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Brewsers #387- Kat Paprocki · Brewsers

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Bruisers podcast about beer, coffee, booze and Bruisers.
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  Speaker 1: I am your host, Rody John and today we talked
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  Speaker 1: to Kat Papraki. We talk about owning a gym with
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  Speaker 1: her husband, training and so much more. Kat will be
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  Speaker 1: fighting this Saturday, August twenty ninth at Fenway Park. That's right,
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  Speaker 1: Fenway Park. She is taking on Taylor Sterling at BKFC
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  Speaker 1: ninety two. This is gonna be a huge fight. The
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  Speaker 1: card looks phenomenal. If you've never seen bare knuckle fighting before,
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  Speaker 1: it is so much fun. The ring is so much smaller. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: if you are in it for you know, the knockouts
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  Speaker 1: and everything like that, you're in the perfect spot because
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  Speaker 1: there's so much blood, there's so much there's so many knockouts,
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  Speaker 1: but you have to be more technical. It's fantastic. We
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  Speaker 1: get into it in the interview. So without further ado,
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  Speaker 1: here is Cat Purprocky. I would like to welcome to
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  Speaker 1: show what Cat Proprocky. How are you doing today?
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing really well? How are you?
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing well? So for those listening kind of paintings
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  Speaker 1: the word picture, where are you at and what's going
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  Speaker 1: on around you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm in Denver, Colorado. I'm in my gym. My husband
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  Speaker 2: and I own this place. I hang out here all
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  Speaker 2: day long. It's hot here in Denver. It's been like
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  Speaker 2: ninety eight. But the worst part is at night it's
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  Speaker 2: hot still, so there's no like cooling down, so dying.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in North Texas. We're having the same situation
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  Speaker 1: we've been in the hundreds. And then at night. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's gets in the high eighties and it's like but
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  Speaker 1: you're closer to the sun, so it's probably even worse.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, man, Like, I don't know if it's worse,
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  Speaker 2: but the heat's there, man, Yeah, it's definitely like right there. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, so I mean let's go right into the you
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  Speaker 1: owning the gym with your husband? So how did that
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  Speaker 1: initially start?
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  Speaker 2: Like?
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  Speaker 1: Where did did you? Guys? Kind of inherit? It was
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  Speaker 1: it something one of those things is like I've always
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  Speaker 1: wanted to, like because I'm always curious about people owning gyms.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not as great as it sounds.
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  Speaker 1: Really.
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  Speaker 2: I just clean up after people and it's kind of
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  Speaker 2: like an adult a care. But I do love it.
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  Speaker 2: My husband and I actually have an odd story. We've
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  Speaker 2: been married now for almost twelve years.
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  Speaker 1: Instead of regulations, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and neither of us fought when we met. My
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  Speaker 2: husband started fighting first, and I was just like the
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  Speaker 2: on go Stephen I had ever fought type thing. His
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  Speaker 2: career started to get going, and he's a very business minded.
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  Speaker 2: He had been the general manager at multiple LA boxings
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  Speaker 2: and he kind of merged the two together and we
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  Speaker 2: originally started Tiny opened up in twenty and sixteen. Wow
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  Speaker 2: and yeah, and it's just grown. We recently moved into
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  Speaker 2: our largest location yet. It's gorgeous. We opened up here
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  Speaker 2: in the beginning of June, so slowly but surely, we're
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  Speaker 2: just growing this thing. I know that I can't fight forever,
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  Speaker 2: but fighting is something that I am committed to for
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  Speaker 2: the rest of my life. So being able to coach,
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  Speaker 2: being able to give back to a community that my
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  Speaker 2: husband and I feeld gave so much to us is huge.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, congratulations on ten years. That's that's huge. That's
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  Speaker 1: huge for any gym let alone, any any business.
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  Speaker 2: Really sure, absolutely absolutely well.
