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Held at Gunpoint. Never Surrendered. with Regina Huber | Ship's Log #28 · Project Candor: Ordinary People. Unexpected Stories

• 0:03
  Regina Huber: Uncertainty and chaos aren't something to avoid.
• 0:06
  Regina Huber: It's where freedom lives and possibilities multiply.
• 0:10
  Regina Huber: I believe that certainty is limitation.
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  Regina Huber: It doesn't really exist anyway.
• 0:16
  Regina Huber: It's just an illusion, but it keeps us within that limitation and uncertainty holds unlimited possibilities.
• 0:23
  Regina Huber: So uncertainty unlimited possibilities.
• 0:26
  Jeanne: Hello and welcome to Project Candor.
• 0:29
  Jeanne: Today we welcome Regina Huber.
• 0:31
  Jeanne: Regina Huber is a transformational leadership coach, international speaker, and author who has lived and worked across multiple continents.
• 0:40
  Jeanne: She's the founder of Transform Your Performance, where she helps leaders and entrepreneurs elevate their confidence, execute presence, and global impact.
• 0:49
  Jeanne: Regina blends business strategy with embodiment and movement, integrating leadership development with cross-cultural intelligence and even dance.
• 0:58
  Jeanne: Having navigated corporate leadership, international relocations, entrepreneurship, and bold reinventions of her own, Regina guides others to lead with courage, clarity, and authenticity, especially during times of change.
• 1:12
  Jeanne: Regina, welcome aboard Project Candor.
• 1:16
  Regina Huber: I am so delighted to be here, Jeanne.
• 1:18
  Regina Huber: I am looking forward to this conversation.
• 1:21
  Jeanne: Oh, that's so wonderful.
• 1:23
  Jeanne: Before we get started, I'll just say I usually go into questions and you know, just try to get to know you a little bit.
• 1:29
  Jeanne: And then I'll uh as you already know, we've talked about this.
• 1:32
  Jeanne: We have our two truths in a lie.
• 1:33
  Jeanne: But I'm gonna interject something in here because I I just want to say something about your integrity this morning.
• 1:42
  Jeanne: They would never know this unless I tell them.
• 1:45
  Jeanne: You and I were supposed to record on Friday last week.
• 1:50
  Jeanne: And then you had a bike accident.
• 1:54
  Jeanne: Somebody hit you?
• 1:55
  Regina Huber: Yeah, somebody literally rode into me on his bike.
• 1:59
  Regina Huber: And it was so last minute.
• 2:01
  Regina Huber: I was so surprised I could not avoid him.
• 2:03
  Regina Huber: There was no space to avoid him either, but it was so quick.
• 2:06
  Regina Huber: Like he literally just moved over to my lane and and it was frontal, so it was far too quick.
• 2:13
  Regina Huber: And yeah, we both to the floor, but I was the one who was hurt.
• 2:17
  Jeanne: Oh my gosh, were you on a bike or were you in a car walking?
• 2:22
  Regina Huber: And I fell on my left elbow, and that's why I had to have elbow surgery on Monday eventually.
• 2:29
  Regina Huber: Oh my gosh.
• 2:31
  Jeanne: Well, and the reason why I wanted to call this out is because I can't even believe you bothered to send me a note that you had an accident, so you I wouldn't be waiting here for our recording.
• 2:43
  Jeanne: That was so nice of you.
• 2:44
  Jeanne: I mean, here you are in pain and you're reaching out to me.
• 2:48
  Jeanne: That's a lot of integrity.
• 2:50
  Jeanne: Thank you so much.
• 2:52
  Regina Huber: Well, you know, it just felt normal to me.
• 2:54
  Regina Huber: I mean, I I I didn't faint, so I wasn't on I could do this.
• 3:00
  Regina Huber: It would have been harder years ago, right?
• 3:03
  Regina Huber: Without a smartphone or a mobile phone, but now it's become easier.
• 3:08
  Regina Huber: So yeah.
• 3:09
  Jeanne: Yeah, I would have just sat here and probably waited, wondered, and then reached out to you later or recorded some other clips or something I wanted to do.
• 3:18
  Jeanne: But I really appreciated that.
• 3:20
  Jeanne: That was so sweet.
• 3:21
  Jeanne: And I that speaks to your character a lot.
• 3:24
  Regina Huber: And thanks for your flexibility also.
• 3:26
  Jeanne: Oh, that's not a problem.
• 3:28
  Jeanne: You know, so I'll start my questions.
• 3:30
  Jeanne: Uh, you've lived and worked across multiple countries and cultures.
• 3:35
  Jeanne: How has navigating different environments shaped your leadership philosophy?
• 3:40
  Regina Huber: Well, so I think it's had a pretty big impact, you know, because I have seen leadership in different cultures, in different countries, different language zones, and I have realized that a lot of things are actually the same.
• 3:55
  Regina Huber: Now it's it's a lot about uh you mentioned one thing already, right?
• 3:58
  Regina Huber: Integrity, uh also trust building, transparency, really coming from that pure intention to lead from a place of wanting to do our best for whoever we lead or whoever we want to inspire.
• 4:15
  Regina Huber: Sometimes it's through inspiration that we lead.
• 4:19
  Regina Huber: We don't necessarily need a team to be able to lead, right?
• 4:23
  Regina Huber: We could be a speaker, we could be in many different capacities.
• 4:28
  Regina Huber: And I have found that, you know, yes, there are certain skills that we need, communication is definitely one of them.
• 4:36
  Regina Huber: But in the end, it's also about who we are as leaders.
• 4:41
  Regina Huber: And I think that's the most important thing.
• 4:43
  Regina Huber: And of course, then the second thing is about self-leadership.
• 4:48
  Regina Huber: If somebody doesn't know how to lead themselves, then I would not want to be led by that person.
• 4:53
  Regina Huber: These people are in leadership positions.
• 5:00
  Jeanne: Absolutely.
• 5:01
  Jeanne: Yeah, so I think that the gold here is that um, you know, you have done so much and been to so many countries.
• 5:08
  Jeanne: Can you tell us all the countries you've been to?
• 5:10
  Regina Huber: Oops.
• 5:11
  Regina Huber: I made a list once, and of course, you know, to some countries I've been to to travel for for fun, for vacation, and to other countries I've gone both for work and fun, and then in some other countries I've lived.
• 5:26
  Regina Huber: So the countries I've lived in, I'm maybe that's the easier part, first of all, are of course Germany.
• 5:32
  Regina Huber: I was born in Germany.
• 5:33
  Regina Huber: I lived in Germany until I was 26, and later I was back for a couple of years at some point, then I lived in Spain for seven years, then I did a lot of work in Portugal out of Spain.
• 5:45
  Regina Huber: So I traveled to Portugal weekly for quite a while.
• 5:49
  Regina Huber: That's when I had the chance to learn Portuguese, gladly, and then I lived in Brazil a couple of times, in Argentina a couple of times, and in the US also a couple of times.
• 6:01
  Regina Huber: So in Argentina and Brazil together, probably a total of nine years, and in the US more than that, but in two different occasions.
• 6:09
  Regina Huber: Right now I split my time between the US and France.
• 6:14
  Jeanne: Oh now France.
• 6:15
  Jeanne: We didn't have that one in there until the end.
• 6:19
  Regina Huber: And I just came back from Ivory Coast, by the way.
• 6:21
  Regina Huber: I love to travel, you know.
• 6:22
  Regina Huber: I used to travel a lot more in Latin America years back, and now recently I've traveled more in Africa.
• 6:29
  Regina Huber: So Ghana, Cameroon, South Africa a few times, spent several months there, in a month in Uganda, a month in Rwanda, a month in Zanzibar also.
