what to do with myself. Did he throw
• 53:40
  a helmet? Yes. Not
• 53:42
  the headline. Not the headline, and definitely
• 53:44
  wasn't how the scrum broke out. He was
• 53:46
  in a scrum by the time the helmet was thrown
• 53:48
  because Cavalli had been racist.
• 53:50
  They were both suspended.
• 53:52
  I'm not a big fan of suspending
• 53:54
  somebody for reacting to racism.
• 53:56
  Yes, there is a rule that you
• 53:58
  don't throw your helmet at somebody. There's also a rule
• 54:00
  against being racist, right?
• 54:02
  You also can't be racist.
• 54:04
  We're sort of in a pickle
• 54:06
  there where you get to decide.
• 54:08
  This is
• 54:10
  very much feeling like
• 54:12
  Miles Garrett swinging his helmet
• 54:14
  at—who was it? Mason Rudolph?
• 54:16
  Yeah, but here's the difference.
• 54:18
  It was way more dangerous. It was more dangerous,
• 54:20
  but here's also the difference on that.
• 54:22
  We didn't have very
• 54:24
  obvious audio
• 54:26
  sound of what Mason Rudolph
• 54:28
  did or did not say. We only had to go off of believing
• 54:30
  that, which believe all Miles
• 54:32
  Garrett. Yes, I believe Miles Garrett.
• 54:34
  That being said, we didn't have
• 54:36
  the outrageously clear
• 54:38
  as a goddamn bell sound
• 54:40
  that Cade Cavalli was so
• 54:42
  kind to give us. It sounded like it came
• 54:44
  out of a
• 54:46
  movie, like a movie
• 54:48
  about a racist Southerner. This
• 54:50
  honestly sounded like a scene
• 54:52
  from the movie Fucking 42.
• 54:54
  This was a scene—and I
• 54:56
  do mean this—the first 45
• 54:58
  minutes of 42.
• 55:00
  So I can't stress this enough.
• 55:02
  Can't believe the suspension was
• 55:04
  reduced. I'm
• 55:06
  baffled, baffled that
• 55:08
  his thing is, I had no idea. Just for that
• 55:10
  sense alone, I would have doubled your fucking
• 55:12
  dumbass suspension. You are a dumb fuck
• 55:14
  if you didn't know. You're either this, a racist
• 55:16
  asshole, or the dumbest fuck I've ever
• 55:18
  seen in my life. Either way, you should be suspended
• 55:20
  more games. It is what
• 55:22
  it is, and it drives me nuts. I think that
• 55:24
  we should all get to vote, and if
• 55:26
  America decides that what you said was racist,
• 55:30
  he gets to throw a helmet at you.
• 55:32
  Point my cringe
• 55:34
  from it. I'm sorry. I'm so
• 55:36
  fucking over these dudes. I'm so
• 55:38
  over it. I just—
• 55:40
  well, technically you can't throw
• 55:42
  a helmet at someone. I mean, it is assault.
• 55:44
  Yeah, and so is
• 55:46
  hate speech. Like, neither of these things are
• 55:48
  legal things to do. I didn't say one
• 55:50
  was better or worse than the other.
• 55:52
  I know what's better. I know what's better
• 55:54
  too, but you—you can't throw
• 55:56
  a helmet at a guy. You can.
• 55:58
  I mean, you can, physically. Also, like, to your point,
• 56:00
  he's—like,
• 56:02
  the helmet was
• 56:04
  tossed at, like, in a—it's not like
• 56:06
  he point-blank ranged—Miles
• 56:08
  Garretted him. It's like, we're acting like he—
• 56:10
  You're not wrong. Like, he took a, like, shotgun
• 56:12
  to his head. No, no, no, no, I'm not saying
• 56:14
  that. You're not wrong. He tossed
• 56:16
  it into a crowd. Listen. He was more—
• 56:18
  more than anything, he was angrily throwing
• 56:20
  his helmet than he was even targeting
• 56:22
  it. Like, he was like,
• 56:24
  fuck this. Listen.
• 56:26
  The whole situation is fucked.
• 56:28
  Team instigating
• 56:30
  Wilson Contreras. I love—
• 56:32
  I love a petty bitch who gets
• 56:34
  under people's skin. I don't like when getting
• 56:36
  under people's skin results in
• 56:38
  racism, especially when they've—that's a one
• 56:40
  instance where they haven't done anything.
• 56:42
  You know, that was just bizarre.
• 56:44
  He swung through a pitch. He's walking back. Here's
• 56:46
  the thing. Turns out, what?
• 56:48
  Because even I was just like, what?
• 56:50
  Even the sit-down, honestly, like, in
• 56:52
  that moment, it was, like, wildly
• 56:54
  unsportsmanlike. There was no need
• 56:56
  for it. Like, this was not a—this
• 56:58
  was not a Bautista backflip.
• 57:00
  Like, everybody needs to fucking chill.
• 57:02
  Yeah, unreal.
• 57:04
  Anyways,
• 57:06
  don't say that to someone.
• 57:08
  So, Headlines was basically
• 57:10
  Racism Corner plus LeBron.
• 57:12
  Yeah. So, thank you, LeBron.
• 57:14
  Yeah.
• 57:16
  We have to go back
• 57:18
  in Media Corner. We must return
• 57:20
  to the United States
• 57:22
  and perhaps the
• 57:24
  most frustrating and
• 57:26
  maybe depressing
• 57:28
  conversation to have is the one
• 57:30
  happening in the media right now around Christian Pulisic
• 57:32
  and how he
• 57:34
  not only showed up in this tournament, but how he
• 57:36
  played in the most important game they've
• 57:38
  played in the last 12 years.