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  Speaker 1: And also being that intertwined with your husband and like obviously,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, you're there all day and then you
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  Speaker 1: guys go home and upbraise your kids. Is there like
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  Speaker 1: a safe word that you guys have where you have
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  Speaker 1: to like split between business and personal or how does
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  Speaker 1: how do you guys kind of interweave all that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, now that we're ten years in, we're solid
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  Speaker 2: and we're very good at changing hats. We also own
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  Speaker 2: a grappling comp any called the c JJC so in
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  Speaker 2: call Loretto. We put on huge grappling shows also, so
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  Speaker 2: there's just so many any different hats. At the beginning,
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  Speaker 2: it was hard. It was like, you're my husband and
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  Speaker 2: you're being mean to me. You're telling me to do
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  Speaker 2: push ups, and but we're also very honored, like we
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  Speaker 2: are hommies, we are best friends. I'm very aware that
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  Speaker 2: not all relationships could hang out as often as Steven
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  Speaker 2: and I do, but he's my best friend. So really
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  Speaker 2: it's just us hanging out and doing cool stuff while
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  Speaker 2: hanging out is the best way to explain it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, how did you'll initially meet?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we actually met at La boxing.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, cool.
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  Speaker 2: I was nineteen, super young, trying to just get in shape,
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  Speaker 2: and I was like I like this guy, and again,
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  Speaker 2: like we've been best friends from probably the first time
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  Speaker 2: that we hung out. We just like hanging out. So
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  Speaker 2: it's been, it's been, it's been great.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, what is your earliest memory of martial arts?
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  Speaker 1: Was it boxing or was there something else before that?
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  Speaker 2: So my earliest memory of martial arts is actually jiu jitsu.
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  Speaker 2: I started in jiu jitsu. I am a brown belt, right.
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  Speaker 2: My husband is a black bit belt, which blows our
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  Speaker 2: mind because both of us love striking more. Right, I
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  Speaker 2: was gonna yeah, yeah, and uh I did to ju
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  Speaker 2: jitsu first. I loved it striking at first, I was
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  Speaker 2: kind of like, that's brutal, that's kind of mean. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I've never been in a street fight. I'm not an
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  Speaker 2: aggressive kind of person at all. And when Steven started
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  Speaker 2: coaching more is when I kind of was more curious
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  Speaker 2: about striking. But my actual first amateur fight is a
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  Speaker 2: kickboxing fight, so it actually started more in hiking. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Do you enjoy kickboxing more or did you enjoy
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  Speaker 1: Once the actual martial arts, the mixed martial arts part
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  Speaker 1: of it happened, you were like, oh, well, now that
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  Speaker 1: I can actually use this jujitsu.
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  Speaker 2: As well, I'm an MMA girl at heart. I always
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  Speaker 2: will be MMA is really what got my heart started
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  Speaker 2: in this whole thing. So I really like a blend.
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  Speaker 2: There's like a violence to just being able to hit
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  Speaker 2: you and choke you. Right As an older lady now
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  Speaker 2: and experienced, experienced lady, I have a love and respect
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  Speaker 2: for gie us. Also being a female and having daughters,
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  Speaker 2: I think thatsu is thing that everybody should know. You
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  Speaker 2: should be able to protect your body if you get down.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know, I have a love for it all.
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  Speaker 2: I have truly been doing mixed martial arts for a
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  Speaker 2: very long time. His whole bare Nuckle journey's kind of
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  Speaker 2: at the not the end at all. But when my
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  Speaker 2: goals for MMA shifted, bare nuckles kind of what made sense.
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  Speaker 2: And then when I found bare knuckle, I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: this is the way.
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  Speaker 1: So how did that actually come on your plate? Of
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  Speaker 1: like you know what, hey, do you want to fight
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  Speaker 1: is bare knuckle fights?
