Latest / Moser, Lombardi and Kane / 1-28-26 Hour 1 - Nugs fall to Pistons at Ball/Payton & Paton address the media/Maximizing the roster
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardy and Caine on demand. Listen live
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- 0:19Speaker 2: Murray the free throw line to Fource sober time with
- 0:21Speaker 2: points seven seconds to go, no pressure. What a crazy game.
- 0:27Speaker 2: This is free throw number one for Jamal Good needs
- 0:34Speaker 2: two more. Second free throw for Jamal sure, third free
- 0:42Speaker 2: throw for Jamal. This is an on purpose rebound swatted
- 0:45Speaker 2: out and there's the horn.
- 0:48Speaker 3: Fun game. Weird game.
- 0:50Speaker 2: But Denver loses to the Detroit Pisson tonight by a
- 0:53Speaker 2: final of one o nine to one oh seven.
- 0:57Speaker 4: Nuggets lose last night.
- 0:59Speaker 5: Seven A lot of audio from the law firm of
- 1:03Speaker 5: Peyton and Peyton today Sean and George speaking to the
- 1:05Speaker 5: media yesterday as we exit into the offseason for the Broncos.
- 1:09Speaker 5: Also Jared Bednar at eight o'clock this morning. But the
- 1:12Speaker 5: Nuggets last night. Here's the thing when you are missing
- 1:17Speaker 5: the amount of guys that they're missing, and Jamal and
- 1:20Speaker 5: Peyton Watson both have off nights. Like Jamal was pretty
- 1:23Speaker 5: bad in the first half, he said as much was
- 1:25Speaker 5: better than the second, but missed the free throws obviously
- 1:27Speaker 5: in crunch time, it's gonna be really really hard to win,
- 1:31Speaker 5: especially against a team that's the number one team in
- 1:33Speaker 5: the Eastern Conference. I think they played their asses off,
- 1:37Speaker 5: though I don't know about you, Vick. That felt like
- 1:39Speaker 5: a game that in the fourth quarter, you're down ten,
- 1:42Speaker 5: you don't have your A game or whatever game you
- 1:44Speaker 5: want to call this unit, it's currently constructed, you don't
- 1:48Speaker 5: have it. And I was like, I wonder if they're
- 1:50Speaker 5: just gonna kind of pack it in the fourth and
- 1:52Speaker 5: they fought.
- 1:53Speaker 4: They fought to the very bitter end.
- 1:55Speaker 6: Let me be very clear here, the fact that the
- 1:57Speaker 6: Denver Nuggets had a chance to win that game at
- 1:59Speaker 6: the end, in the fact that they're still missing four starters, yeah,
- 2:04Speaker 6: against the best team in the East. The fact that
- 2:06Speaker 6: they had a chance to win that game is a
- 2:09Speaker 6: Christmas miracle, all right.
- 2:12Speaker 7: That's one thing. Here's the other.
- 2:14Speaker 6: I have never in my life seen a situation where
- 2:18Speaker 6: the same player on the opposing team fouls the same
- 2:22Speaker 6: player on the offensive team twice at the three point
- 2:26Speaker 6: line in the final three seconds of a game. Not
- 2:29Speaker 6: only do I think it's the first time it's happened
- 2:31Speaker 6: in the NBA, I think it might be the first
- 2:33Speaker 6: time it's happened in the history of basketball, the history Earth,
- 2:36Speaker 6: since Earth was around.
- 2:37Speaker 4: Even a pickup game.
- 2:39Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't think that's ever happened.
- 2:41Speaker 5: I also think it's insane that they actually called that twice.
- 2:45Speaker 6: I was obviously didn't I didn't have the benefit of
- 2:47Speaker 6: replays because I was there and I did not see
- 2:50Speaker 6: either one.
- 2:52Speaker 7: So you tell me how.
- 2:53Speaker 5: Well, I'll just say, like the first one, I saw
- 2:56Speaker 5: the replace, I still couldn't tell. Maybe he got ball,
- 2:59Speaker 5: maybe he got maybe you didn't, maybe get arm I
- 3:01Speaker 5: don't know if you saw it, Mosh.
- 3:03Speaker 3: The second one, I couldn't. I couldn't. I really couldn't tell.
- 3:06Speaker 5: Yeah, I couldn't tell either. So I'm like, okay, they
- 3:09Speaker 5: don't have a challenge, tough luck. And then Jamal missed it.
- 3:11Speaker 4: Now damn.
- 3:13Speaker 6: So if you're Nuggets, that happens to you, pssed.
- 3:16Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, that's what I'm trying to get out.
- 3:18Speaker 5: The second one, especially, it's like Jamal was just wildly
- 3:21Speaker 5: throwing something up, falling down.
- 3:23Speaker 4: It's like to get a foul call there was crazy.
- 3:26Speaker 8: Although although I have seen guys in this league bailed
- 3:29Speaker 8: out in that situation, before I know it's not without precedence.
- 3:34Speaker 8: I couldn't help myself though, kind of like what we
- 3:37Speaker 8: were talking about yesterday when I look at the Pistons
- 3:39Speaker 8: and the number, the number one. Are we saying there
- 3:42Speaker 8: the number one seat in the East.
- 3:44Speaker 6: Nelly, Yeah, that there is not real. You ain't lying.
- 3:51Speaker 6: That's that's that team's not gonna championship.
- 3:54Speaker 7: I just needed to see.
- 3:55Speaker 4: What they're a fun team. Though they're fun team.
- 3:57Speaker 3: Boys.
- 3:57Speaker 8: This is this is I mean, over the weeks though,
- 3:59Speaker 8: this is bec I'm so abundantly clear.
- 4:02Speaker 3: You're down four starters. You have to have a lot
- 4:05Speaker 3: of things.
- 4:05Speaker 8: Go right and you can beat I think you can
- 4:07Speaker 8: beat pretty much anybody if things are going right.
- 4:09Speaker 3: Right, if Jamal's making.
- 4:11Speaker 8: All his threes and he was zero for six last night,
- 4:12Speaker 8: you know, if things are going right and guys are
- 4:15Speaker 8: picking it up, you can beat anybody. But inevitably you're
- 4:19Speaker 8: down four starters, and then you're gonna lose games like
- 4:22Speaker 8: this when not everything is going right. So I'm not
- 4:25Speaker 8: worried about it at all. Well, and if that's the
- 4:27Speaker 8: best the East can do, all you got to do
- 4:29Speaker 8: is win the West.
- 4:30Speaker 3: Let me just say you, I'm saying it right now.
- 4:32Speaker 8: All you gotta do, all you have to do is
- 4:36Speaker 8: win the West, okay Vic, and then everything else will
- 4:39Speaker 8: be anti climactic.
- 4:40Speaker 5: So here's what I would say in regards to Jamal.
- 4:44Speaker 5: And I know it's like, hey, man, make your free throws.
- 4:49Speaker 5: You're an eighty eight percent free throw shooter. I don't
- 4:51Speaker 5: know if you saw him think, I mean, I know
- 4:52Speaker 5: you're on the sideline. He looked ghassed at the end
- 4:56Speaker 5: of that game.
- 4:56Speaker 6: Yeah, he looked.
- 4:57Speaker 4: Absolutely.
- 4:58Speaker 7: They're all exhausted.
- 5:00Speaker 6: I mean, and it's easy to say, well, they didn't
- 5:02Speaker 6: play in Memphis yet, but they sat on a plane
- 5:04Speaker 6: for seven hours.
- 5:05Speaker 7: The travel gets to you. The first game back.
- 5:07Speaker 6: I told you guys yesterday, the toughest game on any
- 5:10Speaker 6: home stand is the first game after coming back into town.
- 5:13Speaker 7: It's just a tough one.
- 5:14Speaker 4: It's also he's playing thirty eight minutes a night with
- 5:16Speaker 4: Joker out. I mean that too.
- 5:18Speaker 6: Yeah, he looks worn. Yes, he looks worn out, and
- 5:21Speaker 6: you know it could have affected him. I could tell
- 5:23Speaker 6: early that his shot wasn't necessarily there, his three point
- 5:26Speaker 6: shot wasn't Listen. You could look at this game both ways.
- 5:29Speaker 6: You could say that the Pistons gave you every opportunity
- 5:33Speaker 6: to steal a game.
- 5:34Speaker 7: They did.
- 5:35Speaker 6: They only made six threes. The Detroit Pistons were six
- 5:39Speaker 6: of thirty one from three. Their best three point sniper
- 5:43Speaker 6: Duncan Robinson was oh for eight. They were awful. They
- 5:47Speaker 6: let you back in the game. You had a chance
- 5:50Speaker 6: to steal a game. That's fine. At the same time
- 5:55Speaker 6: you're out four starters and the fact you're in that game, yeah,
- 5:58Speaker 6: down eighteen early is amazing.