• 57:40
  I would say didn't show up in the tournament and
• 57:42
  barely played.
• 57:44
  Game one? Game one? Pulisic?
• 57:46
  For the first half, yes. Oh, man. I was
• 57:48
  pumped. He got hurt, right? He got hurt. But before he got hurt,
• 57:50
  man, I was like, finally.
• 57:52
  We got tournament Pulisic.
• 57:54
  This is the guy he was
• 57:56
  always meant to be.
• 57:58
  The backlash
• 58:00
  from fans, but
• 58:02
  specifically in the media, which I find fascinating
• 58:04
  because the USMNT
• 58:06
  has always been the ugly
• 58:08
  duckling, little
• 58:10
  stepchild to the USWNT.
• 58:12
  The women in this sport have dominated
• 58:14
  it. They have been the standard, the gold
• 58:16
  standard, quite literally,
• 58:18
  for World Cup golds,
• 58:20
  Olympic golds. They are
• 58:22
  the best women's team in the world.
• 58:24
  And what's amazing is the same people that celebrated
• 58:26
  our president returning the
• 58:28
  red card hates that team.
• 58:30
  Sure, of course, naturally. Fascinating, isn't it?
• 58:32
  But they're
• 58:34
  getting the royal
• 58:36
  treatment here. They're getting the mainstream
• 58:38
  media royal treatment.
• 58:40
  This is what happens when you're
• 58:42
  primetime and fuck up. Amen.
• 58:44
  We made it.
• 58:46
  We finally made it. Our soccer team made it.
• 58:50
  I want to start with Nick Wright ripping
• 58:52
  Christian Pulisic because I think this is
• 58:54
  an encapsulation.
• 58:56
  Both him and Sidney LaRue
• 58:58
  sort of have
• 59:00
  said what I have been thinking
• 59:02
  about this whole situation.
• 59:04
  He said, yeah, I mean,
• 59:06
  oh, sorry. I just want to go over what
• 59:08
  Christian, this is all he said after the game.
• 59:10
  I mean, I just twisted my ankle and just
• 59:12
  sprained my ankle. I mean, it's just frustrating to
• 59:14
  end like that, of course, but you know,
• 59:16
  now I have time to rest,
• 59:18
  so hopefully it'll be okay.
• 59:20
  Hey, guess what we don't give a fuck about,
• 59:22
  Pulisic? Your time
• 59:24
  to rest. Sidney LaRue reposted
• 59:26
  that and said, you've rested the entire
• 59:28
  tournament. Sidney LaRue, by the way,
• 59:30
  champion, very famous women's player.
• 59:32
  That was the extent of Pulisic's accounting
• 59:34
  for the exit that ended his tournament.
• 59:36
  Here's what Nick Wright said. It seems
• 59:38
  like it might be more pain tolerance than
• 59:40
  long-term injury concern and it's the World Cup
• 59:42
  and I would like for the guy who's
• 59:44
  supposed to change American soccer to be able to
• 59:46
  fight through it, but we got away with
• 59:48
  it in the Australia game. It was fine and he
• 59:50
  was rearing and ready to go. This one, there's
• 59:52
  no confusion about it. We saw what happened.
• 59:54
  We saw him suffer the injury. He kicked the guy,
• 59:56
  which I would put akin to, you know,
• 59:58
  in hazards of the job, being a garbage man
• 1:00:00
  and having stuff splash on you.
• 1:00:02
  It's unfortunate, but it probably happens
• 1:00:04
  more often than you'd like and for that to be
• 1:00:06
  as debilitating as it was to the point
• 1:00:08
  where he could not be involved in the
• 1:00:10
  play for the next four or five minutes, we
• 1:00:12
  allow a goal and he begs out of the biggest game
• 1:00:14
  of his life is unacceptable.
• 1:00:16
  And to add to that, before I move
• 1:00:18
  on to what Landon Donovan said,
• 1:00:20
  you have two choices
• 1:00:22
  in that moment after Landon Donovan goes down. By the way,
• 1:00:24
  his team had full possession in that moment
• 1:00:26
  and he would not get up, which means
• 1:00:28
  they could not make a play. They had
• 1:00:30
  full possession and an opportunity to make a
• 1:00:32
  potentially goal scoring
• 1:00:34
  moment and he laid there. And then
• 1:00:36
  when he did get back up, he limped
• 1:00:38
  around the field rather than taking himself off.
• 1:00:40
  He could have immediately been like, you got to get me off.
• 1:00:42
  We have to stay in this. As a leader,
• 1:00:44
  that's what he should have done. Instead, he limped around
• 1:00:46
  like a little fuck and did not come
• 1:00:48
  off the field. And then we
• 1:00:50
  gave up one of the worst goals I've ever
• 1:00:52
  seen scored in the history of soccer.
• 1:00:54
  Landon Donovan said, this is what it means
• 1:00:56
  to represent your country. And if you don't want to take
• 1:00:58
  this as a professional soccer player, as someone who gets the
• 1:01:00
  opportunity to wear that jersey and take it seriously and
• 1:01:02
  responsibly, then don't come in. He's tired.
• 1:01:04
  He's out there grinding, hurt himself in the
• 1:01:06
  process, and I can't help but think that our guys
• 1:01:08
  on vacation, not wanting to play in the
• 1:01:10
  Gold Cup. It's pissing me off.
