Latest / INSIGHT TODAY / Trump mulls restoring diplomacy with Kim Jong Un, can 'straighten out' tensions in Korean Peninsula
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- 0:00Speaker 1: North Korea said it had test fired a nuclear capable
- 0:04Speaker 1: cruise missile. That's just hours before Trump arrived in South Korea.
- 0:09Speaker 1: But the US president seems confident that he can de
- 0:13Speaker 1: escalate tensions between Seoul and Pyongyang. That's despite not being
- 0:17Speaker 1: able to set up a meeting with the North Korean
- 0:20Speaker 1: leader Kim Jong un the Korean peninsula. And I know
- 0:24Speaker 1: you are officially at war, but we will see what.
- 0:28Speaker 2: We can do to get that all straightened. We know
- 0:30Speaker 2: Kim jongun very.
- 0:31Speaker 1: Well, we get along very well.
- 0:32Speaker 2: We really weren't able to work out timing.
- 0:36Speaker 1: I've given that Trump seemed keen to meet the North
- 0:39Speaker 1: Korean leader. I asked Jenny Town from the foreign affairs
- 0:42Speaker 1: think tank the Stimpson Center, why a meeting didn't happen.
- 0:47Speaker 2: Well, so far, you know, the champe has indicated several
- 0:50Speaker 2: times that he's opened to meeting with Kim Jong i,
- 0:53Speaker 2: and he wants to meet with Kim Jong I, and
- 0:55Speaker 2: Kim Jong un did make some overtures last month saying
- 0:58Speaker 2: that there is a possibility for diplomacy in the future,
- 1:02Speaker 2: but really only when the time is right and when
- 1:05Speaker 2: the agenda is clear, and so far that agenda is
- 1:08Speaker 2: not clear, and the North Koreans have not been responsive
- 1:11Speaker 2: to Trump's overtures during this trip itself. And of course
- 1:15Speaker 2: there was just the test fire of a nuclear capable
- 1:19Speaker 2: cruise missile yesterday in the lead up and some statements
- 1:22Speaker 2: between North Korea and Russia really calling out US and
- 1:28Speaker 2: South Korea alliance as being part of the agitation in
- 1:31Speaker 2: the region. So this isn't the time for that diplomacy,
- 1:35Speaker 2: for USDPRK diplomacy to get started, but certainly there is
- 1:40Speaker 2: still possibility for it in the future.
- 1:43Speaker 1: You mentioned the launch of those test missiles. What message
- 1:47Speaker 1: is Pyuong yang sending with that?
- 1:52Speaker 2: I think, you know, the this was an interesting test.
- 1:58Speaker 2: You know, Kim jongan was not. They're at it, so
- 2:01Speaker 2: it doesn't have the same kind of political weights as
- 2:04Speaker 2: one where he would have been overseeing the test itself.
- 2:08Speaker 2: But you know, I think it is it is a
- 2:11Speaker 2: signal that this is not the time for diplomacy, that
- 2:14Speaker 2: there is not room for there's not the agenda isn't set.
- 2:20Speaker 2: We heard Ejmung and Donald Trump still talk about denuclearization,
- 2:24Speaker 2: which in North Koreans have said is off the tables.
- 2:27Speaker 2: We also saw Trump in Japan meet with the families
- 2:30Speaker 2: of the abductees, which is another issue that North Korea
- 2:34Speaker 2: feels is already off the table. So I think, you know,
- 2:37Speaker 2: the public messaging in terms of what the US is
- 2:41Speaker 2: looking for in trying to restart talks with the North
- 2:45Speaker 2: Koreans is going to be incredibly important. And this was
- 2:48Speaker 2: just not the time.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Trump did once call Kim Jong on a friend. Now
- 2:52Speaker 1: his tone seems to be much more confrontational. Can you
- 2:56Speaker 1: talk to us about what is potentially behind that shift.
- 3:02Speaker 2: Well, it could be a callback to say, for instance,
- 3:06Speaker 2: the fire and fury era of twenty seventeen ahead of talks.
- 3:11Speaker 2: I think there is a little bit of frustration coming
- 3:14Speaker 2: from the Trump administration, from Trump himself that the North
- 3:17Speaker 2: Koreans are not being responsive and they're not being cooperative
- 3:20Speaker 2: and he was hoping they would be. And I think
- 3:23Speaker 2: some of it is also just posturing for assurances to
- 3:27Speaker 2: our allies, to South Korea and Japan that this is
- 3:30Speaker 2: a high priority issue, that he understands the concerns and
- 3:34Speaker 2: the security concerns there, and that it is an issue
- 3:39Speaker 2: that we will the US and our allies will continue
- 3:42Speaker 2: to work on together.
- 3:44Speaker 1: And how will Trump shift in tone? Do you think
- 3:48Speaker 1: go down with North Korea. I mean, is it likely
- 3:50Speaker 1: to provoke North Korea.
- 3:54Speaker 2: I'm not sure it will necessarily provoke North Korea, but
- 3:57Speaker 2: it's certainly going to push that timeline for negotiations in
- 4:02Speaker 2: the future further into the future. They are not necessarily
- 4:06Speaker 2: responsive to strong arm brinkmanship, and especially right now, when
- 4:11Speaker 2: they have options, and they have diplomatic options, they have
- 4:14Speaker 2: economic options that we've seen for instance, of course in
- 4:18Speaker 2: the relationship with Russia, warming relations with China. We saw
- 4:23Speaker 2: Vietnam and Dallas some high level delegates to their recent
- 4:27Speaker 2: parade in Pyanyang. So you know, I think for the
- 4:31Speaker 2: North Koreans there's no rush here, unlike what they saw
- 4:35Speaker 2: is an opportunity back in twenty eighteen. So I think,
- 4:39Speaker 2: you know, this is really just a moment where it
- 4:43Speaker 2: you know, when the time is right, we will know it.
- 4:47Speaker 2: But for right now, they're just isn't the right message.
- 4:52Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Jenny Town from the Stimpson Center.
- 4:55Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us at