• 6:39
  Regina Huber: And just recently I had the pleasure to get to know a little piece of Ivory Coast.
• 6:45
  Jeanne: Oh, very nice.
• 6:46
  Jeanne: So do you still speak Portuguese fluently?
• 6:49
  Regina Huber: Yeah, Portuguese I do speak fluently.
• 6:51
  Regina Huber: I my Portuguese is better than my definitely better than my than my French.
• 6:57
  Regina Huber: So in Spanish, uh definitely better than my French.
• 7:01
  Regina Huber: And then, you know, I learned Portuguese the European version first, and it's really very different from the Brazilian version of Portuguese, so that was a big change.
• 7:12
  Regina Huber: And now it's mostly Brazilian, but like this weird combination sometimes.
• 7:20
  Regina Huber: Where both you know, that's what happens when you mix up accents, but uh yeah.
• 7:26
  Jeanne: Yeah, that's very cool.
• 7:27
  Jeanne: I in high school we had an exchange student come and live with our family, and she was from Natal, Brazil.
• 7:34
  Regina Huber: Yeah.
• 7:34
  Jeanne: And her family was in the government doing I forgot, I used to know the title of her dad.
• 7:42
  Jeanne: But she came over on this program and didn't know any English at all.
• 7:47
  Jeanne: So they kind of glued her to me in school and everything.
• 7:50
  Jeanne: So she learned English with my accent, and the whole time, and she still probably did afterwards, she called blue jeans Jeanies because that's my name, Jeannie.
• 8:03
  Jeanne: So she would always go, I need to buy a pair of blue genies.
• 8:06
  Jeanne: And we so everything I said she imitated, but she was super intelligent, and we still have kept in touch over the years, all these years.
• 8:16
  Jeanne: It's so fun.
• 8:17
  Regina Huber: Yeah, Natal is a really beautiful place.
• 8:19
  Regina Huber: They have the sand dunes.
• 8:20
  Regina Huber: I've been there.
• 8:21
  Regina Huber: Oh, you have been there?
• 8:22
  Regina Huber: Yeah.
• 8:23
  Jeanne: Yeah.
• 8:23
  Jeanne: She would always talk about wanting to go to Rio, you know, want to go to Rio for a carnival.
• 8:28
  Jeanne: Yeah.
• 8:28
  Jeanne: And I'm in a little small town.
• 8:30
  Jeanne: My dad's a minister, right?
• 8:32
  Jeanne: And so her family's sending her all these magazines from Carnival with these ladies wearing it next to nothing.
• 8:37
  Jeanne: And they're like, What are you getting, preacher?
• 8:40
  Jeanne: It's hilarious because they their culture is so different, but such lovely people, her family, and and her daughter actually connected us back.
• 8:51
  Jeanne: She kept looking for me on Facebook and stuff, so I love them.
• 8:55
  Regina Huber: Yeah, I lived in Rio de Janeiro three and a half years.
• 8:58
  Regina Huber: I lived in Sao Paulo too, but yeah, Rio de Janeiro was three and a half years before New York.
• 9:03
  Jeanne: Yeah, is it as um you know, festival like uh I know they say carnival, but is it such a happy place?
• 9:10
  Jeanne: Because she kept talking about how much fun it was.
• 9:13
  Regina Huber: It is a lot of fun because there are actually like parties in all the parts of town, like in uh basically for months, right?
• 9:20
  Regina Huber: It starts in November, and uh we have all those parties uh with with life bands, small, big.
• 9:27
  Regina Huber: So there's Lapa, for example, that's the uh the nightlife area, and there's like those big parties, and then there are of course the official the official events at the San Bodromo, which you know I've only been for the rehearsals actually.
• 9:43
  Regina Huber: Oh well to those, but I'm I've been to all the other stuff, which is much more fun for me than to just sit there for hours to watch this.
• 9:51
  Regina Huber: But rehearsals are fun too, because you see the same thing, you don't pay.
• 9:56
  Regina Huber: I was invited to come in, and it's not as crowded, you know.
• 10:00
  Regina Huber: So yeah.
• 10:01
  Jeanne: Very nice.
• 10:02
  Jeanne: Well, so we're getting a big picture of you that you do know a lot about different cultures, that you do know uh different languages.
• 10:09
  Jeanne: That's just not your ordinary person.
• 10:12
  Regina Huber: Yeah, I used to dance a lot of the Brazilian dances.
• 10:15
  Regina Huber: I mean, I do the samba, but then also sambarigafiera, all the partner dances they do, and samba was one of my favorite partner dances.
• 10:22
  Regina Huber: It's very intricate, it's the hardest of all that I've ever learned in terms of partner dance, but it was so much fun.
• 10:30
  Regina Huber: Yeah, absolutely.
• 10:31
  Jeanne: Oh, okay.
• 10:32
  Jeanne: Well, I that's the kind of um place that the forbidden dance comes with it from you know the one that's all hip together as a partner dance.
• 10:41
  Jeanne: Yep.
• 10:42
  Jeanne: They have such happiness though.
• 10:44
  Jeanne: I when all the pictures she used to show me, it was just so like the spirit was really happy and the people were very positive.
• 10:51
  Jeanne: Well, anyway, just speaking of that, uh you speak about bold moves, and you've made some bold moves.
• 10:58
  Jeanne: So, what defines a bold move in your life, and how do you know when it's time to make one?
• 11:03
  Regina Huber: Yeah, I think one of them was definitely to move to Spain when I just learned Spanish.
• 11:08
  Regina Huber: And it just was an opportunity that crossed my path.
• 11:12
  Regina Huber: I've never had planned to move to Spain in my life before.
• 11:16
  Regina Huber: I've never been to Spain.
• 11:17
  Regina Huber: But a colleague told me about this opportunity, and I was actually looking for a different type of transfer somewhere else, but then that wasn't happening right away, so I said, Well, why not?
• 11:28
  Regina Huber: And then my colleague said, Well, I said to my colleague, this is how it worked, right?
• 11:33
  Regina Huber: I said to my colleague, well, I don't speak Spanish.
• 11:36
  Regina Huber: And then at the time, you know, the whole mindset around learning languages was different still.
• 11:42
  Regina Huber: You didn't just learn the language, right?
• 11:44
  Regina Huber: You know, you just either studied a language at school, uh They had all the verb tenses, all that.
• 11:50
  Regina Huber: Yeah, but that's not really true.
• 11:52
  Regina Huber: You can actually learn a language pretty fast.
• 11:55
  Regina Huber: So he said, Well, you can learn that.
• 11:57
  Regina Huber: And I said, You know what?
• 11:58
  Regina Huber: That's true.
• 11:58
  Regina Huber: And that's when they started.
• 12:00
  Regina Huber: So I was at BCG at the time, and they started paying for my classes.
• 12:05
  Regina Huber: I went uh for an interview in English, and they said, Okay, if you come back, or if you if we have uh another interview in three months uh in in in Spanish on the phone, then you can come.
• 12:17
  Regina Huber: And I said, Okay, I'm gonna do that.
• 12:19
  Regina Huber: So that's what happened, and that was one of them.
• 12:22
  Regina Huber: And then later, also, you know, many years later, I I uh I left my again.
• 12:29
  Regina Huber: BCG had hired me back by then, right?
• 12:32
  Regina Huber: I spent many years with them in different locations, but so I I had left the company after some point that they hired me back for the San Francisco office.
• 12:41
  Regina Huber: And after three and a half years in San Francisco, I said, you know what, it's it's just time for a move.
• 12:46
  Regina Huber: And sometimes we just have this feeling, right?
• 12:49
  Regina Huber: We know it's time.
• 12:50
  Regina Huber: And I just left everything behind and I packed up and I grabbed my money and I went to Argentina to open a bed and breakfast.