• 1:01:12
  Listen, I watched
• 1:01:14
  it too. I think
• 1:01:16
  we can all agree now.
• 1:01:18
  It's against the guy. Polisic is
• 1:01:20
  not only not the guy. He's not the guy.
• 1:01:22
  But we've got... I wanted
• 1:01:24
  him to be the guy. We all wanted it.
• 1:01:26
  We wanted it more than reality
• 1:01:28
  actually was. All the best soccer players
• 1:01:30
  that have come out of this country, men
• 1:01:32
  and women, are looking at this guy
• 1:01:34
  like, yeah, no. We're out. Yeah, no.
• 1:01:36
  He's not the guy. And that,
• 1:01:38
  I think that's... It sucked. I think that's
• 1:01:40
  the most frustrating part for me is that...
• 1:01:42
  That quote is so fucking soft. I don't
• 1:01:44
  know what to do. Like, to actually
• 1:01:46
  say after that game, now I can get some rest
• 1:01:48
  is just... Who gives a fuck about your
• 1:01:50
  rest right now? The most outrageously
• 1:01:52
  tone deaf... Like, did you think we
• 1:01:54
  were going to feel bad for you? Man,
• 1:01:56
  come on, dude. You gotta
• 1:01:58
  read the room. You
• 1:02:00
  gotta... If
• 1:02:02
  only he just fell on the sword.
• 1:02:04
  Sprained my ankle.
• 1:02:06
  I had to get out of there. I should've gotten out of there
• 1:02:08
  faster. Just, goddammit.
• 1:02:10
  What is
• 1:02:12
  this fucking answer you gave?
• 1:02:14
  It's just so selfish
• 1:02:16
  and tone deaf and stupid.
• 1:02:18
  That's an indication
• 1:02:20
  of what was in your
• 1:02:22
  head while you were out there. And I
• 1:02:24
  kind of like that Nick Wright was like,
• 1:02:26
  can you play soft? Like, does everything
• 1:02:28
  that touches you hurt you? Like, is this not
• 1:02:30
  something you can ever fucking play through?
• 1:02:32
  I agree with Nick Wright a lot. He's not wrong.
• 1:02:34
  I actually agree more with Landon Donovan.
• 1:02:36
  I mean, I agree with Landon Donovan 100%.
• 1:02:38
  It's the vacation comment that I agree with
• 1:02:40
  most. Because you just say, now I have a
• 1:02:42
  break to get healthy. And he was used to playing the Gold Cup.
• 1:02:44
  All this motherfucker does is rest.
• 1:02:46
  All he does is rest and not show up.
• 1:02:48
  Meanwhile... Last World Cup. Remember
• 1:02:50
  he even fucking got hurt last World Cup.
• 1:02:52
  He's always fucking hurt.
• 1:02:54
  No, but don't worry. He makes sure he plays
• 1:02:56
  just enough to get his contracts
• 1:02:58
  in whatever league he's playing in.
• 1:03:00
  Sidney LeRoux wrote, honestly,
• 1:03:02
  I don't care if they lost. I care that I
• 1:03:04
  watched the biggest moment of their lives disappear
• 1:03:06
  and never saw the desperation to save it.
• 1:03:08
  You spent your entire life getting to that
• 1:03:10
  field. Every sacrifice was for this.
• 1:03:12
  And when it starts slipping away, you fucking
• 1:03:14
  fight. You make them rip the dream
• 1:03:16
  out of your hands. I will never understand
• 1:03:18
  having anything left to give
• 1:03:20
  when it's over. And
• 1:03:22
  I thought about how Tim Howard talked
• 1:03:24
  about putting on the United States
• 1:03:26
  jersey. And he was like, every single time
• 1:03:28
  I went out and played for the United States,
• 1:03:30
  that was the biggest game of my life.
• 1:03:32
  That was the most important, most honored
• 1:03:34
  moment of my career. That was what I
• 1:03:36
  played soccer for, was to put that
• 1:03:38
  jersey on and play in those moments.
• 1:03:40
  That was like the best part of my
• 1:03:42
  career and the thing I'm most proud
• 1:03:44
  of. Clearly, that's how
• 1:03:46
  the women feel about it.
• 1:03:48
  And that is just simply
• 1:03:50
  not what we saw from the
• 1:03:52
  US men's national team across the board.
• 1:03:54
  I don't think that every
• 1:03:56
  player was not trying to show
• 1:03:58
  up. I actually think Balagoon played really
• 1:04:00
  well. There was no one setting him up, but he was
• 1:04:02
  everywhere he was supposed to be for so long
• 1:04:04
  until it became lost.
• 1:04:06
  Kenny didn't look great. I mean, the guys that have been
• 1:04:08
  told us that
• 1:04:10
  are the future of the team have not looked great. And now
• 1:04:12
  the media is looking at you
• 1:04:14
  and saying, oh,
• 1:04:16
  you just had a chance
• 1:04:18
  to get all of us to give a fuck.
• 1:04:20
  All you had to do was show up and fight
• 1:04:22
  Mexico.
• 1:04:24
  All you had to do was show up
• 1:04:26
  and fight and die out there.
• 1:04:28
  Cabo Verde might have won the fucking
• 1:04:30
  game. In our minds,
• 1:04:32
  they won the game. They truly did. They're on
• 1:04:34
  the map now. They're real. You literally
• 1:04:36
  didn't have to win.
• 1:04:38
  You didn't have to win. And it's almost like
• 1:04:40
  they thought, as soon as they were losing the
• 1:04:42
  game, it was like they lost. They gave up.