- 6:00Speaker 3: Well.
- 6:00Speaker 5: And on top of that, and we have a bunch
- 6:03Speaker 5: of audio from George Peyton Sean Payton that we'll get
- 6:06Speaker 5: to and in just a little bit the I'll say
- 6:11Speaker 5: this about Jamal because then we get the text.
- 6:14Speaker 4: Nicely done.
- 6:15Speaker 5: Jamal White choke once and you can choke twice. Let
- 6:17Speaker 5: me tell you something that Jamal Murray this year. I
- 6:19Speaker 5: think he's been incredible, not just with his play inconsistency.
- 6:24Speaker 5: Vic I heard him at the postgame presser yesterday. So
- 6:28Speaker 5: go ahead, now you run it.
- 6:29Speaker 9: I just gotta be better.
- 6:30Speaker 10: You know, I had to go with an opportunity there twice.
- 6:34Speaker 10: Wants to redeem myself.
- 6:36Speaker 9: This wasn't my night. I just gotta be better. I
- 6:39Speaker 9: gotta be better, just all throughout the game, not just
- 6:42Speaker 9: missfree throws.
- 6:43Speaker 1: I just.
- 6:45Speaker 10: You know, wasn't.
- 6:46Speaker 5: A I didn't.
- 6:49Speaker 10: Play well today. Stats they otherwise, but I didn't feel
- 6:53Speaker 10: like I had a major im back on the game.
- 6:56Speaker 10: I didn't take an advantage of my opportunities.
- 6:59Speaker 9: I played too. He mean, we got all this causes
- 7:02Speaker 9: on the world, but I just gotta be better.
- 7:04Speaker 4: Let me tell you something about Jamal.
- 7:06Speaker 5: For years, Jamal, even after a bad game in a
- 7:09Speaker 5: postgame press conference setting, would be prickly and be like, oh, yeah,
- 7:12Speaker 5: you know what I'm talking about. He's attitude like oh whatever,
- 7:17Speaker 5: like you, I'm great. I think even his attitude is
- 7:20Speaker 5: different this year. I think that sort of stuff. He's
- 7:23Speaker 5: taken responsibility for things. I'd like kind of everything I'm
- 7:26Speaker 5: seeing from Jamal this.
- 7:27Speaker 6: Seasons, get.
- 7:30Speaker 8: Big will say. Listening to him talk, he's taking the responsibility.
- 7:34Speaker 8: That's a mature way to handle it because the lots
- 7:35Speaker 8: on his shoulders with.
- 7:36Speaker 3: These guys out. I wish that those.
- 7:40Speaker 8: Comments were coming from made Watson for his game last night,
- 7:44Speaker 8: And I don't want to put excuse me too much
- 7:47Speaker 8: on the kid.
- 7:48Speaker 6: I think Peyton Watson played hurt. He was a Grimacene
- 7:51Speaker 6: even in the locker room afterwards. I don't think he's
- 7:54Speaker 6: one hundred percent. I don't think he's close to one
- 7:56Speaker 6: hundred percent. He took like three nasty falls in the
- 7:59Speaker 6: game to last, and I think he's playing hurt. To
- 8:02Speaker 6: be totally honest to you that you could tell by
- 8:04Speaker 6: the way he's shooting the ball that was not him
- 8:06Speaker 6: last night.
- 8:07Speaker 7: That's number one.
- 8:08Speaker 6: Number two, when you listen to that postgame sound, it
- 8:11Speaker 6: still strikes me the postgame press conference area is right
- 8:15Speaker 6: the adjoining wall is the wall to the visiting locker room.
- 8:19Speaker 6: So every time the Nuggets lose a key game and
- 8:22Speaker 6: they have to talk to the media, all you hear
- 8:24Speaker 6: is celebration and music from the adjoining locker room drives
- 8:28Speaker 6: me crazy, drives me nuts. And I don't know if
- 8:32Speaker 6: there's anything you can't redesign the place. Maybe you can
- 8:35Speaker 6: move the press conference to the other side.
- 8:38Speaker 7: Oh, just hearing that drives me crazy.
- 8:41Speaker 5: Yeah, But anyway, Nuggets lose one nine, one oh seven,
- 8:46Speaker 5: still on a really good pace. Seams yesterday gave an
- 8:49Speaker 5: update about Joker that he'll be reevaluated in a week.
- 8:52Speaker 7: That's surprising to me.
- 8:54Speaker 4: Surprising that it's another week.
- 8:57Speaker 8: Yeah, I thought he might be. I thought he might
- 8:59Speaker 8: be on the best track a little bit of a.
- 9:01Speaker 5: Don't you do you think the win loss record in
- 9:03Speaker 5: his absence has a little bit more to do with
- 9:04Speaker 5: maybe them taking it more easy.
- 9:07Speaker 6: No, coach Atleman claims that the way they're playing doesn't matter,
- 9:12Speaker 6: that they're just going to watch him and and react
- 9:15Speaker 6: to how he is feeling. But I'd have to say
- 9:18Speaker 6: it helps. It helps when your team is winning more
- 9:21Speaker 6: than losing. What are they now nine and six without him?
- 9:24Speaker 6: I think they're nine and sea something like that. So
- 9:26Speaker 6: that's still a winning record without him. Nobody could have
- 9:29Speaker 6: expected that. However, Guys, take a look at the schedule.
- 9:34Speaker 6: Take a look at the schedule. Here you got Brooklyn
- 9:38Speaker 6: Thursday night. After that? Whoa, whoa is all I'm telling you.
- 9:45Speaker 4: Yeah, the Clippers, who have.
- 9:47Speaker 6: More are just lights out. You know, the Clippers are
- 9:49Speaker 6: the first team in NBA history to go three and
- 9:52Speaker 6: sixteen in the stretch, follow up three and sixteen by
- 9:56Speaker 6: going sixteen and three.
- 9:57Speaker 5: Thinking about that, really turn it around. So it's l
- 10:00Speaker 5: It's okay, See it's Detroit again.
- 10:03Speaker 4: Yeah, you had a few games coming up. There's tough.
- 10:05Speaker 3: There must be something in the water.
- 10:09Speaker 8: Do you know how bad the Buffalo Sabers were to
- 10:12Speaker 8: start this season?
- 10:15Speaker 4: Well, they were terrible. So is Winnipeg. Winnipeg was awful.
- 10:20Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 10:21Speaker 8: Do you realize that the best team in the league
- 10:24Speaker 8: since like the second week in December, really best team
- 10:28Speaker 8: in the national, best team in the National Hockey League.
- 10:34Speaker 3: Yeah, think that's going on.
- 10:35Speaker 4: They get a plus twenty gold afranchia right now too.
- 10:38Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 10:38Speaker 8: They didn't do anything different other than fire their GM
- 10:40Speaker 8: and hire a new GM. Will you remember you remember
- 10:45Speaker 8: when the Blues won the Cup that year? It's because
- 10:47Speaker 8: they called up Bennington and he got hot and they
- 10:49Speaker 8: and they went crazy.
- 10:50Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. It changed a damn thing. Played awesome.
- 10:55Speaker 6: I just I yearned for the day when I can
- 10:58Speaker 6: watch a Nuggets game and everybody's available to play. It's
- 11:03Speaker 6: been so long, eighty four years.
- 11:10Speaker 8: I'm just I'm not talking about let's see, let's see
- 11:12Speaker 8: you could do the best, old lady in eighty four.
- 11:17Speaker 3: Go ahead, bick one more time.
- 11:19Speaker 6: It's been eighty four years.
- 11:21Speaker 3: It's not bad, Okay, I'll.
- 11:23Speaker 6: Go it's been eighty four years. You overly dramatic as usual, overacted.
- 11:31Speaker 6: You're overacting, right.
- 11:34Speaker 4: Eighty four years.
- 11:40Speaker 6: I'm the closest to resembling an old lady, so it
- 11:42Speaker 6: works best with me. You guys know it's been eighty
- 11:47Speaker 6: four years.
- 11:47Speaker 8: Right, Todd Todd Bull's telling his Titanic story one more time, Nelly.
- 11:53Speaker 3: Please you know it.
- 11:54Speaker 6: It's been eighty four years.
- 11:55Speaker 3: Right, that's so good.
- 12:00Speaker 5: Which is different is that movie if Todd Bowles is
- 12:02Speaker 5: the person that has the jewel and not the old lady.
- 12:05Speaker 8: Yeah, hey, listen, I know it's been but it's not
- 12:10Speaker 8: gonna stop me.