• 13:00
  Jeanne: Wow. That is a bold move.
• 13:03
  Regina Huber: Yeah, everybody was saying, Are you crazy?
• 13:05
  Regina Huber: It's just when it was just like when all those kidnappings happened in Argentina, a lot of a lot of rich people were moving away from Argentina.
• 13:14
  Regina Huber: And I remember clearly one of the partners who was from Buenos Aires, he had just moved to Miami, and he he said to me, Well, everybody's moving up here, and you're moving down there.
• 13:26
  Regina Huber: And I said, Well, uh I mean, I I wasn't even thinking of kidnappings or whatever.
• 13:31
  Regina Huber: Although a friend of mine actually had been in one too, in the city of Buenos Aires.
• 13:35
  Regina Huber: But you know, you I mean things can happen anywhere.
• 13:40
  Regina Huber: Like you see it, I was just a few miles, like two or three miles from home when this uh bike accident happened.
• 13:48
  Regina Huber: My dad had a m I had a fatal accident, uh also like three uh two miles from home or whatever it was, right?
• 13:56
  Regina Huber: So you never know.
• 13:57
  Regina Huber: You never know.
• 13:58
  Regina Huber: You know, I love adventure.
• 14:00
  Regina Huber: I just came back from my trip in Abery Coast, I was in Abijah, I was in uh Grand Bassam, and I just figured out somehow we can we can do it.
• 14:09
  Jeanne: Yeah, but you're enjoying life, that's great.
• 14:12
  Jeanne: And you're doing lots of things that are so interesting.
• 14:15
  Jeanne: You could do a whole show on just when you rent ran a bed and breakfast.
• 14:19
  Jeanne: I mean, that's gotta be stories.
• 14:21
  Jeanne: They make big shut TV shows out of that and all the murders that happen.
• 14:24
  Jeanne: I like all these crazy murder mysteries and British TV.
• 14:28
  Jeanne: So we'll have to talk about that another time.
• 14:31
  Jeanne: So many people hesitate when change feels risky.
• 14:35
  Jeanne: And what helped you develop the courage to reinvent yourself more than once?
• 14:40
  Regina Huber: Well, I think it's actually rather than a reinvention, sometimes it's a figuring out what's next for us and and who we really are.
• 14:49
  Regina Huber: It's like more like a next chapter because we will not lose what we had before, right?
• 14:54
  Regina Huber: It's not like we are becoming a new person.
• 14:57
  Regina Huber: We're becoming maybe more of who we already were because of those experiences.
• 15:03
  Regina Huber: And hopefully we use those experiences for our growth and not just to look back and regret, because that's not what they're for.
• 15:11
  Regina Huber: And yes, sometimes, you know, not everything is pleasant in life.
• 15:15
  Regina Huber: I also wrote my book, Living My Freaking Amazing Life, not just about the pleasant things, right?
• 15:20
  Regina Huber: It's about, yes, lots of amazing adventures, but also some pretty painful experiences.
• 15:27
  Regina Huber: And um, as long as we can look at them and and really just like this now, this accident.
• 15:34
  Regina Huber: I mean, there's something in it for me.
• 15:36
  Regina Huber: Something there must be, I'm still searching for it.
• 15:38
  Regina Huber: You know, and I'm I'm asking this question every day, and I've discovered a few little things, but I think there's something else that I've still not discovered.
• 15:51
  Regina Huber: So I will ask this question every single day until I find it.
• 15:54
  Regina Huber: And I think because in a way, I co-created the situation, right?
• 16:00
  Regina Huber: It yes, we say, Oh, it happened to me, but it actually, you know, we have a role in it, whether we want that or not.
• 16:08
  Regina Huber: And I think when we when we see it in that way, we can step out of the victim role and into a more self-empowering mindset and actually do something with that situation, right?
• 16:21
  Regina Huber: Whilst we're in it or right at the moment of the accident, well, it's not that easy to see that right away.
• 16:29
  Jeanne: Right.
• 16:29
  Jeanne: Well, I get where you're going with that, but I would say you were I say your role in that was you were innocently rough riding down the road.
• 16:37
  Jeanne: That was your role.
• 16:39
  Jeanne: Um, and you were there to allow this guy to hit you.
• 16:42
  Jeanne: I don't know.
• 16:42
  Jeanne: I can't find a really thing that you did wrong there, or what your role is here.
• 16:47
  Regina Huber: Yeah, it's not on this on a conscious level, right?
• 16:50
  Regina Huber: Uh, but something must have played in my subconscious that uh that's how I see it, right?
• 16:59
  Regina Huber: Oh, okay.
• 17:00
  Regina Huber: I know different people have different perspectives and it's all it's all fine.
• 17:04
  Jeanne: Yeah, and you also said something that was very, very interesting there.
• 17:09
  Jeanne: And you said it's not really reinventing yourself.
• 17:11
  Jeanne: I go through this question with myself all the time when I take on something new that I'm doing and I have a lot on my plate already, but I keep taking on something new.
• 17:19
  Jeanne: I think it's just an extension of yourself, it's not really uh reinventing or trying to change your life.
• 17:26
  Jeanne: Because you're right, it's just you know, you don't lose what you know.
• 17:31
  Jeanne: So if I know how to play the piano and I keep playing the piano, and then I go on and play another instrument, the scales are still the same.
• 17:40
  Jeanne: And uh, you know, the chords are different because you've got four strings or you've got a huge piano harp.
• 17:46
  Jeanne: Uh so it's the same, but you just you know extend yourself to something new or out reach out to something new.
• 17:54
  Jeanne: So I love the way you put that.
• 17:55
  Jeanne: That's great.
• 17:56
  Regina Huber: Yeah, and I also really, really like this example, uh, the the the instrument, the musical instrument analogy a lot, because the same applies to dance, and I love to dance.
• 18:08
  Jeanne: And that was my that's my next question.
• 18:10
  Jeanne: I want to know, because you integrate embodiment and even dance into your leadership work.
• 18:16
  Jeanne: So, how does movement influence presence and confidence?
• 18:20
  Regina Huber: Yeah, it's the movement, but it's not just the movement, it's the posture, it's how you use your energy.
• 18:26
  Regina Huber: You know, we talk so little about energy.
• 18:28
  Regina Huber: Of course, when we think about presence, we do think about posture, about body language, right?
• 18:35
  Regina Huber: But what flows into all of this is our energy.
• 18:38
  Regina Huber: And in dance, what we use a lot and a lot more consciously than usually when we go about our life is our energy.
• 18:46
  Regina Huber: Even though we might not be aware of it, even in though, you know, we might not think of it in that way, we're still using our energy in in a more conscious way than if we don't dance, for example.
• 18:59
  Regina Huber: Because why?
• 19:00
  Regina Huber: Because, for example, in partner dance, right?
• 19:03
  Regina Huber: If I cannot read the energy of the other person, then I cannot follow that person.
• 19:09
  Regina Huber: If I cannot read the intention in a dance that's this fast as sambadi gaffira, it's it's I mean, there are slow sambadigafira rhythms too, there are depending on on the on the music, right?
• 19:22
  Regina Huber: But but it can be so fast that you cannot just you can think about it, right?
• 19:26
  Regina Huber: Also in the other dances, by the way, but that's one of the more extreme examples.
• 19:30
  Regina Huber: So if I cannot read that energy, then I will not be able to if I cannot be present with that energy of my partner, I cannot follow them.
• 19:39
  Regina Huber: And if they cannot be present as a leader of my follower energy, then they cannot lead me because we don't give instructions verbally when we dance together, right?
• 19:53
  Regina Huber: That doesn't work.
• 19:54
  Regina Huber: So it's all about intention, about energy.