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  Speaker 2: It came from a really really sad low place. To
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  Speaker 2: be honest with you, looking at my background, I was
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  Speaker 2: such a good striker in and and May I made
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  Speaker 2: it really quick places very early. I was on the
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  Speaker 2: Ultimate Fire Season thirty team Amanda. I was also on
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  Speaker 2: the Dana White and areas I have very high credentials
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  Speaker 2: and they and it was never my skill, it was
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  Speaker 2: my mental state. And I kept knocking at the door
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  Speaker 2: of the UFC and coming up short, and I kind
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  Speaker 2: of felt broken and I really didn't know what to do.
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  Speaker 2: I started to represent training. I started to kind of
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  Speaker 2: feel lost and like what am I? What am I
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  Speaker 2: training six hours a day for? And where is my
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  Speaker 2: place here? And when I was kind of at the end,
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  Speaker 2: I was kind of like, Steven, I think I'm done,
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  Speaker 2: Like I don't think I can do this, and he
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  Speaker 2: he and I had always talked about bare knuckle being
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  Speaker 2: something I wanted to do at the very end because
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  Speaker 2: it seemed so brutal and like yes, my face looks
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  Speaker 2: like yeah, yeah, sure, And he said, well, hey, gat,
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  Speaker 2: if you're done, then why don't you try that mix?
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  Speaker 2: And He's like, well, why don't you give me three
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  Speaker 2: months of just training for a bare knuckle match. Let's
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  Speaker 2: just see And I was like whatever, like fine, sure,
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  Speaker 2: And day by day just throwing these fists, my heart
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  Speaker 2: started healing. I started to just fall in love with
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  Speaker 2: training again. I didn't feel so lost in being taken
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  Speaker 2: down and not It was no secret in my MMA
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  Speaker 2: career that once I got my hands going, you had
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  Speaker 2: a problem. And so everyone was just shooting it and
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  Speaker 2: again like it was never my skill. But I started
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  Speaker 2: to just lack the convenance and like can I do this?
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  Speaker 2: And so got booked with bk FC. I fought Sidney
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  Speaker 2: Smith and I have a training partner, Courtney Cameron, She's
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  Speaker 2: a champ over at b EKB and he said, Kat,
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  Speaker 2: just wait, just wait till you land your first punch.
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  Speaker 2: You are gonna fall in love. And I was like,
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  Speaker 2: all right. And after the very first round, I come
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  Speaker 2: back into the corner and I'm like, you were right.
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  Speaker 2: I love this, like I'm living. Yeah, so stumbled into this.
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  Speaker 2: It's definitely different than m m A. It's a sweet,
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  Speaker 2: beautiful boxing science and the lack of the gloves makes
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  Speaker 2: the cost of each punch so much higher. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: a brawler. If you look at my last three bare
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  Speaker 2: knuckle fights, I haven't gotten hitches, not one time. I'm
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  Speaker 2: truly trying to bring head movement and angles and a
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  Speaker 2: pretty tactical style and so I'm just playing with it
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  Speaker 2: and enjoying it and it's fun.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's small. It's such a smaller ring too, which
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  Speaker 1: I think is super interesting. Obviously, it makes us far
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  Speaker 1: more intimate and you're not going anywhere like because we
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  Speaker 1: do see a lot of these because obviously boxing will
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  Speaker 1: see ZUFA Boxing getting so much bigger, MVPs doing fantastic things,
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  Speaker 1: especially for women's boxing, but they still have it's still
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  Speaker 1: a giant ring as opposed to you know, bare knuckle,
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  Speaker 1: it's so much smaller, and like I said, you won't
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  Speaker 1: have any room to just go anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: However, man, it's a circle, so the ability to just
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  Speaker 2: roll off that ring is it's not too bad. Again,
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  Speaker 2: I thought in like corners and like octagons, and sometimes
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  Speaker 2: you get stuck in what's called the dead space, and
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  Speaker 2: there really is no dead space in a squared berkle.
