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MINISTRY-RESTORING-PATTERNS · Apostle Joshua Selman

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  Speaker 1: Us this afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: Letusten and gentlemen, let's welcome Apostle Salmon as a blessed
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  us us today.
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  Speaker 1: Through Apostles.
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  Speaker 3: The Lord, thank you, You're so so very much. It's
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  my pleasure. I want us to honor the State Chairman
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  of PFM.
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  Speaker 2: I truly honor you, sir, Thank you so much, person
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  the David and his wife, and then all the executives.
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  Speaker 1: I have learned the difference between people.
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  Speaker 2: As friends, brothers and in their official capacity, and I
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  will never abuse that. I honor every single one of
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  you in that capacity. Let's give them a big, big
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  God bless.
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  Speaker 1: You in the name of Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: And I want to salute and honor every man of God.
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  Speaker 1: Most people here are preachers.
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  Speaker 2: We do not do the things that we do because
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  we're necessarily better. It's an election of grace and the
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  messy of God. My coming here this afternoon is to
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  help by the spirit to make contributions to our efficiency
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  as ministers.
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  Speaker 1: Of the gospel.
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  Speaker 2: And then under this umbrella, and I'm hoping that a
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  few minutes that we have to spend together, that God
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  will add grace to grace, faith to faith. In the
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  name of Jesus in the name of Jesus Christ as
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  the God Man again, I know you.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so very much.
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  Speaker 2: Let's lift our hands and ask a lot to speak
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  to us within these minutes that we have to share
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  fellowship together.
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  Speaker 1: Someone is praying. My heart is opened. Speak to me.
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  Speaker 2: Let the words bring perspective to my efficiency as a
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  minister of the gospel. Let PFN go from glory to glory.
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  In Jesus' mighty name, we pray help us this afternoon,
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  Spirit of the Living God, speak to us, cause us
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  to understand and that we make progress in life, destiny
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  and even in ministry. To you be all the glory
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  for in Jesus' name we pray. Please you may be
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  gloriously seated again, God bless you. I'll be talking about
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  three things very quickly. This is what the Holy Spirit
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  placed upon my heart as a contribution to all the discussions.
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  I understand that we have been under the influence of
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  various speakers with vast experiences across leadership and ministry, and
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  so this is an addition to the things that we
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  have learned this morning. And I'm praying that what will
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  be hearing will truly add value to our spiritual understanding
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  in the name of Jesus.
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  Speaker 1: In the name of Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: So I'll be talking across three areas very very quickly,
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  and then hopefully will get to pray. And I consider
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  this a very great opportunity because I have learned from
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  scripture and by experience that the quality of believers across
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  any territory is a reflection of the kind and the
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  quality of priesthood within that territory also a way together.
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  That means, when you sample believers in no particular order
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  in Legos, it should be able to give you an
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  accurate feedback as to the quality of men and women
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  of God that we have serving His purposes here.
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  Speaker 1: And so everyone here represents at least ten.
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  Speaker 2: Twenty thirty forty people a network of churches. So in
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  speaking to one leader, you are literally speaking to thousands
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  of people.
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  Speaker 1: And it's a very noble honor. Hallelujah.
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  Speaker 2: Two Scriptures asks Chapter four, I mean Collosans Chapter four
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  and verse seventeen. Colloss four and verse seventeen. Let me
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  quote it quickly for sake of time. It says say
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  onto Occupos that you take heed to the ministry that
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  Tao has obtained or received in.
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  Speaker 1: The Lord, that thou fulfill it.
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  Speaker 2: Paul was speaking to his son in the Gospel, and
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  he says to say onto Occupos that you take heed.
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  The word take hit there means be attentive, be discigning,
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  be careful, be intentional over the ministry that Thao has
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  received in the Lord. Notice he never said the ministry
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  you receive from the Lord. To receive from the Lord
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  means you don't need a relationship. To receive in the
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  Lord means it is a byproduct of an encounter away together.
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  Speaker 1: The ministry you have received in the Lord.
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  Speaker 2: Ministry is not just received from the It is received
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  in the Lord, a derivative of your knowing God. You're
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  loving him, You're pressing into the things of God. Let's
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  consider one more scripture, Acts, Chapter twenty and verse twenty
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  eight Profound Scripture. This is a call and a charge
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  to shepherds, those who love Jesus. At twenty twenty eight,
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  May I request that we really in concert together ready
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  one to read take heed therefore onto yourselves, Aha, and
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  to all the flock which the Holy goals has made
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  you over seers to feed.
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  Speaker 1: The Church of God.
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  Speaker 2: I like also reading one more time, one to go
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  take heed therefore on to yourselves and to all the
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  flock over which the Holy Ghost had made you over seers,
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  to feed the Church of God which he had purchased.
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  Speaker 1: Allelujah.
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  Speaker 2: Dotor Bley made a statement that I heard, and it
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  was very profound, and I think I would like to
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  start from there. It matters that we understand God's program.
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  This is the first thing that I need to talk about.
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  And with all due respect, I think one of the
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  major issues that has affected the efficiency of priesthood within
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  this nation across the African continent is that for most
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  people there is no clarity and definition as to God's program.
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  So if you ask a pastor what are you doing exactly?
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  You can say God said, go and raise me people.
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  And while that may be true, it is not concise
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  enough to prove efficiency. The average pastor is at a
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  loss as to God's program. Most men and women of God,
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  with all due respect, cannot give you an intelligent presentation
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  of God's program, which is the basis for ministry.
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  Speaker 1: Are we together?
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  Speaker 2: And once that centrality of God's program does not govern
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  your church activity, does not govern your sermons, does not
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  govern your conferences, it is natural to veer off.
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  Speaker 1: Into error and even compromise. Away together.
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  Speaker 2: Now, it matters that every preacher, every man of God,
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  every intercessor, every general overseer, every superintendent, you must be
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  able to know this for yourself and then raise leaders
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  after disunderstanding what exactly is God's program? What is God
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  about across the nations? Away together now? And I want
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  to say this, and and I say this with a
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  burden in my heart, but with every sense of respect.
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  Speaker 1: There are certain things that are not.
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  Speaker 2: Left to personal revelation. One of it is God's program.
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  God's program is not just revealed to an individual as
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  a secret. It is a template that is available to
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  everyone who.
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  Speaker 1: Desires to serve him.
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  Speaker 2: Away together now, Yes, because I think one of the
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  challenges I will wrap up by identifying a few challenges
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  with the Nigerian Church and hopefully proferring a few solutions.
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  And one of it is the abuse of God said
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  the abuse of.
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  Speaker 1: I had the Holy Spirit.
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  Speaker 2: The abuse of it has brought a lot of chaos, disorderliness.
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  Just because it's a spiritual affair does not mean it
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  cannot be vetted away together now, yes, so I.
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  Speaker 1: Can come up with anything.
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  Speaker 2: And because spirituality or the faith work is a relationship
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  be between me and God.
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  Speaker 1: I can say this is what God told me.
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  Speaker 2: But then there are standards according to scripture. To george
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  spirits and to test all spirits are we'll learning already,
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  So let me not go ahead of myself. According to
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  scripture and in theologically, we have come to know God's
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  agenda to be called the Great Commission. And while that
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  is very simple enough, most people do not have a
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  very concise picture as to what the Great.
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  Speaker 1: Commission is all about.
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  Speaker 2: If you prove into the understanding of the average pastor,
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  you will find people who tell you the Great Commission
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  is about evangelism. You are right, but it is incomplete.
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  Others talk about transformation. You are right, but you are incomplete.
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  The Great Commission, as we know, is holistically revealed across
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  three scriptures. There are three scriptures altogether that really form
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  the basis for the Great com I'll just run through
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  them and then I'll listen out for sake of time.
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  Speaker 1: Number one is found in Mark chapter sixteen.
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  Speaker 2: Please mark chapter sixteen, from verse fifteen down to twenty.
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  Speaker 1: Jesus himself is speaking.
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  Speaker 2: This is the first piece of what we know as
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  the Greek Commission that represents God's agenda. Everyone in ministry
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  should be about this.
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  Speaker 1: This is the construction.
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  Speaker 2: This is literally the vision of all that we do,
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  being casted from scripture. And he said, unto them, go
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  ye into all the world, and preach, preach the Gospel
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  to every creature.
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  Speaker 1: Verse sixteen.
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  Speaker 2: It says he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved,
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  and he that does not believe shall be damned. So
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  the first part of the Great Commission has to do
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  with the.
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  Speaker 1: Preaching of the Gospel.