• 19:57
  Regina Huber: Yes, it's also about the body, of course, the body movement, the steps, but it's actually the least about the steps.
• 20:04
  Regina Huber: You can move with your entire body, you can dance with your entire body without making a single step with a partner, right?
• 20:11
  Regina Huber: So, and then of course, in when you dance by yourself also, you need to know how to use your energy.
• 20:17
  Regina Huber: I do also now I a few a couple uh years back, I started sabbar dancing, that's a Senegalese dance, that's very much jumping and joy in the air.
• 20:30
  Regina Huber: Well, you need to sometimes know how to how to use your energy to actually get it right.
• 20:36
  Regina Huber: You know, it's not just about the body itself, about the limbs or whatever.
• 20:41
  Regina Huber: And the same also for Dombolo, this is one one of my favorite dances, Congolese and Dongbolo, it's related to the Congolese or rumba.
• 20:50
  Regina Huber: So these are dances that are very intricate, also when you dance by yourself, right?
• 20:57
  Regina Huber: And if you don't use your energy properly, then you get it it first of all, you get exhausted faster, and then you can hurt yourself more easily, and all these things.
• 21:10
  Regina Huber: So I think it teaches us so dance teaches me so much about so many things.
• 21:15
  Regina Huber: It's about energy, about nonverbal communication, about teamwork.
• 21:20
  Regina Huber: You know, we we talk about dance ensembles, groups that dance together.
• 21:25
  Regina Huber: Ensemble in French means together, right?
• 21:28
  Regina Huber: So we're really dancing together.
• 21:31
  Regina Huber: I've also done aerial movements.
• 21:34
  Regina Huber: If you don't trust that person, you cannot do it, you know.
• 21:38
  Regina Huber: And though it's also about trust, it's about a thousand things.
• 21:41
  Regina Huber: And I've written a few articles about this because yeah, and then of course, yes, it is about presence and especially about leader presence because you need to build that trust that you need to build in dance, you need to be able to read energy, and you need to be able to manage your own energy and to opt.
• 21:59
  Regina Huber: Optimize your energy so that you can create trust.
• 22:03
  Jeanne: Nice.
• 22:04
  Jeanne: I'm sitting here thinking about people, children now in elementary school all the way up through high school, they don't get a lot of dance.
• 22:13
  Jeanne: They're just not dance taught, you know, but they do.
• 22:16
  Jeanne: I guess you could be a cheerleader.
• 22:18
  Jeanne: That's got a lot of that movement and energy that you need, but not the same.
• 22:22
  Jeanne: Wonder why people don't see the value in this focus and this movement and this interpersonal connectivity that you need to have with people, and you can get that through learning dance.
• 22:34
  Jeanne: I don't know.
• 22:36
  Regina Huber: Yes, I've always wondered about this because I would have loved to have it myself, you know.
• 22:40
  Regina Huber: And actually, when I lived in Harlem, and and I still am there often, there are some schools where because I know this because I was in those schools because I took some like West African dance classes or such, you know, in the neighborhood, and there were actually dance and theater classes in those places.
• 22:58
  Regina Huber: I saw the posters, I saw those activities, right?
• 23:01
  Regina Huber: But we did not have that.
• 23:02
  Regina Huber: I've also written articles, by the way, about what we should add to education, what should be different.
• 23:10
  Regina Huber: So I have very strong opinions about these topics, and I appreciate those questions, uh, Jean, because they are very important questions.
• 23:18
  Regina Huber: So why is this not part of most curricula, right?
• 23:24
  Regina Huber: It should be it could be optional.
• 23:26
  Regina Huber: I don't think we need to force children to do activities they don't want to do.
• 23:32
  Regina Huber: You know, if they don't want to dance, well, they can do something else for movement, right?
• 23:37
  Regina Huber: Also, we could offer yoga, we could offer uh Tai Chi.
• 23:43
  Regina Huber: I mean, there's so many great options that we don't get.
• 23:46
  Regina Huber: Instead, everything at school is just competitive because we're being prepared for the system and to compete in the system instead of really focusing on what's special about us, and nobody's special in that sense, but unique, right?
• 24:01
  Regina Huber: In the in a sense of unique.
• 24:02
  Regina Huber: What's unique about us and what should be promoted in ourselves, what's our essence, what is our what are our unique talents and skills?
• 24:12
  Regina Huber: That is not really promoted or you know, or asked for.
• 24:17
  Regina Huber: It's always like repeat what we're saying, do this, do that, you don't have a choice, right?
• 24:23
  Regina Huber: So I think a lot would need to be changed, but it tells you a lot that the school system hasn't really changed much in many, many decades of what the intention of it is, frankly.
• 24:36
  Regina Huber: So we don't need to go into those details.
• 24:37
  Jeanne: But yeah, exactly.
• 24:38
  Jeanne: We could talk about got a lot of conversations.
• 24:41
  Jeanne: We could come back when you come back to the show.
• 24:43
  Jeanne: Like really, but I I do want to say this.
• 24:46
  Jeanne: I know my husband is um I say this on almost all my shows because I love him to death.
• 24:51
  Jeanne: I keep throwing him into the conversation.
• 24:53
  Jeanne: But he's from Sweden, born and raised, but he's a Danish citizen.
• 24:56
  Jeanne: But he told me that when they were in school, if they wanted to take guitar, they could.
• 25:00
  Jeanne: I was like, what?
• 25:01
  Jeanne: Nobody would let us do that.
• 25:03
  Jeanne: It's parents going to uh try to find somebody to teach you these dance or music or whatever.
• 25:12
  Jeanne: I mean, you could be in the band, of course, that's good.
• 25:14
  Jeanne: And I was in that.
• 25:16
  Jeanne: And you could be in the chorus, you could sing, but they didn't have a lot of those things, extra things.
• 25:21
  Jeanne: The other things you would do in school would be um sports like track or you know, just a competitive sport.
• 25:27
  Jeanne: Like you said, all competition.
• 25:29
  Jeanne: Even band was competition.
• 25:31
  Jeanne: You had to go in and um audition for your chair.
• 25:34
  Jeanne: Like if you had learned and practiced more, you could be first chair versus out the door.
• 25:42
  Regina Huber: Right.
• 25:42
  Regina Huber: And I actually, you know, I'm so much about movement teen.
• 25:46
  Regina Huber: And I hated sports class because I was not good at the stuff we had to do.
• 25:52
  Regina Huber: You know, I wasn't I would have liked ball games actually, but because it was competitive and I wasn't good at it, I also didn't like being picked last for a ball game, you know?
• 26:03
  Regina Huber: And that's how we learn rejection and fear of rejection, actually.
• 26:06
  Regina Huber: So it's definitely something to think about.
• 26:09
  Jeanne: Yeah, absolutely.
• 26:10
  Jeanne: And that works us to our next question.
• 26:12
  Jeanne: Like you work with high-level leaders and entrepreneurs.
• 26:15
  Jeanne: So what is one blind spot you see consistently even among successful people?
• 26:21
  Regina Huber: To not take enough care of themselves and to not honor themselves enough, I would say, you know, because I mean, you know, some people are into fitness and all that, that's all great, but that's not everything.
• 26:35
  Regina Huber: Also, healthy nutrition is important, but that's not everything.
• 26:39
  Regina Huber: I think, especially as an entrepreneur, what we forget about sometimes is we take all those strategies and we are also coached, right?
• 26:49
  Regina Huber: And I've paid a lot of money for coaching that hasn't really worked for me because I didn't always honor who I really was in the whole game.
• 26:57
  Regina Huber: And that's how I spent a lot of dollars on coaching that really did nothing for me.
