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Xbox Has New Leadership and PlayStation Closes Bluepoint Games · Boss Rush Podcast - A Podcast about Video Games

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  Hello everybody, welcome back to the Bossers podcast, a great
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  place to play games and be better.
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  I'm one of your hosts, Corey Deer, and alongside me, as
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  always, is he's the most worries himself, the Ron Dawkins.
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  Yo-yo, what's poppin? Hey, La Ron.
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  Hey, Corey. I missed you.
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  I missed you last week. Yeah, I missed you too.
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  Well, I mean, you just miss seeing my face, but we talked to
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  each other all week last week. I mean, that's true.
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  Yeah, I mean, so, so yeah. Like you didn't.
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  You didn't miss me. Miss me.
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  Like you just missed enough of me.
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  I feel like if I don't see you it doesn't count.
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  Oh, OK. Yeah, you know, I feel that.
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  I feel that. I feel that because I I feel
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  like if I don't, if I don't see you guys at least once a week,
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  something's not right. Yeah, yeah.
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  Well, you know. Look at us, at us being being
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  our own, being our own mutual admiration society.
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  I don't know. We we're, we're just, we're like
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  a good bra. We're very supportive.
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  Speaking of supportive, also here's PK Power Pat Klein.
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  Consider me the wire that holds it all together.
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  He's the push up. That's.
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  The push up. Yep, I'm the one that gives you
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  the form. Oh.
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  Gosh, everybody loves good form. Everybody, everybody enjoying
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  their. This is the week of first week.
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  It's already the first week of March.
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  What's going on? What happened this month, this
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  year? Right.
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  I know it's March already. How did that happen?
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  Time just marches on. I I have no explanation for it.
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  I, I also don't, it's just, I just think like, you know,
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  tomorrow I'm going to wake up and it's like 2065 and I'm just,
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  you know, in a hospital bed somewhere just waiting, you
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  know, waiting for the the call. But until then, we're here to
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  talk about video games and we've been playing some.
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  I think I've almost finished my third game of the year.
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  I'm on the very last level. Of course, if I was just smart
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  enough, I would have finished it already.
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  But it's, you know, it's, it's, it's fine.
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  It's good. I have a few things to talk
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  about actually. But we can talk about that.
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  When, when, when it when it's my turn.
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  But I'm going to go, you know what?
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  We very rarely start with Pat. So I'm going to ask Pat.
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  Pat, keep quiet while Elon tells us what he's playing.
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  No, I'm just. Kidding.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, yeah.
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  Go. For it, Pat, what are you
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  playing? What are you?
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  What are you? What are you?
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  Joystick and button pressing. Well, I'd be shooting the guns
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  towards the zombie people in Resident Evil Requiem.
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  Oh, I see. Yeah.
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  How's that treating you? How's how's Leon S Kennedy
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  looking? He's he's looking mighty fines,
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  you know. For surviving.
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  Sick. For a guy that's sick, he's
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  still pretty damn, you know, pretty damn strong.
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  Is he sick? Is that Yeah.
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  Is that a thing? He's.
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  Got that? He's got that bruising going on.
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  I don't know. I haven't been paying attention.
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  Yeah, well, Yep. I just, I just saw an image
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  floating around of him in a maid's outfit and I got really
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  confused and concerned and just close the tab window, you know,
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  so. Are you sure you didn't minimize
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  it so that you could look at it safely later?
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  Incognito. Mm hmm.
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  It's OK, You know what? Everyone is simping on Leon S
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  Kennedy. Like, have you seen all the
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  different promotions on Twitter? You have Nintendo.
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  Simping on Leon. S Caddy.
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  Yeah, I saw that. Sony was simping on Leon, Leon S
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  Kennedy. Even McDonald's is now simping
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  on Leon S Kennedy. Where's the love for Grace?
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  I mean, she was also on the McDonald's one too.
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  But you know, it's it, it's all about the the Leon S Kennedy
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  that that's why they promoted Grace early.
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  It's because everyone knew that once Leon entered the scene, it
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  was going to be a hymn show. I mean, that's, I guess that's
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  fine. But also, I don't know, I kind
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  of like, I kind of like kind of like Grace.
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  She seems all right. She is actually, she is a
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  awesome protagonist in the new Resident Evil game.
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  Her character is very much like, very personal, like you can
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  easily relate to her. She is a extremely antisocial
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  person, does not really talk to anyone or anything, primarily
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  just works and then goes home. And so now she is thrust into
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  this conspiracy of evil. Is it a conspiracy?
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  This is the 9th 1. Is it a conspiracy at this
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  point? It's a conspiracy every freaking
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  time, man, they find something new to be like.
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  And this was all behind the scenes.
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  Yeah, something, something's happening.
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  I mean, you got, you got Wesker over here.
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  He got, you know, the president's daughter over here
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  trying, trying to simp on Leon, you know, just just feels like,
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  I don't know, man. Feels like something you think
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  Leon knows. You think he knows?
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  That all this is a setup to get Leon to go to certain locations.
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  And. Show off his guns.
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  Just just a question, you know, just just wanted to make sure.
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  You know, you got to play the game to find out like is, is
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  that the true scenario that's going on?
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  But I've got like 5 other ones to play before this one.
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  I mean, it, this game is connected to quite a few of the
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  Resident Evil games, which is really cool.
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  It's it's nice how they continue to take the Resident Evil lore
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  and continue to spin it in new ways and bring up new
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  revelations that you kind of didn't see coming.
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  But also, you know, they probably didn't also see coming
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  until they decided, hey, we could probably morph it into
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  this kind of a or evolve the story in this such a way.
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  But what's cool is that you do go back into Raccoon City with
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  this one, and there's a lot of a lot of nostalgia in some of the
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  places that you visit in it. The game is absolutely gorgeous.
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  The blood physics are insanely crazy in this game, like they
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  will splatter everywhere and the splatters just stay.
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  Like they'll just dry. Out on the wall and this and and
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  the ceilings and you know, you get some nice some nice good
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  explosion like bursts that just it it it's a lot of good
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  splattering going on with the the blood atmosphere beautiful.
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  It's dark, it's Moody. There are some really creepy
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  zombies in this game, and what's cool is that a lot of these
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  zombies also have backstories behind them too.
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  What? That's right.
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  What? Yeah.
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  There's like 2 singing zombies that have like backstories in
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  this like the, the zombies are a little smarter now.
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  They, they kind, the T virus has mutated in such a way that the
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  victims kind of still have some memories of their prior self.
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  And so those memories or tendencies tend to also like
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  amplify in the zombie as well. Such as if someone like one of
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  them was like a zombie that loved to eat and the virus kind
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  of mutated that part of his brain so that he kind of became
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  this giant like like flabby zombie that just needs to
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  constantly eat. Nice, but yeah, as opposed to
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  what zombies normally do. Also eat, but not, as you know,
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  ferociously. Yeah, I know.
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  Mm hmm. They they also tend to speak a
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  little bit now too. They they have a little bit of
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  some vocabulary like the fat 1 keeps like telling you to to go
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  fuck you. And you know, it's it's weird,
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  but the game has definitely crossed the line of trying to be
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  like realistic to being more of like that fantasy that most men
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  have about being action stars. I feel it's not necessarily a
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  bad thing. Like it, it still fits the mold
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  in Resident Evil, but it's it's also like, you know, it, it's
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  definitely more unrealistic than it has been It it it's starting
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  to cross that line into Bayonetta unrealistic, but some
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  of the action scenes. But yeah, Grace's parts are,
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  they're quite suspenseful. There are several times you're
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  being chased around by creatures of immense power.
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  And then Leon is definitely more of an action based combat or
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  more of an action based level. Like he will have multiple
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  hordes of zombies coming after him and but he also has like all
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  the guns so. This kind of sounds like what
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  they wanted to do with six but never quite got there of like
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  multiple play styles but. Yeah, no, it's, it's that
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  they've they took what I think made a lot of the resident evils
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  good. Like you have the the hallways
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  and corridors of like 2, you have the gunplay of four and
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  then you also have the first person view of 7 and they mix
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  them all into this game and. It but you can play the whole
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  game third person though, right? You can.
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  In fact the game kind of recommends that you do Grace as
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  a first person, but you can switch her over to 1st or sorry
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  3rd. And then they recommend that you
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  do Leon as third person but you could also switch him over to
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  1st so you know it. The the game has a play style,
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  but you can change it to however you want to change it.
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  Good. But it it's a it's a beautiful
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  game. It's a very fun game.
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  It is definitely in my top five Resident evils.
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  I think when I was talking about it with Story last night on the
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  games cast, like I'd probably put it as like my fourth
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  favorite, but Story thinks this is like one of his top three.
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  So what it So you said it's your top five, So what are your other
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  4? Code Veronica 2.
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  The original 2 or 7. Remake OK 7/7 and free make 3.
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  Remake 3 yeah would be 5. OK, OK, that's that.
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  I respect that. I respect that because because I
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  would say I would say Remake 3, Remake 2, Remake 3, Remake 2.
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  I haven't played seven and eight, unfortunately.
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  Code Veronica for sure RE. 4. Maybe I'll tell you some, I'll
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  I'll tell you more about it 'cause I just, I just got RE4
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  Gold edition, so RE4 Remake Gold edition.
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  So I might, you know, like actually Rancher X fox cap we're
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  on chat talk about Remake 3. That's a that's a take.
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  Now you know what, let me just go ahead and justify this.
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  Like I love Resident Evil 3 nemesis, like from the old PS1
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  dates. I love that game.
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  But if I'm being really serious, they did a lot to actually make
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  the story more cohesive in the RE3 Remake.
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  You know, also take into account that they were doing RE3 Remake
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  and RE2 Remake at the same time. So the two teams were working
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  together to make sure everything was seamless, but they ran out.
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  Weren't they supposed to? Weren't they supposed to be
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  packaged together originally? Packaged together as A2 Fer Yep
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  yeah, so so yeah. But honestly, like I like what
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  they did with RE3 remake, even though like clock towers missing
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  who cares about The Who cares about the graveyard?
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  I'm just going to say that right now, you know, like, OK, the
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  waste disposal plant, you know OK yeah, like that.
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  That's kind of crucial. But the fact that Jill wound up
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  back in the nest facility, you know, and you know the nest
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  facility was also a big deal in Resident Evil 2 remake.
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  You know like I like that. I appreciate that they tried to
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  make the two games work together 'cause 'cause everybody knows
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  the Resident Evil history knows that RE two and three were
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  taking place around the same, concurrent, around the same
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  time, like, you know, within two days of each other.
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  Yep, it's. It goes 3, but then 2 takes
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  place during a break in three, and then three picks back up
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  right after 2. Finishes.
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  Yeah, technically. Technically they say the
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  timeline is like when Jill was like knocked out because he was
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  infected. That was when RE 2 was picking
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  up. Isn't the the whole thing like
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  Resident Evil because they Capcom signed some sort of
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  agreement with PlayStation that they would have 3 numbered games
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  on the PlayStation that like they had to call that Resident
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  Evil 3 even though Code Veronica is kind of like the true sequel
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  and three is more of what we would probably call an expansion
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  these days. Yeah, that's what it was.
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  Yeah. That's what it was and, and, and
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  honestly and, and honestly, like Resident Evil, Resident Evil 3,
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  Resident Evil 3 Nemesis technically shouldn't have
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  happened, but they, but they were also committed to three
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  games for the PlayStation. They committed to that.
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  So. So they were already working on
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  Code Veronica and it just happened to be on the Dreamcast.
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  Yeah, I mean, that's, that's, I mean, that's fine.
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  I, I, I, it's always weird to see like they'll learn the
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  little tidbits of, of those things, right?
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  Or like what games were supposed to be what?
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  And then they were turned into something else, or you know,
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  what the true sequel is supposed to be or you know, that sort of
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  that sort of thing. It's always fun to see that sort
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  of thing. So and then we got the the the
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  best Resident Evil on the game Cube anyway, so it doesn't even
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  matter. Are you 1 remake?
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  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I, as a matter of fact, I,
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  I, I installed the RE-1 remake on the on my ROG Ally.
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  I was planning on playing it but but I've been playing other
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  Capcom games on my on my ROG Ally.
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  Capcom Capcom man not out killing it.
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  We are killing it, and you know, by the time you guys all listen
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  to this episode, if you're not listening it to it live,
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  there'll be a Capcom A. New event.
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  Spotlight. Tomorrow.
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  Yeah. Tomorrow.
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  Really. Yeah.
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  What are they? What are they?
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  What are they showing? What are they?
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  Monster Hunter Mega Man Star Star Force, Mega Man 11, not 11,
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  the dual OverDrive. But I think I think they said
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  they might be announcing the the robot, the awards for the robot
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  master design. So I don't know if they're
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  officially also announcing who won, but they'll at least be
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  giving off prizes to some of the ones who lost.
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  That's cool though. I'm I'm, I think that was a cool
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  thing that they brought back, even though it's not really the
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  same thing, but it's still really cool.
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  Yeah, and story, to answer your question, I sure as hell hope
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  that they're going to announce something here soon.
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  They said they're going to revisit the Phoenix, right?
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  Series like that was one of their like top series that they
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  need to revisit again so. What if what if Capcom did a
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  full like Resident Evil 2 style remake of Phoenix right where
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  everything was in like full 3D like open world like.
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  I I would say objection to that. Well, you know.
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  Or you'll just see demesis on the other side of the courtroom
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  going like it'll be like in caption too, you know, Starr or
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  STAAR. Jesus, he's Yeller.
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  Yeller yeller. There's something wrong with
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  y'all. You brought it up, not us.
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  Who brought it up? Yep.
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  I don't know. It was me.
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  I think actually I know. You're not talking to me.
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  Always talking to the run. But yeah, if anyone's ever
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  interested in trying to get into Resident Evil, like, yeah, this
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  has a lot of ties back to the old series, but it's still very
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  playable on its own. And also the the game's got a
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  really good villain to it. Victor, Victor Gideon, the
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  doctor with this like face mask. He's at, you know, he looks kind
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  of dumb, but he's been very enjoyable to watch.
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  He's very his scenes are very entertaining.
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  He's almost got this like Heath Ledger Joker quality where he's
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  a very soft spoken and kind of polite, like personality.
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  But there's also like, the hint of like, this guy is like, mad,
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  like crazy. Nice.
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  Yeah, he looks creepy. Yeah, I don't know.
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  I, I, I, I mean, obviously been, I've seen the trailers and stuff
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  and he just looks really scary, like creepy looking like, I
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  don't know, like drippy, oozy, kind of like just give him a
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  shower. He.
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  He. He looks greasy.
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  You know, he, he's very pale. His hair is all straggly, you
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  know, his teeth are yellow like he, he looks like he smells
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  really freaking bad. But he he's, he's very
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  entertaining when he speaks as well as a few other scenes.
