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The Bolt Report | 11 November · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: Is the Gold Report.
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  Speaker 2: Today, the sacking of GoF Whitlam. I mean, seriously, I'm
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  Speaker 2: offended that this date has been so completely hijacked by
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  Speaker 2: labor and the haters, by prim Anthony and Albanezi in
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  Speaker 2: a disgraceful speech last night, even the Governor General av
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  Speaker 2: An Easy's mate putting a or in November eleven is
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  Speaker 2: when we should actually remember the Australians who died in
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  Speaker 2: World War I. So many small towns of memorials to
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  Speaker 2: their locals who died in that horror, laid down their
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  Speaker 2: lives for Australia. Fifteen hundred First World War memorials are
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  Speaker 2: around this country, showing what a bloody harvest that war
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  Speaker 2: took of our young sixty thousand dead, which worked out
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  Speaker 2: then to one in every eighty Australians dying fighting in
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  Speaker 2: Europe or in the Middle East, in Gallipoli other battlefields.
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  Speaker 1: How many young.
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  Speaker 2: Australians today would risk their lives for this country. Some
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  Speaker 2: surveys say only one in three might be prepared the
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  Speaker 2: country that now seems to despise or neglect what suit
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  Speaker 2: should unite us, which is why we do need remembrance.
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  Speaker 2: Stay Yet today this day has been absolutely dominated instead
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  Speaker 2: by outrage still at the sacking of Gough Whitlam and
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  Speaker 2: his Labor government on this day fifty years ago, ninety
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  Speaker 2: seventy five, when in fact what happened then can be
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  Speaker 2: summed up in just one sentence. A dangerously incompetent and
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  Speaker 2: lawless Labor government was sacked when it ignored all warnings
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  Speaker 2: to obey our constitution as it tried and said to
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  Speaker 2: run Australia without having the money which elected senators had
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  Speaker 2: to approve and relieve. Voters then endorsed this dismissal by
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  Speaker 2: the Governor General by giving Labor it's worse hiding in
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  Speaker 2: forty four years the end. But this is how the
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister described it all in a furious speech last
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  Speaker 2: note after announcing it'd erect another statue with your money
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  Speaker 2: to his hero, Saint Goff of Whitlam, a prime minister
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  Speaker 2: destroyed by evil Conservatives in cohootswith Governor General Sir John Kerr.
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  Speaker 3: Make no mistake. November the eleventh, nineteen seventy five was
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  Speaker 3: not a constitutional crisis. It was a partisan political ambush.
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  Speaker 3: The dismissal was a calculated plot hatched by Conservative forces
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  Speaker 3: which sacrificed conventions and institutions in the pursuit of power.
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  Speaker 2: God spare us, I mean some facts. Whitlam led a
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  Speaker 2: dangerously incompetent, dishonest and arguably corrupt government and the last
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  Speaker 2: straw for the opposition was yet another scandal turned out.
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  Speaker 2: This time the government had lied and still had some
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  Speaker 2: shady Pakistani banker secretly trying to raise a six billion
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  Speaker 2: dollar loan God knows what they'd be worth now for
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  Speaker 2: the government, and raising it from even shady Middle Eastern sources, and.
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  Speaker 1: All without legal authority. So bang.
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  Speaker 2: Then Opposition leader Malcolm Fraser said enough. The Coalition would
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  Speaker 2: refuse to approve the funding the government needed to run things,
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  Speaker 2: the funding for wages and even pensions, unless Prome Minister
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  Speaker 2: Whitlam called another election. Well, Whitlam refused, and he ignored
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  Speaker 2: the warnings that he could be sacked for that by
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  Speaker 2: Governor General Sir John Kerr as he tried to govern
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  Speaker 2: without the money. And this went on for a month
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  Speaker 2: until Who's in fact a labor man appointed by Whitnam himself,
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  Speaker 2: said enough. He sacked whit them and appointed Fraser caretaker
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister on a promise to pass the money bills immediately,
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  Speaker 2: and elections were also called immediately, and for everyone howling,
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  Speaker 2: oh my goodness, democracy is almost destroyed on that day.
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  Speaker 2: What nonsense the public god, it's say, and it smashed
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  Speaker 2: labor at the election endorsed that decision to get rid
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  Speaker 2: of it, and even repeated the dose in the two
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  Speaker 2: elections after that. They were glad to have stability again.
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  Speaker 4: Good depend on market, depend on Markel prison.