• 27:05
  Regina Huber: And it wasn't because necessarily it was bad or because the strategy wouldn't work for others, it was just not right for me.
• 27:12
  Regina Huber: And I think that's really important to notice that we find the right people to work with and that they ask us, you know, that we ask a lot of questions, but then also pay attention to the questions we are asked.
• 27:24
  Regina Huber: So to see whether that's really a good fit.
• 27:27
  Regina Huber: But that's just an example, right?
• 27:29
  Regina Huber: So I think honoring yourself in in leadership, first of all, has to do a lot with authenticity, and there's a lot of talk about authenticity all the time.
• 27:40
  Regina Huber: So, you know, what is that really?
• 27:42
  Regina Huber: Are you honoring yourself?
• 27:44
  Regina Huber: And then also not forgetting about the rest of your life because life is a holistic phenomenon.
• 27:51
  Regina Huber: You might have built a great career, uh beautiful, you know, whatever, or even a great business.
• 27:58
  Regina Huber: But if the rest is not aligned with what you really desire, then something's off.
• 28:05
  Jeanne: That's absolutely true.
• 28:06
  Jeanne: And I think about all the people that have these careers, they're focused, focus, focus on the career.
• 28:11
  Jeanne: There's a lot of education involved, like say, for instance, a doctor.
• 28:15
  Jeanne: But that person is just multidimensional, um, but they get burned out because they have so many things to have to think about and focus on.
• 28:24
  Jeanne: They may not honor themselves, like you said.
• 28:28
  Jeanne: They don't go back and say, How do I re-energize myself?
• 28:32
  Jeanne: I think that's where you might be going to.
• 28:35
  Jeanne: How do you re-energize yourself and how do you honor yourself?
• 28:38
  Jeanne: Because you're all about energy and movement.
• 28:40
  Jeanne: So if it just felt like you were going there.
• 28:44
  Regina Huber: Yeah, you hit the nail on the head, uh, Jean, with that, because I actually I talk about this also.
• 28:49
  Regina Huber: I created a brand new page, uh, which is you know, my my website is transformeperformance.com.
• 28:55
  Regina Huber: So that new page is transformeperformance.com forward slash success.
• 28:59
  Regina Huber: Now what?
• 29:00
  Regina Huber: Uh because I have seen that a lot in the people I've worked with.
• 29:05
  Regina Huber: And it's exactly that what you just said, like re-energize.
• 29:09
  Regina Huber: And you can do that in so in in different ways.
• 29:11
  Regina Huber: It's re-energizing isn't always about fitness, it's about many things, many different ways.
• 29:16
  Regina Huber: And for everybody, it's different.
• 29:18
  Regina Huber: And I wanted to offer something that is a little bit more focused on this area.
• 29:23
  Jeanne: Yeah.
• 29:24
  Jeanne: Yeah, that would be great to help people to learn how to do that.
• 29:27
  Jeanne: I mean, I had a traumatic experience in the past few weeks, so I don't want to go into that here, but um I've learned to take that time and breathe.
• 29:36
  Jeanne: And right now, and I mentioned this on my last recording because I guess because I'm in that mode right now, but I'm re-energizing myself by watching this crazy monkey on YouTube called Punch in a Japanese.
• 29:51
  Jeanne: Um his name is Punchy Con or whatever in a Japanese zoo over there, because he was a rejected little monkey, and then he's bounced back, and the everybody's like helping him.
• 30:02
  Jeanne: But I re-energize myself by looking at other inspirational things around me, and especially I gravitate toward animals, pets.
• 30:13
  Jeanne: You know, I have have another channel I watch of just little pets like chickens, hens, rabbits, uh, roosters, uh cats, dogs, all hanging out together and sleeping together and having kittens.
• 30:26
  Regina Huber: Yeah.
• 30:27
  Regina Huber: I grew up on a farm gene.
• 30:28
  Regina Huber: Oh, really?
• 30:29
  Regina Huber: Uh really it's really beautiful, you know, to grow up around animals.
• 30:35
  Jeanne: Well, I've always had pets in my life, but I and I was in a farm community, but I I didn't live on a farm.
• 30:41
  Jeanne: I visited a lot of farms, but yeah, I don't know.
• 30:45
  Jeanne: That's how I re-energize myself.
• 30:46
  Jeanne: It's kind of silly.
• 30:48
  Jeanne: I tell my husband what I'm watching, he says, like, what are you 12?
• 30:52
  Jeanne: But uh I don't know.
• 30:54
  Jeanne: It takes me back, and then I just want to just feel that love of these the animals show no animosity, so I just re-energize myself by watching how loving they are to each other and caring for each other.
• 31:07
  Regina Huber: So yeah, whatever works first of all, and then you know what?
• 31:11
  Regina Huber: Uh yeah, dogs and cats and they they sense everything.
• 31:16
  Regina Huber: I was taking care of uh of a neighbor's dog for a while, and I was injured at the time too, actually.
• 31:21
  Regina Huber: And he's so caring, this dog.
• 31:24
  Regina Huber: I mean, he would sleep by my side, he would wake me up in the morning, you know, just see if I was alright.
• 31:31
  Regina Huber: And they're so sensitive.
• 31:33
  Jeanne: They are definitely.
• 31:34
  Jeanne: Yeah, my sister, I had a dog, he's passed away, but um my sister had a lot of issues during COVID that she was dealing with, and um, she came to visit me, and when she walked in the door, she was just exhausted and she looked like she needed to sleep for a week.
• 31:52
  Jeanne: And so my dog just went with her.
• 31:54
  Jeanne: And when she left, she was in love with that dog, and she said, This dog re-energized me, and you know, I feel like this was the right place for me to be.
• 32:06
  Jeanne: That's really off topic, but no, it's very true.
• 32:10
  Regina Huber: It's so important to it's I I don't think it's off topic, actually, because it's uh it's another way of taking care for yourself.
• 32:17
  Jeanne: Yeah.
• 32:17
  Jeanne: And every time she came back to visit me after that, this dog would leap in the air that she came.
• 32:22
  Jeanne: Like he would show her how much he really appreciated her, and then she would just cry.
• 32:28
  Jeanne: It was like, oh, I love this dog.
• 32:30
  Jeanne: So it's really sweet.
• 32:32
  Jeanne: But I hope people can learn and maybe connect with you and learn how to re-energize themselves.
• 32:38
  Jeanne: I had one more question, and then we want to go to our Two Truths and a Lie.
• 32:42
  Jeanne: So during your biggest transitions, what grounded you?
• 32:46
  Jeanne: And if someone listening knows they may need to make a bold move but feels the fear of it, what's your first step you would advise them to take?
• 32:55
  Regina Huber: I mean, apart from dancing.
• 32:56
  Regina Huber: Yeah, I would you mentioned breathing already, and everybody knows we we should be doing it, right?
• 33:03
  Regina Huber: And then we don't do it.
• 33:04
  Regina Huber: But it's also for me, it's also sitting with myself and connecting with my inner power.
• 33:12
  Regina Huber: And uh I have a specific method that I like for that, just really closing my eyes, inhaling deeply and exhaling deeply, so deep inhales and exhales, and then just really focusing on my solar plexus area.
• 33:28
  Regina Huber: And that's where I can most easily connect with that inner power.
• 33:33
  Regina Huber: Maybe for other people is different in a different place, but for me it's there.
• 33:37
  Regina Huber: Sometimes I place a hand on it, and I just really remind myself that we are all full of limitless power.
• 33:47
  Regina Huber: So we we're, you know, we're not really limited, and then really feel into that power and know this.
• 33:55
  Regina Huber: So it's that knowingness.
• 33:57
  Regina Huber: But it takes a little time sometimes or a few seconds to really get to that point, right?