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  But you know, you got to play the game to see those like
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  really crazy scenes. Yeah, I'll get to it someday.
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  Maybe That's a that's a that's a, that's a franchise on my list
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  this year. Although these these freaking
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  firearm games, just I just I'm just just feel stupid playing
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  them. But got to, I got to finish.
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  I got to finish it, you know. Yep.
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  Can't go unfinished. Yeah, pick it up.
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  You got pick it up, dust it off. Just go through it, Corey, just
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  like RIP it like a Band-Aid and just suck up, put your big boy
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  pants on, maybe a diaper if you need to piss yourself while
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  playing these games, but you're going to play them.
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  I really. Don't think it's I'm going to
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  like, so I've been like thinking about, I mean, I've been
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  thinking about Resident Evil a lot lately, obviously because
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  the new one is out. But also like I've actually
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  played a lot more Resident Evil than I remember.
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  Like like you know, off the top of the head where you're like,
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  oh, I don't think I've played that franchise.
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  And you start thinking all I've played through one.
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  I've played most of Zero. I've played through 4:00 and
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  4:00 Remake 56, you know, I've played, you know, what are the
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  the 3DS one Revelations like? I've played a lot.
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  I've played a lot of Resident Evil, more than I actually
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  thought I did. But obviously those ones aren't
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  the scary ones. So one's kind of scary, but.
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  I mean just switch it to third person mode.
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  Yeah. But.
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  Play with the lights on in the middle of the day, have my wife
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  sitting next to me holding my hand, you know, making sure I'm
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  OK, you know, that sort of thing.
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  She'll just be like, yeah, right, Get out of here.
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  I'll be like, OK, bye. She's.
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  Like just give me the controller, I'll get you past
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  that part. Yeah, well, are you playing
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  anything else, Pat? Anything else interesting, fun,
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  new? No, that's really the only new
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  thing I've been playing noteworthy for this show.
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  Nice. Cool.
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  Yeah. Resident Evil IA series I really
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  want to love. And I'm just I don't know.
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  I don't know why I can't just get past the the hurdle.
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  But LeBron, what are you playing?
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  You said you're playing a lot of Capcom games.
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  Speaking of. Actually, that more like playing
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  a lot of a Capcom game, the Monster Hunter Stories 3 demo or
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  trial version or whatever you want to call it.
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  I am thinking this is probably going to be my best, my
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  favorite, my favorite entry in the Monster Hunter series.
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  Like first of all, like anyone who's ever played any of the,
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  any of the demo versions of the Monster Hunter stories games
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  you're playing, you're playing about a good solid, like, you
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  know, like, like I'd say like if you do it right, you're playing
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  a good 10-15 hours of the, of the, of the actual intro of the
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  game and stuff like that. So like this is a good, this is
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  a good way to get yourself acclimated to, to the, to the
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  style of the game. There's a new, they, I like the
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  way they remix the battle system for the game.
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  Like if you if, if, if you are, if you played a lot of monster
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  stories too, you're already familiar with it.
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  But now, like it seems like there is there is a lot more,
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  there's a lot more involved in the in battle because it seems
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  like you always have a secondary hunter with you.
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  So, so and yeah, of course you can't control like what they do
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  and how they synergize with their, with their monster that
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  their monster companion. But some interesting stuff does
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  happen to where like basically like everybody just winds up dog
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  piling on the opponent's not stuff.
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  It's really fun. I like it.
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  I like the changes. I'm still getting used to some
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  of it. I guess I I've gotten a little
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  rusty because because I've not so much that I've forgotten like
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  what what the weaknesses are of the monsters is more like I've
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  forgotten their tendencies of the monsters.
• 23:44
  So like, I'm so like I'll accidentally like do a technique
• 23:46
  attack when I should have done a speed attack or something like
• 23:48
  that, you know, and it's because I've just forgotten like what
• 23:50
  how the monsters attacked from the other from the previous
• 23:53
  games, you know, like, because some does like philosophy, for
• 23:56
  example, they, they, they use a, they use a speed attack for you.
• 23:59
  So you're supposed to use a technique attack to to thwart
• 24:02
  them. And you know, when the, and when
• 24:04
  the outcome and stuff like that. I've just kind of forgotten the
• 24:06
  monster tendencies and stuff like that.
• 24:07
  I love the story and I'm getting I'm getting tired.
• 24:11
  I'm getting tired of these Monster Hunter games always
• 24:13
  saying Rathalos is the problem. Isn't Rathalos always the
• 24:18
  problem? Rathalos and Rathi are my
• 24:21
  favorite my favorite monsters and I'm getting tired of them
• 24:25
  all three games. Rathalos is the problem.
• 24:28
  I'm. Getting Excuse me, Sir, they're
• 24:30
  called Monsties. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm.
• 24:35
  Always. It's always the red dragon.
• 24:37
  Every time the red dragon. You know, and I think that's AI
• 24:40
  think that's a theme too, because like, you know, a lot of
• 24:42
  a lot of like, like, you know, like fantasy, like type stuff,
• 24:45
  particularly in Japanese fantasy and stuff like that, you know,
• 24:48
  like the it's the red Dragons or the black Dragons are always
• 24:51
  wrecking shit. You know, you know, they
• 24:54
  haven't, they haven't introduced any black Dragons in the in the
• 24:57
  monstering series. And when I say black Dragons, I
• 24:59
  mean like, well, they had a Fatalis, but that was more like
• 25:02
  a a bonus. Like, you know, like once in in
• 25:05
  in new game plus where you're fighting the tower, you know,
• 25:07
  but you know, beyond that, you know, like the the black Dragons
• 25:11
  that really caused all the calamities in, in the in the
• 25:14
  mainstream monstering titles. Most of them never been a been a
• 25:17
  thing for for stories and they always make and they always make
• 25:21
  up a new monster, you know, for like like a final boss monster.
• 25:24
  They always make up a new monster for the Monster Hunter
• 25:26
  stories game. So I can't wait to see what what
• 25:28
  what 3 has in store for us. I do like the storyline.
• 25:34
  The storyline is great. Like it.
• 25:36
  They're definitely focusing a lot more on like the actual the
• 25:40
  the the actual the characters, you know, and that's saying a
• 25:45
  lot because monster and stories too, did a lot for like
• 25:48
  character progression and and growth, you know, But this game,
• 25:51
  this game, it seems like you like like they're making you the
• 25:54
  player more the center focus of the game, you know, at least
• 25:59
  based off of what I've seen this trial so far.
• 26:01
  But yeah, it's fun. It's Monster Hunter, you know,
• 26:04
  like hatched those eggs get your, you know, add add the
• 26:07
  monsters to your stable. I already can't wait to see like
• 26:09
  what monsters I can get this time around.
• 26:12
  Nice. And then and then I'm still, I'm
• 26:15
  still playing Front Mission 3. Go ahead, Corey, what you about
• 26:18
  to say? I was going to say I really
• 26:20
  liked what I played on Monster Hunter Stories too.
• 26:21
  This one looks really nice, like I hope it runs well on the
• 26:25
  switch. Too, this is this is the most
• 26:28
  beautiful entry in the Monster Hunter story series because I
• 26:31
  because because monster Stories 1, you know, basically was like,
• 26:35
  you know, it was, it was like a it was like a Kitty version of
• 26:39
  Monster Hunter for the most part.
• 26:40
  You know, even like the way they designed the characters and the
• 26:42
  actual monsters themselves and stuff like that.
• 26:44
  Monster stories too, like, you know, like it's still it still
• 26:48
  had that kid thing going on, but the monsters actually look, you
• 26:51
  know, they they actually looked more more true to their form in
• 26:55
  the from the Monster Hunter series for the main series and
• 26:58
  stuff like that. It didn't look like chibified
• 27:00
  like versions of those monsters and stuff like that and monster.
• 27:02
  Yeah, well, I think, I think the last two though, right, 'cause
• 27:05
  like they were made for 3DS and Switch originally, right?
• 27:08
  So like they had to change certain things because of just
• 27:11
  the sheer lack of power on those machines.
• 27:13
  But I feel like the Switch too is generally, you know, just as
• 27:18
  powerful as like a low end console at this point, so.
• 27:22
  Oh, and, and, and just writing your monsters out in the wild
• 27:25
  now, like, you know, to explore, to explore territories and stuff
• 27:27
  like that. Like there's different options
• 27:30
  now. Like you can like, like for
• 27:31
  example, reckless can do an actual fire breath attack, you
• 27:34
  know, to monsters on the on the screen and you can actually put
• 27:37
  them in a downstate to where you can get a pre emptive strike on
• 27:39
  them. Or like, you know, like, and
• 27:41
  then there's other things like, you know, like they like they
• 27:44
  can still roar and incontest 8 monsters, so you can run past
• 27:46
  them and other things like that. Of course, like every every
• 27:49
  monster that you have as a as a mount, they have their own
• 27:52
  particular thing going on. So, you know, like some, some
• 27:54
  are really climbing, some, some fly, some Burrow underground,
• 27:58
  some, some, you know, just just, I'm just going to bulldoze my
• 28:01
  way through everything, you know.
• 28:03
  So yeah, like, like there's a there's a lot of familiar stuff,
• 28:06
  but there's a lot of new stuff in the game that actually, you
• 28:09
  know, actually makes us the the season players.
• 28:14
  Like, you know, actually, OK, you got to put a little bit of
• 28:16
  brain brain power behind this. I like it, I like it, I like it.
• 28:20
  I'm trying to figure out what version of the game I'm going to
• 28:22
  pre-order. Am I going to pre-order the base
• 28:24
  game, the deluxe game, or the premium deluxe game?
• 28:26
  I don't think I'm you need to get the one with all the the
• 28:28
  swimsuit costumes. We need to see that Rathalos in
• 28:33
  its sexy bikini. Yeah, we need, we need a
• 28:37
  Rathalos Speedo. You just got you just you just
• 28:41
  want to see the you just want to see the Rathalos horn.
• 28:43
  I know, I know, I know what you guys are on.
• 28:45
  You know, don't give away the big secrets.
• 28:50
  Yeah, I can't. I can't wait for the game to
• 28:52
  come out though. Yeah, it looks, it looks really
• 28:55
  nice. It like, I don't know man,
• 28:58
  there's something about that art style that looks just really
• 29:02
  chef. So I guess so I guess this would
• 29:04
  be my second, my second game that I that I buy like straight
• 29:07
  up man yeah 'cause I'm. I have this here.
• 29:10
  I'm not 'cause I'm not 'cause I'm not waiting for, I'm not
• 29:14
  waiting for, for, for a discount on this.
• 29:16
  As a matter of fact, I'm looking for for APC discount for it
• 29:19
  right now. I mean, that's, that's fair.
• 29:23
  That is totally fair, as they say.
• 29:28
  I guess it's my turn, right? Unless you have more, you've
• 29:32
  been playing the run. No, no, besides, besides that.
• 29:35
  And besides that and front Mission 3, which I'm, I'm almost
• 29:39
  finished with that. I, I think I'm, I think I'm a
• 29:40
  little past 3/4 of the way through the game.
• 29:43
  Like the only reason why it's taking me so long to beat the
• 29:44
  game is because I'm just trying to unlock as many skills as I
• 29:47
  can for the characters. Because like I said, once I beat
• 29:49
  once I beat the one campaign that I'm on, I'm moving around
• 29:51
  to something else. Nice.
• 29:56
  Well, As for me, I have I am on the final.
• 30:00
  Well, there's 31 chapters in Fire Emblem for GBA and I'm on
• 30:07
  chapter 30. I also found out that the quote
• 30:11
  UN quote Hector campaign is just hard mode and all the levels are
• 30:15
  the same. So I'm not going to go play it.
• 30:16
  I'm not doing it, not going to do it.
• 30:18
  But it's Hector. I'm like hard mode this.
• 30:22
  I'm already having a hard time. Like no, no way.
• 30:30
  I'm really, I'm really glad I played this game because like,
• 30:35
  you know, there's a obviously a lot of franchises that we like.
• 30:41
  It's really hard to go backwards if you start at a specific
• 30:43
  place, right? Like for me, for me, Zelda is
• 30:46
  really hard to go backwards because even though the first
• 30:49
  time the first game I played was links awakening, my first, like
• 30:52
  I would, I still call my first real Zelda experience operating
• 30:56
  of time. So it's really hard for me to go
• 30:57
  backwards. Although, you know, I, I do plan
• 31:02
  on getting to some of those 2D games I missed the later this
• 31:07
  year, but I felt like I was in the mood for firearm because of
• 31:13
  path of Radiance and I thought if I don't, if I don't play this
• 31:17
  now, I'm not going to, I'm not going to be in the mood later.
• 31:20
  I don't think so. The game definitely has some
• 31:25
  things. I'm glad they fixed them later
• 31:27
  entries. Like, I don't know, being able
• 31:29
  to purchase items in between maps instead of like going to
• 31:33
  the Armory on the map and trying to get there without dying.
• 31:38
  That's definitely something that was I thought, man.
• 31:43
  And then they give you a merchant that you can't buy
• 31:45
  things from. You can only sell things to you
• 31:48
  have to level up the merchant to like level 20.
• 31:51
  But like I deploy the merchant every single map and I'm only on
• 31:56
  level 14 and I have, you know, 1 chapter to go.
• 31:59
  So I don't really know how you level up your merchant, but it's
• 32:04
  fine. It's not that important.
• 32:06
  But I did find a side quest where the entire side quest is
• 32:11
  just you going to the different item shops in this village and
• 32:15
  buying in like stocking up on items.
• 32:17
  So I am really enjoying the story.
• 32:23
  I never like I always knew like, you know, Lynn and and Hector
• 32:28
  and Ella Wood were like obviously major Fire Emblem
• 32:32
  characters, but like how I know them from Firewall Engage
• 32:37
  essentially or or firearm heroes, also the mobile game.
• 32:42
  But it's nice to see their stories and where they came from
• 32:47
  and how it's kind of like wrapping up their stories is
• 32:50
  it's fun so. I, I, I I I I can't remember.
• 32:53
  Isn't isn't Hector a little bit of a like a horn dog?
• 32:57
  Sorta, I mean, he's kind of like a, he's like.
• 32:59
  The fun guy, He's the fun guy. He's the fun guy Sane.
• 33:03
  The knight Sane is actually the horn dog.
• 33:06
  Every time a woman walks on screen, he's like trying.
• 33:09
  That's right. Yeah, that's right.
• 33:12
  And then Kent is the other knight that's kind of like the
• 33:15
  straight and narrow kind of guy. But there are two characters
• 33:21
  that I'm like, I'd have to take them every time because they,
• 33:23
  you know, I have them a Max level somehow.