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  Speaker 2: But along now comes Sam Mouston, Albaneze's handpicked governor General
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  Speaker 2: and friend to say, whoa She'd never have sacked Whitlam
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  Speaker 2: the way Sir John Kerr did without giving him a warning, saying,
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  Speaker 2: oh no, I don't believe a governor general should ever
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  Speaker 2: in the business of surprising a prime minister.
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  Speaker 5: The Prime minister had no notice that it was coming.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, does mustin really not understand that Whitlam
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  Speaker 2: was a man who couldn't be warned. Is such a
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  Speaker 2: loose cannon? Now her own mate knows exactly why Sir
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  Speaker 2: John Kerr didn't warn Whitlam, even if his hate spinning
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  Speaker 2: speech last night he dismissed Kerr has just been a paranoid,
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  Speaker 2: a cat's poor of the evil Conservatives.
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  Speaker 3: The opposition had preyed upon John Kerr's desire to be
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  Speaker 3: at the center of events, and they had cultivated his paranoia,
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  Speaker 3: his fear that Whitlam was planning to replace him.
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  Speaker 2: But Kerr, yes, he did think that if Whitlam knew
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  Speaker 2: that Kerr sack Hi would get kursacked first by the Queen,
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  Speaker 2: adding to the chaos and dragging the Queen into a
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  Speaker 2: massive constitutional crisis. But forget Albaneze sneers and sneers about this.
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  Speaker 2: It was not paranhoid at all to think that Whitlam
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  Speaker 2: had in fact himself told Kerr weeks before that he
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  Speaker 2: might indeed do exactly that, saying it could be a
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  Speaker 2: question of whether I get to the queen first for
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  Speaker 2: your recall, or whether you get in first with my
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  Speaker 2: Dismissal noticed oh I was joking, but had the reason
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  Speaker 2: to think he was not. In fact, As he was
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  Speaker 2: sacking Whitlam, William said I must get in touch with
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  Speaker 2: the palace at once to get cursacked. And indeed Whitlam
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  Speaker 2: led such a pack of cowboys, which people seem to
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  Speaker 2: forget that one of his junior ministers, later Prime Minister
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  Speaker 2: Paul Keating, both to this day that even told Whitlam
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  Speaker 2: to have that cur arrested.
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  Speaker 5: My proposition was that that God should ask when to
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  Speaker 5: accept his advice about the appointment of the new governor General.
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  Speaker 5: And in the event that Kerr resisted, I said to
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  Speaker 5: godf I thought he should be put under police arrest.
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  Speaker 2: That's what Kerr was dealing with, seeming lunatics capable of
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  Speaker 2: any outrage. And in the end democracy bossn't destroyed the
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  Speaker 2: public voter and today still votes and Labour still rants
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  Speaker 2: and raves about getting its come up as fifty years ago.
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  Speaker 2: I don't forget the hypocrisy in doing that. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: blocking those money bills is exactly what Whitnam himself tried
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  Speaker 2: to do to the Liberals when he was opposition leader
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  Speaker 2: scores of times, even saying once that if he didn't
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  Speaker 2: manage to block one of those bills in the Senate,
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  Speaker 2: the Liberal government would have to quit, which was exactly
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  Speaker 2: cursed point.
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  Speaker 1: What hypocrites.
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  Speaker 2: But I have to say there is one thing about
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  Speaker 2: the dismissal and what happened in the years that followed
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  Speaker 2: that did stick in my crawl, that made me politically
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  Speaker 2: wake up.
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  Speaker 1: It was the cruelty of the left and of the.
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  Speaker 2: Media their savagery towards Sir John Kerr for doing his
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  Speaker 2: duty and leaving Australians decide in an election if Whitnam
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  Speaker 2: should stay or go.
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  Speaker 1: The abuse of that man.
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  Speaker 2: The very personal campaign of destruction that was started instantly,
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  Speaker 2: led by Whitlam himself on hearing himself being formally dismissed.
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  Speaker 6: Well, my way say God saved the Queen, because nothing
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  Speaker 6: will say with the Governor General.
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  Speaker 2: And from that moment Kerr was vilified, ostracized, publicly, heckled, mocked.
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  Speaker 2: He privately noted in writings that were found after his death,
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  Speaker 2: other people's sins were hitped upon my head. It was
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  Speaker 2: as though through villain find one individual, all others except
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  Speaker 2: the scapegoat, could be cleansed of their responsibility for that
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  Speaker 2: great national crisis. I was a scapegoat, the sacrificial animal,
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  Speaker 2: and it seemed to drive Kurd to drink all this pressure,
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  Speaker 2: and it drove him to this disastrous moment of the
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  Speaker 2: Melbourne Cup, where he betrayed just how much he was
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  Speaker 2: hurt and how much he drunk.