• 34:02
  Regina Huber: And that's when we can it's not so much about gr I don't know if it's grounding, but it's really more like okay, this uh coming back to what and who we really are, which is that essence that we all have, which is really consciousness, and consciousness is unlimited.
• 34:24
  Jeanne: Yeah, that's true.
• 34:24
  Jeanne: That's something I uh you put that into words in a way that I hadn't thought about before.
• 34:31
  Jeanne: It is unlimited.
• 34:33
  Jeanne: I don't know, your mind can take you anywhere you want to go.
• 34:36
  Jeanne: Yeah, absolutely.
• 34:37
  Jeanne: Well, what other things would you like to say before we transition to two truths and a lie?
• 34:43
  Regina Huber: Well, what else would I like to share?
• 34:45
  Regina Huber: One one thing that I like to say a lot is no one can empower you but yourself.
• 34:51
  Regina Huber: You're always the one that needs to empower yourself because this myth about empowering other people that uh doesn't really work.
• 35:00
  Regina Huber: And then, you know, I don't know if I I know you had mentioned something about a quote.
• 35:07
  Regina Huber: Is that also what I'm sharing?
• 35:10
  Jeanne: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 35:11
  Jeanne: We'll get we can get to that quote a little later, but you can share it now if you'd want to.
• 35:16
  Regina Huber: Oh, we can do that later.
• 35:17
  Regina Huber: I was just not because we haven't really talked about any of the other questions, but we I know I remember that you said something about a quote, so that's why I yeah, yeah, that's true.
• 35:27
  Jeanne: So um you're talking about you need to empower yourself.
• 35:31
  Jeanne: I I used to laugh at with my kids and say, you know, people talk about this all the time.
• 35:35
  Jeanne: I I know there's some famous quotes about it and everything, but I used to tell them, you know, you can't get away from yourself, you better like yourself because they were always so upset with how they performed in school or what they look like or whatever.
• 35:47
  Jeanne: I'm like, hey, you better love yourself because it's only you.
• 35:50
  Jeanne: You can't get away from you, no matter what you do.
• 35:55
  Jeanne: Yeah.
• 35:56
  Jeanne: So let's transition to two truths and a lie.
• 35:58
  Jeanne: So for those listening in, Regina has provided me with three headlines, and then we're gonna share those three headlines from her life.
• 36:09
  Jeanne: Uh, two are true, one is not, and I'm gonna try to guess which one is the lie, but we won't tell you.
• 36:16
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• 36:20
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• 36:22
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• 36:29
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• 37:31
  Jeanne: So, Regina, here's your three headlines.
• 37:38
  Jeanne: At 16, Regina hitchhiked from her home in Bavaria to Amsterdam with a friend.
• 37:45
  Jeanne: Number two, Regina once had a gun pressed to her head and still walked away with cash in her pockets.
• 37:52
  Jeanne: Headline number two.
• 37:53
  Jeanne: Number three, after training weeks, months, and years for a marathon, Regina quit a week before her target race day.
• 38:02
  Jeanne: Those are all really wild headlines.
• 38:06
  Jeanne: Uh, I'm gonna guess that you uh hopefully number two is a lie, but don't tell me yet because you're gonna go through these stories, because I would hate to think that you had a gun pressed to your head.
• 38:18
  Jeanne: So starting with number one, hitchhiking.
• 38:22
  Jeanne: That's also a no-no for parents.
• 38:24
  Jeanne: So how old are you?
• 38:25
  Jeanne: And what oh, 16 it says.
• 38:27
  Jeanne: Oh, so what happened?
• 38:29
  Regina Huber: Yeah, so it was during spring break, and my 18-year-old friend that I was with, who was also pregnant at the time, and I decided we wanted to hitchhike from our town and ferry all the way to Amsterdam in the Netherlands.
• 38:45
  Regina Huber: So we packed our backpacks and we set out on a rainy day in the middle of nowhere, just standing next to the road.
• 38:54
  Regina Huber: And our first milestone was really to get to near the near the autobahn, the highway, right?
• 38:59
  Regina Huber: So there we we would have several stops at once on the highway, we'd we'd have several stops at motorway service areas where we sometimes needed to change vehicles as nobody would go directly to Amsterdam.
• 39:15
  Regina Huber: We didn't have like you know uh one through.
• 39:18
  Regina Huber: So we mostly at the time traveled on trucks, and uh in one of them we also slept as it got late that day.
• 39:26
  Regina Huber: You know, we didn't always get away right away, so sometimes we were standing there for a while, and eventually we arrived in Amsterdam the next day in the morning.
• 39:37
  Regina Huber: We had about five or six days total for this trip, and we we spent about half of that on the road.
• 39:45
  Regina Huber: No mobile phones at the time, of course.
• 39:48
  Regina Huber: You know, it was a while ago, so we needed to exchange money to call home from a public phone booth and let our parents know that we had arrived.
• 39:57
  Regina Huber: And uh yeah, so we visited some parts of Amsterdam, a few museums, of art museums and whatnot, and then eventually headed back home in the same way.
• 40:09
  Jeanne: Oh wow.
• 40:10
  Jeanne: How do you go to the Audubon and hitchhike?
• 40:12
  Jeanne: I mean, these people are zooming by.
• 40:14
  Jeanne: That's the fastest highway in the world, I think.
• 40:17
  Jeanne: Yeah, and what are you doing?
• 40:19
  Jeanne: Like, you can't even stick your hand out, they're gone already.
• 40:25
  Regina Huber: So we had to get near first, like to the entry, right?
• 40:30
  Regina Huber: Or exit while usually one of the exits, okay.
• 40:33
  Regina Huber: And then we like just before you go in, somebody had to stop for you, and then uh at the uh service stations, you can then look for the next person to go with.
• 40:46
  Regina Huber: You know, we were we were would walk along the tracks and see who would go in that direction.
• 40:52
  Regina Huber: Just ask.
• 40:52
  Jeanne: Oh, and your pregnant friend, she didn't have the baby on the trip, right?
• 40:57
  Jeanne: Okay, very good.
• 40:59
  Jeanne: Uh, all right, so I don't know, that might be a lie, but I'm not sure.
• 41:03
  Jeanne: You know a lot about it.
• 41:05
  Jeanne: So, what about number two in the gun?
• 41:07
  Regina Huber: Yeah.
• 41:08
  Regina Huber: So this was while I was living in Mario de Janeiro, right?
• 41:12
  Regina Huber: So I was pretty well adapted to myself, like I'd had some interesting experiences, but I was doing my best to always keep a low profile whenever moving money around in the city, like when withdrawing money from ATM or exchanging money, whatever.
• 41:27
  Regina Huber: And I was always taking precautions, and I knew very well how to move around in some parts of the city, certainly not all, but you know, I'd been to Favelas, I'd been to the northern part of the city, like for dance nights out, coming back on my own, on a van, those privately owned minibuses that complement the service of the larger buses in Rio.
• 41:49
  Regina Huber: And that alone was actually quite an adventure, always like at 3 a.m.
• 41:54
  Regina Huber: in the morning.
• 41:55
  Regina Huber: But anyway, in this occasion, here I was.
• 41:58
  Regina Huber: I was with a friend visiting from Germany, and she had brought all that money for her vacation in cash.
• 42:06
  Regina Huber: So we needed to get those Euros exchanged.
• 42:10
  Regina Huber: Was it even Euros at the time?
• 42:11
  Regina Huber: Yes, it was already Euros.
• 42:13
  Regina Huber: And there was no bank uh nearby that would do that.
• 42:17
  Regina Huber: I lived in Flamengo, uh near Flamengo Beach at the time, so we took a bus over to Botafogo Beach, which seemed to be the closest for this purpose.