• 1:04:44
  Any sense of pride.
• 1:04:46
  Not to mention that Lukaku fucking goal
• 1:04:48
  with three minutes.
• 1:04:50
  Lukaku is a fucking dagger too.
• 1:04:52
  Every time he comes in, he's going to score.
• 1:04:54
  As soon as he came in, he was going to score. But right when I saw that happen,
• 1:04:56
  I was just like, just for the love of God, at least leave it here.
• 1:04:58
  When Lukaku got that goal, I was just like, you know what?
• 1:05:00
  Fuck this team. I am so
• 1:05:02
  glad that I put in this effort for these guys.
• 1:05:04
  It almost was like they didn't believe in
• 1:05:06
  the fans and the country
• 1:05:08
  to care
• 1:05:10
  that they fought. It was like, well,
• 1:05:12
  we're not going to win, so who cares? And it's like, no, we
• 1:05:14
  actually care. I promise you, if we
• 1:05:16
  had seen a team doing
• 1:05:18
  what Mexico did, doing what Cabo Verde did, that
• 1:05:20
  we would have felt so
• 1:05:22
  much better. And
• 1:05:24
  this is the one thing I like about our
• 1:05:26
  sports media in these moments, especially when
• 1:05:28
  people become initiated into it,
• 1:05:30
  it's like, you
• 1:05:32
  simply are not going to get away with this bullshit.
• 1:05:34
  We have no fucking time for you.
• 1:05:36
  We're trying to put
• 1:05:38
  men's soccer on the map here. We're trying to put
• 1:05:40
  the entire sport on the map here.
• 1:05:44
  The women are the ones who had to fight to get paid?
• 1:05:46
  Dude. Up until
• 1:05:48
  four years ago, the women had to fight to get
• 1:05:50
  paid as much as the men. And these are the fucking idiots
• 1:05:52
  who we've rolled out.
• 1:05:54
  And not all of them, but
• 1:05:56
  Pulisic is a fucking joke.
• 1:05:58
  I don't
• 1:06:00
  feel this way very often about players,
• 1:06:02
  and I've given him the benefit of the doubt time and time
• 1:06:04
  and time again. If he never puts on a Team
• 1:06:06
  USA jersey again, I'll be fucking fine.
• 1:06:08
  I'll be fine. I'm over it.
• 1:06:10
  I'm completely done with it. And as somebody
• 1:06:12
  in the media, I don't have fun watching him. I don't
• 1:06:14
  have fun covering him. He does absolutely nothing for
• 1:06:16
  me. Because it's the same fucking story.
• 1:06:18
  He's fucking hurt, or he isn't
• 1:06:20
  hurt, or whatever, and he's not going to go out there. And now
• 1:06:22
  the fucking one time, the one
• 1:06:24
  time we truly needed him, he
• 1:06:26
  was a fucking no-show. I don't
• 1:06:28
  trust you anymore. I'm done. Did you see what Flo
• 1:06:30
  Belligan did after the game? Dude, wonderful.
• 1:06:32
  Went over and hugged the manager
• 1:06:34
  of Belgium. Spoke to him.
• 1:06:36
  Rudy Garcia gave a great quote
• 1:06:38
  about it, saying, I made it abundantly clear.
• 1:06:40
  Not mad at you. None of this was your fault.
• 1:06:42
  I appreciate this kid. Extremely
• 1:06:44
  classy. Watching him go and hug every Belgian
• 1:06:46
  player. I mean, Belligan
• 1:06:48
  is now officially my
• 1:06:50
  favorite person in sports. For
• 1:06:52
  him to have the presence of mind
• 1:06:54
  and the comfort
• 1:06:56
  and the confidence
• 1:06:58
  to go over there. The class
• 1:07:00
  to go over there. He is the best of America,
• 1:07:02
  by the way. Yeah. Like a truly,
• 1:07:04
  genuinely important moment. And
• 1:07:06
  I think something that might
• 1:07:08
  have, you know, unfortunately
• 1:07:10
  been a saver,
• 1:07:12
  like a career saver, in
• 1:07:14
  terms of the way people talk about him moving
• 1:07:16
  forward. Because that Belgium team,
• 1:07:18
  you know, for better or worse, was pissed.
• 1:07:20
  And he took, obviously, they beat
• 1:07:22
  their asses. Great. That's karma.
• 1:07:24
  And then also, he
• 1:07:26
  did the most. He was the leader.
• 1:07:28
  This guy, Belligan
• 1:07:30
  is a kid. He was a leader.
• 1:07:32
  He had the presence and the integrity in that
• 1:07:34
  moment to do that. He's 100%
• 1:07:36
  the future of everything. And we could lose him
• 1:07:38
  to England. No, we are
• 1:07:40
  going to lose him to England. That's the scary part.
• 1:07:42
  It's like, we had
• 1:07:44
  one chance to keep
• 1:07:46
  him and to
• 1:07:48
  show him how much we love and respect him.
• 1:07:50
  Trump
• 1:07:52
  stuck his fucking
• 1:07:54
  orange fist into the whole thing.
• 1:07:56
  American fans,
• 1:07:58
  there was a large segment that reacted
• 1:08:00
  really poorly to it. And now, we might
• 1:08:02
  lose the best player we
• 1:08:04
  have had in a generation since Tim
• 1:08:06
  Howard to England.
• 1:08:08
  And that breaks my heart because I
• 1:08:10
  love him
• 1:08:12
  the way that everybody's wanted me to love every
• 1:08:14
  other player. I mean,
• 1:08:16
  they wanted me to love Landon
• 1:08:18
  like this. They wanted me to love Clint like this.