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  Speaker 2: My last fight in clear Water against Crystal van Vickick
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  Speaker 2: was the smallest area I have ever fought in ever,
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  Speaker 2: but I moved so much that I kind of feel
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  Speaker 2: like it it opens up that space anyway. Okay, And two,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, bring it on, I stand here and bang
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  Speaker 2: with me whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, yeah, we've had the ring announcer Jeff Houston
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  Speaker 1: on the show before. I love that guy. He's fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: I love what At first, I was very curious about
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  Speaker 1: ber Knuckle, and then it's the popularities g owing so
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  Speaker 1: much and so much to the point that you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be fighting August twenty ninth at Fenway Park of all places.
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  Speaker 1: That's insane. What does that feel? What it like just
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  Speaker 1: when you found that out? What was the what was
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  Speaker 1: going through your brain?
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  Speaker 2: You know? When I found that out, I just felt
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  Speaker 2: like all the stars aligned. I'm so prepared for this moment.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't necessarily know when this was going to happen,
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  Speaker 2: but I've been preparing for something since May, and it
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  Speaker 2: just feels right. It's exciting. I have gone some really
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  Speaker 2: cool places in fighting, and so to just add the
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  Speaker 2: Hiss to the list is amazing. I'm honored, just honored.
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  Speaker 2: It's cool. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Also, like you said, this was you know, not that
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  Speaker 1: you're on your way out by any means, but you
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  Speaker 1: were just trying to like a last resort, and now
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  Speaker 1: you're fighting at Fenway Park. I don't I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't do the research I was about to do for it.
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  Speaker 1: But is this the first, like like a combat fight
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  Speaker 1: ever to happen at Fenway I.
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  Speaker 2: Would imagine, So, Okay, I can't imagine that there is
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  Speaker 2: anything else that has happened there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I've gone to a fish show there, but that's
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  Speaker 1: a that's a concert and they do that. They do
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  Speaker 1: concerts there all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think there's ever been a combat fight there.
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  Speaker 2: It's so cool. It's so cool.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, as someone who has luckily been on the field, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: just take it in like book around the history of
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  Speaker 1: that place is absolutely crazy. No, yeah, I'm looking, there's
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  Speaker 1: been nothing that's so cool. Wow. Yeah, you're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: the first not to anymore, not to add anything extra
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  Speaker 1: to it.
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  Speaker 2: Bring it on, add it on. Yeah, yeah here here
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  Speaker 2: in Colorado. I was also the main event of the
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  Speaker 2: very first ever combat sports event at the Olympic Training
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  Speaker 2: Reason too. Yeah. Yeah, so I have done some cool thing.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm like, just keep adding it on. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: what what a life to just have lived?
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, well, I mean so you touched on it,
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  Speaker 1: you were on The Ultimate Fighter, you were on the
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  Speaker 1: Dana White Contender series. What do you think you learned
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  Speaker 1: most from? I mean the Ultimate Fighter alone is something
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  Speaker 1: that it's for people who don't you know, they see
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  Speaker 1: it on TV, but like, what is the actual time
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  Speaker 1: span of that show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was. I was there for three months,
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  Speaker 2: so January through the end of March. But they take
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  Speaker 2: your phone, yeah, and they take your access to like
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  Speaker 2: your life, no, no music, no TV. I didn't no no,
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  Speaker 2: because they don't want to have to deal with the
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  Speaker 2: ice himself of course, right, So even like training, it's
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  Speaker 2: just quiet.
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  Speaker 1: And uh generic music that like.