• 42:27
  Regina Huber: And there was a big bank there that that did exchanges.
• 42:31
  Regina Huber: I think it was uh Banco do Brasil.
• 42:33
  Regina Huber: I think it was.
• 42:35
  Regina Huber: So we went in.
• 42:36
  Regina Huber: You have to hand your passport over to them to make a copy, right, so that they exchange the money, blah, blah, blah.
• 42:44
  Regina Huber: And that part took us suspiciously long already.
• 42:48
  Regina Huber: Anyway, on our way out, we were gonna go to a restaurant, nearby restaurant with a garden where we wanted to have lunch.
• 42:55
  Regina Huber: And my friend really liked that place.
• 42:57
  Regina Huber: We had just walked by before, so that was our next destination.
• 43:01
  Regina Huber: And as we were leaving the bank, I told my friend to pass me half the money.
• 43:05
  Regina Huber: So we had about, I don't know, 2,500 euros, whatever.
• 43:08
  Regina Huber: So I grabbed half of that and uh put it in my jeans pockets, and I and she put the rest in her crossover back, right?
• 43:16
  Regina Huber: So I told her that we should not take a cab just outside the bank because that was risky.
• 43:22
  Regina Huber: So we started walking on the sidewalk.
• 43:24
  Regina Huber: Also, the restaurant was nearby, so I suggested we just walk into a building, into the building of the restaurant right away, because the restaurant was literally on the other side of a building.
• 43:34
  Jeanne: Okay.
• 43:35
  Regina Huber: And but my friend said, No, no, no, no, I want to walk around.
• 43:38
  Regina Huber: I want to walk in through the garden.
• 43:40
  Regina Huber: I said, Okay, you're the tourist, I'm gonna, you know, it's your money.
• 43:42
  Regina Huber: So we walked around the block to the other side of the building, said and done.
• 43:48
  Regina Huber: We were just about to walk into the garden area, and my friend had just stepped in, she was already inside when two guys on a motorcycle came rushing.
• 43:56
  Regina Huber: It was so fast, I hadn't even noticed them.
• 43:59
  Regina Huber: And one of them just And held a gun to my head, and he said, Give me the money now.
• 44:03
  Regina Huber: Now, and I gladly that very day, and look, I never did this in RIA, always used crossover back.
• 44:10
  Regina Huber: That very day, I was using a clutch back for a change.
• 44:14
  Regina Huber: Never did that usually.
• 44:16
  Regina Huber: So all I did, I just I just threw that back.
• 44:19
  Regina Huber: I can't do it with my left arm, can do that today with my but I I threw that the bag at him basically.
• 44:27
  Regina Huber: Well, yes, it had my keys, about 50 reais at the time, which was about $40 or whatever.
• 44:32
  Regina Huber: A book and my phone.
• 44:33
  Regina Huber: Okay.
• 44:34
  Regina Huber: It wasn't like a smartphone yet, it was like, you know, whatever.
• 44:38
  Regina Huber: But so all the other money was in my jeans pockets.
• 44:42
  Jeanne: Oh, that's good.
• 44:44
  Regina Huber: So I did not give him that money, and uh, because I had that clutch back on me, I it was just a reflex, and I really could do this without thinking about it.
• 44:54
  Regina Huber: And all of that happened where while there was an orange guard standing literally in front of us inside, just a few feet away on the other side of the garden, he did nothing.
• 45:03
  Regina Huber: So either he was afraid or he was in on it.
• 45:06
  Regina Huber: I don't know.
• 45:06
  Regina Huber: Two this day.
• 45:08
  Regina Huber: Did you ever get your clutch bag back with any of your stuff in it?
• 45:11
  Regina Huber: No, no, no, no, no.
• 45:12
  Regina Huber: Oh my gosh.
• 45:13
  Regina Huber: We went to the police station, we reported everything.
• 45:16
  Regina Huber: That alone was a very interesting experience with the officer like taking like 30 minutes to type five lines.
• 45:22
  Regina Huber: I mean, we were in there for hours and nothing came from it.
• 45:25
  Jeanne: He wasn't trying to type it in another language, was he?
• 45:29
  Regina Huber: Yeah.
• 45:29
  Regina Huber: And uh I think frankly, after I after reflecting on it, they were all somehow in on it.
• 45:35
  Regina Huber: But anyway, we both came out alive and with the money still in our pockets.
• 45:39
  Regina Huber: A few thousand euros, and you know, there was security at my building, so
• 45:44
  Jeanne: But your keys are gone.
• 45:45
  Jeanne: Your phone was gone.
• 45:47
  Regina Huber: I know, I had to re I had to make copies, but there gladly there was a security booth at my building, you know?
• 45:54
  Regina Huber: So and plus that my address was not in my in my bag.
• 46:00
  Jeanne: Oh, that's good, that's good.
• 46:01
  Regina Huber: I could get copies of the keys.
• 46:03
  Regina Huber: My friend paid for my new phone for my because it was she said, no, I I didn't want to walk through the building, you were right.
• 46:11
  Jeanne: Yeah, that she probably regretted that.
• 46:14
  Jeanne: What about the uh training for a marathon, and then you quit?
• 46:19
  Regina Huber: So yeah, as I said, you know, in school I hated sports class, but then I said, well, I wanted to, you know, just do it because of that at some point in my life.
• 46:31
  Regina Huber: So I started training, although running was never my thing.
• 46:34
  Regina Huber: I started training for a marathon, and I did quit uh a week before race day, or was it a week?
• 46:42
  Regina Huber: Uh yeah, it was uh it was about a week, you know, maybe not exactly seven days, but anyway.
• 46:46
  Regina Huber: So the funny part is it didn't even start in a dramatic way.
• 46:50
  Regina Huber: So I it wasn't that I had some emotional breakthrough or whatever to do this, or to even quit at the time.
• 46:58
  Regina Huber: So I don't I don't even know what happened in my mind.
• 47:00
  Regina Huber: So I just saw something online back then, and it was in a group that I participated in for another event, and I probably saw it late at night, even and I just went, huh?
• 47:12
  Regina Huber: That could be me.
• 47:13
  Regina Huber: Why not, right?
• 47:14
  Regina Huber: Just let's just do it.
• 47:15
  Regina Huber: So I just registered.
• 47:17
  Regina Huber: And maybe I had a glass of wine before.
• 47:21
  Regina Huber: I don't know.
• 47:22
  Regina Huber: I don't know why I even did this.
• 47:24
  Regina Huber: Okay.
• 47:25
  Regina Huber: So next thing I know, I'm signed up, and just out of the blue and a little overconfident, I started training.
• 47:32
  Regina Huber: And I was pretty fit at the time because I I'd done lots of high-energy dance classes, really, you know, lots of cardio, lots of walking, some yoga along the way.
• 47:44
  Regina Huber: And running had never really been my thing, but I said, okay, with a little bit of extra motivation, I can do this, right?
• 47:51
  Regina Huber: And I thought also that this might finally get me into running in Central Park on a regular basis, because I literally lived next to Central Park at the time, and I had tried a couple of times, but without having like some type of a motivator, I didn't really care, right?
• 48:09
  Regina Huber: So when I started training this time at the beginning, it actually felt kind of good because I had that motivation rush and I had the team, so I was talking to the team, and suddenly I almost also was somebody who runs, right?
• 48:25
  Regina Huber: It was like something I bought a running outfit, great shoes, blah blah blah.
• 48:33
  Regina Huber: And um, I would say these things like, Oh, I can't stay out too late.
• 48:37
  Jeanne: Yeah, gotta be cute when you're running.
• 48:39
  Regina Huber: Right, exactly.
• 48:40
  Regina Huber: And then I would say these things like, Oh, I can't stay out too late.