• 1:08:20
  And I love Landon and Clint, but I don't like
• 1:08:22
  this kid, man. This kid's got it. And
• 1:08:24
  I wish him the very best when he eventually
• 1:08:26
  goes over to England because he's not going to play
• 1:08:28
  for us again.
• 1:08:30
  I love them. How he handled himself throughout
• 1:08:32
  the entire process. The quote he gave after
• 1:08:34
  the red card made me go like,
• 1:08:36
  this guy's it. This guy.
• 1:08:38
  How he talked about how he needed to come off the field
• 1:08:40
  with class and with respect
• 1:08:42
  to the refs even though he disagreed. He needed
• 1:08:44
  to make sure because other kids are seeing this.
• 1:08:46
  Holy shit. This guy's perfect. I can't believe he's
• 1:08:48
  this guy's our fucking captain. He's fucking
• 1:08:50
  20. I would I would fight with
• 1:08:52
  everything I had to keep him on that. Please
• 1:08:54
  come back. And I don't even know if we're keeping
• 1:08:56
  Pochettino. We're definitely not keeping
• 1:08:58
  so it's like the whole thing.
• 1:09:00
  Pochettino's going to fucking sign a fucking five
• 1:09:02
  year deal with somebody and it's going to be
• 1:09:04
  he didn't exactly coaches. He should not
• 1:09:06
  have started Matt Fries, man. Hey, man, listen,
• 1:09:08
  the best kick we had yesterday
• 1:09:10
  was when he fucking kicked those water bottles
• 1:09:12
  after that second goal. He was that was the
• 1:09:14
  best kick I saw from an American. I said to Chris,
• 1:09:16
  I was like, that's a bad sign. And he goes, no, he's
• 1:09:18
  finally showing fight. And I was like, no,
• 1:09:20
  he's that's the
• 1:09:22
  I know the difference between a like, let's fucking
• 1:09:24
  go kick. And I like I'm losing control
• 1:09:26
  of my faculty's kick, by the way,
• 1:09:28
  just for the record, you know, Tillman
• 1:09:30
  was very ineffective.
• 1:09:32
  But my God on free
• 1:09:34
  kicks, this guy is a we have David
• 1:09:36
  Beckham. He's David. He
• 1:09:38
  is on fucking real. I couldn't.
• 1:09:40
  So when that happened, I was like, oh, we're in
• 1:09:42
  this like I felt the better than
• 1:09:44
  I had a great for a minute.
• 1:09:46
  I felt
• 1:09:48
  serious pride and like we're
• 1:09:50
  doing this. And then a minute and a half
• 1:09:52
  later, it was awful.
• 1:09:54
  We had a good tour.
• 1:09:56
  But his free kicks Robinson is
• 1:09:58
  like a fucking G. I'm
• 1:10:00
  you will never get me to get to
• 1:10:02
  hate. I think Anthony Robinson, I think we
• 1:10:04
  come in. I did not think that
• 1:10:06
  that, you know, some of
• 1:10:08
  the other players who shut up all tournament yesterday, I thought
• 1:10:10
  had rough days. It's
• 1:10:12
  time for Tim Rheem to move on
• 1:10:14
  a captain, a legend.
• 1:10:16
  I love Tim Rheem, but he was
• 1:10:18
  just not. So
• 1:10:20
  you know, whatever. But I'm glad you shouted out
• 1:10:22
  Malik Tillman because he
• 1:10:24
  I can't. That's
• 1:10:26
  a messy David Beckham shit like we don't
• 1:10:28
  have players who do that. You
• 1:10:30
  know, I've been watching men's soccer, this
• 1:10:32
  goddamn team. I hope we've never had a player
• 1:10:34
  by the way that wasn't even this tournament
• 1:10:36
  that happened twice in a tournament was fucking
• 1:10:38
  I looked like I was like, is
• 1:10:40
  this real? Like this is a thing we have
• 1:10:42
  like crazy
• 1:10:44
  unreal, like really fucking
• 1:10:46
  unreal. Yeah. That being said,
• 1:10:48
  I'm looking forward to seeing what we can do in the future. That
• 1:10:50
  being I felt like I said the same thing last tournament
• 1:10:52
  too, but this one I was
• 1:10:54
  really into. I hope us can get it together
• 1:10:56
  for the next go around. But I also said this
• 1:10:58
  I my
• 1:11:00
  my hope is there.
• 1:11:02
  My expectation is not
• 1:11:04
  and that's because we just don't have a system
• 1:11:06
  in place to fucking do this. I we just don't
• 1:11:08
  2028 women
• 1:11:10
  you in? I'll be in
• 1:11:12
  you in? I'll be in. Okay, you know, I'll be
• 1:11:14
  I'm usually into the women, but I'm like
• 1:11:16
  this one really got me
• 1:11:18
  like this tournament. This whole tournament
• 1:11:20
  was here has really gotten me
• 1:11:22
  to the point where you your husband
• 1:11:24
  Chris and I are talking about fucking picking
• 1:11:26
  a La Liga team together. We're talking
• 1:11:28
  like getting into that shit. By the way, he's
• 1:11:30
  making he's doing a lot of research. I know he is and
• 1:11:32
  I'm waiting for him to present me the research and not only is
• 1:11:34
  he doing research and I'm also thinking about not picking his team
• 1:11:36
  on purpose so we can have a fucking rivalry.