• 33:25
  It's Marcus who's like the horse night out and then Oswin who's
• 33:32
  like the thick, the thick. Yeah, yeah, the axe, the axe
• 33:38
  guy, right, a man and. Then.
• 33:41
  When he's full powered he's like cleaving people.
• 33:44
  Yeah. And then I also like level up
• 33:46
  Hawkeye all the way, which you get like 2/3 of the way through
• 33:49
  the game. He's like the Native American
• 33:51
  looking dude with the tattoos on his face and his his defense is
• 33:57
  like in the 30s. I'm like, oh, you're you're
• 34:00
  you're just going to run people over all the time.
• 34:02
  Yeah. He's just tanking them.
• 34:04
  Yeah, I get. I'm like you can have two
• 34:06
  elixirs and two steel axes and this killer axe and you can just
• 34:10
  go to town. You just cleave through
• 34:12
  everybody at this point. So yeah, I'm, I'm really glad I
• 34:19
  played this game. I am ready to like put firewall
• 34:24
  them away for a little bit. Obviously I've played two
• 34:28
  back-to-back and this one's taking me a lot longer than I
• 34:30
  anticipated. I've restarted like every level
• 34:33
  from like level 20 through now probably two or three times.
• 34:38
  Level 27 Chapter 27 was like there's like 45 guys on the
• 34:44
  screen on the, on the map. And then as you kill them, if
• 34:48
  you don't take over the castles, essentially like they'll just
• 34:52
  keep responding. And so like, Oh my gosh, I'm
• 34:55
  trying to like mow my way through these enemies.
• 35:00
  And then the the boss is like, you have to have a certain type
• 35:03
  of weapon to do major damage. And so I'm like, Oh my gosh, I
• 35:08
  got that. Like I got to be real strategic
• 35:11
  here. But yeah, I'm, I'm enjoying it.
• 35:17
  The the other games I've been playing, actually, my daughter
• 35:22
  has gotten really into Animal Crossing recently.
• 35:27
  So I've been trying to play that with her.
• 35:30
  And by play it, I mean, I let her play and I'll just kind of
• 35:33
  like read the stuff she has a hard time reading.
• 35:35
  And she really likes fishing and pulling up bushes and chopping
• 35:39
  trees and collecting stuff. So it's kind of nice to find and
• 35:44
  see that she found a game that she like, doesn't feel stressed
• 35:47
  out playing cuz she likes Mario Kart.
• 35:48
  But when she loses, she feels really like down and kind of,
• 35:54
  you know, I mean, she doesn't know how to play very well.
• 35:56
  So, but yeah, that's, that's kind of all I've been playing,
• 36:02
  trying to figure out what I'm going to play next.
• 36:04
  Oh, the other thing I played, I, I played the marathon server
• 36:10
  slam. So.
• 36:14
  So what were your what were your thoughts?
• 36:15
  Because every time, because every time I tried to log on, I
• 36:18
  could never get in. Yeah, I mean, I I played twice
• 36:22
  over the weekend and it was I didn't have any issues over the
• 36:25
  weekend. Yeah, I mean, I made two, I made
• 36:29
  two strong attempts to to to try to try to get in.
• 36:31
  I tried on Saturday and I tried on Sunday and each time, well,
• 36:36
  on Sunday I was actually able to successfully get in.
• 36:39
  But then like I kept it, kept timing out.
• 36:42
  Like once I was actually like trying to get ready for a map,
• 36:45
  you know, And I'm not sure, maybe I'm not, I'm not sure.
• 36:48
  Maybe it was just something going on, on my end or what not.
• 36:50
  I know people played the game and I and I and I saw the
• 36:53
  concurrent counts for like for like the the weekend on Steam.
• 36:57
  I was on the unfortunate ones that couldn't get it and get
• 36:59
  into it. So you know, you know, yeah.
• 37:05
  I liked it. I don't love it, but also like
• 37:10
  this is clearly a game you need to spend a lot more time with
• 37:13
  than just a couple hours. And you know, obviously it being
• 37:18
  Bungie and me being a big Destiny person, like I knew it
• 37:23
  was not Destiny. I was not expecting it to feel
• 37:26
  that different from Destiny in terms of like movement and
• 37:30
  shooting, even though the shooting does feel like a bungee
• 37:33
  game. It feels different than Destiny.
• 37:35
  It's like a little bit more the term I used over the weekend was
• 37:40
  deliberate. It like everything feels more
• 37:44
  tactical and, and deliberate and like, you know, learning the
• 37:48
  different kind of skeletons that you can use right, like the
• 37:52
  assassin or, you know, there's, I forget what the one is called
• 37:57
  Glitch I think is the the character, but I don't remember
• 38:02
  what her skeleton is called. And then obviously like the
• 38:04
  tanky type kind of this is the skeleton you play as if you
• 38:09
  don't play very many games like this.
• 38:14
  So I I like it. The inventory screen is very
• 38:19
  cluttered and clumsy. It feels, which I thought it was
• 38:23
  just me. I was like, man, maybe I just
• 38:25
  not used to playing extraction shooters, but a lot of people, I
• 38:28
  guess a lot of people have been complaining about the UI and
• 38:31
  just how cluttered the interfaces.
• 38:33
  And, you know, some people were calling it text slop, OK.
• 38:41
  Well, we haven't. We have a new nickname.
• 38:46
  So I'm interested to play more. It's I don't know, I I know like
• 38:53
  the whole extraction shooter thing is like a very specific
• 38:57
  vibe. I man, I don't know if it's for
• 39:00
  me or not. But again, you know, this is
• 39:05
  definitely a game you should be playing with friends and
• 39:07
  communicating over Mike and kind of playing together.
• 39:12
  I do like the weapon variety. I will say I do like the fact
• 39:20
  that it the the way the health system works is different
• 39:24
  because it's not a charging health.
• 39:25
  It's you have to find Med packs and shield generators to to
• 39:30
  recharge everything. One of the other things I do
• 39:33
  like is if you are in a building and you see enemies outside, at
• 39:38
  least a couple of maps I was playing, the buildings have like
• 39:43
  panic doors essentially where like they go out like these big
• 39:48
  kind of panels go up over the windows, the doors lock and then
• 39:52
  you have to find like a way out essentially before they break
• 39:54
  in. So that's kind of cool.
• 39:58
  Navigating the maps is I don't know, I feel like the maps are
• 40:03
  definitely more deliberate than even Destiny maps are.
• 40:08
  I mean, I know Destiny maps are designed to be kind of really
• 40:11
  open and and you know, you find secrets and stuff, but these
• 40:14
  feel way more like. Deliberately designed for this
• 40:20
  type of game, which is nice to see.
• 40:23
  I do have to say though, the the art style still stands out.
• 40:27
  It's still like a really great looking game.
• 40:33
  The the mat kind of neon colors and the kind of tech vibe thing
• 40:39
  that has going on. It's really cool man.
• 40:42
  And I know like they had the whole art theft thing over the
• 40:47
  last year, but like, it's still an amazing looking game.
• 40:53
  I love the art style. So I'm definitely going to spend
• 40:58
  more time with it this weekend, obviously so, but yeah, it's I
• 41:04
  did. I I liked it.
• 41:07
  I didn't love it. But again, it's it's one of
• 41:11
  those things where I'm just going to spend more time with
• 41:13
  it. I think so, but that's.
• 41:20
  I look forward to playing, I look forward to playing it when
• 41:22
  it comes out. Yeah, so it comes out tomorrow
• 41:26
  actually. So as of this recording, so it
• 41:30
  will unlock at midnight tonight. And yeah, but let's Speaking of
• 41:39
  March. March every year.
• 41:41
  There's always that combination of a gory game or like a adult
• 41:45
  game and a kids game. Remember back in 2020 when it
• 41:50
  was Doom and Animal Crossing? Yeah, and now it's now it's
• 41:56
  polka, pocopia and marathon. Yeah, that's well, also Resident
• 42:03
  Evil. Yeah, yeah, that it's, it's the
• 42:08
  Barbieheimer of the of 2026. Yes, the Barbenheimer of 2026.
• 42:16
  Yeah, I kind of like, I kind of like that.
• 42:18
  Description. Poke it in evil.
• 42:23
  Yeah, the Poke it evil, Evil, Copia evil.
• 42:33
  I don't know Ecopia. Side side tangent before we get
• 42:38
  into the the topics, Pat, did you watch?
• 42:40
  Did you watch the Pokémon Presents thing at all?
• 42:43
  Did you see the new starters, people?
• 42:50
  I did. I did.
• 42:52
  Yeah, how's how, how you feeling?
• 42:56
  I I think I'm going to have to go with brooch the they call it
• 43:01
  the seed chick or a bean chick. Bean.
• 43:05
  Check Bean. Check.
• 43:06
  Yeah is what the official term type of Pokémon it is.
• 43:13
  I know Taylor is going to get the gecko.
• 43:17
  I forget what the gecko's name was.
• 43:20
  And Geckwa. Or something right that's.
• 43:24
  Geckwa And then of course you have the Pomeranian that looks
• 43:31
  like something that Toby Keith created or Toby Fox created.
• 43:35
  Oh, I was like, huh, I. Was like Toby.
• 43:38
  Toby Fox, the creator of Undertale.
• 43:44
  Yeah, that fire, I, I always pick fire type.
• 43:46
  So I guess I'm getting the dog. So I I, I think it looks really
• 43:55
  nice. We'll see.
• 43:58
  I guess we'll see when it comes out if it, you know, runs and
• 44:01
  looks better than Scarlet and Violet did on the switch.
• 44:04
  But yeah, no, I mean, I don't know.
• 44:07
  It's a good start. And I think I think we need to
• 44:10
  find out a little bit more because I have heard rumors that
• 44:14
  it's going to be like islands that are procedurally generated.
• 44:17
  Yeah. What?
• 44:19
  I've I've kind of heard that a little bit, but I don't know how
• 44:23
  much weight that like holds. You know why I was really into
• 44:32
  fresh? No, no, no.
• 44:38
  Why would that be? Randomly generated is not new
• 44:40
  and fresh. It's LLM slop.
• 44:48
  You heard me. Oh man, sorry.
• 44:55
  I just have to say that anyways not important Pokémon fire dog
• 44:59
  ready ready for ready for that ready for my daughter to as soon
• 45:04
  as I turn it on to ask me where EV is literally as soon as I
• 45:07
  turn it on. Where do you?
• 45:09
  Is that her? Is that her favorite Pokémon?
• 45:11
  He loves EV loves, loves love it's.
• 45:14
  Time it's time for them to get some new EV evolutions.
• 45:18
  They're still the types that EV has not gone in yet.
• 45:22
  What was the last one they introduced?
• 45:24
  The belief 1 Fairy. The fairy one.
• 45:29
  Yep. Yeah.
• 45:31
  The leaf and ice one were introduced, I believe in three.
• 45:38
  You had psychic and dark introduced in two, and then you
• 45:42
  had fairy introduced in six. OK, I yeah, whatever the one
• 45:51
  where the fairy type was originally introduced, which I
• 45:55
  think was Styx the the France 1. Yes, Aw, we watch.
• 46:02
  I'm French. Cool.
• 46:09
  Well, Pokémon winds and waves. Guess we'll talk about that next
• 46:14
  year when it comes out. Gosh, next year seems so far
• 46:16
  away, yet it's so close. No, given that we're already in
• 46:20
  March. I know, don't remind me.
• 46:24
  Speaking of not being reminded of, how about first of all,
• 46:30
  which which crazy thing do we want to talk about first?
• 46:34
  Sony closing blue point? The Xbox.
• 46:38
  Actually, let's talk about Sony closing blue, blue point.
• 46:42
  Let's talk. Let's talk about that first
• 46:43
  because I feel like I feel like that's going to take a lot less
• 46:46
  of our energy. I mean, is it?
• 46:51
  This was a weird. This was all.
• 46:52
  Sucking. I was like I so OK, so for those
• 46:56
  who don't know, Sony obviously bought Blue Point after the
• 47:01
  Demon Souls remake on PS-5. They were supposedly working on
• 47:06
  a live service God of War game, although that was never like
• 47:10
  confirmed by anybody except for Jason Schreyer and other
• 47:14
  reporters that were whatever they announced last Thursday
• 47:20
  that Blue Point was closing and it shocked a lot of people
• 47:25
  because they've done a lot of amazing work.
• 47:29
  You know, they, they did the Metal Gear Solid HD collection
• 47:33
  on 360 and PS3, They did the Uncharted collection for PS4.
• 47:38
  They did obviously Demon Souls, Shadow the Colossus remakes.
• 47:41
  They ported Titanfall to the Xbox 360 from the Xbox One,
• 47:48
  which was how I played Titanfall originally and it was awesome.
• 47:54
  Remind me Blue Point also was originally the the from Japan
• 47:58
  studios right? Nope, they spun out of or they
• 48:02
  were ex retro people. OK, OK.
• 48:09
  What? Haven't happened to the from
• 48:11
  Japan's group. I don't, I don't know.
• 48:16
  I'm not sure cuz. You know, we, we, we got the
• 48:18
  last guardian and that was like the last we ever heard of them.
• 48:22
  Oh, he's working on something new.
• 48:25
  Iweda is working on something. I forget what it is but it's.
• 48:31
  I don't know if it came out or not, but it's along the point.
• 48:34
  Did the Shadow Colossus remake right?
• 48:37
  Yeah. OK, that's why I'm mixing them
• 48:41
  together. Yeah, and I think we all thought
• 48:46
  that they got a war remake trilogy was probably going to be
• 48:48
  remade by them too. And well, guess not.
• 48:54
  But I don't know, LeBron, I'm starting with you.
• 48:57
  How do you feel about this? I feel like this is a really big
• 49:00
  kick in the stones actually. Blue Point Studio was doing a
• 49:06
  really wonderful job of doing of handling like ports and remakes
• 49:09
  for, for Sony and stuff like that.
• 49:11
  As a matter of fact, I feel like Blue Point single handedly helps
• 49:14
  save, Well, not maybe not single handedly, but it definitely
• 49:17
  helps save the PS-5 launch with the Demon souls with with Demon
• 49:21
  souls, you know? I mean what else do they have
• 49:22
  besides Miles Morales even though that was PS4 game too.
• 49:27
  Yeah. Zack boys big adventure, I mean.
• 49:32
  Yeah, but I mean, I, I, I don't know, like blue point.
• 49:35
  I don't, I, I, I, I still don't understand the logic.
• 49:39
  And the more and more I read, you know, the, the, the
• 49:42
  explanation for it, it doesn't make much sense, you know, And
• 49:45
  then the fact that we just found out I, I read this yesterday on
• 49:48
  VGC that they actually pitched A Bloodborne remake that Sony
• 49:52
  turned down. MM hmm.