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  Speaker 7: Mister clemen, gentleman, any little noises that you may happen
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  Speaker 7: to hear.
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  Speaker 8: Are only stacked.
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  Speaker 7: It's just something wrong with the system. I want you
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  Speaker 7: to understand, and I know that you will, that the
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  Speaker 7: minor noises do not destroy the marvelous occasion today is
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  Speaker 7: for me and for my wife.
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  Speaker 1: But it was over for Kerr.
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  Speaker 2: He was forced out earliest governor general and made so
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  Speaker 2: miserable that he hit for years in England. And when
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  Speaker 2: he died back in Australia's funerals kept private, virtually secret
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  Speaker 2: for fear of more cruelty. What shameful, shameful treatment of
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  Speaker 2: this man. So November the eleventh pray that for the
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  Speaker 2: years to come, this day will be remembered for one
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  Speaker 2: thing only, not the fury of labor, but the sacrifice
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  Speaker 2: of so many young Australians in war, so much more worthy.
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  Speaker 2: So how appropriate that on this Armistice Day that the
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  Speaker 2: person I'm talking to about the dismissal is both a soldier,
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  Speaker 2: a retired lieutenant colonel who served in the Vietnam War,
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  Speaker 2: and the author of this book on the dismissal Villain
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  Speaker 2: or Victim, A Defense of Sir John Kerr and the
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  Speaker 2: Reserve Powers, is Peter O'Brien, and he joins me. Now, Peter,
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  Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time. Anthony Albinizi last
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  Speaker 2: night called Sir John Kerr a man the Liberals exploited
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  Speaker 2: by playing on his paranoia and love of the spotlight.
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  Speaker 2: Former Labor Minister Paul Keating even says Kerr should have
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  Speaker 2: been arrested.
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  Speaker 9: What's your response, Well, my response to Keating's assertion is
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  Speaker 9: scorned because Sir John Kerr did nothing wrong, nothing illegal,
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  Speaker 9: as even his most inveterate critic Paul Kelly has conceded.
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  Speaker 9: As Paul Kelly says that the reserve power to withdraw
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  Speaker 9: the commission of a Prime Minister exists, and he also
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  Speaker 9: said that no Governor General could have accepted Whitlam's advice
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  Speaker 9: for a half Senate election on the eleventh of November.
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  Speaker 9: So there was nothing illegal that Sir John Kerr did,
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  Speaker 9: and mister Keating's surgeon is just nonsense.
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  Speaker 2: And of course the half Senate election would have been
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  Speaker 2: unlikely to change the numbers in the Senate and the
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  Speaker 2: new senators would not have taken their seats in any
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  Speaker 2: event until I think the July you know, six seven,
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  Speaker 2: eight months later, you know, the crisis would have rolled on.
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  Speaker 2: So that was just a non starter. Now in your book,
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  Speaker 2: you go through a lot of these issues in wonderful detail.
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  Speaker 2: The hatred towards Sir John Kerr led by GoF Whitlam,
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  Speaker 2: fed still fifty years later by Alban Easy and Paul Keating.
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  Speaker 2: How much did it affect him at the time.
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  Speaker 9: Well, I believe that he was Obviously he could not
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  Speaker 9: have been unscarred, but it was the vitriol and the
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  Speaker 9: invective that was heaped upon him that had the effect.
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  Speaker 9: There's now a narrative emerging, particularly in Troy Bramston's new book,
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  Speaker 9: that Sir John Kerr was tortured by his decision, and
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  Speaker 9: the impression that you're getting is that he really ultimately
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  Speaker 9: believed that he made the wrong decision. I've read I've
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  Speaker 9: read his book of Course, Matters for Judgment, and nothing
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  Speaker 9: in that book suggests that he ever believed that he
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  Speaker 9: made the wrong decision, but that everything he did he
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  Speaker 9: had a justification for. And you know, he certainly he
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  Speaker 9: certainly suffered personally as anybody would to have the amount
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  Speaker 9: of vitriol thrown on you that he had, But it
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  Speaker 9: was not to do with the fact that he ever
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  Speaker 9: regretted the morality or the practicality or the legality of
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  Speaker 9: his decision.