- 12:12Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no.
- 12:13Speaker 4: What is How would Crunkite say it?
- 12:15Speaker 8: No?
- 12:16Speaker 3: Broke off? He broke aw? Yeah ha, this was hambro baw.
- 12:20Speaker 8: It's been any wharri years since that moss shank to
- 12:24Speaker 8: the bottom, I'll be Alana, since the old Lady was
- 12:29Speaker 8: on the bow dude and kicked him off the door
- 12:34Speaker 8: and told him.
- 12:35Speaker 4: Have you guys seen the alternate ending.
- 12:37Speaker 8: By you had the friggin diamond the whole friggin high
- 12:39Speaker 8: I mean she throw it back on the ocean.
- 12:41Speaker 5: Have you guess there was an alternate ending to that
- 12:43Speaker 5: movie where she gives the jewel to the.
- 12:46Speaker 4: To what's his face is?
- 12:48Speaker 6: It Bill Paxton, Yeah.
- 12:49Speaker 5: Bill Paxton, there's an alternate ending, And I'm like, to
- 12:52Speaker 5: be honest, both of these endings are kind of lame.
- 12:54Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, how would Teddy kg B say it?
- 12:58Speaker 6: Hold it, hold on, hold on, it's Bedden.
- 13:05Speaker 3: Oh Jesus, that sounded that you're going German. Yeah. Yeah,
- 13:10Speaker 3: this is not good. This is not good.
- 13:12Speaker 6: It's being no, no, no no, I can't.
- 13:17Speaker 4: Go ahead, we do most you're trying to whisper.
- 13:21Speaker 6: Yeah, I can't.
- 13:23Speaker 3: Just being eighty four years that's not bad. That's not bad,
- 13:27Speaker 3: not bad.
- 13:29Speaker 6: I was I was bad, all right?
- 13:33Speaker 3: What wait?
- 13:34Speaker 6: Is that fair?
- 13:35Speaker 3: Naked ladies?
- 13:36Speaker 6: Hey? What I'm trying to say is we're so used
- 13:40Speaker 6: to the Nuggets playing in the middle of that game
- 13:42Speaker 6: last night.
- 13:43Speaker 7: I'm going back and forth.
- 13:44Speaker 6: I'm going back and forth, and I'm saying they're playing, Okay,
- 13:47Speaker 6: they're back in it. They keep battling, battling, They're like.
- 13:49Speaker 4: I think you could just say they were hanging around,
- 13:52Speaker 4: hanging around exactly.
- 13:54Speaker 6: Hanky, Hey, hey, And I'm sitting there and I'm like,
- 13:58Speaker 6: wait a minute, this team is still minus four starters,
- 14:03Speaker 6: not one four four starters are not playing in this game,
- 14:09Speaker 6: and they've been minus four starters for most of the month.
- 14:11Speaker 4: Yeah. No, they fight, man, they really do.
- 14:15Speaker 5: And again I think all this experience is gonna help
- 14:18Speaker 5: him down the road.
- 14:18Speaker 4: We can get back to this in a little bit.
- 14:20Speaker 5: I do want to get to the audio here from
- 14:22Speaker 5: Sean Payton, George Peyton and.
- 14:24Speaker 8: Hey, dude, this is this is getting very interesting. I
- 14:28Speaker 8: got for my show last night sitting here in the
- 14:30Speaker 8: room in Ottawa, frozen Tundra of the North, and I
- 14:35Speaker 8: watched the entire what do you call the podcast little
- 14:39Speaker 8: show that that d mac and Coach Sandford did talking
- 14:42Speaker 8: about the firing of Joe Lombardi and others. This is
- 14:45Speaker 8: getting very very interesting. And Sean Payton something is something
- 14:50Speaker 8: is churning inside of him right before our very eyes.
- 14:53Speaker 5: Well it's that along with I think George Peyton said
- 14:56Speaker 5: the exact thing you want to hear from a GM
- 14:58Speaker 5: that's in charge of a team, that's the cusp of
- 15:00Speaker 5: a championship.
- 15:01Speaker 3: We'll get to it next.
- 15:02Speaker 11: I don't know which is the greater regret. The decision
- 15:06Speaker 11: is certainly the play call. I think probably what irks
- 15:12Speaker 11: me more is the call more than the decision. I
- 15:17Speaker 11: don't pay attention to all the criticism. I think if
- 15:21Speaker 11: I paid attention to that, I don't know that we'd
- 15:23Speaker 11: ever be in this position.
- 15:25Speaker 4: Sean Payton yesterday, Can I ask you guys something?
- 15:28Speaker 7: Yeah, I got, I got a remark on that.
- 15:31Speaker 5: Okay, Well that's perfect cause I was just going to
- 15:33Speaker 5: ask you, are we done with the fourth down call?
- 15:36Speaker 5: Are we putting that in the past or you want
- 15:37Speaker 5: to spend a little more time on it today?
- 15:39Speaker 6: Well, I mean, I mean, I don't know what done means.
- 15:41Speaker 6: It's going to live in infamy for the rest of
- 15:43Speaker 6: Bronco's lore. I mean when you listen thirty years from now,
- 15:48Speaker 6: when you go back and think about the two and
- 15:52Speaker 6: twenty sixth game at Mile High Stadium in the AFC
- 15:55Speaker 6: Championship Game, and say, remember that game, two things will
- 15:57Speaker 6: come to mind. The snow and the call. Just the
- 16:00Speaker 6: way it is, it's gonna be that.
- 16:03Speaker 4: However, I mean, wouldn't wouldn't the number one thing be
- 16:05Speaker 4: that Stidham played?
- 16:06Speaker 6: Yeah? But I mean, what do you remember from Bronco's
- 16:11Speaker 6: Baltimore motion?
- 16:14Speaker 8: Well, the play, I remember the pass over the top
- 16:16Speaker 8: of raheem or sorry I'm trying to I Okay, you
- 16:21Speaker 8: don't have an exp strike, okay, because you know a
- 16:25Speaker 8: dude with the thing and so it's a preemptive strike.
- 16:28Speaker 8: I remember the pass over the head of raheem Or
- 16:31Speaker 8: and the game is over.
- 16:32Speaker 6: Sometimes when you lose games, you just remember the negative.
- 16:35Speaker 6: That's it. Yeah, that's that's just how it works.
- 16:38Speaker 7: What do you remember, Bronco fans?
- 16:39Speaker 6: What do you remember from uh Broncos Jacksonville in nineteen
- 16:42Speaker 6: ninety six. Does everybody remember Jimmy Smith? Yeah, there was
- 16:46Speaker 6: one play where Bronco's defensive lineman ding in off the
- 16:49Speaker 6: field in time and costume dear Michael Dean Perry, Yeah,
- 16:52Speaker 6: costume deer.
- 16:53Speaker 7: I mean, there's little things.
- 16:53Speaker 3: It was Michael. I think it was Michael Dean Perry
- 16:55Speaker 3: was Yeah.
- 16:56Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying is, though, regarding uh Sean yesterday,
- 17:00Speaker 6: I thought he was very humble. First of all, I
- 17:03Speaker 6: thought I was there for the entire proceeding listening to
- 17:06Speaker 6: him and George Peyton, and I thought the humility with
- 17:09Speaker 6: which he handled himself was much needed. You know, when
- 17:13Speaker 6: you lose the way they lost, and you know you
- 17:15Speaker 6: hold yourself accountable for one of the reasons you lost,
- 17:18Speaker 6: humility will soon follow. But I do disagree with this.
- 17:22Speaker 6: He said, I don't pay attention to the noise. Yeah
- 17:26Speaker 6: they do. They all do.
- 17:29Speaker 7: So I'm really.
- 17:33Speaker 6: I guess I want to bring it up because I'm
- 17:34Speaker 6: so tired of hearing that from coaches and players when
- 17:37Speaker 6: they say they don't listen to the noise. They don't know,
- 17:40Speaker 6: Yeah they do, Yeah they do.
- 17:43Speaker 4: I don't listen to the noise. Also, nobody believed in us.
- 17:45Speaker 6: Yeah they so, can we please a moratorium on this? Coaches, players, gms, everybody.
- 17:52Speaker 6: If you're listening to the show, and I know you are,
- 17:53Speaker 6: by the way, I know you are, come to find out,
- 17:57Speaker 6: can we please stop just lying? Just say yeah, yeah,
- 18:01Speaker 6: you know. I read some things. I heard some things
- 18:03Speaker 6: through the grape vine of it.