• 49:55
  The thing that people were asking for now, I'm not sure if
• 49:58
  I'm not sure if I'm not sure if that's just an unfounded rumor
• 50:01
  or someone's lying. You know of what not.
• 50:04
  But still, you know, Sony's known for like the last five
• 50:07
  years people have been begging for a Bloodborne remake.
• 50:10
  I mean, I think people would. Begging for live service action
• 50:13
  games, live service massive multiplayer games is what people
• 50:17
  have been begging for. Yeah, yeah.
• 50:21
  I mean, look at, look at fair games.
• 50:24
  Can't wait for that. I mean, we got.
• 50:28
  Our. We got our high guard like what
• 50:33
  more do you guys want? I want to say that it's, it's
• 50:42
  like out of all the studios, right that have either done
• 50:45
  something or or haven't done things or are kind of like
• 50:48
  wasting time and money and effort at this point, right?
• 50:51
  Like, and I'm not, I'm not saying like the developers
• 50:56
  themselves aren't giving any effort, but it's like you're
• 50:59
  chasing this live service initiative, but you have already
• 51:03
  purchased and shut down to live service studios, right?
• 51:09
  You cancelled The Last of Us Online, you cancelled Ben's
• 51:14
  game, which was supposedly in the siphon filter universe.
• 51:19
  You cancelled this God of War live service game.
• 51:22
  You're putting out this, you know, Horizon Hunters gathering
• 51:28
  game, which to be fair, looks fine.
• 51:31
  I mean, it looks fine before you know.
• 51:37
  Monster Hunter. It actually looks more like
• 51:40
  Dauntless Lauren. Remember that Monster Hunter
• 51:44
  Dauntless, not RIP off, but like, I guess Monster Hunter
• 51:47
  like and dauntless, that kind of that's that was the first game I
• 51:50
  thought of when I saw this. But then like it's like, OK,
• 51:57
  well, Sony's kind of just like lucky that they're like
• 52:02
  PlayStation is a brand that people love because like if you
• 52:08
  compare and, and I'm not just saying this because I well, I
• 52:12
  would say because I play on Xbox, I really don't anymore,
• 52:16
  but I mean, I kind of do, but whatever.
• 52:18
  Anyway, it's not important, but like you compare their
• 52:21
  portfolios this generation, it's like it's kind of like along the
• 52:26
  same lines of like you do what? Where's your output?
• 52:29
  You know, your you know, your two biggest single player games
• 52:34
  were cross Gen. and horizon and God of War.
• 52:38
  Ghost of Sushima is like really their first kind of major major
• 52:42
  single player outside of I guess spider man 2 also, but like you
• 52:47
  know, it makes. Me, go to your time.
• 52:49
  Yeah, go to Deote. Yeah.
• 52:51
  That's what I meant, yeah. And it's like, OK, how like.
• 52:57
  Astrobot, they did. Astrobots.
• 53:00
  Yeah, but I I wouldn't say Astrobot's high profile like
• 53:04
  quadruple a single player story driven sad dad simulator right
• 53:08
  like. Dad Dad simulator.
• 53:12
  Maybe that's a problem. Sony just keeps making the same
• 53:15
  damn game. Or the same type of game.
• 53:20
  In all of its series. And now like what?
• 53:23
  Made astrobot special was Astrobot was not sad dad
• 53:26
  simulator. Yeah.
• 53:29
  And now like, you know, you, you have these great studios that
• 53:35
  you're closing down because you were chasing this dream, which
• 53:38
  don't get me wrong, I think Sony should be involved in this
• 53:43
  because of, you know, AB or C, right.
• 53:45
  But like, don't don't wait, don't like utilize the town that
• 53:51
  you have for what they're good at.
• 53:53
  Don't you know, OK, if even if blue point did pitch this God of
• 53:57
  War multiplayer game, like you should have the the balls to say
• 54:02
  no, you, you were purchased for this reason, right?
• 54:06
  You are the remake studio. You know, it's like, it's like,
• 54:10
  it's like asking Nixus to make a, you know, the next, the
• 54:15
  sequel to Astrobot. Did blue point actually?
• 54:19
  I thought it was the other way around.
• 54:20
  I thought Sony told Blue point to.
• 54:23
  Make supposedly, supposedly Blue Point pitched this God of War
• 54:29
  game because they wanted to work on something that wasn't a
• 54:32
  remake. But it's like, but we purchased
• 54:41
  you to make this game. You're, you know, be the remake
• 54:45
  studio. We purchased Nyxis to be the PC
• 54:48
  porting studio, which by all accounts like Sony's getting out
• 54:52
  of the publishing first part. Or you know, single player games
• 54:55
  to PC now apparently. Yeah, I, I, I don't want to
• 54:59
  believe that until I actually see like something concrete.
• 55:02
  I didn't want to believe it either until I saw saw like, I
• 55:08
  don't know how reputable these sites are anymore if they're
• 55:10
  just trying to click bait or not.
• 55:12
  But like I saw like Polygon tweet about it.
• 55:15
  I saw not Game Informer, the other one, GameSpot talk about
• 55:23
  it like like sites that people like, I don't want to say
• 55:27
  actually visit, but you know, like the, the, the big names
• 55:29
  from like 10 years ago essentially start talking about
• 55:33
  it and it's like, well, what are you doing?
• 55:38
  You know, like who's running this ship at this point, like.
• 55:43
  Yeah, it makes it makes sense. You can only, you can only blame
• 55:46
  Jim Ryan for so long. He's been gone for what, 2 years
• 55:48
  now? Almost 3 right?
• 55:50
  Like you, you got to have a good PR move now, right?
• 55:56
  Like bring back shoe. Hey, bring back Give me VIB
• 56:01
  ribbon 2. Oh my God.
• 56:06
  No, I'm just kidding. I don't really care about VIB
• 56:08
  ribbon, but you know what I mean?
• 56:09
  Like I like Sony used to be doing such creative things like
• 56:14
  like concrete Genie and and. And it's the wrong.
• 56:17
  Puppeteer and. It's the wrong damn people in
• 56:20
  charge. Like like I, I always knew this
• 56:22
  out of out of all the out of all I have all them big three.
• 56:25
  Well, that's what the big four in there's put Sega in there out
• 56:28
  of all out of the BIG4. Sony has always, you know, been
• 56:32
  more beholden to their corporate overlords.
• 56:36
  I feel like I feel like Sony. I feel like Sony, then Sega,
• 56:41
  then Microsoft, then Nintendo, but now, like if we're looking
• 56:44
  at things, devil goes, like Nintendo is picking up the
• 56:47
  momentum for being like beholden to their corporate overlords.
• 56:50
  Because like some of the, some of the Nintendo decisions have
• 56:52
  been going on since since like the, I'm going to say like the
• 56:55
  last three years of the Switch all the way through to right
• 56:58
  now, Switch 2 is just like, what the fuck is going on?
• 57:03
  They are making money hand over fist is what they're doing.
• 57:08
  But I, I mean, look, I, I think maybe someone like Microsoft
• 57:14
  needs to be a little bit more hand holding, considering
• 57:17
  everything that's been going on there, but which we'll get to in
• 57:21
  a in a minute. But you know, and then you look
• 57:25
  at someone like Media Molecule, who hasn't made a real game
• 57:29
  since Little Big Planet 2. Are they even around?
• 57:33
  Are they even around? They did Dreams and now they
• 57:35
  they just announced a new project like a year ago.
• 57:38
  Oh, I hadn't heard about the new project.
• 57:39
  I knew dreams, the last thing they did, but I hadn't heard
• 57:41
  about a new project. Yeah.
• 57:43
  And then like your choices of PC games like Dreams would have
• 57:45
  killed on PC, Why didn't you port it there, you know?
• 57:48
  Or like, you know, it had this kind of flimsy PlayStation VR
• 57:52
  support, but it wasn't like you had to have like the Move
• 57:54
  controllers and stuff. But it's like, why didn't you
• 57:57
  port that to PC that that would have killed on PC?
• 58:00
  Or why didn't you find a way to let players monetize this game
• 58:04
  like Roblox does or something? Right?
• 58:05
  Like they had they have the right ideas and they are poorly
• 58:12
  executed at this point. Like, you know, I I think
• 58:16
  they're lucky that hell divers hit.
• 58:18
  And I think the only reason why it came to Xbox was because Xbox
• 58:23
  is the is the place to go where you want to play shooters.
• 58:26
  You're going to play, you're probably going to play shooters
• 58:29
  on Xbox if you're not playing on PC.
• 58:31
  And they have to make up money from the failure of Concorde and
• 58:36
  these other games that just have kind of fizzled out.
• 58:40
  So it just, it really boggles my mind what's going on over there
• 58:45
  at this point. And like now I heard on, I heard
• 58:48
  on a podcast, which I don't know how much truth there is behind
• 58:51
  this. So just a grain of salt.
• 58:54
  Obviously. Corey Bartolog over at Santa
• 58:57
  Monica's is directing a game that is quote part of a
• 59:04
  franchise but feels like a new IP.
• 59:06
  But it's already part of an existing IP.
• 59:09
  There were two things brought up on this podcast. 1 was the Fey
• 59:14
  spin off game of God of War. And then the other one was maybe
• 59:19
  they're doing the next Uncharted game with Cassie Drake because
• 59:23
  Corey Barlog likes to take franchises and reinvent them,
• 59:28
  right? Because he, I think a lot of
• 59:30
  people forget, but he directed the Tomb Raider reboot and
• 59:36
  obviously God of War, right? So and he.
• 59:40
  Didn't I would be down with that.
• 59:42
  I'd be down with that. Yeah, I mean, it's also could be
• 59:46
  a sad dad simulator, you know, old Nathan Drake with casting
• 59:50
  Drake. Here we go again.
• 59:52
  Probably Sam. I think the rumor though is that
• 59:54
  like Sam is going to be the the companion character this time
• 59:59
  around. Get Troy Baker back in the seat
• 1:00:02
  again. Yeah, So, man, I still can't
• 1:00:07
  believe they showed that off. And then like, nobody ever
• 1:00:10
  acknowledged it except for like a few people in that trailer.
• 1:00:14
  That had to be Uncharted, right? That had to be what it was,
• 1:00:17
  right? I don't know.
• 1:00:20
  Whatever. I don't know.
• 1:00:22
  No. What's I?
• 1:00:25
  Don't know what's up? What's up?
• 1:00:26
  Eddie? How how are you doing?
• 1:00:27
  I'll see you in the chat. Don't talk to him.
• 1:00:29
  I'm mad at him. Don't talk to him.
• 1:00:32
  Oh oh oh, the Bosses podcast will take a brief intermission
• 1:00:36
  while I get well, I get tea. I'm just kidding, Ed, but
• 1:00:44
  seriously, get back to work. Yeah, I don't know any any
• 1:00:50
  thoughts on how they should have maybe not closed Blue Point?
• 1:00:55
  Maybe tried to save this money somewhere else?
• 1:00:58
  Also I think it's worth noting that Blue Point is only 70
• 1:01:01
  people. So like, how much money are you
• 1:01:03
  really saving by closing the studio down?
• 1:01:05
  Yeah, not, not a lot. In it's not in Austin, TX, it's.
• 1:01:11
  Not even like, it's not even like they're they you use a lot
• 1:01:13
  of resources for what? For what they do.
• 1:01:16
  Yeah, it's like a lot of the foundation.
• 1:01:18
  Remasters are hot right now. Like, that's a big thing that
• 1:01:23
  Capcom and Konami have obviously proved that people want.
• 1:01:27
  So this is a gold. You could have given Blue Point
• 1:01:31
  Jack and Daxter. You could have given them Sly
• 1:01:33
  Cooper, but you could have had them revive so many of your
• 1:01:37
  series or brought people to your PlayStation.
• 1:01:41
  Or, I don't know, this God of War trilogy, they just announced
• 1:01:43
  that they already have a, you know, they were already making
• 1:01:46
  assets for Ragnarok and they were already working on this
• 1:01:49
  live service game. So like, they obviously know God
• 1:01:52
  of War at this point, you know, instead of wasting Santa Monica
• 1:01:57
  resources internally, you know, like, or like that Uncharted 1
• 1:02:03
  remake that's been rumoured for a while too, like.
• 1:02:08
  Come on, wait, do we want to? As much as I love the original
• 1:02:12
  Uncharted, Uncharted is the reason why I bought Uncharted is
• 1:02:14
  the reason why I bought APS three.
• 1:02:15
  I think everybody that knows me knows that's the reason why I
• 1:02:18
  bought APS 3 but. Yeah, I mean Uncharted.
• 1:02:21
  Uncharted Do we want a remake of Uncharted?
• 1:02:25
  We don't need a remake. Almost 20 years.
• 1:02:28
  It's been 20 years since the first one.
• 1:02:30
  I feel like, I feel like there's nothing they can do to to like
• 1:02:34
  enhance that game. Oh.
• 1:02:36
  My gosh, I feel like they could do a lot.
• 1:02:39
  I mean no. The the re, the collection was
• 1:02:43
  good. Like obviously if they remade
• 1:02:46
  this, it's it feels like it would just be another Last of Us
• 1:02:48
  remake where it's like, what's the point of doing this?
• 1:02:52
  Yeah, where it's like it's basically lukewarm with with
• 1:02:54
  like better visuals. I mean, I, I'm not saying it
• 1:02:59
  would be a the best decision, but if they want, you know, I
• 1:03:03
  mean the series, I mean, it's been 10 years since the last
• 1:03:06
  release. You know, like I feel like
• 1:03:10
  people, I feel like Uncharted is like, I don't know, I feel like
• 1:03:14
  they're on this trajectory to make Uncharted bigger because of
• 1:03:18
  the movie and obviously the sequels in development.
• 1:03:20
  And like, you know, the, the, you know, they ported the, what
• 1:03:26
  it was it for and lost legacy to PS-5.
• 1:03:30
  Like I feel like it was like on a trajectory, you know, like to
• 1:03:35
  and then they just, it just vanished.
• 1:03:40
  I don't know. I, I, yeah, I don't know.
• 1:03:43
  I, I feel like I thought the only thing I should be doing,
• 1:03:46
  like Uncharted is making new games, you know, I, I really
• 1:03:50
  feel that because I really feel like the Uncharted, at at least
• 1:03:53
  the original, the first three are.
• 1:03:56
  I feel like you play those games front to back, like, you know,
• 1:03:59
  it's the amazing story. It's like watching the three
• 1:04:01
  Indiana Jones movies back-to-back, you know?
• 1:04:05
  You know, even though technically Temple of Doom was a
• 1:04:07
  prequel, you know? Yes, it was I always I.
• 1:04:15
  But I think they need to I always watching they need to
• 1:04:18
  purple and and and last crusade. I always watch it like that,
• 1:04:22
  even though I know that the order of the well, the order of
• 1:04:25
  the storyline well. I yeah, watch them in release
• 1:04:27
  order, man. That's the that's the deal.