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  Speaker 2: The second part of the Great Commission is found in
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  Mark Matthew chapter twenty eight, from verse eight. Matthew, Chapter
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  twenty eight, from verse eighteen, same Jesus speaking. This is
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  Matthew's synoptic account. Jesus came and speak onto them, saying,
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  all authority is given on to me in heaven and
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  in the earth. And he says, go ye there for
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  verse nineteen. Now of yeah, go ye therefore and teach.
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  Now we see that he's going beyond preaching and teach
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  all nations. Matt's account says, preach the Gospel to every creature.
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  Now Matthew is saying, teach all nations, baptizing them in
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  the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy goes.
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  I don't want to go into the theological debate of this.
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  That's not my assignment. Now are we together now Verse twenty,
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  he says, teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I
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  have commanded you. And while you are about this business,
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  know that I am with you all way onto the.
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  Speaker 1: End of the world. Please say amen.
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  Speaker 2: So the first aspect of the Great Commission, representing God's agenda,
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  has to do with the preaching of the Gospel, and
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  then the teaching discipleship. The last aspect is found in
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  Acts chapter one. From verse six, Acts Chapter one, verse six,
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  Jesus is having his final sessions with the disciples so
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  that they would receive the Holy Ghost. And they came
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  to him and said, Lord, without at this time, restore
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  the kingdom of Israel.
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  Speaker 1: The next verse, Jesus replies and says, it is.
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  Speaker 2: Not for you to know the times and the seasons
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  which the Father has put in his own power. Verse
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  eight now says, but you shall receive power after that
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  the Holy Ghost has come upon you, and that empowerment
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  will cause.
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  Speaker 1: You to be weaknesses weaknesses.
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  Speaker 2: And he defines that geography of the witness first Jerusalem,
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  then Judea, then Samaria. The entire goal is the Autumno's
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  part of the earth.
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  Speaker 1: When you combine Mark.
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  Speaker 2: Sixteen, Matthew twenty eight, and Acts Chapter one, it gives
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  you the whole picture of what we call the Greek Commission.
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  Speaker 1: Now the challenge.
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  Speaker 2: I came from an evangelical background, and so I understand
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  a bit of the limitations as we have been mentored
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  into understanding the Great Commission, Because on the one hand.
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  Speaker 1: We have people who the entire.
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  Speaker 2: Scope of understanding God's agenda is evangelism, and that is important.
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  Speaker 1: But like you, will be learning.
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  Speaker 2: And I think doctor Warey talked a bit about that
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  by the time you bring in the habits and leave
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  the habitst that way, there are consequences even though you
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  gather the harvest.
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  Speaker 1: Are we together now, Yes?
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  Speaker 2: And then he talks about teaching, and then he talked
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  about being witnesses. What is the Great Commission? I wrote
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  here that the Greek Commission is a mandate given by
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  Jesus to then his disciples, but today to all believers,
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  a mandate given by Jesus Christ. It was then to
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  his disciples, but now to all believers, to reach the
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  entire globe.
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  Speaker 1: Please listen, To reach the entire globe.
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  Speaker 2: With the Gospel of Salvation, to bring nations to the
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  knowledge of the truth, true discipleship, and to consequently bring territorial.
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  Speaker 1: And societal transformation.
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  Speaker 2: I will take that again that the Great Commission, as
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  given by Jesus, is a mandate to reach the entire
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  globe with the Gospel of sal to bring nations to
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  the knowledge of the truth through discipleship, and to consequently
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  bring territorial and societal transformation. Immediately, you see that there
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  are three aspects to the Great Commission, and every time
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  you deviate from any one of this, you will corrupt
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  the program. Number one, the first aspect of the Great
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  Commission is world evangelization. World evangelization, world evangelization, reaching the lost.
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  The Bible says that God desires that all men be saved,
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  all men be saved, all men be saved, all men
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  be saved.
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  Speaker 1: World evangelization.
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  Speaker 2: Statistically, they're are about eight point now one billion people
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  upon the earth. Eight point one billion people. I hope
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  my statistics is still write eight point one billion people
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  and there's just a little over two point six billion
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  professing Christians. Statistically, confirmed across the earth.
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  Speaker 1: Now we have a mandate to reach the entire globe.
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  Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, it should challenge us that in spite
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  of the churches, the crusades, the conventions, the programs, the
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  advantage of internet intellectual privileges that we have, we have
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  not been able to cover even thirty percent, or twins
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  or forty percent of it. And yet we believe that
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  we're in the end times. We believe that we're wrapping
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  up the church age.
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  Speaker 1: Are we together?
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  Speaker 2: That means that we have not been doing a very
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  effective job from a statistical standpoint that if we have
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  about two point six billion professing Christians, this includes everything
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  from backsliders to those who just identify with the faith.
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  We're not talking of those who are genuinely saved, those
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  who have filled a form and wrote there that I
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  am a Christian even in their idol worshipers.
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  Speaker 1: Are we together? Now? But look at this, Let me
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  challenge you for a moment.
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  Speaker 2: How many of you know that our social media applications.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure that most.
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  Speaker 2: Of the applications that we depend helplessly on are even
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  more than twenty to twenty five years. Yet somebody brought
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  an idea that broke the barrier of boundary. Somebody brought
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  an idea that broke the barrier of religion. Somebody brought
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  an idea that broke the barrier of education, and it's
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  been received by.
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  Speaker 1: More people upon the earth.
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  Speaker 2: Within twenty years, someone certain his room and formulated an
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  idea that has made the old and young, male and
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  female Christians and non Christians helplessly glued to those applications.
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  It means there is a formula for a more effect
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  if world evangelization.
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  Speaker 1: Are we together now?
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  Speaker 2: If within twenty years, young people spelling their twenties came
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  up with an idea, an idea without the active acknowledgment
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  of the contribution of the Holy Spirit, are we together?
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  They never came up to say, I open to you
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  that the Holy Spirit. They never attended an importation service,
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  they never received the prophetic world, and yet they came
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  up with an idea that all of us prophets and apostles,
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  with all the annointing, with all due respect, we are
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  helplessly dependent.
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  Speaker 1: On those applications.
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  Speaker 2: It means there is something God can place upon our
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  lives that will cause the advancement of the Gospel to
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  break barriers. The level of inefficiency that we are experiencing
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  in our evangelism should be a concern for anyone who
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  loves Jesus.
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  Speaker 1: Are we together, yes, sir? Number two.
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  Speaker 2: The second aspect of the Great Commission is discipleship, transforming
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  believers through discipleship. Transforming believers through discipleship, it matters what
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  we do with the harvest. Jesus called us fishers of men.
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  And once you fish, you don't drop the fish there
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  like that. You have to work on it discipleship. I
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  can tell you this, and I submit to you that
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  the missing ingredient in the kind and the quality of
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  believers that have come out from this nation and Africa
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  is largely a product of the poor or known level
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  of discipleship whatsoever. The average believer is not methodically mentored
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  into understanding God and understanding.
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  Speaker 1: The ways of God.
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  Speaker 2: Acts Chapter twenty hundversetaty Tude says, and now, brethren, I
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  commend you to God and to the world of his grace,
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  which is able to build you up, number one, and
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  then to give you an inheritance among them that are sanctified,
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  he says, and that from a child thou hast known
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  the holy scripture, which is able to make you wise
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  onto salvation. The Bible says and air for as long
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  as that is a child, that he differed not from
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  his slave, even though he be lord of all.
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  Speaker 1: Are we learning now?
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  Speaker 2: Paul said, when I came to you, I couldn't speak
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  of these things because you are still yet as paved
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  and not spiritual. The average believer cannot defend his spiritual understanding.
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  We know a little of everything, a little of prayer here,
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  a little of fasting here, a little of breakthrough, a
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  little of finances.
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  Speaker 1: Our growth module is so.
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  Speaker 2: Scattered it does not produce a people of stature. No
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  body attends lecture in any class in the university and
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  receives a degree. The program is constructive. That's why you
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  can predict that these naive students in six years can
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  be a medical doctor because of the quality of the
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  content beyond even the lecturers' ability.
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  Speaker 1: Away.
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  Speaker 2: Together, we must obtain grace from God. I'm challenging us
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  in righteousness and with all humility. Let's stop maintaining members
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  Let's raise witnesses the consciousness of maintenance of membership. Ten
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  years in church and they cannot defend their spiritual understanding.
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  But let me bring the test to us with all
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  due respect, their man of God, their Woman of God,
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  their co laborer at the gospel. Let me ask you
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  a question. What do you know about prayer? What do
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  you know about Satan? What do you know about Jesus?
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  What do you know about salvation? What do you know
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  about increase? What do you know about leadership? What do
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  you know about the anointing? What do you know about
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  the Holy Spirit? What do you know about warfare? What
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  do you know about growth? What do you know about restoration?