• 1:11:38
  Although you might not want to do that because his plan
• 1:11:40
  currently is
• 1:11:42
  to pick a place that not only is cool
• 1:11:44
  and has like cool history that is into
• 1:11:46
  but that is a sick place to travel
• 1:11:48
  if we want to go to a game goddamn. Okay,
• 1:11:50
  keep keep up the research. Yeah,
• 1:11:52
  we're but that and also like
• 1:11:54
  I know you think this is lazy. Don't
• 1:11:56
  don't don't be mad at me. You have to understand
• 1:11:58
  there is a very specific reason. I'm going to be
• 1:12:00
  all in on man man man you
• 1:12:02
  I know they're lazy. It's a lazy
• 1:12:04
  no. No, I know. It's a lazy
• 1:12:06
  pick because they're basically historically
• 1:12:08
  Yankees. I get it, but
• 1:12:10
  well, not quite. I mean more
• 1:12:12
  historically, but like how I'm in more
• 1:12:14
  of the fandom not the championship nature. They
• 1:12:16
  were like, yeah, they were the first like Dallas
• 1:12:18
  Cowboys Americans play started
• 1:12:20
  and I I'm sorry that it's going to be that
• 1:12:22
  lazy, but my bar is O'Brien's
• 1:12:24
  Pub O'Brien's Pub is a Manchester
• 1:12:26
  United bar. I'm going
• 1:12:28
  to go with it's not exactly their their
• 1:12:30
  their heyday. I know it's not
• 1:12:32
  so I mean, so I I feel
• 1:12:34
  good about jumping in on a team
• 1:12:36
  that is not
• 1:12:38
  at the top tier. They're going
• 1:12:40
  to be good no matter what like they're never going to
• 1:12:42
  be at least not anytime soon
• 1:12:44
  but that's who I'm going to be rooting for
• 1:12:46
  because of my loyalty to
• 1:12:48
  my pub. That's fine. I'm going
• 1:12:50
  to go to O'Brien's and yell at you. I mean, I'm going to go to
• 1:12:52
  us Sonny's and yell at you from
• 1:12:54
  down the street. You're going to a worse bar.
• 1:12:56
  I like Sonny's I worked there.
• 1:12:58
  I like Sonny's it's bigger
• 1:13:00
  which I do appreciate
• 1:13:02
  Oh, yeah, it's a lot bigger.
• 1:13:04
  No, it is a lot bigger and
• 1:13:06
  it's like the the the setup
• 1:13:08
  is more like it's just the horseshoe which is
• 1:13:10
  a lot easier than not as much outdoor space
• 1:13:12
  though. There is there's a full back patio
• 1:13:14
  out there now. There's two back patios at O'Brien's
• 1:13:16
  Two, two is more than one.
• 1:13:18
  Yeah, that's right. No, I really like O'Brien's
• 1:13:20
  They're both good spots actually. I'm giving shit to
• 1:13:22
  Sonny's just because I used to work there.
• 1:13:24
  My end there wasn't great. And one's like
• 1:13:26
  one's Boston and one's
• 1:13:28
  one's Boston and one is New York. O'Brien's
• 1:13:30
  became the New York bar.
• 1:13:32
  Sonny McClain's has always been the
• 1:13:34
  home. Well, actually, I take that back. It used
• 1:13:36
  to be the home of Red Sox
• 1:13:38
  Nation West. So back in
• 1:13:40
  2003 and 2004 whenever they would actually
• 1:13:42
  go to a quote unquote Boston bar,
• 1:13:44
  they weren't showing a bar in Boston. They were showing
• 1:13:46
  Sonny McClain's in Santa Monica, which
• 1:13:48
  was wild to me. I'm like, I would
• 1:13:50
  laugh when they would go to cut to cut
• 1:13:52
  like in between breaks like and look at
• 1:13:54
  the fans in Boston going crazy like that
• 1:13:56
  Sonny's Cody when I
• 1:13:58
  first moved here and I watched I watched
• 1:14:00
  the Red Sox win the World Series at
• 1:14:02
  Sonny McLean's in 2013.
• 1:14:04
  I was like, I've
• 1:14:06
  like I've watched the Red Sox
• 1:14:08
  win a World Series in Boston and it
• 1:14:10
  feels exactly the same. Yeah, no, no, it
• 1:14:12
  was fucking weird. Well, I'll tell you this where I was
• 1:14:14
  like, am I in the Twilight Zone? The old
• 1:14:16
  owner was a straight. Exactly. It's
• 1:14:18
  not the same owner. It's not. It's not the same anymore.
• 1:14:20
  But back then, I mean, it was like
• 1:14:22
  I might as well at the vibe
• 1:14:24
  felt like Boston. The bar looks like a bar
• 1:14:26
  from Boston and I was like, I feel and
• 1:14:28
  I had just moved here. It had been a matter of weeks
• 1:14:30
  and I was like, oh my
• 1:14:32
  God. Yeah. So yeah, legit.
• 1:14:34
  No, very you are. If any
• 1:14:36
  of the people watching are Boston fans
• 1:14:38
  and ever come to Los Angeles like it actually
• 1:14:40
  but it's still that good of a Boston
• 1:14:42
  spot. It's still a really fun
• 1:14:44
  place to watch a Boston sports game. Okay, good. I don't know
• 1:14:46
  what it would be like now in comparison
• 1:14:48
  to the heyday of when I will tell you the
• 1:14:50
  heyday because I was also in there
• 1:14:52
  during Lakers Celtics
• 1:14:54
  because I was working there at the time.