- 18:05Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 18:05Speaker 8: Well, maybe they don't, maybe they don't try to pay
- 18:09Speaker 8: attention to the noise. But the noise gets the noise
- 18:12Speaker 8: find it finds you. The noise finds you. You know what,
- 18:16Speaker 8: I'll take what the noise, Okay, the noise finds family
- 18:21Speaker 8: members and friends, for sure. Then somehow from the family
- 18:26Speaker 8: members and friends, the noise can find you. So it does,
- 18:29Speaker 8: which is why again, But I I loved his news
- 18:34Speaker 8: conference yesterday. To me, this was This was probably the real,
- 18:39Speaker 8: genuine not pumped up, not freaking not You're not angry,
- 18:43Speaker 8: not spicy, not whatever, Sean Payton, Right, that's.
- 18:45Speaker 6: What you have to be this way because it's a
- 18:48Speaker 6: it's a press conference you.
- 18:49Speaker 8: Didn't want to have when you're but you know you
- 18:51Speaker 8: you can also still be no, you can also still
- 18:54Speaker 8: be feisty. I mean, but he he wasn't that, you know,
- 18:57Speaker 8: when he does the I'm not going to joke around anymore.
- 19:00Speaker 8: Do we have that clippy I'm not gonna Yeah, I'm
- 19:02Speaker 8: not gonna I'm not gonna be funny. That was to
- 19:07Speaker 8: be funny anymore.
- 19:09Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 19:09Speaker 8: Any points he's like, huh, I'm assuming he was pointing
- 19:11Speaker 8: at Evan or excuse me, Luca, Luca.
- 19:15Speaker 3: Maybe maybe not.
- 19:16Speaker 8: I don't know, but you know he heard some of
- 19:17Speaker 8: that too, which is why he you know, walked it
- 19:20Speaker 8: back leading up to the game. It's it's fine, it's fine,
- 19:22Speaker 8: but I I like his news conference.
- 19:24Speaker 3: But this whole thing is weird to me, Brett. What's
- 19:26Speaker 3: going on right now? It's weird.
- 19:28Speaker 5: Well, I'm gonna play Luca perfect, I'm gonna play a
- 19:31Speaker 5: piece audio on a second from George Peygon because I
- 19:34Speaker 5: think he hit something that most Broncos fans want to hear.
- 19:36Speaker 4: But this is good text.
- 19:37Speaker 5: Hey, Kesla, I don't know about any of those negative
- 19:39Speaker 5: things I mentioned you, right, Listen, Hey, I think I've
- 19:44Speaker 5: been somebody getting upset at you for a tweet you
- 19:46Speaker 5: sent out recently.
- 19:48Speaker 6: Who're you talking about me?
- 19:49Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 19:50Speaker 4: Didn't somebody get upset you for a tweet that?
- 19:54Speaker 3: Listen?
- 19:55Speaker 6: It happens all over the place. And and you know,
- 19:57Speaker 6: to say that they don't hear, and they don't. They
- 20:00Speaker 6: don't pay attention to the noise. It's just fake. They
- 20:03Speaker 6: do and it's their human beings. And I get it.
- 20:06Speaker 6: I thought Sean Payton yesterday, you could tell press conferences
- 20:10Speaker 6: in which humility catches up every question that's asked him.
- 20:15Speaker 6: He answered with that's a good question, right, you know.
- 20:18Speaker 6: That's what I know. That's what I know. He's on
- 20:20Speaker 6: his humble siddle.
- 20:21Speaker 4: That's a sharp mind.
- 20:24Speaker 8: I texted Dmac last night during their little skit, what
- 20:27Speaker 8: do you call that altitude after dark or something like that?
- 20:29Speaker 8: I don't know what you call it, but but dmat got
- 20:33Speaker 8: two great questions yesterday, not one, he got two of them.
- 20:37Speaker 3: That's a great question. He got two of those.
- 20:39Speaker 6: I'm like, you get hit with the great question. And
- 20:41Speaker 6: that's just the way the press conference went. And frankly,
- 20:43Speaker 6: it's the way it's supposed to go. And you lose
- 20:45Speaker 6: the way they did. I wonder if you had to
- 20:49Speaker 6: replay the game. We just keep saying the same thing.
- 20:54Speaker 6: Even if you go for it and get the first down.
- 20:58Speaker 7: You still have to travel what twelve.
- 21:00Speaker 6: Thirteen yards from the end zone. Yep, it still doesn't
- 21:03Speaker 6: assure anything.
- 21:06Speaker 5: No, I just think he wanted that was the mindset
- 21:08Speaker 5: he was in. It's just like I'm gonna try and
- 21:10Speaker 5: punch these guys in the mouth and a backfired. Now, okay,
- 21:14Speaker 5: let's hear this real quick from Sean.
- 21:15Speaker 9: Hey, Sean, I know you made it a crack about
- 21:18Speaker 9: it after the Buffalo game, but is there any concern
- 21:21Speaker 9: that bo has had several ankle surgeries?
- 21:25Speaker 11: And no, and make make understand that was that was
- 21:31Speaker 11: ingest And I'm gonna stop trying to be funny.
- 21:37Speaker 6: That's my.
- 21:39Speaker 11: I'm gonna stop trying to be funny.
- 21:40Speaker 6: That's okay stuff.
- 21:42Speaker 4: First second, I've never heard him laugh before. That freaked
- 21:45Speaker 4: me out. That laughed freaked me out. Yeah right, I
- 21:52Speaker 4: don't like that.
- 21:53Speaker 3: You're so we.
- 21:54Speaker 6: Haven't heard that in the press conference. That was an
- 21:55Speaker 6: entirely different press conference. Guys, we need to talk about
- 21:58Speaker 6: that topic.
- 22:00Speaker 8: A Bolkswagen rabbit one time when you started it up
- 22:04Speaker 8: in the cold snow, that's what it sounded like.
- 22:10Speaker 6: That's neat. Anyway, the fact that Sean Payton was in
- 22:14Speaker 6: that mood yesterday tells you things were happening, and things happened.
- 22:19Speaker 6: Joe Lombardi gone, wide receivers coach gone, another offensive assistant gone.
- 22:25Speaker 6: They were making some moves behind the scenes to change
- 22:28Speaker 6: things up. He was asked point blank by Demac about
- 22:31Speaker 6: the run game, and he knows they gotta fix it.
- 22:33Speaker 5: They gotta get one cornerbacks, cornerbacks coach. I think it
- 22:36Speaker 5: was corners coach.
- 22:38Speaker 3: What's going on?
- 22:38Speaker 5: It was Lombardy, It was Carrie Colbert, the wide receivers coach,
- 22:41Speaker 5: and then the cornerbacks coach.
- 22:43Speaker 4: Now, the Lombardi one is weird.
- 22:46Speaker 5: And here's why a lot of people are doing the
- 22:49Speaker 5: one to one assumption that and of course they did
- 22:52Speaker 5: this after the press conference. They do this so often
- 22:54Speaker 5: where it's like they have if they have the major
- 22:56Speaker 5: like meeting of the minds George Peyton, Sean Payton talking thing.
- 23:00Speaker 5: They will news dump an hour after that thing gets done,
- 23:04Speaker 5: just to make sure they aren't asked about it. But
- 23:08Speaker 5: the Lombardi one is interesting from this standpoint because it's
- 23:10Speaker 5: always confusing when you're an offensive coordinator defensive coordinator and
- 23:14Speaker 5: your head coach is calling the plays on the side
- 23:16Speaker 5: of the football that has your tag on it. Who
- 23:19Speaker 5: is the guy with the fangio was a Donntel? Is
- 23:21Speaker 5: that his DC? And you're always like, I don't know
- 23:25Speaker 5: exactly what their job is. I know they help with
- 23:26Speaker 5: the game plan and they're a coach, but like when
- 23:28Speaker 5: you're not calling the plays, it's it's odd to fire
- 23:35Speaker 5: your offensive coordinator if the offense isn't good enough. When
- 23:38Speaker 5: you're the one holding the place next.
- 23:40Speaker 3: You're you're missing, you're miss but you're missing that.
- 23:42Speaker 5: Nobody know what I know what the logical next step is, Oh, well,
- 23:45Speaker 5: he's just doing that to try and keep Davis web right, Okay,
- 23:50Speaker 5: why would Davis web just hypothetically, why would he take
- 23:54Speaker 5: that job if it's in title only unless.
- 23:58Speaker 4: Sean Payton's willing to give the give up the h there.
- 24:01Speaker 8: Now, this is where this is where we're going here.
- 24:04Speaker 8: And I thought that Coach Sanford raised a very good
- 24:06Speaker 8: point last night that you remember Bill Parcells in his
- 24:09Speaker 8: early days was this and that, and he's all over
- 24:11Speaker 8: the you know, call him plays blah blah blah blah blah.