• 1:04:30
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't know, just make a
• 1:04:34
  new Uncharted game like don't, don't, don't fuck around making
• 1:04:37
  a remake of the first one because the first one in my
• 1:04:39
  opinion, the first one in my opinion was good, is not
• 1:04:42
  Uncharted 2, unfortunately, but the first one was, was a very
• 1:04:44
  good game, you know? The only the only way I would
• 1:04:48
  accept the remake of the first one is if it was being remade
• 1:04:52
  side by side with a new one. Kind of like what they're doing
• 1:04:55
  with Tomb Raider. Yeah, I'll be fine with it, but
• 1:04:58
  I want something new. Or like how these God of War or
• 1:05:01
  like how these God of War one through 3 remix are are are
• 1:05:04
  happening because we know we know they're cooking a God of
• 1:05:07
  War a a new God of War game right now.
• 1:05:09
  Yeah, man, I just, I don't know, man, when did, when did, when
• 1:05:18
  did this industry become so messed up?
• 1:05:20
  Because like obviously the weird stuff over at Microsoft
• 1:05:23
  happened, you know, as a it's today a couple weeks ago at this
• 1:05:27
  point, but like. It's.
• 1:05:29
  That seemed very. It's been swelling down and
• 1:05:31
  drain since COVID. COVID, like the the pandemic
• 1:05:34
  really hurt the console generation.
• 1:05:36
  It did. And if, and you know, the more
• 1:05:38
  and more I think about, you know, like hindsight, you know,
• 1:05:40
  is what it is, You know, the more I think about it, you know,
• 1:05:42
  like they should just they should just delay the console
• 1:05:45
  launches. They should have.
• 1:05:47
  They should delay the console launches at least.
• 1:05:49
  At least until supply shortage Shit, you know, like was kind of
• 1:05:53
  resolved. Well, so I mean that's the rumor
• 1:05:55
  now is like PlayStation is moving the PS6 out to 2029 or
• 1:06:00
  2030 instead of 2027 so. That's that's good.
• 1:06:03
  That's probably that's probably the best thing they can do.
• 1:06:06
  And you know, it also gives them time to pad the hey, if Nintendo
• 1:06:09
  could pad their their freaking their freaking switch, you know,
• 1:06:12
  until like that sucker basically waved the white flag.
• 1:06:15
  I think Sony can do this with the PlayStation 5.
• 1:06:18
  I just, I just feel like this generation, like like you said,
• 1:06:21
  obviously covet had a lot to do with it, but also like the
• 1:06:25
  generation just still feels new like it, it feels like they're
• 1:06:29
  they haven't taken full advantage of anything.
• 1:06:32
  It feels this generation, it feels like, it feels like I just
• 1:06:35
  took my PS-5 out the box. It really does.
• 1:06:37
  I mean, I literally. Didn't we've heard more games
• 1:06:40
  been cancelled then there's been new?
• 1:06:42
  Games like. At least.
• 1:06:44
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like, you know, I I
• 1:06:48
  know, I know people. I know people like to call me
• 1:06:52
  the Nintendo person, me and Ed, but like you look at the output
• 1:06:58
  of of Nintendo versus, you know, Sony versus Microsoft and it's
• 1:07:04
  like, well, Microsoft has a bunch of smaller games, but
• 1:07:07
  where are their big triple-A heavy hitters?
• 1:07:09
  Or, you know, Sony releases kind of like what one first slash
• 1:07:16
  second party game every half it feels like and then, you know,
• 1:07:21
  every six weeks Nintendo has something coming out, but people
• 1:07:24
  say Nintendo has no games and it's like, well, I don't know, I
• 1:07:28
  I feel like Nintendo kind of figured out the like how to
• 1:07:32
  navigate the road map of like it also probably helped that they
• 1:07:37
  had a generation where like they didn't sell anything.
• 1:07:40
  But you know, here's a re release, here's a new game,
• 1:07:45
  here's a smaller game, here's a big tent pole game.
• 1:07:48
  Here's, you know, here's a Mario game that we've probably been
• 1:07:51
  sitting on for a year and a half, right?
• 1:07:53
  Like. You know what?
• 1:07:55
  Now that you point that out, Nintendo does have pretty good
• 1:07:57
  cadence. They do.
• 1:07:59
  Every six weeks, it's literally every six weeks they have
• 1:08:01
  something. It just feels, it just feels
• 1:08:04
  like to the ACT, to the consumers that are actually
• 1:08:05
  waiting for something big, it just feels like nothing ever
• 1:08:08
  happens until the thing happens. Well, I feel like if it's not
• 1:08:11
  Mario or Zelda, like it's like Nintendo, it's not putting
• 1:08:14
  anything out, right? Like I feel like people who
• 1:08:17
  there are like quote, UN quote Nintendo fans who are like Mario
• 1:08:22
  and, and, or Zelda fans. And then there's like the true
• 1:08:26
  Nintendo fan who has to go buy everything that comes out, you
• 1:08:29
  know, and it wasn't even until recently where stuff like Fire
• 1:08:34
  Emblem started blowing up and, and you know, even Donkey Kong,
• 1:08:39
  I still like, I know it was a lot like a launch window game
• 1:08:42
  and everything, but I feel like it underperformed.
• 1:08:45
  I feel like Donkey Kong underperformed, you know, I
• 1:08:48
  think like the Nintendo Switch 2, even the Nintendo Switch 2
• 1:08:53
  editions of these games, It's like people forget.
• 1:08:55
  Like the Switch launch lineup was exactly the same.
• 1:09:00
  It launched with a Wii U game. It's biggest seller was a Wii U
• 1:09:04
  game. Like like I think what half of
• 1:09:07
  its top 20 were Wii U ports like the the Switch, The Switch
• 1:09:12
  launch year also had a lot of ports or like Switch editions of
• 1:09:17
  these Wii U games, but nobody bought a Wii U.
• 1:09:18
  So it didn't affect anybody, you know.
• 1:09:21
  You know what games could be an interesting one to watch?
• 1:09:25
  I think Pokémon Pokapia is going to be very interesting to watch.
• 1:09:30
  This might be the Animal Crossing for Switch 2.
• 1:09:34
  Yeah, I was thinking the same, like.
• 1:09:35
  The one that's going to convince, you know, the moms and
• 1:09:38
  the grand moms and like the very casual people to pick up a
• 1:09:43
  switch to. Yeah.
• 1:09:47
  I, I, I, I, I, I don't know. Given that it doesn't move the
• 1:09:50
  needle for me like I'll I'll, I'll defer to your guys's
• 1:09:53
  opinion on that. I've it.
• 1:09:55
  I, I, I just feel like these farming Sims are, are much
• 1:09:59
  bigger even than they were like five years ago, right?
• 1:10:02
  Like I feel like Animal Crossing really put in Stardew Valley
• 1:10:05
  also, right? Really put these games kind of
• 1:10:08
  on the map, so to speak. And they have a Pokémon themed 1
• 1:10:11
  is like, you know, with, with all these Pokémon doing
• 1:10:16
  different types of jobs for you based on their powers.
• 1:10:19
  Like, I feel like that's such a, that's such a, a, a novel idea
• 1:10:25
  for these, for these, yeah, for these games.
• 1:10:28
  And like, Pokémon's huge anyway. And if they update it
• 1:10:32
  frequently, you know, like, I feel like they could really do
• 1:10:35
  some interesting things with it. And yeah, Pat, I think you're
• 1:10:37
  right. I think this is going to be the
• 1:10:38
  one to watch. Watch its career with great
• 1:10:42
  interest. I know I'm picking it up when it
• 1:10:47
  launches tomorrow. Yeah, I, my, my kids have been
• 1:10:52
  really getting into Pokémon recently because, I mean, it's
• 1:10:54
  everywhere now, right? Because of the anniversary and
• 1:10:57
  you know, they are the YouTube videos they watch like my
• 1:11:00
  daughter watches these content creators open these blind bags
• 1:11:04
  and they did. They've been doing Pokémon ones
• 1:11:06
  recently. And it's like, just come on,
• 1:11:08
  come on, guys, you gotta stop. Are you still doing the are you
• 1:11:12
  still doing the Pokémon TCG like openings like with your kids?
• 1:11:15
  Are you still doing that? Yeah, not as often, but we still
• 1:11:20
  do it once in a while, especially when there's like a
• 1:11:22
  new update and like there's a what may a couple months ago at
• 1:11:26
  this point, there was like an EV Island pack expansion come out
• 1:11:30
  and it was just all EVs essentially.
• 1:11:33
  I was, I was, I was curious because when you, when you said
• 1:11:35
  that one night on on the podcast, I was like, that's one
• 1:11:38
  of the most wholesome things I've I've heard.
• 1:11:41
  Yeah, my daughter still likes to do it once in a while,
• 1:11:43
  especially if she's had like a like a rough day or something.
• 1:11:46
  She likes to like open them and get excited about what we open
• 1:11:50
  and stuff. My son, not so much.
• 1:11:52
  He's more of like a, I don't know, His favorite game right
• 1:11:56
  now is called Battle, where every night before we go to bed,
• 1:11:59
  he'd like, jumps on me and just, you know, takes out the rest of
• 1:12:02
  his energy and, you know. I feel like he's been playing
• 1:12:07
  that game for the last three years.
• 1:12:10
  I mean, he has off and on, but it's, it's it, he would call it
• 1:12:15
  battle and then he would like, you know, kind of like roll
• 1:12:17
  around or jump on me or whatever.
• 1:12:19
  And now he's like using his fists to like, you know, he, he
• 1:12:22
  does this thing with his mouth where he's like, like this.
• 1:12:26
  And then, you know, like the pain is coming.
• 1:12:28
  And so you just kind of like, you know, curl up in a ball and
• 1:12:31
  hope it doesn't hurt so bad. Dude, my son is getting so big.
• 1:12:36
  He's going to be 5 in like a month.
• 1:12:39
  It's like, Oh my gosh, Judy. I remember when I remember when
• 1:12:42
  that son of a gun was just was just being born.
• 1:12:45
  Yeah. God, how is it that how's that
• 1:12:47
  time flies? But for some strange reason, we,
• 1:12:50
  we, we, we have these things stuck in time, you know?
• 1:12:53
  Yeah, I don't know, man. It's, it's crazy.
• 1:12:57
  It's weird. Life's weird, man.
• 1:13:01
  My son is also like, I don't know, it's weird.
• 1:13:04
  My daughter is like more into games than my son is.
• 1:13:07
  My son plays the same three games all the time and he he'll
• 1:13:11
  play it for like an hour and then he'll want to go play with
• 1:13:12
  his toys like he's a toy kid, you know, or my daughter likes
• 1:13:16
  to sit down. I don't know, there's definitely
• 1:13:19
  nothing wrong with that. But you know, my daughter's more
• 1:13:21
  of like AI want to sit down and learn how to play this or I want
• 1:13:25
  to sit down and watch you play or, you know, whatever.
• 1:13:28
  You know, she was really wanting to get into Disney Dreamland
• 1:13:31
  Valley for a while, but that's like really complicated for her.
• 1:13:35
  So I don't know. I don't know why she started
• 1:13:38
  getting an Animal Crossing. She brought it up at one point a
• 1:13:42
  couple weeks ago somehow anyways.
• 1:13:47
  But yeah, I don't know, man. It's like, anyways, what were we
• 1:13:52
  talking about besides all this garbage feeling?
• 1:13:56
  Yeah, Pokémon. Yeah, And like, I don't know,
• 1:14:03
  man, it, it just feel feels like Nintendo kind of like figured it
• 1:14:06
  out after the Wii U, right. Like, you know, Ed and I used to
• 1:14:12
  say the Switch is just the the Wii U kind of realized we're
• 1:14:19
  like, oh, you can play it on the TV or in handheld mode, but they
• 1:14:22
  just put the console in the wrong part of the box.
• 1:14:27
  And so like now that this game, this thing is stronger and is
• 1:14:33
  kind of like powerful, they have access to a lot more, which
• 1:14:37
  gives them a little bit of breathing room for their
• 1:14:39
  franchises, right? Like, oh, we can play Final
• 1:14:41
  Fantasy in Resident Evil on this thing now in Cyberpunk and we
• 1:14:45
  can kind of spread out our releases more because we have
• 1:14:47
  that third party support. And Sony is kind of, you know,
• 1:14:52
  I'm just using PlayStation as an example, but they're just kind
• 1:14:55
  of like, I feel like they're lucky to be in the winning
• 1:14:59
  position essentially, because everybody's like, oh, I'm going
• 1:15:02
  to, you know, we're going to play, you know, NBA2K there
• 1:15:07
  because that's where our friends are.
• 1:15:08
  Or, you know, because I, I feel like a lot of people still don't
• 1:15:11
  know that like cross play exists or, you know, certain things
• 1:15:14
  like that exist that a lot of people still just go where their
• 1:15:17
  friends are playing, you know, Oh, my friend has a PlayStation,
• 1:15:19
  they're playing Madden or 2K and we'll just go over there and
• 1:15:23
  play it. Or they have exclusive skins or
• 1:15:26
  whatever, right? Or even like silence, they still
• 1:15:30
  have time exclusives, right? Like Silent Hill, the new Silent
• 1:15:32
  Hill is a time exclusive, right? So they have things like that.
• 1:15:38
  So it allows them to kind of make these mistakes that they're
• 1:15:43
  making without anybody really noticing, you know, and at least
• 1:15:47
  the general public. But I don't know, I mean,
• 1:15:50
  Wolverine was announced 4 years ago and it's just now coming out
• 1:15:53
  five years ago I think, right? So still looks good.
• 1:15:58
  So let. Let me ask you a question before
• 1:16:00
  we wrap this topic up because because I'm, I'm checking the
• 1:16:02
  chat and Ed said, Ed said maybe it was because Blue Point wasn't
• 1:16:05
  bringing in or could bring in the sales numbers like Naughty
• 1:16:08
  Dog, Insomniac or Santa Monica. I I, I wonder, I wonder about
• 1:16:13
  that statement because I mean, like, you know, technically,
• 1:16:15
  like Blue point was the remix studio.
• 1:16:18
  So, you know, remix, remix and remasters only work when the
• 1:16:23
  nostalgia is there. Look, This is why the legacy of
• 1:16:25
  Cain just did so well just recently, you know,
• 1:16:27
  proportionately Speaking of stuff like that, you know?
• 1:16:31
  Yeah, I would also say. The budgets weren't that big for
• 1:16:35
  Blue Point, so it'd be a lot easier for them to.
• 1:16:38
  To make the money. Yeah, the studio is like 1/3 the
• 1:16:42
  size. The budgets are smaller, you
• 1:16:44
  know, so they don't need to sell as many.