• 1:14:56
  Do you ever wait? Do you ever think about the fact that we
• 1:14:58
  definitely have been in the same place at the same time over the last
• 1:15:00
  probably probably were. We were probably fucking yelling
• 1:15:02
  at each other, but I was working there and I was the
• 1:15:04
  one I was the one Lakers. We were because
• 1:15:06
  like you were in New York and I know you were like
• 1:15:08
  like for a few years and then you were
• 1:15:10
  bopping around and in
• 1:15:12
  baseball, but you were in Los Angeles still a
• 1:15:14
  lot. You were doing stuff all
• 1:15:16
  around town. There's
• 1:15:18
  no way we didn't like we absolutely
• 1:15:20
  walk by each other at some probably
• 1:15:22
  all the time. It probably happened to shit
• 1:15:24
  to live in this goddamn town. We probably
• 1:15:26
  be on 26th all the time. You probably
• 1:15:28
  saw me all the time. I probably served you a beer
• 1:15:30
  at Sonny's or at
• 1:15:32
  South. If you ever came to South
• 1:15:34
  you probably came to my trivia nights
• 1:15:36
  and I don't remember I
• 1:15:38
  look different. Yeah, I looked
• 1:15:40
  better real quick before we go. I
• 1:15:42
  have to ask you this. How much do you know about Taylor Swift
• 1:15:44
  and Travis Kelsey's wedding? Not a ton
• 1:15:46
  other than they got married at Madison Square
• 1:15:48
  Garden and the
• 1:15:50
  the guest list was outrageous and they
• 1:15:52
  had to shut down a full city block for it.
• 1:15:54
  Yeah.
• 1:15:56
  Also, I don't think wedding should be like
• 1:15:58
  this. I my favorite
• 1:16:00
  thing about this has been like
• 1:16:02
  the Swifties on the internet being
• 1:16:04
  like she has to
• 1:16:06
  have it somewhere where they can't
• 1:16:08
  have paparazzi. It can't be
• 1:16:10
  outside. It has to be in Madison
• 1:16:12
  Square. I was like, hold on
• 1:16:14
  the privacy that she's
• 1:16:16
  looking for is going to be achieved.
• 1:16:18
  Most popular arena
• 1:16:20
  in the entire country. One of the
• 1:16:22
  most popular arenas in the world in the most
• 1:16:24
  crowded city in the United States. One of the
• 1:16:26
  most popular cities in the world in the
• 1:16:28
  middle of fucking Manhattan with
• 1:16:30
  1100 celebrities. I'm getting
• 1:16:32
  married at the Roman Coliseum.
• 1:16:34
  Don't look. No one look
• 1:16:36
  at me. Stop looking
• 1:16:38
  guys. Stop looking
• 1:16:40
  like are you kidding me?
• 1:16:42
  That's the thing that's annoying me.
• 1:16:44
  Small weddings.
• 1:16:46
  I'm told small weddings
• 1:16:48
  are sick. I didn't have one. I had a
• 1:16:50
  small wedding at a big wedding and I
• 1:16:52
  don't. We had a 60
• 1:16:54
  like to 62 person destination
• 1:16:56
  wedding. Everybody
• 1:16:58
  flew in, stayed at the same hotel. We vacation
• 1:17:00
  together for days. Everybody became best
• 1:17:02
  friends, got drunk and that sounds
• 1:17:04
  so much better.
• 1:17:06
  And my wedding was badass. I'm sure it was
• 1:17:08
  the best part of my marriage. Really?
• 1:17:10
  It was actually the only good part. Where was it?
• 1:17:12
  It was in just outside of downtown
• 1:17:14
  L.A. There's this, it's actually a great venue.
• 1:17:16
  I can't remember the name of it, but it was a really
• 1:17:18
  really great venue. What type of venue was it?
• 1:17:20
  It was just this beautiful
• 1:17:22
  event space style? It was
• 1:17:24
  like a very unique event space. They also had their own
• 1:17:26
  catering company at this event space and it was
• 1:17:28
  just like on the edge of
• 1:17:30
  Koreatown. And I mean
• 1:17:32
  it was a truly stunning
• 1:17:34
  event space. Did it have views?
• 1:17:36
  No, no. It was like segmented
• 1:17:38
  rooms kind of. Oh, cool. And with a really
• 1:17:40
  big like multiple. Like vibey? Yeah, very vibey.
• 1:17:42
  A lot of multiple halls like in it.
• 1:17:44
  Not a huge place, but like
• 1:17:46
  I gotta say, it was really fucking cool.
• 1:17:48
  How many people were at this wedding? 200.
• 1:17:50
  Yeah, that's too big. That's too big.
• 1:17:52
  No, I couldn't agree more. Way too many people.
• 1:17:54
  I actually think, so we were just at a wedding with
• 1:17:56
  I think it was like we counted and it was probably
• 1:17:58
  just over 100 people. Also, I never should have gotten married.
• 1:18:00
  Well, there's
• 1:18:02
  there's that. Yeah, I really should have done that.
• 1:18:04
  There's that part of it. I regret that.
• 1:18:06
  Also, yeah, like the
• 1:18:08
  amount of people there for your cursed wedding. I also
• 1:18:10
  regret that. Horrifying.
• 1:18:12
  Very expensive. But also, yeah,
• 1:18:14
  I was just at a wedding with about 100 something people.