- 24:14Speaker 8: But at the end he became much more of just
- 24:16Speaker 8: the overseer of everything, overseer of the defense, overseer of
- 24:20Speaker 8: the offense. The OC called the place. He was like
- 24:22Speaker 8: the just the man in charge up here of everything.
- 24:25Speaker 8: He can override guys, Bill Parcells. Yah, yeah, Bill Parcells.
- 24:30Speaker 8: That at the age of sixty two, is Sean Payton
- 24:32Speaker 8: finally ready to say you know what? And maybe this
- 24:35Speaker 8: fourth down decision, maybe maybe he had a personal coming
- 24:39Speaker 8: to Jesus meeting with himself about it. You know what,
- 24:42Speaker 8: I don't I don't know, but clearly they want to
- 24:45Speaker 8: keep Davis Webb in some capacity. The only way that
- 24:49Speaker 8: I think that you do that, because he's now interviewed
- 24:50Speaker 8: for the Raiders' job twice. I think the only way
- 24:54Speaker 8: you do that because the next logical step for him
- 24:56Speaker 8: is to call plays is to give up the play calling.
- 24:58Speaker 3: Now, can you do that?
- 24:59Speaker 8: If you're Sean Payton and you're you know, I want
- 25:02Speaker 8: to say, I want to say control freak, but you know,
- 25:03Speaker 8: he likes things the way he likes things. I don't know.
- 25:07Speaker 8: But also, is it him who wants to keep Davis
- 25:10Speaker 8: Webb or is there a higher being? This is we
- 25:13Speaker 8: got to keep this kid because he's thirty years old
- 25:15Speaker 8: and he's.
- 25:16Speaker 3: Going to be the man.
- 25:16Speaker 4: Well, here's the interesting thing.
- 25:19Speaker 5: I don't know if if you guys saw this yesterday,
- 25:22Speaker 5: multiple different articles written about Joe Brady, who is now
- 25:26Speaker 5: the head coach of the Bills, that if he didn't
- 25:29Speaker 5: get that gig, because remember, he was already there. The
- 25:33Speaker 5: Bills fired Sean McDermott. He was the OC. They just
- 25:37Speaker 5: promoted him now to the head coach. It's almost like
- 25:40Speaker 5: Adaman taking over from Malone, right, But when you fire
- 25:43Speaker 5: a head coach, a lot of times what happens is
- 25:45Speaker 5: the entire staff leaves because you bring somebody else in.
- 25:50Speaker 4: Rumors are.
- 25:52Speaker 5: Sean Payton wanted Joe Brady really bad and that he
- 25:56Speaker 5: was willing to give up play calling duties if Joe
- 25:59Speaker 5: Brady were to come here, and instead Joe Brady got
- 26:01Speaker 5: the head coaching gig in Buffalo. So if you believe that,
- 26:05Speaker 5: it would tell you he's willing to at least consider
- 26:08Speaker 5: doing it. I get a hard time believing it though,
- 26:11Speaker 5: Like I think he wants to be so much in
- 26:13Speaker 5: control of that offense. It would take a lot for
- 26:15Speaker 5: him to give that.
- 26:16Speaker 7: I I'm right there with you.
- 26:18Speaker 6: I don't think there's any chance whatsoever that Sean Payton
- 26:22Speaker 6: removes play calling from his playbook.
- 26:24Speaker 7: It's just it's just not him. You know, he's in
- 26:26Speaker 7: this for that reason.
- 26:27Speaker 3: It doesn't feel like him.
- 26:29Speaker 7: It's not him.
- 26:29Speaker 6: But the other thing too, about Davis Webb going to Buffalo,
- 26:33Speaker 6: it would be the same situation.
- 26:34Speaker 4: Mean Vegas.
- 26:36Speaker 6: You said Davis Webb going to Buffalo, there are rumors
- 26:39Speaker 6: about him going to Buffalo too.
- 26:43Speaker 7: Yeah, that's not gonna happen either.
- 26:45Speaker 6: If if now, I know, he's very good friends with
- 26:47Speaker 6: Josh Allen, I mean at one point he called him
- 26:49Speaker 6: his best friend. But who's going to be calling the
- 26:52Speaker 6: plays in Buffalo Joe Brady?
- 26:55Speaker 7: Joe Brady?
- 26:55Speaker 3: Well theoretically, but so why would he leave.
- 26:58Speaker 7: One one position for the other when it's the same thing.
- 27:02Speaker 8: Yeah, I completely agree. Maybe we're totally wrong about this
- 27:06Speaker 8: Davis web thing. Maybe the Joel Lombardi thing was going
- 27:08Speaker 8: to happen no matter what, which I find weird because
- 27:12Speaker 8: again it's you know, I I if Joel Lombardi's gone,
- 27:16Speaker 8: does anything change from last weekend?
- 27:19Speaker 3: Anything?
- 27:19Speaker 8: I think the answer is no. I could be wrong,
- 27:21Speaker 8: but I think it's no. So really, what is the
- 27:23Speaker 8: point behind it? If the plan isn't to try and
- 27:26Speaker 8: keep Davis web as much as possible. The whole thing
- 27:29Speaker 8: is is really interesting to me. We haven't even talked
- 27:31Speaker 8: yet about this predisposition of bo Nix's ankle to explode
- 27:35Speaker 8: on contact.
- 27:36Speaker 7: We're gonna get into that.
- 27:37Speaker 3: Yeah, not if, but when I mean, that's that's concerning
- 27:40Speaker 3: in its own right.
- 27:41Speaker 6: I do need to the Joel Lombardi thing. There's more
- 27:46Speaker 6: to it, and I think it has something to do
- 27:48Speaker 6: with what he said when d MAAC asked about the
- 27:51Speaker 6: run game and Jean Payne said, yeah, I sat down
- 27:54Speaker 6: in Zach's office. He's referring to Zach's I want, yeah,
- 27:58Speaker 6: please play this.
- 27:59Speaker 11: It's probably there's probably a series of answers to that.
- 28:02Speaker 11: I feel like we're far enough along with the RPOs
- 28:05Speaker 11: and some of that, but when we want to run
- 28:08Speaker 11: it under center and control a game we've been able
- 28:12Speaker 11: to do it a few times, but not as much
- 28:15Speaker 11: as I'd like. That's that'll be one of the points
- 28:17Speaker 11: of emphasis that I think that that we research and
- 28:21Speaker 11: look into heavily. I want to play from the gun,
- 28:25Speaker 11: but I also will always want to play with a
- 28:28Speaker 11: two back or multiple tight end mindset. Have that flexibility,
- 28:31Speaker 11: and I think it's one of the one of the
- 28:33Speaker 11: key things we have to do this offseason.
- 28:35Speaker 6: Okay, so if you're asking what did Joe Lombardi do
- 28:38Speaker 6: as the OC, what did he do? In my humble opinion,
- 28:41Speaker 6: his role basically was the go between. Here's here's our
- 28:44Speaker 6: you know, Sean Payton's calling the place, and Joel Lombardi
- 28:47Speaker 6: got to the other with Zach Streef, got to the
- 28:49Speaker 6: other with Davis Webb, the passing game coordinator, and he
- 28:52Speaker 6: coordinated all that how.
- 28:53Speaker 7: Are we going to do this? How are we going
- 28:54Speaker 7: to make it look?
- 28:55Speaker 6: How were we going to make a run? And Sean
- 28:57Speaker 6: Payton I vert you by saying that he wasn't happy
- 28:59Speaker 6: with the way it was going.
- 29:00Speaker 7: He didn't like the run game.
- 29:03Speaker 6: Yeah, and Joe Lombardi paid the price for that.
- 29:06Speaker 5: I think that it's such a myth that people think
- 29:09Speaker 5: that Sean Payton doesn't like running the football. There is
- 29:11Speaker 5: nothing and this man's like history is an offensive play
- 29:16Speaker 5: caller that would suggest that it's been here here, it's
- 29:20Speaker 5: been rough. But I do think again it's been more
- 29:23Speaker 5: personnel issue than it has been a want two. Like,
- 29:27Speaker 5: guys go back to his days with New Orleans. Did
- 29:31Speaker 5: he have running backs? Yeah, a ton of them. Yeah,
- 29:34Speaker 5: and he used them a ton Yeah, Reggie Bush, Darren Sproles,
- 29:39Speaker 5: Alvin Kamara, like the list goes on and on.
- 29:41Speaker 4: He used them a lot.
- 29:42Speaker 6: And I think it's bigger than just well, who the
- 29:44Speaker 6: running backs are. I think the design of what the
- 29:48Speaker 6: run game. I don't think they're running the ball properly.