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  What do you know about administration? What do you know
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  about conflict management? These are the bodies of spiritual understanding
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  that makes an individual leader. Indeed, you cannot help the
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  people at the same level of understanding with them.
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  Speaker 1: Are we together now?
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  Speaker 2: Jesus called the people blind leading the blind. He was
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  not insulting them. He was describing their spiritual states. Pick
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  an average member, five of them, put them on stage
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  and ask them questions. Talk to me about the gospel.
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  You will be surprised. The person is the head of
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  ushering and it does not know what the gospel is.
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  I just know that Jesus died. Okay, how do you
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  lead an unbeliever to become a child of God.
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  Speaker 1: Well you confess the prayer. What does he say?
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  Speaker 2: Because it is not every information about Jesus that saves.
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  There is an exact body of information about Jesus that
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  translates to salvation. It's a let it be known to
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  you or Israel, that this same Jesus you are crucified,
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  has today been exalted as Lord and Christ, and three
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  thousand people came.
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  Speaker 1: Are we learning?
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  Speaker 2: We need to go back and probe the basis for
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  our discipleship because the truth is, I hate to say
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  this what many ministers are genuinely called, but they are
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  ill prepared. It shows in the kinds of salmons that
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  we bring. It shows in the centrality. We bring a
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  lot of salmons that are clearly not doctrinal. They are
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  largely opinions or just copying from one person to the order,
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  or a.
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  Speaker 1: Transfer from poor mentorship. Are we together?
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  Speaker 2: What do you know about prayer? What do you know
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  about fasting? What do you know about oil? What do
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  you know about mantles? What do you know about Satan
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  and demons? With all due respect, and I say this
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  with every humility, sense of humility, if I call any
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  man of God here in no particular order, and give
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  you the mic. I said, take five minutes out of
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  my time teach us. How do we take over territories?
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  We all want growth, But what is the formula? Because
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  Jesus said the church is built, there must be a formula.
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  No architect begins to build without a formula. What is
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  the master plan? We are called master builders, and God
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  wants us to be wise master builders. Another question, can
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  you tell me the kind of believer you are producing
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  from your teaching every day? If you don't have the picture,
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  something is wrong. A lecturer already has a picture of
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  the kind of student he's producing from the first day
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  of the lecture.
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  Speaker 1: He can assure the people.
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  Speaker 2: That in five years an architect is coming out of
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  this lecture. Can you define the kind of believer that
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  our Sunday salmons, our conferences? What kind of believer is
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  in the mind of your spirit? Discipleship? The key to
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  effective discipleship is to understand doctrine. The word doctrine comes
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  from the Latin word doctriner. It means a body of
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  truth that turns a disciple to become like his master.
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  Speaker 1: Doctrine. Doctrines are not opinions.
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  Speaker 2: The Bible says in Acts, chapter two and verse forty two.
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  Speaker 1: It says, and they.
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  Speaker 2: Continued steadfastly in the apostles doctrine, and in fellowship and
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  in the breaking of bread and in prayer. That was
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  the apostolic model that was given to them.
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  Speaker 1: It's God helping us.
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  Speaker 2: Every man of God who loves Jesus and loves his
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  program must go back. And I'm saying this, I'm just
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  speaking apostolically to the body of Christ.
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  Speaker 1: We need to re.
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  Speaker 2: Examine our spiritual understanding because that is where our salmons
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  come from. There are sermons that don't profit the spiritual
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  lives of the people, nor build them to become effective witnesses.
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  So here is the progression. Everybody starts as a nonbeliever
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  in iniquity. Did my mother conceive me? Everybody nobody inherits
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  salvation from the womb away together. So the journey is
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  that you stand as an unbeliever. Please watch this, and
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  then by acknowledging the substitutionary sacrifice of Christ translating to
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  eternal life, you get to the next level.
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  Speaker 1: You are a believer. And when you become a believer,
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  there are three stages. There is a babe, one.
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  Speaker 2: Who is just saved and infant, but void of spiritual understanding.
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  Speaker 1: The moment you get.
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  Speaker 2: Transformed, God introduces you to three ministries to continue the
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  journey to your maturity. Number one is the ministry of
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  the Holy Spirit. Number two is the ministry of the World.
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  Number three is the ministry of the teaching priest. Anybody
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  who lacks and encounter with these three ministries will have
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  a deformity in his spiritual growth. That is the order
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  that means. The moment an individual gets saved, it's important
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  he understands that there are three ministries about to be
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  introduced to his life, and hims embrace all of them.
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  Number one, I repeat the Ministry of the Holy Spirit.
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  Speaker 1: Number two the Ministry of.
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  Speaker 2: The World, the Logos of God, a compendium of the
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  thoughts of God. And then number three the ministry of
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  a teaching priest. Jeremiah three fifteen, and I will give
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  you pastors or shepherds according to my heart, and they
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  will feed you with knowledge, they will feed you with understanding.
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  Speaker 1: Allelujah.
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  Speaker 2: When this gentleman, whoever he is now as a babe,
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  encounters these three fold ministries, they begin to journey him
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  through the process of transformation. What is transformation the name
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  given to the process that makes you become like Christ?
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  In experience, it says, my little children of whom I
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  travel now, until Christ be formed in you. When the
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  believer becomes transformed, that is the second.
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  Speaker 1: Layer of the believer.
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  Speaker 2: The third layer is empowerment. A believer, I can be
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  transformed and yet not empowered. Jesus himself mentored his disciples
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  for three and a half years. They were transformed, but
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  they were not empowered. So he said, carry you in Jerusalem.
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  Your issue is not an information deficiency. You do not
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  have powered to defend the things that you know. It
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  is dangerous to only be transformed and not be empowered.
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  You will say many things that are correct, but not
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  be able to defend them.
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  Speaker 1: Many things.
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  Speaker 2: For instance, you will be knowledgeable enough to know that
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  God heals, but you will never see healing.
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  Speaker 1: You will be knowledgeable to know.
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  Speaker 2: That God empowers, that God lives, but there is no performance.
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  Speaker 1: Knowledge that brings transformation and then brings empowerment. Now, please
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  hear me.
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  Speaker 2: The moment you encounter transformation and empowerment, you stop.
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  Speaker 1: Just being a believer.
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  Speaker 2: You become a weakness, a witness is a believer who
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  has gone through the school of transformation and gone through
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  the school of empowerment. A witness is not somebody who
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  starts ministry.
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  Speaker 1: You can start ministry and in the spirit, you are
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  not yet a witness.
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  Speaker 2: The trigger for being a witness is that you would
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  have submitted yourself to transformation and submitted yourself to empowerment.
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  This is the model that Jesus showed us at age twelve.
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  He was at the temple learning the law, even though
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  he was the word himself, but that did not release
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  him to start ministry. The Bible tells us that he
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  met John and he told John. John said, I'm not
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  even worthy to untipe the latchet.
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  Speaker 1: Of your shoe.
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  Speaker 2: He said, so far to be so's an ordinance that
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  scripture be fulfilled. And when he baptized John, the heavens opened,
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  and the Bible says the Holy goos descended upon him
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  in the similitude of a dove, and there was a
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  voice that said, this is my beloved son.
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  Speaker 1: The question is what was he before Amen?
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  Speaker 2: So the challenge most times in Nigeria is that most
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  people are called, but they are not yet sent, and
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  they go there is a difference between being called and sent.
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  You are not called to do ministry. You are called
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  to Jesus. Then you are sent to the nations. You
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  are called to Jesus. Your calling is not to a church.
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  Your calling is to Jesus. The Bible says he selected
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  the disciples to be with him and then that you
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  will send them. Something happens when you are with Jesus.
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  It is from the residue of that encounter your salmons
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  come out. It is from the residue of that encounter,
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  your impact comes out. Just because you are genuinely called
• 31:58
  does not mean you are being sent. Jesus Us called
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  the disciples from day one of his ministry, but he
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  only sent them when he resurrected.
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  Speaker 1: The trigger was the coming of the Holy Spirit.
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  Speaker 2: So we have a lot of zelous people who start
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  ministry with joy and passion, genuinely called. After one month,
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  they've exhausted everything they know to say. And it is
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  dangerous because when you have exhausted, do you know? Saturday
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  nights are the most frustrating nights for most pastors because
• 32:29
  they have to think, what in.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: The world am I going to share?
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  Speaker 2: If His Righteousness have preached on it holiness, have preached
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  on it, Breakthrough have preached on it. Given I've preached
• 32:38
  on it, deliverance are what else do I say? If
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  you get into that state, it is proof that something
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  has tried in your spirit.
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  Speaker 1: I'm been very honest with you.