• 1:18:16
  It was like 110 maybe. Maybe slightly
• 1:18:18
  over 100. And it was
• 1:18:20
  it was like just the right
• 1:18:22
  size of like if you're gonna have this many people,
• 1:18:24
  I'm good with this. This is a good
• 1:18:26
  little amount. Yeah. Anything more
• 1:18:28
  than that and it's like there's no way all these people
• 1:18:30
  So 2,000 in Madison Square Garden is not for you?
• 1:18:32
  You're here to collect money at this
• 1:18:34
  point. There's no way anybody gives a
• 1:18:36
  that you're here. By the way, she
• 1:18:38
  didn't register, did she?
• 1:18:40
  Who? Taylor Swift.
• 1:18:42
  She's like, by the way, we're registered at
• 1:18:44
  Home Depot and Bed Bath & Beyond.
• 1:18:46
  Let us know what you got.
• 1:18:48
  The billionaire? Yeah. I hope she
• 1:18:50
  didn't send a register to anybody. I don't know
• 1:18:52
  what her and her 1,100 famous
• 1:18:54
  people guess. Every single person there
• 1:18:56
  was some high society person. I bet
• 1:18:58
  the gift bag was crazy.
• 1:19:00
  You know, I heard
• 1:19:02
  something. There was like weird leaks about her
• 1:19:04
  like vows or like the speeches that
• 1:19:06
  they were giving to each other at this party
• 1:19:08
  and like something about how she like wished
• 1:19:10
  that she had like known
• 1:19:12
  Travis in high school because he was
• 1:19:14
  like a loser with no friends
• 1:19:16
  or something. I was like, what
• 1:19:18
  are we? I hate this.
• 1:19:20
  Wasn't he a delinquent? That was more of his thing back then?
• 1:19:22
  He was a delinquent in college. I don't know
• 1:19:24
  about high school. He almost got kicked out of college.
• 1:19:26
  I do know that. I do know that. Thank God for his older brother.
• 1:19:28
  His older brother.
• 1:19:30
  He owes his older brother
• 1:19:32
  fucking everything.
• 1:19:34
  I will give
• 1:19:36
  Travis credit. No one knows that more than him.
• 1:19:38
  Like Travis is
• 1:19:40
  very loyal to Jason.
• 1:19:42
  He fucking better be.
• 1:19:44
  Your entire life
• 1:19:46
  exists because Jason
• 1:19:48
  Kelsey fucking saved you.
• 1:19:50
  Literally. And by the way, Jason Kelsey
• 1:19:52
  is going to be fucking like one of the
• 1:19:54
  greats. He's great. Yeah. He's fucking great.
• 1:19:56
  He's a hall of famer.
• 1:19:58
  As is Travis Kelsey.
• 1:20:00
  Both of them are hall of famers.
• 1:20:02
  Jason deserves his own wing for what he did.
• 1:20:04
  He's the reason
• 1:20:06
  that he should be
• 1:20:08
  the chief's dynasty. He should actually have a chief's ring.
• 1:20:10
  He really fucking should.
• 1:20:12
  He should send his ass a ring.
• 1:20:14
  They should retire Jason Kelsey's
• 1:20:16
  fucking jersey in Kansas
• 1:20:18
  City while they're at it. They really should.
• 1:20:20
  You know what? I think we just came
• 1:20:22
  up with something that will
• 1:20:24
  I think even Chiefs fans would agree with this shit.
• 1:20:26
  Eagles fans wouldn't though.
• 1:20:28
  They'll be a little upset about it, but you know what? Get the fuck over it.
• 1:20:30
  Everybody loves Jason Kelsey.
• 1:20:32
  That is true. That is what they did. That's why they fucking
• 1:20:34
  had an active judge in the vet.
• 1:20:36
  I still love that.
• 1:20:38
  I didn't say I didn't love it. I just said
• 1:20:40
  they needed it because of fucking
• 1:20:42
  drunk lunatics. All right, Tanya. Well,
• 1:20:44
  we did it again. Couldn't get...
• 1:20:46
  We even talked about the fucking Boston Red Sox
• 1:20:48
  and we couldn't even talk about the fucking bloody sock today.
• 1:20:50
  But you know why? Because of racism.
• 1:20:52
  No, it's mostly because fuck her chilling,
• 1:20:54
  but I don't want to end the show just yet. I just wanted
• 1:20:56
  to say make sure everybody like, share, and subscribe
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• 1:21:00
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• 1:21:02
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• 1:21:04
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• 1:21:06
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• 1:21:08
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• 1:21:10
  out us on YouTube. We try for Mondays
• 1:21:12
  and Fridays. We always try for Mondays and Fridays occasionally
• 1:21:14
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• 1:21:16
  match that we had to watch. We
• 1:21:18
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• 1:21:20
  a look at us on Instagram at
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• 1:21:24
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• 1:21:26
  is doing an unbelievable thing. Make sure you follow Tanya
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  because she's the single greatest person on social media.
• 1:21:30
  Follow me too because why
• 1:21:32
  not? Yeah, I mean, you might as well follow Cody.
• 1:21:34
  Like, he's lagging way behind on the social
• 1:21:36
  media presence behind and his
• 1:21:38
  confidence is waning.
• 1:21:40
  I do feel really bad. This is why he's avoiding
• 1:21:42
  having the bloody sock debate,
• 1:21:44
  I think, because... It is not why
• 1:21:46
  but there's a percentage.
• 1:21:48
  Well, either way,
• 1:21:50
  one thing I know we do agree on, regardless of where
• 1:21:52
  we land on the bloody sock, is that it's
• 1:21:54
  fuck you, Curt Chile. Oh, God.
• 1:21:56
  Curt Chile, fuck you.
• 1:22:18
  you