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  Speaker 2: Not at all, not at all. And it's interesting because
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  Speaker 2: like for me, I I am born and bred d
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  Speaker 2: e c O and m a my gym, and my
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  Speaker 2: husband has cornered me my entire career and here I
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  Speaker 2: am in like the biggest fight of my life and
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  Speaker 2: I can't even call home. And it was such an
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  Speaker 2: experience I wouldn't do it again, to be honest, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know many people who do it that would do
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  Speaker 2: it again. But it was very cool. It brought me
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  Speaker 2: so much no no to write that heat as well,
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  Speaker 2: and like I'm part of a very small group of
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  Speaker 2: people who can even say that they have done something
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  Speaker 2: that cool. Definitely something that took me a few years
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  Speaker 2: to take away from it and to yeah, yes, I
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  Speaker 2: was so hurt and so bummed out by just like
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  Speaker 2: the whole experience and like it it's so personal, like
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  Speaker 2: you're just exposed on this show, and like I'm not
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  Speaker 2: a super reality TV show person anyway, so like putting
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  Speaker 2: something so close to my heart, like just on a show,
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  Speaker 2: it's hard and then too like you then have to
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  Speaker 2: like watch it back and like I lot to do. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you're right, I make myself right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean most people do, Like what did they
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  Speaker 1: put in there? Would they cut? Would they like? Because
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  Speaker 1: there's obviously there's things that were said that you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're not connected to any scenario that it was actually
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  Speaker 1: happening at the time. I watched enough Brava shows, I
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  Speaker 1: know how this is all cut up.
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  Speaker 2: It's so interesting too, because it really changed my perspective
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  Speaker 2: because seeing it edited and how like out of order
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  Speaker 2: the whole show was. Knowing that like so many fights
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  Speaker 2: happened on the same night but were split into and
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  Speaker 2: the amount of times that we had to re walk
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  Speaker 2: through a doorway something totally and like you're in a
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  Speaker 2: house with these people that you're fighting, which I also
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  Speaker 2: learned that like fighters are just humans and like everybody's
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  Speaker 2: going through the same experience. But like you didn't have
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  Speaker 2: a door to your room because cameras had to be
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: able to flow in and out. It's like weird cool stuff. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but uh, I don't know it. It gave me tough
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  Speaker 2: for skin, and it made me really appreciate, like my
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  Speaker 2: corner crew. It made me appreciate the process. And for
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  Speaker 2: the first time, like I was fighting alone and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, I freaking love this. I think this is cool.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what did you learn from I'm just being around Amanda.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean obviously the goat of you know,
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  Speaker 1: professional wrestling or not sorry of MMA, So like what
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  Speaker 1: was that situation?
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  Speaker 2: Like Amanda has more passion than anybody I have ever met.
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  Speaker 2: She like comes to practice and she just loves training
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  Speaker 2: so much and she will sit on the mat with
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  Speaker 2: you for hours going over any technique that you could
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  Speaker 2: possibly and her knowledge is it never ends. She's also
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  Speaker 2: one of the most humble, kindest human beings I have
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  Speaker 2: ever met, and she is just a really good person.
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  Speaker 2: So being around her was just inspiring as well. And
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  Speaker 2: her wife Nina was on also and she's also like
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  Speaker 2: a badass and she's hilarious and they were just fun. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, because I mean, being that close
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  Speaker 1: to greatness, I imagine there's you're just watching like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: she does this, but I'm not doing that. Do I
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  Speaker 1: need to start doing that? Like I just imagine you
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  Speaker 1: probably just trying to pick yourself.
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  Speaker 2: Up well, and it was coming off of her loss
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  Speaker 2: against Juliana, So watching her just exert like I'm getting
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  Speaker 2: my belt back. Oh yeah, And there's no conversation to
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  Speaker 2: be had. I can be uncomfortable, I can be scared,
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  Speaker 2: I can be whatever, but I'm getting this on. And
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  Speaker 2: that's an inspiring mindset to even be around, because we
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  Speaker 2: all have gone through hardships and we have all gone
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  Speaker 2: through the losses, and you're around this fighter who has
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  Speaker 2: lost at the highest level possible and she is still
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  Speaker 2: exuding this complicence and belief in herself and uh yeah
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  Speaker 2: it's cool.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah that chip on the shoulder of like, nope, that
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: it was a fluke. It's ever happened again and sure enough.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah she was correct. I man, I want to
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: see her fight Kayla Harrison.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: So so do I I hope I really know we're
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: I think Kayla's back training.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I think so too. Yeah.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I think I don't think any pictures or videos ranging
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: has really come out, But I believe that's what I've
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: been hearing. And I'm like, good because I obviously I
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: want her to be safe and I want you know,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be the first fight back after the surgery
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: and you know, her title defense and so yeah, and
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: obviously against the goat, so like, what do you do?