• 1:16:46
  They've already, they've already got assets, you know, from the
• 1:16:48
  original game because like every game, Well, I mean, unless
• 1:16:51
  you're doing something like as, as, you know, daunting as like
• 1:16:54
  the Dead Space remake was, you know, 'cause like they actually
• 1:16:56
  rebuilt everything from the ground up and, and they did so
• 1:17:00
  much for Dead Space remake, you know, like the entire, they
• 1:17:03
  basically mapped out the entire ship to now where everything
• 1:17:05
  connects like you can, you can literally walk from one spot to
• 1:17:08
  the other in the game, you know, which was not possible in the,
• 1:17:12
  in the original game. Yeah.
• 1:17:16
  So yeah, I mean it like I said, 70 people versus you look at
• 1:17:21
  Santa Monica and that's what 2, three, 350 people, you know, God
• 1:17:25
  of War probably cost them 200 and something $1,000,000 to make
• 1:17:30
  at least, you know, Blue Point probably spent 100 million maybe
• 1:17:38
  Max on the the Demon Souls remake and that was game sold a
• 1:17:43
  ton of units. So feel like that.
• 1:17:45
  One would have, I feel like there would have been less than
• 1:17:48
  100. Like there's very little voice
• 1:17:51
  acting in that game. Yeah.
• 1:17:53
  Well, you know, I mean, I mean, that could have been like a like
• 1:17:56
  maximum 100 million. You know, I mean, it probably
• 1:17:58
  could have been like 60 or 70 million.
• 1:18:00
  But then you turn around and look at Ghosts of Yote and they
• 1:18:03
  said they spent the same amount of, you know, relatively the
• 1:18:05
  same amount of money as Ghosts of Sushima.
• 1:18:07
  And Ghosts of Sushima's budget was 60 million.
• 1:18:11
  So like even with inflation, you're talking about what, 70,
• 1:18:14
  five, $78 million for Ghosts of Yote.
• 1:18:18
  And it's like how how these budgets, man, they're just
• 1:18:23
  getting so out of control and like, what are you?
• 1:18:27
  How's this happening? Yeah, something's being so.
• 1:18:30
  Frustrated. Something's being mismanaged for
• 1:18:32
  sure. And that's been, and I say that,
• 1:18:34
  I say that about all the companies right now, Microsoft,
• 1:18:37
  Nintendo and Sony something. Where are the producers?
• 1:18:41
  Yeah. Where are these producers at?
• 1:18:42
  And why aren't they, like, keeping people on track or like,
• 1:18:45
  you know, we're going to. I mean, let's talk about Xbox
• 1:18:48
  now. Like I mean Matt booty is part
• 1:18:51
  of was head of first party. You know, you're telling me
• 1:18:54
  fables taking nine years to make?
• 1:18:57
  I mean, I get it. It's a big game, but like, what
• 1:19:02
  do you like 9 years? Why?
• 1:19:04
  You know what's at that point? You know what this is a good
• 1:19:06
  this is good to segue into the the the whole Xbox like shake up
• 1:19:09
  because. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 1:19:11
  Because like. Because out of the out of the
• 1:19:14
  three names are involved, Matt Booty, Sarah Bond and and and
• 1:19:18
  Bill Spencer, Matt Booty is the most failingest one out of all
• 1:19:21
  three of them. I I'm quite aware of this.
• 1:19:24
  Josh and I had a good time talking about Matt Booty and
• 1:19:27
  Aaron Greenberg are the ones that survived this chaotic
• 1:19:30
  restructure. Like they're the two worst ones.
• 1:19:33
  How many times can Aaron Greenberg hold up, take a selfie
• 1:19:36
  at dude at the Halo thing. He took a selfie with a
• 1:19:39
  PlayStation controller. Like like I understand.
• 1:19:43
  I understand that Halo's coming to PlayStation, but like you're
• 1:19:47
  the head of marketing for Xbox. You should be like championing X
• 1:19:52
  Xbox and like, you know, I don't know how many more times he can
• 1:19:56
  like promote things you can't buy or I don't know, look, I'm
• 1:19:59
  sure he's a good dude, just like I'm sure Matt Booty's a good
• 1:20:02
  dude. But like it's like the fact that
• 1:20:06
  Matt Booty got promoted to chief creative officer blows my mind.
• 1:20:12
  Like it's it shattered my brain. I feel like I look, I understand
• 1:20:20
  Minecraft is a huge deal, right, because that's that's the side
• 1:20:22
  of the business he came from, right?
• 1:20:24
  Was the Minecraft deal. I understand that Minecraft has
• 1:20:30
  grown beyond what anybody probably thought it was when
• 1:20:34
  they when they when they first released it, right.
• 1:20:37
  But like the fact that he's championing like hi-fi rush like
• 1:20:46
  literally like hours before they close the studio or like.
• 1:20:50
  Studio. Or like, you know, some of these
• 1:20:55
  other things like what? Somebody saved me here.
• 1:21:02
  OK, OK. It's it's a perfect, it's a
• 1:21:05
  perfect technology of how Xbox is going.
• 1:21:08
  It's how you're going right now, yeah.
• 1:21:10
  I want to. I do want to say though.
• 1:21:12
  Pale, spinning. It's like, it's like, it's like
• 1:21:15
  they're, it's like they're falling, running upstairs
• 1:21:17
  basically. No, it's it's like they can't go
• 1:21:21
  a week without bad news or somebody else.
• 1:21:25
  This is bad news taking the limelight.
• 1:21:27
  Like Sony closes Blue Point on Thursday and they're like, and,
• 1:21:34
  and Matt Booty walks up to Herman Holtz to hold my beer and
• 1:21:36
  he goes and steps on 37 Rakes, Tom and Jerry style.
• 1:21:39
  Like, what are you doing? Oh.
• 1:21:44
  Man, OK, OK, OK. So here's the thing though, I, I
• 1:21:48
  want to say I want to be just this last thing real quick
• 1:21:51
  because I know we're going to talk a lot of negative about
• 1:21:54
  Xbox going on right now. I actually have some positive
• 1:21:57
  things to say about ASA Sharma the the new CEO.
• 1:22:02
  I've been doing a lot of like research on her the last week
• 1:22:07
  and 1/2 or so and listen to a lot of people within the Xbox
• 1:22:11
  realm. OK, but.
• 1:22:13
  I want to hear, I want to hear this because right now I'm just,
• 1:22:16
  yeah. I want to I want to get through
• 1:22:18
  the negatives first, but I do want to get through the
• 1:22:21
  negatives first. But yeah, Ron, go save me.
• 1:22:30
  OK, so out of all this stuff that's been going on with
• 1:22:34
  Microsoft, the one thing that infuriates me, as a matter of
• 1:22:37
  fact, I return to Twitter with this, the whole thing, Sarah
• 1:22:42
  Bond, I'm just like, there's something cataclysmically wrong,
• 1:22:48
  you know, because they are basically grooming her to take
• 1:22:51
  over Xbox after, after Phil Spencer retired or resigned or
• 1:22:54
  whatever and stuff like that. Phil Spencer resigns and she's
• 1:22:57
  out. And we don't, and all the
• 1:23:00
  people, we don't hear a statement, we don't get a
• 1:23:02
  statement from her, which means there's got to be a non, there's
• 1:23:04
  got to be NDA out there somewhere.
• 1:23:07
  They are definitely like censuring her for some strange
• 1:23:09
  reason. And no, it it's clear that she
• 1:23:12
  got let go. It's very clear.
• 1:23:14
  I mean, it could have been a mutual let go, but it was one of
• 1:23:17
  those you're out of this company one way or another.
• 1:23:20
  Yeah, but also like some of the stuff doesn't make sense because
• 1:23:23
  like, you know, like you, you know, like if, if, if, if that
• 1:23:26
  Verge article is supposed to be believed, which I don't fucking
• 1:23:29
  believe it, you know, like, you know, like she was, she was the,
• 1:23:33
  she was the pioneer of this is an Xbox.
• 1:23:35
  And I'm sorry, this is an Xbox sounding like some Phil, Phil
• 1:23:39
  Spencer shit because he was already trying to spend that
• 1:23:43
  when we when we got rid of the whole, when he was the one that
• 1:23:46
  pitched out like, oh, Xbox doesn't we don't need
• 1:23:48
  exclusives. Like, why do we need exclusives?
• 1:23:51
  You know? Nah, Nah, Nah.
• 1:23:53
  Something doesn't make sense, you know, and like I said, she
• 1:23:56
  was groomed to be their replacement for Phil Spencer.
• 1:24:00
  But we all we can all tell like Phil Spencer got ousted, you
• 1:24:03
  know, So why the hell they just like fire her or terminate her
• 1:24:07
  or whatever, you know, You know, and and you know, we don't even
• 1:24:13
  know she's been radio silence. So she probably got severance
• 1:24:16
  package, but because we can't find out a damn thing about
• 1:24:20
  what's going on with her. Plus, you know, like a female
• 1:24:25
  leadership at ACEO level, you know, I'm not even going, I'm
• 1:24:31
  not even going on the fact that it's a black woman in leading in
• 1:24:34
  electronics. I'm not even going on that just
• 1:24:36
  female leadership. Female leadership and CEO ship
• 1:24:40
  in the electronic sector in video gaming, you know.
• 1:24:44
  I I don't know if that one can stand though, because the CEO is
• 1:24:47
  now a female. That is true.
• 1:24:49
  That is, that is. True, it hires now.
• 1:24:51
  Yeah, that is true. That is true.
• 1:24:53
  But you already, you already had one, you know.
• 1:24:56
  Yeah. Also Microsoft CEO is also a
• 1:24:59
  person of color if you want to go that way.
• 1:25:02
  But yeah, yeah, I think the way the way it the way Sarah Bond
• 1:25:10
  was was like the way she exited seems very.
• 1:25:15
  It's sucks. It's, it's interesting cuz like
• 1:25:19
  you know, Phil's when Phil's statement or when Phil Spencer
• 1:25:23
  gave his statement, right? He was the only one that
• 1:25:25
  mentioned Sarah Bond in any capacity in his statement,
• 1:25:28
  right? Matt Booty didn't mention her
• 1:25:33
  when he was gave his promotional statement.
• 1:25:37
  Asha Sharma didn't give give anything.
• 1:25:40
  Satya Nadella didn't say anything.
• 1:25:42
  Right. It was all praise for Phil.
• 1:25:44
  Right, which is wrong. Which great, right?
• 1:25:47
  Like Phil's, Phil did a lot for the Xbox brand, right?
• 1:25:51
  More towards the front end of his tenure than the back end.
• 1:25:54
  But you know, I think he did a lot to a lot of good things for
• 1:25:59
  Xbox and we all thought that we were all anticipating Phil's
• 1:26:04
  retirement either at the end of the 25th anniversary celebration
• 1:26:08
  or at the end of this console life cycle.
• 1:26:11
  He was going to see the next box launch and then Sarah was going
• 1:26:13
  to take over, right? That's, I think that's how
• 1:26:16
  probably 99.9% of us all Xbox going.
• 1:26:21
  The fact that she wasn't mentioned in any of these
• 1:26:23
  statements at all was like insane in that in, you know,
• 1:26:29
  obviously that hit piece came out on her essentially.
• 1:26:32
  I'm glad, I'm glad you. I'm glad you said it.
• 1:26:34
  Because every time I turn around and say it's a hit piece people
• 1:26:36
  are like what the fuck are you talking about?
• 1:26:39
  Yeah, it's, it's it's pretty scathing that, you know,
• 1:26:42
  employees didn't like her. People left because of her.
• 1:26:46
  People hated the this, you know, this is an Xbox messaging type
• 1:26:51
  thing, which to be fair, I think a lot of us didn't really care
• 1:26:55
  for that messaging to say, hey, don't buy our box, you know?
• 1:26:58
  Yeah, but yeah, but yeah. But the person that we cannot
• 1:27:01
  hear from is the person they're landing that on.
• 1:27:04
  I don't believe that she. She did, she did give it.
• 1:27:06
  She did give a statement and she was at the exit party, but she
• 1:27:10
  was also the only one that didn't give a speech at the exit
• 1:27:13
  party. She was like in the back of the
• 1:27:15
  room. Apparently I, I, Jess Corden was
• 1:27:20
  talking about this on the Xbox Two podcast.
• 1:27:23
  So. Maybe she was as sick of their
• 1:27:25
  shit. I mean, wouldn't you be if you
• 1:27:28
  thought you were being, you know, kind of groomed for this
• 1:27:30
  position And then, you know, six months ago they bring or, you
• 1:27:33
  know, essentially, you know, according to, I don't know,
• 1:27:37
  Phil's statement, like he's been working with her for a few
• 1:27:40
  months and she's been there for, you know, a little bit over 2
• 1:27:43
  years with the core AI unit and. Like what?
• 1:27:47
  What burns me up about about this whole thing with Sarah Bond
• 1:27:50
  is like they, they, they threw her to the wolves last summer
• 1:27:55
  with, with that, with that nonsense.
• 1:27:57
  You know, they put her on stage and it was obvious that her
• 1:27:59
  hands were tied. She couldn't say a damn thing
• 1:28:02
  about what was going on last summer with their bullshit.
• 1:28:06
  Yeah. So I have a so I have a theory.
• 1:28:08
  I have a theory now. Like she wanted to she wanted to
• 1:28:12
  definitely correct the ship and stuff like that.
• 1:28:15
  But you know, you know, it's one of those those reverse
• 1:28:18
  situations of the squeaky wheel gets the grease.
• 1:28:20
  Yeah, the squeaky wheel in this, I guess in this place, like you
• 1:28:23
  go got replaced, you know, because I have a funny feeling
• 1:28:26
  that she was trying to like she was trying to air out like the
• 1:28:29
  stuff and say, hey, this is the stuff that we need to fix and
• 1:28:32
  this is the stuff that we need to hold, be held accountable for
• 1:28:34
  and PR spin or whatever was like, oh, no, no, no, no, just
• 1:28:38
  just keep quiet. It'll be all right.
• 1:28:40
  It'll be all right. And you know, like they're
• 1:28:41
  patting. They're patting on the back as
• 1:28:43
  they're walking her the fuck out the door.
• 1:28:46
  Yeah, I, I'm kind of of that vein as you Leron, where I feel
• 1:28:51
  like I feel like Sarah Bond was let me back up a little bit.
• 1:28:59
  I feel like, I feel like Phil Spencer specifically, he's been
• 1:29:04
  at Microsoft for almost 40 years, right?
• 1:29:06
  Like, yeah, 'cause he was like he knew.