• 48:42
  Regina Huber: I have to run tomorrow.
• 48:43
  Regina Huber: You were cool.
• 48:47
  Regina Huber: Yeah, and I, you know, now I can hear how ridiculous that sounded.
• 48:53
  Regina Huber: But but you know, after a few weeks, the the reality hit.
• 49:00
  Regina Huber: Actually, not a few weeks, it was months, right?
• 49:03
  Regina Huber: And I wasn't really enjoying this, and my brain was going like, okay, why am I doing this again?
• 49:10
  Regina Huber: So the race week shows up, and suddenly people start asking about it.
• 49:17
  Regina Huber: What time is the race?
• 49:18
  Regina Huber: Where is it?
• 49:18
  Regina Huber: Should we come to watch?
• 49:20
  Regina Huber: And that's when it really hit me.
• 49:21
  Regina Huber: Up until then, I I just I was just this future, you know.
• 49:25
  Regina Huber: It was this future thing out there, this thing I was training toward, but now it was the reality.
• 49:31
  Regina Huber: And I thought, do I really want to do this, right?
• 49:34
  Regina Huber: Do I really want to show up and do the whole thing?
• 49:37
  Regina Huber: Why am I doing this to to to prove what to who?
• 49:41
  Regina Huber: And I suddenly realized that I wasn't excited anymore at all.
• 49:46
  Regina Huber: It was just not for me.
• 49:48
  Regina Huber: I wasn't into this marathon thing, and uh I wasn't even behind the whole philosophy of it.
• 49:54
  Regina Huber: Um I wasn't even into running, right?
• 49:57
  Regina Huber: And so that's when I decided to quit because it no longer felt true to myself, and it didn't feel authentic.
• 50:04
  Regina Huber: So yeah, that was it about running for me and for the rest of my life, I guess.
• 50:09
  Jeanne: Yeah, I think I think that's a good story because a lot of people would think, oh, I can't quit.
• 50:14
  Jeanne: I have to do it because now I signed up, and but I just really hate it and it wasn't for me, and it was like on a could have been on a day or could have been a drink, you know.
• 50:24
  Jeanne: You didn't know exactly why you signed up.
• 50:26
  Jeanne: So it's good to know when to cut your losses and say, Yeah, I could do it if I wanted to, but it's not what I want to do, and then move on.
• 50:33
  Jeanne: So that's cool.
• 50:34
  Jeanne: All right, so I guess number two.
• 50:36
  Jeanne: So are you gonna reveal which one it was?
• 50:39
  Jeanne: Number three is a lie.
• 50:41
  Jeanne: Ah that was such a good story, though.
• 50:44
  Jeanne: I mean, you gave us so many good details.
• 50:47
  Jeanne: Oh, good job.
• 50:48
  Jeanne: Good job.
• 50:49
  Jeanne: Because I yeah, I thought you really did that.
• 50:54
  Regina Huber: The reason why I came up with this idea was really because I helped out at a marathon one.
• 51:00
  Jeanne: Oh, gotcha, gotcha.
• 51:01
  Jeanne: Okay.
• 51:02
  Jeanne: Well, hey, Regina, it's been so wonderful to have you on the show.
• 51:06
  Jeanne: I know people really want to know how to get in touch with you, so I'm gonna share my screen again and then let them know how they can contact you.
• 51:14
  Jeanne: And here's where your quote is.
• 51:16
  Regina Huber: Yeah, uncertainty and chaos aren't something to avoid.
• 51:20
  Regina Huber: It's where freedom lives and possibilities multiply.
• 51:24
  Regina Huber: Well, yes, I believe that certainty is limitation, it doesn't really exist anyway, it's just an illusion, but it keeps us within that limitation, and uncertainty holds unlimited possibilities.
• 51:37
  Regina Huber: So uncertainty, unlimited possibilities.
• 51:40
  Regina Huber: So, yeah, and and structure and order are limiting too.
• 51:44
  Regina Huber: They have their place, they have their function for sure, but they're also limiting in their own way, and it's in chaos that options arise.
• 51:52
  Regina Huber: Chaos is full of options, I believe.
• 51:55
  Regina Huber: And you know, we don't want that chaos all the time, but there's a place and a timing for it.
• 52:00
  Regina Huber: It's sometimes when we want to go, we were talking about next chapters or different chapters in life and reinventing before, right?
• 52:08
  Regina Huber: And as part of that process, we need that chaotic phase where we are a little bit confused because we need that phase to open up possibilities for ourselves.
• 52:19
  Regina Huber: And then once we have figured out which of the possibilities we want to go for, and once we've picked our options, then we can go back to greater structure and really line the options up and gain clarity, right?
• 52:34
  Regina Huber: But chaos is really often the first phase toward a new chapter in your life.
• 52:39
  Jeanne: Nice.
• 52:39
  Jeanne: Well, being a project manager kind of discipline in my past, uh, it's a little hard for me to say uncertainty and chaos because we want to lock everything down.
• 52:48
  Jeanne: But I'll think about this and chew on it a little bit.
• 52:50
  Jeanne: We do actually come up with some good solutions when everything's failing and then you're in chaos.
• 52:56
  Jeanne: So I like this.
• 52:57
  Jeanne: Well, here's your other links here, and you have a link tree which has everything.
• 53:03
  Jeanne: Um, but I put all the other ones in here, and then these notes and everything will be in the show notes and transcripts for people to be able to reach out and contact you.
• 53:13
  Jeanne: You also had a call to action for people uh ready to ditch outdated leadership paradigms.
• 53:20
  Regina Huber: Yes, I have quite a few call to actions.
• 53:23
  Regina Huber: Actually, because of though what what we've talked today about, uh there might be even another one.
• 53:29
  Regina Huber: But this is a good one to get started with this topic.
• 53:33
  Regina Huber: So, yes, it's transformyourperformance.com forward slash lead with edge.
• 53:38
  Regina Huber: If you're more focused on the leadership topic itself, and if you want to focus on other parts of your life right now, then I could just add on if somebody wants to write that down.
• 53:49
  Regina Huber: I also have a template to create your freaking amazing life.
• 53:53
  Regina Huber: And it's just literally transformyperformance.com.
• 53:56
  Regina Huber: That's the same forward slash freaking amazing life and freaking without the G at the end.
• 54:02
  Regina Huber: I want to add that on because of the conversation we've had.
• 54:06
  Regina Huber: I know usually I only like to offer one, but there might be people who like that.
• 54:11
  Jeanne: Yeah, that'll be great.
• 54:11
  Jeanne: If you send it to me in email or something, I can just add it into the show notes.
• 54:16
  Jeanne: That'll be wonderful.
• 54:17
  Jeanne: Well, thank you for being on.
• 54:19
  Jeanne: You've been a spectacular guest.
• 54:21
  Jeanne: You've given us a lot of things to think about.
• 54:24
  Jeanne: Uh, for anyone listening, please reach out to Regina and get in touch with her if anything has resonated with you and what she said.
• 54:32
  Jeanne: And for everyone listening, uh, from your Admiral of the Unexpected, I'm Jeanne, and I wish you all smooth sailing until the next episode.
• 54:42
  Regina Huber: Bye.
• 54:42
  Regina Huber: Thank you again.
• 54:44
  Jeanne: Thanks for joining me on Project Candor, where the doors are open, the stories are unexpected, and the treasure is always real.
• 54:51
  Jeanne: If today's episode made you laugh or think, follow the show and share it with your crew.
• 54:56
  Jeanne: Otherwise, I might just make you swab the deck.
• 55:00
  Jeanne: I'm Jeanne Andersen, your Admiral of the Unexpected.
• 55:03
  Jeanne: See you on the next Voyage.