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: That's so excited?
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I really hope that does happen, and probably not
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: this year, but hey, there's the first.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I agree.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, as long as it doesn't happen like
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: the McGregor want, I think we'll be fun.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Bomber Man just for everybody evolved, literally everybody.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Well not so much for Connor because he that that
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: massive paycheck he got, but you know.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: It's even for him though too man for sure.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Because like there's no way that he was probably like, okay,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: however this ends, maybe we'll do a three that's my
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: fite whatever and then but yeah, just the first and
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: then every he thinks it's like the controversy behind it.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: It's like like this is this happens, this happens.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Has this happens to people? And like he's older man.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, also, like clearly he was on steroids for
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: a while and totally from what I hear, not great
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: for your bones.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: So you're, yeah, totally.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Take care of that. That's it was gonna be bound
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: to happen, whether it be the first round or.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: If only it hadn't been the first round though, you
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, maybe later in the round, not
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: the first maybe later the first kick. What are the odds?
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but hey, that's the sport. Totally totally well So,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, so you're pretty open about being a recovering alcoholic,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: which congratulations on, you know, continuing to fight that. I
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: know it's a daily process. What are some advice that
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: you kind of have for people that are going through
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: the covery themselves or maybe have even thought about, you know,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: getting some help themselves.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, Man, take it one day at a time
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: because you you have to be mindful of your moments,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: and recovery is really really hard. And you even when
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: you start to get sobriety under your belt, I'm coming
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: up on four years.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: On Halloween, congratulations.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like each stage is different. So like now,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: like I'm so confident in my sobriety and not drinking,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: sometimes I'll like forget that, Like I don't drink and
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, like it's patient, Like it sneaks up
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: on you. And for me, I knew I had a
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: problem long before I let myself say it out loud.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: For me, I knew that when I said it out loud,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: I would have to quit. And that was really really scary.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I've gone through sobriety twice, so it's funny too because
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: it pops up in my career career. Also, the first
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: time I got sober, I was doing so well. Oh
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I had been sober for two years. I'm like, I'm cured.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: I overreacted. I must not have had a problem, and
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: it crept its way back in and like, yeah, at
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: first I guess I was drinking normally. I don't know,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: but it never ends that way for me. And so
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: this second time around, I kind of had to accept, like,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: this is it and if I wanted to get my
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: comf and it's back, and I wanted to be responsible
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: to the things that I said and that I was
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: going to do, like I just needed to get so
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: sober and uh. Sobriety uh does not run through my family,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: but alcoholism does. And man, it can get a hold
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: of you and it can just drastically change who you
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: who are. And uh, not only did I feel I
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: owe it to my marriage, my family, but me too.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: I was really letting myself down in probably every area possible,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: and so it was just time. And uh like, if
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: you're even having that thought, I say, try it, because
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: it's better than just letting it sink you further rightly, Yeah.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's genuinely be an anchor because it's it's legal,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: It's everywhere, it's legal. It's so easy to get it
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: no matter what level you really want to drink, whether
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: it's nice stuff or even the bottom basement stuff, no
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: matter what it is like, so it's just and it's
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: so socially acceptable to just be out and drinking. So
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: that's why I'm loving the non alcoholic stuff that's been happening.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: And yes, people that are doing sober curious things which
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: are great too. Yeah, yeah, that's that's I love too
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: that on the show as well, because you do have
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: the option you can do the non alcoholic. A lot
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: of these mock nails and non alcoholic stuff taste almost
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: the same, if not better than the one with alcoholic,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: and you don't feels.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Better that that is true, that is totally true. I yeah, yeah,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: I uh, it's funny because I am so if if
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: a drink had alcohol in it, I would never not
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: in shit. And my husband laughs because my non alcoholics stuff,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I'll drink like half and I'm like set, I'm like good,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: I'm like man, like what what? What? What's happened here?