- 29:51Speaker 6: Whatever it is, it's not blocked properly. I go back
- 29:55Speaker 6: to the Patriot shank a thirty three yard punt they
- 30:00Speaker 6: getting actually put them at the thirty three yard line.
- 30:03Speaker 7: The punt was shame.
- 30:04Speaker 3: It was more like a twenty two yard punt. Your
- 30:07Speaker 3: first not even met.
- 30:08Speaker 6: At the Patriots thirty three very first play after they
- 30:12Speaker 6: remember the play, R J.
- 30:15Speaker 7: Harvey runs to the right and loses four yards.
- 30:17Speaker 6: Yeah, how.
- 30:21Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
- 30:22Speaker 6: Are you not blocking it correctly? That's not guys, and
- 30:25Speaker 6: I went that wasn't on RJ. Harvey, that wasn't a
- 30:28Speaker 6: running backs fault.
- 30:28Speaker 4: That was blown up.
- 30:30Speaker 7: It was completely blown up.
- 30:31Speaker 6: I think this strategy employed in the run game, whatever
- 30:35Speaker 6: they're doing, whatever they did, did not work.
- 30:39Speaker 5: I agree, and maybe that's why Lombardy's not here now.
- 30:46Speaker 5: There's a lot of other stuff that I do want
- 30:48Speaker 5: to talk about. But in firing Kerry Colbert, he said
- 30:51Speaker 5: something odd that I haven't heard before because we mentioned
- 30:54Speaker 5: this on a number of different occasions that the wide
- 30:59Speaker 5: receivers they have a drop issue. Like they were always
- 31:02Speaker 5: near the top of the league and drops all season long.
- 31:04Speaker 5: It came back to bite you in the playoffs. You
- 31:06Speaker 5: had multiple drops through both of your playoff games.
- 31:10Speaker 4: Peyton said this.
- 31:11Speaker 11: Yeah, there were too many, even down the stretch. We'll
- 31:14Speaker 11: look at the thing with the draft man. We've invested,
- 31:19Speaker 11: and I like the players in that room. We've got
- 31:22Speaker 11: different We've got speed, we've got size, we've got you know,
- 31:27Speaker 11: all the things I'm used to. You know you'd want
- 31:29Speaker 11: to have in a good offense. But I think that
- 31:32Speaker 11: there's a proper way to catch football, and most of
- 31:35Speaker 11: the times it's with your thumbs together. Even the deep
- 31:38Speaker 11: balls should be caught, you know, with your thumbs together,
- 31:43Speaker 11: So we got to be better at that.
- 31:44Speaker 5: I just to ask something because I know that they
- 31:46Speaker 5: fired Kerry Colbert, the wide receivers coach. That is like
- 31:52Speaker 5: basic first day of camp stuff that you do right,
- 31:57Speaker 5: Like how to position your hands to catch the football.
- 32:01Speaker 5: We're talking about that after the AFC Championship game that
- 32:04Speaker 5: that was a problem.
- 32:04Speaker 6: Still my thumbs together. I can't first, so I can't
- 32:08Speaker 6: get my thumbs together, so I would not not sure
- 32:11Speaker 6: i'd be able to qualify for that.
- 32:12Speaker 3: How you catch anything in this world is how you
- 32:15Speaker 3: even catch a cold is amazing.
- 32:17Speaker 6: Everybody at the press conference when you said that everything
- 32:19Speaker 6: everybody every.
- 32:20Speaker 7: Started doing this.
- 32:22Speaker 6: Now like wait a minute, so wait, if you're if
- 32:26Speaker 6: you're catching the ball over your shoulder, how are you
- 32:30Speaker 6: how can you do that?
- 32:32Speaker 7: You're catching it like this? What you look like this?
- 32:35Speaker 8: You gotta reverse your hands first. You gotta reverse your
- 32:37Speaker 8: hands first in the middle of the route. Reverse your hands.
- 32:39Speaker 8: Then you can do it. Huh, take your one hand off,
- 32:43Speaker 8: put on the other side. Then then you're like this,
- 32:46Speaker 8: see then then everything is going.
- 32:47Speaker 7: Now you're doing the bird effect right?
- 32:50Speaker 3: How you doing.
- 32:53Speaker 4: Is like this, Actually, you put your thumbs down.
- 32:56Speaker 7: How about this?
- 32:57Speaker 6: Just catch the ball?
- 32:58Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it, you.
- 32:59Speaker 7: Know, how about I don't worry about my thumbs.
- 33:03Speaker 6: I'm not trying to tell Spencer Jones how to shoot
- 33:05Speaker 6: a three because it doesn't look right, but it goes in.
- 33:08Speaker 6: Just just catch the ball, That's what I felt like saying.
- 33:13Speaker 6: Just yes, catch them.
- 33:15Speaker 7: You know there's dudes today and the leave to catch
- 33:17Speaker 7: it with one hand.
- 33:19Speaker 6: All the time.
- 33:21Speaker 5: Sean Marion's jump shot wasn't something that was pretty to watch.
- 33:25Speaker 5: But if you make it, who cares?
- 33:27Speaker 7: It really makes no sense to me.
- 33:29Speaker 4: That's now, Vick.
- 33:31Speaker 5: If your campaign shooting at a jump shot, then that's
- 33:34Speaker 5: gotta be fixed.
- 33:34Speaker 6: Well he faces the other direction.
- 33:37Speaker 8: Yeah, he's pleasant to watch. He's not a pleasant watch.
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- 34:18Speaker 8: Hey Brett, Hey what I had something yesterday. I'm not
- 34:22Speaker 8: gonna get credit for it. That's gonna maybe put a
- 34:24Speaker 8: little salve on Vic's burness saddle. But I had breaking
- 34:29Speaker 8: news yesterday on on the station. But I couldn't break
- 34:34Speaker 8: the news because we had the Sean Payton news conference
- 34:37Speaker 8: shot out of here.
- 34:38Speaker 7: So like the newser broke on game have the skygn
- 34:40Speaker 7: the ice No.
- 34:42Speaker 8: I had Sam Malinsky's new four year contract extension. I
- 34:46Speaker 8: had that ready to go before anybody, before it was
- 34:49Speaker 8: released by anybody, by the team, by anybody, and had
- 34:52Speaker 8: been given the go ahead to announce it on our airwaves.
- 34:56Speaker 8: But I talked to Kj's like, hey, we got Peyton
- 35:00Speaker 8: going on right now, can you do it like in
- 35:01Speaker 8: thirty minutes? And I'm like, well, no, because it's going
- 35:04Speaker 8: to be released to the public within that time, So
- 35:06Speaker 8: it really doesn't make any sense.
- 35:08Speaker 3: But I had it going. I had it ready to go.
- 35:10Speaker 4: So you didn't break anything.
- 35:11Speaker 7: Yeah, so nothing happened. You didn't break news.
- 35:13Speaker 8: No, No, I didn't know. I didn't but I could have.
- 35:16Speaker 8: See Now this is where this is where credits should
- 35:18Speaker 8: be given. I could have, but I wasn't allowed to. Yeah,
- 35:23Speaker 8: I didn't like pudding. Actually I knew the information. I
- 35:25Speaker 8: just couldn't get on the air to say it.
- 35:26Speaker 5: So I could have broken the news to yeah or
- 35:29Speaker 5: even yeah.
- 35:30Speaker 6: We all had it, by the way, they all set
- 35:32Speaker 6: us the same information.
- 35:33Speaker 4: All right, Can I get that? Can I get this audio?
- 35:35Speaker 5: And I do want to talk about mull Oncey's extension though,
- 35:37Speaker 5: because it's I do think it's huge news.
- 35:39Speaker 4: We'll get to that in a bit.
- 35:40Speaker 5: To George Peyton though, and he said something that I
- 35:42Speaker 5: think every single fan should want to hear, and it's
- 35:45Speaker 5: something that I think in this town now that the
- 35:49Speaker 5: Broncos have put themselves into the championship discussion, much like
- 35:53Speaker 5: the Abs and the Nuggets. The ABS have taken one
- 35:56Speaker 5: approach towards what they felt like was best to try
- 36:02Speaker 5: and manufacture a championship. The Nuggets took the opposite, And
- 36:07Speaker 5: I think the Avs had the right sort of thing
- 36:09Speaker 5: in mind. What the Avs did every year was I'm
- 36:11Speaker 5: gonna make trades. I'm gonna push my chips in the
- 36:13Speaker 5: middle of the table. I'll deal with the future when
- 36:15Speaker 5: it comes, but we need to do something right now.
- 36:17Speaker 5: They did that every year. Now, some worked, some didn't.