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  Speaker 2: If you ever get to that state as a man
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  of God, go for a retreat first. It says, that
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  will show us a part of light. It is in
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  your light that we see light. That you are so
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  full of life. The days are not given enough because
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  there is so much. Are we together now? The last
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  thing I'll say about discipleship, and then I'll pass that quickly.
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  We're still talking on the great commission? Do you know
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  when it has to do it? Knowing the Lord, there
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  is no end to your knowledge. You will keep learning
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  Him even in heaven. But when it has to do
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  it building victorious people. The body of truth that turns
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  are not not a believer to a witness is finite.
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  Speaker 1: It's not in finite.
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  Speaker 2: The body of knowledge that actually makes the maturity of
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  a believer is finite. Like a curricculum that turns his
• 33:41
  students to a graduate. You can exhaust it. The student's
• 33:45
  learning continues, but as far as that course of study
• 33:50
  is concerned, you can exhaust it. Something plus something plus
• 33:54
  something plus something equals a matural Christian. Building believers to
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  maturity is not an infinite pursuit of knowledge. And you
• 34:05
  are wondering, there is an exact body of knowledge.
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  Speaker 1: The Bible calls.
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  Speaker 2: It marvelous light, the name given to the body that
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  makes tatre out.
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  Speaker 1: Of ordnary believers.
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  Speaker 2: It is my considered opinion, and I hope you don't
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  find offense in it. That if any member is faithful
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  in any chot for two years on that structured mentorship,
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  and that person cannot attain onto a state of maturity,
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  is either the man of God is wasting his time
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  or the individual is not serious with his growth. A
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  wait together now, prays the name of the Lord. It
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  doesn't take forever for the habilist in our villages to
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  train another person. They bring a naive person. The body
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  of knowledge is exact. They will tell you this young
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  boy will be a habi list in three years, and
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  you will work the boy, going every day and watching
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  and watching, and after three years they will now crown him.
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  The one who come, who who brings meyhem? But how
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  come with all due respect. We have people who are
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  being saved before some children were born, and those children
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  to their pastors, and the people are not transformed. Nothing
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  about their communication shows maturity. We need to go back
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  to our pul pits and examine the content. The content
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  is what produces victory or defeat.
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  Speaker 1: It matters what the people hear.
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  Speaker 2: Thankfully, as a continent and as a nation, we have
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  people who are loyal and passionate to hear. They are
• 35:44
  so passionate they don't hear what they hear. They trust
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  you enough to hear, and if what you are communicating
• 35:50
  is error, they're still grateful.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: One thing the Bible tells us about.
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  Speaker 2: Being a teacher is that you will be judged for
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  having access to the ears and the minds of people.
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  Speaker 1: Is God's speaking to us.
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  Speaker 2: So the Great Commission has number one world evangelization, Number
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  two discipleship. World evangelization is God's program for the world
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  of sinners. God has a program for the world of sinners.
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  It is called world evangelization. God has a program for
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  the saints. It is called discipleship. Attaining maturity through discipleship.
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  And then the third aspect I will give you quickly
• 36:31
  is called territorial transformation Matthew Chapter five, from verse thirteen
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  to sixteen. Jesus is teaching now, and he begins by saying,
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  you are the salt of the earth. He says, but
• 36:45
  if the salt has lost this sultiness, well it's seven,
• 36:47
  It says, where it shall it be salted? It is
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  good for nothing except to be thrown down and trampled
• 36:53
  a foot of men. Then it says, in verse fourteen,
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  you are the light of the world.
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  Speaker 1: He calls us a.
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  Speaker 2: City that is set on a hill which.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Cannot be hidden.
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  Speaker 2: It says, neither do men light a candle and put
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  it under a bushel, but they put it on a candlestick,
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  and it gives light to everyone in the room. Verse
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  sixteen now says, let your light. The word let means permit,
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  do not restrain it. Let your light so shine before
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  men that they may see. God wants men to see
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  that they may see your good deeds and glorify your father.
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  That means the way God gets glory is when the
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  sun's manifest good walks. John chapter fifteen and verse eight.
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  Here in is our Father glorified when you bear much fruit,
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  So shall you be my disciples.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: John fifteen sixteen.
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  Speaker 2: You have not chosen me, but I have chosen you
• 37:50
  and ordained you that you should go and bear much fruit,
• 37:55
  and that your fruit.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Should remain territorial transformation.
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  Speaker 2: I was very touch as we heard the chairman bringing
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  a lot of societal projects. Can I tell you results
• 38:08
  are evangelists results? There are Salmon's only results can preach
• 38:16
  and there is an audience that was designed to hear
• 38:19
  that salmon. If all we keep doing in church is
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  falling on that the anointing and rolling, let me assure you, society,
• 38:27
  we need to bring data driven statistics that shows that
• 38:32
  the church is relevant. And the way you do that
• 38:34
  is by becoming light and salt. I don't mean to
• 38:43
  insult you, but there are many beer parlors near the
• 38:45
  churches and they're join in the praise and worship while
• 38:47
  the prison worship is going on. Their rejoicing at this drama.
• 38:51
  It looks like they've changed a new drama. No transformation
• 38:54
  within the territory, No transformation whatsoever.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Are we together.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: And Roberts lean on the back of the church while
• 39:06
  someone's are going waiting for sagis to be over, so
• 39:09
  they will steal no transformation. I don't want to become
• 39:15
  a part of any movement that does not speak to
• 39:17
  the development of society. We must be very apostolic in
• 39:22
  our approach. We must sell God in a way that
• 39:24
  society will.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Be ready to embrace him.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: It is the reason why Christianity in many developed nations
• 39:30
  is being considered as a nuisance because they do not
• 39:34
  have data driven proof of relevance of church in nation building.
• 39:40
  It's good to sing, it's good to shout, it's good
• 39:42
  to fall and stand, but receive the wisdom that came
• 39:45
  in the place of prayer and use it to develop
• 39:48
  the society charitable organizations. By do you know, I always
• 39:55
  why Jesus third five thousand, Now I go. The feeding
• 39:59
  of the five time thousand was number one to prove
• 40:02
  that he loved them, but number two as a message
• 40:04
  to Roman government, we are not irrelevant and we are.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Not in nuisance.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Because by the time you camp five thousand people for
• 40:15
  three days and you don't feed them, you have given
• 40:19
  the government a right to say you want to kill
• 40:21
  these people. You are cult and they are right. Jesus said,
• 40:25
  don't let them go this way. There's already enmity against
• 40:28
  this program. Feed them let them know that there is
• 40:31
  an aspect of God's love that speaks to nation building.
• 40:35
  Do you know women can sing a lot of praises.
• 40:38
  I'm sure a lot of women sand from the mountain.
• 40:41
  Where is Caesar? Where is Herald? Come and see what
• 40:43
  Jesus is doing. You guys have been scribes and pharisees
• 40:47
  for years. You never fed us. Can I tell you
• 40:52
  the truth? Own believers can also be used to evangelies.
• 40:58
  They will go to a senator and said, this bohole
• 41:02
  came from the church, my daughter.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Since today court see the church.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: This marriage that would have scattered was brought back court
• 41:12
  see the church. I an, I don't worship hour, but
• 41:16
  if you thought that, you see that now listen.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you this.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Part of the principles of dominion is that you must
• 41:26
  be able to translate the God life to affect all
• 41:29
  an sundry, because He sends rain both on the good.
• 41:34
  God has a program for society.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Are we together?
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Every man of God who has attained a commendable size
• 41:41
  in ministry, you owe there is a corporate social responsibility.
• 41:46
  You don't have to be an oil and gas company.
• 41:49
  Once you are a man of God who intends to last.
• 41:52
  There must be an expression. I used to be in
• 41:58
  Zaria before I moved to Abuja and up until now.
• 42:02
  Every time I visit our expression there, once they know
• 42:05
  I'm around, you will find it's literally like a crusade
• 42:09
  without calling anybody. You see one thing I've learned with Muslims.
• 42:14
  If it's welfare, they will stop you from coming. They
• 42:18
  can stop crusades. But once you say food medicals with
• 42:22
  Jesus Joy, even if it's inside the baptistry, they will enter.
• 42:26
  Then weight most of us have been wasting an opportunity
• 42:30
  for a harvest because we are unconcerned about the things
• 42:35
  that happen in society. That theology is not accurate. We
• 42:40
  are not of the world, I agree, but we are
• 42:43
  in the world. We cannot be detached from the activities
• 42:48
  that happen within our space. I'm praying in the name
• 42:51
  of Jesus Christ, that for a man of God, for
• 42:54
  a woman of God, for a.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Pastor who has come here.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Whilst you are hearing me, the Holy Spirit will tell
• 42:59
  you this is the missing link.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: This is why your church has been in a place.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: For ten years and the community you have never seen.