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  Speaker 2: I think a lot of the critics of what he
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  Speaker 2: did forget just how out of control that Whitlam government was.
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  Speaker 1: It was just astonishing.
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  Speaker 2: The shady deals, the sex scandals, all sorts of things.
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  Speaker 2: A plus, of course, massive inflation seventeen plus percent.
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  Speaker 1: It was just a nightmare.
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  Speaker 2: But Peter, it's one last thing I want to ask you,
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  Speaker 2: as a former soldier.
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  Speaker 1: It might be a little but let me do it anyway.
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  Speaker 2: I was struck today by the racial division, even at
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  Speaker 2: the Remembrance Day service in Canberra, which was attended by
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  Speaker 2: the Prime Minister, the division of Australians and even soldiers
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  Speaker 2: now by race. Here's a couple of examples just from today.
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  Speaker 8: This Remembrance Day ceremony is being held in the nation's
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  Speaker 8: capital on the traditional lands of the Nunaworld peoples. The
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  Speaker 8: Australian War Memorial acknowledges the traditional custodians of country across
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  Speaker 8: this great lands. We recognize their continue connection to land,
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  Speaker 8: sea and waters, and we pay our respects to elders
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  Speaker 8: past and present. Representing the National President of the Aboriginal
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  Speaker 8: and Torres Strait Islander Veterans and Services Association mister Garth
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  Speaker 8: O'Connell and a company is today's ditchery too, player Abel
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  Speaker 8: Seaman Karen.
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  Speaker 1: Needs Peter O'Brian.
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  Speaker 2: Can I just ask you when you were fighting for
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  Speaker 2: Australia in war, when all the strains were fighting and dying,
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  Speaker 2: were they divided by race like that? And what do
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  Speaker 2: you think of the dead now being remembered in ceremonies?
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  Speaker 1: Said? Do divide us by race?
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  Speaker 9: Henry? I was actually struck by that little clip that
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  Speaker 9: you showed where they talked about the Aboriginal torrest rad
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  Speaker 9: onloader soldiers. I noticed that there wasn't one for the
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  Speaker 9: Vietnam Veterans Association or other Afghanistan Veterans Association, So that
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  Speaker 9: seemed to be a singularly inappropriate gesture. But I had
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  Speaker 9: Aboriginal soldiers fighting under my command, and we all just
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  Speaker 9: were the same. There was no distinction. We were just
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  Speaker 9: diggers getting on with the job, and they fought and
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  Speaker 9: they died. And in all the wars and this this division,
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  Speaker 9: and in particularly if I don't you to set me off,
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  Speaker 9: but the warm the War memorial has been corrupted now
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  Speaker 9: with this Aboriginal frontier wars and so on, and that
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  Speaker 9: is an absolute scandal, and so yes it does. It
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  Speaker 9: doesn't sit very well with with servicemen in my view.
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  Speaker 2: Well, may I thank you for your service to this country.
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  Speaker 2: Peter O'Brien, thank you so much, indeed for your time.
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  Speaker 2: After the break more Net zero trouble, the biggest battery
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  Speaker 2: in the country hit with a catastrophic failure. Plus the
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  Speaker 2: RSL president warns the government our military needs more money,
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  Speaker 2: more fuel, even more ammunition if we are going to
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  Speaker 2: save ourselves. Phil Thompson, who's a Liberal, the shadow system
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  Speaker 2: Minister for Defense. He's also a former soldier who served
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  Speaker 2: in Afghanistan and was blown up there. So given this
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  Speaker 2: is Armistice Day, I think he was understandably fed up
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  Speaker 2: with other Liberals like Senator Andrew Bragg demanding the Liberals
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  Speaker 2: keep the disastrous and the zero missions target publicly threatened
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  Speaker 2: to desert their post if they didn't get their way.
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  Speaker 10: Defense taught me one thing, be a team player, and
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  Speaker 10: I don't think we've seen that of late. We've seen
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  Speaker 10: now people threatened to quit positions and throw their toys
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  Speaker 10: out of the kit. Once again the Liberal party talking
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  Speaker 10: about itself, and to know those people who want to
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  Speaker 10: threaten to quit then quit.
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  Speaker 8: You're not that important anyway.
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  Speaker 10: We need to get on with the job, which is
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  Speaker 10: creating an alternative alternative for what this government is and
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  Speaker 10: to make sure that we're putting our best policies forward.