- 36:21Speaker 5: Most they traded for goalies. They've traded for second line centers,
- 36:24Speaker 5: they traded for defenseman, They've traded for a whole bunch
- 36:26Speaker 5: of different things to try and help them get to
- 36:28Speaker 5: a championship. The Nuggets up until this year have always
- 36:32Speaker 5: taken the yeah, we're gonna wait and see. We're gonna
- 36:35Speaker 5: wait and see if Zeke somewhere. We're gonna wait and
- 36:37Speaker 5: see if Jalen Pickett can contribute. We're gonna wait and
- 36:39Speaker 5: see if Peyton Watson can be a thing. And then
- 36:41Speaker 5: this year they'd pushed their ships to the middle of
- 36:43Speaker 5: the table and they got big Val and Bruce Brown
- 36:47Speaker 5: and Tim Hardway. Well, here's Peyton's response on hey man,
- 36:52Speaker 5: you're now shed of that Russell Wilson contract Cloud and
- 36:57Speaker 5: you got a quarterback who's on a rookie d making
- 37:00Speaker 5: no money. What are you going to do with it
- 37:02Speaker 5: this offseason?
- 37:03Speaker 12: In regards to the quarterback. I mean, we're always going
- 37:05Speaker 12: to push it, and we're gonna push it this year.
- 37:08Speaker 12: All these other teams are pushing it. So we have
- 37:09Speaker 12: to be on our game. We have to make really
- 37:11Speaker 12: good decisions. We're going to be aggressive, regardless of you know,
- 37:14Speaker 12: whose contract is what I think it's really important now.
- 37:17Speaker 12: We're going to be sound and prudent with our decisions.
- 37:19Speaker 12: And the good news is we have some caprom We
- 37:22Speaker 12: have all ared. We have five picks in the first
- 37:24Speaker 12: four rounds. We could get two compensatory, which will give
- 37:27Speaker 12: us nine. You know, I always talk flexibility. We're going
- 37:29Speaker 12: to have all sorts of flexibility.
- 37:33Speaker 4: We're going to be aggressive. Is exactly what you want
- 37:35Speaker 4: to hear.
- 37:35Speaker 7: It's a great outlook, you know.
- 37:36Speaker 6: And it makes you think with the thirtieth overall selection
- 37:41Speaker 6: and listening to Jeff Legwall to hurt him on with
- 37:43Speaker 6: the Nate Andy. When you're picking thirty, it's basically a
- 37:46Speaker 6: second round choice, right, it's a second round pick.
- 37:49Speaker 7: Do they settle for a thirtieth pick?
- 37:51Speaker 6: Do they package some guys? Do they really hit it
- 37:54Speaker 6: hard in free agency and maybe the draft is secondary
- 37:57Speaker 6: of this year?
- 37:57Speaker 4: Do you use some of those picks to make a trade.
- 37:59Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean the time is now.
- 38:01Speaker 6: He is right, You're close.
- 38:03Speaker 7: You're close. Your team is close. You proved it.
- 38:05Speaker 6: Your team is close. The schedule will get harder. Even
- 38:08Speaker 6: John Bayton said, hey, you go back to the starting line.
- 38:10Speaker 6: You don't. You don't start next season in the AFC
- 38:13Speaker 6: title game. You go back to the starting line like
- 38:15Speaker 6: everybody else.
- 38:17Speaker 8: You are going to play a Yeah, you're going to
- 38:19Speaker 8: play a first place schedule.
- 38:22Speaker 3: That's and so are the Patriots.
- 38:24Speaker 8: I mean you think they had an easy run this
- 38:26Speaker 8: year with their opposition. Now you're gonna get the big
- 38:29Speaker 8: boys around your own conference and the opposing single conference
- 38:35Speaker 8: that you play.
- 38:36Speaker 6: You're doing turn your volume down a little bit, thank you.
- 38:42Speaker 8: Okay, there's no way. Here's what I've learned. God, they
- 38:48Speaker 8: thank goodness. You're not my wife. There's there's no there's
- 38:52Speaker 8: no way life. He would be a terrible life.
- 38:56Speaker 3: No, you'd be terrible.
- 38:58Speaker 6: What are you talking about?
- 38:58Speaker 7: You play golf together.
- 39:01Speaker 3: You are our bull to you are our bull turbal.
- 39:04Speaker 4: What you're talking about, Vicka is having a friend.
- 39:06Speaker 6: I'm watching.
- 39:10Speaker 4: Hey, hey Mo, you're gonna love this. Uh our buddy Dave,
- 39:15Speaker 4: he was over at.
- 39:16Speaker 5: The house a couple of weeks ago, and his wife
- 39:18Speaker 5: was there with him and she had to take the
- 39:19Speaker 5: kids back to the house.
- 39:20Speaker 4: She goes, are you coming with me? And he goes, no,
- 39:22Speaker 4: I thin'm gonna hang here.
- 39:23Speaker 5: She goes, Oh, you're gonna switch it up and drink
- 39:24Speaker 5: drink with your friends today.
- 39:30Speaker 4: You're gonna switch it up a little bit of your friends.
- 39:32Speaker 4: Do something new.
- 39:33Speaker 3: She's spicy. She's spicy. I like it. That's funny stuff. Man.
- 39:39Speaker 8: Anyway, So yeah, look all this is I mean to me,
- 39:44Speaker 8: it's it's very interesting. From this point on. You have
- 39:48Speaker 8: to be in the mix. You can't just quote run
- 39:50Speaker 8: it back. So yeah, be aggressive, go get you some
- 39:53Speaker 8: so to speak.
- 39:55Speaker 4: Uh, they have to.
- 39:56Speaker 5: And look they named specifically the wide receivers and the
- 40:00Speaker 5: running backs, and they were asked, do you need a
- 40:01Speaker 5: playmaker there?
- 40:02Speaker 4: This was George Peyton's answer.
- 40:03Speaker 12: Again, we'll do a deep dive. I like our young players.
- 40:06Speaker 12: I like our young receivers, and I think we drafted
- 40:08Speaker 12: three and you got Court and little Jordan. We got
- 40:10Speaker 12: a good mix of players. But we're always looking to
- 40:13Speaker 12: add We're always looking to improve it at every position.
- 40:16Speaker 12: We're running back, we'll do the same you know, I
- 40:18Speaker 12: like the young backs we have. JK was a big
- 40:20Speaker 12: hit here. That was a big loss, you know, for
- 40:22Speaker 12: our team and our offense and just his leadership that
- 40:25Speaker 12: he showed. So we'll look at everything. I think we
- 40:28Speaker 12: have some young talent. If we can add, you know,
- 40:30Speaker 12: we will, and if we can upgrade, we will, certainly.
- 40:32Speaker 4: I thought, you go ahead.
- 40:34Speaker 6: If Peyton said the same thing about JK said we
- 40:36Speaker 6: missed him more than you know, more than you know,
- 40:39Speaker 6: and those are the words he used, which means.
- 40:41Speaker 4: And it's very easy for me, guys, I was obvious.
- 40:43Speaker 6: Yeah, you can invite JK Dobbins back, all right, that's
- 40:47Speaker 6: I have no problem doing that.
- 40:48Speaker 7: And you can still have R. J. Harvey on the team.
- 40:51Speaker 6: You still need a third guy, Yeah, no doubt because
- 40:57Speaker 6: JK is your guy. But can you rely on him?
- 41:02Speaker 6: Can you rely on him? And history proves it's hard
- 41:05Speaker 6: to rely on the guy who can't finish the season.
- 41:07Speaker 8: Last night, Coach Sandford and DMAK we're talking about this
- 41:10Speaker 8: and Coach Sandford laid out a guy who's gonna be
- 41:13Speaker 8: a free agent in Brece Hall from the New York Jets.
- 41:16Speaker 8: He rushed for almost eleven hundred yards this year and
- 41:19Speaker 8: we like him. But again, it's impossible for me to
- 41:24Speaker 8: believe that the New York Jets would let him get
- 41:26Speaker 8: away in any capacity, that they'd either extend him themselves,
- 41:31Speaker 8: or that they would you know, they'd French. I mean
- 41:33Speaker 8: they they'll do something not to let him get away.
- 41:37Speaker 8: So rather than just you know, picking guys off other teams,
- 41:39Speaker 8: I mean, find a plan here, man, And like you said,
- 41:42Speaker 8: you've got potentially nine picks in the first four rounds.
- 41:46Speaker 6: I still believe, though, guys more important than the running
- 41:50Speaker 6: back they bring in, because that doesn't solve anything if
- 41:52Speaker 6: you can't run block it correctly. They got to fix
- 41:55Speaker 6: their scheme. He said it himself. He went in a
- 41:59Speaker 6: Zach Street office yesterday, and they're gonna work on that,
- 42:02Speaker 6: I think ultimately because Joe Lombardi's job, who probably had
- 42:07Speaker 6: he was the go between, fixed the running scheme and
- 42:11Speaker 6: that starts up front, not just the running back.