• 43:06
  The chief of that community. You have never greeted the
• 43:09
  traditional head within that community. He does know you. Yet
• 43:14
  you have so much property there. The young boys in
• 43:16
  that community cannot defend the land. They don't know the order.
• 43:20
  They have never participated in anything kingdom.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: You've never called them for anything. You will know the.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Relevance of community when there is a crisis. Well, with
• 43:33
  all you respect, most of you here in the worst
• 43:35
  you've not really seen a serious crisis, you see, But
• 43:39
  when you are in a place where at any point
• 43:41
  they can bound things here and.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: There there are people who say, I am.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: A Muslim, bought my nose this, This was the person
• 43:48
  feeding our wives, our husbands.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Church is squire. This is a bastard's conference zone.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: I want to believe the Holy Spirit is speaking to
• 44:02
  our hearts.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: I love us all.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: It's because that's the way we translated to.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Improve our people. Are we together?
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: So the Great Commission I said three things. This is
• 44:16
  the first thing. Now to understand God's program. That God's program.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: If it must be done well, it must.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Capture within our experience and our mission statements and our
• 44:28
  church activities.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Evangelism.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Let me submit to you, with all due respect, there
• 44:33
  are churches that cannot remember the last time they made
• 44:36
  an altar call.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: And I don't mean to insult us. It is a
• 44:41
  terrible thing.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: You cannot finish preaching and consistently and just say well,
• 44:46
  if the salmon taughts you, you are always free to
• 44:48
  give you a life.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: To Jesus. No, that's not the model that was handed over.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: He desires that all men be saved and to come onto.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: The knowledge of the truth.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: World evangelization, God's program for the unbelieving world, discipleship that
• 45:06
  leads to transformation by the sound communication of doctrine, God's
• 45:11
  program for helping the Saints attain maturity, and then societal
• 45:15
  or territorial transformation, God's program for society. You believe that,
• 45:20
  say amen, I'm not going to talk much about discipleship.
• 45:24
  This was the second aspect that I wanted to talk quickly,
• 45:28
  building men.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: The Bible says that he led.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Captivity captive, and he gave gifts onto men, and that
• 45:36
  he gave those gifts some apostles, some prophets, some pastors, evangelist,
• 45:43
  some pastors, some teachers, and the Bible says he gave
• 45:46
  that for the maturing perfecting of the Saints, that the
• 45:52
  saints will do the work of the ministry. Please look
• 45:54
  at me, every man and woman of God. Here I
• 45:58
  want you to know that the business of ministry is
• 46:01
  the business of building men. The business of ministry beyond
• 46:06
  physical buildings, beyond registering ministries and organizations in corporate Affairs Commission.
• 46:14
  The ministry that we are called into is the ministry
• 46:19
  of building men. If you are not building men, if
• 46:25
  you build structures more than you build men, you are failing.
• 46:31
  If you build structures more than you build men, you
• 46:35
  are failing. No matter the ministry expansion, no matter the
• 46:42
  network of churches globally, the real index is the kind
• 46:47
  and the quality of men that you are building.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: Jesus said, I will build my church. He was speaking
• 46:54
  of these living stones men.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: And there is a formula for building men. And praying
• 47:00
  again that God will grant us intelligence to come up
• 47:04
  with programs that build men. And you know that building
• 47:08
  men is across various there are. The way you build
• 47:13
  members is different from the way you build leaders.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: Are we together now? Yes?
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: The Bible says strong meat belongs to them who, by
• 47:22
  reason of youse have learned to exercise their senses onto godliness.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you the truth. There are certain.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Things you should not teach new believers. You will destroy them.
• 47:33
  An example, prosperity. The first salmon a young believer should
• 47:37
  hear is not prosperity. You teach a young believer a
• 47:40
  somemone on prosperity, you have destroyed him. He has not
• 47:43
  learned death to the flesh. He's not learned character. He's
• 47:46
  not learned how to live it. Surrender that life, and
• 47:49
  now you open him up to you have only multiplied
• 47:53
  loss upon that person. You will destroy that believer. It
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  is line upon line, precept upon precept. Here to get
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  a little there must be a formula. We must go
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  back and remodel our formula for building believers. There are
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  things a believer most year before he hears about money.
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  There are things a believer most year before.
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  Speaker 1: He hears about influence.
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  Speaker 2: Every topic is not relevant at every level. Line upon line,
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  Jesus being the chief corner stone, show us the ancihanpa.
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  Will you lead us along eternal highway?
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  Speaker 1: We want to fall all.
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  Speaker 4: The way self cheesus, we want to and your ass
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  show us the shaper. Will you lead us along it?
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  Turn on highway? We want to fall all the food.
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  Speaker 1: Steps of cheesus. We want to and your Let me
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  tell you something God revealed to me.
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  Speaker 2: No amount of publicity will bring people more than God
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  himself recommending them to wear house.
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  Speaker 1: He knows they will be trained.
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  Speaker 2: Thank God for billboards, Thank God for Facebook. But there
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  is a mystery that no technology can reproduce as far
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  as bringing men and the Lord added daily daily. If
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  you are not willing to save sein us, it is
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  a useless prayer.
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  Speaker 1: To pray for increase to your church. I'm sorry, but
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  it's the truth.
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  Speaker 2: If you are not willing to pay the price, let
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  me tell you the truth.
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  Speaker 1: By God's grace.
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  Speaker 2: I respect everyone here, but I'm not sure there's anyone
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  here who is up to hundred years.
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  Speaker 1: Men of God, this call is a call to sacrifice.
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  Speaker 2: Let's not allow this geomantality deceivers. Thank God for honor,
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  but please let's drop it aside and serve God's people sincerely.
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  A man of God who is a lazy person should
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  retire from ministry because ministry is about diligence.
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  Speaker 1: Most people desire increase.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: They admire what God is doing in the life of
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  great ministries, but they do not have an understanding of
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  the kind of labor that goes in to be trusted
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  with men. Allelujah, it's a sacrifice. You will never be
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  an effective priest at your convenience. No, we were not
• 50:41
  trained that way. Those who train those labored onto death.
• 50:46
  We saw from them diligence. And I speak with all
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  due respect to those of my generation here. No, the
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  decade away that geo office mentality and get to work.
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  There are souls to say, if you don't have this
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  salmon to preach, go and sit in your study room
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  and be designing a Bible study manual to mentor your people.
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  You can't say there is nothing to do. Honestly, anyone
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  in ministry who only does Sunday to Sunday is a
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  lazy person. Take that from me. There has to be
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  someone to be following up during the week. You know
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  how long it takes to prepare a salmon that is
• 51:24
  balanced and theologically sound, not to scraggle something while they're
• 51:28
  taking offering. And then you come up and say, don't worry,
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  we need to sit down, don't teach people's opinions, get
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  the world study to show yourself approved onto God. A
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  workman that needed not to be a shame. There is
• 51:43
  a relationship between shame and laziness.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Allelujah. Let's encourage our worshipers.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: Don't write songs that are meaningless, songs that just came
• 51:57
  as a result of copying all kinds of things. No,
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  the intelligence that is in your song is where the
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  edification comes from. It's good to sing. Well, what is
• 52:10
  the song saying? Is it helping someone know God? Are
• 52:14
  we together? Let's minimize some of these songs that matchet
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  ignorance prays the name of the Lord. Please someone who
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  has faith self time in Jesus name. I receive grace
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  to feed God's people. I receive grace to feed God's people.
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  You're a man of God. Please go back, woman and
• 52:41
  sit down. I don't condemn you. There are concordances, there
• 52:45
  are lexicons to buy. Are we together? There are manuals
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  people have already labeled for you. For God's sake, Let's
• 52:52
  sit down and get truth and feed God's people. It
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  is at this point that with all due respect, I
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  rest in fact the Catholics and the Anglicans, the pecostus
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  thank God. I mean, with thank God for the ministry
• 53:06
  of the Holy Spirit. But you see, I was raised
• 53:10
  by the Anglican and there was no room for laziness
• 53:15
  the structure.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: If anyone here has passed through.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: The Anglican communion, No, you don't stand and preach opinions.
• 53:22
  The topic is already known, so you wouldn't come and
• 53:24
  preach none says.
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  Speaker 1: With sufficient versus well researched.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir, you would not even serve if you could
• 53:36
  not recite your apostle's creed.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: See that.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Let's it be the name of the Lord. So we
• 53:51
  must obtain grace to build God's people. Your sermons should
• 53:57
  come out of your desire to see God's people, but
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  your sermons will be an overflow of your transformation. You
• 54:05
  cannot feed God's people beyond your level of spiritual transformation.