• 1:29:08
  He knew he was about to retire. 90 higher, 90 higher, I can't
• 1:29:11
  remember. I, I feel like when he found out
• 1:29:14
  that the plan that he wanted to do with like, you know, he did,
• 1:29:17
  he did good of like convincing Satya to keep Xbox around,
• 1:29:20
  right? Like, you know, Satya is a cloud
• 1:29:25
  guy, right? He comes from the cloud space.
• 1:29:28
  Why did Xbox, why did Xbox stick around?
• 1:29:33
  Project X cloud, the cloud gaming initiative saved Xbox
• 1:29:37
  because Satya believed in the everything was moving to cloud.
• 1:29:41
  And so, you know, Phil convinced him that that's why Xbox should
• 1:29:45
  stick around there. He laid out like this kind of
• 1:29:47
  grand plan or whatever Sarah comes in kind of pitches play
• 1:29:51
  anywhere, right? And that kind of becomes more of
• 1:29:53
  a thing then, you know, I feel like once Phil realized that
• 1:30:00
  Sarah was probably going to take over, he kind of took a back
• 1:30:02
  seat a little bit to like making the major decisions.
• 1:30:07
  And he was more like, you know, there's that piece that came out
• 1:30:10
  said Phil helped integrate the Activision Blizzard stuff into
• 1:30:14
  the business, while Sarah kind of took over, you know, the
• 1:30:18
  front facing stuff, which probably took a big toll on him,
• 1:30:22
  you know, between the, the, the purchase, the trial, because you
• 1:30:27
  know, Phil, like, you know, Phil did not want to buy Activision
• 1:30:31
  Blizzard, right? Like I feel like he did not
• 1:30:34
  like. I I I felt that I.
• 1:30:36
  Felt you're looking at you're looking at around that time,
• 1:30:39
  companies that were being purchased or for sale.
• 1:30:41
  You look at Crystal Dynamics, Idos Montreal, IO Interactive,
• 1:30:46
  Bungie, you know all those studios would have fit within
• 1:30:51
  like the the the parameters of of, you know, the studios that
• 1:30:55
  Phil was buying at the time, right, like ninja theory and and
• 1:31:00
  compulsion and you know they kind of have that.
• 1:31:02
  Oh, these are single player experiences.
• 1:31:04
  This these would be good. You know, smaller games to fill
• 1:31:08
  game pass with right. You know, then you have your
• 1:31:11
  live service with with destiny on all platforms, whatever, you
• 1:31:18
  know, And, and then if, if Sarah was like key to getting the
• 1:31:22
  Activision Blizzard thing over the line and he had to sit there
• 1:31:25
  through the trials and kind of go through all that and
• 1:31:27
  integrate it into the business and figure out how Call of Duty
• 1:31:29
  would work in game pass since they promised first party would
• 1:31:32
  be in game pass. You know, that probably took a
• 1:31:35
  huge toll on him. And he would, you know, he said
• 1:31:38
  last year he was ready to retire, you know, and and, you
• 1:31:43
  know, I don't know how much of that is fluff just for the
• 1:31:45
  statement or, or what, But like, I feel like Sarah still had a
• 1:31:49
  lot of she's younger. She's way more ambitious.
• 1:31:52
  I feel like at this point in her career than than Phil is because
• 1:31:55
  he's reached the pinnacle. She wanted to do different
• 1:32:02
  things with the brand and and I feel like it wasn't fitting.
• 1:32:06
  And they let her know way later than they probably should have.
• 1:32:11
  But it looks like. Yeah.
• 1:32:13
  So I'm hoping. I'm hoping she lands on her
• 1:32:17
  feet. I'm hoping she lands on her feet
• 1:32:20
  and you know, like she, you know, like whatever she winds up
• 1:32:22
  doing is the biggest fuck you to like to like a big ass tech
• 1:32:27
  corporation. You know that that basically
• 1:32:29
  rules and dominates our lives. Like, I mean, if Microsoft
• 1:32:31
  doesn't rule and dominate our lives, Apple does, you know?
• 1:32:36
  Yeah, so I, I hope she, she'll land somewhere.
• 1:32:42
  She's, you know. We need to, we just, we just
• 1:32:47
  need to watch. We just need to watch.
• 1:32:49
  You know what? What happens with her?
• 1:32:50
  We I, I. I don't.
• 1:32:51
  I don't even know if it's going to be in games.
• 1:32:53
  It'll probably be in technology somewhere, but I don't know if
• 1:32:55
  it'll be in games honestly. I don't think it'll be in games
• 1:32:59
  either, I think, I think, I think whatever happened at
• 1:33:01
  Microsoft, that definitely left the the baddest taste in her
• 1:33:05
  mouth. Yeah.
• 1:33:09
  But, you know, now we have Asha Sharma, who met with Major
• 1:33:15
  Nelson this week. And, you know, she also gave a
• 1:33:19
  couple interviews, one with Windows Central that a lot of
• 1:33:22
  people thought was kind of a layup kind of interview.
• 1:33:25
  But don't you want to lay the groundwork with new leadership?
• 1:33:29
  If you are given 10 minutes, you don't want to throw, like, all
• 1:33:33
  these, you know, crazy questions at all at once.
• 1:33:36
  Like, you want to set up and build a relationship and then
• 1:33:39
  ask the questions in a way that makes sense, right?
• 1:33:41
  Like, yeah, that's, that's my opinion.
• 1:33:43
  I'm not a journalist, but that would be my opinion on that.
• 1:33:48
  But she did say a couple good things in her initial statement.
• 1:33:51
  She does not come from games, but she does come from areas of
• 1:33:58
  tech where she builds platforms, right?
• 1:34:01
  Like Instacart built that from essentially the ground up,
• 1:34:06
  right? Like nobody knew it.
• 1:34:08
  Instacart was before the pandemic, you know, after the
• 1:34:12
  pandemic, it's like synonymous with grocery delivery, right?
• 1:34:16
  You look at Meta and the Messenger app, right?
• 1:34:21
  Like it works across all of Meta's platforms now, right?
• 1:34:25
  Like that was that was her thing.
• 1:34:28
  She was very integral making that work across Instagram and
• 1:34:32
  WhatsApp and Facebook. And you know, Messenger works
• 1:34:36
  everywhere now. That was her the thing she did
• 1:34:39
  with core AI for Microsoft, a little less known, especially to
• 1:34:43
  gamers, because obviously AI is a dirty word for gamers, but you
• 1:34:49
  know, and she obviously did enough to show that she could
• 1:34:53
  potentially run a business unit of of Microsoft.
• 1:34:57
  So I think she was brought in to be the CEO or platform growth
• 1:35:04
  and less of a gamer because obviously she's she's come out
• 1:35:07
  and said she's not a gamer, which is fine, right?
• 1:35:09
  Like we don't need a gamer. I mean I.
• 1:35:12
  Appreciate the transparency I do.
• 1:35:14
  Yeah, I mean, Strauss, Strauss Spelnick, the CEO of of Take 2
• 1:35:18
  is notoriously not a gamer, but look how many franchises he runs
• 1:35:22
  that are billion dollar franchises, you know?
• 1:35:25
  And just to be, just to be clear for everybody who's listening
• 1:35:28
  right now, I, I don't have a problem.
• 1:35:31
  I don't have a problem with her at all.
• 1:35:32
  I don't, I don't, I don't even know.
• 1:35:34
  I even though I am even though I am like visibly seething about
• 1:35:37
  Sarah Bond, I don't have a problem with Asha.
• 1:35:41
  It's not her. Yeah, it's not.
• 1:35:43
  Yeah, it's not. I don't think it's her fault the
• 1:35:46
  way that things ended, right? She was brought in to be the new
• 1:35:49
  person. That doesn't mean she it was her
• 1:35:52
  fault, right? Like I think a lot of people are
• 1:35:53
  giving her grief for that aspect as well, but.
• 1:35:56
  Yeah, yeah, like like, you know, like this is the regime change.
• 1:36:00
  And you know what, I you know, you know, I I don't have a
• 1:36:04
  problem with her specifically, more my ires towards Nadella
• 1:36:08
  then to anybody and probably well, actually Matt Booty,
• 1:36:12
  because Matt Booty is like like ho, why is you here?
• 1:36:15
  You know. Yeah, dude.
• 1:36:19
  I can't sabotage the career of two other people ahead of me.
• 1:36:22
  Why are you now the one? And you know what?
• 1:36:26
  That could very well be it, too. He was like, he was like, yeah,
• 1:36:29
  if I get Phil and Sarah out the way, it's all me.
• 1:36:32
  I'm the CEO. And then, and then here comes
• 1:36:34
  Sharma and there's like what? If any, if I would have, if
• 1:36:39
  anybody from Xbox's first party leadership, I would have, I
• 1:36:43
  would have promoted that. The woman who's, I forget what
• 1:36:46
  her name is, but she's the CEO of Blizzard or the president,
• 1:36:49
  president of Blizzard and how she's turned Blizzard around the
• 1:36:52
  last couple years, right? Like everybody's happy now
• 1:36:55
  because Overwatch is back to Overwatch, right?
• 1:36:57
  Like Diablo is, you know, Diablo ING and World of Warcraft
• 1:37:02
  seemingly has. Yeah, Can you believe that they
• 1:37:07
  like they brought Diablo 2 back? Like I know they put an
• 1:37:11
  expansion out. I can't believe it.
• 1:37:14
  Like who's still playing Diablo 2?
• 1:37:15
  No offense, but like what 1? Is now the.
• 1:37:19
  Way the way you said that, the way you said that, Diablo's
• 1:37:22
  Diablo, that's like, that's like, that's like that's like,
• 1:37:24
  that's like, that's like all every dude that realizes they're
• 1:37:27
  hot, that they're in front of the mirror, like naked, just
• 1:37:30
  like shaking it. That's why it sounded like
• 1:37:33
  Diablo's Diablo. But I mean, my point is like, I
• 1:37:43
  feel like the the the I can't believe I'm forgetting her name
• 1:37:48
  right now. But like, I would have promoted
• 1:37:49
  her and put her in that where Matt Booty is and put the boot
• 1:37:54
  to Matt Booty, right? Like yeah, but.
• 1:37:59
  Joanna. Joanna.
• 1:38:00
  Fairies yes, thank you. But you know, I, I, I think she
• 1:38:07
  said a lot of great things, especially for Xbox.
• 1:38:10
  Again, actions more than words, right?
• 1:38:13
  Like our friend of show Lord Cognito said on Iron Lords and
• 1:38:17
  on on Xbox 2 when he was on that show, actions speak louder than
• 1:38:24
  words, but her words are good to kick things off.
• 1:38:29
  It's been a week and 1/2 right? You can't turn this ship around.
• 1:38:33
  But no, you know, she said. I'm gonna give her a fair
• 1:38:36
  chance. I am like, I mean, in all
• 1:38:38
  seriousness, I mean like the only way for Xbox to go is
• 1:38:41
  either up or straight to the floor.
• 1:38:44
  Well what about the rumor that the Co creator said that she's
• 1:38:47
  there to sunset the the division?
• 1:38:50
  See, I know people have their opinions on Shane Blackley in
• 1:38:55
  one way or another, right? But I feel like, I feel like if
• 1:38:59
  you're going to do that, you would have just either promoted
• 1:39:03
  Matt Booty or let Sarah Bond stay and finish out her plan to
• 1:39:08
  transition Microsoft into more of APC gaming entity.
• 1:39:11
  That and a publisher than a platform holder.
• 1:39:15
  I feel like the fact that she's younger, she's driven, she
• 1:39:19
  already has a plan laid out. And also the fact that she has
• 1:39:23
  given us more statements of clarity than the Xbox has in the
• 1:39:28
  last three years essentially on what she wants to do with the
• 1:39:32
  platform is like a big kind of like, no, we're going to invest
• 1:39:38
  in this. We brought in somebody young
• 1:39:39
  with fresh ideas. Let's see how this works.
• 1:39:46
  You know, I, I don't think she's going to, I don't think they
• 1:39:48
  brought her into sunset a platform, especially when she's
• 1:39:51
  all about platform growth is her whole thing.
• 1:39:58
  There are a couple things in her statement that I really liked
• 1:40:03
  specifically from an Xbox console perspective, that
• 1:40:06
  they're going to focus on Xbox and what made Xbox, you know?
• 1:40:13
  What it is starting with the console bringing back the
• 1:40:17
  renegade spirit that made, you know, kicked off the Xbox 25
• 1:40:22
  years ago. You know, I know a lot of that's
• 1:40:24
  just kind of like fluff statement, but also like it.
• 1:40:26
  I think that means a lot to the community.
• 1:40:28
  We're going to, you know, focus on the gamers who have invested
• 1:40:31
  in this platform for at least 25 years, you know, and and spent
• 1:40:35
  their hard earned money on it. We're not going to fill the the
• 1:40:41
  consoles with AI slop, which I'm sure Satya loved hearing that
• 1:40:47
  considering he called it a bicycle for the mind is what he
• 1:40:52
  called AI at one point, which I'm sure he's I'm sure he typed
• 1:40:56
  into AI. What is AI for?
• 1:40:58
  How do humans use AI? It's a bicycle for the mind.
• 1:41:01
  That sounds good. And you see, like we, we, we
• 1:41:03
  know, we know he's shitting bricks right now because like he
• 1:41:06
  needs AI to, to be successful and like, and like everything
• 1:41:11
  right now, all the tech announcers are saying we're
• 1:41:13
  looking at a bubble that that could burst next week, next
• 1:41:17
  month, a year from now. But they're, they're all in
• 1:41:20
  agreement. It's going to burst.
• 1:41:22
  Yeah. And you got you got to admit
• 1:41:24
  that the AII mean AI. It's definitely a useful tool,
• 1:41:28
  but the way people are using it, it is slop like they're people
• 1:41:34
  are purposely like making those AI generated like movies in five
• 1:41:38
  seconds that you know, based. You know what I'm talking about
• 1:41:43
  how people are just making garbage with this and that's
• 1:41:48
  what's drawing people's anger towards the AI is like, oh look,
• 1:41:52
  people think this is what's going to replace jobs.
• 1:41:56
  Well, it's. Not just, it's not just that a
• 1:41:59
  lot of that quote UN quote slop is out there is just wasting
• 1:42:03
  everybody's time. You know, it's either wasting a
• 1:42:06
  lot of people's time. It's wasting a lot of people's
• 1:42:07
  time in one of two ways. Like, you know, like you got the
• 1:42:09
  people who are so duped by it that you know, it's wasting
• 1:42:12
  their time, but then it's wasting everybody else's time.
• 1:42:15
  You know, for, for people who have to remind their parents,
• 1:42:17
  you know, you know, they're octogenarian parents that you
• 1:42:20
  know, like they're like, this is not, this is not real.