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Why couldn't I do this before?
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Well?
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: How has been training? You know? Obviously when you were
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: drinking and then sober? How different did you see the
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: was it for you?
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Every thing about my mental state is different, I think
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: when when you're in active alcoholism. Especially for me, I
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: was a liar to myself and making excuses was really easy.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: And like everybody has excuses for why they don't want
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: a train. I don't want to train every day, right,
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: but too fucking bad, And it was easy to convince
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: myself like, well I didn't run the four miles. I
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: cut it short at two, but it still counts because
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: and you start shortcutting like everything, well, then that's just
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: the way that you're training. And if you're shortcutting things
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: in training, you're gonna be shortcutting it when you fight too.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: And I haven't been at the level in a while
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: where I can take a short cut. When I'm good
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: and you're good, we're both fighting within very small rgins.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: And if I'm cutting things short and training, I mean
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: those tiny margins show and like it's easy to have
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: false confidence when you're drinking actively because alcoholism gives you confidence.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: You feel pretty confident when you're drinking. And so just
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: this constant cycle of like not great training, having excuses,
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: and then having this undeserved comf a dense And the
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: thing about fighting is is it exposes you. It exposes
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: your truth, and it exposes if you train that hard,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: and it exposes if you're confident or not. And so
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: that started to bleed through. Who you are at home
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: is who you are at your job. And I was
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: slacking everywhere right now, man, Like I I couldn't be
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: more proud of myself. I have to slow myself down
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: sometimes and like remind myself that I'm proud because I'm
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: always chasing like more. I'm one of those fighters where
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: I could have a monstrous day and sparring, but I'm like,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: you know what, there were those few combos that I
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: could have done it better. But I take moments now
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: to just be like, all right, I have I have
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: truly turned over every stone I could possibly turn in
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: this training camp. And there is true confidence that's earned
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: through that. It's not courage that I got from a bottle, right,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: It's it's true courage from the absolute time and hours
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: and effort and struggle that that I have one put in.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: And being sober helps me be that person that can
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: show up in training and actually do what I set
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: out to do. So so sober cat is just building moment.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that confidence is built in the gym and like
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: you said, just getting the reps in and doing it
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: over Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Well, so I mean, so you have a shirt out
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: right now. It's a limited edition shirt. Love that sick.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: It's a sick design. That's pretty cool design, just a
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: super dope design. Tell tell people how they can get it.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, So I am on Instagram at cat Pap Rocky.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Just shoot me over what size you want, I'll send
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: you the leak and we'll get this thing happening here.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: So check out my shirt. It's pretty cool.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's super cool shirt.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: They really amplify those abs too.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hold me, my abs are popping right now. I'm shredded.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: That way is going to be awesome.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Just wait, yeah, yes, yeah, I Taylor Starling is known
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: for like her crowns and her outfits. And for me,
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: my body is gonna speak for itself. It's gonna be
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: my masterpiece. Get Ready, there you go? Yeah?
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Well, I have a segment show. I call it the
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Five Counts. It's five random questions.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, cool?
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Number one? Who is your first concert?
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Green Day?
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Love that fu Yeah, showy homie.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: They're entertaining and fun and still like out there oh.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, even at the age there are now,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: they're still killing.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: I mean what makes me laugh is they still look
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: very similar to what theay like. Spiky hair, spiky belts.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they have not changed since Dookie. It's it's awesome. Now.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: This next one's gonna be interesting. We could change it
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: around here. It normally it's if you owned a liquor company, brewery, winery,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: coffee shop, dispensary. Which one would you own? What would
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: the name be? But we can add a non alcoholic
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: company as well, if you want to add that as well.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: I do coffee becaucause everybody knows when you go to AA,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: everybody's chugging coffee. I'm a coffee person. Yeah, I would
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: definitely do coffee.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, what would the name be?
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, oh, I'm so late, cat Pop Rockies, coffee spot.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Here you go, that's perfect. Yeah. What for dinner guests?