• 54:09
  Let me repeat that again, you cannot feed God's people
• 54:13
  beyond your level of spiritual transformation. And let me make
• 54:16
  an honest admission to you. There are certain things that
• 54:19
  your people need that you don't have the grace to
• 54:22
  give them. You must have the honest, shamemedness to outsource
• 54:25
  the graces that can help them, graces that are vettered
• 54:29
  across the lines of godliness and character.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: And don't let your people die because of ego.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: If you don't have the grace there are people within
• 54:38
  the body. It's God helping us. I have to give
• 54:44
  us the last area and then we'll stop. Less it
• 54:50
  be the name of the Lord. My final thoughts with
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  us as a contribute to this conference is I want
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  to identify a few issues within the Body of Christ
• 55:07
  that I believe as a recommendation that God is going
• 55:10
  to help us. Part of my call and my mandate
• 55:14
  is to help bring love, unity.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: And balance within the body.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: You'll never find me insulting people, tearing down people tearing
• 55:26
  down another person's ministry, that it has never worked, it
• 55:31
  won't work, allelujah. But the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ,
• 55:39
  from his inception has never been without challenges.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: Please, I wanted to listen carefully.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Having challenges across the body is not necessarily a proof
• 55:48
  of backsliding. In most cases, it's not even a demonic issue.
• 55:52
  It's just the reality that comes with the human nature.
• 55:55
  And if you understand leadership, you know that conflict and
• 55:59
  everything around it is part of growth.
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  Speaker 1: When the Church began to grow, there were issues. Is
• 56:06
  that not so? In your Bible? There were issues.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: You find that in Act chapter six The first issue
• 56:11
  we see that the church had to deal with was
• 56:14
  welfare issue. Some people felt like they were being neglected
• 56:17
  in the daily sharing and the report.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: It first started as a rumor, and.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: Then it got to the apostles, and the apostle said, no,
• 56:24
  we have a mandate and we have a jurisdiction to
• 56:27
  stay in. And this is a lesson for someone. The
• 56:30
  more growth comes, the easier for you to move away
• 56:34
  from the ministry and get into administrative duties. And administrative
• 56:39
  duties are wonderful, but if you do not outsource systems
• 56:42
  that keep you focused, you will stop being a man
• 56:45
  of God and become an excellent administrator. There are people
• 56:52
  the worst thing that happened to you is that you
• 56:54
  grew in ministry that in itself seemed like an attack,
• 57:00
  because you left the ministry of the world and prayer
• 57:03
  and got to serving tables. Tables should be served, but
• 57:07
  he said, no, select some among yourself, but we will
• 57:10
  give ourselves continually.
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: As chapter six hu vers four to prayer and the
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  ministry of the world.
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  Speaker 2: And how many of you know that among those who
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  were selected to save tables, other people rose up from there,
• 57:24
  including the person that the Bible identifies as an evangelist.
• 57:28
  They were ordained to serve tables, but eventually at least
• 57:32
  two of them became mighty men.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: Philip was one of them, Stephen was another. Hallelujah.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: But let's talk about two things or three things as
• 57:44
  I wrap up. There are many challenges in the Body
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  of Christ, and there's almost no end if we have
• 57:51
  to dissect them one by one, because most of those
• 57:54
  challenges are subjective. But I will talk about the issues
• 57:57
  that concern everybody.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Number one and.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: The peer fan Chairman Legos Chapter graciously mentioned one of them.
• 58:06
  I think that as the Body of Christ, we must
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  be able to come up with a statement of faith.
• 58:15
  At what point are you called a Christian? What are
• 58:20
  the parameters that define in Nigerian Christian If we do
• 58:26
  not answer this question with all due respect in the
• 58:31
  next five ten years, they will ship in a lot
• 58:34
  of things into this nation that will pollute the authenticity
• 58:38
  of the faith life. Once there is no definition, anything
• 58:44
  is permissive. There must be a statement of faith. What
• 58:51
  do I have to believe to be a Christian? I
• 58:57
  feel very sad and I think the peer friend you
• 59:04
  know Shaman also mentioned this about Dr Ottterbill you know, bringing.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: That as an observation.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Because the faith work is largely personal, and because of
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  the person of the Holy Spirit and the unique expression
• 59:21
  of the way he trains us, we will have different
• 59:24
  templates as far as I work with God's concern, and.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: That is all right.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: But the danger there is that if it is not
• 59:32
  balanced by the jurisdiction of the world, we can delve
• 59:35
  into anything in the name of the spirit leads. So
• 59:41
  I can walk down right now and slap pastor God
• 59:44
  Man and say, it was an instruction the Holy Ghost
• 59:47
  gave me. Are we together? I'm not being sarcastic now.
• 59:50
  It is difficult to say I'm wrong, because one, you
• 59:53
  are not the Holy Ghost too, you are not me,
• 59:56
  and it's a spiritual thing. But later, after five years,
• 1:00:00
  so I will find out it was a demand that
• 1:00:01
  spoke to me and quietly repent. But while I'm doing that,
• 1:00:06
  I have mentored others across that error, so that slapping
• 1:00:11
  will now become a doctrine.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: Are we learning now?
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: One of the ways error spreads is because it is spiritualized.
• 1:00:22
  Once error is spiritualized, it is difficult to tame it
• 1:00:26
  because the basis for taming it will look like being.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: You are being a What's the world?
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: Now?
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: Are we together? Now?
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: No matter your work with God, the template on how
• 1:00:40
  the spirit of God works with people will always be
• 1:00:43
  consistent with the character of Scripture. We are not the
• 1:00:47
  first to receive all kinds of instructions, and I tell
• 1:00:50
  you God can give sometimes very challenging instructions.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: Are we together now? As a man of God?
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: God has given me instruction that cannot be a doctrine.
• 1:01:02
  Now there are three layers of learning spiritually. Number one
• 1:01:06
  is called a historic learning historic a geological learning. The
• 1:01:12
  second kind of learning is called a doctrinal learning. The
• 1:01:16
  third kind is called personalized dealings. Well, because of your
• 1:01:20
  work with God and the unique expression of God's grace,
• 1:01:24
  he will lead you to a pathway that is only
• 1:01:26
  for you. You are never supposed to replicate that unique dealing.
• 1:01:31
  If not you to destroy another believer. I give you
• 1:01:35
  an instance. God may check my heart and say to
• 1:01:40
  it that if it gives me many houses and many cars,
• 1:01:43
  because of my level of alignmental submission, it may lead
• 1:01:47
  me into partition. And because of that, in order to
• 1:01:51
  manage that tendency of the flesh in me, he will
• 1:01:53
  give me a unique instruction, never have more than three houses,
• 1:01:58
  never have more than three cars. And once I work
• 1:02:01
  in keeping with that instruction, I will flourish in ministry.
• 1:02:04
  So when you do an interview for me and say
• 1:02:07
  what is the secret of your success, I will tell
• 1:02:10
  you I do not have more.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: Than three class and three houses.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: If you now men taught that personalized dealing, maybe you
• 1:02:17
  aressiment requires ten houses.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: You are in trouble already. Are we together now?
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: Because our personalized dealings with God produced results in our lives,
• 1:02:29
  chances are excellent that as we men taught those who
• 1:02:32
  are around us, we also bring our unique dealings and
• 1:02:36
  turn it into a doctrine because of the result that
• 1:02:39
  it produced.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: This is one of the causes of error in the body.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: So God can tell someone slab the person on the
• 1:02:46
  wheelchair three times a defined instruction one two three, and
• 1:02:52
  the person Jompson, the young man who watch you now,
• 1:02:56
  will organize a cusaide and bring a son of a
• 1:03:01
  police officer who is on a wheelchair and slap him
• 1:03:05
  three times. The guy will not get up, and the
• 1:03:07
  boy will go to jail. And we blame the Holy ghost.
• 1:03:12
  It is not the Holy Spirit. Is that we do
• 1:03:14
  not know the difference between God's unique dealing to you
• 1:03:18
  and what is doctrine. Now allelujah, Never build ministry out
• 1:03:32
  of personal visionary experiences, no matter how spectacular, you will
• 1:03:37
  be destroying the ministry.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: We're rapping up. Are we together? Now?