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  Speaker 10: I don't know how long we'll be there, but I'm
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  Speaker 10: willing to set there as long as it takes to
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  Speaker 10: make sure that we can actually get on and talking
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  Speaker 10: about ourselves and start talking about the Australian people like
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  Speaker 10: we're elected to do.
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  Speaker 1: Spot On, give that man another medal.
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  Speaker 2: The Liberals are going to have a meeting about at
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  Speaker 2: zero tomorrow before they finally we must hope they settle
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  Speaker 2: their policy on Sunday. Meanwhile, there's actually yet more evidence
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  Speaker 2: that the Albanies, the Governor's own that zero plans are collapsing, which.
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  Speaker 1: Would be the real story this time.
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  Speaker 2: The world's most powerful battery storage project, the one billion
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  Speaker 2: dollar Warantar super Battery that's been built north of Sydney,
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  Speaker 2: had one of its three giant transformers crash, with the
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  Speaker 2: project's CEO telling staff the transfer had catastrophic failure and
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  Speaker 2: was beyond repair. Joining me is our Tuesday regular Metcanavan,
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  Speaker 2: the National Senator and former Resources Minister Matt. Great to
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  Speaker 2: seeing you.
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  Speaker 1: This battery was meant to be fully operational by.
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  Speaker 2: Late this year to back up unreliable wind and solar
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  Speaker 2: powers so the system doesn't crash.
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  Speaker 1: How serious is this news.
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  Speaker 11: Well, look, it's concerning, Andrew. It's not as serious as
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  Speaker 11: it might have been if we had persisted with the
• 19:29
  Speaker 11: plan to shut the Arah and Coul fired power station. Fortunately,
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  Speaker 11: its life has been extended until late next year. It's
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  Speaker 11: likely to have to be extended again given this incident.
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  Speaker 11: A day even before this, or this incident recently, I
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  Speaker 11: should say, even before this, I've been hearing that the
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  Speaker 11: operator of that POWERstation origin is ordering parts that would
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  Speaker 11: indicate that it is expecting it its life to be
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  Speaker 11: extended again. One of the issues here, though, Andrew, is
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  Speaker 11: we continually, we are constantly intervening in an ad hoc
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  Speaker 11: fashion at ten minutes to midnight before a coal fire
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  Speaker 11: POWERstation shuts to extend its life and Gaffer tape our
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  Speaker 11: energy system together. That's why the Nationals part is saying
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  Speaker 11: we should dump this ridiculous net zero plan which is
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  Speaker 11: not working, which puts us into these vulnerable situations, and
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  Speaker 11: instead run a system which allows for coal for gas
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  Speaker 11: or all types of power to come in. We currently
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  Speaker 11: only run our coal fired powerstations at about sixty five
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  Speaker 11: percent of their capacity. They were designed to run ninety percent.
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  Speaker 11: If we just up to to eighty, so not even
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  Speaker 11: to their full sort of design limit. But even if
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  Speaker 11: we went to eighty percent, that would bring the equivalent
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  Speaker 11: of three coal fired powerstations into the grid. We could
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  Speaker 11: do that effectively overnight. You don't need to have to
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  Speaker 11: build them, you have to go through approvals. Just run
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  Speaker 11: the system so our most efficient always on baseload power
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  Speaker 11: can run it. Two. That would be the quickest and
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  Speaker 11: easiest way to bring down power prices, keep our manufacturing jobs,
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  Speaker 11: and put some pride back into our nation where you
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  Speaker 11: should have cheap energy prices as a birthright of being Australian.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, one reason they're not being run at full capacities.
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  Speaker 2: They're getting swamped by the cheap but unreliable surges of
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  Speaker 2: power in the middle of the day's solar and that
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  Speaker 2: kind of thing, and then suddenly they're gone, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So that's a real problem. But back to this day
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  Speaker 2: of remembrance and of politics, the joining of the two,
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  Speaker 2: the camera of service the outgoing president of the RSL
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  Speaker 2: sent a very pointed warning to the Albanizi government that
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: we needed to urgently lift our defense spending. Get more fuel,
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  Speaker 2: get more ammunition.
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  Speaker 4: Here is our defenseman are sekeenly aware of the issues
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  Speaker 4: facing his portfolio. So the challenge before him is to
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  Speaker 4: convince his colleagues to rebalance our priorities. Otherwise, a future
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  Speaker 4: Remembrance Day ceremony, we may well regret the conflict we
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  Speaker 4: didn't deter and remember those who we demanded to protect
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  Speaker 4: us without the necessary wherewithal.