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Dead or alive?
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Would you have dinner guests dead or alive? How many
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: dinner guests? Oh? I get four? Yea for dinner guests?
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: This is not like out of touch with like the
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: world I am. I'm like, I can't even think of
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: four people.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Well through your whole life, I imagine there's been four
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: people that you're like.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Why right, Oh man, who's the Who is the creator
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: of Family Guy? Oh, Seth MacFarlane, Seth McFarlane.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: The fact I was able to do that fast is alarming.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: That was pretty good. I would want the creator of
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: the Himpsons too.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, Matt Groening' you're good. That's the useless stuff in
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: my brain. There's so much.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably it. I just want to hear more
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: about how they came up with the show. And I
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: love the show.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: And know yeah, I would love to hear Seth and
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Matt talk too, because Seth and or Matt inspired Seth
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: so much as well, and then like the time, considering
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: how cutting edge the Simpsons were, then when it came
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: to the humor, and then later when the family guy
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: got canceled two or three times, So yeah, that'd be funny.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Number four, Who or what inspires you? M?
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Who or what inspires me? Right now? My youngest daughter,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: her name is Leila. She is going into her sophomore
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: year in high school. Wow, and she just got her
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: blue belt.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: She had a monstrous for season in high school for
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: rest sally. She went to States and she won egenoles, which,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: mind you, this was her first.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yere time.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: And uh, she's been my little homie in the gym.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: I do cardio a stare master at four point thirty am.
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: And she gets up every morning with me and she
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: goes and in her her head like like I'm I'm
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: pushing her, but like really she's pushing me, and like
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: seeing her like develop and fall in love with fighting
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: is just inspiring me, like why I started in the
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: first place. Yeah, oh yeah.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: That's perfect, that's pretty cool. Yeah. Number five, what would
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: you tell her seventeen year old self?
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Don't drop out of high school? Your dummy, what are
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: you doing I would probably target my stuttering. I think
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: I've grown so much into my stutter and I'm so
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: confident in and now I would tell myself, don't take
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: it so seriously and make those phone calls and talk
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: the talk when you wanted.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean I wanted to bring it up
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: at some point, but yeah, please do Yeah, I mean,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: how do you what advice do you give to kids
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: that are coming up and they are, you know, having
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: stuttering problems.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I just did a meet and greet today. Oh,
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: this is my favorite conversation to talk about. I would
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: tell them that fluency isn't important, Okay, it's communication, yep.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: And you can stutter and you can be as fluent
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: and you can still get what you want out. And yeah,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: communication is key. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Well, if people want to find out more about you, obviously,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: watch you fight, follow you online, visit the gym. How
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: can they do all this? Buy the T shirt? How
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: can they do all the things?
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, please check me out on Instagram at ca pap Rocky.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Also check out my gym as well at dco MMA.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: You can check out our gym. You can look up
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: my fight shirts and then my fight August twenty ninth
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: at Fenway Park against Taylor Starling. Guys, you don't want
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: to miss this fight. It's gonna be a war. I
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: am coming for her and I know that she's coming
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: for me. It's gonna be on BKFC, so make sure
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: you add that in to your calendar. You don't want
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: to miss it.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Exactly first fight ever at Fenway Park, and you're gonna.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Be Yes, you gotta see it.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: I love it. Kat, Thank you so much for being
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: on the show. Oh yeah again. I can't wait to
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: see you fight at Fenway and this.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Thank you a awesome Thank you so much.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: No problem, Thank you so much to Kat for being
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: on the show again. Tune in this Saturday, August twenty ninth.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: She will be fighting at Fenway Park. That is the
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: coolest place you could have a fight, I think, because
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: the history in that place is so legendary. But she
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: will be taking on Taylor starlingk at Barey Knuckle Fighting
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Championships ninety two. This car is gonna be amazing, not
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: only because of the venue itself, but just because of
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: the card. You get to check that out. The whole
• 41:03
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• 41:05
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