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: I've heard by the messes of God, I am one
• 1:03:44
  who has been graced to live in the reality of
• 1:03:46
  angelic encounters, encounters of the Holy Spirit. There are encounters
• 1:03:51
  that if I bring us my personal experience, it would
• 1:03:54
  destroy many people in the body of Christ. Not because
• 1:03:57
  it is erroneous, but the nature, the instructions, the things
• 1:04:01
  that God gave, the kinds of instructions that came from
• 1:04:05
  that encounter. It was from my personal edification, and it
• 1:04:09
  was not because it worked for me does not mean
• 1:04:12
  I automatically turn it into a doctrine. And sometimes the
• 1:04:17
  error comes. Sincerely, it's just people telling you their story
• 1:04:20
  how it worked for them. Not every story is a testimony.
• 1:04:24
  There are some you keep to yourself.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: We have to pray your grace, your grace. Have nothing
• 1:04:41
  we felt you.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 6: Your grace. Your grace shines on me. It's your grace,
• 1:04:59
  your grace.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: I'm nothing without you.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Pray you Allelujah. I may not have the time to
• 1:05:17
  discuss it, but please write it down.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: Number one, you need a statement of faith that guides
• 1:05:23
  your life.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: How far is far in your work with God?
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: How far is far as far as the church you
• 1:05:32
  are leading is concern. All things are lawful, but not
• 1:05:36
  all things are expedient by the message of God. I
• 1:05:40
  have the privilege of preaching across several places, several denominations,
• 1:05:45
  and as a principle, I learn to adapt to whatever
• 1:05:49
  is the modus of randy of any church that I find.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: But I have my personal convictions.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: I don't preach everywhere because I agree with everything there.
• 1:05:57
  I have my reservations. However, it is not enough reason
• 1:06:01
  for differences. But as far as mentoring and building those
• 1:06:05
  under your care concern, you have to define what being
• 1:06:09
  a spiritual person is. Define the parameters for true spirituality.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: Number two. The second challenge that I wish I.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: Had the time to talk about was the fact that
• 1:06:24
  many people are in ministry who have been wounded and
• 1:06:28
  did not stay to be healed, and they got into ministry.
• 1:06:32
  As simple as this sounds, it is dangerous to carry
• 1:06:37
  the mantle.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: Of priesthood when you are not healed.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: A scar is proved that a wound was once there
• 1:06:44
  but is now healed. And if that scar is not
• 1:06:47
  If that wound is not healed, God does not send
• 1:06:50
  you most of the envying, the jealousy, the bad, biting,
• 1:06:57
  and lots of things that we see happening.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: Across the body of Christ. The root of it.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: Is that people have pains that came from their background
• 1:07:07
  that they did not stay with the spirit to be
• 1:07:10
  healed from. Then their spirituallizes that pain. Are we together
• 1:07:14
  now growing up in life and ministry, I really did
• 1:07:20
  not know that emotional wounds were real.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: I just focused on physical wounds.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: But now as God has helped me to grow, I
• 1:07:29
  have seen that emotional.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: Wounds can be like diabetes. It can stay there for years.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: There are people carrying all kinds of pain, their angers.
• 1:07:42
  What send them to go and pray? And first, the
• 1:07:45
  search for the annoying was not to bless people. It
• 1:07:47
  was from a standpoint of competition. Let me tell you this,
• 1:07:52
  only wounded people wound orders. When you are healed, you
• 1:07:57
  don't wound orders when you rejoice over the pain of
• 1:08:01
  another man and not that person's ministry.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: When you are happy, when you see people going down.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: No matter how you spiritualize it, it is because there
• 1:08:10
  is an injury. Psychologists are wise enough, and most of
• 1:08:14
  us have churches full of intelligent people. They can look
• 1:08:18
  at you as a pastor and know that this salmon
• 1:08:21
  is not the Holy Spirit. This salmon came from your background.
• 1:08:24
  It came from your pain. You are trying to manage
• 1:08:27
  your frustrations. Listen, listen, listen. I really I have to
• 1:08:38
  honor the time and stop, and then all of you
• 1:08:40
  are here. But I want you to please get this.
• 1:08:44
  You need to go and stay with the Holy Spirit
• 1:08:47
  and say, heal me. Oh God, I don't know what injury. Joseph.
• 1:08:53
  Your brothers threw you in the pitch. You are not
• 1:08:55
  even aware that you are wounded already. Make sure you
• 1:08:58
  are healed before you see them. It took a healed
• 1:09:01
  Joseph to ignore the wickedness.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Of his brothers.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: It took a healed Joseph to not punish fortify. If
• 1:09:09
  I am Joseph, as I'm coming out as a prime minister,
• 1:09:12
  who is the first person you call? But if I
• 1:09:17
  where are you? You are the wife? Get back into
• 1:09:20
  that prison. Let me tell you this. Let me tell
• 1:09:25
  you this. Most of us came from Polygamo's families. You
• 1:09:29
  did not realize the effect. Most of us probably did
• 1:09:32
  not go to school early. Most of our parents made
• 1:09:36
  nasty comments, and you did not know that he was
• 1:09:39
  wound upon wound.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: They called you a failure.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: They said you will never amount to anything. Just because
• 1:09:45
  you are old doesn't mean you are healed. You can
• 1:09:49
  be old in age still carrying the wound of childhood.
• 1:09:53
  So you don't know why you are an angry man
• 1:09:55
  of God. The moment someone says this your shoe is
• 1:09:58
  he original or fake? That can become a.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: Two year war.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: He was just throwing a joke, but the joke taughts
• 1:10:05
  an injury. Listen carefully, we're rappin of what you need
• 1:10:11
  to hear this. If we want to see unity, there
• 1:10:15
  is a revelation that brings unity.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: Are we together healed?
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: There are preachers that are not healed. That is the
• 1:10:25
  reason why there is fight for membership. There are preachers
• 1:10:28
  that are not healed. Is the reason why we disor
• 1:10:31
  no elderly people. Are we together now?
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: Most of the things we do, from a fake life,
• 1:10:40
  to selling lives on the internet, to trying to use
• 1:10:44
  dressing to show that fate is working. All of those
• 1:10:47
  things are proof of a wound that. I'm telling you this.
• 1:10:51
  When a young man gets into ministry and in one
• 1:10:54
  year his dream is just to buy a private jet
• 1:10:57
  have the largest charge, he may not be wrong, but
• 1:11:00
  a young man has been wounded. He does not even
• 1:11:02
  know what is motivating. This is not always demons. Demons
• 1:11:09
  are surprised themselves because what they did and what they
• 1:11:13
  did not do.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: We'reout blaming them. We're going to pray. You've been patient. Listen.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: Most of you ask your congregations for extra time. Let
• 1:11:31
  me ask you for extra time. Now we're going to pray.
• 1:11:44
  Listen to me, please hear me. What do you think
• 1:11:48
  will become of a general overseer's wife who was wounded
• 1:11:53
  by her stepmother, call the bad lady, prostitute, called whatever.
• 1:11:59
  Now she's married, man of God, she's in a church.
• 1:12:02
  Most likely she will look at every other woman's dressing.
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  She's not a bad woman, She's only a wounded woman.
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  Who is this woman always dressing? Rich Marcraft for me,
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  all these useless wars in church.
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  Speaker 1: I am telling you the chure is not just reconciliation.
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  The cure is healing.
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  Speaker 2: Because I have a mindset that if I celebrate first
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  the god Man, and I celebrate the work he is doing.
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  What if I lose my relevance that orientation came as
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  a result of a wound. Aircrafts don't crash in the
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  air because there is space for every aircraft, no matter
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  how big it is. Some of you right here, you.
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  Speaker 1: Are in this place. I know we are past us.
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  Speaker 2: Let God use me for one minute to heal someone
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  before we wrap up.
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  Speaker 1: There are some of you who cannot see yourself.
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  Speaker 2: You are here now, but you cannot look eyeborn to
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  eyeborn because you are angry. And most of those who
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  have that anger don't have growth.
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  Speaker 1: So what you're fighting about is not it Truly, it's unnecessary.
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  Speaker 2: You are looking for something to blame, and if there's
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  nobody else to blame, your wife becomes a victim.
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  Speaker 1: Listen to me, Men of God.
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  Speaker 2: We have lost valuable people in our churches because we've
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  not been able.
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  Speaker 1: To tame our anger, tame our jealousy.
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  Speaker 2: Some of you are jealous even with your children and
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  your sons and daughters, till who you raise you still
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  fights them. It's not because you want them to fail.
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  It's because you want to succeed alone, and that succeeding
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  alone came because you did not take first position. You
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  watch awards given to people, and there is still the
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  craven of a primary school child crying within an individual
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  soil you wanting to be celebrated alone.
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  Speaker 1: Let me teach you something.
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  Speaker 2: Let's let's do a little consultant and say this is
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  not a man of God.
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  Speaker 1: Now. The highest psychological.