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  Speaker 1: Usually get moving.
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  Speaker 2: Often Antidote's speeches on Remembrance Day and Anzact Day. Was
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  Speaker 2: the speech that blunt inappropriate on this day? Or was
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: it very important, so important that it just had to
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: be said.
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  Speaker 11: I think it's entirely appropriate, Andrew. The best way we
• 22:18
  Speaker 11: can remember our fallen those that have made the ultimate
• 22:22
  Speaker 11: sacrifice is to do all we can to make sure
• 22:25
  Speaker 11: it doesn't happen again. We don't want to have to
• 22:28
  Speaker 11: go through that cataclysmic experience as we did well over
• 22:32
  Speaker 11: one hundred years ago now and repeat it again in
• 22:34
  Speaker 11: World War two. And the best way to do that
• 22:37
  Speaker 11: is to make sure the best way to prevent it again,
• 22:39
  Speaker 11: is to make sure we are prepared, prepared for any
• 22:42
  Speaker 11: conflict and can deter any kind of aggression in our regions.
• 22:45
  Speaker 11: So I think the intervention is timely. Everybody deep down
• 22:50
  Speaker 11: knows it. But like on many issues here, this governor's
• 22:53
  Speaker 11: kicking the can down the road hoping that a miracle
• 22:56
  Speaker 11: will come and save the day.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: Well, the miracle is more spending. How about it do that?
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: And just finally, Matt, the BBC Britain's version of our
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: ABC has had its two top executives forced to quit
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: over its left wing bias. Now President Donald Trump's threatened
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: to sue it for a billion dollars US if it
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: doesn't apologize by Friday for one of the examples of
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: its bias, doctor in a quote to make it seem
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: like it was inciting violence of the US capital. That's
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: actually forced the nervous ABC presented today to ask the
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Prime Minister for protection.
• 23:30
  Speaker 10: Ever, listen, does the ABC need some more protection from
• 23:35
  Speaker 10: Donald Trump?
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Mcaavan.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Should the ABC be nervous of being sued because after
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: its bias against Trump, it's bias against your coalition, it's
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: bias against George pell and Catholics generally is by us
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: against anyone questioning the global warming cult.
• 23:54
  Speaker 11: Look, I probably don't watch enough AABC to know for
• 23:57
  Speaker 11: sure whether they have something to be nervous about, but
• 24:01
  Speaker 11: I would suggest that they may want to review their Russia, Russia,
• 24:05
  Speaker 11: Russia documentaries on four corners. I remember watching that years ago,
• 24:08
  Speaker 11: and I don't believe they've ever apologized for that, despite
• 24:11
  Speaker 11: multiple congressional investigations finding that the Russia links, or the
• 24:16
  Speaker 11: alleged Russia links between between Trump and and Putin were
• 24:19
  Speaker 11: complete bunkom, absolute bunkum, an absolute hoax, and the I
• 24:24
  Speaker 11: believe the ABC is never never correct to the record.
• 24:28
  Speaker 11: They might want to do that sooner rather than later.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: And Matt, I've got only a minute left, but can
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I just ask you quickly about the speech that Anthony
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Albanezi gave last night on the dismissal blasting the Liberals,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: blasting Sir John k calling it illegitimate, etc.
• 24:51
  Speaker 11: Well, we've always known that the reason Anthony Albanezi says
• 24:54
  Speaker 11: he's in politics is to fight Tories, so clearly he
• 24:57
  Speaker 11: was very upset when the Tories won in his formative
• 25:01
  Speaker 11: years and kicked out a terrible government. Perhaps it would
• 25:05
  Speaker 11: be better.
• 25:05
  Speaker 10: Though.
• 25:05
  Speaker 11: If Anthony Aberneze's purpose was to lift the living standards
• 25:08
  Speaker 11: of all Austrains, he's not doing that very well. We're
• 25:11
  Speaker 11: going backwards their real wages back to twenty eleven levels.
• 25:13
  Speaker 11: How bad he focus on that instead of fighting the
• 25:17
  Speaker 11: culture wars of fifty years ago.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: And perhaps instead of erecting another statue to GoF Whitlam.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I mean that is absurd. Mecanavan, thank you so much
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: for your time. It's been a short show today because
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: coming up now will be an insight into the dismissal
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: that appalling Whitlam government. Chris Gielman's got a documentary. It's
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: called The Dismissal fifty years on. I hope you enjoy it,
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: but for me good note