- 42:14Speaker 3: I agree, how they I think, I do do they
- 42:18Speaker 3: have the guys?
- 42:19Speaker 8: Well, do they have the right personnel then on that
- 42:21Speaker 8: offensive line because everybody's locked up so.
- 42:24Speaker 6: You're gearing about how it's the best offensive line in football.
- 42:28Speaker 6: I mean, Garrett Bowles said it himself, we're the best
- 42:30Speaker 6: off football.
- 42:32Speaker 3: Then why is there a disconnect? Why can't they run
- 42:34Speaker 3: the ball? You know what? Let me go back.
- 42:38Speaker 8: I think they did pretty decently before got hurt that
- 42:43Speaker 8: they did.
- 42:44Speaker 6: They were never a power run game, Come on, not.
- 42:46Speaker 4: Power, But I mean, but I don't know what they're
- 42:49Speaker 4: looking for.
- 42:49Speaker 3: They were effective.
- 42:51Speaker 5: They they ran the ball five yards a clip with JK.
- 42:53Speaker 5: Dobbins like you can't I guess for much more than that.
- 42:55Speaker 5: And it wasn't like he was burning eighty yard runs.
- 42:58Speaker 6: But you're talking to a guy who's used to when
- 43:01Speaker 6: when I think of a dominant run game, I think
- 43:03Speaker 6: of the the Broncos of the late nineties. That's that
- 43:06Speaker 6: was their identity.
- 43:07Speaker 3: They had a Hall of Famer.
- 43:09Speaker 6: Yeah, but the way they blocked it, the way they
- 43:11Speaker 6: ran it, the way it wasn't just the running back,
- 43:13Speaker 6: I guess because they replaced Gerald Davis with Mike Bell,
- 43:16Speaker 6: Tatum Bell, they brought in Clinton Portois, the sisters.
- 43:19Speaker 3: Can't it was blocked.
- 43:21Speaker 8: You can't. You can't. Yeah, but you can't. You can't
- 43:25Speaker 8: block like that anymore. You can't cut block like they
- 43:27Speaker 8: did back in the day.
- 43:28Speaker 3: You can't. Can I say something though, like through out
- 43:31Speaker 3: the window.
- 43:32Speaker 5: Yes, if if b Jeon Robinson or Jamiir Gibbs or
- 43:36Speaker 5: Jonathan Taylor was on this roster, would the running game
- 43:38Speaker 5: be really good?
- 43:40Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 43:40Speaker 4: Yeah, because they're really good players.
- 43:42Speaker 5: I mean, they're just uniquely gifted, and I think that's
- 43:44Speaker 5: the kind of thing you gotta look for.
- 43:46Speaker 4: Like JK.
- 43:46Speaker 5: Dobbins is a gifted player, but injuries and stuff like that,
- 43:50Speaker 5: I think of taking away some explosiveness from him, but
- 43:53Speaker 5: he's still.
- 43:53Speaker 4: Like again, I didn't have a beef with the running
- 43:56Speaker 4: Game early in the year.
- 43:58Speaker 5: Was it uh, top five in the league as far
- 44:01Speaker 5: as things that you'd want to know?
- 44:03Speaker 4: But was it good enough?
- 44:04Speaker 6: Yes, I'll tell you what I want.
- 44:07Speaker 7: I tell you what I want.
- 44:08Speaker 3: What do you want?
- 44:09Speaker 6: You're the thirtieth overall pick. You have assets to trade?
- 44:13Speaker 6: Go get Jeremiah Love. Sure, good get Jeremiah Love.
- 44:22Speaker 5: Like here's the pendulum is swinging so much farther back.
- 44:25Speaker 5: This is so funny. I know we're up against it here,
- 44:28Speaker 5: but do you guys remember just a couple of years ago,
- 44:32Speaker 5: the Atlanta Falcons and the Detroit Lions were called crazy
- 44:36Speaker 5: for spending the top end draft capital they had.
- 44:39Speaker 4: I think what Bijeon was, was he like eighth overall?
- 44:43Speaker 4: Was he seventh eighth overall in the draft?
- 44:45Speaker 5: And then Jamiir Gibbs was like eleventh or twelfth, And
- 44:48Speaker 5: they're like, why are you goy, Why are you guys
- 44:50Speaker 5: investing that sort of capital in a running back? And
- 44:53Speaker 5: it's like, oh, because if they run for fourteen hundred yards,
- 44:56Speaker 5: it matters and wins and losses like it helps.
- 44:59Speaker 6: It's still complementary the running back and the running game.
- 45:02Speaker 6: The running game is fueled by the offensive line. And
- 45:04Speaker 6: I give you case in point Philadelphia, Philadelphia last year.
- 45:09Speaker 6: Running back didn't change. What changed in Philly They lost Lineman.
- 45:15Speaker 6: They didn't block it the same.
- 45:17Speaker 4: Yeah, they were injured, Lane Johnson was hurt, they lost Linman.
- 45:21Speaker 6: They didn't block it the same. So the running back
- 45:23Speaker 6: didn't change. He was the same running back who was
- 45:25Speaker 6: there the year before.
- 45:27Speaker 3: Yeah, Kelsey retired and they that was a couple of
- 45:30Speaker 3: years ago though.
- 45:31Speaker 5: I mean Takuon ran for two thousand yards without Jason
- 45:34Speaker 5: Kelcey there.
- 45:35Speaker 6: Yeah, but things changed up front, and I think upfront
- 45:40Speaker 6: is more important, to be honest with you.
- 45:43Speaker 5: Sakuin still got eleven hundred yards. I mean it's not
- 45:45Speaker 5: like he did nothing.
- 45:47Speaker 3: Yeah, but against the Broncos.
- 45:49Speaker 5: Seventeen games, it's yeah, yeah, against the Broncos though Calive
- 45:54Speaker 5: just didn't.
- 45:55Speaker 8: They didn't even they went away. It's like said enough, like,
- 45:59Speaker 8: let's not run the ball. It's crazy, craziest thing I've
- 46:02Speaker 8: ever seen.
- 46:02Speaker 3: Crazy.
- 46:03Speaker 4: You mean, after Dobbin's got hurt, is that what you're
- 46:05Speaker 4: talking about?
- 46:06Speaker 3: No, No, I'm talking about the Eagles stuff. Running. Oh yeah, yeah,
- 46:09Speaker 3: they're like, nah, we just don't want to running more.
- 46:11Speaker 3: You're We're like, oh, okay, thank you, thank you.
- 46:14Speaker 6: Let's just come to the conclusion and I'll ask you
- 46:17Speaker 6: guys one more time. Is it the running back or
- 46:20Speaker 6: is it the running game? Two entirely different definitions of
- 46:23Speaker 6: what's at stake here.
- 46:24Speaker 5: I think it's a little of both. But it's very
- 46:26Speaker 5: obvious and clear Vic that when you had JK. Dobbins,
- 46:29Speaker 5: your running game was at least all right, and then
- 46:31Speaker 5: it became nothing after he got hurt. So I mean,
- 46:33Speaker 5: I think it's a little bit of both. I mean,
- 46:35Speaker 5: you said it earlier that they emphasized JK. Dobbins not
- 46:40Speaker 5: being healthy hurt way more than people realized, and I
- 46:43Speaker 5: was the one saying, I think I know exactly how
- 46:45Speaker 5: much it hurts, because you guys won't do it anymore.
- 46:47Speaker 6: You could have had Barry Sanders back there. You could
- 46:50Speaker 6: have had vintage Barry Sanders.
- 46:52Speaker 5: Be careful with the next words out of your mouth.
- 46:54Speaker 5: You'd be very care way, very careful.
- 46:57Speaker 3: You watch it right now, miss.
- 46:58Speaker 6: When you have the ball first ten at the thirty
- 47:01Speaker 6: three of the opposition and your very first play goes
- 47:04Speaker 6: run right and they have three defensive linemen in your
- 47:08Speaker 6: backfield before the running back touches the ball, that's not
- 47:11Speaker 6: a running back problem.
- 47:12Speaker 7: That's not a running back problem. That's a running game problem.
- 47:15Speaker 5: Fair Barry had a whole bunch of negative four yard
- 47:17Speaker 5: runs he did, and then he'd.
- 47:19Speaker 7: Break running game problem.
- 47:21Speaker 8: But then then he busts one for twenty seven, Yeah,
- 47:23Speaker 8: or eighty or whatever. Yeah, whatever it takes.
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