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  Speaker 2: Need of any man, including you looking at me, is
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  the need to feel loved, the need to feel valued,
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  and the need to feel appreciated. Say aftime, he loved,
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  say valued, Say appreciated one more time, say loved, valued, appreciated. Anybody,
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  including your spouse, who valulates that law becomes your enemy.
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  I'll tell you where your words are coming from, because
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  someone bruised your ego knowingly or knowingly. You stepped into
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  a meeting and the person tree realized your apostleship, and
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  you walked out of that meeting matching his face, and he.
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  Speaker 1: Became your enemy forever. Tonight be healed.
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  Speaker 2: Healed.
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  Speaker 1: You have been wounding your congregations.
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  Speaker 2: You tell tell them you are shouting at them because
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  they went left.
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  Speaker 1: They moved right, you still shouted.
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  Speaker 2: It's not the direction, it's you, PF and I'm sorry,
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  or you invited me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry sorry. Now please, everybody's done.
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  Everybody's done. I'm going to give you the next five minutes.
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  I like you to walk to everybody you can find
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  and just tell them I bless you and I honor you.
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  Go ahead, God bless you. Hold the person, whether you
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  know the person or not. I bless you, and I
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  honor you. We fought during the crusade, but we're still Christians.
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  God bless you. God bless you. God bless you, God
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  bless you. We are neighbors, but I've never entered your
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  chance to see what God is doing.
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  Speaker 1: Please appreciate someone. I honor you.
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  Speaker 2: You may have party members, but I appreciate you. You
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  may have two members, but I appreciate you. Take a minute.
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  You'll soon return to your seat. Make sure you celebrate them.
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  I don't care how many members you have. I know
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  you are still learning.
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  Speaker 7: We may not be at the same level of grace,
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  but just for you to know that we are stronger together,
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  stronger together, stronger together, strong go together.
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  Speaker 1: You are the one that we prey. You are the
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  word we so listen.
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  Speaker 2: Please return back to your seats rejoicing. We're out of time.
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  Return back to your seats. We're about to pray. Return
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  back to your seat. I know you are a prophet.
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  I respect you as a prophet. I know you are
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  an apostle. I respect you as an apostle. I don't
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  downplay your stay.
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  Speaker 1: Listen. Let me tell you this.
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  Speaker 2: When you derive joy in demeaning the relevance of another
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  man of God, it does not make you great. Fathers. Please,
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  we're rapping up. We're rapping up. Let me have your attention. Please,
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  God wants to tell us something serious. Now listen, please, fathers,
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  you are greatly honored, but respect the songs. They have
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  an advantage of time and can learn experience from you.
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  Every father has shown us what he can become, but
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  we do not yet know what the sons will become. Eli,
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  you play the role in the life of sam Well,
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  but don't demean that young boy. That is the prophet
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  who will ordain soul. That is the prophet who will
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  ordain David Sons. Respect fathers.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what they preach.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how many times you travel to the
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  spirit and come back, you are still a son. If
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  a baby takes ten teens of breast milk, the baby
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  does not become an adult. The baby becomes a healthy baby. Allelujah.
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  Let me speak especially to younger people in ministry. Don't
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  follow this blind and foolish campaign of pointing fingers against fathers.
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  Tell you, the more I grow in ministry, the more
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  I'm silent. When you see father's quiet. Find out why
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  young people have seen without wisdom. When a father says
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  and keeps quiet, keep quiet as a young man to
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  you'll be wiser. I way together, contemporaries, let's respect ourselves.
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  Speaker 7: Now.
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  Speaker 2: If you find somebody's ministry. People are not idiots. They're
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  know truth when they see it. And the moment you
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  begin to find people, you'll make you show your insecurity.
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  Speaker 1: It comes on display.
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  Speaker 2: Because those who are helped by God walk ever conscious
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  of His messy over their lives.
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  Speaker 1: So I will end my session by saying this.
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  Speaker 2: Apostle John, speaking by the spirit, he wrote to three
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  groups of people.
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  Speaker 1: I write to you fathers, I write to you young men.
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  I write to you children. No matter the category of
• 1:20:08
  Asian experience in ministry. There is something written to you,
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  a letter from God.
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  Speaker 2: What God is telling the fathers is not what he's
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  telling the young men. No, the fathers have wisdom and experience.
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  The young men have strength, The children have maniability of heart.
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  You can make them become anything.
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  Speaker 1: Hold hands with someone about the rabble. Lord, makers, instruments
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  are your peace where there is hate trend, let your
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  love you clues. Lord, make classy truments.
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  Speaker 5: Your all. Surpride and pregedice chases.
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  Speaker 2: When we are your instru men, Let's look at me,
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  man of God. If your principles and practices are wrong,
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  I don't condemn you or change if you are being mentored.
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  When I say unity, I don't mean embracing everything, because
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  there are things in the body of Christ that are
• 1:21:37
  absolute nonsense.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: Don't mistaken what I'm saying if it is not.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: Jesus crucified, if it is not Jesus glorified, if it
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  is not Jesus revealed. So when we talk of coming together,
• 1:21:50
  we're not saying don't carry Rachel. Leave the idols of
• 1:21:54
  your father's house. There is a better covenant with God.
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  Speaker 1: There are some of us.
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  Speaker 2: It was mentorship that led you into all kinds of
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  extra biblical practices.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: While we do not condemn you, there is room for repentance. Change.
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  Now use this conference to change.
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  Speaker 2: Some of you were taught by wrong friends manipulative ways
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  to raise money for church. There are veterans with understanding
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  who can help you on how to structure church finances
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  with integrity.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: Find them, Go and sit down under their meetings and learn.
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  Speaker 2: There are some of us who have all kinds of
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  character challenges. These are things you have been ignoring for
• 1:22:35
  a long time, but this is telling on you. Gopa
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  can work on yourself at every level.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: Growth is still possible. Are we together now?
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  Speaker 2: So when I say this, the Bible says to examine
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  ourselves whether we are still in the faith.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, there are people I love, but they cannot be
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  my friends.
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  Speaker 2: I love them sincerely, but until I see the degree
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  of your yieldedness to and His purposes. I love you
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  from afar and I wish you well, but it would
• 1:23:04
  be a risk to bring you into my space. Your
• 1:23:08
  emotional carelessness is not healthy for friendship with me. Your
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  level of indiscipline with anything at all, Say anything you
• 1:23:19
  want to say, do anything you want to do. Turn'mp
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  into people's house, collect their cast, collect you whatever in
• 1:23:26
  the name.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: Of prophetic instructions. I love you, but change.
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  Speaker 2: Don't harass any member to collect money from them they
• 1:23:34
  didn't send you. If you are bankrupt, go to the
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  one who sent you and saying what was the strategy
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  for my feeding?
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: Are well together? I have to say this. We cannot
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  end the pastor's conference without pointing this. The truth is
• 1:23:50
  that some of you have lost your honor.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: It said that like in leave because of character issues.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: Your issue was not revelation.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: You lack character. Once you drop down from the poor
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  det you are almost as if you're never given your
• 1:24:03
  life to Christ. There are young people that jearlessness started
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  from campus and there was no system to tame it.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: Some of us are learning all kinds of rubbish. Lend
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  me all kinds of rubbish. It has to change.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: Anybody who is coming to your church, plundering you or
• 1:24:26
  making you stop wealthy people in your church, or all
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  kinds of character challenges. I don't condemn you, never will
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  I we're products of God's messy. But for God's sake,
• 1:24:36
  some of you may need to take a break for
• 1:24:38
  a few weeks and sit down with a seasoned man
• 1:24:41
  of God, and say, help me. I have anger, help
• 1:24:44
  me I have lost, help me I have wa again, jealousy, glitterness, envy,
• 1:24:52
  ah unforgiveness over my dead body.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no no. Repent now repent. This
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  is why we're holding hands. One prayer and I leave
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  this place.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: Show me messy your God. Don't pray for your congregation.
• 1:25:08
  Don't worry about your congregation. Pray for yourself. Obtain messy.
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  Work upon my heart. Someone, pray, walk upon my heart.
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  Speaker 1: Give me longevity of impacting ministry.
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  Speaker 2: Let me be a person of love. Knowingly, send knowingly,
• 1:25:26
  shend knowingly. Let me become a puld to the body
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  noted destroyer. Someone, go ahead and pray. Repent for the
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  manipulations you may have cause to the members of your church.
• 1:25:38
  Ask God to show you messy. The Lord is nigh
• 1:25:42
  them that call upon it. Make a tie before God.
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  I'm ready to do ministry with integrity from today. Integrity
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  from today given to prayer, given to the body of
• 1:25:56
  the world, given to lef Borring to build God's people.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead and pray. Let it be from the depth
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  of your heart.