• 1:42:23
  Do not spend money on this. Not it's, it's, it's just a big,
• 1:42:27
  you know, and I and you know, I people, people can do what they
• 1:42:31
  need, what they want to do. Like a lot of times people are
• 1:42:34
  just playing around, experimenting, trying to see
• 1:42:35
  what it's what was going to do. But there's a lot of people that
• 1:42:38
  know, hey, there's gullible people out there.
• 1:42:39
  We can make money off of them and stuff like that.
• 1:42:41
  And then you know, like there's the whole other thing, you know,
• 1:42:44
  with AI, you know, where it's like it's, it's, it's killing
• 1:42:48
  our economy on a monetary level. I mean, even on a, Even on a.
• 1:42:55
  Oh, I wasn't even talking about climate.
• 1:42:56
  I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't talking about climate tonight
• 1:42:59
  because here we got we got way too much stuff going on in the
• 1:43:02
  world right now. Like I don't want to talk about
• 1:43:04
  climate, but I can definitely talk about economy because
• 1:43:06
  everybody, everybody is unable to save money right now because.
• 1:43:12
  Yeah, here's my thing. On AI, it's like I always there
• 1:43:19
  are two things I like to compare to, at least in different
• 1:43:24
  aspects. Like I I feel like when
• 1:43:27
  computers and computer animation started really showing its
• 1:43:31
  teeth, like animators started getting really scared for their
• 1:43:35
  jobs, right? The animation didn't go away.
• 1:43:41
  The knowledge and the tools you needed to use to animate
• 1:43:45
  changed. When Photoshop started coming
• 1:43:49
  around, a lot of traditional photographers thought that, you
• 1:43:54
  know, photography was going to go away.
• 1:43:58
  Photography didn't go away. The tools you use to, you know,
• 1:44:02
  make your pictures look better or, you know, touch things up,
• 1:44:07
  those tools change. And I feel like AI is just the
• 1:44:09
  next way, like at least the way that people see ChatGPT or
• 1:44:13
  Gemini or Clot or whatever. I feel like these tools are
• 1:44:20
  tools. They're tools to help, you know,
• 1:44:25
  help you be more efficient. They're not they're not going to
• 1:44:29
  take your jobs. They're going to change the way
• 1:44:31
  people do their jobs. You know, yes, some jobs will be
• 1:44:35
  eliminated, right? That's just how technology works
• 1:44:39
  though, right? Like there's no hand drawn
• 1:44:41
  animators anymore, right? But people still know how to
• 1:44:44
  draw. You know, it's not like that's
• 1:44:46
  going away, but professionally, the tools are going to change.
• 1:44:50
  And so, you know, I, I appreciate that getting it back
• 1:44:58
  to the Xbox stuff where Matt Booty and Asha Sharma came out
• 1:45:04
  and said we're not forcing our studios to use AI.
• 1:45:08
  They can use the tools as they need.
• 1:45:10
  You know, they, they can use it to make the games that they want
• 1:45:14
  to make. And you know, again, could be
• 1:45:17
  fluff, depends on what Satya thinks.
• 1:45:20
  But back to her statement. I feel like she said a lot of
• 1:45:23
  good things that are promising if they follow through.
• 1:45:28
  Again, the actions you'd speak, but here's.
• 1:45:32
  One thing I will say to all the people who were like pissed off
• 1:45:35
  at her statement, like if you use a little bit of critical
• 1:45:37
  thinking, you would see that, you know, like she's not being
• 1:45:42
  shilly. You would see that, you know,
• 1:45:45
  like, you know, like I can't, I can't speak to how much she
• 1:45:49
  actually cares about things. But I can say that, you know,
• 1:45:51
  like if you, if you actually read the statement, take the
• 1:45:55
  time, absorb, absorb the words that were said and everything,
• 1:45:58
  you will understand that, you know, like she has some type of
• 1:46:01
  passion there. Yeah, but I really think.
• 1:46:06
  But then again, we can also say this when Sarah Bond made her
• 1:46:09
  like, you know, her first speech, you know, you know, her
• 1:46:12
  first two, her first, like, like presser or whatever, you know?
• 1:46:16
  Yeah, I think, I don't know, I, I, I feel like she could bring a
• 1:46:22
  lot of fresh ideas to the brand if they let her do what she can.
• 1:46:27
  Again, I don't think that her not being a gamer is a big deal
• 1:46:30
  because like, you know, like I said, look at look at 2K,
• 1:46:35
  Strauss Zelnick, 2K is one of the biggest brands in gaming and
• 1:46:39
  he doesn't play games at all, but he understands how games
• 1:46:42
  work and monetization works and how platforms work, right?
• 1:46:47
  And so I think you can kind of apply that to her way of
• 1:46:53
  thinking with this, right? And she's looking at growing
• 1:46:57
  Xbox. So we'll see.
• 1:47:00
  I'm interested, I'm intrigued. So all right, we only got a few
• 1:47:09
  minutes left here. So why don't we get into Attaboy
• 1:47:13
  and get it together? Pat, what is?
• 1:47:17
  Your attaboy this week man. You know what I will say?
• 1:47:26
  Since it's been a month, I will say attaboy to Konami.
• 1:47:32
  You know the revival that they had for the state of play.
• 1:47:36
  Like I'm proud of them. Like I I lost a lot of faith
• 1:47:41
  when they decided to just go straight to pachinko and stop
• 1:47:44
  making games. But it looks like they are
• 1:47:48
  sincere. They may not be making the games
• 1:47:51
  themselves anymore, it seems like, which is fine.
• 1:47:54
  You know, they're they're letting other studios take on
• 1:47:57
  these IPS that were beloved to me growing up.
• 1:48:01
  And like, we're expanding in them.
• 1:48:03
  I'd never thought we'd get another Castlevania in my
• 1:48:05
  lifetime, to be perfectly honest with you.
• 1:48:08
  And here we are. We're getting another
• 1:48:10
  Castlevania game. A good.
• 1:48:13
  So yeah, great, good studio. Yep.
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  Keep. Going sorry I didn't.
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  I guess, you know, like get it together would be like the two
• 1:48:32
  companies that we talked about. To be perfectly honest,
• 1:48:35
  Microsoft and Sony just need to get it together.
• 1:48:42
  Yep, I agree Loron. This this added boy goes to
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  Capcom. Looks like Capcom is going to
• 1:48:52
  have a wonderful like like like closeout to their winter season
• 1:48:57
  and probably a nice kick ass like start to their spring.
• 1:49:00
  You know, first of all, thank you Capcom for fixing Monster
• 1:49:05
  Hunter Wilds on the PC. Thank you.
• 1:49:07
  There's still work that needs to be done on it, but thank you.
• 1:49:09
  The game is now playable. I don't have to worry about
• 1:49:11
  frame gin anymore. I don't have to worry about
• 1:49:13
  little crazy little nonsense like you know, that basically
• 1:49:17
  feels like the game is broken. Thank you for that.
• 1:49:20
  Congratulations on the wonderful launch for Resident Evil 9.
• 1:49:24
  You know, like yes, yes, you guys are doing well.
• 1:49:27
  We've got another Monster Hunter game coming out real soon.
• 1:49:30
  You guys doing all right. The pragmatic demo.
• 1:49:33
  I messed around with it for like a split second but didn't have
• 1:49:35
  enough time to dedicate real time to actually playing it.
• 1:49:38
  But the game looked impressive from what I played.
• 1:49:40
  Attaboy Capcom, you know, I can't say much else about that.
• 1:49:45
  You know, I'm going to go a slightly different route this
• 1:49:50
  time. My get it together is going to
• 1:49:53
  be for the gaming community as a whole.
• 1:49:59
  We've had we've had some we've had some really good showcases
• 1:50:03
  lately. And like, it is, it is, it is
• 1:50:06
  brain boggling how everybody has a complaint about something for
• 1:50:12
  every one of these shows. Sony had the tightest state of
• 1:50:14
  play in like 3 years. You know, recently people had
• 1:50:18
  problems. No, I wouldn't say ever, but
• 1:50:23
  people have problems. People have problems with that.
• 1:50:27
  Like, you know, like the OK, the producer direct for Nintendo
• 1:50:31
  left a lot to be desired, but Nintendo's last, the last direct
• 1:50:35
  before that was pretty stellar. And people were just who just
• 1:50:39
  just, I don't know, like, I don't even know what to say
• 1:50:42
  about that. You know, even the Microsoft
• 1:50:45
  developer direct was not bad. You know, if anything, if
• 1:50:49
  anything, I would say the, the, the worst showing for for for
• 1:50:53
  this year as far as like stuff like that goes is the game
• 1:50:56
  awards. Because the game awards like,
• 1:50:58
  like put, what's more, what's the game?
• 1:51:00
  What's the game? Highgard, Thank you.
• 1:51:03
  Put Highgard out there and Highgard just announced today
• 1:51:08
  that they're releasing one more patch one more patch is probably
• 1:51:12
  going to be available to gamers for 8 or 9 days and then the
• 1:51:15
  game is gone. You know, and and I and just for
• 1:51:19
  just so people know, high guard, the reason why high guard it was
• 1:51:24
  even showcased at the Game awards is because Jeff Keeley
• 1:51:28
  got a boner for that game when he saw it, when he saw some of
• 1:51:32
  the development and he basically pushed these guys to actually
• 1:51:35
  put it onto the show. And where did it land in the
• 1:51:38
  show? It landed in the coveted spot of
• 1:51:40
  being the close out game of the show.
• 1:51:41
  And we we kind of saw in real time, you know, like what
• 1:51:45
  happened that night, You know, we saw that, you know, and then,
• 1:51:49
  you know, it's come to find out that, you know, like the
• 1:51:51
  developers was like this isn't ready, like we're not ready to
• 1:51:54
  unveil this and definitely don't unveil this.
• 1:51:57
  Like it's like it's the end all be all of gaming and stuff like
• 1:52:00
  that, you know? So yeah, you know, so I.
• 1:52:04
  Think that spot was bought when Now that we've gotten more
• 1:52:08
  information, who actually funded that game?
• 1:52:11
  Who funded it? True.
• 1:52:12
  Wait, who funded? The game and.
• 1:52:14
  Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:52:14
  That's the one that funded the game so well.
• 1:52:17
  It was more likely the the spot was bought than Jeff actually
• 1:52:21
  promoting. It so so basically Jeff wanted
• 1:52:23
  it in the show and they were like, yeah, put it in since I
• 1:52:26
  was like, here's here's money, put it here.
• 1:52:29
  Probably. Probably column A, column B,
• 1:52:32
  little little bit of both. OK, OK, that's that's that's my
• 1:52:35
  run for it. So Atta boy, Atta boy, Capcom
• 1:52:38
  get together gaming community and Jeff Keeley and $0.10 and
• 1:52:42
  $0.10, everybody gets a car tonight.
• 1:52:48
  You get a car, you get a car. Yeah.
• 1:52:51
  Everybody gets 1:00 tonight. So I'm going to say Attaboy
• 1:53:01
  Marvel for announcing that awesome collection of retro
• 1:53:08
  Marvel games including the X-Men arcade game that is 6 player
• 1:53:12
  online. They also are including the
• 1:53:17
  Spider Man Maximum Carnage game there's and Captain America and
• 1:53:22
  The Avengers arcade game. So there's like 6 games on this
• 1:53:25
  collection. I also think that they just
• 1:53:31
  updated Marvel, the cosmic invasion game and put new
• 1:53:34
  costumes in it and they're going to announce DLC soon I've been
• 1:53:39
  hearing, so that's cool. I, I just think that they've
• 1:53:41
  been doing a lot of, you know, Disney in general kind of with
• 1:53:45
  their classic games collections, putting them out and updating
• 1:53:49
  them and everything. Like Disney just updated the
• 1:53:53
  Disney Afternoon collection with 2 new games or two old new games
• 1:53:59
  when they release it on Switch. So that's cool.
• 1:54:03
  So yeah, that that's my that's my attaboy that I'm, I'm really
• 1:54:07
  excited for the X-Men arcade game, man.
• 1:54:09
  I love that game so much. It's a good one.
• 1:54:12
  Yeah. So let's see.
• 1:54:16
  I mean might, might get it together, man.
• 1:54:18
  There. There's a lot to get it
• 1:54:20
  together, man, the whole obviously everything we just
• 1:54:24
  talked about tonight, but like I want to say publishers and
• 1:54:33
  producers at these different developers need to get it
• 1:54:36
  together and not all of them obviously.
• 1:54:38
  Are there some really good ones? I, I think, you know, Atari is
• 1:54:42
  doing a great job at, at finding things.
• 1:54:45
  I think like Pat said, Konami is doing a great job of finding
• 1:54:48
  studios. But man, like the fact that like
• 1:54:51
  Fable's taking nine years or, you know, some of these games
• 1:54:55
  are taking 789 years to make it 300, four, $100 million.
• 1:55:01
  And what are you? What are you doing?
• 1:55:04
  Games are supposed to be fun and like, and like, you know, are
• 1:55:09
  these artistic, interesting things that we that we love and
• 1:55:14
  enjoy. And the fact that we, I feel
• 1:55:16
  like we come on here every week and just kind of complain about
• 1:55:19
  something bad, something else bad that happened or something.
• 1:55:22
  And it's like, come on, guys like.
• 1:55:25
  Trust me, we don't want to complain about this.
• 1:55:26
  Shit, no, I want to come on here and say like, yeah, I'm I'm
• 1:55:29
  excited because like we were playing awesome games that are
• 1:55:33
  in and there's great games released every week, you know,
• 1:55:36
  and it's like, man. Yeah, like, yeah, like I feel
• 1:55:41
  like it's been a while since we've come on the show and be
• 1:55:43
  like, we're fired the fuck up. Yeah, So I don't know man, it's
• 1:55:48
  just been, it's been hard. It's been hard to pay attention
• 1:55:53
  to the games industry the last three to six months in
• 1:55:57
  particular. So I don't know, maybe that's
• 1:56:00
  why I haven't been paying attention to it, to be honest.
• 1:56:02
  But anyways, yeah oh I had another get it together also,
• 1:56:11
  but I'll save that for the next time because Bungie delayed
• 1:56:15
  their in game update for Destiny.
• 1:56:17
  Not even a new expansion or new season or anything, just to the
• 1:56:19
  update by three months. So Yikes.
• 1:56:26
  Anyways, the beginning of three months.
• 1:56:29
  It's time for us to get out of here.
• 1:56:30
  I don't know how that transitions.
• 1:56:32
  Three months. That's how it's going to work.
• 1:56:35
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• 1:56:38
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• 1:56:40
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• 1:56:48
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• 1:56:50
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• 1:56:52
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• 1:56:55
  Yes, ma'am. This this month is going to be
• 1:56:59
  busy for travel. It's it's going to be fun, but I
• 1:57:03
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• 1:57:06
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• 1:57:10
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• 1:57:16
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